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Title: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: tinker_bell on December 02, 2009, 11:07:46 AM
TMZ posted this today:

Quote
Stevie Wonder Breaks Down During MJ Tribute
Posted Dec 2nd 2009 7:00AM by TMZ Staff

Stevie Wonder broke down and nearly cried in the middle of a major televised performance -- and it was all because of Michael Jackson.
The emotional breakdown occurred on-stage at the Rock and Roll 25th Hall of Fame Anniversary Concert -- which aired on HBO this weekend.

Wonder was singing Jackson's, "The Way You Make Me Feel" -- when Stevie, still distraught by the death of his good friend, suddenly chokes up, hunches over and puts his face in his hands ... while the music continues to play.

[youtube:3gui92qy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvB7I2O7Zs8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3gui92qy]

It all goes down around 1:35 into the clip.

Stevie eventually pulls himself together and finished the song -- and ultimately received a hug from John Legend and a huge ovation from the crowd.

That made me so sad... Stevie's perfomance at the Memorial was one of the most powerful, emotional and sincere to me, i cried with him back then and right now i just don't know what to think anymore... It seems that after TII release there haven't been any major happenings which could be regarded a clues. I spoke to my mother last night, I actually almost forced her to watch some hoax-videos on YT with me and after watching those she literally ruined all of the clues related to family/friends behaviour/slip-ups etc. Yet she admitted the 02 Conference was very wierd... I often fear we're never gonna know the real and whole truth about what happened or did not happen on 6/25 and there are days i think This is it for me, no more... but for some reason i just can't let it go... why? Why are we all here? What makes us go through this every day, run all the things through our mind for 1 mln times, spend sleepless nights in front of the screen. Why has this become so personal for those who never met MJ or weren't even big fans of him in a long while?
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: dunno on December 02, 2009, 11:11:25 AM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
... but for some reason i just can't let it go... why? Why are we all here? What makes us go through this every day, run all the things through our mind for 1 mln times, spend sleepless nights in front of the screen. Why has this become so personal for those who never met MJ or weren't even big fans of him in a long while?

Yes, why...I have no idea. But I feel just the same, I can't stop thinking about him, thinking about the hoax...
when will this stop??
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Suzy on December 02, 2009, 11:16:59 AM
Michael was/is a falen angel.I must cry somtimes when I hear his songs.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: MJ-Fan on December 02, 2009, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: "dunno"
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
... but for some reason i just can't let it go... why? Why are we all here? What makes us go through this every day, run all the things through our mind for 1 mln times, spend sleepless nights in front of the screen. Why has this become so personal for those who never met MJ or weren't even big fans of him in a long while?

Yes, why...I have no idea. But I feel just the same, I can't stop thinking about him, thinking about the hoax...
when will this stop??

I feel how you feel. Every minute I'm alone and not really doing anything, all I think about is Michael and/or the hoax. I mean, I like listening to his music and watching his vids, but the hoax stuff gets kinda tiring and upsetting after a while. I mean, I enjoy it here, it's fun but.. I dunno.. Confusing I guess! I just wanna know when it's gonna end! I miss him so much :(
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Emma_Lollipop on December 02, 2009, 11:32:37 AM
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Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Iused2dream on December 02, 2009, 11:35:41 AM
Tinker_bell....you just put into words exactly how I've been feeling, especially the past few weeks.  I hadn't cried in years but the past few months, I seem to cry at least a few minutes + every single day.  I'm thankful that Michael has brought an "awakening/hope" back into my soul.  Whether or not we ever know where he is and what actually happened, I know that is one of the messages he wanted for us, so I'm forever grateful!  I just can't seem to let go...my mind tells me it's b/c of all the clues & inconsistencies but my conscience tells me it's b/c I'm not strong enough to handle truly losing him.  Ahhh...here come the tears again.  This is all very hard!   :cry:  :cry:   Stevie Wonder exudes kindness/love just as MJ does.  Another blessed soul/gift given to us.  Thanks to God for sharing them both w/us!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: dunno on December 02, 2009, 11:37:02 AM
It was fun to investigate back in July and August..but now..it has gone too far. I need a huge clue or closure. I prefer the clue! ;)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: lisap27 on December 02, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
i agree!! he's on my mind literally 24/7.. i think its cos we've had no closure on the whole thing an theres bin so many inconsistancies with everyone!! literally EVERYONE!! THEN YOU START TO THINK.. i wonder if there in on it..

i'm keeping the faith an listening to my heart although it feels like theres a missive hole in it a times.. :(

just got persivere an hopefully well have some light shed on things soon!! or something strong to go on!!

