Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: bliss1712 on February 20, 2010, 06:18:17 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1119294940 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1464473223&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=30496933&id=1119294940)
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It is not visible to everyone
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Sorry, how can I get it to you?
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Only people with facebook can view it and then only if you have Karen added as a friend. I'm not sure if she would approve quoting her. Maybe you can summarise what she posts?
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I'm not quoting her. One of her friends posted a picture of Mike at the O2, but there are 2 of them.....one in the curtain and one on the stage, and she is asking Karen to explain it :))
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I wish it were bigger. Any idea where it came from?
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I havent seen these two photos together. I was convinced that it was MJ at the O2, but after seeing these photos together, I am starting to have second thoughts.
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also she joined this group called "The official Indian Michael Jackson club".
take a look http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Offic ... 0437945319 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Official-Indian-Michael-Jackson-Fanclub/110437945319)
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I'm not quoting her. One of her friends posted a picture of Mike at the O2, but there are 2 of them.....one in the curtain and one on the stage, and she is asking Karen to explain it :))
Keep us posted on this :!:
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Hope this helps, i have her as a friend, lol
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1395528296 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000367376840&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=998126&id=1395528296)
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still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
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I think it's still MJ. The lighting makes the difference in the nose and lips. It's a different position all together and angle. IMO
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
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BINGO!......Will the real Michael please step out from behind the curtain. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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wOw nice picture :shock:
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I think it's still MJ. The lighting makes the difference in the nose and lips. It's a different position all together and angle. IMO
Yes I agree with you.... it´s the light...
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
Idk guys... Optical Illusion? like beLIEve? ;)
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BINGO!......Will the real Michael please step out from behind the curtain. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
bahaha :)
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I've seen those pictures before on the Seeingclues blog!
Maybe she "stole" them from his blog?
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I havent seen these two photos together. I was convinced that it was MJ at the O2, but after seeing these photos together, I am starting to have second thoughts.
Your signature is very distracting!
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It is Michael in both cases, no doubt. What do you all want to proof with this?
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it has O2 Michael on the TII special addition DVD, he's nervous going on and it shows him chatting and once he got on stage and heard the fans he's was back to his old self!! DEFINATLY MICHAEL IMO
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What has Karen said about this?
@Raven.. dont worry about whether she would approve of us quoting her or not. She is on Facebook with 5,000 friends.. its a public forum. If she doesnt want to be quoted then she shouldnt post.
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
It is not MJ... at the 02 arena. He was in impersonator, he is he one who talks for MJ..
I have read that somewhere.. The noses and lips do not match
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
It is not MJ... at the 02 arena. He was in impersonator, he is he one who talks for MJ..
I have read that somewhere.. The noses and lips do not match
Agreed. the one on stage his face looks suctioned in and the REAL MJ his face is more filled in and full
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
It is not MJ... at the 02 arena. He was in impersonator, he is he one who talks for MJ..
I have read that somewhere.. The noses and lips do not match
Agreed. the one on stage his face looks suctioned in and the REAL MJ his face is more filled in and full
EXACTLY..they are trying to fool us?? lol
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we talked about this for weeks when the site opened and i think in the end we could not agree but alot of people felt it was Michael at the 02 he was scared nervous and i dont think he wanted to be there and i read somewhere he was upset that people doubted it was him there , the fans there are sure it was Michael there
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Hope this helps, i have her as a friend, lol
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1395528296 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000367376840&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=998126&id=1395528296)
wow! I could only see her avatar-pic with Mike but joined the group This Is Not It ;) I've got no.10878 :lol:
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so who is this
[youtube:rz9tnzh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYPyxsSH0Y[/youtube:rz9tnzh5]
if you cry wolf all the time no one will believe you
is there going to be a credibility problem in the future.
i just experienced it and i didnt like it - dropped from the sky
[youtube:rz9tnzh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxPbdSTUJ8o[/youtube:rz9tnzh5]
[youtube:rz9tnzh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgdbCkqSUCc&feature=related[/youtube:rz9tnzh5]
when i saw the footage above taken 2007 i thought that the body movements made sense, that i was not uptodate with mikes appearence and mannerism, and also i saw this vid about mike strutting.
isnt he so sweet - you see him adjusting the mic, he is so at easy with himself - no different to 02
[youtube:rz9tnzh5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMC1t6wvIw[/youtube:rz9tnzh5]
so the 02 was mike to me. now you say to me that i was wrong.
