Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 09:13:19 AM

Title: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 09:13:19 AM
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else that only family knows.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: virgo75 on February 16, 2010, 09:19:05 AM
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.

Sorry, but if dancers would like to visit MJ, I'm sure the Jacksons  would be OK with that, because the dancers were involved in Funeral and the family seemed to be nice to them. Unless AEG were in chanrge running all the show @ Funeral and Jacksons couldn't object to that.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 16, 2010, 09:36:42 AM
Well.. If Michael Jackson is alive, why go there then? And if you believe he is dead, then you shouldn't be here.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 09:42:07 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Well.. If Michael Jackson is alive, why go there then? And if you believe he is dead, then you shouldn't be here.

Don't tell me where I should or shouldn't be. Instead of blind believe of hoax try to find the truth, which it may be not what you are looking for!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 16, 2010, 09:48:13 AM
Well, I guess could be concluded from the 2 forest lawns every1z talking about...
but Did you know that there is a way they could have buried him in Neverland? aparently the could if they donate that area to the JW church! so if he passed he could be there, heck he could be there dead or alive!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 10:00:11 AM
And BTW why Dave Dave didn't visit MJ @Forest Lawn?? He and Miko were on LKL show when they had funeral. Even Gotham Chopra wasn't there. And they still didn't visit him yet. Unless they go to someplace else that nobody knows.  Or maybe MJ was cremated and there is no reason to go to Forest Lawn because there is no body.  
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: the arabian nights on February 16, 2010, 10:05:14 AM
what started as a good thread - seems to be going down hill
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: missyoumuch on February 16, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
keep this respectful people or i will lock this
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: mjboogie on February 16, 2010, 10:28:37 AM
Comeon guys, let us not fight ok. Let us all slow down a bit on this thread. I know what can help us. How about this? What evidence do we have that LEAD us to believe that MJ is buried somewhere else other than Glendale or was it the other one? In other words how about some of us posting what has gotten us to this point as far as the conflict of burial spots u know? Maybe we will catch something we overlooked right? We know MJ was not cremated right because of the embalmer info on the death certificate. Oh hell! Is the death certificate even valid. Yes, I said all this to say we do need to further investigate the burial spots, because you all are right there may not even be a BODY!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: mjboogie on February 16, 2010, 10:32:59 AM
Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:

Yes...But we cannot be sure if MJ is alive just because media say some strange things that making us to ask more questions. It could be done for ratings, all TV shows alive because of ratings, I know that because my friend is working on TV channel in europe, she is the director of marketing , she said they would do anything to bring higher ratings.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: King_Michael on February 16, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 03:22:23 PM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie

I'm sorry, but you obseesing too much the role of media because media do NOT always lie!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Kirsche on February 16, 2010, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "King_Michael"
Media said he is dead Michael always told us not to believe the media they always lie

I'm sorry, but you obseesing too much the role of media because media do NOT always lie!

MAybe not lie but almost always twisting things :D
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: lotus_sutra on February 16, 2010, 03:29:18 PM
Hmmmm Venus7, I see that you have recently joined and after the awful thread you posted the other morning (in which I was too slow to respond due to it being deleted) it seems that you like to create a lot of contoversy in an already controversial situation!  Makes me wonder who you really are and if you have any good intentions....
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on February 16, 2010, 03:38:14 PM
I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Raven on February 16, 2010, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
Your post does come across as a personal attack. Unlike you, I do find Venus' post interesting, since I had not learned before that MJ's family supposedly hardly visit the grave site, which contributes to the possibility of him being alive.

Nobody can be for sure whether he is dead or alive, except for the people nearest to him. Many people just want to find the truth, even if that means it would be something they don't like. And sorry to say, but I have not seen any shred of "evidence" as you call it that he is alive (or dead, for that matter). What you call "evidence" are indications, inconsistencies, uncertainties and so on.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on February 16, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I do not write this as an attack but I grow frustrated when reading threads such as this one.
Venus, I suggest that you have such strong doubts about whether Michael is alive perhaps reviewing ALL of the threads on this site. You ask why these people would not be visiting Michael's crypt, yet the crypt is empty so why would they. Most of these people are likely aware that Michael is alive. If you have followed all the information that has been gathered on this entire "Death Hoax" this would be apparent to you.

I do not know when you entered this investigation but I have been at this since June 27th and I have absolutely no doubt that Michael is ALIVE. I find many of your posts to be coming from a doubting perspective, as if you want someone to convince you otherwise. No one here can convince anyone of anything, you must do the investigating yourself. Even if that means going back to the beginning and looking at ALL the evidence  once again.

