Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => This Is It => After June 25, 2009 => This is It ~ DVD & Blu Ray => Topic started by: Jacksonology on February 10, 2010, 01:35:42 PM
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In Your Opinion what were Doubles in the Movie??? Pics would be nice too of the doubles.
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in Smooth Criminal.
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Michael Jackson did all performances himself in TII.
The only thing that I suspect is that they used some old footage of Michael.
Also in the begining where dancers who made it, are talking about MJ in present time with tears on their eyes, I think it was shoot after he died because you can see those tears are not tears of happiness , they are tears of grieve.
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in Smooth Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in SmootS Ih Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
How can you be sure, there were no other doubles - are you privvy to stuff that we are not? .. and I know it was a stunt-double, that's why I mentioned it.
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in SmootS Ih Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
How can you be sure, there were no other doubles - are you privvy to stuff that we are not? .. and I know it was a stunt-double, that's why I mentioned it.
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion. I never said I was sure. Why so confrontational?
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in SmootS Ih Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
How can you be sure, there were no other doubles - are you privvy to stuff that we are not? .. and I know it was a stunt-double, that's why I mentioned it.
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion. I never said I was sure. Why so confrontational?
I'm not, you just read it that way.
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what bugs me is that TII never mention Michael's death, would be appropiate to put something like 1958-2009 with his song "gone too soon " in the background at the end of the movie.
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Guy in the red pants and smooth criminal is Michael himself. I watched TII so many times, in theaters and I watched and keep watching in my house Blu-Ray DVD on 60" HDTV. He's amazing!!!
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That is so true.. I mean, if you dont know that Michael is '''dead'' and you go and watch This is It, Nothing from that movie would have tell you about his dead!! I mean look to the introtext of The movie This Is It:
I was the spring of 2009. at the age of 50, after a decade's absence from the stage, Michael Jackson was quietley performing and crafting an entirely NEW CONCERT EXPRIENCE!
His only audience was a small group of technicians and dancers who watched Michael create a show that would have been his return to the stage.
This film consists of footage captured during the rehearsel period from March through June. It was intended for Michael's personal library and as ORGINAL FILM content FOR THE SHOW.
on June 25th, Michae and his team were eight days from traveling to London to began their final dress rehearsals for an unpressedenet 50 sold out concerts.
With the permission of the Michael Jackson Estate and thanks to a few cameras that caught the magic, here is a glimpse of the passionate gift Michael was preparing for his fans and the AUDIENCES OF THE WORLD!!!!!!! (HIS HOAX??)
when I was watching the Movieintro, Nothing of this information told me that he died on 25th june.
The end of the movie:
Michael Jackson, KING OF POP, Loves live forever!
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I also got an impresion that footage with dancers and some rehearsals they were shooting was at first for some kind of Reality Show where dancers competing to be dancers for MJ and then they would go with him on his TII Tour.
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The autopsy report must be fake or about someone else because it says he had osteoporosis & arthritis in his legs. If that is the case, he definitely wouldn't be able to dance like he was in This Is It, his legs would not be able to handle it it would hurt him & if he had osteoporosis his bones definitely wouldn't be able to handle it, drugged or not. Trust me I know, my grandma started getting arthritis in her legs when she was 60 & it was hard for her to walk it hurt her. & now she has some osteoporosis & arthritis & can't walk or stand for very long at all. So either the autopsy report is fake or there were doubles in the movie so AEG could make it look like he was healthy & collect their money.
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Im not pretty sure, I first thought that were some doubles but.. then I saw TII again.. and.. I dont think so anymore.. because maybe it didnt look like michael but, that voice.. and the way he talked.. i mean.. body language.. thats why im not so sure about it
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In the film there was a mj with 7`s on his red shirt , no shades and stain on his pants but also there was a mj with no 7`s on his red shirt ,no stain on pants and shades.
were these two people ?
just curious?
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in Smooth Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
I agree 1000000000%
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By the way Smooth Criminal on TII was stiched: old movie footage of "Smooth Criminal" from something between 1999-2002 stiched with last years rehearsals of Smooth Criminal @ Staples.
On Sm.Cr. "movie" footage Mike is younger and his features are just like he looked between 1999-2002. Also his voice from rehearsals of Sm.Cr. where he was wearing white fedora and white jacket sounds like when he was little younger. Kenny Ortega just added there 06/2009 rehearsals of Sm.Cr.
But it was ALWAYS Michael, nobody else has his talent or moves like him. He is the KING!!!
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I think some people were confused about red pants Michael and golden sparkly pants Michael is because he was wearing oversized and long jacket that visualy made him look shorter.
But it was Michael Jackson, the best musician and singer in the planet and history!!!
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In my opinion no Dbls. except stunt ,I have been watching Mj whenever possible ,long before any internet was around . since age 7 . I saw the original airing of The Ed Sullivan show , Sonny & Cher show ,Carol Burnett show . The jackson Variety show , Thriller you name it I watched it . The Trial coverage , everything except tabloid Trash . I was not aware of how much some people reviled and ridiculed MJ till I got on the net and U-tube I say that is MJ based Mostly, on his hands . Can't do Plastic surgery ,on your hands { I guess you could ,but who would?} And Mj had unusually large hands for a man of his stature in my opinion .Its all in the hands .plus I own video of Mj and I have been looking at him and listening to him and admiring him my whole life .I feel special I got to live through his whole life . :D
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In my opinion no Dbls. except stunt ,I have been watching Mj whenever possible ,long before any internet was around . since age 7 . I saw the original airing of The Ed Sullivan show , Sonny & Cher show ,Carol Burnett show . The jackson Variety show , Thriller you name it I watched it . The Trial coverage , everything except tabloid Trash . I was not aware of how much some people reviled and ridiculed MJ till I got on the net and U-tube I say that is MJ based Mostly, on his hands . Can't do Plastic surgery ,on your hands { I guess you could ,but who would?} And Mj had unusually large hands for a man of his stature in my opinion .Its all in the hands .plus I own video of Mj and I have been looking at him and listening to him and admiring him my whole life .I feel special I got to live through his whole life . :D
I agree! I too, have followed him all my life. I was lucky enough to see him live when the Victory tour stopped here. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THOSE HANDS.