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my[KING]"]still doesnt work lol thanks tho :D i wanted to see!!!
i'll post the picture then :)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2h4hmvd.jpg)
It is not MJ... at the 02 arena. He was in impersonator, he is he one who talks for MJ..
I have read that somewhere.. The noses and lips do not match
Agreed. the one on stage his face looks suctioned in and the REAL MJ his face is more filled in and full
EXACTLY..they are trying to fool us?? lol
the jaw is different.
the japan footage - reinforced 02 mike being the real deal
if 02 mike is not mike - when he is speaking directly to the public - then hey - that huge (when he used decoys for shopping etc - i had no problem)
unfortunately i have a problem here - i dont know what to think - these two pics now pose a really dilemma for me, i dont know any more.... i know you wont help me here .. oh my... dont like this feeling.....
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I saw an interview with Navi being in front of the O2, it was on the same day Michael was going to do his conference. He had the same wig on and when I heard his voice it made me wonder was it Navi at the press conference? He had the deeper voice like MJ did at the conference. I'm still not fully convinced it was indeed the real MJ that day.
About the pics I think the left one is the real MJ. His face and jaw is wider and hair on the forehead is not the same, and forehead is rounder. The other guy looks alot like him but I think his face is longer and a bit smaller. Look at the hair on his forehead.
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navi was outside as i understand he was wearing a completely different outfit, as i understood the news at the time, mike did not want to go to the 02, hours past -no show, he locked himself in his room, he eventually came out, and on the way back the news report that he had too much happy juice [ but that could be bogus].
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Navi would not wear the same clothes that would be to obvious of course.
If he choose to do the concerts so why wouldn't he wanna come out and do the press conference then??
Alot doesn't make sense :?
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so who is this
[youtube:2qjjvyes]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYPyxsSH0Y[/youtube:2qjjvyes]
if you cry wolf all the time no one will believe you
is there going to be a credibility problem in the future.
i just experienced it and i didnt like it - dropped from the sky
i just cried my heart out. damn i miss him.
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i know, whats going on.
so many inconsistencies, the family cant get their lines right, and pp posting that he is not making his public appearences - i feel so deflated -
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interesting vid off thread
[youtube:m8oz45dz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmC1mPLX74Q[/youtube:m8oz45dz]
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Hope this helps, i have her as a friend, lol
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1395528296 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000367376840&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=998126&id=1395528296)
Thanks for posting this, it works for me, I have a facebook account but not a friend of KF, I'm in UK.
So maybe it works for some people depending where they are perhaps?
Thanks for the link .... interesting. Wonder what she will say :?
;) :)
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so what about this
[youtube:qf4jmtlr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHYRPqzO9YI&feature=related[/youtube:qf4jmtlr]
i like this vid - did you hear the july voice - its mike pp, this is the real deal.
What a wobble.
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what about this - i do seem to like this person's vids
[youtube:g5zxoz0h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J2FmaloJ_U&feature=channel[/youtube:g5zxoz0h]
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[youtube:16xje2j1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FHu87asehY&feature=channel[/youtube:16xje2j1]
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I would like to say that i have been gutted by comments that o2 mike is not mike
sorry i hold to my belief
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what about this - i do seem to like this person's vids
[youtube:2y4aeukq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J2FmaloJ_U&feature=channel[/youtube:2y4aeukq]
Enjoyed the video! didn't see MJ sitting in the Helicopter though :geek:
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i cant see the difference in the following vid
[youtube:38z4cdkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZorZqtByak&feature=related[/youtube:38z4cdkw]
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i cant see the difference in the following vid
[youtube:2l2lkzil]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZorZqtByak&feature=related[/youtube:2l2lkzil]
chin cleft, cheek bones, and nose, upper lip, and teeth
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[youtube:3f7gp3hh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJVBvk4s2og&feature=related[/youtube:3f7gp3hh]
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Hope this helps, i have her as a friend, lol
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1395528296 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000367376840&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=998126&id=1395528296)
wow! I could only see her avatar-pic with Mike but joined the group This Is Not It ;) I've got no.10878 :lol:
Some of us can't see the picture...who is it?