KEEP THE FAITH!! *hugs* :)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: CC on December 02, 2009, 11:59:03 AM
HI TINKER_BELL! AND ALL...!
I'M FEELING THE SAME AND I CAN'T LET HIM GO...

That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile, what's the use of crying
You'll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile


THINK: WE ARE JUST A FEW THAT BELIEVE HE IS ALIVE IN THE WORLD... THATS WHY... THATS THE REASON... WHY WE BELIEVE, WE ARE ALL FROM DIFERENT COUNTRYS, CULTURES, LANGUAGES, AGES, ALL DIFERENT... BUT WE HAVE MJ!
WHEN I FELL LIKE THAT, I LOOK THE VIDEO OF UNIVERSAL HORROR NIGHT AND TMZ SAIS THAT MJ AND HIS KIDS WENT THERE WITH LIZ TAYLOR AND LAUGH... I PUT THIS TOPIC... AND THE CIRCUS AT STAPLES THE DAY OF THE MEMORIAL AND OTHER FROM SOMEONE ELSE "ITS ALL ABOUT MAGIC" AND STARTS TO BELIVE AGAIN, I COME BACK HERE AND LOOK THIS STUFF AND FEEL WELL AGAIN.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mumof3 on December 02, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
I feel just the same but i dont think it is afew that think he is alive i think it is so many remeber things dont add up dont give up Stevie is a good friend and maybe he is sad that the mj is not there but the new Michael will be .that is what i hope
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: CC on December 02, 2009, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I feel just the same but i dont think it is afew that think he is alive i think it is so many remeber things dont add up dont give up Stevie is a good friend and maybe he is sad that the mj is not there but the new Michael will be .that is what i hope

JUST A FEW OF THE ALL AROUND THE WORLD, I MEAN... WE ARE NOT MAYORITY... BUT HE IS OK, I'M  :P WAITING THE BAM!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: tinker_bell on December 02, 2009, 12:12:05 PM
Gee, guyz, I'm looking for answers everywhere, see things that aren't even there and it scares me. Every night i'm hoping to get a clue at least in a dream but all i see when i close my eyes is an endless and chaotic sequence of all the articles, posts and videos. It's exhausting: things like TIAI, fake accounts of fake 'phothets', false predictions, ongoing dirt-shower in the media and what's even more exhausting is doubting about everything all the time.

But, apart of all that, i've never felt this incredible unity with so many people in the world and so tuned-in to my inner self at the same time! It's a unique experience that i shall never forget. So thankful to all of you for just being here!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Lorrie on December 02, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Thanks for the link to that wonderful and moving video, tinker_bell.

I understand exactly how you *and* Stevie Wonder feel. Although my belief that Michael is still alive hasn't wavered or diminished since I first began feeling that way shortly after June 25, I do have my teary-eyed moments several times a week.

Just seeing him being his normal lovely self is enough to make me emotional, not because I'm losing faith or hope, but because of how badly and unfairly he was treated for so long before and after June 25.

That's what's hardest for me to accept about this situation: not that Michael may never return and we may never know exactly what happened last summer, but that he repeatedly had to put up with so much preposterous crap and how often that must have broken his spirit and prevented him from accomplishing as much as he wanted to.

If ever there was a person who deserved better, Michael is him. So, while I don't need any more clues or direct knowledge of what went down on June 25, I would be beside myself with joy if something surfaced to let us all know without a doubt that Michael is still with us, safe, and happy. That would be enough to satisfy me.
Title: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Freeze Frame on December 02, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
Love Stevie!

