Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Latest News => The Child Molestation Accusations & Trial => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on February 20, 2010, 02:32:19 PM

Title: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 20, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
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We would like to start this blog by sharing our personal thoughts. At the time of the trial we both were busy with other things and therefore didn’t pay much attention to the coverage of the trial. Besides that, here in Holland it was not that much of a media circus as it was in the U.S. We knew about the accusations, the start of the trial, and we heard he was acquitted but that was about it, we never really looked further into it. Maybe because we are not fans (which some people still think is a crime while owning this website), maybe because we both never saw him as a pedophile and therefore never felt the urge to read up on it, because in our eyes justice was served.


But in this hoax everything should be investigated and stripped to the bone, so we both decided to read up on the trial and the 1993 accusations. We started with Aphrodite Jones’ “Michael Jackson Conspiracy” about the 2005 trial. This is a must-read! There is a lot of information in the book that was ignored by the mainstream media. If you want to know what happened in that courtroom, this is where you start and you will be amazed about the evilness in this world. As we already thought before, we now dare to say with absolute certainty: Michael Jackson was framed, both in 1993 and in 2003.

 
We will give you as much information about both cases in this blog as possible, but to be best informed about the 2005 trial you should really read Aphrodite’s book to get the full picture.

 
Besides facts articles and the summaries of both the 1993 accusation case and the 2005 trial, we also want to share our thoughts about why we think he was framed and by who at the end of this blog. Please note that everything besides the facts, is nothing more than our opinion, our theory. As we both never doubted his innocence, we now also wanted to KNOW, by researching both cases and see if we could link some things to support the conspiracy against him that is well known and supported by many.

 
Because there is so much information about these cases, we decided to split the blog in different parts, but that does not mean that the information that is not in this main article is less important, so we advise you to read it all if you are really interested in the absurd circumstances surrounding this that could have put Mike behind bars for decades without any proof, if it weren’t for the brilliant defense attorney Tom Mesereau that wiped his ass with the prosecution witnesses and for the 12 people of the jury that could see through the filthy lies of the accusers and exposed Tom Sneddon’s vendetta against Michael Jackson.

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Greetz,
Souza & Mo
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 20, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
It was always clear to me that Michael was innocent, and reading Jones' book just confirmed to me that he was set up.  I am still appalled that nothing seems to have happened to that family for having falsely accused him and having lied under oath.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 20, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Thank you for posting this! Blessings.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 20, 2010, 03:29:44 PM
THIS IS SO CRUEL, playing with people lives. How dare they? How can people have  no Conscience. Michael never hurt a soul. He helped people in need. If he didn't  have a good attorney he would have been in jail, I could not imagine what that poor (figure of speach) man went through. There are no words to describe it. It is infuriating. I am glad he faked his death, I hope he reads this and sees how much we love Michael Jackson...
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: airieslady on February 20, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
Thanks for this!  All I can say is Wow!  This is a very tangled web here,  so many corrupt people.  Michael, God Bless You!
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: tylerjo608 on February 20, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through.  I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael).  The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it.  These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).

Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts.  I so appreciate this website.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ni-co-le on February 20, 2010, 05:43:46 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
THIS IS SO CRUEL, playing with people lives. How dare they? How can people have  no Conscience. Michael never hurt a soul. He helped people in need. If he didn't  have a good attorney he would have been in jail, I could not imagine what that poor (figure of speach) man went through. There are no words to describe it. It is infuriating. I am glad he faked his death, I hope he reads this and sees how much we love Michael Jackson...


AMEN , AND I SURE HOPE HE READS THIS, AND MICHAEL WE WILL ALL WELCOME YOU BACK WHEN YOU ARE READY ,WE LOVE YOU MORE... :)
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 20, 2010, 06:21:48 PM
Thank you for this post! I would like to study the case further. There is so more to it. MJ was set up.  We need to bring all this to light. I just ordered A. Jones' book. So will give it a read as soon as it hits my mailbox. Can you tell me where it's possible to get the trial transcripts?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: *Mo* on February 20, 2010, 06:49:07 PM
The transcripts are on our website: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... cripts.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/court_transcripts.php)
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 20, 2010, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
The transcripts are on our website: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... cripts.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/court_transcripts.php)

Thx!
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: angel on February 20, 2010, 08:14:58 PM
Quote from: "tylerjo608"
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through.  I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael).  The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it.  These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).

Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts.  I so appreciate this website.
Thank you tylerjo608.  It is my hope and prayer that this light of truth will saturate the globe for all to see.  I also appreciate Mo and Souza, so much, for all their hard work.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: misha86 on February 20, 2010, 09:34:25 PM
I didnt follow the trial because for most of my life they made him look like a fool so i didnt care to see them say all those things PLUS I didnt want to see another black man go down like that and to be honest i wasnt sure that he was innocent being that i was blind to the fact that the media lies :? but when mike died i bought that book to get more info on the trial and a better insite to the man that mike is and it is a must read, even if you dont like mike but just want to see how the media says one thing and its really another.

like the author i thought he was probably guilty because it was the 2nd accusations and "he" paid the first boy. If you have any doubt mike is innocent please read this book!

the only day i watched of the trail was when they said he wasnt guilty
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 20, 2010, 10:29:01 PM
My gosh, you two, first thing I feel is that you put so much hard work into making such an accurate, in-depth blog! My gosh again, great job on that alone! Seeing as my wimpy fanhood hadn't yet begun in 1993 or 2005, I didn't even ever really know about any of this, until 2008 when I read up on it and was absolutely disgusted.. But I never saw all these intricate little details that just print the truth out in even bolder, clearer letter than it was already in before! Outstanding job! Only one problem: My also-wimpy computer can't seem to load the entire main "V" post!! It stops in April in the list of each trial day! How can I see the rest? I refreshed and it doesn't work...
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 20, 2010, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: "tylerjo608"
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through.  I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael).  The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it.  These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).

Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts.  I so appreciate this website.

I couldn't have said this better myself.  You'll be in my prayers. Blessings.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: shakespere25 on February 21, 2010, 11:47:03 AM
I followed the entire thing. I have always believed that the allegations were a bought and paid for witch hunt engineered to bring MJ down.

Let's face it. Abused kids often become emotionally "stuck."  The problems that are caused by this state can only be corrected when the person is able to cope.  They must be strong enough to face it all again, deal with it, put it to rest once and for all, then move on with the weight lifted.