;)
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Which is here in the picture Michael Jackson? Have a look at the fingers.
http://[url=http][img]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5718/hndeverschi.jpg[/img][/url]
Dangerous Tour. Have a look of the nose.
http://[url=http][img]http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5964/dangerousnase1.jpg[/img][/url]
This is it
Thats not Michael.
http://[url=http][img]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3504/doubleuon.jpg[/img][/url]
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This is it
Thats not Michael.
http://[url=http][img]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3504/doubleuon.jpg[/img][/url]
On the left is Navy and he is not on TII movie! I watched TII so many time and HE IS NOT THERE.
Or tell me where exactly Navy is in TII, I will look it up right now.
Not sure about right picture, it could be Michael.
p.s. actually, after looking at the picture on the Right, I'm pretty sure is Michael himself!
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I don't think there were doubles because of the hoax, Michael knew he would be gone for a while and that we would miss him a lot so he left us this to hold us over until he returns, his voice was amazing especially in human nature and i cant stop loving you, I think as he got older his voice became better what do you guys think?
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You know, I went three times to the "documentary" when it was in the theatres (first time I went to a movie more than once) and I could have sworn it wasn't Michael every take. But, then when I watched my home copy the spots where I thought were a double didn't seem so anymore. I had the feeling that I wasn't seeing the same thing in my home DVD's as I saw in the movie house. I believe this has been mentioned somewhere before but I wanted to say I had a strange feeling that I was watching a different version of what was in the theatres. Just my opinion.
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
When do you see the doubles?
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Here is Michael in real Bad Video.But first have a look of the Picture. Look of the Hair and the Nose. The pictures are of the same video, and from the real Bad Video. Sorry for my english, but it is not my language.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3192/bad21w.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3192/bad21w.jpg)
on 1.53 is coming the other MJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbd0wxGH_Lw&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbd0wxGH_Lw&feature=fvw)
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All MJ
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All MJ
x 2.
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
When do you see the doubles?
Through the whole movie or at least a BIG part of the movie. Mike can do a lot, but change height, body, weight and facial structures? That he can not. I can really not believe that there are people thinking that red pants for instance is Mike, the guy can't even dance! And then we have that fairy on stage during The Way You Make Me Feel and the guy without teeth (chom chomp thasa cool moof)... Come on, it's really insulting IMO to him to even THINK it could be him. Michael Jackson can dance, some of the guys/gals in TII can't, or at least pretend they can't.
Here is the blog we wrote after watching it: http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2 ... kumentary/ (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-documentary-or-mockumentary/)
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in Smooth Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
was it cause didnt kenny say, michael got to do some stunt like stuff? if they used a stunt double why would he say mj got to do some stunt stuff, wouldnt he have just said they used a stunt double :S
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what bugs me is that TII never mention Michael's death, would be appropiate to put something like 1958-2009 with his song "gone too soon " in the background at the end of the movie.
thats was my thought, when i first went to see it i was like wasnt this supposed to be kind of a tribute wheres the in memory of, rip, oh gone too soon, or even 1958-2009 they had NOTHING.. not one thing.
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The autopsy report must be fake or about someone else because it says he had osteoporosis & arthritis in his legs. If that is the case, he definitely wouldn't be able to dance like he was in This Is It, his legs would not be able to handle it it would hurt him & if he had osteoporosis his bones definitely wouldn't be able to handle it, drugged or not. Trust me I know, my grandma started getting arthritis in her legs when she was 60 & it was hard for her to walk it hurt her. & now she has some osteoporosis & arthritis & can't walk or stand for very long at all. So either the autopsy report is fake or there were doubles in the movie so AEG could make it look like he was healthy & collect their money.
thats what i dont understand, the autopsy says all these things about his lungs being bad and his bones being weak or stuff and him being addicted to drugs, how can a person with that many problems be able to dance like hes still 30 ? i dont get it lol
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Im not pretty sure, I first thought that were some doubles but.. then I saw TII again.. and.. I dont think so anymore.. because maybe it didnt look like michael but, that voice.. and the way he talked.. i mean.. body language.. thats why im not so sure about it
i dont know if there were doubles anymore i thought their were but then i remembered a dr had stated he had recently been doing some work on his face, he said he was fixing up things that were done badly and didnt look to great cause michael wanted to look his best when he got back out there, so many because of the changed everyone assumed it was doubles, but i think it might have been mj, all the way thru unless of course the stunt double for SC was used :)
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Here is Michael in real Bad Video.But first have a look of the Picture. Look of the Hair and the Nose. The pictures are of the same video, and from the real Bad Video. Sorry for my english, but it is not my language.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3192/bad21w.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3192/bad21w.jpg)
on 1.53 is coming the other MJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbd0wxGH_Lw&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbd0wxGH_Lw&feature=fvw)
if there was a double in bad, thats a damn good look alike lol
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
When do you see the doubles?
Through the whole movie or at least a BIG part of the movie. Mike can do a lot, but change height, body, weight and facial structures? That he can not. I can really not believe that there are people thinking that red pants for instance is Mike, the guy can't even dance! And then we have that fairy on stage during The Way You Make Me Feel and the guy without teeth (chom chomp thasa cool moof)... Come on, it's really insulting IMO to him to even THINK it could be him. Michael Jackson can dance, some of the guys/gals in TII can't, or at least pretend they can't.
