Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: ThisTimeAround on December 01, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
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MJHD Founder:
"MJHD is closing down. We wish you the best of luck wherever you go. For the members who always supported this website, we thank you. It has been a journey, and we were glad to take it with you. Michael Jackson is alive, and we can at least rest knowing that.
For the haters, find L.O.V.E. You need to."
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ ... f=2&t=1796 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1796)
What's going on :?:
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omg! why?? :S :S
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huh! WTF`?
strange...hm But don't lose hope!!
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The stragenst thing is, this "so-called" admin joined on Mon Jun 01, 2009....could be hacked...or wierd...
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MJHD Founder:
"I am afraid that I cannot give too much of an explanation right now. There will be one up on the front page within a few days. I am sorry for those who truly care, but this is the way it has to be. I do find it interesting that those who did nothing but bash this site are so angry to see that it is closing.
But the bashing really has nothing to do with why we are closing. There are some things going on, behind the scenes, that you do not see; but it will be explained in a few days. And no, this isn't some conspiracy or anything like that. It is just another website on the internet that has reached the end of its life. So please do not read too much into things.
For those of you still looking for answers, there are many hoax-death forums out there. MJKIT is one of them. Google can give you the others. Unfortunatly for this site, the journey is over. This is not a cruel joke. So you need to get your friends emails, msn addresses, or any other contact information.
L.O.V.E to all, I will not be replying again."
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??? Not again ??? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
First crash.. then now closing it? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
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Very Interesting....
Either there is something REALLY great about to happen where that SITE is no longer needed or it's something else....
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The stragenst thing is, this "so-called" admin joined on Mon Jun 01, 2009....could be hacked...or wierd...
Hahas yeah I just noticed that. Weird huh? (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
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Wow... didn't think it was gonna happen so soon.
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MJHD is different to this site, is it not? I really hope so - I'm here till I know the truth!
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This really is interesting SPECIALLY the part of MJHD founder joined at 1th June 2009? wth Is going on, will the end be near? oooh I hope so!
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please tell me this site wont shut down. this wesbite has been like a drug. lol maybe we'll all become one again so we can all put our heads to together in figuring things out.
I suppose theres some kinda drama that i have absolutley no idea about of it but all im here for is M-J.
Michael-de-Jackson. haha
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This really is interesting SPECIALLY the part of MJHD founder joined at 1th June 2009? wth Is going on, will the end be near? oooh I hope so!
Has anyone offered an explantation on how this site was founded on June 1st? what about a reason for why its shutting down? *pushes homework aside* :o
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This really is interesting SPECIALLY the part of MJHD founder joined at 1th June 2009? wth Is going on, will the end be near? oooh I hope so!
Wasnt MJHD FOUNDER Amy????
How can you call yourself the founder if your not!!
PS im not new here used to be Kimsdu but this site wont accept my username anymore so im back under a new username after a week of trying to get in...
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by MJHD Founder » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:05 pm
Despite my claiming my last post was the last one, I thought I would just explain. I wanted to wait a couple of days for you all to see for yourselves...but I will tell you here.
The owner of MJHD (not the one hosting, which is DayDream, but the owner of the domain) is going to be selling the domain to someone else. So, you asked why we will not let someone else take over? We are. It is just a matter of time, and a matter of what the new owner will do with MJHD. In a few days this will be posted on the home page, after MJHD is moved to the owner's host. Anyone will be able to buy the domain, as it will be for sale.
I cannot explain why my account shows that I joined june 1. My account was created when this forum was, I can assure you. And do not think me being cold or heartless. I just wanted you to see for yourselves, but since you really want a full explanation, I have given it to you. The admins tried to run this site, but look at the posts. It didn't work out. Maybe the next person who buys the domain will be able to make things work better than we could.
We are sorry for this, we really are. Peace, love, and take care.
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maybe it is to get everyone all in one place,its strange though :shock:
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That is so weird, I mean first they crash then they close it why the hell did they made the forum then it's like the forum was build up for nothing this is so weird!
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they say the owner will sell the domain..that is just sad :evil:
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maybe it is to get everyone all in one place,its strange though :shock:
Could be onto something :D
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sell because? because this domain isn't nesecary anymore? :)
I don't believe the talk about "I don't know why I', set as member since 1th of june 2009" I bet he /she does know why! Maybe because this site was made when mj was planning this!
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gosh it'd be wonderful if Mj actually made up that forum on June 1st.. NOT SAYING THATS WHAT HAPPENED (not yelling just don't wanna make up rumors here :roll: )
but that would be a great plan.
one of the posts at MJHD mentioned that there are other forums concerning Mj's hoax death all acros the internet but I only know of two and one is closing while the other I HOPE stays working.
yeah missy, i'm not quite too sure i believe the june 1st explanation either. It just makes me wonder.
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they are in chaos heartbroken, so it looks like this family is gonna get bigger,now i hope it doesnt happen here i cant be homeless ,i think i might panic i really need my padded cell now :shock: :? :?
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Yes. Odd but I found I came here more so than other site to read, discuss, etc. I wonder what their traffic was? Members per day posting, joined, etc.
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yes..again.. :roll:
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sell because? because this domain isn't nesecary anymore? :)
I don't believe the talk about "I don't know why I', set as member since 1th of june 2009" I bet he /she does know why! Maybe because this site was made when mj was planning this!
The site was made on June 25th. See here http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljac ... xdeath.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com)
I guess this forum will have much more members now :). Unless... Mo and Souza, did you get an offer for selling this domain recently :lol: (joking)
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Well isnt this special.
What, isnt this the 3rd or 4th time now? Something is strange with that place, thats for sure. I was a member there and logged on a few times after mjkit was born. Now that there is a new site,I tried making a new account about 3 times and it wouldnt let me...SO, if there are any important posts there I would suggest saving them and maybe posting them here? Just a thought.
Amy was accused of starting the site before the 25th as we all know. Now this person says they did NOT start their account on June 1st??? WTFhell is that? June 1st? hmmmmmmmmmm....
Maybe something big IS gonna be happeneing!!!
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Yeah so many people are really hurt. The games over there need to stop. It was not the same after it went down. But the June 1st thing is a big HMMM. Hopefully this will bring the family in one spot like it use to be.
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Oh,, and WHO is this MJHD Founder person? Do we know their name? I havent been there since the new site launched so Im kinda lost...
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can it get any stranger is this the calm before the storm :?: am i getting carried away
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Well, this seems like "it's all about the money" or that's what they are telling us. I have been on both sites so welcome back to everyone from MJHD... we are here once again! Thanks to this site for being here through our trials and tribulations!
It's all about the L.O.V.E.! Should we have another backup site incase this one goes somewhere too? :?
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people say MJHD founder joined the site on june 1..dont know if that is true though
maybe she/he knows something we dont
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can it get any stranger is this the calm before the storm :?: am i getting carried away
Spakkle!!! You and your padded cell!! LOL!! Thats some funny shit!
Save a place for me will ya? I may need a straight jacket too.
I just had a funny thought!! All of a sudden the mental institutions around the world have an alarming increase in patients.....and they say "Oh they're all from those Michael JAckson Hoax sites....ahhh well no wonder!!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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"....why...why...." (sings to the tune of human nature...) ;)
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I still don't understand!!!! :shock:
OK, it is all for money but why selling, changing owners is equal to closing it?
Why money should mean closing the site???!!!!!
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MJHD Founder:
"MJHD is closing down. We wish you the best of luck wherever you go. For the members who always supported this website, we thank you. It has been a journey, and we were glad to take it with you. Michael Jackson is alive, and we can at least rest knowing that.
For the haters, find L.O.V.E. You need to."
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ ... f=2&t=1796 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1796)
What's going on :?:
So sad to hear that news i have been there for months but maybe it is for a good reason lets hope so.
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Oh,, and WHO is this MJHD Founder person? Do we know their name? I havent been there since the new site launched so Im kinda lost...
The only founder i know is Amy (Old MJHD) :? :? :?
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Wenn ich mir fast, hatte niemand vetrauen mehr ...... :?
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sell because? because this domain isn't nesecary anymore? :)
I don't believe the talk about "I don't know why I', set as member since 1th of june 2009" I bet he /she does know why! Maybe because this site was made when mj was planning this!
The site was made on June 25th. See here http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljac ... xdeath.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com)
I guess this forum will have much more members now :). Unless... Mo and Souza, did you get an offer for selling this domain recently :lol: (joking)
Even if the site was created on 25th June, that's very quick thinking and I imagine alot of work goes into creating a site - They didn't waste any time getting it up and running... suspicious!!
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I just thought of something. Remember when someone here said that at MJHD there were alot of rules and many people banned? Maybe that was a tactic by MJHD to get everyone over here because they knew they were gonna close for a some other reason?
I dont mean to put anyone down or discredit them at all. I just wanna question everything before i believe anything.
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I am not quite getting the reasoning for the Founders post. When you sell a site, isn't the amount that it's worth got something to do with the traffic level on the site? So if you tell us the site is closing we stop posting and visiting the site...the value is reduced as the traffic drops. Who wants to buy a site that no one is bothering to visit anymore? Seems to be shooting yourself in the foot...
How to Determine the Value of a Website
http://www.buysellwebsite.com/exchange/ ... -value.htm (http://www.buysellwebsite.com/exchange/determine-value.htm)
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The site was made on June 25th. See here http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljac ... xdeath.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com)
I guess this forum will have much more members now :). Unless... Mo and Souza, did you get an offer for selling this domain recently :lol: (joking)
Well, it's strange indeed... I thought that site was made on the late Sep/ early Nov... (http://i45.tinypic.com/2v27907.png)
LOL.. Mo and Souza, please do not sell this domain! We need the family here! :lol:
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Suspicious, not true :?: :roll:
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so is it closed like from now have they all been evicted :shock:
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no im certain we are all being gathered to one place mjs army is assembeling here ,now we wait :!:
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Amy tweeted this:
"amy_sampson Silence for me is no more. I don't want this - it's time to share. 24547 524423. Thankyou
then she tweeted soemthing about "peter pan is safe now" and "she did all that was required".......
and then deleted her twitter account... :? :? :?
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no im certain we are all being gathered to one place mjs army is assembeling here ,now we wait :!:
:shock: , ok well let's wait.. :lol:
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amy, the admin, closed her twitter account yesterday after leaving a weird message..saying she did all she was requested to (?).
it is not closed yet, the domain will be sold, we dont know when and or if the forum will really be closed..
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please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
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maybe it will be on TMZ :lol: :lol: lets ask harvey
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Wheee! Something must be going on! I think this was the "mini-Storm" :lol: Michael's Bam-day will be the biggest storm ever! :lol:
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maybe it will be on TMZ :lol: :lol: lets ask harvey
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I would like to know who will buy the domain. Michael? TNZ? This is also it?
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Well isnt this special.
What, isnt this the 3rd or 4th time now? Something is strange with that place, thats for sure. I was a member there and logged on a few times after mjkit was born. Now that there is a new site,I tried making a new account about 3 times and it wouldnt let me...SO, if there are any important posts there I would suggest saving them and maybe posting them here? Just a thought.
Amy was accused of starting the site before the 25th as we all know. Now this person says they did NOT start their account on June 1st??? WTFhell is that? June 1st? hmmmmmmmmmm....
Maybe something big IS gonna be happeneing!!!
Ok this is Off topic but your "Well isn't that special" reminds me of the church lady on SNL :P sorry..back on topic..WTF again?
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[quote = "SPAKKLE29FUL"] vielleicht ist es auf TMZ: lol:: lol: lässt bitten Harvey [/ quote sein wird]
Harvey ....... need you.
Lot new report.
Come on to the work, however, suddenly :lol:
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I hope we wont lose our home here.
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I would like to know who will buy the domain. Michael? TNZ? This is also it?
No, it's not Michael, TNZ or This is also it.. It's me! :lol: Nahhh I'm just joking sorry. :P I was just wondering the same question as you. :lol:
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please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
Listen to the MO-ster!!!!
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Well isnt this special.
What, isnt this the 3rd or 4th time now? Something is strange with that place, thats for sure. I was a member there and logged on a few times after mjkit was born. Now that there is a new site,I tried making a new account about 3 times and it wouldnt let me...SO, if there are any important posts there I would suggest saving them and maybe posting them here? Just a thought.
Amy was accused of starting the site before the 25th as we all know. Now this person says they did NOT start their account on June 1st??? WTFhell is that? June 1st? hmmmmmmmmmm....
Maybe something big IS gonna be happeneing!!!
Ok this is Off topic but your "Well isn't that special" reminds me of the church lady on SNL :P sorry..back on topic..WTF again?
I know!! thats where I got it from!! the Church Lady!! I love that!
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please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
Listen to the MO-ster!!!!
:lol: (http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8pu1j.png)(http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8pu1j.png)(http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8pu1j.png)
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Amy tweeted this:
"amy_sampson Silence for me is no more. I don't want this - it's time to share. 24547 524423. Thankyou
then she tweeted soemthing about "peter pan is safe now" and "she did all that was required".......
and then deleted her twitter account... :? :? :?
She tried to convince us when she was admin that she knew nothing and now all of a sudden she's tweeting this, can she be trusted????
I found MJHD very suspicious, I felt like i was on Big Brother.
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God
what is then only loose with those :x
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can it get any stranger is this the calm before the storm :?: am i getting carried away
Spakkle!!! You and your padded cell!! LOL!! Thats some funny shit!
Save a place for me will ya? I may need a straight jacket too.
I just had a funny thought!! All of a sudden the mental institutions around the world have an alarming increase in patients.....and they say "Oh they're all from those Michael JAckson Hoax sites....ahhh well no wonder!!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL I'll make a reservation for a padded room, get my straight jacket ready and hope for a nice shot of Thorizine at the end of the day LOL Then again, at the rate this is all going, I'll even opt for hydro therapy or shock treatments :P
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Amy tweeted this:
"amy_sampson Silence for me is no more. I don't want this - it's time to share. 24547 524423. Thankyou
then she tweeted soemthing about "peter pan is safe now" and "she did all that was required".......
and then deleted her twitter account... :? :? :?
She tried to convince us when she was admin that she knew nothing and now all of a sudden she's tweeting this, can she be trusted????
I found MJHD very suspicious, I felt like i was on Big Brother.
When we all found out months ago about when that site was actually created, I freaked out and was suspicious then. I KNOW someone was watching that site and Im sure they still are. Amy was a nice person when I pm'ed her in the beginning a few times but when someone posted her info, I freaked even more. I felt like I was being stalked.
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big brother :lol:
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can it get any stranger is this the calm before the storm :?: am i getting carried away
Spakkle!!! You and your padded cell!! LOL!! Thats some funny shit!
Save a place for me will ya? I may need a straight jacket too.
I just had a funny thought!! All of a sudden the mental institutions around the world have an alarming increase in patients.....and they say "Oh they're all from those Michael JAckson Hoax sites....ahhh well no wonder!!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL I'll make a reservation for a padded room, get my straight jacket ready and hope for a nice shot of Thorizine at the end of the day LOL Then again, at the rate this is all going, I'll even opt for hydro therapy or shock treatments :P
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
Listen to the MO-ster!!!!
THANK YOU MO AND SOUZA :)
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Amy tweeted this:
"amy_sampson Silence for me is no more. I don't want this - it's time to share. 24547 524423. Thankyou
then she tweeted soemthing about "peter pan is safe now" and "she did all that was required".......
and then deleted her twitter account... :? :? :?
She tried to convince us when she was admin that she knew nothing and now all of a sudden she's tweeting this, can she be trusted????
I found MJHD very suspicious, I felt like i was on Big Brother.
BIG BROTHER WAS IT THE ONE WITH JERMAINE :lol: :lol: SORRY
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Watch out how the members will increase ;)
I`d really like to know the truth behind it?
MJ finally coming back...would be nice..but I don't think so ...
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i am now building an extension to my padded cell help needed :lol: :lol:
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Well isnt this special.
What, isnt this the 3rd or 4th time now? Something is strange with that place, thats for sure. I was a member there and logged on a few times after mjkit was born. Now that there is a new site,I tried making a new account about 3 times and it wouldnt let me...SO, if there are any important posts there I would suggest saving them and maybe posting them here? Just a thought.
Amy was accused of starting the site before the 25th as we all know. Now this person says they did NOT start their account on June 1st??? WTFhell is that? June 1st? hmmmmmmmmmm....
Maybe something big IS gonna be happeneing!!!
Ok this is Off topic but your "Well isn't that special" reminds me of the church lady on SNL :P sorry..back on topic..WTF again?
I know!! thats where I got it from!! the Church Lady!! I love that!