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/stevie-wo ... breakdown/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/stevie-wonder-michael-jackson-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-emotional-breakdown/)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: somewherehotel on December 02, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
That is the only problem I have with the hoax.
My problem is called Stevie Wonder! I respect him so much and I always feel down seeing him speaking or singing about MJ  :cry:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Freeze Frame on December 02, 2009, 12:58:07 PM
Yeah he seems like such a stand-up guy. It's hard for me (as well) to think he is part of the hoax. But then again maybe he isn't? Very sad (but beautiful in a way) tribute to MJ's song.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: joyaboya on December 02, 2009, 01:09:29 PM
Oh my god, so sad :-( !
It's hard to watch Stevie Wonder breaking down!!!
But i don't think he's in the Hoax...he should be, b'cause it's sad to look at him like in that Video!
Thanks for the link...

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: *Mo* on December 02, 2009, 01:22:20 PM
Sorry guys, but is that really Stevie breaking down, or is that Stevie not remembering the lyrics anymore..?  To me it looks more like the second option!

Grab these and watch and listen again: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaelj ... efeel.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/thewayyoumakemefeel.html)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: lisap27 on December 02, 2009, 01:26:51 PM
i love stevie.. but i agree with *MO* he hardly sang a right word..

could have been embarassment.. i dunno!! feel awful for saying that but.. OPEN MINDED.. is the key for me.. explore all explainations.. IMO
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: knowhesalive on December 02, 2009, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Sorry guys, but is that really Stevie breaking down, or is that Stevie not remembering the lyrics anymore..?  To me it looks more like the second option!

Grab these and watch and listen again: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaelj ... efeel.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/thewayyoumakemefeel.html)

Right MO.. there is something very wrong here.. Here is the first part of Michaels song
Hey Pretty Baby With The
High Heels On
You Give Me Fever
Like I've Never, Ever Known
You're Just A Product Of ::: Stevie: uhhm uhhm uhhm
Loveliness::: Stevie: Loveliness
I Like The Groove Of:: Stevie:: uhhm uhhmm
Your Walk,
Your Talk, Your Dress:: Stevie: your shock your dress
I Feel Your Fever:: Stevie: I feel your body
From Miles Around
Stevie: from miles around[/b]
I'll Pick You Up In My Car
And We'll Paint The Town
Just Kiss Me Baby
And Tell Me Twice
That You're The One For Me

And i continues the entire song... I respect Stevie very much, but something isn't right here.. Either he doesn't know this song or someone rehearsed it with him shortly before this concert..IMO
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on December 02, 2009, 01:54:25 PM
:(
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Someone on December 02, 2009, 02:00:23 PM
Omg :(
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 02, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Sorry guys, but is that really Stevie breaking down, or is that Stevie not remembering the lyrics anymore..?  To me it looks more like the second option!

Grab these and watch and listen again: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaelj ... efeel.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/michaeljackson/thewayyoumakemefeel.html)

I agree with you.
It doesn't seem to me that he's very emotional, I had to laugh to be honest... :oops:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Loes on December 02, 2009, 02:18:08 PM
I think he's not in on the hoax and really was emotional over Michael.

There can only be a few people in on the hoax and Michael has so many friends. A lot of friends really think he's gone IMO and are just as sad as the fans ...  :(

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: mumof3 on December 02, 2009, 02:37:09 PM
Stevie looks very upset there and if you look at the comment under the video clip it says he has visited forest lawns he and a few members of family and fans have been there they got the information from a guard working there not sure what to believe today..
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: anotherpartofme on December 02, 2009, 03:18:06 PM
:cry: I don't need this today... So sad..
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: TheLLMJ on December 02, 2009, 03:31:06 PM
Can´t see that man cry.. :cry:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: badloving on December 02, 2009, 03:34:08 PM
well, not all people can be in the hoax!!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Freeze Frame on December 02, 2009, 03:50:27 PM
IMO forgetting/ messing up lyrics doesn't make his performance any less sincere.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: tinker_bell on December 02, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: "Lorrie"
So, while I don't need any more clues or direct knowledge of what went down on June 25, I would be beside myself with joy if something surfaced to let us all know without a doubt that Michael is still with us, safe, and happy. That would be enough to satisfy me.