Here is the blog we wrote after watching it: http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2 ... kumentary/ (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-documentary-or-mockumentary/)
haha omg souza the red pants guy thats what me and my sis said we were like dude he cant even do the moves right, and the way you make me feel guy, i thought he was mj just buy the face, but the dancing i thought he was just being goofy lmao, cus he didnt have sunglasses on , hmm maybe we shud find a close up picture of him, actually i think i had some in my posts under pictures of michael :)
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
When do you see the doubles?
Through the whole movie or at least a BIG part of the movie. Mike can do a lot, but change height, body, weight and facial structures? That he can not. I can really not believe that there are people thinking that red pants for instance is Mike, the guy can't even dance! And then we have that fairy on stage during The Way You Make Me Feel and the guy without teeth (chom chomp thasa cool moof)... Come on, it's really insulting IMO to him to even THINK it could be him. Michael Jackson can dance, some of the guys/gals in TII can't, or at least pretend they can't.
Here is the blog we wrote after watching it: http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2 ... kumentary/ (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-documentary-or-mockumentary/)
i just noticed you put fairy lmao he did look like a fairy that actually made me crack up, and the guy with no teeth HAHAHAHAHA omg you kill me, moof :P Oh and remember he was chewing guum in that part haha :)
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I agree with you Souza.
Have also followed Michael Jackson his entire
career. But, unlike some, I cannot watch this "movie" at all in some comfort zone. Went to theater once,
was given DVD, can't get through the Human Nature voice warm-up.
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I believe the Red Pants Guy was a double a damn good one like O2-dude.
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As I said before, there is NO DOUBLES in this movie.
Whoever thinks the opposite, buy Blu-Ray DVD and watch it on big screen HDTV at your house and you will see that there is no doubles.
The reason why guy in red pants looks shorter is because he was wearing oversized and little long jacket that visionaly made him look shorter!
And other shoots of Mike were from old footage, like some shoots from Smooth Criminal where he was wearing white fedora, white jacket and black pants with the blue background behind him. He looked younger and even his voice sounds little younger, but it was Michael himself sometime between 1999-2002.
And who ever say there were doubles, please be more specific and point out where exactly are dobles and why you think is a double???
Thank you.
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I don't believe there we're any doubles in TII.
Why would they use doubles in first place?? It just doesnt make any sense. :|
And where on earth could they find someone with that looks exactly like Michael, acts like him, sounds like him, sings like him, walks like him and so on.
Even the impersonaters that look the most like him, like E Casanova, doesnt look like Michael at all...
The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
@people who compare Michael's pics: do you look the same on every picture? :geek:
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i do think that doubles were used in movie. imo michael only appeared when he was wearing his signature highwater pants all the others were doubles. he also appeared for the dancers auditions. i have blu ray disc and that is what i see. i still cant believe how some people can watch this movie and look at these totally different looking people and say they are the same person.there are at least 3 doubles in the movie excluding the stunt double.
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i still cant believe how some people can watch this movie and look at these totally different looking people and say they are the same person.there are at least 3 doubles in the movie excluding the stunt double.
Yes, this is absolutely true. I agree with you.
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I forgot about Cool moof guy - I think he's a double too.
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This is something I've been contemplating for a while,
I just got the two-disc special edition DVD for my birthday a couple days ago and it's been playing non-stop.
NOW, what I have noticed is that IF they were all Michael, his facial structure changed quite a bit in those few short months. If you watch the special features about the dance auditions, you will see that MJ looked exactly how he did during the Bashir documentary when he had on the burgundy silk shirt, and also during the trial.
But he changed quite suddenly, I've heard about him getting other work done during this time but im on the fence here.
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The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
:shock: :lol: NO WAY!
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There is no way orange pants was Michael unless MJ was deliberately trying to act like a double by dancing strangely, awkwardly and goofy, singing off-key, twisting his face up, then they'd switch back to black pants and he was his normal dazzling self with smooth moves and awesome perfect voice.
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Quote from: frogh777 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:28 pm
That is so true.. I mean, if you dont know that Michael is '''dead'' and you go and watch This is It, Nothing from that movie would have tell you about his dead!! I mean look to the introtext of The movie This Is It:
I was the spring of 2009. at the age of 50, after a decade's absence from the stage, Michael Jackson was quietley performing and crafting an entirely NEW CONCERT EXPRIENCE!
His only audience was a small group of technicians and dancers who watched Michael create a show that would have been his return to the stage.
This film consists of footage captured during the rehearsel period from March through June. It was intended for Michael's personal library and as ORGINAL FILM content FOR THE SHOW.
on June 25th, Michae and his team were eight days from traveling to London to began their final dress rehearsals for an unpressedenet 50 sold out concerts.With the permission of the Michael Jackson Estate and thanks to a few cameras that caught the magic, here is a glimpse of the passionate gift Michael was preparing for his fans and the AUDIENCES OF THE WORLD!!!!!!! (HIS HOAX??)
when I was watching the Movieintro, Nothing of this information told me that he died on 25th june.
The end of the movie:
Michael Jackson, KING OF POP, Loves live forever!
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Yeah, I posted this somewhere on another post here.It's probably in the TIAII post. I had mentioned I had to go back and look at the Intro of the DVD because this is what I noticed. There were no 1958-2009 memoirs or anything which I take it very strange. There is noway this should or could have been an error. I believe it was meant not to be printed in there IMO.
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The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
:shock: :lol: NO WAY!
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How is this not looking like Michael to you?