Threads such as this are not very conducive to a discussion when one's mind is not open to the possibilities and arguing with those who have researched extensively, from the beginning of all this, doesn't solve anything. Again, I suggest you go back and read it all, perhaps visit the MJKIT archives as well.
Your post does come across as a personal attack. Unlike you, I do find Venus' post interesting, since I had not learned before that MJ's family supposedly hardly visit the grave site, which contributes to the possibility of him being alive.

Nobody can be for sure whether he is dead or alive, except for the people nearest to him. Many people just want to find the truth, even if that means it would be something they don't like. And sorry to say, but I have not seen any shred of "evidence" as you call it that he is alive (or dead, for that matter). What you call "evidence" are indications, inconsistencies, uncertainties and so on.

As I stated this was not an attack on this person so do not tell me my intentions. It is my way of speaking and you are as entitled to your opinion as am I. Actually, you are on my ignore list as of now. I really do not wish to speak with you, at all.  This is my last post to you! Goodbye
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: still beLIEve on February 16, 2010, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????


I don't really consider it suspect that the dancers, Orianthi, or KO don't visit.
I mean, I don't visit any of my deceased co-workers.
Maybe go to the funeral, but not visit afterwards.

Also, in the beginning, visitation was supposed to be off limits to everyone but family.
So even if they wanted to go, they wouldn't be permitted in to the immediate area where MJ is supposed to be.


 :lol:  :lol:  you made me laugh.... i don´t visit my deceased co-workers either.... but none of them is Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!! :lol:  :lol:

I think this is one of the things that keeps me thinking this is a hoax.... it is weird enough that the family shows no emotion..... but the dancers.... we saw them cry just to work with him.... they are obviously as fans as we are..... I just can´t explain why they are so calm.... they lost their idol, their dream.... did you watch extras in this is it??? it was going to be the best show ever!! and they were so close to be there.... they should be devastated....
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: akiraka on February 16, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
mjboogie quote :

"Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all!"

Do you remember Joe's answer?

I don't know Larry, but I'll find out and I'll tell you . I can't understand how Larry didn't fall from the chair. Laughing of course.

This line goes for Oscar Prize  :lol:  :lol:  I'll never forget till I die.  :lol:

If I do remember well it was 2 weeks after June 25. Joe's answer is Godlike :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 16, 2010, 04:54:57 PM
Hi,
I am new here, and what I would like to say, is that I grew up with Michael Jackson music,  and I have mixed feelings at time.  I know in my heart that he is alive, no question asked, I have faith that he is. Sometimes I hear other negativity and I feel a doubt that he is dead. This is part of human nature. Obviously MJ is not dead his family will not go to FL., also his friends and co worker, neither Kenny Ortega. His name and year of birth nor the  year of death is engraved yet. He supposetly passed away 7 months actually going to 8 months. How does that explain?? How long does it take ??

Everything about MJ's death does not make any sense. BECAUSE HE IS ALIVE.

 ;)
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Raven on February 16, 2010, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:
Yes...one can wonder why he asked Joe that question. There was a lot of controversy at the time where MJ's body was, maybe he hoped to get the answer from Joe. Or maybe he wanted to establish that Joe was left out of a lot of family descisions. Or for another reason..
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Mariso83 on February 16, 2010, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else that only family knows.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????



Well no body in the crypt :P Michael is alive :P
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
I'll ignore any attacks at me, I don't to waste my energy on that.

Anyway...I just looked up Craig Harvey tweeter(http://http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla), and I noticed that he follows 3 people one of which is Scott Michaels and on his twitter(http://twitter.com/DeathHag (http://twitter.com/DeathHag)) he has  web link that called  http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html (http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html)   which it seems like tour agency in LA, and on that website on top written: "From the man who ran LA's notorious GRAVE LINE TOURS  who is also creator of http://www.findadeath.com (http://www.findadeath.com)" .
When you go to this last site  http://www.findadeath.com/ (http://www.findadeath.com/)  there is "directory"  of dead people, and MJ's name is missing. And why Craig Harvey following Scott Michaels?  Not sure if is anything significant
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 16, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
I'll ignore any attacks at me, I don't to waste my energy on that.