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this evening i have felt so alone out here - i have been very upset - just shows no one really cares - when you blog.
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this evening i have felt so alone out here - i have been very upset - just shows no one really cares - when you blog.
whats up??? :cry:
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this evening i have felt so alone out here - i have been very upset - just shows no one really cares - when you blog.
i been replying to your post
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Those were images taken from my blog which I had posted back in November:
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... at-o2.html (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/11/two-michaels-at-o2.html)
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Arabian nights, is someone saying the MJ at the Army base was not the real deal? I think it was him in the flesh. You can feel him. The O2 guy I have always doubted. The picture of a very similar but obviously different MJ between those curtains, seals it for me that the one on stage was a very good look alike but up close just does not have the same presence as MJ.
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So... are we now saying that those two photos are from the same time? (the O2 and the one people are saying was him behind the curtain?) 'Cause I thought they were from separate occasions....
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last night i was struggling - i was a wee bit upset. the two pics sent me into a flap.
historically i was not sure about the 02 guy, but when i did some hoaxing, and i was not uptodate on mj - well i had my busy life
i did not know the strut, the walk, how he can engage with the audience at interview, having seen some of the above vids over my time hoaxing i have convinced myself that 02 was mike.
but the photos sent me into a flap - surely i thought to myself that i could not be wrong - what i felt was true to be wrong- that the guy having fun on the stage - was not mike - from the japan trip - and other interview appearences you could see he loves being him, he has so much fun and he loves his own music - he really does love it. he has so grown into himself. which is so wonderful.
so for me 02 is the real mike - that is fact for me, and for someone to bring to the plate these two pics sent me somewhere i felt i did not want to go. my reaction was .. i cannot explain - flight - scared ..dont know. [no offence to fellow hoaxers - everything has to be looked at]
if this was not mike at the o2, then this rocked my view, surely i thought mike would not let a standin represent him, not at a public appearence where he would have to speak and represent himself. decoys to enter/exit or shopping is fine. but a standin for a public appearence - no.
i thought that is what the two pics means, that mike would dupe us. i thought no thats not who mike is.
yes not turn up, yes get out of a contract, yes, but not present to the public a false image of yourself a double to speak for you.
considering the 02 mike as not being the real mike - posed a problem for me -
then i thought well - whats the difference between the 02 mike (if not him) and the hoax,
i became confused and i searched YT, and for every vid saying 02 mike was not mike, there were ones that said that it was him there, i have looked at them and feel in my heart that 02 mike is the real deal.
Which i draw comfort from, because i did not want to think that mike would do that. so all my postings, serve as my attempt to find peace with this
i needed someone to hold my hand yesterday night
but going back to the question i asked myself - when i was confused " why would it not be ok for mike to have a standin at the 02 and why am not flipping about the hoax" - hmmm thats a question. - think the 02 is personal - him and his fans, him and the uk, his last tour -
i cant see mike would have a standin - to me that would be dishonest in the broad common sense meaning of the word and i dont see mike that way - that goes against my image of him - i see him as the good guy
i think at the o2 its the case, that if he didnt want to do it, he wouldnt have done it and a standin would not be an option, rather than a standin being an option.
think about it to find someone who is identical to him to have identical clothes, not to act as a decoy for entry and exiting a building, but a decoy standin for mike live - no ficton.
the contract with aeg i see as a step too far - something that could not be done - an unachieveable feat - so to me understandable - though nothing i would recommend.
so sorry guys for posting so many vids, i was searching my soul and YT i wanted peace with this - because it had the potential to rock my view about mj.
i know some of you will of course feel that mj was not at the o2, i am not trying to change your views, i am merely trying to explain my postings yesterday.