I don't believe that MJ had enough time to get to that place. He was always working, and never dealing. We saw the manifestation of his problem, he even said so.  He said that it was his way of trying to work through it by recreating what he had lost.  His childhood.

The whole thing is a shame, and I have always been drawn to study him because my life parallels his on a much smaller scale. When the one who perpertrated the crime against you is a parent, and unable or unwilling to take responsibility for it, it becomes up to the victim to deal with it in it's entirety. Hopefully not alone, but in his case it seems that he was very alone.

One would think that the officials who are well versed in these things would have acted more responsibly.  When was the last time you saw a suspected child mollesters mattress dismantled? I think it was MJ... Does that mean that he is the last suspected dhild mollester in this country?  I don't think so!
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 21, 2010, 11:57:26 AM
After reading that book I was crushed and that is when it really hit me that they really didn't care if Michael was innocent.  They wanted him locked up, away from the world, his family, his children and all those women they felt he didn't deserve to have in his circle of friends to begin with.  They wanted to see him fall from grace.  They wanted his blood, his fame, his fortune and his dignity.  I really believe they wanted him DEAD.  Many already had him convicted and jailed and was ready to start getting shots of the inside of his cell before the trial even started.  It was a vengeful vendetta.  Hands down.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: liegi on February 21, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
Well done.  Obviously, someone or some people wanted MJ out of Neverland.  This was a white, conservative enclave.  Dick Gregory has stated (to add to what you said might be a reason--turning it into a vineyard) that it has mineral deposits.  It is very valuable property.  Probably seen as an oddity at best with its giraffes, elephants, ferris wheel and everything else.
You have made a solid case concerning the fact MJ was framed, not once, not twice.  At the end of the second trial, Tom Mesereau advised MJ to get out of town. They'll be after you again.  They eventually got OJ, didn't they?  They got Tiger Woods, didn't they?  Kobe, etc.  
Now, I think I am getting to the title of your blog--V for Vendetta, V for Vengeance.  MJ wasn't one to lick  his wounds and hide.  The guy had you know what.  Didn't he have the nerve to appear with Gavin Arvizo on Bashir's documentary? Didn't he do daring things during his performances?  So the hoax is about Vendetta, Vengeance.  And it is just unfolding.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: elenamjgirl on February 21, 2010, 07:33:35 PM
There's nothing more i can say than: THANK U!!!  ;)
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Rosemary Young on February 21, 2010, 10:23:49 PM
Thank you for sharing...Post Owner.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Infinitylady on February 22, 2010, 07:11:49 PM
Wow, much to read. I printed some of it out to take a look.  
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Emily Hutjes on February 24, 2010, 03:14:06 AM
Ahhh MO and Souza brilliant post. In the trial days I also ignored the trials after watching BBC and CNN. I did not want to smirch my gut feeling that told me : "NO". But you ladies have me right back on track now. A mighty and modern country allows such a conspiracy against one black superstar that got rebellious? Allows Sneddon his war against that superstar? Made it impossible for Mrs. A. Jones to get her book published when she found out about the conspiracy? There must be a very important WHY to this horror story! You have the hammer and I am convinced you are going to find that one big nail which will get hit on the head.

Now that you are posting all ins- and outs all details on your site for the whole world to read, I wander who, of all that were involved in this horror story, is going to react to what you so clearly enumerate. The whole world can read your blogs and that includes all that participated in the MJJ horror story. They should get a bit nervous now...

This hoax is getting more complicated than I ever imagined. There seems to be so much more dirt than meets the eye. The venom is going to be in the tail of this beast and I am convinced you are running towards that tail.
It is said:"God, whoever he may be, is with the brave of heart", so be it. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: liegi on February 24, 2010, 06:27:27 AM
Yes, Emily.  I think that Mo and Souza have really hit paydirt here.  I just had an inspiration...all the dirt is going to hit the fan during the Conrad Murray trial.  Michael is going to use the trial to expose what was done to him.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: paula-c on February 24, 2010, 02:26:43 PM
Last night I blog de Souza law and Mo, and the truth had a mixture of anger and great pain that I think what he did to Michael Jackson, was the biggest injustice that could have been done. What made him the American judicial system and these vermin who were responsible for unjustly accusing  apology no.
While the U.S. government proclaims itself the world champion of law and human rights, we see these things happen.
The state of California is one of the most crime, much is been made of police brutality against blacks and Latin people, false accusations and drug plantations. The truth I'm so sad for all this injustice is was subject to Michael, and if have did all this deception to desaperecer and never returned, how have is right. :twisted:
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: *Mo* on February 25, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
It looks like something was indeed going on at The Mirage, as we pointed out in our blog:

EXCLUSIVE: MICHAEL JACKSON PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR SPEAKS OUT

Thursday, February 25, 2010
By Steve

An ex-private investigator working in Las Vegas in the 90’s, was an insider in a plot to discredit Michael Jackson. Here he reveals exclusively to mjfiles how the conspiracy against Michael Jackson began:

“Michael Jackson was a guest of Steve Wynn, at His Mirage Casino, in Las Vegas, on several occasions. This was around the same time LaToya was on stage in Paris, with the Moulin Rouge. I was working part time for a Las Vegas private detective, and commuting to Los Angeles, to work on films.

The investigator I worked for had someone at the Mirage Casino, to call when Michael was visiting, or if he and his driver/bodyguard was going out at night. I thought at the time, that the Boss wanted to get into some paparazzi action, because it was not a case the agency was working on.

My teacher and chief investigator [at the agency], told me some of the information he was getting on Michael Jackson. At that time, he thought it was very funny. Michael would be driven around parking lots, and thru fast food places, and his guy would jump out and run into stores while Michael would stay in the car. MJ was cruising the parking lot for these reasons; celebs have a hard time just looking around, I have driven several around parking lots myself, just to get a malt and look at the lights, but MJ was being driven around the area known as the ‘Fruit Loop’, and in the parking lot of the Gypsy Bar (the oldest gay club in Las Vegas). He also was at the Glass Pool, this is an Icon of a motel, in the fashion world (lots of still shoots).

On July the 11th [1993], I got the call to come over to The Bosses house to have a drink, and that is when I was told about working a case to discredit Michael Jackson. And be around for the first calls. It was then clear to see this was in the planning stages for some time. My teacher and Chief investigator, knew I grew up in LA, and had worked all over the town, plus he wanted super good video, on this case. This was the day the office got the first calls about Michael and Jordan. June S. [Schwartz] was in a panic over what she had just seen, (that day or the day before ?)  and it is my understanding that it was part of the settlement, to never repeat it.

