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Hoax Investigation => This Is It => After June 25, 2009 => This is It ~ DVD & Blu Ray => Topic started by: Stef4ni4L on February 17, 2010, 06:55:58 AM

Title: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Stef4ni4L on February 17, 2010, 06:55:58 AM
HELLO, I need photos of Michael with his pants in orange in "this is it" ... ... HELP ME please. THANKS  ;)
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: mformichael on February 17, 2010, 07:39:03 AM
[attachment=0:c727z37p]MJhistory_TII.jpg[/attachment:c727z37p]
ok?
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on February 17, 2010, 09:23:25 AM
Wow...his legs look really small in the orange pants.. :P
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: ejay on February 17, 2010, 09:43:49 AM
OH yum! I could just eat 'em right up in the SC pic on the right! Sorry back to hoaxing :lol:
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: mformichael on February 17, 2010, 12:16:04 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on February 17, 2010, 12:33:34 PM
Oh my!
He looks almost anorexic in the orange trousers. :shock:
In the other picture he looks much more healthier
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: YoungNewMJFan on February 17, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Yeah, doesn't look healthy..like i said in the other post when comparing his legs look EXTREMELY small in the orange pants picture compared to gold pants...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Stef4ni4L on February 18, 2010, 05:44:27 AM
Quote from: "mformichael"
[attachment=0:181p6sol]MJhistory_TII.jpg[/attachment:181p6sol]
ok?
Thank you very much
 :mrgreen:
Have you (all) other photos with orange paints? PLEASE...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: mformichael on February 18, 2010, 07:04:40 AM
Welcome !But...sorry ..i have only this.If i will find i will send to you ! :D
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Lonelynation on February 18, 2010, 05:47:32 PM
Now I know there was a whole bunch of things written about whether or not it is actually MJ throughout the entire movie and I thought it was kind of silly to think that way, but when I re-watched the dvd, I sort of questioned it. It seems like him through everything except when he's in the orange pants. You notice a significant difference when he's wearing the black soldier-like jacket, than when he's wearing the orange pants. Maybe he just wasn't having a great day? I don't know. There's just a night and day difference dance-wise.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Stef4ni4L on February 19, 2010, 06:39:01 AM
I need these because I want to prove just that, I need a particular!
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 19, 2010, 06:48:50 AM
Quote from: "Lonelynation"
Now I know there was a whole bunch of things written about whether or not it is actually MJ throughout the entire movie and I thought it was kind of silly to think that way, but when I re-watched the dvd, I sort of questioned it. It seems like him through everything except when he's in the orange pants. You notice a significant difference when he's wearing the black soldier-like jacket, than when he's wearing the orange pants. Maybe he just wasn't having a great day? I don't know. There's just a night and day difference dance-wise.

I agree and if you look at the picture above with him in the orange pants, it just doesn't really look like him, especially around the mouth. Maybe the weight loss, IDK.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: steffmaster1 on February 19, 2010, 08:34:31 AM
orange pants aint him its so obvious
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: techdiva on February 23, 2010, 09:15:19 PM
I found photos of the orange pants guy
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/025.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/038.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/045.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/177.jpg
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/106.jpg
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 23, 2010, 09:39:06 PM
orange pants guy is his sick twin that had to keep going to kleins repeatedly before june 25th. and hence why he is so skinny. mj is a tiny more meatier. in another post there was two pics of him in smooth criminal and the one that was considered to be "the double" was much skinnier in that outfit in my eyes. shirt baggy on him.  jmo  :D  :D
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: teerockjelli on February 24, 2010, 12:47:34 AM
LOL!!  :lol:

glad to see a still of this person
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: AgentBJ on February 24, 2010, 04:00:05 AM
Quote from: "i[MISS
my[KING]"]orange pants guy is his sick twin that had to keep going to kleins repeatedly before june 25th. and hence why he is so skinny. mj is a tiny more meatier. in another post there was two pics of him in smooth criminal and the one that was considered to be "the double" was much skinnier in that outfit in my eyes. shirt baggy on him.  jmo  :D  :D

He has not the same left ear as that guy.  :D
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: frogh777 on February 24, 2010, 04:02:46 AM
Quote from: "AgentBJ"
Quote from: "i[MISS
my[KING]"]orange pants guy is his sick twin that had to keep going to kleins repeatedly before june 25th. and hence why he is so skinny. mj is a tiny more meatier. in another post there was two pics of him in smooth criminal and the one that was considered to be "the double" was much skinnier in that outfit in my eyes. shirt baggy on him.  jmo  :D  :D

