Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: *Mo* on February 08, 2010, 06:27:32 AM

Title: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: *Mo* on February 08, 2010, 06:27:32 AM
Addressing the hate messages, assumptions and accusations spread on the internet the last few days:

[youtube:1eulciqc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCMNCGskWo[/youtube:1eulciqc]

Thank you MJAlive999!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Puff on February 08, 2010, 06:29:10 AM
Thanks for this GREAT video! Please, take care of Mike's teaching...! :!:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: MJalive999 on February 08, 2010, 06:29:39 AM
Thank  YOU!  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: loyalfan on February 08, 2010, 06:34:49 AM
THE WAY I SEE THIS........ISNT IT EXACTLY WHAT MICHEAL WANTS US TO WAKE UP AND "SEE"...HOW EASY IT IS TO BELIEVE THE MEDIA........SO THAT WHEN HE RETURNS...AND HE WILL.......WE WILL ALL UNDERSTAND...........XXXXX
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: superflysister81 on February 08, 2010, 06:36:23 AM
I LOVE this video ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 08, 2010, 08:10:41 AM
It's all about L.O.V.E

Researching and not judging before you've spoke to the guy. I guess this is what Michael want us to, like MJalive has made this video for. Thanks.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: francisca81 on February 08, 2010, 09:36:33 AM
i agree..
the same thing is happening with murray, what happened to MJ.
that's sad...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: MJLover1990 on February 08, 2010, 09:49:06 AM
Wow! thank you for that video. This is what Michael wants us to see. We all know that the media is one big LIE and they are trying to make us hate Dr.Murray and see him as guilty. They are trying to change our perspective on everything we see on television. Innocent until proven guilty... absolutely!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: mjsweety on February 08, 2010, 10:00:54 AM
nice video but i don't get what you're all gettiing at! This implies that the hoax is for reasons such as : look what the media is capable of etc... I'm sorry but where does the involvement of officials come in? What about the coroner, LAPD,paramedics, UCLA etc...?If you ignore these peoples involvement then what does that mean for the hoax? That there was infact a body? Just not MJ's body? That would be implying something far worse imo...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: mjjveritas on February 08, 2010, 10:44:31 AM
In a similar vein, O.J. Simpson was acquitted in his court case but many people still think he is guilty of two murders. So someone can be convicted in the "court of public opinion" before any trial but also can be thought of as guilty post trial.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: mjgirl86 on February 08, 2010, 10:51:37 AM
Quote from: "francisca81"
i agree..
the same thing is happening with murray, what happened to MJ.
that's sad...

Hmmm... well it was bound to happen considering the situation, right?.... it is sad...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: jacilovesmichael on February 08, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
In a similar vein, O.J. Simpson was acquitted in his court case but many people still think he is guilty of two murders. So someone can be convicted in the "court of public opinion" before any trial but also can be thought of as guilty post trial.


Yeah kind of like Michael.. a lot of IGNORANT people still believe Michael molested children even though he was found NOT GUILTY.

I think if we believe in a hoax, we must believe that Dr. Murray is a big part of it. That means he is NOT guilty of killing anyone. He's being used but I believe he knows it. He's a black man who would probably be honored to be a part of something to fight against racism and injustice in general. I think the hoax has many reasons, not just one. And I think they are all intertwined. That is why the whole thing is GENIUS.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: DooDoo on February 08, 2010, 11:51:59 AM
I Love this video, I think it just hits the main point: Hasn't Michael taught us anything?!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: TinkerbellLovesMJ on February 08, 2010, 12:05:31 PM
Brilliant video!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: mjthelegendlives on February 08, 2010, 12:07:05 PM
Though I understand the frustration that many non believers feel, I dont think that spreading hate will get anywhere.  Even if Murray is guilty of MJ's death, say he overdosed MJ with medication, I think he deserves a fair trial.  He shouldn't be receiving all these hate messages, let alone death threats.  Good video.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Lizziebee on February 08, 2010, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Yeah kind of like Michael.. a lot of IGNORANT people still believe Michael molested children even though he was found NOT GUILTY.

I think if we believe in a hoax, we must believe that Dr. Murray is a big part of it. That means he is NOT guilty of killing anyone. He's being used but I believe he knows it. He's a black man who would probably be honored to be a part of something to fight against racism and injustice in general. I think the hoax has many reasons, not just one. And I think they are all intertwined. That is why the whole thing is GENIUS.

I'll second that!  :D

And yeah, it's very unfortunate that so many people HATE a man they really know nothing about.  :roll: Honestly, even before I became a beLIEver...I was so torn apart over Michael's "death" but not once did I feel strong anger or hate towards Murray. People would say that he should shoot himself in the heard etc. Seriously?? That's cruel. ESPECIALLY since he has not been proven guilty. It's sick. Do they HONESTLY think that Michael would wish that upon Murray?? Even IF this whole scenario was real and Michael was dependent on the drugs that Murray administered illegally....would Michael have blamed Murray?!?! I don't think so. And Like I've said many many times before, MICHAEL IS NOT NAIVE. So all this crap about Michael not knowing "what's good for him." is  :roll: He is a very intelligent man.  ;) Shamone now.  :) That's one of the main reasons I don't believe he 'died of acute propofol intoxication'. He was a healthy person who enjoyed learning about the human anatomy. I don't believe for one second that he'd do something that would harm his body. He'd put his kids first.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 08, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
Great vid! Definately : Stop the hate-parade !!