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last night i was struggling - i was a wee bit upset. the two pics sent me into a flap.
historically i was not sure about the 02 guy, but when i did some hoaxing, and i was not uptodate on mj - well i had my busy life
i did not know the strut, the walk, how he can engage with the audience at interview, having seen some of the above vids over my time hoaxing i have convinced myself that 02 was mike.
but the photos sent me into a flap - surely i thought to myself that i could not be wrong - what i felt was true to be wrong- that the guy having fun on the stage - was not mike - from the japan trip - and other interview appearences you could see he loves being him, he has so much fun and he loves his own music - he really does love it. he has so grown into himself. which is so wonderful.
so for me 02 is the real mike - that is fact for me, and for someone to bring to the plate these two pics sent me somewhere i felt i did not want to go. my reaction was .. i cannot explain - flight - scared ..dont know. [no offence to fellow hoaxers - everything has to be looked at]
if this was not mike at the o2, then this rocked my view, surely i thought mike would not let a standin represent him, not at a public appearence where he would have to speak and represent himself. decoys to enter/exit or shopping is fine. but a standin for a public appearence - no.
i thought that is what the two pics means, that mike would dupe us. i thought no thats not who mike is.
yes not turn up, yes get out of a contract, yes, but not present to the public a false image of yourself a double to speak for you.
considering the 02 mike as not being the real mike - posed a problem for me -
then i thought well - whats the difference between the 02 mike (if not him) and the hoax,
i became confused and i searched YT, and for every vid saying 02 mike was not mike, there were ones that said that it was him there, i have looked at them and feel in my heart that 02 mike is the real deal.
Which i draw comfort from, because i did not want to think that mike would do that. so all my postings, serve as my attempt to find peace with this
i needed someone to hold my hand yesterday night
but going back to the question i asked myself - when i was confused " why would it not be ok for mike to have a standin at the 02 and why am not flipping about the hoax" - hmmm thats a question. - think the 02 is personal - him and his fans, him and the uk, his last tour -
i cant see mike would have a standin - to me that would be dishonest in the broad common sense meaning of the word and i dont see mike that way - that goes against my image of him - i see him as the good guy
i think at the o2 its the case, that if he didnt want to do it, he wouldnt have done it and a standin would not be an option, rather than a standin being an option.
think about it to find someone who is identical to him to have identical clothes, not to act as a decoy for entry and exiting a building, but a decoy standin for mike live - no ficton.
the contract with aeg i see as a step too far - something that could not be done - an unachieveable feat - so to me understandable - though nothing i would recommend.
so sorry guys for posting so many vids, i was searching my soul and YT i wanted peace with this - because it had the potential to rock my view about mj.
i know some of you will of course feel that mj was not at the o2, i am not trying to change your views, i am merely trying to explain my postings yesterday.
Thank you for sharing this. To me it's still 50/50 if it's the real deal or not, just because he acted "weird" but that could have been also the enthousiastic side of him, you know what I mean?.. And don't be sorry for sharing your opinion, we all have our different opinions and if yours is not like the others dont be afraid to tell, we can learn from eachtother right? we are all here to find out what really happend to michael. So if you do have a diffrent view on things don't hasitate to share, maybe you've got some good points. It's all for love right ;)
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last night i was struggling - i was a wee bit upset. the two pics sent me into a flap.
historically i was not sure about the 02 guy, but when i did some hoaxing, and i was not uptodate on mj - well i had my busy life
i did not know the strut, the walk, how he can engage with the audience at interview, having seen some of the above vids over my time hoaxing i have convinced myself that 02 was mike.
but the photos sent me into a flap - surely i thought to myself that i could not be wrong - what i felt was true to be wrong- that the guy having fun on the stage - was not mike - from the japan trip - and other interview appearences you could see he loves being him, he has so much fun and he loves his own music - he really does love it. he has so grown into himself. which is so wonderful.