OMG me too! She was hilarious! Well, he..but you know what I mean LOL
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i am now building an extension to my padded cell help needed :lol: :lol:
I like to help but I'm running around my room like a chickin without a head out of confusion :lol:
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could be.. :lol:
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[quote = "MJLover1990"] [quote = "SPAKKLE29FUL"] i jetzt ein Erweiterungsbau ich meine Gummizelle Hilfe brauchte: lol:: lol: [/ quote]
Ich mag helfen, aber ich bin herumlaufen mein Zimmer wie ein Chickin ohne Kopf aus der Verwirrung heraus: lol: [/ quote]
I do that since June on occasion ....... :lol:
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[quote = "MJLover1990"] [quote = "SPAKKLE29FUL"] i jetzt ein Erweiterungsbau ich meine Gummizelle Hilfe brauchte: lol:: lol: [/ quote]
Ich mag helfen, aber ich bin herumlaufen mein Zimmer wie ein Chickin ohne Kopf aus der Verwirrung heraus: lol: [/ quote]
I do that since June on occasion ....... :lol:
Yeah me too :lol:
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I can't believe it is closing down again.. I don't know what is going on at that site.
I was shocked when I first read about it, but now that I'm thinking about it some more it's not really that surprising...I mean it happened before and wasn't really the same anymore to me.
It's still a little sad I mean that was the first place I went to when I was still grieving about this whole thing.
But at the same time, this site is definetly a great place to investigate as well so we should all be happy this site is still up and running ( and will stay that way appariantly lol)
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i am now building an extension to my padded cell help needed :lol: :lol:
I'll volunteer!!!
Habitat for HUMANE Padded Cells!! (inside joke)
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Hello.
I am lurking from day one on this site and MJHD!
If i remember correctly..in the beginning there was a discussion about.. wen Amy signed up for the site?
People said it was before the statement of the dead from MJ.
Amy wrote a exlanation on the front of the site..that she bought the site like minutes after she was sure about the death from MJ..because she was affraid the al the name's would be taken :?
This was a big discussion!
This is what i remember from it :geek:
Already found it odd then!
Greetings Mattie
Sorry for my Englisch
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i am now building an extension to my padded cell help needed :lol: :lol:
LOL I'll help..but I'll need help with my shock treatment and hydro therapy rooms..any takers? :P LOL
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Hello.
I am lurking from day one on this site and MJHD!
If i remember correctly..in the beginning there was a discussion about.. wen Amy signed up for the site?
People said it was before the statement of the dead from MJ.
Amy wrote a exlanation on the front of the site..that she bought the site like minutes after she was sure about the death from MJ..because she was affraid the al the name's would be taken :?
This was a big discussion!
This is what i remember from it :geek:
Already found it odd then!
Greetings Mattie
Sorry for my Englisch
Yep, I remember that too!! Now who in their right mind after having just heard MJ "died" would be thinking "Oh crap!! I better start a website before all the domains get taken!!" NOT ME!!! That was the LAST thing on my mind! I was crying and wasnt thinking about starting a website!!
I smell fish!
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mmh...a bove all, I find very suspicious what Amy wrote on twitter ; and why closing her account? :? :?
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i am now building an extension to my padded cell help needed :lol: :lol:
LOL I'll help..but I'll need help with my shock treatment and hydro therapy rooms..any takers? :P LOL
I'll help you. Need some shock therapy myself :lol:
We can hold hands while receiving the chock. It will increase the outcome :lol: :lol: :lol:
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The MJHD forum just really went down...
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Forum already UNAVAILABLE...
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/forums/ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/forums/)
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The board is disbaled...GOODBYE FOR GOOD MJHD :(
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well its dead now :cry:
"Sorry but this board is currently unavailable."
well looks like ill have to find a new home here :D
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mmh...a bove all, I find very suspicious what Amy wrote on twitter ; and why closing her account? :? :?
Yea, me too.
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well its dead now :cry:
"Sorry but this board is currently unavailable."
well looks like ill have to find a new home here :D
We dont bite!! We're nice folks here!!
WELCOME NEWBIES!!!!!
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That was it :(
I was just trying to say this /and I'll say it here/:
PLEASE, DON'T BE SO HATEFUL! i KNOW YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED, BUT WE DON'T NEED MORE HATE! THERE IS QUITE ENOUGH IN THIS WORLD ALREADY!!!!
PLEASEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The board is disbaled...GOODBYE FOR GOOD MJHD :(
well there goes all our hard work and discussion :(
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mmh...a bove all, I find very suspicious what Amy wrote on twitter ; and why closing her account? :? :?
Yea, me too.
Something odd is going on... :? I really hope the BAM DAY is getting closer
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Here we go again... Is everyone prepared for the invasion? ;)
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The board is disbaled...GOODBYE FOR GOOD MJHD :(
well there goes all our hard work and discussion :(
That was fast!! Wow. No time to copy posts or anything.....how nice.
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Here we go again... Is everyone prepared for the invasion? ;)
I am!!! Bring it on baby!! :mrgreen:
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yeah but why? why didn't they give time to copy and paste all the discussions? :?
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It sucks that it is already unavailable, I was in the middle of saving some interesting posts by people :evil:
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The board is disbaled...GOODBYE FOR GOOD MJHD :(
well there goes all our hard work and discussion :(
That was fast!! Wow. No time to copy posts or anything.....how nice.
Ya, I was shocked! I read that it's closing and then suddenly it's gone. I wasn't aware of this site so am a newby here but am using the same name I used on the old site.
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I was a member of MJHD in the beggining, and in a certain way it helped me when I was feeling down. Sometimes I wondered who could be behind it, but I never thought about it too much. When MJHD closed for the first time, I moved to MJKIT and didn't post on MJHD so often. I found it odd when MJHD recently changed and all the previous threads got lost and now , shortly after the changes, the forum is closed. It surely sounds strange, doesn't it?
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Just a thougt!
MJHD is strange(in my opinion) for a lot of things..already went down a few times.
Everything is lost there?? i heard from people this is stupid..it can be found!
What if....They all what they wrote down there is needed for a type of Big Brother kind of thing/Movie???
They take it to be sure.. nobody can get it anymore?
Is this stupid thinking??
It was on my mind al along :ugeek:
Greetings Mattie
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yeah but why? why didn't they give time to copy and paste all the discussions? :?
I dont know. It was so sudden too. :?:
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And THANK YOU @THE JACKSONOLOGIST :)
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And THANK YOU @THE JACKSONOLOGIST :)
For?
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I was a member there at the beginning ( Paris was my nick ) but I haven't logged in since September I think ; I moved on here and I stayed cos I like it and cos I was into Souza and Mo's theories , I found them so clever and resourceful I just couldn't stop reading what they wrote! 8-)
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Here we go again... Is everyone prepared for the invasion? ;)
I am!!! Bring it on baby!! :mrgreen:
LOL you're too funny! :mrgreen: Hold on tight, the roller coaster ride continues 8-)
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And THANK YOU @THE JACKSONOLOGIST :)
For?
For the WELCOME ;)
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POOF its GONE http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/)
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Yep, that's what I just saw.
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It's sad that MJHD has closed, but we will be getting new members here, so it's not all bad.
I come here everyday - I need my fix of MJ. It's great that we're all here supporting Michael...
I will start a message thread soon, but I'm a bit busy with an assignment at the moment. I'll try and do it at the weekend.
Keep the faith everybody!!
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Guys, maybe the posts are not lost forever.
IF anyone wants to recover a post, then you should Google it. Like Google the title or some specific words you remember. Then, it should appear with a link to MJHD and you should click on CACHED link beyond the find. That should give you the post from Google's cache.
Normally you should be able to find posts easily during the next weeks.
Hope this helps
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I always thought that MJHD was up and running real fast with so much info within hours of the death . It also had similar info to the derek site, and didn`t they both go down at the same time before?
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THE PADDED CELL HAS BEEN EXPANDED ALL ARE WELCOME I THINK WE ARE GONNA NEED IT, THERE IS ALSO SHOCK THERAPY AVALABILE AND ALCOHOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
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LOL Spakkle :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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THE PADDED CELL HAS BEEN EXPANDED ALL ARE WELCOME I THINK WE ARE GONNA NEED IT, THERE IS ALSO SHOCK THERAPY AVALABILE AND ALCOHOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have my straight jacket on!! Haven't taken it off in 5 months!! They're coming to take me away ha ha
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Good Morning dear family. I just logged in and I was very surprised about MJHD closing down. This new topic is on the 5th page already, so I must read every single post and catch up with what I've missed.
please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
Thank you very much MO.
MO and SOUZA have been holding us together and I'm very grateful for what they've been doing.
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Good Morning dear family. I just logged in and I was very surprised about MJHD closing down. This new topic is on the 5th page already, so I must read every single post and catch up with what I've missed.
please tell me this site wont shut down.
No, WE are NOT closing down!
Thank you very much MO.
MO and SOUZA have been holding us together and I'm very grateful for what they've been doing.
yes thank you Mo and Souza :) huggs
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It's gone now, like somebody else said poef!! it's gone...
Weird, because today, the database should have been back up and running again (according to Silverwolf and Daydream at the cost of 300$, amount they would graciously pay... :) ).
So, the site being down, I go to the chatroom to find out more... Everyone there is asking about what happenend and why and the admin comes in.... talking about the fact that it costs about 20$/month to keep the chat going....?? I made a remark about the fact that in the last couple of days the only signs I saw were $$$ signs and all of a sudden I got banned...hmm :? ;)
Ah well, I'll just have to find another place to settle in... :D
BUt I'm still angry about the way we were treated, like little children... so disrespectfull. But hey, I'll get over it, moving on...lol
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ok, i am definitely NOT surprised! or hurt, since mjkit and this site have been my main ones ever since MJHD's downfall. i'm simply anxious and curious to know what's going on...and i have the same question someone else asked: who bought it?!?! i haven't put all my faith into his december/christmas comeback, but i am beginning to feel like something big is to happen this month!!
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It's gone now, like somebody else said poef!! it's gone...
Weird, because today, the database should have been back up and running again (according to Silverwolf and Daydream at the cost of 300$, amount they would graciously pay... :) ).
So, the site being down, I go to the chatroom to find out more... Everyone there is asking about what happenend and why and the admin comes in.... talking about the fact that it costs about 20$/month to keep the chat going....?? I made a remark about the fact that in the last couple of days the only signs I saw were $$$ signs and all of a sudden I got banned...hmm :? ;)
Ah well, I'll just have to find another place to settle in... :D
BUt I'm still angry about the way we were treated, like little children... so disrespectfull. But hey, I'll get over it, moving on...lol
One thing I can tell those people coming over, the members here are great. Really great. It's like my extended family, we can talk about anything, give comments about anything and be acknowledged, we laugh together, don't mock each other's comments, we apologize even to the slight feeling in case we hurt someone with our posts. And one thing I can tell you, we can talk - really talk to SOUZA and MO.
I guess the RESPECT for each other's thoughts and feelings(even if they are not the same as yours) has always been there.
Again, to my extended family, I'm soooooo proud of you guys.
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Everyone, I just logged onto MJHD and can't believe it's gone. I posted some stuff this morning and when I got back just now I thought I'd check in and now this. I have been posting on here the same length of time that I have been posting on MJHD so it's not too strange. I was just saying on MJHD yesterday that it is a good idea to keep up with both sites as one may miss something. Anyways, all we can do is get on with it and keep our chins up!
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WELL THE NEWS HAS SPREAD I WAS CHECKING THE LKL BLOG AND SOMEONE SAID MJHD &MJKIT ARE GONE :!: :!: ,I HAD ANOTHER PANIC AT MJKIT :o , WHAT IM THINKING NOW IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS THIS FAMILY IS BIGGER AND BETTER THEN EVER,SO MJS ARMY IS READY PS WE HAVE A SECRET WEAPON ,IM GONNA UNLEASH BAXTER :lol: :lol:
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Xsy quote:
The stragenst thing is, this "so-called" admin joined on Mon Jun 01, 2009....could be hacked...or wierd...
Okay, did i miss something or is that date correct? June 1, or did someone meant to put June 25th? Because if June 1 is the correct! Okay! Yeah, what's up for real?! JUNE FIRST!!! his death was June 25th!!! okay this was a typo right!! LOL! :lol:
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Why is it that THIS FORUM MJKIT which has been in existance since the first time the MJHD site shut their forum down has had NONE of the DRAMA and constant "EXPLANATIONS" and losing of entire databases ect ect ect ect . I could go on forever!
I mean its a FORUM for goodness sake, is it that serious? It never stops or ends over there! There is always some crazy drama going on. Again as someone in the IT industry I never bought their ridiculous excuses about how they lost an entire database of research. It is nothing but a lie. I dont believe anything they say over there.
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WELL THE NEWS HAS SPREAD I WAS CHECKING THE LKL BLOG AND SOMEONE SAID MJHD &MJKIT ARE GONE :!: :!: ,I HAD ANOTHER PANIC AT MJKIT :o , WHAT IM THINKING NOW IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS THIS FAMILY IS BIGGER AND BETTER THEN EVER,SO MJS ARMY IS READY PS WE HAVE A SECRET WEAPON ,IM GONNA UNLEASH BAXTER :lol: :lol:
8-) :roll: 8-) :o
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Wow, wow wow. :o :o :roll:
This morning everything was fine on MJHD and now THIS. Can't say I'm surprised. I didn't get to read the thread about MJHD closing down too much because I was about to take a pop quiz in Photoshop class. But I saw a few sentences and thought "Well, either it's a rumor or I guess MJHD's going down again." This was around 2pm CST; I look again around 4:20pm and it's gone with a message about how it got hacked. Man, I anticipated something like this happening again. I have never known what to think about the admin there. Very suspicious crew I tell you (Daydream and Silverwolf and whoever that John guy was). Man, this is making my head spin and I already have a sharp headache. :mrgreen:
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Why is it that THIS FORUM MJKIT which has been in existance since the first time the MJHD site shut their forum down has had NONE of the DRAMA and constant "EXPLANATIONS" and losing of entire databases ect ect ect ect . I could go on forever!
I mean its a FORUM for goodness sake, is it that serious? It never stops or ends over there! There is always some crazy drama going on. Again as someone in the IT industry I never bought their ridiculous excuses about how they lost an entire database of research. It is nothing but a lie. I dont believe anything they say over there.
Can't blame ya there.
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So could the closing of the MJHD forum be a clue or distraction?
Keep your eyes peeled for lots of things.
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THE PADDED CELL HAS BEEN EXPANDED ALL ARE WELCOME I THINK WE ARE GONNA NEED IT, THERE IS ALSO SHOCK THERAPY AVALABILE AND ALCOHOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
WHOO! I second that motion! :D :lol: :mrgreen:
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Well, I tried to get back on THIS site earlier this evening and it said something about the server. I don't know what was going on.
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Well, I tried to get back on THIS site earlier this evening and it said something about the server. I don't know what was going on.
thats what happened to me and i thought i was gonna be homeless :cry:
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I don't try to want to bash anything, but the MJHD forum has always bothered me pretty much from day 1..much more going on that met the eye.
I also noticed that when it went down awhile back, there were some very interesting new posts on the death theory. And again, deja vu, yesterday, there were a couple of topics that were discussing the death theory again..Possibly people getting too close to the truth in some aspects?
Who knows? Just something wasn't right over there for a long time..
Glad Mo & Souza had this still. Thanks gals:-)
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ah yes once again I would like to know the answer to that one I hope mo and souza you are not going anywhere
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can it get any stranger is this the calm before the storm :?: am i getting carried away
Spakkle!!! You and your padded cell!! LOL!! Thats some funny shit!
Save a place for me will ya? I may need a straight jacket too.
I just had a funny thought!! All of a sudden the mental institutions around the world have an alarming increase in patients.....and they say "Oh they're all from those Michael JAckson Hoax sites....ahhh well no wonder!!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LMAO!(http://www.vpsingles.com/pics/straightj.gif) (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-052.GIF) Welcome to our club!(http://i50.tinypic.com/2lmb7e8.jpg)
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MJHD gone again, and need to re-register once the site is back :D
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MJHD gone again, and need to re-register once the site is back :D
dont go back SAVE YOUR SANITY :lol:
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Wow.... I can't believe this...I just came on and this has happened? Everything was fine this morning...I was just thinking earlier today that's its been awhile since we had anything big happen? Well.....Something wrong with this picture....Just out of nowhere gone no warning....amy's twitter..Peter pan is safe...I knew something was weird from day one...who creates a site within minutes of his "death?" That takes time to plan and put together. Somethings a coming folks...can you feel it? :shock:
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Sorry if I'm being dumb here but what's this "Death Theory" that you said people on the other site got close to?
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Well it seems like the new forum was made in vain now...I'm so confused. :?
Will this site still be here? I hope so, because if not...I'll die! lol I'm addicted to this.
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Well it seems like the new forum was made in vain now...I'm so confused. :?