Just check out his hands...
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/351.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/351.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/374.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/374.jpg)
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I don't believe there were doubles, but if the autopsy report is to be believed & he was truly as sick as it says, then there would be NO way he could dance & sing like he did in This Is It, his body would be extremely weak & like I said his bones would not be able to hold his weight while he's dancing like that if he had bad arthritis & osteoporosis on top of all the many other things listed in the AR.
On another note, speaking of doubles/impersonators...on Showbiz Tonight they were talking about MJ & the Conrad Murray charges & they did a recap of MJ's "death", during the recap they showed E'casanova being interviewed about MJ's "passing" @ THE MEMORIAL in video not pictures! So I guess that pretty much kills the theory that it was E'cas that died on June 25th.
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The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
:shock: :lol: NO WAY!
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How is this not looking like Michael to you?
Just check out his hands...
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/351.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/351.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/374.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/374.jpg)
Please check out the face! Come on, that is NOT Mike. Also as far as I'm concerned, Mike has the bump on his left wrist, not his right.
I will never believe that O2 dude is Michael Jackson, not in a hundred years.
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I know this might sound a bit way out there but it did cross my mind weather orange pants
could be wearing a mj mask.This could be someone in special hollywood make up.It would be so easy to create a professional make up job.Orange pants never took his glasses off to show us his eyes.Like i said it`s a bit way out but in hollywood anything is possible.
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Imagine how Michael would feel if he learned that fans do not believe it was him on occasions, dancing, singing...
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
When do you see the doubles?
Through the whole movie or at least a BIG part of the movie. Mike can do a lot, but change height, body, weight and facial structures? That he can not. I can really not believe that there are people thinking that red pants for instance is Mike, the guy can't even dance! And then we have that fairy on stage during The Way You Make Me Feel and the guy without teeth (chom chomp thasa cool moof)... Come on, it's really insulting IMO to him to even THINK it could be him. Michael Jackson can dance, some of the guys/gals in TII can't, or at least pretend they can't.
Here is the blog we wrote after watching it: http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2 ... kumentary/ (http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-documentary-or-mockumentary/)
Hi Souza,
Although I agree with you that red pants has some strange moves, that doesn't have to mean he isn't Michael. Maybe he was just in the mood for some fairy-dancing! And also the guy without teeth is Michael IMHO. Look at 0:40 in this vid, Michael definitely had done something with his lips (filler or something?) It's difficult to see his upper-teeth.
[youtube:2kya1ryj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=435uzLbdmNA&feature=fvw[/youtube:2kya1ryj].
Because some filler 'dissapears' after several months, this can be the explanation that somestimes his upper-teeth can be seen, and sometimes (just after a recent treatment) they can't hardly be seen.
Souza en Mo, superbedankt voor jullie harde werk op deze site, door jullie ben ik de hoop nooit verloren! xx Do
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please dont even get me started on red pants this guys mouth was as wide as his face. look at how sloppy he is dressed. #1 michael was always neat his clothes fit him well. he always wore the best clothes not stuff that looks like it can come from the salvation army. check out the guys in the highwater pants notice how they dress big difference.the thriller guy looked like a michael of yesteryear he looks so young
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I don't believe there we're any doubles in TII.
Why would they use doubles in first place?? It just doesnt make any sense. :|
And where on earth could they find someone with that looks exactly like Michael, acts like him, sounds like him, sings like him, walks like him and so on.
Even the impersonaters that look the most like him, like E Casanova, doesnt look like Michael at all...
The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
@people who compare Michael's pics: do you look the same on every picture? :geek:
I did´t see doubles at all.... for me it´s him all the time.... and he was amazing.... there no such a good double.... imposible...
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please dont even get me started on red pants this guys mouth was as wide as his face. look at how sloppy he is dressed. #1 michael was always neat his clothes fit him well. he always wore the best clothes not stuff that looks like it can come from the salvation army. check out the guys in the highwater pants notice how they dress big difference.the thriller guy looked like a michael of yesteryear he looks so young
Maybe his mouth was wide, just as in this vid [youtube:129vmtqd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEnWIX5CuTI&feature=related[/youtube:129vmtqd].
Very sexy in my opinion!!! And if you watch the Michael Jackson home movies, there is a piece in it when he goes with his brothers to Alabama and while sitting in the car, he told them that he wanted to go to the salvation army to find some really good stuff!!!! What I'm trying to say is that Michael was just like a chameleon and he had different looks all the time! And the movie is about rehearsels so he doesn't have to look like a popstar on stage in front of an audience all the times!
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the problem with the doubles were if they could not dance then they had a good voice and could sing and vice-versa. thats why some songs were done lip singing like billie jean even though that guy couldnt dance or sing
@do
lets not make mike out to be some kind of alien. a person can only change so much in a two month span. and i do believe that everyone knows how he liked to shop at salvation army now tell me something new. its all for love
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That is not Michael. No way.
http://[url=http][img]http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8712/tiirot1.jpg[/img][/url]
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Imagine how Michael would feel if he learned that fans do not believe it was him on occasions, dancing, singing...
Yes, or that his fans don't even see it's not him...
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Orange pants is a double anyone else see more doubles other then orange pants?
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the problem with the doubles were if they could not dance then they had a good voice and could sing and vice-versa. thats why some songs were done lip singing like billie jean even though that guy couldnt dance or sing
@do
lets not make mike out to be some kind of alien. a person can only change so much in a two month span. and i do believe that everyone knows how he liked to shop at salvation army now tell me something new. its all for love
Ofcourse it's all for love, and I respect your opinion very much, I just have a different one. I definitely do not make some kind of an alien of Michael, and I don't care how he looks (and I think he looks great!), it's all about his heart. If you have something done with your face (and that's obvious in his case), yes, it can look different in a two month span. I was just trying to explain why I thought it could be Michael. And about the clothes: I don't believe that he wore stage-clothes all the time (especially not in his own time), and I never saw salvation army clothes in the movie. But I agree very much with you that yes, orange pants looks 'strange'. But I find it so hard to believe that he would use a double, especially if it was to meant to be a movie instead of concerts!