i second that 100%, if only...
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mehere on December 02, 2009, 05:34:18 PM
Sorry but is he REALLY crying?  Does anyone see tears?  Kind of like Paris, were there tears?  Maybe I just didn't see them.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mumof3 on December 02, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
Gee, guyz, I'm looking for answers everywhere, see things that aren't even there and it scares me. Every night i'm hoping to get a clue at least in a dream but all i see when i close my eyes is an endless and chaotic sequence of all the articles, posts and videos. It's exhausting: things like TIAI, fake accounts of fake 'phothets', false predictions, ongoing dirt-shower in the media and what's even more exhausting is doubting about everything all the time.

But, apart of all that, i've never felt this incredible unity with so many people in the world and so tuned-in to my inner self at the same time! It's a unique experience that i shall never forget. So thankful to all of you for just being here!

Iknow the whole thing is driving me crazy before we heard the news i was normal i looked after my family and got on with life but now i drag myself to work and worry about this . Nothing adds up at all but seeing stevie like that  brings it home to me that we could all be wrong and the most talented kind caring person in the world who was so badly treated by the media has sadly died and the whole thing is so tragic but as you say cluse come to me dust bins come to me moving trees moving buildings i am going mad.. so i know how you all feel thanks goodnes i can come on here and natter.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mumof3 on December 02, 2009, 05:43:24 PM
Quote from: "Lorrie"
Thanks for the link to that wonderful and moving video, tinker_bell.

I understand exactly how you *and* Stevie Wonder feel. Although my belief that Michael is still alive hasn't wavered or diminished since I first began feeling that way shortly after June 25, I do have my teary-eyed moments several times a week.

Just seeing him being his normal lovely self is enough to make me emotional, not because I'm losing faith or hope, but because of how badly and unfairly he was treated for so long before and after June 25.

That's what's hardest for me to accept about this situation: not that Michael may never return and we may never know exactly what happened last summer, but that he repeatedly had to put up with so much preposterous crap and how often that must have broken his spirit and prevented him from accomplishing as much as he wanted to.

If ever there was a person who deserved better, Michael is him. So, while I don't need any more clues or direct knowledge of what went down on June 25, I would be beside myself with joy if something surfaced to let us all know without a doubt that Michael is still with us, safe, and happy. That would be enough to satisfy me.
so well put just how i feel how could this kind caring person be put through so much it makes me so sad
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: tinker_bell on December 02, 2009, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: "mehere"
Sorry but is he REALLY crying?  Does anyone see tears?  Kind of like Paris, were there tears?  Maybe I just didn't see them.

well frankly i can't really imagine SW faking emotions like that... sometimes i even feel ashamed for us looking for MJ friends' and relatives' tears with a magnifying glass although i understand the reasons why we do it... but still, it makes me feel kinda tabloid junkie  :cry:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: MJJ1982 on December 02, 2009, 05:46:50 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that his reaction was not emotional?

I don't say that Stevie is involved in the hoax, but I doubt about him being emotional during TWYMMF....
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mumof3 on December 02, 2009, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
Quote from: "mehere"
Sorry but is he REALLY crying?  Does anyone see tears?  Kind of like Paris, were there tears?  Maybe I just didn't see them.

well frankly i can't really imagine SW faking emotions like that... sometimes i even feel ashamed for us looking for MJ friends' and relatives' tears with a magnifying glass although i understand the reasons why we do it... but still, it makes me feel kinda tabloid junkie  :cry:


You are right Stevie was not faking emoions there it was very sad to see him like that and it is the first time my belief in Michael being alive has wavered i just dont think he is acting at all it is too much too ask a person to do and surly Stevie would have known about a hoax it has realy worried me now.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: tinker_bell on December 02, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"

You are right Stevie was not faking emoions there it was very sad to see him like that and it is the first time my belief in Michael being alive has wavered i just dont think he is acting at all it is too much too ask a person to do and surly Stevie would have known about a hoax it has realy worried me now.