Will this site still be here? I hope so, because if not...I'll die! lol I'm addicted to this.
another one for the cell hop right in your most welcome :lol: :lol:
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I was wondering what was being posted on there just prior to it closing? Was there something new found? Anybody on there just before it was announced that it was closing? Maybe you could fill us in?
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you may want to slap me for saying this (ha ha you can't!) but I think this could be a great sign! something may happen soon, and 'we are together again' isn't that the name of a song..
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Very weird! I was just thinking this morning how MJHD seemed pretty together since it came back up. Guess I was wrong! Well, it was hard keeping up with both sites....I gotta sleep sometime. So, I'm back here again. Hopefully the rest of MJHD will migrate here as well and we will be bigger and stronger with more investigative minds working together to find da troot.
Thanks for being here!!
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WOW!!! I'm kind sad, shocked and excited all at once!!!!
Sad cause it was there day one and a great consolation during such a difficult time
shocked cause it happened outta nowhere
excited cause somethings coming....hopefully good
I can't believe they wouldn't wait until at least the 6 month anniversary before saying goodbye...Seems if you were gonna close that would be a good time to say goodbye...this seems like it was a split second decision...why is the question?
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Well it seems like the new forum was made in vain now...I'm so confused. :?
Will this site still be here? I hope so, because if not...I'll die! lol I'm addicted to this.
another one for the cell hop right in your most welcome :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: 8-)
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Wow.... I can't believe this...I just came on and this has happened? Everything was fine this morning...I was just thinking earlier today that's its been awhile since we had anything big happen? Well.....Something wrong with this picture....Just out of nowhere gone no warning....amy's twitter..Peter pan is safe...I knew something was weird from day one...who creates a site within minutes of his "death?" That takes time to plan and put together. Somethings a coming folks...can you feel it? :shock:
I FEEL THE SAME WAY..WIERD..ESPECIALLY AFTER TODAYS REDIRECT. IM STARTING TO FEEL THAT AMY WAS CASSANDRA. WHAT YOU GUYS THINK?? :mrgreen:
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I can't stop posting LOL :lol: I think this is going to be a looooooong thread!!!!!!
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Wow.... I can't believe this...I just came on and this has happened? Everything was fine this morning...I was just thinking earlier today that's its been awhile since we had anything big happen? Well.....Something wrong with this picture....Just out of nowhere gone no warning....amy's twitter..Peter pan is safe...I knew something was weird from day one...who creates a site within minutes of his "death?" That takes time to plan and put together. Somethings a coming folks...can you feel it? :shock:
I FEEL THE SAME WAY..WIERD..ESPECIALLY AFTER TODAYS REDIRECT. IM STARTING TO FEEL THAT AMY WAS CASSANDRA. WHAT YOU GUYS THINK?? :mrgreen:
I agree!!! She said she has fulfilled what was required of her!!!!! OMG Maybe MJ just told her out of nowhere ...That's it......Close the site.....Your job is done!!!!! I'll take it from here!!!!! That would be awesome!!!!!
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wait. Isnt amy a moderator here too?
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You should take a look at what HESOUTTAMYLIFE topic on Yahoo Answers which can explain what has happened before or/and can be related to what's happening now. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=513 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=513)
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So could the closing of the MJHD forum be a clue or distraction?
Keep your eyes peeled for lots of things.
Yes, clue or distraction, it means something really big !
They told us "we can't bring the database back", people started to be more and more suspicious, we even offer help to work on the database, but then they told us "ok we'll try another time and pay for it" and THE DAY "a guy" (i think there was no one personally...) was supposed to look at it, POOF! The forum SUDDENLY shut down.How convenient is that.... There is definetely someone behind all of this.
(I'm part of the "invasion" too lol sorry for that rush :mrgreen: More we are and stronger we will be :) )
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Wow.... I can't believe this...I just came on and this has happened? Everything was fine this morning...I was just thinking earlier today that's its been awhile since we had anything big happen? Well.....Something wrong with this picture....Just out of nowhere gone no warning....amy's twitter..Peter pan is safe...I knew something was weird from day one...who creates a site within minutes of his "death?" That takes time to plan and put together. Somethings a coming folks...can you feel it? :shock:
I FEEL THE SAME WAY..WIERD..ESPECIALLY AFTER TODAYS REDIRECT. IM STARTING TO FEEL THAT AMY WAS CASSANDRA. WHAT YOU GUYS THINK?? :mrgreen:
I agree!!! She said she has fulfilled what was required of her!!!!! OMG Maybe MJ just told her out of nowhere ...That's it......Close the site.....Your job is done!!!!! I'll take it from here!!!!! That would be awesome!!!!!
I GOT BUTTERFLIES IN MY STOMACH....SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY UP
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I GOT BUTTERFLIES IN MY STOMACH....SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY UP
did anyone take a snap shot of her twitter? omg.. i wish i would have seen it.
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Hey guys. The MJHD chat room is still up. I was only on there for about like 5 min, trying to figure out what was going on, when the MJHD admin banned me, stating that I have been trouble since day one. :D Of course, I am very proud of this, even though I have always been on my best behavior in the chat room. But here is my question: what does it matter whether I am trouble or not if they are going to close the site down anyway? And why is the chat room still up? Hmmmm ;)
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All I can say is....Beautiful :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc)
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Thank you all for welcoming us MJHD refugees here :) And I agree, I think there is really something big going on with this drama, but I'm in for the roller-coaster ride (or looney bin, lol)
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Hey guys. The MJHD chat room is still up. I was only on there for about like 5 min, trying to figure out what was going on, when the MJHD admin banned me, stating that I have been trouble since day one. :D Of course, I am very proud of this, even though I have always been on my best behavior in the chat room. But here is my question: what does it matter whether I am trouble or not if they are going to close the site down anyway? And why is the chat room still up? Hmmmm ;)
OMG Really? How do U get on the chat?
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Hey guys. The MJHD chat room is still up. I was only on there for about like 5 min, trying to figure out what was going on, when the MJHD admin banned me, stating that I have been trouble since day one. :D Of course, I am very proud of this, even though I have always been on my best behavior in the chat room. But here is my question: what does it matter whether I am trouble or not if they are going to close the site down anyway? And why is the chat room still up? Hmmmm ;)
OMG Really? How do U get on the chat?
http://michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.gixawcha ... 1259722195 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.gixawchat.com/index.php?request=index&t=1259722195)
You have to be a member. Maybe you can sign up and find out some stuff. ;)
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I haven't had a chance to read this thread yet, but I wanted to say hi to all my MJHD family and let you know that I'm here. I kept my username/avatar/siggy the same, so people will know me. :)
I had joined on this forum as well a little while back, but only posted a couple times, so I don't think anyone here knows me.
I'm really sad about MJHD closing, but I hope to find a welcoming group here and I look forward to getting to know you all!
~Abbey
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^^^ just tried, it seems to be closed now
and hey Abbey! looks like almost all of us are here now!
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I haven't had a chance to read this thread yet, but I wanted to say hi to all my MJHD family and let you know that I'm here. I kept my username/avatar/siggy the same, so people will know me. :)
I had joined on this forum as well a little while back, but only posted a couple times, so I don't think anyone here knows me.
I'm really sad about MJHD closing, but I hope to find a welcoming group here and I look forward to getting to know you all!
~Abbey
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Just wanting to welcome all MJHD members here!!!
Glad you're with us!
Gonna be one crazy, bumpy, exciting rollercoaster here so HOLD ON TIGHT!!!! :)
Even I myself tried to join MJHD originally, but nothing worked but at least I'm here!! :lol:
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THE PADDED CELL HAS BEEN EXPANDED ALL ARE WELCOME I THINK WE ARE GONNA NEED IT, THERE IS ALSO SHOCK THERAPY AVALABILE AND ALCOHOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Here I come, Spakkle.
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Just wanting to welcome all MJHD members here!!!
Glad you're with us!
Gonna be one crazy, bumpy, exciting rollercoaster here so HOLD ON TIGHT!!!! :)
Even I myself tried to join MJHD originally, but nothing worked but at least I'm here!! :lol:
Thank youuu for welcoming us :) Now we'll be "together as one " ;) hee hee
The forum on MJHD is shut down but the chatroom is still running??! I must be stupid because I don't understand! LOL Something's coming guys ... don't know if it's a good thing or not but...
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oops, sorry for posting twice. The site was being weird on me.
Anybody on there just before it was announced that it was closing?
well, because I have no life, I was on the site reading threads for a couple hours right in the thick of it. I would read an active thread, then refresh active threads, read another one, etc. So I saw the thread about it closing when there were only 2 replies on it, so within a couple minutes of them posting it.
I can't remember any HUGE threads about any theories that were any different than normal. The one thing I remember, because it was the thread I was most interested in, was that there were 2 threads going about the TIAI redirect (Michael's video about police brutality). In both threads, people were saying they didn't get it, they couldn't watch it, it was too sad, too upsetting, do you think there's a reason for the redirect, is there a clue in there, etc. and I remember my jaw dropping and thinking "What do you mean, do you THINK there is a clue?!" and I posted as much, along with a comment with watch the video from 0:11 - 0:18 seconds. I kept hitting refresh because I was really interested to see if people would watch it again and comment on it, let me know if they thought the same thing, etc. so I kept hitting refresh and people were reading the thread but not responding to it. Then at one point when I hit refresh, there was the message that they were closing the site. I thought it was someone playing a joke on us. I really did.
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dammit this is getting irritating :geek:
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oops, sorry for posting twice. The site was being weird on me.
Anybody on there just before it was announced that it was closing?
well, because I have no life, I was on the site reading threads for a couple hours right in the thick of it. I would read an active thread, then refresh active threads, read another one, etc. So I saw the thread about it closing when there were only 2 replies on it, so within a couple minutes of them posting it.
I can't remember any HUGE threads about any theories that were any different than normal. The one thing I remember, because it was the thread I was most interested in, was that there were 2 threads going about the TIAI redirect (Michael's video about police brutality). In both threads, people were saying they didn't get it, they couldn't watch it, it was too sad, too upsetting, do you think there's a reason for the redirect, is there a clue in there, etc. and I remember my jaw dropping and thinking "What do you mean, do you THINK there is a clue?!" and I posted as much, along with a comment with watch the video from 0:11 - 0:18 seconds. I kept hitting refresh because I was really interested to see if people would watch it again and comment on it, let me know if they thought the same thing, etc. so I kept hitting refresh and people were reading the thread but not responding to it. Then at one point when I hit refresh, there was the message that they were closing the site. I thought it was someone playing a joke on us. I really did.
Yes this as well as the thread by Gone To Soon who was from Vegas and said that he knew people that knew what happened to Michael...The thread was called The Background and was in the theories section..
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oops, sorry for posting twice. The site was being weird on me.
Anybody on there just before it was announced that it was closing?
well, because I have no life, I was on the site reading threads for a couple hours right in the thick of it. I would read an active thread, then refresh active threads, read another one, etc. So I saw the thread about it closing when there were only 2 replies on it, so within a couple minutes of them posting it.
I can't remember any HUGE threads about any theories that were any different than normal. The one thing I remember, because it was the thread I was most interested in, was that there were 2 threads going about the TIAI redirect (Michael's video about police brutality). In both threads, people were saying they didn't get it, they couldn't watch it, it was too sad, too upsetting, do you think there's a reason for the redirect, is there a clue in there, etc. and I remember my jaw dropping and thinking "What do you mean, do you THINK there is a clue?!" and I posted as much, along with a comment with watch the video from 0:11 - 0:18 seconds. I kept hitting refresh because I was really interested to see if people would watch it again and comment on it, let me know if they thought the same thing, etc. so I kept hitting refresh and people were reading the thread but not responding to it. Then at one point when I hit refresh, there was the message that they were closing the site. I thought it was someone playing a joke on us. I really did.
Yes this as well as the thread by Gone To Soon who was from Vegas and said that he knew people that knew what happened to Michael...The thread was called The Background and was in the theories section..
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Oh yes the thread by Gone too soon was really interresting... I tried to find it with the google cache but didn't find it ... It was the theory which made a lot of sense to me.
So sad we lost everything... AGAIN
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@mjswendy, yep,thats the thread i keep thinking
about,and i was reading that one when i refreshed
active topics and saw MJHD closing thread...
i really dunno,all this is worrying me? and exciting
me at the same time. lets just pray this is something
good. :( :geek:
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I find it strange that it was Bamsday for MJHD and then this new place started up http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/) as if there is a whole new phase happening! A site for inspiration, clues, and missions for the next 7 weeks! Is it a new time of enlightenment? We all know MJ is alive. What do you think? :?
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I find it strange that it was Bamsday for MJHD and then this new place started up http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/) as if there is a whole new phase happening! A site for inspiration, clues, and missions for the next 7 weeks! Is it a new time of enlightenment? We all know MJ is alive. What do you think? :?
What's that ???
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What's that ???
http://twitter.com/mjawakening (http://twitter.com/mjawakening)
scroll down a bit and I think he explains it a bit. Out of habit, I started looking for the thread that talked all about it. :?
Hopefully you'll get the info from here. I am on my way to bed, barely keeping my eyes open, or I'd explain it more.
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Dang it... the tweets have been protected. This is the first I've heard of this and that whole site seems awfully weird to me. I'll wait patiently for someone to explain.....
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Dang it... the tweets have been protected. This is the first I've heard of this and that whole site seems awfully weird to me. I'll wait patiently for someone to explain.....
I just talked to MJAwakening. He or She claims that they are not MJ. Sorry guys, but I would be weary of anyone on the internet who either claims or acts like they are MJ. Granted, MJAwakening could be lying to me, but better safe then sorry I always say. ;)
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Thanks for explaining what was discussed before the shut down.
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I find it strange that it was Bamsday for MJHD and then this new place started up http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/) as if there is a whole new phase happening! A site for inspiration, clues, and missions for the next 7 weeks! Is it a new time of enlightenment? We all know MJ is alive. What do you think? :?
I wonder what is this about? When did you find it? Have saved the link and will keep an eye on this LOL...Not going to jump to conclusions anymore but it looks like a nice website..
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I just talked to MJAwakening. He or She claims that they are not MJ. Sorry guys, but I would be weary of anyone on the internet who either claims or acts like they are MJ. Granted, MJAwakening could be lying to me, but better safe then sorry I always say
I absolutely agree. I have not jumped on ANY of the twitter/facebook MJ bandwagons, because I just don't think he would do it that way.
I am following this guy on twitter just to see what happens. It is certainly stirring up some interesting conversations.
Also, I wasn't under the impression that he WAS MJ, or even that he was saying he was. Did he imply that somewhere? I must have missed it. It's been a long night! lol.
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Dang it... the tweets have been protected. This is the first I've heard of this and that whole site seems awfully weird to me. I'll wait patiently for someone to explain.....
I just talked to MJAwakening. He or She claims that they are not MJ. Sorry guys, but I would be weary of anyone on the internet who either claims or acts like they are MJ. Granted, MJAwakening could be lying to me, but better safe then sorry I always say. ;)
But what is he/she then? What is it for? What the heck is going on!? lol I'm so confused at this point. I just ... I just need to... Sleep. I need to sleep. That'll take care of it.
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Welcome to all the MJHD members!(http://bestsmileys.com/waving/5.gif)
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I just talked to MJAwakening. He or She claims that they are not MJ. Sorry guys, but I would be weary of anyone on the internet who either claims or acts like they are MJ. Granted, MJAwakening could be lying to me, but better safe then sorry I always say
I absolutely agree. I have not jumped on ANY of the twitter/facebook MJ bandwagons, because I just don't think he would do it that way.
I am following this guy on twitter just to see what happens. It is certainly stirring up some interesting conversations.
Also, I wasn't under the impression that he WAS MJ, or even that he was saying he was. Did he imply that somewhere? I must have missed it. It's been a long night! lol.
Long night? Tell me about it. ;) Well, from some people were saying on here, I assumed that they thought that MJAwakeing was MJ. But I could have read it wrong. Well, I suppose MJ could reveal himself on these types of sites. But the thing is that these people only mess with hoax believers. My belief is that these people would mess will ALL fans of Michael Jackson and not just the hoax believers. Again, everyone, be weary of anyone who claims or acts like Michael Jackson. When he wants to reveal himself, we'll know.
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Dang it... the tweets have been protected. This is the first I've heard of this and that whole site seems awfully weird to me. I'll wait patiently for someone to explain.....
I just talked to MJAwakening. He or She claims that they are not MJ. Sorry guys, but I would be weary of anyone on the internet who either claims or acts like they are MJ. Granted, MJAwakening could be lying to me, but better safe then sorry I always say. ;)
But what is he/she then? What is it for? What the heck is going on!? lol I'm so confused at this point. I just ... I just need to... Sleep. I need to sleep. That'll take care of it.
Well, maybe this person knows something or something. IDK :|
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BCorn :D Hellooo
You are right...