Hugs and peace! Do
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Just go with your gut feeling, nobody will convince each other at this point.
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Imagine how Michael would feel if he learned that fans do not believe it was him on occasions, dancing, singing...
Yes, or that his fans don't even see it's not him...
Well in my humble opinion, there needs to be people on both sides of an issue, so there you go. I, however, will remain neutral, despite my intense dislike of this subject and the deep plunge in excitement over watching TII for the first time that has just taken place within me.. ToT
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The big hands thing is only due to hard medication/drugs.
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The same with the O2 announcement: that's definitly Michael! Can't see why it would have been someone else...
:shock: :lol: NO WAY!
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How is this not looking like Michael to you?
Just check out his hands...
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/351.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/351.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearan ... ss/374.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/appearances/o2press/374.jpg)
Please check out the face! Come on, that is NOT Mike. Also as far as I'm concerned, Mike has the bump on his left wrist, not his right.
I will never believe that O2 dude is Michael Jackson, not in a hundred years.
I already checked out his face and I only see Michael in that face.
Why do you think they used a double for the O2 announcement? :|
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I already checked out his face and I only see Michael in that face.
Why do you think they used a double for the O2 announcement?
http://[url=http][img]http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4884/derechtemj.jpg[/img][/url]
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in SmootS Ih Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
How can you be sure, there were no other doubles - are you privvy to stuff that we are not? .. and I know it was a stunt-double, that's why I mentioned it.
Ortega said so...
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I think red pants guy and also the guy sliding down the bannisters in SmootS Ih Criminal.
The guy sliding down the bannister was a stunt-double, that is fact. IMHO there were no other doubles in TII - it was all Michael.
How can you be sure, there were no other doubles - are you privvy to stuff that we are not? .. and I know it was a stunt-double, that's why I mentioned it.
Ortega said so...
Oh it must be true then (not).
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I already checked out his face and I only see Michael in that face.
Why do you think they used a double for the O2 announcement?
http://[url=http][img]http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4884/derechtemj.jpg[/img][/url]
Wow, I must admit, they look like two different 'Michaels'! Or is it possible that it just seems like because of the different lightning? :o
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Wow, I must admit, they look like two different 'Michaels'! Or is it possible that it just seems like because of the different lightning? :o
I would rather say - photoshoping than the lightning, photoshoping to make "O2" guy look more like MJ,
there are no other pics of O2 guy available other then the "official" pics, so i just somehow cannot trust they are 100% genuine and untouched by comp
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Wow, I must admit, they look like two different 'Michaels'! Or is it possible that it just seems like because of the different lightning? :o
I would rather say - photoshoping than the lightning, photoshoping to make "O2" guy look more like MJ,
there are no other pics of O2 guy available other then the "official" pics, so i just somehow cannot trust they are 100% genuine and untouched by comp
OK, that's a possibility, but how can they photoshop the live announcement of 'Michael' at the O2 as we seen it on tv? In the pictures it seems that the two 'Michaels' have really different lips. I'm so confused!! :shock:
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I would rather say - photoshoping than the lightning, photoshoping to make "O2" guy look more like MJ,
there are no other pics of O2 guy available other then the "official" pics, so i just somehow cannot trust they are 100% genuine and untouched by comp
...ok, and who is it? Its not a cameraman.
http://[url=http][img]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9/o2vh1.jpg[/img][/url]
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I would rather say - photoshoping than the lightning, photoshoping to make "O2" guy look more like MJ,
there are no other pics of O2 guy available other then the "official" pics, so i just somehow cannot trust they are 100% genuine and untouched by comp
...ok, and who is it? Its not a cameraman.
http://[url=http][img]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9/o2vh1.jpg[/img][/url]
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I already checked out his face and I only see Michael in that face.
Why do you think they used a double for the O2 announcement?
http://[url=http][img]http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4884/derechtemj.jpg[/img][/url]
Both still look like Michael to me. ;)
It's just the lightning that makes he look a little different.
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I would rather say - photoshoping than the lightning, photoshoping to make "O2" guy look more like MJ,
there are no other pics of O2 guy available other then the "official" pics, so i just somehow cannot trust they are 100% genuine and untouched by comp
...ok, and who is it? Its not a cameraman.
http://[url=http][img]http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9/o2vh1.jpg[/img][/url]
OMG are joking? That's obviously a camera filming the pressconference from the back :lol:
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OMG are joking? That's obviously a camera filming the pressconference from the back
Yes, in the image on the right, but not the left image, which is a person behind the curtain.
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viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5447&start=0 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5447&start=0)
This was just posted in another thread. Very enlightening.
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As I said before, there is NO DOUBLES in this movie.
Whoever thinks the opposite, buy Blu-Ray DVD and watch it on big screen HDTV at your house and you will see that there is no doubles.
I disagree, the blue ray shows the doubles even better.
Has anyone ever wondered why there are two types of footage in This Is It? There's the HD footage, full screen:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/tii_red.jpg)
and then there's the smaller, low quality footage, which is not full screen:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/tii_small.jpg)
These are screenshots from the blue ray, and you can clearly see the difference in quality. I tend to believe that if Mike is indeed in This Is It, he's in low quality footage, and for some reason I think that footage was pre recorded.