[That same month] My Boss said,’hey would you like to go to Beverly Hills and go to Melvin Belli’s 86th birthday party’ I said yes, very fast. Melvin Belli was the Bosses ‘Gumba’ [friend] and I knew it would be some bash. I was at Melvin’s birthday party around July the 28th in Beverly Hills, and at that party this was said by someone that was (PI) that I thought was on MJ’s side, ‘they are going to clean him’ him being MJ, and this was said with laughter.

MY boss said the case was to prove MJ was a ‘chicken hawk’, and was contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but June thought it was to prove molestation. This is a very important point. June did not have the money to pay for such a big case, let alone Melvin Belli, old or not.  Jordan was a way to get something on Michael without it being straight-out blackmail.

This is all a fact, and more than a few people in Las Vegas know about this. We never got to do the case. Evan Chandler got costody of Jordan, and took it to the police. It was my understanding, that the case was not to be about children, or go public. The ‘Devils’ are in the details of what happened…”

Source: http://www.mjfiles.com/interviews/micha ... peaks-out/ (http://www.mjfiles.com/interviews/michael-jackson-private-investigator-speaks-out/)
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: paula-c on February 25, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Why had so many people interested in doing damage to Michael?, This man mentions his "boss" is probably someone very powerful. :evil:
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 25, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
It looks like something was indeed going on at The Mirage, as we pointed out in our blog:

EXCLUSIVE: MICHAEL JACKSON PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR SPEAKS OUT

Thursday, February 25, 2010
By Steve

An ex-private investigator working in Las Vegas in the 90’s, was an insider in a plot to discredit Michael Jackson. Here he reveals exclusively to mjfiles how the conspiracy against Michael Jackson began:

“Michael Jackson was a guest of Steve Wynn, at His Mirage Casino, in Las Vegas, on several occasions. This was around the same time LaToya was on stage in Paris, with the Moulin Rouge. I was working part time for a Las Vegas private detective, and commuting to Los Angeles, to work on films.

The investigator I worked for had someone at the Mirage Casino, to call when Michael was visiting, or if he and his driver/bodyguard was going out at night. I thought at the time, that the Boss wanted to get into some paparazzi action, because it was not a case the agency was working on.

My teacher and chief investigator [at the agency], told me some of the information he was getting on Michael Jackson. At that time, he thought it was very funny. Michael would be driven around parking lots, and thru fast food places, and his guy would jump out and run into stores while Michael would stay in the car. MJ was cruising the parking lot for these reasons; celebs have a hard time just looking around, I have driven several around parking lots myself, just to get a malt and look at the lights, but MJ was being driven around the area known as the ‘Fruit Loop’, and in the parking lot of the Gypsy Bar (the oldest gay club in Las Vegas). He also was at the Glass Pool, this is an Icon of a motel, in the fashion world (lots of still shoots).

On July the 11th [1993], I got the call to come over to The Bosses house to have a drink, and that is when I was told about working a case to discredit Michael Jackson. And be around for the first calls. It was then clear to see this was in the planning stages for some time. My teacher and Chief investigator, knew I grew up in LA, and had worked all over the town, plus he wanted super good video, on this case. This was the day the office got the first calls about Michael and Jordan. June S. [Schwartz] was in a panic over what she had just seen, (that day or the day before ?)  and it is my understanding that it was part of the settlement, to never repeat it.

[That same month] My Boss said,’hey would you like to go to Beverly Hills and go to Melvin Belli’s 86th birthday party’ I said yes, very fast. Melvin Belli was the Bosses ‘Gumba’ [friend] and I knew it would be some bash. I was at Melvin’s birthday party around July the 28th in Beverly Hills, and at that party this was said by someone that was (PI) that I thought was on MJ’s side, ‘they are going to clean him’ him being MJ, and this was said with laughter.

MY boss said the case was to prove MJ was a ‘chicken hawk’, and was contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but June thought it was to prove molestation. This is a very important point. June did not have the money to pay for such a big case, let alone Melvin Belli, old or not.  Jordan was a way to get something on Michael without it being straight-out blackmail.

This is all a fact, and more than a few people in Las Vegas know about this. We never got to do the case. Evan Chandler got costody of Jordan, and took it to the police. It was my understanding, that the case was not to be about children, or go public. The ‘Devils’ are in the details of what happened…”

Source: http://www.mjfiles.com/interviews/micha ... peaks-out/ (http://www.mjfiles.com/interviews/michael-jackson-private-investigator-speaks-out/)
O_O   So this "Boss" or one of his d**khead companions could be who "triggered" MJ, right..? Wouldn't that make one of them his (God I hate typing this) "master"..?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: *Mo* on February 25, 2010, 09:12:18 PM
Well, we can't put our finger on it, but something is definitely wrong with The Mirage.  Too many weird things happened during Mike's stays there, we can't call all that just "coincidences".  We would really like to know what on earth was done to him there and by who...
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 25, 2010, 09:15:59 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Well, we can't put our finger on it, but something is definitely wrong with The Mirage.  Too many weird things happened during Mike's stays there, we can't call all that just "coincidences".  We would really like to know what on earth was done to him there and by who...
So would I.. That seems like something quite difficult to find out, though..
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: sbrowne on February 25, 2010, 10:12:16 PM
I think the people that were and are after michael have been sorrly mistaken MJ for a foul. This man is not only a busniessman but his truly blessed. He walks with God in him. So if these people think they got their vengence, I think they better look harder at their own life. I myself am not investgating any more into the hoax, because it is already been done. I think that was only the beginning of the journey. I am now trying to wake up the people who do and don't believe to take a closer look at their surroundings.
As for V for Vendetta that has already been done by the brilliant demostration of Michael's disaperence.
V for Vengence I Believe that's the next journey we are all on. To take these people down a.nd make things right again, once in for all. So really I am way beyond the hoax now, I am trying to get people moving again. Its hard but if we all work with LOVE we will accomplish and help Michael forefill his phrophcey.
That to me is very important, that's why I will not stop until, I see solutions. And I believe some part of the truth as already about this whole thing as already been there been we are not seeing it because we are so focuced on the hoax. If we look away for a while the truth is there right infront of us, it within us all
if we chose to see and believe.  Michael remminds of a BoB Marley song called Buffalo Soilder, when Michael had to fight alone. The thruth is that, he can't fight alone anymore, I believe that is part of the reason why he did what he did. The truth is that I don't think we will come back unless we come togther and fight with him. The truth is, if we love this planet, love our children, love the animals and love everthing in between, to believe in ourselves again and to believe in him I think he can accomplish everything we dream and hope for. So that Bob Marley song fits not just only him but all of us because if you look closely we all are fighting for survival. Except we have to do it together
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 26, 2010, 05:50:26 AM
I never realised what a negative impact that 2005 trial had on MJ's life before I read Aphrodite's book.
It was so sad that people still didn't believe he was innocent even after pronounced innocent by the court. It's so frustrating.
I think vendetta can be a reason for what is happening now. One of the reasons I mean, because I think there are more reasons.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: *Mo* on February 26, 2010, 06:29:12 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I never realised what a negative impact that 2005 trial had on MJ's life before I read Aphrodite's book.
It was so sad that people still didn't believe he was innocent even after pronounced innocent by the court. It's so frustrating.