It all remains to be seen...
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Oh maan... I need to sleep too right now ... The shut down totally stressed me and I couldn't sleep all night ... staying in front of my computer ... It's 6.15 am here...
I think we're getting used to all the fakes now...even though it's tiring, yes :? at least, we know how to handle them haha
And thank you all for the warm welcome :D
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BCorn :D Hellooo
You are right...
It all remains to be seen...
Hi Wendy. :D
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MjsWendy wrote:
Oh yes the thread by Gone too soon was really interresting... I tried to find it with the google cache but didn't find it ... It was the theory which made a lot of sense to me.
So sad we lost everything... AGAIN
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Here's the thread from Gone Too Soon
The background
by Gone too soon » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:07 pm
I got some information from friends in Las Vegas that might shed some light on what led up to the tragic incident last June. But I don´t know if Michael is dead or alive....just trying to fit the pieces together.
Two of the Jackson brothers were/are deeply involved in an organisation. Let´s call it "The Group", with the center in Las Vegas. (Hence that the Jackson family has spent much time there).
The Group supplied Michael with bodyguards all through his career.
In the end of the 90´s, Michael was getting short of money due to the molestation accusation, his expensive lifestyle but also his charity work. His reputation was severly damaged and he needed to get back on his feet. That´s when he signed a contract with The Group, letting them take control of his finances. It did not take place in 2009, which media often states. It happened more than ten years ago.
The Group hoped to recoup the money that was invested in Michael´s career from the profit of Invinceable. It did not do as well as expected. Michael refused to tour and then there were more accusations and enormous pay outs to the lawyers. By now, Michael owed The Group A LOT of money.
He had to get his career going again and so the idea with the concerts came up. Michael didn´t know that The Group changed ten concerts to 50. But he had no say in this. They were desperate to get the money back but soon realized Michael would not be capable of pulling it off because of healthproblems.
THEN what happened....I don´t know. My two sources tell me different stories:
They killed him knowing he was worth more dead than alive
They came up with the death hoax. Michael was totally against it, because of his children, but had no choice. (Noone says "no" to The Group). If he was to return, he could blame it on having been kidnapped. So the hoax was staged by his brothers and the people involved in The Group.
So, again, I offer no information about the June-incident, but I think there might be something in this backgroudinfo that could make it easier to understand.
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I am not out to mislead you in any way and I am not making anything up.
I trust my informers thoroughly, especially since I got this info from two different persons, one of them being a friend of mine. Quite a few people in Las Vegas know what is going on.....Michael lived there. Joe Jackson lives there. Just follow the tracks.
There is obviously no way I can prove this and it is not important for me. I just wanted to give you this info and then it is up to each and everyone to believe what they want to believe. But remember, the truth is not always comfortable.
But I think you might agree with me that if this is a hoax, a big organisation is involved because there is NO way you can pull this off with just a handful of friends! NO way! You need a lot of money. A LOT. And you need a way to keep people quiet.
I´d follow in the tracks of Jermaine. And Thome.
I have always admired Michael and he left us far too soon.
You are all doing a great job in here.
And after all, it is all for L.O.V.E. , isn´t it?!
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Thank you so much for your nice posts!
I totally believe in what my friends have told me, although - again - they do not know what has happened during the last two years as they no longer live in Vegas.
So these are only my own thoughts and guesses:
Yes - fear is the only thing that would keep people quiet! Most people could be bought. Name the right sum and people will tell the story. UNLESS you can make people think that Michael might be in danger! Listen to what the family say, how they act. It makes a LOT of sense....
And even if LaToya sometimes seems like an oddball, I believe every word she says when she talks about a conspiracy and that she is worried about being murdered. She knows what "The Group" is capable of.
So where is the profit - or some of it - from the albums and the film really going? Who knows. We don´t have a clue - and neither has the media. REMEMBER - Thome was obviously deeply involved with the film. He is looking after his interests, for after all.....this is what he was waiting for. The debts being paid!!
Noone wants to mess with "The Group". So even if people know a lot of things, they will not come forward, but pretend to happily go along with whatever happens. (Didn´t Karen Faye say that people aware of the truth are scared?!)
So the only thing people can do - out of fear - is to keep sending out clues!
Does it make sense?
Thank you for reading, stay safe and enjoy life.
It is all for L.O.V.E
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All I can say is....Beautiful :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc)
That is beautiful. We had messages to Michael on the other board..too bad we didn't get to make a video for Michael with them :(
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All I can say is....Beautiful :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc)
That is beautiful. We had messages to Michael on the other board..too bad we didn't get to make a video for Michael with them :(
mjforever.always has made two videos with our messages for Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtICqMMWp0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtICqMMWp0U)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PVdPcbvSc)
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I cant beleive its gone again all the research everybody did again in the last couple of weeks all for nothing :( it does not seem fair to me....Why is all this happening :?
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THE PADDED CELL HAS BEEN EXPANDED ALL ARE WELCOME I THINK WE ARE GONNA NEED IT, THERE IS ALSO SHOCK THERAPY AVALABILE AND ALCOHOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Here I come, Spakkle.
Whoa..shock therapy AND alcohol..doesn't get any better than that LOL :mrgreen:
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Oh yes the thread by Gone too soon was really interresting... I tried to find it with the google cache but didn't find it ... It was the theory which made a lot of sense to me.
So sad we lost everything... AGAIN
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Here's the thread from Gone Too Soon
The background
by Gone too soon » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:07 pm
I got some information from friends in Las Vegas that might shed some light on what led up to the tragic incident last June. But I don´t know if Michael is dead or alive....just trying to fit the pieces together.
Two of the Jackson brothers were/are deeply involved in an organisation. Let´s call it "The Group", with the center in Las Vegas. (Hence that the Jackson family has spent much time there).
The Group supplied Michael with bodyguards all through his career.
In the end of the 90´s, Michael was getting short of money due to the molestation accusation, his expensive lifestyle but also his charity work. His reputation was severly damaged and he needed to get back on his feet. That´s when he signed a contract with The Group, letting them take control of his finances. It did not take place in 2009, which media often states. It happened more than ten years ago.
The Group hoped to recoup the money that was invested in Michael´s career from the profit of Invinceable. It did not do as well as expected. Michael refused to tour and then there were more accusations and enormous pay outs to the lawyers. By now, Michael owed The Group A LOT of money.
He had to get his career going again and so the idea with the concerts came up. Michael didn´t know that The Group changed ten concerts to 50. But he had no say in this. They were desperate to get the money back but soon realized Michael would not be capable of pulling it off because of healthproblems.
THEN what happened....I don´t know. My two sources tell me different stories:
They killed him knowing he was worth more dead than alive
They came up with the death hoax. Michael was totally against it, because of his children, but had no choice. (Noone says "no" to The Group). If he was to return, he could blame it on having been kidnapped. So the hoax was staged by his brothers and the people involved in The Group.
So, again, I offer no information about the June-incident, but I think there might be something in this backgroudinfo that could make it easier to understand.
*****
I am not out to mislead you in any way and I am not making anything up.
I trust my informers thoroughly, especially since I got this info from two different persons, one of them being a friend of mine. Quite a few people in Las Vegas know what is going on.....Michael lived there. Joe Jackson lives there. Just follow the tracks.
There is obviously no way I can prove this and it is not important for me. I just wanted to give you this info and then it is up to each and everyone to believe what they want to believe. But remember, the truth is not always comfortable.
But I think you might agree with me that if this is a hoax, a big organisation is involved because there is NO way you can pull this off with just a handful of friends! NO way! You need a lot of money. A LOT. And you need a way to keep people quiet.
I´d follow in the tracks of Jermaine. And Thome.
I have always admired Michael and he left us far too soon.
You are all doing a great job in here.
And after all, it is all for L.O.V.E. , isn´t it?!
************
Thank you so much for your nice posts!
I totally believe in what my friends have told me, although - again - they do not know what has happened during the last two years as they no longer live in Vegas.
So these are only my own thoughts and guesses:
Yes - fear is the only thing that would keep people quiet! Most people could be bought. Name the right sum and people will tell the story. UNLESS you can make people think that Michael might be in danger! Listen to what the family say, how they act. It makes a LOT of sense....
And even if LaToya sometimes seems like an oddball, I believe every word she says when she talks about a conspiracy and that she is worried about being murdered. She knows what "The Group" is capable of.
So where is the profit - or some of it - from the albums and the film really going? Who knows. We don´t have a clue - and neither has the media. REMEMBER - Thome was obviously deeply involved with the film. He is looking after his interests, for after all.....this is what he was waiting for. The debts being paid!!
Noone wants to mess with "The Group". So even if people know a lot of things, they will not come forward, but pretend to happily go along with whatever happens. (Didn´t Karen Faye say that people aware of the truth are scared?!)
So the only thing people can do - out of fear - is to keep sending out clues!
Does it make sense?
Thank you for reading, stay safe and enjoy life.
It is all for L.O.V.E
This scenario scares the crap out of me. What if..OMG this is the first time I've doubted in over a month :( :shock:
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well, good to be here.
mjhd is gone... :?
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Well.. nice to see some familiar faces.
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The stragenst thing is, this "so-called" admin joined on Mon Jun 01, 2009....could be hacked...or wierd...
yes.it's the first thing i noticed when i signed up in ex-new-MJHD..
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You know what everybody??? This whole saga with MJHD has to make you question things..
!. when it reopened on Nov 12, its intention was NOT to continue investigating etc.
2. There were a couple of mysterious members
3. I noticed some were planting information
4. MJHD Founders date was NOT a mistake - I think this was the original creation date of the site....
5. MJHD Founder NEVER came on and introduced themselves so they always remained mysterious...
6. **mj** from LKL who was also a member on new MJHD said his goodbyes to LKL on the 30 Nov...He said he had to go and that it was great and I love you etc etc...He signed his name Michael as always...
I am wondering now that there is more to this story than we are being told...This is NOT about hacking or money or perhaps in fighting....There is something more to this..I was hoping that the site was owned and run from the outset by YOU KNOW WHO in order to watch what we were thinking and feeling about the hoax etc.
I am hoping that the closing of this site will lead to a NEW site which may be a way for Michael to announce himself, after all who would he come out to...Most people on the internet think he is dead, others doubt him and well there are very vicious haters...We hoaxers are a minority and are probably the only few left that actually believe in him and this hoax and have been here for a LONG time and don't seem to be giving up...
It is not a coincidence that the site closed just after the information that Mizbliss posted above here was posted....I am wondering again if we got too close to the truth again...Just like last time... No coincidence...
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absolutely agree. closures MJHD arrives at very precise moment. every time. there is no doubt. and yesterday all our old posts would come back ...
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absolutely agree. closures MJHD arrives at very precise moment. every time. there is no doubt. and yesterday all our old posts would come back ...
Its so AMAZING i will watch this space with enthusiasm to see what happens next..
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its good to see everyone here..so happy. :D
XOXO to everyone.. :)
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It is not a coincidence that the site closed just after the information that Mizbliss posted above here was posted....I am wondering again if we got too close to the truth again...Just like last time... No coincidence...
TO ME..it's like this.
surely
;)
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i thought i was dreaming about yesterday ,it was all to strange :?
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Sad in some way.
I was a member there since 13th of July.
MJHD was the begin of everything - even, if the place unfortunately changed a lot.
What remains to be said?...
R.I.P. MJHD
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You know what everybody??? This whole saga with MJHD has to make you question things..
!. when it reopened on Nov 12, its intention was NOT to continue investigating etc.
2. There were a couple of mysterious members
3. I noticed some were planting information
4. MJHD Founders date was NOT a mistake - I think this was the original creation date of the site....
5. MJHD Founder NEVER came on and introduced themselves so they always remained mysterious...
6. **mj** from LKL who was also a member on new MJHD said his goodbyes to LKL on the 30 Nov...He said he had to go and that it was great and I love you etc etc...He signed his name Michael as always...
I am wondering now that there is more to this story than we are being told...This is NOT about hacking or money or perhaps in fighting....There is something more to this..I was hoping that the site was owned and run from the outset by YOU KNOW WHO in order to watch what we were thinking and feeling about the hoax etc.
I am hoping that the closing of this site will lead to a NEW site which may be a way for Michael to announce himself, after all who would he come out to...Most people on the internet think he is dead, others doubt him and well there are very vicious haters...We hoaxers are a minority and are probably the only few left that actually believe in him and this hoax and have been here for a LONG time and don't seem to be giving up...
It is not a coincidence that the site closed just after the information that Mizbliss posted above here was posted....I am wondering again if we got too close to the truth again...Just like last time... No coincidence...
Hi Wendy
I totally agree - I immediately thought that we may have got too close when the site went down - there has to be something strange intertwined with all the goings-on over there. You Know Who featured in my thoughts too - I mean, how could the Admin. have first joined the site on 1 June 2009, unless they are clairvoyant.
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Sad in some way.
I was a member there since 13th of July.
MJHD was the begin of everything - even, if the place unfortunately changed a lot.
What remains to be said?...
R.I.P. MJHD
Yeah, R.I.P MJHD!
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hi guys..
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hi guys..
Hiya :D
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You know what everybody??? This whole saga with MJHD has to make you question things..
!. when it reopened on Nov 12, its intention was NOT to continue investigating etc.
2. There were a couple of mysterious members
3. I noticed some were planting information
4. MJHD Founders date was NOT a mistake - I think this was the original creation date of the site....
5. MJHD Founder NEVER came on and introduced themselves so they always remained mysterious...
6. **mj** from LKL who was also a member on new MJHD said his goodbyes to LKL on the 30 Nov...He said he had to go and that it was great and I love you etc etc...He signed his name Michael as always...
I am wondering now that there is more to this story than we are being told...This is NOT about hacking or money or perhaps in fighting....There is something more to this..I was hoping that the site was owned and run from the outset by YOU KNOW WHO in order to watch what we were thinking and feeling about the hoax etc.
I am hoping that the closing of this site will lead to a NEW site which may be a way for Michael to announce himself, after all who would he come out to...Most people on the internet think he is dead, others doubt him and well there are very vicious haters...We hoaxers are a minority and are probably the only few left that actually believe in him and this hoax and have been here for a LONG time and don't seem to be giving up...
It is not a coincidence that the site closed just after the information that Mizbliss posted above here was posted....I am wondering again if we got too close to the truth again...Just like last time... No coincidence...
I agree with you completely. Their excuses to close the page seemed too simple, as if they needed an excuse FAST. They're hiding something, the only question is what :?: Why didn't they give us a few days to save all the info that was on the site? Makes you wonder what the heck is going on... :roll:
A question guys, when was it discovered that one of the admins had registered June 1? (or have I completely misunderstood this?) Is it a couple of days ago, or was it known before? It could be a hacker playing tricks on us, but it seems very unlikely.
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I find it odd that they just said like "Oh btw, MJHD is closing in... Five minutes! See ya" .. What's the rush?
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I called bluehost's technical support half expecting them to just hang up on me right away.
So I ask them: why was MJHD shut down, did the owner do it on purpose, was it a hackers attack, were you forced to close it? Why?
The answer is something like: Are you the rightful owner of the site? No? Then I can't give you out ANY information regarding that website.
Come on, he could've easily said: "The owner decided to shut it down", but no, he had to stir it up a bit and make it look even more mysterious than it already is. :mrgreen:
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see everyone talks in riddles,you never get a straight answer bloody hell
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@Tradewind : maybe they couldn't answer you due to some legal stuff because you're not the owner?
Anyway, you're right, it's all very mysterious and it happened all very fast..... :?
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MjsWendy wrote:
Oh yes the thread by Gone too soon was really interresting... I tried to find it with the google cache but didn't find it ... It was the theory which made a lot of sense to me.
So sad we lost everything... AGAIN
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Here's the thread from Gone Too Soon
The background
by Gone too soon » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:07 pm
I got some information from friends in Las Vegas that might shed some light on what led up to the tragic incident last June. But I don´t know if Michael is dead or alive....just trying to fit the pieces together.
Two of the Jackson brothers were/are deeply involved in an organisation. Let´s call it "The Group", with the center in Las Vegas. (Hence that the Jackson family has spent much time there).
The Group supplied Michael with bodyguards all through his career.
In the end of the 90´s, Michael was getting short of money due to the molestation accusation, his expensive lifestyle but also his charity work. His reputation was severly damaged and he needed to get back on his feet. That´s when he signed a contract with The Group, letting them take control of his finances. It did not take place in 2009, which media often states. It happened more than ten years ago.
The Group hoped to recoup the money that was invested in Michael´s career from the profit of Invinceable. It did not do as well as expected. Michael refused to tour and then there were more accusations and enormous pay outs to the lawyers. By now, Michael owed The Group A LOT of money.