These days are really bad.... first i saw a picture of Blanket crying at the Memorial, now this. I also noticed how Kenny Ortega's twitter changed. before TII release it was exploding with L.O.V.E. Where has all of that gone? And in one of the recent interviews after being asked of his plans for the near future, he said he didn't have the time to fully grieve over the loss of his friend so he wanted to catch up on that.... wth  :(
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: MJ777 on December 02, 2009, 06:44:12 PM
Stevie Wonder has cried several times while singing tribute songs to MJ. Just heartbreaking...

A fan who visited Forest Lawn to leave flowers for MJ spoke to one of the security guards and asked him who was visiting MJ's grave. He told her several family members, a few friends he did not recognize and Stevie Wonder (this was last month I think).

I understand how some of you feel. A part of me wants to believe in the hoax but there have not been any solid clues recently. I think it's hard for us to let go because MJ was a recluse these last few years. We feel like we missed out on seeing him and enjoying his new music and creativity. The molestation trials really hurt him, he just wanted to be alone with his kids. I don't think he was ready for a comeback yet...

His "death" was a major shock, we never expected him to leave us so soon. If it is a hoax, I'm one of the people who believes he won't make a comeback. I think he did it for privacy. In a way, his death is the greatest comeback for his career. He is breaking records all over again. We may hear some of his music released in the future. There has been a reawakening, people are realizing what a gift he was/is and missing him. So if he's alive, he has created the greatest comeback ever. If he's gone, it's still the greatest comeback ever but the world feels empty without him.

I'm so confused and I miss him. Sorry if this post is upsetting but I just watched Stevie Wonder's clip and I've been thinking of the lack of real clues so I am sad now.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: city.gal1 on December 02, 2009, 06:56:35 PM
For me, this is one of the saddest things that I have seen since 6/25 -- just about the only raw emotion that anyone has exhibited with regard to Mj's "death".

On the topic of emotion, I saw a clip today of the brothers show that is debuting this weekend and it looks like the first episode is going to deal with MJ's "death" -- crocodile tears and all.  When did they have time to tape the show in the midst of their brother's funeral?  How could they even tape a show?

The clip that I saw made me want to vomit because it looks like they're just further exploiting MJ.  Ugh...
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: icy55 on December 02, 2009, 07:09:18 PM
Stevie is an emotional man.. He will never fake emotions. There can only be 2 options

1. Stevie is not in the hoax (but how could they leave him out!)
2. Michael is singing with the angels

I cant choose any of these 2 options, because it breaks my heart...
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: MJ777 on December 02, 2009, 07:14:31 PM
Quote from: "icy55"
Stevie is an emotional man.. He will never fake emotions. There can only be 2 options

1. Stevie is not in the hoax (but how could they leave him out!)
2. Michael is singing with the angels

I cant choose any of these 2 options, because it breaks my heart...


My thoughts exactly  :cry:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: hesouttamylife on December 02, 2009, 08:51:33 PM
Stevie, you're breaking my heart :(   Now I am through.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: misha86 on December 02, 2009, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: "icy55"
Stevie is an emotional man.. He will never fake emotions. There can only be 2 options

1. Stevie is not in the hoax (but how could they leave him out!)
2. Michael is singing with the angels

I cant choose any of these 2 options, because it breaks my heart...
stevie is on the hoax...remember the lyric changes at the memorial to his song....