It's called TRIAL BY MEDIA.

Trial by Media is a phrase popular in the late 20th century and early 21st century to describe the impact of television and newspaper coverage on a person's reputation by creating a widespread perception of guilt regardless of any verdict in a court of law.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: paula-c on February 26, 2010, 07:44:02 AM
By having the media the power to control the perception of people, they are also able to control and dominate the thinking, emotions, decisions and actions. Who is able to control the perception, it is able to control and dominate the pensameintos and behavior. The media become "judges" that something ominous to happen some fact immediately raises the verdict or sentence, which they report as "truthful information" and producing an evil that can hardly be repaired.
In my 44 years, had never known a device's media so vile, lying, and evil as the current one.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 27, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: "sbrowne"
I think the people that were and are after michael have been sorrly mistaken MJ for a foul. This man is not only a busniessman but his truly blessed. He walks with God in him. So if these people think they got their vengence, I think they better look harder at their own life. I myself am not investgating any more into the hoax, because it is already been done. I think that was only the beginning of the journey. I am now trying to wake up the people who do and don't believe to take a closer look at their surroundings.
As for V for Vendetta that has already been done by the brilliant demostration of Michael's disaperence.
V for Vengence I Believe that's the next journey we are all on. To take these people down a.nd make things right again, once in for all. So really I am way beyond the hoax now, I am trying to get people moving again. Its hard but if we all work with LOVE we will accomplish and help Michael forefill his phrophcey.
That to me is very important, that's why I will not stop until, I see solutions. And I believe some part of the truth as already about this whole thing as already been there been we are not seeing it because we are so focuced on the hoax. If we look away for a while the truth is there right infront of us, it within us all
if we chose to see and believe.  Michael remminds of a BoB Marley song called Buffalo Soilder, when Michael had to fight alone. The thruth is that, he can't fight alone anymore, I believe that is part of the reason why he did what he did. The truth is that I don't think we will come back unless we come togther and fight with him. The truth is, if we love this planet, love our children, love the animals and love everthing in between, to believe in ourselves again and to believe in him I think he can accomplish everything we dream and hope for. So that Bob Marley song fits not just only him but all of us because if you look closely we all are fighting for survival. Except we have to do it together
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I absulutely agree, and i must add that in my opinion, MJ wants us to realize: how it is possible that so few stupid persons (Illuminatti) can govern so many good people (us), MJ couldn't find the answer, why we have surrended and we serve them still knowing they are planning death (Haarp) for us by 2012, so they could live in a better world with technology and on higher level of consinsess and us-slaves (20% of present population), because 80% must die according to NWO PLAN...

that is why MJ wants us to act, to unite and to fight...as in V for Vendetta, for freedom.....and life.....it is more than a hoax...because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US....
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Emily Hutjes on February 27, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
I absulutely agree, and i must add that in my opinion, MJ wants us to realize: how it is possible that so few stupid persons (Illuminatti) can govern so many good people (us), MJ couldn't find the answer, why we have surrended and we serve them still knowing they are planning death (Haarp) for us by 2012, so they could live in a better world with technology and on higher level of consinsess and us-slaves (20% of present population), because 80% must die according to NWO PLAN...

that is why MJ wants us to act, to unite and to fight...as in V for Vendetta, for freedom.....and life.....it is more than a hoax...because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US....[/quote]

I understand what you mean, no doubt about that. But Michael did not leave a clear manual how to go about fighting off 'the bad guys'. There are people who are not all that intelligent and how will they understand this matter? There are young people busy with growing up, what do we tell them? I admire MJJ for all he is, no doubt about it, however he should have left us a book , a manual and not just clues that a simple person cannot find or understand, or people that don't really knew his work cannot understand. A true leader does not leave his flock, unless he was forced to do so and that is what I believe happened. Illuminati and cons. have no heart, no conscience. As they have hidden their souls they do not care about love and don't even recognise the word, the beauty of the emotion. Tell us: what can we do against bombs and guns with love? and that is my honest question.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: IDK3MJ on February 28, 2010, 07:28:06 AM
to: EMILY

U asked about tools to fight, of course LOVE can do everything, just use your mind and u will see,i am intersted in science of mind and i train my mind since my childhood, and i must tell u: ILLUMINATTI don't want us to discover what our minds can do (have u watched on Discovery programme the film about people seeing music's/sounds; colours? it is just an example.).Our mind has no limits......people just simply don't use brain, only a few % of our possibilities-because we are not aware of them. But during this planets positioning on 21.12.2012 there will be great change in our minds, scientists say, that there will be cosmic radiation that will start our minds/brains like u start car's engine, and u don't have to even notice that, it will happen in your hidden consincsess...we will move to another level...(listen to: TOO BAD of Michael's song he says about 4th level of realizm, there are hidden clues and in Another part of me, and many more),
But what has Love go to do with guns:
Look for 777Alaje on YOUTUBE.com, MJ WANTS US TO USE MINDS...scientists are sure that we have power to do what we want, and that u have life exactly what your thoughts are...look up in internet if u don't believe me, DAVID WILCKOCK will tell u everything about it, most of his words are MJ's sentences, so they have the same point of view. The gun is in your head!!! and willness, u just have to BELIEVE, as MJ wants us to realize that!!!Have u seen latest SONY comercial and motto? Try to find. (and listen to voice of 777Alaje and compare with Murray's voice from his speech after MJ died- that is him so Conrad did another project with MJ!!!!!). If it is hard to believe for u, if u think that is too fantastic...please try to think it could be possible, don't think it is not possible, MJ's message : BELIEVE doesn't consern his come back, but THIS SUBJECT: POWER OF YOUR MIND! BELIEVE IT!!!