Anyway...I just looked up Craig Harvey tweeter(http://http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla), and I noticed that he follows 3 people one of which is Scott Michaels and on his twitter(http://twitter.com/DeathHag (http://twitter.com/DeathHag)) he has  web link that called  http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html (http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html)   which it seems like tour agency in LA, and on that website on top written: "From the man who ran LA's notorious GRAVE LINE TOURS  who is also creator of http://www.findadeath.com (http://www.findadeath.com)" .
When you go to this last site  http://www.findadeath.com/ (http://www.findadeath.com/)  there is "directory"  of dead people, and MJ's name is missing. And why Craig Harvey following Scott Michaels?  Not sure if is anything significant
:? yet another list! Who do you think is keeping him off those kinda lists? I dnt understand it! I dont know what to think! i also dont know it is anything significant!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 06:21:13 PM
Talking about the footage right in the beginning where dancers on TII talk about MJ with tears on their eyes, but It gives me feeling that this part was filmed AFTER June25. They had tears of GRIEF and not joy. Suff they were saying:

"I'm from Holland, and this is like...ten hours for me. It's like across the world. I came here for this audition."

"I told all my boys at home I'm coming to funk in front of Michael onstage.I'm just gonna dance for him. I don't care if I make it or nothing."

"Thank you, Michael. I'm excited. You've inspired everything in my life. My energy.You're why I dance"

"I remember being a little girl and wayching "Thriller" on TV with my mom...and thinking that was the coolest thing in the world."

"I go to sleep and just wake up, and the first thing I do is not even to eat, I just start playing your music..and start just dancing and moonwalking on a rug"

"I was like, "what I would give to be onstage with you." And the fact that I get to do that is amazing, so..."

"i'm from Australia...And I got word of your audition two days before it was about to happen...and I was on the next flight over."

"It begins. This is the beginning.I'm not even onstage yet... Like, I can't even imagine what's gonna happen backstage...that first show in London. I'm looking even farther ahead."

"I don't even know what I wanna do after this because this si Michael."

"i wanted to dance, you know what I mean? And that inspiration came from, you know, you. And you've inspired me and given me a reason to want to inspire others"

"Life is hard, right? I've kind of been searching for something to shake me up a little bit..and give me a kind of a meaning, to believe in something. And this is it."

 
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Mariso83 on February 16, 2010, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
Talking about the footage right in the beginning where dancers on TII talk about MJ with tears on their eyes, but It gives me feeling that this part was filmed AFTER June25. They had tears of GRIEF and not joy. Suff they were saying:

"I'm from Holland, and this is like...ten hours for me. It's like across the world. I came here for this audition."

"I told all my boys at home I'm coming to funk in front of Michael onstage.I'm just gonna dance for him. I don't care if I make it or nothing."

"Thank you, Michael. I'm excited. You've inspired everything in my life. My energy.You're why I dance"

"I remember being a little girl and wayching "Thriller" on TV with my mom...and thinking that was the coolest thing in the world."

"I go to sleep and just wake up, and the first thing I do is not even to eat, I just start playing your music..and start just dancing and moonwalking on a rug"

"I was like, "what I would give to be onstage with you." And the fact that I get to do that is amazing, so..."

"i'm from Australia...And I got word of your audition two days before it was about to happen...and I was on the next flight over."

"It begins. This is the beginning.I'm not even onstage yet... Like, I can't even imagine what's gonna happen backstage...that first show in London. I'm looking even farther ahead."

"I don't even know what I wanna do after this because this si Michael."

"i wanted to dance, you know what I mean? And that inspiration came from, you know, you. And you've inspired me and given me a reason to want to inspire others"

"Life is hard, right? I've kind of been searching for something to shake me up a little bit..and give me a kind of a meaning, to believe in something. And this is it."

 



It's before June 25. It's after the audition :) They were happy to be of MJ's dance crew :)
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 16, 2010, 06:56:57 PM
I was thinking about that too, it felt like it was filmed after but its after the auditions so..
actually half of them to me it seemed they had happy tears and some just sounded like they were sad, but I dunno
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: King_Michael on February 16, 2010, 08:56:57 PM
A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 16, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Speak for YOURSELF. We all have different opinions that shift both ways every day.
We all still confussed and that's why we are here.
SO STOP SAYING TO ANYONE WHO SHOUL OR SHOULD NOT BE HERE. End of the story.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Mariso83 on February 16, 2010, 09:07:48 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "King_Michael"
A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Speak for YOURSELF. We all have different opinions that shift both ways every day.
We all still confussed and that's why we are here.
SO STOP SAYING TO ANYONE WHO SHOUL OR SHOULD NOT BE HERE. End of the story.


Oh God.... :roll: chill out a little bit please. She wasn't rude with you. I agree with her though.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: still beLIEve on February 16, 2010, 11:25:38 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
Quote from: "Venus7"
Talking about the footage right in the beginning where dancers on TII talk about MJ with tears on their eyes, but It gives me feeling that this part was filmed AFTER June25. They had tears of GRIEF and not joy. Suff they were saying:

"I'm from Holland, and this is like...ten hours for me. It's like across the world. I came here for this audition."