i have noticed every so often someone will come out all emotional about mike,remeber jackie crying..lmao, but imo he is 5 months 2 late :D
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: darkchild on December 02, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
You guys are so beautiful and wonderful.  I can always feel all the L.O.V.E. here for MJ.  I feel down many times since June 25, 2009.  My heart breaks every day for MJ, but in my heart I know that he is alive.  I cannot give up.  I must find the truth through all the twists and the turns daily.  Thank you for all your faith, your hope, and your joy! Together, we will find the truth. God bless you!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: shasta2001 on December 02, 2009, 11:41:41 PM
I pray every day for some kind of truth to come out. Good or bad. I am always hoping for the positive but some days are tough.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Lorrie on December 02, 2009, 11:51:53 PM
tinker_bell and mumof3, I think we're on the same wave length when it comes to not believing that Stevie would fake emotion. But if Michael's death really was faked, I don't think that many people are aware of it, including Stevie and many of his other true close friends. In my opinion, the situation involves only the very few people who really need to know, as opposed to it being a massive conspiracy operation with lots of players keeping secrets and trying to fool the general public.

Close friends and family visiting Forest Lawn don't affect my belief that Michael may still be alive for the same reason -- maybe they just don't know what's going on because there's no need for them to know. Simply being close to Michael isn't enough to get that kind of information.

Quote from: "MJ777"
I understand how some of you feel. A part of me wants to believe in the hoax but there have not been any solid clues recently. I think it's hard for us to let go because MJ was a recluse these last few years. We feel like we missed out on seeing him and enjoying his new music and creativity. The molestation trials really hurt him, he just wanted to be alone with his kids. I don't think he was ready for a comeback yet...

His "death" was a major shock, we never expected him to leave us so soon. If it is a hoax, I'm one of the people who believes he won't make a comeback. I think he did it for privacy. In a way, his death is the greatest comeback for his career. He is breaking records all over again. We may hear some of his music released in the future. There has been a reawakening, people are realizing what a gift he was/is and missing him. So if he's alive, he has created the greatest comeback ever. If he's gone, it's still the greatest comeback ever but the world feels empty without him.
I love this part of your comment, MJ777. Your explanation regarding how Michael's death can be viewed as the greatest comeback of his career is excellent, and I agree with you.

Still, I just really wish there were a clear sign to let us know that Michael is doing well. That's the one thing I want more than any other, even if we never see him in the flesh again. The lack of clues, news, and whatnot doesn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: take.me.to.neverland on December 02, 2009, 11:56:57 PM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
Gee, guyz, I'm looking for answers everywhere, see things that aren't even there and it scares me. Every night i'm hoping to get a clue at least in a dream but all i see when i close my eyes is an endless and chaotic sequence of all the articles, posts and videos. It's exhausting: things like TIAI, fake accounts of fake 'phothets', false predictions, ongoing dirt-shower in the media and what's even more exhausting is doubting about everything all the time.

But, apart of all that, i've never felt this incredible unity with so many people in the world and so tuned-in to my inner self at the same time! It's a unique experience that i shall never forget. So thankful to all of you for just being here!



I know exactly how you feel! When I go to sleep all I can think about is all the information I have looked at, and I just think and think and think!! When I sleep I also see an ongoing sequence of articles,videos,blogs, behind my eyelids! I haven't really slept at all! I cannot pry myself away from all of this. It is overwhelming :(
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: Melzy777 on December 03, 2009, 12:33:40 AM
Quote from: "Lorrie"
Quote from: "MJ777"
I understand how some of you feel. A part of me wants to believe in the hoax but there have not been any solid clues recently. I think it's hard for us to let go because MJ was a recluse these last few years. We feel like we missed out on seeing him and enjoying his new music and creativity. The molestation trials really hurt him, he just wanted to be alone with his kids. I don't think he was ready for a comeback yet...

His "death" was a major shock, we never expected him to leave us so soon. If it is a hoax, I'm one of the people who believes he won't make a comeback. I think he did it for privacy. In a way, his death is the greatest comeback for his career. He is breaking records all over again. We may hear some of his music released in the future. There has been a reawakening, people are realizing what a gift he was/is and missing him. So if he's alive, he has created the greatest comeback ever. If he's gone, it's still the greatest comeback ever but the world feels empty without him.
I love this part of your comment, MJ777. Your explanation regarding how Michael's death can be viewed as the greatest comeback of his career is excellent, and I agree with you.