He has not the same left ear as that guy.  :D
We react like its normal we see 10 MJs. But dont u think that Mj F*cked with us, showing his last ''footage'' too his fans, And it isnt even him, IT is a double. If hes coming back, for me no problemo, but if hes not coming back, and this was really one of his last footage, then its really strange!
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: gstatpro on March 05, 2010, 09:59:36 PM
Its really weird that people question michael in this attire and even pointy shoulder attire aka "penguin man" because when he sang that intro to speechless I was blown away. Even when he performed "wanna be startin somethin" and "jam". As for "penguin man" "human nature" or "I just can't stop loving you"? Oh I feel offended that it the feeling of those you couldn't tell it was michael. I want clues too but the last thing I wanna do is believe that there was doubles. I believe michael looks different in a lot of shots due to make up or not shaving or even the weight loss that was spoken of by him and his crew due to his creative mind not lettin him sleep or eat. I hear too much about there was no anti gravity lean or moon walks? Well look closer he does moonwalk and although there is no lean he replaced it with some more pretty sweet dance moves for the rehearsals atleast. Everybody expects so much from him and yet I waited and waited for his return to the stage after so long I believe it was the 30th anniversary show and I bought my this is it movie tickets when they went on sale and watched it twice in the theatre. So understand when I watch this is it I don't expect him to break his body during rehearsals if you think otherwise check youtube of his tour rehearsals he doesn't do as much as he did in this is it. Ok I'm rambling now. Sorry.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 05, 2010, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: "YoungNewMJFan"
Yeah, doesn't look healthy..like i said in the other post when comparing his legs look EXTREMELY small in the orange pants picture compared to gold pants...

You know Michael in Gold Pants in the HIStory concerts was VERY hefty, dont you?   He was the heaviest he has ever been in that era...  have you watched the concerts?

Ive got all the concerts on DVD...  from Jacksons, to Bad, to Dangerous..  Michael is slim and agile in those concerts...  jump to HIStory and its almost like watching another person.  All of a sudden he is much bigger with wide legs, meaty,  very sexual and confident......

I dont think it is useful to compare Michael in HIStory to Michael in TII as the two are so far apart...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 05, 2010, 10:27:14 PM
i got loads of photos...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 05, 2010, 10:28:13 PM
more...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 05, 2010, 10:28:57 PM
more..
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: AgentBJ on March 06, 2010, 06:52:45 AM
Aw, he is so sweet! I could kiss him!
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 06, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
Anyone got anymore?

A visual comparison of MJ in orange pants compared to, say..  Bad concert or Dangerous concerts would be useful instead of HIStory.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: mumof3 on March 06, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
I still think it is Michaeal in the red pants he does look to slim to me but muscular
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 06, 2010, 02:43:56 PM
To me, they look the same size as his Thriller trousers...
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: simalves on March 08, 2010, 01:49:08 AM
I always think Orange pants is still Michael. I like that pic of him running. Only Michael sort of jumps up when he runs so he has these huge strides. Also orange pants starts the show on the DVD - they would never let a double do that. And SPEECHLESS just left me that.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 08, 2010, 02:43:29 AM
but michael said he wanted to direct remember this is a film thats why a double was used sometimes also he switched it so yes its a double but speechless part for example may well have been michael telling the fans i love you :)
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Hopeless on March 08, 2010, 03:36:19 AM
For me it was only Michael when he don't have sunglasses on....watch the other treat where the dancers said they have only 2 days rehersals with Michael.
Michael dosn't wear sunglasses at the rehersals...look how he puts his hand over the microphone, his drive of his hips...not so extrem like the gay who wears the sunglasses...he is a joker, more hyperactive, dances more like Michael does, gives directions, but the real Michael was very more friendly, calm, he say's god bless you, he has his typical laugh when the reherse on the lifting platform by the " Earth Song ".

Don't you noticed that there where two different persons ?
Why does Sony only use the photos without sunglasses on the cover and the booklet ? Because this shoes Michael....they can't put the wrong person on the cover !