"I told all my boys at home I'm coming to funk in front of Michael onstage.I'm just gonna dance for him. I don't care if I make it or nothing."

"Thank you, Michael. I'm excited. You've inspired everything in my life. My energy.You're why I dance"

"I remember being a little girl and wayching "Thriller" on TV with my mom...and thinking that was the coolest thing in the world."

"I go to sleep and just wake up, and the first thing I do is not even to eat, I just start playing your music..and start just dancing and moonwalking on a rug"

"I was like, "what I would give to be onstage with you." And the fact that I get to do that is amazing, so..."

"i'm from Australia...And I got word of your audition two days before it was about to happen...and I was on the next flight over."

"It begins. This is the beginning.I'm not even onstage yet... Like, I can't even imagine what's gonna happen backstage...that first show in London. I'm looking even farther ahead."

"I don't even know what I wanna do after this because this si Michael."

"i wanted to dance, you know what I mean? And that inspiration came from, you know, you. And you've inspired me and given me a reason to want to inspire others"

"Life is hard, right? I've kind of been searching for something to shake me up a little bit..and give me a kind of a meaning, to believe in something. And this is it."

 



It's before June 25. It's after the audition :) They were happy to be of MJ's dance crew :)

Yes it´s before.... I saw that video on youtube before 25.... I can´t find it now, sony is erasing everything... but it was before I´m sure....
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: King_Michael on February 16, 2010, 11:27:26 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "King_Michael"
A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Speak for YOURSELF. We all have different opinions that shift both ways every day.
We all still confussed and that's why we are here.
SO STOP SAYING TO ANYONE WHO SHOUL OR SHOULD NOT BE HERE. End of the story.


Oh God.... :roll: chill out a little bit please. She wasn't rude with you. I agree with her though.

lol im a guy but thanks for agreeing with me, im not saying get off the forum I have no say in that but all im saying is when someone says he is dead to a board that thinks he is alive of course your going to get a little backlash it's all for LOVE remember that, if you feel offended im sorry that wasn't my intent just letting you know that a lot of us are very emotional and saying he is dead is kind of hard especially when we are investigating the hoax, remember it's all for LOVE :)
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 16, 2010, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: "Raven"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Also remember when Jermaine did his second interview with Larry King ( with Larry King wife there?) and Larry asked Jermaine about the private service for the family. Jermaine just burst out laughing remember? Larry also asked Jermaine if Paris speech was staged remember? I was like WTF! Quick somebody upload that interview. THEN Larry asking JOe if he knew where MJ's body was? Comeone guys lets dig. I dont feel this is a wasted thread at all! :lol:
Yes...one can wonder why he asked Joe that question. There was a lot of controversy at the time where MJ's body was, maybe he hoped to get the answer from Joe. Or maybe he wanted to establish that Joe was left out of a lot of family descisions. Or for another reason..

At the time I didn't believe it was a hoax and I felt that Larry was asking in order to quiet the doubters. OBVIOUSLY we know what happened there...thanks Joe for leading me down that long road of doubt!
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: bec on February 17, 2010, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Agreed. I don't go to a Cat board and get in huge ALL CAPS fights with members because I say I don't love cats because I love dogs and we should talk about dogs and here's all the reasons dogs are better then cats and blah blah blah BLAH. At least not without getting FLAMED.

Sheesh.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Venus7 on February 17, 2010, 09:58:59 AM
I have never said that I'm 100% sure that MJ passed away.That's why I'm asking questions because I'm not sure if he is dead and I'm not sure if he is alive. But I'm sorry if I'm not screaming here something like "MJ is 100% alive!!!!", or "MJ is 100 % dead!"  because I don't know and nobody in this forum knows for sure. I just can't say anything like that, because I did't find anything yet to convince me in both theories.  
I understand when some people here screaming that they are sure 100% that MJ is alive, it is what they want to believe. I want to belive in that too, but my brain and my logic doesn't let me yet. But I hope that someday it will, when I see more evidence.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: still beLIEve on February 17, 2010, 03:53:37 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
I have never said that I'm 100% sure that MJ passed away.That's why I'm asking questions because I'm not sure if he is dead and I'm not sure if he is alive. But I'm sorry if I'm not screaming here something like "MJ is 100% alive!!!!", or "MJ is 100 % dead!"  because I don't know and nobody in this forum knows for sure. I just can't say anything like that, because I did't find anything yet to convince me in both theories.  
I understand when some people here screaming that they are sure 100% that MJ is alive, it is what they want to believe. I want to belive in that too, but my brain and my logic doesn't let me yet. But I hope that someday it will, when I see more evidence.