Still, I just really wish there were a clear sign to let us know that Michael is doing well. That's the one thing I want more than any other, even if we never see him in the flesh again. The lack of clues, news, and whatnot doesn't bother me at all.

First I just want to quickly say that the song/statement "The way you make me feel" and the actions with it "crying" may be a message.

Secondly, I LOVE STEVIE. Watching that breaks my heart.

And, thirdly, I love what MJ777 wrote as well, and I feel the same. And, Lorrie, I wish the same thing too. Though, if Michael is alive and not coming back, and this was all done for his safety, and his children's safety so they can eventually live a quiet life, then I don't think he could give us a clear clue because it would never JUST be for US. If it was obvious enough that it was him, and that he's ok, then soon enough everyone would catch a hold of it and then the black cat's out of the proverbial bag.. That's why we get these little clues, that could just be someone messing with us. It's just the safest way if he doesn't want to be found out until he's ready - if he's ever ready.. At the end of the day WE have to decide for ourselves if it's Michael sending little clues, or someone else messing with us, and believe in one or the other because, as much as I hate to say it - that might be all we ever get.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: Butterfly J on December 03, 2009, 12:57:56 AM
Oh, I can´t watch this.  :cry:
I can´t understand it either why am I taking all this so personal. I already admited that I haven´t been greatest fan. I took him for granted and sort of forgot about him :oops:  So why did it knocked me out on 25th of Jun? Why is he on my mind 24/7? Why do I wanna cry if I see his face? Why his pain hurts me and why I´m waiting for him to come back?
I really can´t understand why I can´t let him go.
If only my  closest family and friends would know what´s going on with me last 5 months, they definietly would consider me as loco :|
Thank you guys for being here for me and for each other!
I love you all!
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: llebreknit on December 03, 2009, 03:40:03 AM
This is my first post here. Hello  :mrgreen:

First thing I thought when I saw the video it was that Stevie didnt remember the lyrics  8-)
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder TWYMMF
Post by: mjthelegendlives on December 03, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I feel just the same but i dont think it is afew that think he is alive i think it is so many remeber things dont add up dont give up Stevie is a good friend and maybe he is sad that the mj is not there but the new Michael will be .that is what i hope


You're right.  I've spoken to fans and non-fans of all ages about Michael's "death". At least half of them believe he is alive.  I even heard of it on the radio, and how the announcer thought the hoax was planned.  :o So many people can't be wrong, and it's not like we are in denial. I mean, even my father-in-law, who is 70 yrs. old, and not a fan,  believe he's alive!

I don't know why I can't let go of the idea he's still here sharing this planet with us.  I won't let go it either until everyone gets their facts straight, and I know what really happened. I know there isn't a great chance of knowing exactly what happened, but I'm glad I joined these forums, met people who love MJ like I do, and made new friends along the way.
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: HiMichael on December 03, 2009, 11:04:38 AM
This is so hard to watch... let's pray that he is upset because Michael is "gone" and not "dead" ... maybe he doesn't have closure either just like we do... it is frustrating and makes you want to cry, doesn't it?  Ohh, I hope that is the reason; this really looks genuine to me; he is not faking here. :cry:
Title: Re: Stevie Wonder Breaks Down at MJ Tribute
Post by: tinker_bell on December 03, 2009, 04:16:16 PM
on CNN today:

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Stevie Wonder named UN 'Messenger of Peace'
Wonder -- blind since birth -- will promote U.N. ideals and activities with an emphasis on championing for people with disabilities, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said <......> Wonder joins 10 other celebrities -- including actors George Clooney and Michael Douglas, cellist Yo-Yo Ma and primatologist Jane Goodall -- as advocates of the United Nations' work. Others include conductor Daniel Barenboim, author Paulo Coelho, violinist Midori Goto, Princess Haya Bint al Hussein, actor Charlize Theron and Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/03/stevie.wonder.un/index.html?eref=rss_showbiz&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_showbiz+%28RSS%3A+Entertainment%29

So proud of Stevie! Couldn't help thinking of Michael when i read that. He's the ultimate Messenger of Peace and Love for me...
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