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Mo,
I said beofre I didnt think there were any doubles. Then I thought there were...I changed my mind on this daily. Then I remembered someone saying on the old mjkit that the orange pants dude is actually one of MJ's dancers. When he is dancing, its not like MJ at all. And he looks different. younger...so now I change my mind to, YES, there is at least one double in the movie!! LOL
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Mo,
I said beofre I didnt think there were any doubles. Then I thought there were...I changed my mind on this daily. Then I remembered someone saying on the old mjkit that the orange pants dude is actually one of MJ's dancers. When he is dancing, its not like MJ at all. And he looks different. younger...so now I change my mind to, YES, there is at least one double in the movie!! LOL
But how could he change his voice JUST like Michael's voice? :S
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Mo,
I said beofre I didnt think there were any doubles. Then I thought there were...I changed my mind on this daily. Then I remembered someone saying on the old mjkit that the orange pants dude is actually one of MJ's dancers. When he is dancing, its not like MJ at all. And he looks different. younger...so now I change my mind to, YES, there is at least one double in the movie!! LOL
But how could he change his voice JUST like Michael's voice? :S
Lip-syncing
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Of course they use one track when they do a split screen
you see orange pant Michael and other Michael on 1 screen but they choose the sound recording they want
edit and put it in synch
The sound is always remixed and re recorder to be good enough for theatres
I really do not know about doubles.. I am sure when the dancers were rehearsing there would be a double but they chose not to show that part in the movie
Orange pant Michael does not move like Michael but again maybe he does look like like him
When i saw it in theatre i was 100% sure it was not Michael
Now I have it on Blue ray and not so sure
just his moves are strange... but why put a double for just a few shots?
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I didn't even think organge pants looked like Michael.
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Let's remember also that Michael Was visiting Dr Klein during those months to reconstruct his face ... and he did look good at the end
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Let's remember also that Michael Was visiting Dr Klein during those months to reconstruct his face ... and he did look good at the end
Its been mentioned before, Klein is a dermatologist and would not construct his face - he's not a plastic surgeon.
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Let's remember also that Michael Was visiting Dr Klein during those months to reconstruct his face ... and he did look good at the end
Can you say with certainty that that was Mike himself visiting doctors? Because I have serious doubts about that...
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As I said before, there is NO DOUBLES in this movie.
Whoever thinks the opposite, buy Blu-Ray DVD and watch it on big screen HDTV at your house and you will see that there is no doubles.
I disagree, the blue ray shows the doubles even better.
Has anyone ever wondered why there are two types of footage in This Is It? There's the HD footage, full screen:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/tii_red.jpg)
and then there's the smaller, low quality footage, which is not full screen:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/tii_small.jpg)
These are screenshots from the blue ray, and you can clearly see the difference in quality. I tend to believe that if Mike is indeed in This Is It, he's in low quality footage, and for some reason I think that footage was pre recorded.
so the one's in the HD footage are the doubles and the one in low quality is Michael?
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ALL IS MICHAEL IN TII, NO DOUBLES
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so the one's in the HD footage are the doubles and the one in low quality is Michael?
I didn't say that, I said: I tend to believe...
I however am also interested in getting to know why there are two types of footage in This Is It. Thoughts, anyone?
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ALL IS MICHAEL IN TII, NO DOUBLES
I hear you Venus, loud and clear, but there is absolutely NO WAY you can convince me that it's all Mike in This Is It, no matter how many times you post the same reply.
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I really don´t want to convince anyone.... but the one with the red pants is the one that sings "speechless" in a close shot... I really think is him.... he´s acting silly in "the way you make me feel"... that´s all....
I guess everyone will believe his own eyes.... I see him.... anyway is good to discuss this... I like to know what others think...
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It's always been known that Michael used doubles for appearances, so there is a possibility that O2 guy is a double, although that MJ look MORE like MJ to me than the MJs in this is it. Also, this is it was made by Kenny O, AEG & Sony the very people that are being called "bad guys", they made A LOT of money from this movie, dvd, blu ray sales, so why would it be out of the question that they would use doubles? & I'm pretty sure those moves orange pants guys was doing were NOT MJ at all, lol. But who knows? They had other days of rehearsing, they could just be playing a recording from one of those days & orange pants guy was lip synching. It's not impossible at all. Or it could be MJ, just not full on rehearsing acting silly. In the case no hoax & he really was as sick as the autopsy report claimed, there's no way he could have done any of that, so they would NEED doubles. But if there's a hoax, I'm starting to think some of these people are just money hungry & would do anything for the money. Doubles are not out of the question, Michael was in there but it certainly possible that not ALL of it was him, that's just how I see it.
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read this from a crew member of TII, and you'll see the exact area in Smooth Criminal where a double is shown (not just the stunt double):
http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/645790 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/645790)
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read this from a crew member of TII, and you'll see the exact area in Smooth Criminal where a double is shown (not just the stunt double):
http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/645790 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/645790)
Crew member..? Unknown source, a person claiming to be a technician, but wants to remain anonymous... :roll:
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Mo
I do not know for sure that the real Michael was the one going to Dr Klein.. I was not there...
But from my friend doctor it was known that he would get injection to fill up some parts of his face
From early 2009 pics to the last ones.. there is a huge different in his face.. The caving is not there anymore.. he surely had injections..Dr Klein says he is the one
and yes a dermatologist would be the one to use restylane, fillers, botox etc...
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So the doubles had all those plastic surgeries to look like Michael, lol seems like another topic but it makes some sense
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If you guys have ever seen Michael move and dance like a woman, with an extremely efeminate style.... I want to see clips of it, because I never have...