It's an evil escellating circle that wont get us anywhere. Searching revenche and being mean does no good in the long run.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: mumof3 on February 08, 2010, 02:13:54 PM
It just goes to show people have NOT listened to Michael all thease years It is love not hate If it is true Michael is dead he did not stab him shot him strangle him something went terrible wrong   but anyway I know Michael is alive so I am not worried today  but people are so cruel to kenny murray and even Karen they have started to attack.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 08, 2010, 02:37:59 PM
Brilliant video and so true. What happened to MJ is happening to Murray, will people ever learn. I just hope MJ does prove this to everyone. The media are pushing this Murray story and this is making people annoyed and p****ed off, it's the media who are brain washing people they can't think for themselves.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 08, 2010, 03:19:59 PM
Well, guys, but for the majority of the public there is "someone dead - by the hand of CM" as a fact = nobody denies.

Is this situation really comparative to MJ`s "case"? We did not have a lethal victim then - just allegations, assertions and incriminations ...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on February 09, 2010, 01:10:17 AM
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Aintnosunshine wrote: Is this situation really comparative to MJ`s "case"? We did not have a lethal victim then - just allegations, assertions and incriminations ...

I agree!  CM admits to giving MIchael those drugs, although he may not be telling the truth of how much propophol he administered.  I will let Murray have his day in court, but if and it is a big if, he is convicted, then can I hate him for killing the most sweetest, talented, loving man this world will ever know?  I will hate him for being an incompetent doctor, who left a patient alone on a drug that requires constant medical care and proper monitoring, who went against the hypocratic oath, and who did nothing to help MJ with a proper physician's care.  And believe me, if Michael is really dead and I sure as hell hope he is not, but if he is, then I bet he's none too happy with Murray either.  :evil:  :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: KINGdom52 on February 09, 2010, 06:24:27 AM
Thank you , Mo ! :)
 Totally agree.
Actually, I feel sorry for Murray , especially yesterday in the courthouse.
He was so expressionless sitting there , knowing that he has to pass through  all these .
I really really felt sorry for the guy. :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Beyond on February 09, 2010, 12:28:18 PM
Hello, thx for posting.      I dunno how relevant this video is but IF there's a hoax the ppl pulling the strings should be careful , some fans wont accept the fact that murray gets so little if they believe he killed the moonwalking wizard. Some might not think the right way and put Conrad in danger.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Kirsche on February 09, 2010, 04:41:39 PM
Thanks for this video! It's great and I totally agree!

We're not better than the media when we judge murray now....

Remember: Media lies, but your eyes don't
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: KINGdom52 on February 10, 2010, 06:16:31 AM
[attachment=0:3q31jpx4]The Innocent Man.JPG[/attachment:3q31jpx4]

If I sail to Acapulco or Cancun Mexico
There the law is waiting for me
If they won't take me in Cairo
then Lord where will I go ?
I'll die a man without a country
and only God knew I was innocent now.

Something to think about...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 10, 2010, 01:16:02 PM
Well, Mo, that`s quite something to investigate further ...  :)

At first I just remembered the Julie Driscoll Brian Auger Song "Way down to Cairo" and the history behind  way back then (if slaves managed to reach Cairo, Illinois, they were supposed to be free). See "Huckleberry Finn" as well.

Excerpt from Wikipedia:
Sharing in the culture of the South, many Cairo residents supported racial segregation. In 1909, a mob of hundreds lynched black resident Will James. Racial discrimination remained part of the society. In 1969, Cairo was the site of an intense civil rights struggle to end segregation and create job opportunities. The threat of violence resulted in the National Guard being called in to restore order. The United Front civil rights organization led a decade-long boycott of white-owned businesses—which encompassed virtually all the businesses in the town. Its economy crippled by the boycott and the shift of traffic away from the river, Cairo has emerged slowly from the years of conflict.

Further: ChildbyAdoption tweeted lately that the name Conrad Murray would not be real, but symbolism (she advised google-research on both Conrad and Murray - well, there`ll be some interesting finds, like "The Beserk" - didn`t get deeply into it yet ).

But what about this (also from Wikipedia):
In 1916 Billy Murray had a #10 hit record with "When You Drop Off at Cairo, Illinois". Other songs that refer to Cairo include "Road To Cairo" by cult American singer-songwriter David Ackles, later covered by Julie Driscoll Brian Auger (Trinity); and "Way Down in Cairo" by Stephen Foster, the great American songwriter of the 1800s.
Josh Ritter's "Monster Ballads" also refers to Cairo.
In literature, Cairo is referenced in the 19th century Mark Twain classic The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (and briefly in Life on the Mississippi[6])and in the 20th c. fantasy American Gods by Neil Gaiman.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Case: Murray - Condemned Without Trial
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 16, 2010, 01:02:00 AM
great video