So we must fight but using minds and spirits,but first of all we must STAND AS ONE AND SAY NO TO ILLUMINATTI's PLAN AND SAY NO TO OUR STUPID GOVERMENTS (by changing them or what they do in front of us nd nobody reacts !!!!, have u heard about CODEX?) even if it means phisical death because as in V for Vendetta: Idea never dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!And MJ wants us to be united, otherwise we are all dead!!!! Nowadays money is important, not spirit and your soul. Do u know that scientists think that our true life is during dreaming and sleeping? They think that when we wake up-our spirit is...... lets say: resting, and the materialistic world is just a sign, another form of energy. As BILL HICKS was saying about life: IT IS JUST A RIDE...Illuminatti know more and they don't want us to know how life looks like and why we came on this planet:watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk&feature=related).

And the youth: yes, it is a problem how to inform them,but it is his parents responsibilities to teach them and inform them, if they fail, youth can look up for their own, as i did-my parents told me nothing....so i believe they will also manage as i did.

And the guide: is The Bible, book available since ages but forgotten, MJ was reminding it all the time, but the future is written there, the guaid u wanted predicts everything, have u heard abut Bible codes-if not, they are on YOUTUBE.
And don't think that MJ left us with no instructions. WHICH CHANNEL OF INFORMATION WOULD U CHOOSE IF U HAD TO HIDE YOURSELF: TV?-no MJ hates tv, newspapers?-the same, internet?-YES, that it why this webpage exists, and the last one: CINEMAS, available for everyone all over the world, not like internet, so MJ chose cinemas as a contact channel for mass people: and the war is now in the cinamas, WAR BETWEEN THOSE WHO WANT TO INFORM PEPLE WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE ILLUMINATTI. Have u noticed how many important films have been shown lately? 2012, Alice in wonderland (magic world, i don't remember the title), V for Vendetta in 2006, Avatar, Distict 9 and many more !!!!! And the latest  The ELI's BOOK-this one is an answer for your question. Go and see. My point of view is that MJ does what he wanted: making films.....whole artistic world (singers, film directors, actor) are helping him to inform as many as it is possible through what they do: singing, programmes and films. So this is the eductation for youth available everywhere. Just go and see...it is all close to u!!!!! But do u BELIEVE that THIS IS IT? MJ SAYS: BELIEVE,THIS IS IT!!!!!THE FINAL CURTAIN CALL!!! or we will all die.

Best regards,
Yvonne
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Emily Hutjes on February 28, 2010, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: "IDK3MJ"
to: EMILY

U asked about tools to fight, of course LOVE can do everything, just use your mind and u will see,i am intersted in science of mind and i train my mind since my childhood, and i must tell u: ILLUMINATTI don't want us to discover what our minds can do (have u watched on Discovery programme the film about people seeing music's/sounds; colours? it is just an example.).Our mind has no limits......people just simply don't use brain, only a few % of our possibilities-because we are not aware of them. But during this planets positioning on 21.12.2012 there will be great change in our minds, scientists say, that there will be cosmic radiation that will start our minds/brains like u start car's engine, and u don't have to even notice that, it will happen in your hidden consincsess...we will move to another level...(listen to: TOO BAD of Michael's song he says about 4th level of realizm, there are hidden clues and in Another part of me, and many more),
But what has Love go to do with guns:
Look for 777Alaje on YOUTUBE.com, MJ WANTS US TO USE MINDS...scientists are sure that we have power to do what we want, and that u have life exactly what your thoughts are...look up in internet if u don't believe me, DAVID WILCKOCK will tell u everything about it, most of his words are MJ's sentences, so they have the same point of view. The gun is in your head!!! and willness, u just have to BELIEVE, as MJ wants us to realize that!!!Have u seen latest SONY comercial and motto? Try to find. (and listen to voice of 777Alaje and compare with Murray's voice from his speech after MJ died- that is him so Conrad did another project with MJ!!!!!). If it is hard to believe for u, if u think that is too fantastic...please try to think it could be possible, don't think it is not possible, MJ's message : BELIEVE doesn't consern his come back, but THIS SUBJECT: POWER OF YOUR MIND! BELIEVE IT!!!

So we must fight but using minds and spirits,but first of all we must STAND AS ONE AND SAY NO TO ILLUMINATTI's PLAN AND SAY NO TO OUR STUPID GOVERMENTS (by changing them or what they do in front of us nd nobody reacts !!!!, have u heard about CODEX?) even if it means phisical death because as in V for Vendetta: Idea never dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!And MJ wants us to be united, otherwise we are all dead!!!! Nowadays money is important, not spirit and your soul. Do u know that scientists think that our true life is during dreaming and sleeping? They think that when we wake up-our spirit is...... lets say: resting, and the materialistic world is just a sign, another form of energy. As BILL HICKS was saying about life: IT IS JUST A RIDE...Illuminatti know more and they don't want us to know how life looks like and why we came on this planet:watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk&feature=related).

And the youth: yes, it is a problem how to inform them,but it is his parents responsibilities to teach them and inform them, if they fail, youth can look up for their own, as i did-my parents told me nothing....so i believe they will also manage as i did.

And the guide: is The Bible, book available since ages but forgotten, MJ was reminding it all the time, but the future is written there, the guaid u wanted predicts everything, have u heard abut Bible codes-if not, they are on YOUTUBE.
And don't think that MJ left us with no instructions. WHICH CHANNEL OF INFORMATION WOULD U CHOOSE IF U HAD TO HIDE YOURSELF: TV?-no MJ hates tv, newspapers?-the same, internet?-YES, that it why this webpage exists, and the last one: CINEMAS, available for everyone all over the world, not like internet, so MJ chose cinemas as a contact channel for mass people: and the war is now in the cinamas, WAR BETWEEN THOSE WHO WANT TO INFORM PEPLE WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE ILLUMINATTI. Have u noticed how many important films have been shown lately? 2012, Alice in wonderland (magic world, i don't remember the title), V for Vendetta in 2006, Avatar, Distict 9 and many more !!!!! And the latest  The ELI's BOOK-this one is an answer for your question. Go and see. My point of view is that MJ does what he wanted: making films.....whole artistic world (singers, film directors, actor) are helping him to inform as many as it is possible through what they do: singing, programmes and films. So this is the eductation for youth available everywhere. Just go and see...it is all close to u!!!!! But do u BELIEVE that THIS IS IT? MJ SAYS: BELIEVE,THIS IS IT!!!!!THE FINAL CURTAIN CALL!!! or we will all die.