so for me 02 is the real mike - that is fact for me, and for someone to bring to the plate these two pics sent me somewhere i felt i did not want to go. my reaction was .. i cannot explain - flight - scared ..dont know. [no offence to fellow hoaxers - everything has to be looked at]
if this was not mike at the o2, then this rocked my view, surely i thought mike would not let a standin represent him, not at a public appearence where he would have to speak and represent himself. decoys to enter/exit or shopping is fine. but a standin for a public appearence - no.
i thought that is what the two pics means, that mike would dupe us. i thought no thats not who mike is.
yes not turn up, yes get out of a contract, yes, but not present to the public a false image of yourself a double to speak for you.
considering the 02 mike as not being the real mike - posed a problem for me -
then i thought well - whats the difference between the 02 mike (if not him) and the hoax,
i became confused and i searched YT, and for every vid saying 02 mike was not mike, there were ones that said that it was him there, i have looked at them and feel in my heart that 02 mike is the real deal.
Which i draw comfort from, because i did not want to think that mike would do that. so all my postings, serve as my attempt to find peace with this
i needed someone to hold my hand yesterday night
but going back to the question i asked myself - when i was confused " why would it not be ok for mike to have a standin at the 02 and why am not flipping about the hoax" - hmmm thats a question. - think the 02 is personal - him and his fans, him and the uk, his last tour -
i cant see mike would have a standin - to me that would be dishonest in the broad common sense meaning of the word and i dont see mike that way - that goes against my image of him - i see him as the good guy
i think at the o2 its the case, that if he didnt want to do it, he wouldnt have done it and a standin would not be an option, rather than a standin being an option.
think about it to find someone who is identical to him to have identical clothes, not to act as a decoy for entry and exiting a building, but a decoy standin for mike live - no ficton.
the contract with aeg i see as a step too far - something that could not be done - an unachieveable feat - so to me understandable - though nothing i would recommend.
so sorry guys for posting so many vids, i was searching my soul and YT i wanted peace with this - because it had the potential to rock my view about mj.
i know some of you will of course feel that mj was not at the o2, i am not trying to change your views, i am merely trying to explain my postings yesterday.
Thank you for sharing this. To me it's still 50/50 if it's the real deal or not, just because he acted "weird" but that could have been also the enthousiastic side of him, you know what I mean?.. And don't be sorry for sharing your opinion, we all have our different opinions and if yours is not like the others dont be afraid to tell, we can learn from eachtother right? we are all here to find out what really happend to michael. So if you do have a diffrent view on things don't hasitate to share, maybe you've got some good points. It's all for love right ;)
I agree with you 50/50 and no worries @ arabian nights EVERYONE has a Opinion even MJ stated that.
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I have always been so sad when people called Michael at 02 an imposter..I have always strongly beleived it was him....How can people doubt!!! Ok that death can be a hoax,but not recognizing Michael.... :roll:
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I have always been so sad when people called Michael at 02 an imposter..I have always strongly beleived it was him....How can people doubt!!! Ok that death can be a hoax,but not recognizing Michael.... :roll:
i agree, whilst this is a hoax what went before was not
i also think that mike is made of stronger moral fibre than what is suggested
thank you for your post.
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i would like to say a sincere thank you, for you all giving me a hug, i needed it yesterday night - i was a bit low.
thank you for your kindness and understanding
i hope should anyone of you need a bit of support, that you can count on me. please feel free to pm me.
at the same time i acknowledge that pp have different views
hugs and kiss right back at you
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Hope this helps, i have her as a friend, lol
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 1395528296 (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000367376840&ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=998126&id=1395528296)
wow! I could only see her avatar-pic with Mike but joined the group This Is Not It ;) I've got no.10878 :lol:
Some of us can't see the picture...who is it?
The pic I saw there as her avatar was karen with Major-Mike from Ghost. She was kissing him on a cheek.
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I also believe it is the real MJ at the O2 and not a stand in. That was MJ for real.
By the way, Karen has left Facebook now.
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She did? Why?
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I also believe it is the real MJ at the O2 and not a stand in. That was MJ for real.
By the way, Karen has left Facebook now.
yeah I saw that too? did Mike ask her to do that? because people here are saying lot of things about her if shes in the hoax and she is doing weird on her FB :S