Real Michael doesnt wear sunglasses in TII, Mo n Souza were right from the start, they were able to see with clear eyes, no emotion clouding them. 7s shirt, non sunglasses is Michael, the rest are clearly, OBVIOUSLY not.
IOW, a little more crudely, Michael doesn't move like a flamboyant homosexual.
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If you guys have ever seen Michael move and dance like a woman, with an extremely efeminate style.... I want to see clips of it, because I never have...
Real Michael doesnt wear sunglasses in TII, Mo n Souza were right from the start, they were able to see with clear eyes, no emotion clouding them. 7s shirt, non sunglasses is Michael, the rest are clearly, OBVIOUSLY not.
IOW, a little more crudely, Michael doesn't move like a flamboyant homosexual.
So you think orange pants and everyone wearing sunglasses is a double? I think orange pants is and the one that sings cant stop lovin you
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If you guys have ever seen Michael move and dance like a woman, with an extremely efeminate style.... I want to see clips of it, because I never have...
Real Michael doesnt wear sunglasses in TII, Mo n Souza were right from the start, they were able to see with clear eyes, no emotion clouding them. 7s shirt, non sunglasses is Michael, the rest are clearly, OBVIOUSLY not.
IOW, a little more crudely, Michael doesn't move like a flamboyant homosexual.
Thanks, this is all that i was looking for!! bec your the best. you too Souza and Mo!
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
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I think any of the times we saw him with those giant shoulder pads was a double. I always though Michael had rather broad shoulders, but the guy with the shoulder pads had tiny shoulders, you can tell.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/125.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/125.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/123.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/123.jpg)
These, I think ARE him:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/042.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/042.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/097.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/097.jpg)
I love those last 2. x3
To me they don't look like shoulder pads, rather just the way the shoulders are on the jacket when he raises his arms up.
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I think any of the times we saw him with those giant shoulder pads was a double. I always though Michael had rather broad shoulders, but the guy with the shoulder pads had tiny shoulders, you can tell.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/125.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/125.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/123.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/123.jpg)
These, I think ARE him:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/042.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/042.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/097.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/097.jpg)
I love those last 2. x3
To me they don't look like shoulder pads, rather just the way the shoulders are on the jacket when he raises his arms up.
Sorry but that is all Michael.
Specially the first picture with the red jacket just look at his hands you can see the darker spots that he always have in the same exact spot plust look at his nails 1000% Mihcael.
Actually all TII is MJ himself...
There ie not single impresionist that can come close to MJ himself even ECasanova with tons of makeup, up close is nowhere close to real MJ and Navi not even close.
And i see lots of people think they used not one but 2 or even 3 doubles in TII, common people wake up.
So who are this Imaginary doubles actually "CLONES" you guys seeing?
Where are those doubles coming from are they cloning them from MJ DNA let's be serious here... its all MJ..
Ill repet myself all TII is MJ himself except the Stunt Double!!!
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I agree, it's all Michael in TII, except for the stunt double for Smooth Criminal. There might have been some weight-gaining as months grew by, which may contribute to the observed differences in appearance.
People should take care when stating that it was not Michael in this or that rehearsal shot and badly criticising his dancing or singing, they may be very wrong and insult Michael in that case.
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
I would like to know what the reason could be they used doubles?
Cause I just cant see why... :|
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
Sorry but you are wrong here it's all MJ himself... except the obivous stunt double..
If you think there is Double then you dont know MJ really well im sorry...
Just look at him do certains move even orange pants guy and you will see its his trademark moves/walks.
It's the way he is dressed that you get imrpesion that he is shorter/taller, its just MJ period.
Sorry but you are so wrong in keep stating its double...
I can bet you $1,000,000 on it..
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
Sorry but you are wrong here it's all MJ himself... except the obivous stunt double..
If you think there is Double then you dont know MJ really well im sorry...
Just look at him do certains move even orange pants guy and you will see its his trademark moves/walks.
It's the way he is dressed that you get imrpesion that he is shorter/taller, its just MJ period.
Sorry but you are so wrong in keep stating its double...
I can bet you $1,000,000 on it..
Then you'd better start saving up, as I will come to collect it if it turns out I wasn't wrong! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
Sorry but you are wrong here it's all MJ himself... except the obivous stunt double..
If you think there is Double then you dont know MJ really well im sorry...
Just look at him do certains move even orange pants guy and you will see its his trademark moves/walks.
It's the way he is dressed that you get imrpesion that he is shorter/taller, its just MJ period.
Sorry but you are so wrong in keep stating its double...
I can bet you $1,000,000 on it..
Then you'd better start saving up, as I will come to collect it if it turns out I wasn't wrong! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:
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If you think there is Double then you dont know MJ really well im sorry...
Just look at him do certains move even orange pants guy and you will see its his trademark moves/walks.
So Michael Jackson has always moved like a FAG? That's nonsense. Show me some clips of Michael Jackson exhibiting efeminate qualities in footage other then TII.
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No double looks that much like Michael, so imho it's all Michael, also at O2 in London.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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If you think there is Double then you dont know MJ really well im sorry...
Just look at him do certains move even orange pants guy and you will see its his trademark moves/walks.
So Michael Jackson has always moved like a FAG? That's nonsense. Show me some clips of Michael Jackson exhibiting efeminate qualities in footage other then TII.
what if that's really Michael...can u take that word back?
all i know is he liked to copy human's reactions...like smoking like cough ...stuff like that..
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No double looks that much like Michael, so imho it's all Michael, also at O2 in London.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
You guys can think what you want but to me it was never MJ at the O2 announcement.
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No double looks that much like Michael, so imho it's all Michael, also at O2 in London.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
You guys can think what you want but to me it was never MJ at the O2 announcement.