He had to get his career going again and so the idea with the concerts came up. Michael didn´t know that The Group changed ten concerts to 50. But he had no say in this. They were desperate to get the money back but soon realized Michael would not be capable of pulling it off because of healthproblems.
THEN what happened....I don´t know. My two sources tell me different stories:
They killed him knowing he was worth more dead than alive
They came up with the death hoax. Michael was totally against it, because of his children, but had no choice. (Noone says "no" to The Group). If he was to return, he could blame it on having been kidnapped. So the hoax was staged by his brothers and the people involved in The Group.
So, again, I offer no information about the June-incident, but I think there might be something in this backgroudinfo that could make it easier to understand.
*****
I am not out to mislead you in any way and I am not making anything up.
I trust my informers thoroughly, especially since I got this info from two different persons, one of them being a friend of mine. Quite a few people in Las Vegas know what is going on.....Michael lived there. Joe Jackson lives there. Just follow the tracks.
There is obviously no way I can prove this and it is not important for me. I just wanted to give you this info and then it is up to each and everyone to believe what they want to believe. But remember, the truth is not always comfortable.
But I think you might agree with me that if this is a hoax, a big organisation is involved because there is NO way you can pull this off with just a handful of friends! NO way! You need a lot of money. A LOT. And you need a way to keep people quiet.
I´d follow in the tracks of Jermaine. And Thome.
I have always admired Michael and he left us far too soon.
You are all doing a great job in here.
And after all, it is all for L.O.V.E. , isn´t it?!
************
Thank you so much for your nice posts!
I totally believe in what my friends have told me, although - again - they do not know what has happened during the last two years as they no longer live in Vegas.
So these are only my own thoughts and guesses:
Yes - fear is the only thing that would keep people quiet! Most people could be bought. Name the right sum and people will tell the story. UNLESS you can make people think that Michael might be in danger! Listen to what the family say, how they act. It makes a LOT of sense....
And even if LaToya sometimes seems like an oddball, I believe every word she says when she talks about a conspiracy and that she is worried about being murdered. She knows what "The Group" is capable of.
So where is the profit - or some of it - from the albums and the film really going? Who knows. We don´t have a clue - and neither has the media. REMEMBER - Thome was obviously deeply involved with the film. He is looking after his interests, for after all.....this is what he was waiting for. The debts being paid!!
Noone wants to mess with "The Group". So even if people know a lot of things, they will not come forward, but pretend to happily go along with whatever happens. (Didn´t Karen Faye say that people aware of the truth are scared?!)
So the only thing people can do - out of fear - is to keep sending out clues!
Does it make sense?
Thank you for reading, stay safe and enjoy life.
It is all for L.O.V.E
Oh.My.God.
This is, for me, the most logical explanation so far since June 25th. This really scares me. Seriously....and after this theory was posted, then MJHD closes down?
If MJ's bros' ARE involved then I REALLY really hope they helped stage the death. I dont wanna think that they were involved in his murder. Thats just totally unbelieveable to me.
I cant even put my feelings into words right now if MJ was forced into this because of the reason stated above. (http://bestsmileys.com/crying/5.gif)
Poor Michael. I wanna give him a big bear hug right now.
If his brothers WERE involved in MJ's murder and Latoya knows something, then I would think she would go to the cops and tell them everything. They can protect her (but we are talking about LAPD here).
But, logic tells me he IS alive based on obvious facts. But now Im not so sure if he will come back or not. This really blows.
Im depressed beyond belief right now.
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
There was an article released last week I believe stating that MJ's debts were paid off...so MAYBE that site wasnt needed anymore....but I agree too with what you said about Amy. I saw her tweet with the numbers and was like WTFhell.
Something is going on and gonna happen or we did put MJ in danger....I cant even think right now...sorry for the babbling
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
WOW! The Peter Pan tweet is very uuum....WOW! Don't know, what to think about that? Should I be happy or not? So is MIchael safe now? Will he come back or not..hm very crazy, also, that she deleted her account after that. Maybe she was scared of the question ppl would ask? Don't know that to think about that at this moment :?
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There's NOTHING to lose hope guys. The end of the game is so soon and that can be the reason why they closed the site. No need for it no more ;)
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i sense a lot of depression today,wheres the faith we know mj is alive cheer up everybody i dont do sad :)
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1. It was closed abruptly because we are close to "BAMsday" and it isn't needed like someone said.
2. It was closed to cause all this confusion and speculation and to distract from the task at hand as always happens when we get too close. Keep the faith :D
Remember the art of the illusion..keep watching one direction while something else is going on in the other..
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There's NOTHING to lose hope guys. The end of the game is so soon and that can be the reason why they closed the site. No need for it no more ;)
I agree! :D 8-)
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1. It was closed abruptly because we are close to "BAMsday" and it isn't needed like someone said.
2. It was closed to cause all this confusion and speculation and to distract from the task at hand as always happens when we get too close. Keep the faith :D
Remember the art of the illusion..keep watching one direction while something else is going on in the other..
Its called Misdirection.......and yes, magicians use it all the time..........so does the snakey Government in this country!!
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A question guys, when was it discovered that one of the admins had registered June 1? (or have I completely misunderstood this?) Is it a couple of days ago, or was it known before? It could be a hacker playing tricks on us, but it seems very unlikely.
Well, I discovered it yesterday right after I read the thread from MJHD Founder. I went to his/her profile and saw it. Then I mentioned it in the thread.
I don't know if others here knew it sooner, but everybody seemed surprised.
We still don't know who the new 'Owner' of MJHD was, do we? :idea:
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
I agree, that the hacking excuse is BS - that's the only excuse they could use to avoid telling the truth.
Something is up, that's for sure. I just hope we find out soon.
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For all the infos given from the other side, it's really appreciated for letting us know what has occured.
[quote="4evermichael71"]1. It was closed abruptly because we are close to "BAMsday" and it isn't needed like someone said.
2. It was closed to cause all this confusion and speculation and to distract from the task at hand as always happens when we get too close. Keep the faith :D
Remember the art of the illusion..keep watching one direction while something else is going on in the other..[/quote]
Thanks 4EVERMICHAEL, I totally agree that it's a distraction.
We should maintain our focus and not let fear/worry occupy our minds/heart. This shut down has happened before and it created chaos and panick among the members. There are a lot of infos/explanations from different people of what has caused the shut down this time and I believe we must keep our heads on our shoulders real firmly wherein whatever comes, we should be sturdy to prove that we can hold on no matter how strong the commotions maybe.
There's NOTHING to lose hope guys. The end of the game is so soon and that can be the reason why they closed the site. No need for it no more ;)
I agree! :D 8-)
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For all the infos given from the other side, it's really appreciated for letting us know what has occured.
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Michael needs us to be strong. We need to show him that we believe in him and that we are "unbreakable".
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I agree with those talking about misdirection. For me that site has always been suspicious, but you do what you have to to play the game, and it seemed like the place to be. I have never believed in an 'AMY'. The site had technical problems at the oddest times, like on the weekends when traffic was pretty low, but when there was high traffic, i.e. the movie opening things seemed to work OK. There was a systematic kicking up of dirt overtime that always got people riled up, not to mention the constant announcements of people leaving. I find it interesting that the founder's very first post was to announce that the site would be closing.(By the way I have asked around and have been told that the founder's site joining date could have been entered in that way despite what the true date was, but I think that the point was that it was deliberate to no doubt cause suspicion, which it did.) Anyway, the journey continues! :D Does this site have a backup forum?
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For all the infos given from the other side, it's really appreciated for letting us know what has occured.
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Michael needs us to be strong. We need to show him that we believe in him and that we are "unbreakable".
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lol @tinker_bell :lol:
This is exactly how I feel after all this mysterious crap..... :?
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I agree with those talking about misdirection. For me that site has always been suspicious, but you do what you have to to play the game, and it seemed like the place to be. I have never believed in an 'AMY'. The site had technical problems at the oddest times, like on the weekends when traffic was pretty low, but when there was high traffic, i.e. the movie opening things seemed to work OK. There was a systematic kicking up of dirt overtime that always got people riled up, not to mention the constant announcements of people leaving. I find it interesting that the founder's very first post was to announce that the site would be closing.(By the way I have asked around and have been told that the founder's site joining date could have been entered in that way despite what the true date was, but I think that the point was that it was deliberate to no doubt cause suspicion, which it did.) Anyway, the journey continues! :D Does this site have a backup forum?
This site IS the back up forum!! Back in july I think, this site was made when the Amy thing first started and the threat of closing MJHD. So this site was made "just in case" there was no more MJHD. MJHD came back up and this site just stayed put.
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I agree with those talking about misdirection. For me that site has always been suspicious, but you do what you have to to play the game, and it seemed like the place to be. I have never believed in an 'AMY'. The site had technical problems at the oddest times, like on the weekends when traffic was pretty low, but when there was high traffic, i.e. the movie opening things seemed to work OK. There was a systematic kicking up of dirt overtime that always got people riled up, not to mention the constant announcements of people leaving. I find it interesting that the founder's very first post was to announce that the site would be closing.(By the way I have asked around and have been told that the founder's site joining date could have been entered in that way despite what the true date was, but I think that the point was that it was deliberate to no doubt cause suspicion, which it did.) Anyway, the journey continues! :D Does this site have a backup forum?
This site IS the back up forum!! Back in july I think, this site was made when the Amy thing first started and the threat of closing MJHD. So this site was made "just in case" there was no more MJHD. MJHD came back up and this site just stayed put.
BLOODY HELL WE ARE IN TROUBLE :lol:
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WOW!!! I'm kind sad, shocked and excited all at once!!!!
Sad cause it was there day one and a great consolation during such a difficult time
shocked cause it happened outta nowhere
excited cause somethings coming....hopefully good
I can't believe they wouldn't wait until at least the 6 month anniversary before saying goodbye...Seems if you were gonna close that would be a good time to say goodbye...this seems like it was a split second decision...why is the question?
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absolutely the same feelings!!!! :o :shock: :? :cry: :) 8-) :lol:
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you know I just thought of something. There have been a few people on youtube who have made some very good hoax vids that all of a sudden stopped making the vids. One was HMATclan and he stated he was contacted by "someone" via webcam and told him the whole story. He said he signed some papers via fax and said this person was someone we all knew, but not MJ himself. HMAT said he was a believer, obviously cus he made hoax videos, but after he was contacted he stopped searching for the truth. If this is true, why were some "supposedly" contacted and some not?
It seems rather odd to me for someone who is a member of the "belivers" to all of a sudden stop looking into the hoax.......What happened with these people?
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Maybe the same reason Geraldo stopped investigating.
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Maybe the same reason Geraldo stopped investigating.
are we next ;)
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I think Geraldo stopped investigating because he found out for sure that MJ is alive.
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I think Geraldo stopped investigating because he found out for sure that MJ is alive.
Yep, all of a sudden one day all his MJ stuff was gone from his site.
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All I can say is....Beautiful :)
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Oh, God - this is soooooooo beautiful!!!! :) thanx to our dedicated friend for making it! thanx, mjforeveralways :D so great for you did that part2 and I saw in it all messages of my friends :D who was too late to join your part 1 vid!
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All of these coincidences seem to be leading to one big bang... but what will it be?! :D
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The same reason they closed it the 1st time, we got way to close to the truth and probably its not the right time (yet)for Mj to come out.....
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I think Geraldo stopped investigating because he found out for sure that MJ is alive.
Yep, all of a sudden one day all his MJ stuff was gone from his site.
I emailed him to ask why but my emails keep being returned.
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
I think the combination of... news that all mj's debts are now paid off, the gone too soon post about the "group" and Amy saying peter pan is safe now... all are clues leading us to think that something has now been settled; mjhd is no longer needed because of that; and now we have to wait and see what happens... hopefullly something good.
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I was thinking about MJHD closing yesterday. I might be going crazy here, but I came up with a theory of what could have happened.
I found Amy's tweet very suspicious and the fact that she deleted her twitter account after she tweeted was also suspicious. The tweet said something like "Pete Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do". Not the exact wording ,but similar. Well, after thinking about it, I'm wondering if someone from Michael's camp or Michael himself contacted her(or whoever owns the site now) and requested the site to be closed? Maybe, just maybe, we got to close to the truth and it was putting Michael in danger? We did suspect that people were watching the site, maybe he didn't want those people to know the information that we found?
It's not normal for a site to close as quick as MJHD did. It leaves people very suspicious as to what's going on. MJHD Founder indicated that we had time, then BAM, the sites GONE!! It leaves you scratching your head saying "WTH"? :? It seems that they were in a panic to close the site, didn't it? I do NOT buy the hacking story, thats pure BS IMHO. Something happened that caused them to abruptly close the site. :?
I think the combination of... news that all mj's debts are now paid off, the gone too soon post about the "group" and Amy saying peter pan is safe now... all are clues leading us to think that something has now been settled; mjhd is no longer needed because of that; and now we have to wait and see what happens... hopefullly something good.
I think I know what "group" she was talking about.
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So do I
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what group?did i miss something?
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what group?did i miss something?
Go to page 8 of this thread and read the post by mizbliss at 12:39.
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it may be true about this group but why is LATOYAH everywhere if she is scared for her life it dont make sense,if they did this to mj ,then wouldnt she keep quite about it cos how can she protect herself
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I don't think it closed because of getting too close to the truth. How can that be? The site had been around since the beginning, and Amy had listed the facts and information that she felt didn't make sense or add up, and for the most part, those inconsistencies are still the main clues in this story.
Of course, other things have been added of import, but I don't think finding certain clues in the This Is It movie, for an example would shake someone up to the point that they were so scared and now petrified of a website finding out..........? What? Again, if they were going to be upset or worried, it seems like to me that they would have been that from the get go.
There are some of us that believe MJ is alive and we believed it before the movie. Some of us believe MJ was under a latex mask of Dr. Murray and he had to get his message out to his fans that he was alive. Then there is Dave-Dave. These are the clues I believe and not the ones from people that say they know MJ or know someone that knows him or that a poster on any blog is MJ.
What I think some people forget to realize is that most of us that visit these type of sites can't PROVE anything. We will never prove it. One day, MJ might be back or one of his relatives will admit that he is alive but living elsewhere etc, but not one of us will prove anything. We eventually felt something wasn't right or didn't feel right, and because of those feelings, we ended up here, but we still haven't proved anything and we never will. We would just be a part of the realization that what we felt in our guts and hearts all along concerning this hoax was right and that he lives.
I don't believe in this "group." Please be leary of people that say they have a friend that told them this or that. None of us know each other. And just because a poster posts here and is familar doesn't mean that what they tell is gospel or what they were told is the truth. Don't believe that story about MJ being murdered or forced into doing this. Anyone can come up with a story of what they say happened. MJ made more than $100 million a year before this turn of events, so don't fall for the okey-doke. He seems to be directing things and not some group.
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Ok assuming there is this "Group" and they're involved, MJ owing them a lot of money .
So this news of MJ clearing out his debts, does it have a deeper meaning?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/110461/Fans-clear-Michael-Jackson-s-debts/
I mean, if the debts are payed, MJ would no longer depend on this assumed "Group"? And he will be free to show himself? Or be free to live on low-profile together with his kids?
Also, in the article above, it says:
Administrators say they hope to resolve all issues “by early in the New Year”
What does "early in the new year" mean? January?
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Now that, reading the thread Gone too soon really gave me the creeps :cry: :cry: if they forced him to do something like that it must have been such an ordeal for him.. leaving the kids back ... God ... if this is the case I hope he'd be able to get out of this mess :cry:
I love you Michael
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Hello to everyone here, mo, souza, all mjhd fams!!
Like everyone i tried to logon at work today, only to see mjdh is closed, and for about 20 mins i didnt know what the bloody hell to do with myself!! :lol:
Then i found this site and i am so happy as i remember souz and mo from orginal mjhd, never was registered but read every day, and nice to see mjhd 2 users online, same names etc...
I think i will stay here as im so confused, esp seeing mjhd 3!!
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don't be so unhappy.... life has just begun
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MJHD Founder:
"I am afraid that I cannot give too much of an explanation right now. There will be one up on the front page within a few days. I am sorry for those who truly care, but this is the way it has to be. I do find it interesting that those who did nothing but bash this site are so angry to see that it is closing.
But the bashing really has nothing to do with why we are closing. There are some things going on, behind the scenes, that you do not see; but it will be explained in a few days. And no, this isn't some conspiracy or anything like that. It is just another website on the internet that has reached the end of its life. So please do not read too much into things.
For those of you still looking for answers, there are many hoax-death forums out there. MJKIT is one of them. Google can give you the others. Unfortunatly for this site, the journey is over. This is not a cruel joke. So you need to get your friends emails, msn addresses, or any other contact information.
Again, only my humble thoughts.