I read your posts.... and I know.... not all of us are english speakers so sometimes things can appear to be rude and maybe is your way of expression.... I think that your are here because in some way you believe too...

We are all trying to use our brain and logic.... but it´s our hearts what makes us believe strongly.... what does your heart tell you??

LOVE
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Mariso83 on February 17, 2010, 05:43:03 PM
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A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Speak for YOURSELF. We all have different opinions that shift both ways every day.
We all still confussed and that's why we are here.
SO STOP SAYING TO ANYONE WHO SHOUL OR SHOULD NOT BE HERE. End of the story.


Oh God.... :roll: chill out a little bit please. She wasn't rude with you. I agree with her though.

lol im a guy but thanks for agreeing with me, im not saying get off the forum I have no say in that but all im saying is when someone says he is dead to a board that thinks he is alive of course your going to get a little backlash it's all for LOVE remember that, if you feel offended im sorry that wasn't my intent just letting you know that a lot of us are very emotional and saying he is dead is kind of hard especially when we are investigating the hoax, remember it's all for LOVE :)


Oups sorry lol :oops:
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: Infinitylady on February 17, 2010, 08:41:33 PM
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[Venus7 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:39 pm

I'll ignore any attacks at me, I don't to waste my energy on that.

Anyway...I just looked up Craig Harvey tweeter(http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla (http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla)), and I noticed that he follows 3 people one of which is Scott Michaels and on his twitter(http://twitter.com/DeathHag (http://twitter.com/DeathHag)) he has web link that called http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html (http://www.dearlydepartedtours.com/DDT/index.html) which it seems like tour agency in LA, and on that website on top written: "From the man who ran LA's notorious GRAVE LINE TOURS who is also creator of http://www.findadeath.com (http://www.findadeath.com)" .
When you go to this last site http://www.findadeath.com/ (http://www.findadeath.com/) there is "directory" of dead people, and MJ's name is missing. And why Craig Harvey following Scott Michaels? Not sure if is anything significant/b]

Yeah, you're right. i did click on the link and didn't see his name in the directory. Hey, I even went in "M" list just to see it and nothing.  Elvis Presley's name is on there.  But when you go on the rest of the site they do have info about Michael and funeral.  
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: King_Michael on February 18, 2010, 01:44:34 AM
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Quote from: "Venus7"
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A hoax means it is not real so what type of reaction do you expect on this board when a majority of us believe he is alive

Speak for YOURSELF. We all have different opinions that shift both ways every day.
We all still confussed and that's why we are here.
SO STOP SAYING TO ANYONE WHO SHOUL OR SHOULD NOT BE HERE. End of the story.


Oh God.... :roll: chill out a little bit please. She wasn't rude with you. I agree with her though.

lol im a guy but thanks for agreeing with me, im not saying get off the forum I have no say in that but all im saying is when someone says he is dead to a board that thinks he is alive of course your going to get a little backlash it's all for LOVE remember that, if you feel offended im sorry that wasn't my intent just letting you know that a lot of us are very emotional and saying he is dead is kind of hard especially when we are investigating the hoax, remember it's all for LOVE :)


Oups sorry lol :oops:

No problem most important thing is we are all here for Michael so lets all get along
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: andy1andy2 on February 18, 2010, 02:34:57 AM
The reason why Michael's  name is missing in Find A Death .com is because they only list dead people on their site. ;)
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: the arabian nights on February 20, 2010, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
OK...As we know MJ's own family never visits him @Forest Lawn. Which is strange of course. From that we can assume that Michael burried someplace else that only family knows.  BUT.....
Why we NEVER see people from rehearsals like dancers, Orianthi, KO visiting MJ in Forest Lawn???  They were the last people who were involved with him and close to him right before June25, working on TII rehearsals, and he was an idol for those dancers, for god's sake!!!! WTH is goling on??????????????????????

any visits yet?
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 20, 2010, 07:04:07 PM
I heard that since Karen Faye went to the crypt and took and sold pictures of the grave, the Jacksons locked down visitation and only family are allowed in now...  or those accompanied by family.
Title: Re: WHY??
Post by: the arabian nights on February 20, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
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I heard that since Karen Faye went to the crypt and took and sold pictures of the grave, the Jacksons locked down visitation and only family are allowed in now...  or those accompanied by family.
so does that mean - no one attends?
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