Best regards,
Yvonne

Dearest Ivonne, Thank you ever so much for taking the time to write this answer to me. To me your answer is a valuable present and I understand your message. XX Emily.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: paula-c on February 28, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
The date entered in the calendar - the Solstice of winter in the year 2012 - not mark the end of the world. Many external people writing on the Mayan calendar sensacionalizan this date, but they don't know. Those who know are indigenous elders who are responsible for keeping the tradition.
"Humanity will continue,"but in a different way."" Material structures change. "This will have the opportunity to be more human." :geek:
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 01, 2010, 04:37:11 AM
Speaking about vendetta, I'm guilty of seeing the movie so late... but I finaly saw the movie.
The image of the red curtain behind Mr. V broadcasting his message to the London people shocked me.
What do you all think, is there a connection between the movie V for Vendetta and what's happening since June 25th?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Hoaxornot on March 01, 2010, 08:54:34 AM
hmmm i do not know about this investigator
Michael being driven around the Gypsy bar's parking lot?
I know the Gypsy bar ... there is no parking lot... it is very small
People just go park somewhere else and walk
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Infinitylady on March 01, 2010, 06:41:18 PM
Emily Hutjes:
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the guaid u wanted predicts everything, have u heard abut Bible codes-if not, they are on YOUTUBE.

The bible codes are very interesting.  They have been researched for some time. TBN had a documentary on this and there were alot of astounding info on this!
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Infinitylady on March 01, 2010, 06:47:44 PM
Quote
voiceforthesilent » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:47 am

tylerjo608 wrote:
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through. I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael). The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it. These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).
Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts. I so appreciate this website.

I couldn't have said this better myself. You'll be in my prayers. Blessings.

Tyler, I agree. Really the only thing left is anything but prayer and for God to expose all of this! Prayer is really all we got left because this can go on and on and we will walking around a mountain and still get nowhere. I am with you on this one. :)
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Emily Hutjes on March 02, 2010, 03:00:42 AM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Quote
voiceforthesilent » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:47 am

tylerjo608 wrote:
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through. I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael). The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it. These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).
Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts. I so appreciate this website.

I couldn't have said this better myself. You'll be in my prayers. Blessings.

Tyler, I agree. Really the only thing left is anything but prayer and for God to expose all of this! Prayer is really all we got left because this can go on and on and we will walking around a mountain and still get nowhere. I am with you on this one. :)

To Tylerjo and all you of well meaning:: Inside a human being is love, compassion, understanding, the ability to create, the will to share and so much more. It is a bright light that wishes to shine. Hence: I'm with you and we'll go for it! Emily.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Infinitylady on March 02, 2010, 11:39:30 AM
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Emily Hutjes » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:00 am

Infinitylady wrote:
voiceforthesilent » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:47 am

tylerjo608 wrote:
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through. I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael). The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it. These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).
Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts. I so appreciate this website.

I couldn't have said this better myself. You'll be in my prayers. Blessings.

Tyler, I agree. Really the only thing left is anything but prayer and for God to expose all of this! Prayer is really all we got left because this can go on and on and we will walking around a mountain and still get nowhere. I am with you on this one.  

To Tylerjo and all you of well meaning:: Inside a human being is love, compassion, understanding, the ability to create, the will to share and so much more. It is a bright light that wishes to shine. Hence: I'm with you and we'll go for it! Emily.

:D, a thumbs up and a hug!!
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: sweet1 on March 02, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Quote
voiceforthesilent » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:47 am

tylerjo608 wrote:
Thank you for putting in the time and effort to show those who maybe didn't know much of the sordid details of what Michael has had to go through. I had to stop half way through reading your blog because I once again was overcome with emotion (I've read Aphrodite's book, as well as Redemption, and The Michael Jackson Trials by Linton Guest, and knew long ago that there was a conspiracy against Michael). The amount of disgust and sadness that I feel is so overwhelming I cannot even begin to describe it. These facts again being brought up only serves to make me more determined to speak out for justice for Michael and to show people what the TRUTH is and who Michael Jackson really is.

For those of you who believe in prayer, get on you knees and ask for the mountains to be moved so that we can see the light, (the obstacles holding back the truth), and for any opportunity to plant the seed of truth. (I need prayer warriors to help bring back a class I was scheduled to teach on mj, but has been temporarily postponed).
Michael needs us to know the truth and to share that with the world, so thank you Mo and Souza, for bringing light to the facts. I so appreciate this website.

I couldn't have said this better myself. You'll be in my prayers. Blessings.

Tyler, I agree. Really the only thing left is anything but prayer and for God to expose all of this! Prayer is really all we got left because this can go on and on and we will walking around a mountain and still get nowhere. I am with you on this one. :)


We will not be like the children of Israel that spent 40 yrs on an 11 day journey. The prayers of the righteous availeth much. I am a prayer warrior and I will send prayers up that the truth be revealed to the world about those in high places spewing wickness against the the upright in heart. Keep the Faith! :D
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 03, 2010, 05:52:00 AM
Very interesting posts here.
Speaking about V for Vendetta, I keep remember a sentence there:

"Yes I created a lie, but because you believed it you found something true about yourself"

In my opinion MJ's "death" awoke a lot of people, made them search, some of them for justice, some of them for the truth, some of them for hidden meanings...anyway, his "death" shook the world.

We don't know for sure if he is alive or not,but I know for sure I am "traped" in his story for exactly 8 months and 6 days now. And if my guess is true, it's going to be one full year  :)

During this time I went through all sort of emotions, met a lot of interesting people and learned a lot about myself and about the world.

If it's all an illusion, it still worths the trouble of living it.