I didn't think it looked that much like him anyway - that's why we are having this discussion. If it looked exactly like him, we would be thinking it was him anyway.
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just recieved tii special edition did anyone get the three 3d pictures with it coz im dam sure the smooth criminal photo ISNT michael the nose looks too big the cin looks different and the foot looks smaller plz tell me if im wrong were do they get off selling fake pics of michael?
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I think there are doubles one minute he is dancing so effortlessly then the next he is struglling to do his sideway slide thing, his voice was amazing though especially in Human Nature and Earth song he sounds better then the original records which is hard to do that is why he is the greatest of all time!!! :D
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[youtube:2zvvfca4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-QQnYeZQd4[/youtube:2zvvfca4]
In this part who do you guys think is Michael and who is a double or if you think it's Michael all the way through
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i can't believe someone said the word FAG. i take offense to that being a lesbian woman and this is 2010 please people theres no need.
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Hello!!
In This is It always is Michael!!!!, how can you explain the Extraordinary similarity with real Michael??? :shock:
Agree!
Even with the best plastic surgeries it's impossible.
Never say it's impossible. To those who are convinced it's all Mike in This Is It: I think you're in for a surprise...
I would like to know what the reason could be they used doubles?
Cause I just cant see why... :|
I can think of million$ of reasons...but AEG's investment is a good start. I keep thinking about Joe Jackson's comments. Yes, we can't really rely on his comments, can we. However, would a father know his own son? I want to say that Joe's comments are not my reasons for believing there was a double, but why would he say that?
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I think any of the times we saw him with those giant shoulder pads was a double. I always though Michael had rather broad shoulders, but the guy with the shoulder pads had tiny shoulders, you can tell.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/125.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/125.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/123.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/123.jpg)
These, I think ARE him:
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/042.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/042.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit ... rs/097.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/097.jpg)
I love those last 2. x3
To me they don't look like shoulder pads, rather just the way the shoulders are on the jacket when he raises his arms up.
Sorry but that is all Michael.
Specially the first picture with the red jacket just look at his hands you can see the darker spots that he always have in the same exact spot plust look at his nails 1000% Mihcael.
Actually all TII is MJ himself...
There ie not single impresionist that can come close to MJ himself even ECasanova with tons of makeup, up close is nowhere close to real MJ and Navi not even close.
And i see lots of people think they used not one but 2 or even 3 doubles in TII, common people wake up.
So who are this Imaginary doubles actually "CLONES" you guys seeing?
Where are those doubles coming from are they cloning them from MJ DNA let's be serious here... its all MJ..
Ill repet myself all TII is MJ himself except the Stunt Double!!!
i think it is all mj - those jackets dont look too comfortable to me
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You guys can think what you want but to me it was never MJ at the O2 announcement.
Just "curious"....So you still think that THIS is not MJ?
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The man behind the curtain is MJ but the one on the stage? No...
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[youtube:gparqisa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-QQnYeZQd4[/youtube:gparqisa]
In this part who do you guys think is Michael and who is a double or if you think it's Michael all the way through
thank you for posting this video it was breathtaking
this was 100% mike as god and his mother intended
the reason i believe that they split the screen is that the did not have a full take in of him singing the entire song in the same clothes.
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You guys can think what you want but to me it was never MJ at the O2 announcement.
Just "curious"....So you still think that THIS is not MJ?
so do you have a pic of fake mj on stage and real mj by the curtain at the same time?
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That wouldn't make any difference to me - I just need proof it is him - I actually think it sounds like MJ's voice but it looks entirely like a different person altogether.
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i have heard people ask why would michael use doubles in tii ? imo i think doubles were used to show the different side of michael that the media has portrayed. for example the media said that michael was a homosexual so he showed someone acting like they were homosexual. the media said that michael never wanted to grow old he wanted to stay young forever so he showed them a young michael. the media said that michael was childish so he showed them someone who chewed gum and sucked on suckers. so i think the doubles in the movie each one of them had a certain role to play. so u say what about the singing and it sounding just like michael? imo you can find people everyday that can imitate someones elses voice comedians do it all the time look at jamie foxx and how he does his ray charles u cant tell the difference. but as far as the dancing goes no one can move like mike just look at orange pant. this is just my opinion.
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i have heard people ask why would michael use doubles in tii ? imo i think doubles were used to show the different side of michael that the media has portrayed. for example the media said that michael was a homosexual so he showed someone acting like they were homosexual. the media said that michael never wanted to grow old he wanted to stay young forever so he showed them a young michael. the media said that michael was childish so he showed them someone who chewed gum and sucked on suckers. so i think the doubles in the movie each one of them had a certain role to play. so u say what about the singing and it sounding just like michael? imo you can find people everyday that can imitate someones elses voice comedians do it all the time look at jamie foxx and how he does his ray charles u cant tell the difference. but as far as the dancing goes no one can move like mike just look at orange pant. this is just my opinion.
Good analysis, and most Likely they Lip-Synced
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You guys can think what you want but to me it was never MJ at the O2 announcement.
Just "curious"....So you still think that THIS is not MJ?
so do you have a pic of fake mj on stage and real mj by the curtain at the same time?
No, I DON'T.
What's your "sarcastic" comment supposed to mean? I asked a simple question. :roll:
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Honestly I didn't see any doubles. I think all the different changes were all one, just MJ. He changed into alot and out of alot clothing but all the changes is just one person the King of Pop MJ/Mikaeel.
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Lots of doubles, I even wonder if he's in there at all.
hi souza, i was so sure that there were no doubles but after all the research which is on the web it is clear that he used doubles heavily and the question is when do you see the real mj?
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guys have a look at this thread
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6185 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6185)