MJHD closed and the domain is on sale. It will not take me by surprise if nobody buys it if this is the end to our MJHD. I'am very sad about all this, but either way if this is all about money or we've reached the point of no return, the end, no more to search...We, the members who gave lots of time searching are the ones who get hurt. But, reading MJHD founder's message above, especially this part: For those of you still looking for answers, there are many hoax-death forums out there. MJKIT is one of them. Google can give you the others. Unfortunatly for this site, the journey is over. This is not a cruel joke. So you need to get your friends emails, msn addresses, or any other contact information.
Oh, well, to Mo and Souza: MJHD founder is sending us here, to MJKIT ;)
I'll keep looking how this situation moves, if MJHD starts again from cero or not, but it is good that MJHD family can get together here.
Thank you MO and Souza :D
Thank you for reading and I wish you all the best. ;)
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There's NOTHING to lose hope guys. The end of the game is so soon and that can be the reason why they closed the site. No need for it no more ;)
I agree! :D 8-)
I hope so much that you're right! :?
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Ive been following everything related to discussions of this hoax and the post made by GONE TOO SOON about 'the group' really freaks me out and when people start doubting, I start doubting. I believe his/hers sources are reliable. Its just sad though.
About MJHD, I was gullible when registering and I never saw the things you guys saw, well I was only there for a week so I didnt have enough time to see what you saw but after having read some about what you guys say about MJHD, I agree there is something very wrong with this site and I still cant put my finger on it. I cant decide whether its MJ's people behind it, someone planting evidence, someone planting fake theories into our heads, someone being threatened because we know too much, someone who wants us not to know too much, someone who is paid to keep quiet. Alot of questions, yes.
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I think I know what"group" she's referring too; IF someone hurt my baby my vengeance will be terrible and merciless :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
watch out!!! :evil:
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I heard about Geraldos investigation and how he removed it all in a split second. Is it true that he wrote on his website that he felt he had been punk'd? I wonder who he was referring to.. MJ ofcourse.
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I think I know what"group" she's referring too; IF someone hurt my baby my vengeance will be terrible and merciless :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
watch out!!! :evil:
why does everyone keep calling it "the group".
are we not allowed to say the name?
alright...idk if i can say this but i think the group Gone Too Soon is speaking of is the Illuminati. i'm right, right?
And i heard about the illuminati conspiracy. I believe they're is really a "Group". I see the sings of them everyday in music videos. a friend of mine believes Mike was killed by them. We always end up arguing about it. never believed they had anything to do with the hoax but after reading the post by GTS, i feel so...i can't even explain. I feel like crying.
What if they did force him into this? What if the brothers are forcing him. I was thinking about it the entire day and it just made me feel so depressed.
She's right. If you wanted to pull this off you'd need a LOT of help. Not just a few friends.
:cry: :? :o :( :x !!
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I think I know what"group" she's referring too; IF someone hurt my baby my vengeance will be terrible and merciless :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
watch out!!! :evil:
why does everyone keep calling it "the group".
are we not allowed to say the name?
alright...idk if i can say this but i think the group Gone Too Soon is speaking of is the Illuminati. i'm right, right?
And i heard about the illuminati conspiracy. I believe they're is really a "Group". I see the sings of them everyday in music videos. a friend of mine believes Mike was killed by them. We always end up arguing about it. never believed they had anything to do with the hoax but after reading the post by GTS, i feel so...i can't even explain. I feel like crying.
What if they did force him into this? What if the brothers are forcing him. I was thinking about it the entire day and it just made me feel so depressed.
She's right. If you wanted to pull this off you'd need a LOT of help. Not just a few friends.
:cry: :? :o :( :x !!
I think the group is The Nation of Islam...It was Jermaine who introduced them to Michael and Grace the nanny is heavily involved with them as well...They were paying his rent and providing him with security etc....
The recordings of Michael calling Deiter Weissner at 3 and 4 am are really heartbreaking and really tie in with Gone Too Soon's post about what has happened to Michael.
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I think I know what"group" she's referring too; IF someone hurt my baby my vengeance will be terrible and merciless :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
watch out!!! :evil:
why does everyone keep calling it "the group".
are we not allowed to say the name?
alright...idk if i can say this but i think the group Gone Too Soon is speaking of is the Illuminati. i'm right, right?
And i heard about the illuminati conspiracy. I believe they're is really a "Group". I see the sings of them everyday in music videos. a friend of mine believes Mike was killed by them. We always end up arguing about it. never believed they had anything to do with the hoax but after reading the post by GTS, i feel so...i can't even explain. I feel like crying.
What if they did force him into this? What if the brothers are forcing him. I was thinking about it the entire day and it just made me feel so depressed.
She's right. If you wanted to pull this off you'd need a LOT of help. Not just a few friends.
:cry: :? :o :( :x !!
I think the group is The Nation of Islam...It was Jermaine who introduced them to Michael and Grace the nanny is heavily involved with them as well...They were paying his rent and providing him with security etc....
The recordings of Michael calling Deiter Weissner at 3 and 4 am are really heartbreaking and really tie in with Gone Too Soon's post about what has happened to Michael.
I want to ask for a link where i can listen to the recordings...
but i'm scared! but link, please?
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you know I just thought of something. There have been a few people on youtube who have made some very good hoax vids that all of a sudden stopped making the vids. One was HMATclan and he stated he was contacted by "someone" via webcam and told him the whole story. He said he signed some papers via fax and said this person was someone we all knew, but not MJ himself. HMAT said he was a believer, obviously cus he made hoax videos, but after he was contacted he stopped searching for the truth. If this is true, why were some "supposedly" contacted and some not?
It seems rather odd to me for someone who is a member of the "belivers" to all of a sudden stop looking into the hoax.......What happened with these people?
Spungoo also did alot of hoax videos. She was on another forum with me. She posted one day that she" knows what happened and that she knows he's dead", and that we should all get on with our lives ( not exact, but...) and that was it. She was on twitter for awhile and then deleted her account. WTH are they finding out? :?
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I don't wanna freak you out, but I agree with MjsWendy...
I think there's a lot we don't know... and not good things... It may be worse than we could imagine .. (sorry, that's how I feel lately... :oops: :( ) These days I've kept doubting ...
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:? So if two brothers are involved :? , we know they have to love him. If this "group" is in anyway "physically harming " him, and or making his life miserable, dont you think we would be able to recognize a little remorse and or worry from the brothers? They seem to be awfully happy, to have atheir brother being hurt :?
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I don't wanna freak you out, but I agree with MjsWendy...
I think there's a lot we don't know... and not good things... It may be worse than we could imagine .. (sorry, that's how I feel lately... :oops: :( ) These days I've kept doubting ...
same here, odreyo. i know how you feel. i've been doubting everything these days. i keep thinking that everyone's going "yes, he faked his death to get back at the media" or "to finally have a normal life". But what if its none of that?
And its true. A lot of the people who made hoax videos just deleted everything off there channel. and same with geraldo. everything's gone.
why? what made them do that? why would they just stop investigating so suddenly. Personally, i think maybe they got scared into it. Didn't HMATclan say he signed papers? So maybe someone or some people felt he was getting to close and they wanted him to stop.
Idk guys. Maybe i'm just going crazy. I'm freaking myself out a bit. :S
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:? So if two brothers are involved :? , we know they have to love him. If this "group" is in anyway "physically harming " him, and or making his life miserable, dont you think we would be able to recognize a little remorse and or worry from the brothers? They seem to be awfully happy, to have atheir brother being hurt :?
see, that's what confuses me. The brothers seem fine. Janet is smiling like a maniac in her interview. Joe is doing great considering he just lost his son.
but what about LaToya? She keeps saying its a conspiracy in the barbara walters interview.
i know, i know. she's crazy. but don't judge a book by its cover.
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don't judge a book by its cover
I think the same as you. And I'm confused for the same reason as well. Or maybe that's the plan : different behaviors, to confuse people, and gain time( or maybe for ever IF michael won't come back)
Regarding the Nation of Islam, I'm always scared to say too much .. Difficult to tell how I feel about it then ... And I think it's the reason why I'm afraid of jeopardizing Michael's safety. Because, we don't know anything about the situation before June 25th.
However, I think, and I really hope that Michael is safe...
I don't know if I explained it very well but I did the best I could lol
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What's the bottom line of all these? I'm not sure :( if I want to know.......
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don't judge a book by its cover
I think the same as you. And I'm confused for the same reason as well. Or maybe that's the plan : different behaviors, to confuse people, and gain time( or maybe for ever IF michael won't come back)
Regarding the Nation of Islam, I'm always scared to say too much .. Difficult to tell how I feel about it then ... And I think it's the reason why I'm afraid of jeopardizing Michael's safety. Because, we don't know anything about the situation before June 25th.
However, I think, and I really hope that Michael is safe...
I don't know if I explained it very well but I did the best I could lol
I was researching the Nation of Islam just now.
What they're about and everything.
But you're right. We don't know about his situation before June 25. I heard those recordings however, on youtube. It broke my heart. He said he was being stalked. Like, he sounded really scared and lost.
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don't judge a book by its cover
I think the same as you. And I'm confused for the same reason as well. Or maybe that's the plan : different behaviors, to confuse people, and gain time( or maybe for ever IF michael won't come back)
Regarding the Nation of Islam, I'm always scared to say too much .. Difficult to tell how I feel about it then ... And I think it's the reason why I'm afraid of jeopardizing Michael's safety. Because, we don't know anything about the situation before June 25th.
However, I think, and I really hope that Michael is safe...
I don't know if I explained it very well but I did the best I could lol
I was researching the Nation of Islam just now.
What they're about and everything.
But you're right. We don't know about his situation before June 25. I heard those recordings however, on youtube. It broke my heart. He said he was being stalked. Like, he sounded really scared and lost.
Yes, all this sounds as if it could be the case, however, I feel he got away in time. We may never see him again, but at least we may find out if he is still in the land of the living somewhere (I really feel he is still alive).
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If two brothers are connected to this "group", no matter what, they are not going to want any harm to come to Michael. He IS their brother and regardless of their idiotic behavior, i know they love him. So if any harm was being done to him, they nor Janet would be happy and smiling. JMO :?
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Yes I agree with all of you...
What's the bottom line of all these? I'm not sure :( if I want to know.......
My point is that his life may have been in danger , and, his family helped him, i don't doubt that at all . He may have had debt to this group and his life, or/and his family was threathened and had to get away... or maybe it was a deal between the group and Michael, I don't know, i'm just guessing according to the feelings I have ... :oops:
So IF he comes back, he would come back when he could, for example when he has no debts anymore... This is the theory I believe ...
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Perhaps our investigation is dangerous for Michael.
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Perhaps our investigation is dangerous for Michael.
I don't know ...that's "Tammy Jackson" made me notice ... I don't know . I really don't... I'm addicted to the investigation going on , I want to know the truth as all of you, but at the same time I'm afraid for Michael too... We all want him to be good and safe of course... Lately I'm in a real period of doubts :? (Don't know if it's how we say it in english ...)
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Yes I agree with all of you...
What's the bottom line of all these? I'm not sure :( if I want to know.......
My point is that his life may have been in danger , and, his family helped him, i don't doubt that at all . He may have had debt to this group and his life, or/and his family was threathened and had to get away... or maybe it was a deal between the group and Michael, I don't know, i'm just guessing according to the feelings I have ... :oops:
So IF he comes back, he would come back when he could, for example when he has no debts anymore... This is the theory I believe ...
Thank you. This might be one of the possibilities of what had really took place. Many of those who actually believe that MJ is gone (which we hope otherwise) has the same theory, that MJ might have been in danger :cry:
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You know what? if two of his brothers pushed him in this situation I don't think they love him at all. How could you put your brother in a dangerous situation like that? You just can't . I don't trust Jermaine AT ALL I'm sure he knows a lot of this ***t and he is involved in it as well. I pray to God they didn't hurt him ; in the call he made to Dieter Weisner he was really, really, scared .. and tired , and it was just so sad ...
I hope he found a way to sort things out by faking his death, if they hurt him, I repeat it , my revenge will be merciless :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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WHERE IS THE MODS....HELP GET THIS *&?%$??& OUT OF HERE
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means the reveal is coming!! think about it the most famous site for hoax stuff most know about even thisisalsoit.com and now it closes this site is better for me and is known about too by thisisalsoit.com which is great as maybe mj can see wot us the fans are saying!! reveal soon i think why else it gone??!! :lol: ;) :o :D
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Seriously-crawl back into the gutter where you came from.
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In the first 2 months I think, MJHD forum was running ok. Then, the shown up of the trolls, the several fights between Amy and the old mods and so many issues, made the forum impossible to be visited. I am glad the forum has been closed. This one is more friendly.
PS: Amy is such a Drama Queen. She put all the trolls as mods and she was lying all the damn time. Pathetic.
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Maybe we got too close to the truth on MJHD... In spite of all the mess on MJHD I still kind of miss it. I spent my whole summer holiday reading and investigating. I loved sharing my emotions with other memebers, it made me smile whenever I felt down, it gave me soo much support. I hope it opens once again. But this forum is nice too:)
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Michael may have been trouble with The Nation of Islam so perhaps struck a deal with them...In order for them to recoup the money that he owed them, the plan would be for Michael to "die"...Michael was worth more dead than alive we are meant to believe....so the perfect plan was hatched..Michael keeps his life and perhaps now is able to live in peace and NOI are able to recover what is owed to them...Everybody is happy (well that is the aim I suppose)...
When MJHD opened for the 3rd time...Investigating was not its purpose...I think we were all lured there under false pretenses. For what reason I don't know, maybe we were being watched....to see for reactions and thoughts about what has happened etc....This happens at the same time that Applehead Joe is also TESTING THE WATERS....for a reveal and to perhaps decide when and where that reveal could be..
There are no coincidences with this saga...
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Michael may have been trouble with The Nation of Islam so perhaps struck a deal with them...In order for them to recoup the money that he owed them, the plan would be for Michael to "die"...Michael was worth more dead than alive we are meant to believe....so the perfect plan was hatched..Michael keeps his life and perhaps now is able to live in peace and NOI are able to recover what is owed to them...Everybody is happy (well that is the aim I suppose)...
When MJHD opened for the 3rd time...Investigating was not its purpose...I think we were all lured there under false pretenses. For what reason I don't know, maybe we were being watched....to see for reactions and thoughts about what has happened etc....This happens at the same time that Applehead Joe is also TESTING THE WATERS....for a reveal and to perhaps decide when and where that reveal could be..
There are no coincidences with this saga...
That's what I'm thinking too..
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Has anybody read this blog http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/? Basically its all about the possible conspiracy behind the closing of MJHD. Theres a few home truths about Amy. Apparently the site may have been created on the 23rd of June???!??
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Has anybody read this blog http://mjhdconspiracy.blogspot.com/? Basically its all about the possible conspiracy behind the closing of MJHD. Theres a few home truths about Amy. Apparently the site may have been created on the 23rd of June???!??
Yes I have read that and it is very telling if it is true of course..
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IMAGINE THIS
MJHD was created by Michael and also monitored by him or someone close to him..No one knows who Amy is...Amy is Michael..The purpose of this site is to monitor general opinion of Michael and his fake death etc and also for information gathering in order to create a script for his new movie...The "lost" database becomes the research for the script, plot and complete storyline..The characters in the movie are US...
I am hoping to be portrayed favorably or else I'll sue LOL...I also would like Angelina Jollie to play my character...Thank you very much...
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Going with the thought that MJHD was operated & formed by Michael, it might explain some of the forbidden topics. I think at 50 years old he might be a little embarrassed about the gold pants frenzy, didn't want his children discussed, and didn't want the illuminati discussed openly as they might be involved in some manner, although I don't think they control him--I think he is planning this death hoax voluntarily with lots of paid help. I like the idea that MJHD content might be used in a future movie, book, etc. Most of the world is oblivious to the "monumental" stuff we've been doing these 5 months. Similar to a verse in Genesis, "We thought it was meant for evil, but he meant it for good."
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ROFLMAO: They now put a price tag on the 'old forum'. It should be worth something close to $7500,-.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/home/index.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/home/index.html)
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ROFLMAO: They now put a price tag on the 'old forum'. It should be worth something close to $7500,-.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/home/index.html (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/home/index.html)
What a joke...What is it worth WITHOUT the database...NOTHING
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I was doing some research on the MJHD domain on one of those site where you tells you info about when the domain was created etc. Anyway on http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ (http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/) there's a snapshop of what used to homepage used to look like in the early days. Why on earth has she referred to Michael as "Jacko" . A true fan would know not to refer to him in this way! It's horrible and derogatory why would AMY refer to him in this way - i thought she was a fan
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I was doing some research on the MJHD domain on one of those site where you tells you info about when the domain was created etc. Anyway on http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ (http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/) there's a snapshop of what used to homepage used to look like in the early days. Why on earth has she referred to Michael as "Jacko" . A true fan would know not to refer to him in this way! It's horrible and derogatory why would AMY refer to him in this way - i thought she was a fan
This is purely my speculation but is it possible that the person who created the website was intially a MJ-hater and wanted to mock fans who think he is still alive? Just asking.