Love you Michael :D
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: tabloidburn on March 08, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Speaking about vendetta, I'm guilty of seeing the movie so late... but I finaly saw the movie.
The image of the red curtain behind Mr. V broadcasting his message to the London people shocked me.
What do you all think, is there a connection between the movie V for Vendetta and what's happening since June 25th?

there are a lot of references in what mj did to 'v for vendetta', the color scheme, mask wearing, some dance routines form a 'v' (like in 'you rock my world' - all in black and red, too!), last but not least, he owned such a mask himself, prince was wearing it at some point when they were still always masked to go out.
it's originally a comic-book (artful comic, more for grown-ups) and they made a movie out of it, so the story has been around before the movie. and michael is a great fan of both comics and film.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: liegi on March 08, 2010, 03:38:08 PM
It will be interesting to compare it to the graphic novel that will be coming out by Michael Jackson (Fated).
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GINAFELICIA on March 10, 2010, 06:23:13 AM
Thank you for the explanations. I saw a video showing the similarities with V for Vendetta.

Do you think Michael chose London only to match with the movie?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 14, 2010, 03:14:19 PM
I'am the investigator from this post on MJfiles....Go to Google map, Las Vegas and put in Gypsy Night Club, now zoom-in with the satellite....Yes that is a big parking lot....and well hidden...I know, I have watched this lot on a surveillance case, and it is a hot meeting spot.....So why now?...I just retired.....and yes, I have proof!.....but I want to know, why are so many MJ fans "homophobic"?....I love the "WIZ", and it don't make any difference to me, that this talented man was gay.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: "brian PI"
I'am the investigator from this post on MJfiles....Go to Google map, Las Vegas and put in Gypsy Night Club, now zoom-in with the satellite....Yes that is a big parking lot....and well hidden...I know, I have watched this lot on a surveillance case, and it is a hot meeting spot.....So why now?...I just retired.....and yes, I have proof!.....but I want to know, why are so many MJ fans "homophobic"?....I love the "WIZ", and it don't make any difference to me, that this talented man was gay.


You are the private investigator you mean?

I couldn't care less if he were gay, I am Dutch and my own brother has a great boyfriend, that should say it all. But that doesn't mean I think Mike is gay, for multiple reasons.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: paula-c on March 14, 2010, 07:31:25 PM
Very well Zousa, the above mentioned good,. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 14, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
good to hear some sense....I think Americans are still struggling with homophobia......if you wish to see Michael Jackson as non-gay, for somr reason, I say good for you....now we can talk....The investigation agency I worked for, had "tailed" Mr. Jackson, My Boss found it very funny that Mr. Jackson would not get out of the car, when His driver / bodyguard, would drive Mr. Jackson around the Las Vegas "fruit Loop"....I know...this is hard for MJ fans, but why?..this man had a right to His life......I think MJ would still be alive today, if the public had been more kind....oh by the way,,I'am not an english teacher or a writer...but I'am giving you a chance to grow-up, and I want nothing..[I might feel a little guilty] look when this comes out, and it will...you will be ahead of the news.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 15, 2010, 12:54:31 AM
Please clarify. I may have misunderstood your statement.

Are you telling us that MJ rode in the car through the gay section of Las Vegas for the  purpose of finding gay men?   You did say that your agency followed MJ and his driver, right?

Quote from: "brian PI"
good to hear some sense....I think Americans are still struggling with homophobia......if you wish to see Michael Jackson as non-gay, for somr reason, I say good for you....now we can talk....The investigation agency I worked for, had "tailed" Mr. Jackson, My Boss found it very funny that Mr. Jackson would not get out of the car, when His driver / bodyguard, would drive Mr. Jackson around the Las Vegas "fruit Loop"....I know...this is hard for MJ fans, but why?..this man had a right to His life......I think MJ would still be alive today, if the public had been more kind....oh by the way,,I'am not an english teacher or a writer...but I'am giving you a chance to grow-up, and I want nothing..[I might feel a little guilty] look when this comes out, and it will...you will be ahead of the news.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 03:02:15 AM
No I'am not just telling you that Michael was driven around the gay section of Las Vegas, He was driven around the gay section of Las Vegas, fact!.....so now, here is were you must attack me for giving information from my work place?...Is this what you are going to do?....because if it is the same old, homophobic / attack the messenger thing....You can just say, ya' thats what I'am going to do.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 03:07:47 AM
Quote from: "brian PI"
good to hear some sense....I think Americans are still struggling with homophobia......if you wish to see Michael Jackson as non-gay, for somr reason, I say good for you....now we can talk....The investigation agency I worked for, had "tailed" Mr. Jackson, My Boss found it very funny that Mr. Jackson would not get out of the car, when His driver / bodyguard, would drive Mr. Jackson around the Las Vegas "fruit Loop"....I know...this is hard for MJ fans, but why?..this man had a right to His life......I think MJ would still be alive today, if the public had been more kind....oh by the way,,I'am not an english teacher or a writer...but I'am giving you a chance to grow-up, and I want nothing..[I might feel a little guilty] look when this comes out, and it will...you will be ahead of the news.

We are already 8,5 months ahead of the news Brian ;)

Again, I wouldn't care if he was, but I really don't think he is gay. Of course that is only from what I have seen in his public appearances, but I can assure you I have a huge gay-detector and he doesn't have that vibe at all, not even when he is wearing lashes 2 times as long as mine.

Besides that, I think certain people wanted to make the public believe he was gay, to discredit him. Something I as a Dutchie don't understand, but in the States it is still an issue if you are gay.

So let's assume you followed that car, how do you know it was him in that car? That is my question to you. If it was your boss's goal to discredit Mike, who says he wouldn't make you think it was him? And wasn't that car blinded? If he didn't come out, how do you know he was even in there?

If there is something I learned these past months, is that nothing is what it seems when it comes to Michael Jackson.

Just let me tell you that whatever you might have seen, it could have been a big illusion, in whatever way.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 15, 2010, 03:33:59 AM
There was no attack toward you within the question. Remember how I started the post with asking for clarification since I may have misunderstood. You brought up a new and,  as you can imagine,  hot topic. If someone  suggests that they know something firsthand or through reliable sources then they will be questioned to determine their credibilty. That's not attacking, That is good investigative work on the part of the person asking the questions. As a P.I. , you should fully understand that method.

Now... back to the original question. Are you telling us that MJ was driven around the gay section of Las Vegas for the purpose of looking for gay men? I ask because I  can go to gay bars or gay night clubs to hang out with gay friends but I am not gay. Just because someone is seen in a gay area doesn't automatically mean that they are either. If you have insider knowledge, my question was simply asked  to get clarification and a  better understanding of  what you were communicating within your post. Nothing more than that.  