Two different stages ! Two different performancees for the same song ! Michael never made different perfomances. He was a perfektionist, every step the same ! But here not only other clothes...all is different, the dancers, the performance....two difficult shows.

The sunglass men was thinner then Michael, but very activ...maybe younger....Michael dosn't dance so much , but almost absolutly Michael....please watch again and look.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 08, 2010, 05:09:36 PM
after billie jean after kenny says church of rock and roll watch kenny order double next thing double turns and sings wot hes told too mum noticed!! :lol:  michael is in the part where they talk bout mj air before man in mirror look at nose then very end sign language i will show myself to you all had to be the double or it wouldnt make sense cos michael is hidden he will show himself just not yet ;)
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: RK on March 08, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
I watched some videos from whitesocks last night and she put a lot of the inconsistencies in this whole hoax in an understandable way. She brought out the fact that most of us think about Michael's message being the environment and saving the planet. Then she suggested "green man" at WATW along with other stuff and then brought up Mr orange pants. She then connected Orange pants to the cebu prison dancers who were also dressed in orange and suggested that MJ's message is  also "They don't really care about us.  So we can argue over if it is or isn't MJ but maybe we need to look at  why Orange pants was there.   This simple connection by colours had totally bypassed my brain. Whitesocks goes into a lot of detail and it makes a great deal of sense. Her whole series is called "connecting the dots" . Interestingly enough, TMZ also seem to be watching her work and borrowing from it .
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: loveratheart4mj on March 08, 2010, 09:02:38 PM
Guys MJ was thin. Those Gold pant days he was somewhat heavier...i mean your lookin at 13 yrs ago. Hes older. BUT older doesnt mean nothin either  :)  MJ still has it! He has the moves in TII. I loved it. I would take him for a romp or two  8-)  oh yeah  :D  Mj your still HOT. Believe me....definitely still HOT  ;)
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 13, 2010, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
Guys MJ was thin. Those Gold pant days he was somewhat heavier...i mean your lookin at 13 yrs ago. Hes older. BUT older doesnt mean nothin either  :)  MJ still has it! He has the moves in TII. I loved it. I would take him for a romp or two  8-)  oh yeah  :D  Mj your still HOT. Believe me....definitely still HOT  ;)


MJ was thin..  then during HIStory he really beefed up..  i mean if you watch the concerts, the man is big!

The in TII he very slim again.

But if you look at the Thriller trousers they look the same size to me.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: word on March 14, 2010, 12:04:46 PM
Forget the orange pants,can someone please posts some more gold pants pics?Goooood Laaaaaawd,lol.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: techdiva on March 14, 2010, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
Guys MJ was thin. Those Gold pant days he was somewhat heavier...i mean your lookin at 13 yrs ago. Hes older. BUT older doesnt mean nothin either  :)  MJ still has it! He has the moves in TII. I loved it. I would take him for a romp or two  8-)  oh yeah  :D  Mj your still HOT. Believe me....definitely still HOT  ;)


MJ was thin..  then during HIStory he really beefed up..  i mean if you watch the concerts, the man is big!

The in TII he very slim again.

But if you look at the Thriller trousers they look the same size to me.
Here's a photo of him in Copenhagen on his bday during the HIStory tour. His clothes look big on him.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/history/tour/yana/029.jpg
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 14, 2010, 03:42:23 PM
I think near the end of History tour he had lost weight.. at the beginning he was really beefy.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 17, 2010, 04:18:43 PM
Gosh he looks so HOT in that 2nd pic posted

The last 2 photos you can see that IS Michael
He wore this when he did the brief accapela of "Speechless" on TII
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: somekindofsign on March 17, 2010, 04:31:51 PM
As I´ve said before, what I don´t understand is the speechless fragment that doesn´t match the intro nor the begining of the original song.
Other thing I could stress is that there is no orange pants in the TII poster.