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:twisted: It would be very diabolical :twisted:
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I was doing some research on the MJHD domain on one of those site where you tells you info about when the domain was created etc. Anyway on http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ (http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/) there's a snapshop of what used to homepage used to look like in the early days. Why on earth has she referred to Michael as "Jacko" . A true fan would know not to refer to him in this way! It's horrible and derogatory why would AMY refer to him in this way - i thought she was a fan
This is purely my speculation but is it possible that the person who created the website was intially a MJ-hater and wanted to mock fans who think he is still alive? Just asking.
I don't think so.
If they were an MJ Hater, why would they waste so much time and effort making an entire site for the Hoax?
I don't think an MJ Hater would care THAT much about trying to mock fans.
They'd take they easy route. Make a YouTube account saying "I'm Michael Jackson! I'm here" or something. Or even twitter. (i've seen a ton of those already)
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This is not so important to me.
But these are some traces of the site left as of mid June - the curve goes down indicating <more than one site per visit> lookups were more frequent than single page lookups with time.
I am not in the position to judge whether this means that the site was set up mid June or whether there are errors in Alexa s database.
Maybe there s a web crack here to help?
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This is not so important to me.
But these are some traces of the site left as of mid June - the curve goes down indicating <more than one site per visit> lookups were more frequent than single page lookups with time.
I am not in the position to judge whether this means that the site was set up mid June or whether there are errors in Alexa s database.
Maybe there s a web crack here to help?
Im sorry, I dont understand the screenshot you just posted... DO I SEE ACTIVITY FROM MAY 2009? Why else would it be listed on the protocol? When exactly was this domain purchased? I think its crutual to find out whether or not this domain was purchased BEFORE June 25th or not. If this was not indeed purchased in MAY 2009... Why is the month even listed on the site of activity?
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Just found this blog posted on the mjhd twitter page:
link to blog: http://mjhdthetruthbehindthelies.blogspot.com/ (http://mjhdthetruthbehindthelies.blogspot.com/)
No more deception
Hello. Some of you may be wondering if I am, in fact, the same SilverWolf from MJHD. The answer is yes. I am THE silver wolf who was a mod, and later admin, of michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com. I have decided that I no longer wish to cover a lie that has, for the most part, been discovered anyway.
Everyone is speculating about John, and how MJHD came crashing down. Some have said that John is Amy herself. Well, the truth is that yes, Amy was John. However, her reasons behind creating John were far from simply to be hurtful--because that was not the intent.
Amy was distrought the night that John was created. She was ready to leave MJHD. DayDream, myself, and a couple of other moderators just so happened to be online chatting with her that night. We begged Amy to stay, and not close down MJHD. She was so sick and tired of all the hate, of all the slander and the accusations against her. Also, at the time, her personal information had just been released on someone's twitter. So, she was ready to quit right then and there.
So we had a chat with Amy. She finally listened to our pleas to stay only after a plan was formulated on how she could 'leave' but still keep MJHD up. This was not even Amy's idea in the first place--one of the mods came up with it, and I think it was a great idea. In order to get out of the eye of Conspiracy blogger, as well as other prying individuals, it was decided that she would say she gave the site over to a man named John. This way, she would be out of the spotlight, and MJHD could go on. It was supposed to be a win-win situation. This is why John was created.
Now, as we all know, most of the mods were kept out of "the loop" as they have said. Only 5 mods even knew that Amy was still involved with MJHD. The people who knew were the ones that happened to be chatting with Amy at the time. Remember that this is just after a post from our mod forum ended up on someone elses' forum. Amy did not know who to trust, so she decided that only the people in that chat at the time would ever know. So to all the mods that felt "left out" know that it could have been you in the know, had you happened to have been there at the time. It had nothing to do with anyone being more "pro-member" than anyone else.
As for the site going down, it was stated that John did this. This is sort of true, when you realize that Amy is John. However, it was not on purpose. The day it went down, Amy was having serious troubles fixing the forums (we were using WP at the time). The mod tools quit working, and she tried to fix it. This made things even worse, so she thought she would fix it by uninstalling WP completely, then reinstalling it. She made a backup database, and did this. However, things still kept going wrong. As we all know, the database didn't work. So things went from bad to worse. With her having accidentally brought MJHD down, she didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Amy was going to walk. She was planing on leaving, and she was planing on keeping the site closed. She felt that it was time. DayDream and myself didn't want to see this happen (nor did the members or other mods). So we offered to host the website ourselves, while all of the mods would become admins and run MJHD as a team--each admin with equal say in what goes on. Every single moderator of MJHD was given the oportunity to be an administrator. They all were more then aware that we were going to be taking over. Gymebunny, Wozniack, Henda11, Quesarasara, Rhianon, Myself, DayDream, klhayes, morefiah, starfox, purple7, goldielocks (aka biscuit), speed....every single one of us. We all decided that MJHD would be ran as a team, instead of one single person having full power. We thought it would benefit MJHD and benefit the members this way.
There were some mods we did not hear back from or were not active to begin with. Henda and speed were among them. They never became official admins (on the forum) since they did not keep in contact. We later heard from Henda via Wozniack, who we gave our email too so she could contact Henda. We didn't hear from Gymbunny right away either. When we did, I asked her specifically if she wanted to be a global mod, or an admin. She chose to be a global moderator, same as Woz. BOTH of them, at this time, knew that John was ficticious. In fact, they knew well before the new forums were put up--we ALL did by this time. Amy explained to us just before we took over. The two exceptions are Henda and Speed--they were not there, and we had to tell Speed afterword--henda, we still haven't heard from.
Which brings us back to John. Remember about 5 of us knew from the start John was Amy. We kept this a secret for a few reasons. For one, we talked Amy into this course of action, thinking it would help. For two, she was a friend; and friends stand up for one another--at least, that is how things are SUPPOSED to be. And finally, she deserved to be able to admin MJHD anonymously. It is every admins RIGHT to remain anonymous. And, having no idea who to trust, would you want to let just anyone know that info? Who was there knew, and it is as simple as that. The rest were kept in the dark about John untill MJHD was placed in our hands. At that point, every mod was told, including those who are now pretending they were never told.
As for us "taking over" the site: Day and I offered to host the site, the other mods agreed to be admins. We did this to try and keep MJHD alive--something that, obviously, failed miserably. We thought we could keep MJHD up for the members, but things did not work out. DayDream, myself, and all the other admins always cared for the members--I don't care what anyone else says about us; we did. Never let anyone tell you different. If we didn't, why would we have even wanted to take over? Just to see it crash a month later? It would have been easier to just walk away.
THIS is the true story. I am sorry Amy, if you read this and grow angry at me for revealing the truth. Honestly, I can't lie anymore. I'm sorry we talked you into this idea in the first place--not that you should have had to resort to such a scheme. It is BS! But you did, and we helped you do what we all thought was right. So, if exposing the truth makes you dislike us...well, again we cannot apologize enough; but it has to be done. For everyone. For me, for you, for day, for the other admins--but most importantly, for the members who continue to speculate and think that MJ or his family is behind the site. They DESERVE to know.
***A note to Wozniack and Gymbunny***
I don't know why you are ignoring my emails, and spreading lies. You know damn well I never cussed out any members of MJHD...and I never said you were Mo or Souza. I said why don't you go hang out with them--those were my EXACT words; you know it too. Why are you guys doing this? Why act like you knew nothing when you knew everything! Gymbunny at least, had the curtesy to cut all ties with me a long time ago.
You, Woz...you were even worse because you kept talking to me...pretended to be my friend. You wait untill just recently to stab me in the back, instead of coming out and saying how you felt about me. That is the worst. I trusted you, we all did. And you spread lies and hate about us? You knew damn well what was going on. The ONLY thing you and gym didn't know was that MJHD really was going down, because we didn't even know that. We are not psychics! We can't see months into the future! How were we supposed to know that MJHD was on it's last legs when we took over? We couldn't know that and didn't. But at least we tried; for the members.
It's painful to be slandered by anyone...but it hurts even more when that person was supposedly a friend.
Anyway, now everyone knows the truth. Feel free to post questions or comments; we will moderate them for language etc. but otherwise welcome them. And yes, conspiracy, that means you too.
Forever for the TRUTH,
~SilverWolf~
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Monday, December 7, 2009
The Truth...Continued
First, SW, you forgot to mention Smooth in your post While he didn't know in the beginning, he was made aware of John when everybody else was, and he actually suspected as much before he was told.
Anyway, I think that the truth has to be told because for some reason people seem to think that MJHD is connected to MJ, just like you said. I read it all the time, and I hope that members will realize that it was a website/forum and nothing more.
What I want to address is why I no longer wanted to host the site, which led to MJHD going down for the final time. I stated this before, and it was the truth. I was hacked, and I'm not the only one who was. Counting myself, three admins were hacked. Aside from the disgusting things that conspiracy said about me (just like he/she does about most of the people spoken of), getting hacked and banned from my own website/webhost was it for me! The site did not close because anybody was getting too close to the truth or anything like that. The simple fact is, I do not want to be hacked into, and being associated with MJHD cost me too much in the end. And for what??
People keep insisting that I'm lying about this, so I don't know...maybe there's a way I can get proof. I don't know how or what I could do to make you believe that I was hacked. My computer was pining MJHD over 1000 times per minute and so my webhost had no choice but to ban me. I had no access to even log in to my webhost, and I couldn't keep allowing that to go on. In addition, the focus of MJHD was no longer where it should be. It became more about drama than finding out what happened to MJ. Everything was falling apart--a sinking ship. You could patch the holes, but water kept seeping in. There was nothing that could be done. People wanted the database, which we tried our hardest to fix. Nothing was good enough though, and after being hacked...what was the point anymore? It's not as if members where that happy to begin with.
My main concern right now is this: When I surf to other MJ hoax sites I see people clinging to the hope that somehow MJHD is part of his hoax death. You have to think about things that have happened, and you will clearly see that MJ would NOT be a part of all this. Conspiracy played a big role in all of this, whether they choose to see that or not. Intentional or not, they are a big reason that Amy decided to quit in the first place, and I can't say I blame her for that at all. He/She almost made me quit. It's difficult to realize how that would effect you until you're the target of a blog like that. And make no mistakes about the intention of the blog. Conspiracy is NOT trying to help the members by showing truth. He or she...it..whatever could do that without being so vulgar and hurtful. It's not about truth, it's about HATE. Pure and simple! Most can see that, I think.
OH one question I see a lot too, is that when the new site went up the Founder for the new phpbb fourm showed up as being created June 1. This is impossible and it was some kind of error or something. I really have NO idea how that happened. The Founder account was used by myself and SW to create the forums. This account was inactive because we felt that since we admins were in this as a team, it was unfair for two of us to show as founder. That is why we created our own seperate accounts and the Founder account was inactive. It was only used when we needed it to make changes to the admin group. As you know, the final post came from that account. I do not know why it was June 1. This date has left people again speculating that there has to be some connection to MJ and that is NOT the truth. I cannot stress that enough. There is nothing about MJHD that is connected to MJ in any other way aside from people investigating his death, like many other forums now.
OH, something I read on cospiracy's blog. The fact that MJHD had an emotional support forum. While conspiracy is turning this into something bad..it was not. kl came up with that idea because of how many members were in emotional distress. That wasn't even Amy's thought. It was a great idea though, and we all liked it and agreed that it was needed.
The bottom line is that we (mods/admins) were trying to help when we took over the site. Not for ourselves, but for the members. The site was going to be closed the day when John was created. Sadly, Amy was just sick of it all. I don't blame her, as I was only there a month and I see a glimpse of the hell she went through for five months. In all honesty, I think it's pretty messed up that she even had to make the decision to go this route..the whole John thing. She should never have had to worry that much. We should never have suggested and pushed her into it. When she said she needed to go, we should have respected that. In hindsight, I regret not just backing her up when she was ready and wanted to leave. I'm sorry, Amy. If you ever read this..I am very sorry.
Finally, for some of the mods that choose to participate in the lies and hate, you need to prove what you're saying. Just as SW said, you all knew exactly what was going on. Maybe not at the beginning, but before the forums went up, YOU KNEW and you now are throwing us under the bus to make yourselves look better. You do know that if you continue to keep up your lies, SW and I are prepared to provide evidence and proof that you were in fact in the MOD group, had access to all the emails, and could have at any time contacted us if you wanted to. I do not wish to go this far, but I'm sick and tired of all of this. I only ask that you quit pretending that there were only a couple of you who cared..when in fact we all did. There was no pro-member mods..all of us were pro-member. The fact is, you could've come forward with the truth about the John/Amy situation at any point before now. So, don't know what your game is, but it's not working and I will no longer support ANY lies (even those that were told with good intentions).
Conspiracy, a note for you should you ever read this: If you truly cared about the members as you claim, instead of belittling them all the time, and putting them down, you would try to get your 'truth' out. You would not insult people and be vulgar and mean; you would state facts. But you do not do this, because what you say is nothing but lies. The sad thing is, you really do look beyond the surface. You COULD be a good investigator into things; but your own blind hatred prevents you from doing anything positive. Instead you swear at people, using the most vile language imaginable. You make accusations with no proof; only hate. If you truly cared about the members, then you wouldn't say half the things you do on your blog. That is all I have to say for now, but rest assured this will not be a dead blog. I cannot allow people to believe the things written at conspiracy, and I cannot allow people to believe that Amy, or the admins of MJHD have or had anything to do with Michael Jackson. MJHD always was a website about investigating his alleged death; nothing more.
If anybody reading this wants proof that the database was unfixable, that I was hacked, that other admin's were hacked, or whatever...I will do my best to provide what I can. Maybe I could get something from my webhost, a letter from the computer expert, or whatever. But the TRUTH about all of this must be seen for the member's sake!
DayDream
Hmmmmm? :roll:
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Yada yada yada more whining.
Fact remains she, he, him, them.. whoever wasn't capable of running a website in any capacity. That's why myself and probably many many others will never entertain that place again. But I'm sure if we have $7,000 we can buy it.
Whatever.
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I was doing some research on the MJHD domain on one of those site where you tells you info about when the domain was created etc. Anyway on http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ (http://www.who.is/whois/michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/) there's a snapshop of what used to homepage used to look like in the early days. Why on earth has she referred to Michael as "Jacko" . A true fan would know not to refer to him in this way! It's horrible and derogatory why would AMY refer to him in this way - i thought she was a fan
This is purely my speculation but is it possible that the person who created the website was intially a MJ-hater and wanted to mock fans who think he is still alive? Just asking.
yeah if so then the plan blew up in their face cuz we have seen a whole bunch coincidences or crazy things that dont add up surrounding mj's "death" so thanks Mj haters. yall lose again. lol :lol:
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Just found this blog posted on the mjhd twitter page:
link to blog: http://mjhdthetruthbehindthelies.blogspot.com/ (http://mjhdthetruthbehindthelies.blogspot.com/)
No more deception
Hello. Some of you may be wondering if I am, in fact, the same SilverWolf from MJHD. The answer is yes. I am THE silver wolf who was a mod, and later admin, of michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com. I have decided that I no longer wish to cover a lie that has, for the most part, been discovered anyway.
Everyone is speculating about John, and how MJHD came crashing down. Some have said that John is Amy herself. Well, the truth is that yes, Amy was John. However, her reasons behind creating John were far from simply to be hurtful--because that was not the intent.
Amy was distrought the night that John was created. She was ready to leave MJHD. DayDream, myself, and a couple of other moderators just so happened to be online chatting with her that night. We begged Amy to stay, and not close down MJHD. She was so sick and tired of all the hate, of all the slander and the accusations against her. Also, at the time, her personal information had just been released on someone's twitter. So, she was ready to quit right then and there.
So we had a chat with Amy. She finally listened to our pleas to stay only after a plan was formulated on how she could 'leave' but still keep MJHD up. This was not even Amy's idea in the first place--one of the mods came up with it, and I think it was a great idea. In order to get out of the eye of Conspiracy blogger, as well as other prying individuals, it was decided that she would say she gave the site over to a man named John. This way, she would be out of the spotlight, and MJHD could go on. It was supposed to be a win-win situation. This is why John was created.
Now, as we all know, most of the mods were kept out of "the loop" as they have said. Only 5 mods even knew that Amy was still involved with MJHD. The people who knew were the ones that happened to be chatting with Amy at the time. Remember that this is just after a post from our mod forum ended up on someone elses' forum. Amy did not know who to trust, so she decided that only the people in that chat at the time would ever know. So to all the mods that felt "left out" know that it could have been you in the know, had you happened to have been there at the time. It had nothing to do with anyone being more "pro-member" than anyone else.