I am American however I am not homophobic. I could actually care less who's loving who.

Quote from: "brian PI"
No I'am not just telling you that Michael was driven around the gay section of Las Vegas, He was driven around the gay section of Las Vegas, fact!.....so now, here is were you must attack me for giving information from my work place?...Is this what you are going to do?....because if it is the same old, homophobic / attack the messenger thing....You can just say, ya' thats what I'am going to do.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 03:46:42 AM
The owner of the agency had someone in the hotel section of the Mirage Casino, that would call whenever Mr. Jackson would leave the hotel at night, this type of thing is a standard operation. [no big deal] The agency would often have a person waiting near a known exit, just sitting in their car. [we used radios, not cell phones] I put in many hours doing just that, when I was an apprentice. [but not in 1993, I had moved beyond this work]....this will come out, a Jackson family representative has replied, in an email sent to me, that they know  most of this already.....The only reason it is not, "out yet", is because it says too much about Michael Jackson being gay, but His gay life style [or bi?] will be part of the murder investigation being carried out by the family.....Don't believe me?...OK, just wait and see.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 03:52:50 AM
Sorry for being "gun shy", I have been attacked so many times, just for telling the truth...It even made my Mom made when I told Her, back in 1993. [she liked MJ]...nice forum.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: *Mo* on March 15, 2010, 03:54:16 AM
We know that doubles were used over a number of years.  How can you be sure it was Michael Jackson being driven around the gay section of Las Vegas, and not one of his doubles..?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 03:56:03 AM
Quote from: "brian PI"
The owner of the agency had someone in the hotel section of the Mirage Casino, that would call whenever Mr. Jackson would leave the hotel at night, this type of thing is a standard operation. [no big deal] The agency would often have a person waiting near a known exit, just sitting in their car. [we used radios, not cell phones] I put in many hours doing just that, when I was an apprentice. [but not in 1993, I had moved beyond this work]....this will come out, a Jackson family representative has replied, in an email sent to me, that they know  most of this already.....The only reason it is not, "out yet", is because it says too much about Michael Jackson being gay, but His gay life style [or bi?] will be part of the murder investigation being carried out by the family.....Don't believe me?...OK, just wait and see.

I am not saying I don't believe you, I am saying that nothing is as it seems. I still didn't see an answer as to how you know for sure it was him.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 04:00:31 AM
Yes that is possible....He would use the VIP elavator...but it still is possible...but why would He do that?....but I see your point.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Grace on March 15, 2010, 04:04:08 AM
May I ask what car was used to drive the person around?
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 15, 2010, 04:04:27 AM
Thanks for your reply and the clarification. Whether I believe or not is really unimportant.

BTW- I don't  go around attacking people when having a conversation with them. We can agree, disagree or agree-to-disagree and then move on.  I'm way too laid back to get that riled up over things.  :lol:

Quote from: "brian PI"
The owner of the agency had someone in the hotel section of the Mirage Casino, that would call whenever Mr. Jackson would leave the hotel at night, this type of thing is a standard operation. [no big deal] The agency would often have a person waiting near a known exit, just sitting in their car. [we used radios, not cell phones] I put in many hours doing just that, when I was an apprentice. [but not in 1993, I had moved beyond this work]....this will come out, a Jackson family representative has replied, in an email sent to me, that they know  most of this already.....The only reason it is not, "out yet", is because it says too much about Michael Jackson being gay, but His gay life style [or bi?] will be part of the murder investigation being carried out by the family.....Don't believe me?...OK, just wait and see.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 04:05:57 AM
Quote from: "brian PI"
Yes that is possible....He would use the VIP elavator...but it still is possible...but why would He do that?....but I see your point.

Maybe HE didn't do it, but those who planned the original plan sent out someone else to fool you. You get us? It is impossible to know for a fact what happened, simply because we can't even say for sure it was him.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: Grace on March 15, 2010, 04:07:06 AM
brian PI, yes, relax, this is the hour of the European majority on the forum :D  and we have seen VERY much already - thick skinned and hard-headed. We've come a long way. But we are nice folks  :D (usually) LOL
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 04:13:17 AM
I just thought about that....Michael was stying in the "Bungalows"  on most {but not all] of His Mirage visits....so He would have left by the rear or side exits?.....My old Boss did not go into the details of this, so I'am not sure......In 1993 I worked most of the time in the film industry. google IMDB, and then search my name, ****, for some of my work history....MJfiles has a story about this, and it is on several other sites.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 04:29:15 AM
Sorry I didn't know that names were not to be used on this forum....I use my real name most of the time..... like all people in film production, I can't hide that easy.....I did see the English Michael Jackson Nevi, I think that is the name, and he said he was a decoy for Mr. Jackson, many times....This must be part of this sites topics.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 04:38:01 AM
Quote from: "brian PI"
Sorry I didn't know that names were not to be used on this forum....I use my real name most of the time..... like all people in film production, I can't hide that easy.....I did see the English Michael Jackson Nevi, I think that is the name, and he said he was a decoy for Mr. Jackson, many times....This must be part of this sites topics.

No, we're not talking about impersonators, but real doubles. Navi is not similar enough by far to fool people.
Title: Re: New Blog: V for Vendetta – V for Vengeance
Post by: brian PI on March 15, 2010, 05:20:46 AM
I just read the inquiry...Details?....about the statements made by my old Boss, this would tell the most.....The Boss thought the whole thing was very funny, but he was not anti-gay. He liked the places that Mj would go to, like the "Glass Pool" a fashion Icon from the 60tys, and drive thru's. plus places to just sit and look at the lights.....this sort of thing is not unusual for Celebs visitng Las Vegas, but the main reason Michael was at the Mirage Casino in 1992 , was to work with Sigfried and Roy......The big thing about what happened, [my boss, having MJ tailed] was the fact the the Boss was very close friends with one of the music Execs. that wanted control of the ATV Beatles catalog [but I'am not  doing names, not my problem, and I don't want it to be]...I thought the family would like some more information, and they might, I have had some inquiries.....If Mr. Jackson was using decoys for His Las Vegas trips, it would make more sense to use them so He could go to Las Vegas, without being hounded....I hope this helps in Your efforts.
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