But I don´t know what to think about the doubles. The examples I have examined deeply are all him.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: whatyourheartsays on March 17, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
You're comparing 2 ages...During Bad Michael was 30...full healthy man, muscles, meat at the right places  :D
Please do not forget what Michael went through...medics addiction, molestation trial, divorce, tabloids, business issues with Sony. All this is an huge STRESS, and stress can KILL. Stress is not only about your mind, it can destroy your body, make you loose weight at critical point.  We all know Michael felt better this last years, but he was surely nothing to compare with the body he had 15 years ago  :roll:
He was still beautiful and attractive, but you cannot speak about "double" just because he doesn't look like the man he was when he was 30. I guess millions of 50 years old men would love to have the same body they had at 30...but they don't !
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: city.gal1 on March 17, 2010, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: "RK"
I watched some videos from whitesocks last night and she put a lot of the inconsistencies in this whole hoax in an understandable way. She brought out the fact that most of us think about Michael's message being the environment and saving the planet. Then she suggested "green man" at WATW along with other stuff and then brought up Mr orange pants. She then connected Orange pants to the cebu prison dancers who were also dressed in orange and suggested that MJ's message is  also "They don't really care about us.  So we can argue over if it is or isn't MJ but maybe we need to look at  why Orange pants was there.   This simple connection by colours had totally bypassed my brain. Whitesocks goes into a lot of detail and it makes a great deal of sense. Her whole series is called "connecting the dots" . Interestingly enough, TMZ also seem to be watching her work and borrowing from it .

Never heard of the whitesocks videos -- can you provide a link, sounds interesting.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 17, 2010, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
You're comparing 2 ages...During Bad Michael was 30...full healthy man, muscles, meat at the right places  :D
Please do not forget what Michael went through...medics addiction, molestation trial, divorce, tabloids, business issues with Sony. All this is an huge STRESS, and stress can KILL. Stress is not only about your mind, it can destroy your body, make you loose weight at critical point.  We all know Michael felt better this last years, but he was surely nothing to compare with the body he had 15 years ago  :roll:
He was still beautiful and attractive, but you cannot speak about "double" just because he doesn't look like the man he was when he was 30. I guess millions of 50 years old men would love to have the same body they had at 30...but they don't !

In HIStory he wasnt 30..  he was nearing 40.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on March 17, 2010, 05:59:17 PM
can someone point out to me who is white socks. im sorry if i have missed white socks THANKS
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: techdiva on March 18, 2010, 08:01:32 AM
Quote from: "city.gal1"
Quote from: "RK"
I watched some videos from whitesocks last night and she put a lot of the inconsistencies in this whole hoax in an understandable way. She brought out the fact that most of us think about Michael's message being the environment and saving the planet. Then she suggested "green man" at WATW along with other stuff and then brought up Mr orange pants. She then connected Orange pants to the cebu prison dancers who were also dressed in orange and suggested that MJ's message is  also "They don't really care about us.  So we can argue over if it is or isn't MJ but maybe we need to look at  why Orange pants was there.   This simple connection by colours had totally bypassed my brain. Whitesocks goes into a lot of detail and it makes a great deal of sense. Her whole series is called "connecting the dots" . Interestingly enough, TMZ also seem to be watching her work and borrowing from it .

Never heard of the whitesocks videos -- can you provide a link, sounds interesting.
it does sound interesting. I have been looking into the colors after watching a few hoax videos.  They talk about he different colors of flowers at the memorial and funeral. I have never heard of whitesocks either.  Please post the links of the videos.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 18, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
As I´ve said before, what I don´t understand is the speechless fragment that doesn´t match the intro nor the begining of the original song.
Other thing I could stress is that there is no orange pants in the TII poster.

But I don´t know what to think about the doubles. The examples I have examined deeply are all him.

It matches the end more if i recall.....but i know i dont know why we didnt hear or see more of Speechless. That totally make me pull my hair out!
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on March 18, 2010, 12:33:06 PM
thanks for answering me
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: MJfan4life on March 18, 2010, 12:43:03 PM
i wanna believe that its all michael in TII but just the way he moves in the orange pants, like in the way you make me feel, i would right off the bat say its not michael. but then we have speechless and i 100% sure its our mj. its all just really confusing
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 21, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: "MJfan4life"
i wanna believe that its all michael in TII but just the way he moves in the orange pants, like in the way you make me feel, i would right off the bat say its not michael. but then we have speechless and i 100% sure its our mj. its all just really confusing

If you watch the original "the way you make me feel" music video, you will see that MJ actually does all the same dance moves...  including the one where he "bounds across the stage".
Its all there to see if you research.. its the real MJ.
Title: Re: TII Michael with his pants in orange
Post by: Jacksonology on March 23, 2010, 01:31:58 AM
i sniff a double  ;)
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