As for the site going down, it was stated that John did this. This is sort of true, when you realize that Amy is John. However, it was not on purpose. The day it went down, Amy was having serious troubles fixing the forums (we were using WP at the time). The mod tools quit working, and she tried to fix it. This made things even worse, so she thought she would fix it by uninstalling WP completely, then reinstalling it. She made a backup database, and did this. However, things still kept going wrong. As we all know, the database didn't work. So things went from bad to worse. With her having accidentally brought MJHD down, she didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Amy was going to walk. She was planing on leaving, and she was planing on keeping the site closed. She felt that it was time. DayDream and myself didn't want to see this happen (nor did the members or other mods). So we offered to host the website ourselves, while all of the mods would become admins and run MJHD as a team--each admin with equal say in what goes on. Every single moderator of MJHD was given the oportunity to be an administrator. They all were more then aware that we were going to be taking over. Gymebunny, Wozniack, Henda11, Quesarasara, Rhianon, Myself, DayDream, klhayes, morefiah, starfox, purple7, goldielocks (aka biscuit), speed....every single one of us. We all decided that MJHD would be ran as a team, instead of one single person having full power. We thought it would benefit MJHD and benefit the members this way.
There were some mods we did not hear back from or were not active to begin with. Henda and speed were among them. They never became official admins (on the forum) since they did not keep in contact. We later heard from Henda via Wozniack, who we gave our email too so she could contact Henda. We didn't hear from Gymbunny right away either. When we did, I asked her specifically if she wanted to be a global mod, or an admin. She chose to be a global moderator, same as Woz. BOTH of them, at this time, knew that John was ficticious. In fact, they knew well before the new forums were put up--we ALL did by this time. Amy explained to us just before we took over. The two exceptions are Henda and Speed--they were not there, and we had to tell Speed afterword--henda, we still haven't heard from.
Which brings us back to John. Remember about 5 of us knew from the start John was Amy. We kept this a secret for a few reasons. For one, we talked Amy into this course of action, thinking it would help. For two, she was a friend; and friends stand up for one another--at least, that is how things are SUPPOSED to be. And finally, she deserved to be able to admin MJHD anonymously. It is every admins RIGHT to remain anonymous. And, having no idea who to trust, would you want to let just anyone know that info? Who was there knew, and it is as simple as that. The rest were kept in the dark about John untill MJHD was placed in our hands. At that point, every mod was told, including those who are now pretending they were never told.
As for us "taking over" the site: Day and I offered to host the site, the other mods agreed to be admins. We did this to try and keep MJHD alive--something that, obviously, failed miserably. We thought we could keep MJHD up for the members, but things did not work out. DayDream, myself, and all the other admins always cared for the members--I don't care what anyone else says about us; we did. Never let anyone tell you different. If we didn't, why would we have even wanted to take over? Just to see it crash a month later? It would have been easier to just walk away.
THIS is the true story. I am sorry Amy, if you read this and grow angry at me for revealing the truth. Honestly, I can't lie anymore. I'm sorry we talked you into this idea in the first place--not that you should have had to resort to such a scheme. It is BS! But you did, and we helped you do what we all thought was right. So, if exposing the truth makes you dislike us...well, again we cannot apologize enough; but it has to be done. For everyone. For me, for you, for day, for the other admins--but most importantly, for the members who continue to speculate and think that MJ or his family is behind the site. They DESERVE to know.
***A note to Wozniack and Gymbunny***
I don't know why you are ignoring my emails, and spreading lies. You know damn well I never cussed out any members of MJHD...and I never said you were Mo or Souza. I said why don't you go hang out with them--those were my EXACT words; you know it too. Why are you guys doing this? Why act like you knew nothing when you knew everything! Gymbunny at least, had the curtesy to cut all ties with me a long time ago.
You, Woz...you were even worse because you kept talking to me...pretended to be my friend. You wait untill just recently to stab me in the back, instead of coming out and saying how you felt about me. That is the worst. I trusted you, we all did. And you spread lies and hate about us? You knew damn well what was going on. The ONLY thing you and gym didn't know was that MJHD really was going down, because we didn't even know that. We are not psychics! We can't see months into the future! How were we supposed to know that MJHD was on it's last legs when we took over? We couldn't know that and didn't. But at least we tried; for the members.
It's painful to be slandered by anyone...but it hurts even more when that person was supposedly a friend.
Anyway, now everyone knows the truth. Feel free to post questions or comments; we will moderate them for language etc. but otherwise welcome them. And yes, conspiracy, that means you too.
Forever for the TRUTH,
~SilverWolf~
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Monday, December 7, 2009
The Truth...Continued
First, SW, you forgot to mention Smooth in your post While he didn't know in the beginning, he was made aware of John when everybody else was, and he actually suspected as much before he was told.
Anyway, I think that the truth has to be told because for some reason people seem to think that MJHD is connected to MJ, just like you said. I read it all the time, and I hope that members will realize that it was a website/forum and nothing more.
What I want to address is why I no longer wanted to host the site, which led to MJHD going down for the final time. I stated this before, and it was the truth. I was hacked, and I'm not the only one who was. Counting myself, three admins were hacked. Aside from the disgusting things that conspiracy said about me (just like he/she does about most of the people spoken of), getting hacked and banned from my own website/webhost was it for me! The site did not close because anybody was getting too close to the truth or anything like that. The simple fact is, I do not want to be hacked into, and being associated with MJHD cost me too much in the end. And for what??
People keep insisting that I'm lying about this, so I don't know...maybe there's a way I can get proof. I don't know how or what I could do to make you believe that I was hacked. My computer was pining MJHD over 1000 times per minute and so my webhost had no choice but to ban me. I had no access to even log in to my webhost, and I couldn't keep allowing that to go on. In addition, the focus of MJHD was no longer where it should be. It became more about drama than finding out what happened to MJ. Everything was falling apart--a sinking ship. You could patch the holes, but water kept seeping in. There was nothing that could be done. People wanted the database, which we tried our hardest to fix. Nothing was good enough though, and after being hacked...what was the point anymore? It's not as if members where that happy to begin with.
My main concern right now is this: When I surf to other MJ hoax sites I see people clinging to the hope that somehow MJHD is part of his hoax death. You have to think about things that have happened, and you will clearly see that MJ would NOT be a part of all this. Conspiracy played a big role in all of this, whether they choose to see that or not. Intentional or not, they are a big reason that Amy decided to quit in the first place, and I can't say I blame her for that at all. He/She almost made me quit. It's difficult to realize how that would effect you until you're the target of a blog like that. And make no mistakes about the intention of the blog. Conspiracy is NOT trying to help the members by showing truth. He or she...it..whatever could do that without being so vulgar and hurtful. It's not about truth, it's about HATE. Pure and simple! Most can see that, I think.
OH one question I see a lot too, is that when the new site went up the Founder for the new phpbb fourm showed up as being created June 1. This is impossible and it was some kind of error or something. I really have NO idea how that happened. The Founder account was used by myself and SW to create the forums. This account was inactive because we felt that since we admins were in this as a team, it was unfair for two of us to show as founder. That is why we created our own seperate accounts and the Founder account was inactive. It was only used when we needed it to make changes to the admin group. As you know, the final post came from that account. I do not know why it was June 1. This date has left people again speculating that there has to be some connection to MJ and that is NOT the truth. I cannot stress that enough. There is nothing about MJHD that is connected to MJ in any other way aside from people investigating his death, like many other forums now.
OH, something I read on cospiracy's blog. The fact that MJHD had an emotional support forum. While conspiracy is turning this into something bad..it was not. kl came up with that idea because of how many members were in emotional distress. That wasn't even Amy's thought. It was a great idea though, and we all liked it and agreed that it was needed.
The bottom line is that we (mods/admins) were trying to help when we took over the site. Not for ourselves, but for the members. The site was going to be closed the day when John was created. Sadly, Amy was just sick of it all. I don't blame her, as I was only there a month and I see a glimpse of the hell she went through for five months. In all honesty, I think it's pretty messed up that she even had to make the decision to go this route..the whole John thing. She should never have had to worry that much. We should never have suggested and pushed her into it. When she said she needed to go, we should have respected that. In hindsight, I regret not just backing her up when she was ready and wanted to leave. I'm sorry, Amy. If you ever read this..I am very sorry.
Finally, for some of the mods that choose to participate in the lies and hate, you need to prove what you're saying. Just as SW said, you all knew exactly what was going on. Maybe not at the beginning, but before the forums went up, YOU KNEW and you now are throwing us under the bus to make yourselves look better. You do know that if you continue to keep up your lies, SW and I are prepared to provide evidence and proof that you were in fact in the MOD group, had access to all the emails, and could have at any time contacted us if you wanted to. I do not wish to go this far, but I'm sick and tired of all of this. I only ask that you quit pretending that there were only a couple of you who cared..when in fact we all did. There was no pro-member mods..all of us were pro-member. The fact is, you could've come forward with the truth about the John/Amy situation at any point before now. So, don't know what your game is, but it's not working and I will no longer support ANY lies (even those that were told with good intentions).
Conspiracy, a note for you should you ever read this: If you truly cared about the members as you claim, instead of belittling them all the time, and putting them down, you would try to get your 'truth' out. You would not insult people and be vulgar and mean; you would state facts. But you do not do this, because what you say is nothing but lies. The sad thing is, you really do look beyond the surface. You COULD be a good investigator into things; but your own blind hatred prevents you from doing anything positive. Instead you swear at people, using the most vile language imaginable. You make accusations with no proof; only hate. If you truly cared about the members, then you wouldn't say half the things you do on your blog. That is all I have to say for now, but rest assured this will not be a dead blog. I cannot allow people to believe the things written at conspiracy, and I cannot allow people to believe that Amy, or the admins of MJHD have or had anything to do with Michael Jackson. MJHD always was a website about investigating his alleged death; nothing more.
If anybody reading this wants proof that the database was unfixable, that I was hacked, that other admin's were hacked, or whatever...I will do my best to provide what I can. Maybe I could get something from my webhost, a letter from the computer expert, or whatever. But the TRUTH about all of this must be seen for the member's sake!
DayDream
Hmmmmm? :roll:
i got lost at the part of amy being john. lol who's john?
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1. The emphasis is made over and over again that "MJ is NOT invloved" Why do that unless you are trying to make us think that..
2. Database has missing files but you were still able to uninstall stuff...I thought you need something in its entirety to be able to uninstall????
3.. The biggest thing for me is the FACT that MJHD and Derek Clontz were Number 1 and 3 on the google search list on the 26 June (Aust time) which would have been 25 June in the USA....This is undeniable and has NEVER been explained...Only by MJHD Conspiracy who has apparently made contact with Google...Creation dates are still in question..looking more and more dubious everyday.
4. I am thinking that all the mods have been DUPED by "Amy" whoever that person is...They are the ones who have been lied to...Have they ever met her in person do they know her life story or who she is REALLY
5. How do they explain her tweets etc...
This attempt at the truth is very noble and it is the full story from their point of view and through their experiences...It is not the FULL story...
Amy is the one who should be EXPOSED to the FULL...WHO IS THIS PERSON REALLY....
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There was no need for the lies and deception in the first place. Did Amy think we couldn't handle the truth? - what an insult! It's been left to somebody else to do the explaining.
"This made things even worse, so she thought she would fix it by uninstalling WP completely, then reinstalling it. She made a backup database, and did this. However, things still kept going wrong. As we all know, the database didn't work. So things went from bad to worse. With her having accidentally brought MJHD down, she didn't want to be a part of it anymore."
So the database has in actual fact been backed-up? So it still exists? hmmmmm...
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Alive, I read your entire post, thanks for sharing it.
MjsWendy, very very good points you made.
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Lets not forget how fast the website was up and running, google and u see what MJwendy is talking about.
Now, I don't know how fast things are in OZ when it comes to organsing a website but in general you would to need contact your internet provider and register a domein name and blabla that would keep u busy for a few days, if you are an IT pro and know excatly what u doing, still....u would need a day to get it al together.
Is Amy an IT pro?I don't think so.....
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Lets not forget how fast the website was up and running, google and u see what MJwendy is talking about.
Now, I don't know how fast things are in OZ when it comes to organsing a website but in general you would to need contact your internet provider and register a domein name and blabla that would keep u busy for a few days, if you are an IT pro and know excatly what u doing, still....u would need a day to get it al together.
Is Amy an IT pro?I don't think so.....
I agree. The site was up and running on June 25th. What I would like to know is what TIME the website started running. BEFORE or after news broke out on TMZ. I think the site popped up way too fast than anyone would expect, I wouldnt be so suspicious if this site opened 2-3 days after his death but this site was registered, purchased, open and designed on June 25th, either someone was really freaking quick and eager to make a website or this was planned before June 25th. I dont see how someone with so much information and theories would simply purchase, register, and start designing a website in such a short amount of time. This is what Im wondering of.
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Lets not forget how fast the website was up and running, google and u see what MJwendy is talking about.
Now, I don't know how fast things are in OZ when it comes to organsing a website but in general you would to need contact your internet provider and register a domein name and blabla that would keep u busy for a few days, if you are an IT pro and know excatly what u doing, still....u would need a day to get it al together.
Is Amy an IT pro?I don't think so.....
I found the website a few days after June 25th, and I believe it was just a blog with comments at the time. Wouldn't the startup time for that kind of site (Wordpress linked to a regular URL) be less than a full website? I remember people left comments under each posting before a forum opened.
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Lets not forget how fast the website was up and running, google and u see what MJwendy is talking about.
Now, I don't know how fast things are in OZ when it comes to organsing a website but in general you would to need contact your internet provider and register a domein name and blabla that would keep u busy for a few days, if you are an IT pro and know excatly what u doing, still....u would need a day to get it al together.
Is Amy an IT pro?I don't think so.....
I found the website a few days after June 25th, and I believe it was just a blog with comments at the time. Wouldn't the startup time for that kind of site (Wordpress linked to a regular URL) be less than a full website? I remember people left comments under each posting before a forum opened.
yes there was only comments to be left under every "article"
then the forum opened
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OMG, it's conspiracy inside conspiracy :o BTW I just saw that MJHD is sold
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1. The emphasis is made over and over again that "MJ is NOT invloved" Why do that unless you are trying to make us think that..
2. Database has missing files but you were still able to uninstall stuff...I thought you need something in its entirety to be able to uninstall????
3.. The biggest thing for me is the FACT that MJHD and Derek Clontz were Number 1 and 3 on the google search list on the 26 June (Aust time) which would have been 25 June in the USA....This is undeniable and has NEVER been explained...Only by MJHD Conspiracy who has apparently made contact with Google...Creation dates are still in question..looking more and more dubious everyday.
4. I am thinking that all the mods have been DUPED by "Amy" whoever that person is...They are the ones who have been lied to...Have they ever met her in person do they know her life story or who she is REALLY
5. How do they explain her tweets etc...
This attempt at the truth is very noble and it is the full story from their point of view and through their experiences...It is not the FULL story...
Amy is the one who should be EXPOSED to the FULL...WHO IS THIS PERSON REALLY....
I agree 100%!! SW stating that this site was NOT involved with MJ over and over again makes one think that he was involved. I don't know if Michael...L.O.V.E on the LK Blog is the real MJ, I noticed the other day that someone asked him of he knew anything about MJHD closing. His reply was that it closed because it had too much information to quick on the forum. Something like that. I tried looking for the comment, but can't find what blog it was left on. If that IS MJ(not convinced it defiantly is) then he was involved in the site. :?
I too would like to know WHO Amy is. A lot of people believe that she's someone else using Amy as an identity. I would also look a explanation on why she left the ":Peter Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do" tweets. That right there makes you think MJ had her close down the site!!
I don't think mods and admins know the truth to who Amy is and what her intentions were. I find the site being created June 1st or whatever date it was(before MJs death) suspicious! :? It defiantly makes you wonder... :?
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I agree 100%!! SW stating that this site was NOT involved with MJ over and over again makes one think that he was involved. I don't know if Michael...L.O.V.E on the LK Blog is the real MJ, I noticed the other day that someone asked him of he knew anything about MJHD closing. His reply was that it closed because it had too much information to quick on the forum. Something like that. I tried looking for the comment, but can't find what blog it was left on. If that IS MJ(not convinced it defiantly is) then he was involved in the site. :?
I too would like to know WHO Amy is. A lot of people believe that she's someone else using Amy as an identity. I would also look a explanation on why she left the ":Peter Pan is safe now" "I did what I was requested to do" tweets. That right there makes you think MJ had her close down the site!!
I don't think mods and admins know the truth to who Amy is and what her intentions were. I find the site being created June 1st or whatever date it was(before MJs death) suspicious! :? It defiantly makes you wonder... :?
Yes!!
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http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/)
Have you notice this forum ? I there is a contact between this forum and TNZ / Myspace.