Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: See on February 01, 2010, 04:13:53 AM
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Michael was honord during the Grammy´s it was apparent that it was in memoriam of Michael, they just did not whant the rest left out.... IMO it is not strange at all!
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O.K. WILL ANYONE...SOMEONE...PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW.........ON THIS EARTH CAN WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS STILL A HOAX..........PLEASE PLEASE AS I AM SOOOO UPSET ABOUT ALL OF THIS.......XXXXX
Ehhh, why are you so upset? :shock: It's great that they left MJ out of the RIP-list, right?
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YES... IAGREE IT IS A GOOD SIGN....BUT.....WHY WAS ALL THIS CHARADE KEPT GOING????.....IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.....XXXX
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i dont know about you all but i just saw the speech this morning and i had to cry because prince was almost crying and paris couldnt speak up well so i just lost a little hope right now ...but than i heard that mj is not listed at the RIP list !!! So my hope is back !! Its very confusing :? :? I feel so sad for the children :(
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I understand what you guys mean, but maybe it was just the nervous. It was the first time they speak in front of a huge public after the memorial, with a lot of famous people.. They are kids, so you can't blame them to be nervous like that, right?
It's a lot of presure to speech with the knowless you can't make any slip-up because it will shock the world... :D
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The more I think about this the more I feel is that this is not Michael's doing, at least not for pure entertainment.
I think he almost died June 25th and maybe he was revived the last minute - if anyone could revive someone it would be UCLA. Either he has been sick all these months or he is in danger and cant show himself till everyone involved in the case is arrested. Either way it is a sad and dangerous time for Michael cos he is in hiding or is sick.
The people who did this to him have to know he is dead so his families/friends keep up the act, but at the same time, they make mistakes or give the real fans clues that he is still around. It is good that Michael can also see who sold him out in the last few months - like Arnie Klein. An indication that he might be ok is Paris who was very close to him looks healthy and happy - just nervous of the crowd. If Murray is arrested and the rest with him, only then will Michael be able to come back. The LAPD has to get their case right and keep everyone safe at the same time.
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Michael was honord during the Grammy´s it was apparent that it was in memoriam of Michael, they just did not whant the rest left out.... IMO it is not strange at all!
So what ???
was it sooo big deal for them to put his name on the list ??? ;)
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I noticed this too!!! In thier "In Memoriam" section they do every year, they recognize all of the people in the music industry who passed away in the past year.....and they didn't mention MJ!?!?!?!?!?!??
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OMG :shock: I have the feeling that this is GREAT news!!!!
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OMG I have the feeling that this is GREAT news!!!!
Of course it is ! :)
Is there something more official than Grammys?
Aren't these the Oscars of music ?? ;)
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This news made my day,it's a huge clue that he is not listed in the RIP list,i have just watched the children's speech at Grammy,they were really so sweet,but it didnt make me sad,cause both of them,esp Prince seemed confused during their speech,from time to time forgetting what to say.Let's see what will come next
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The more I think about this the more I feel is that this is not Michael's doing, at least not for pure entertainment.
I think he almost died June 25th and maybe he was revived the last minute - if anyone could revive someone it would be UCLA. Either he has been sick all these months or he is in danger and cant show himself till everyone involved in the case is arrested. Either way it is a sad and dangerous time for Michael cos he is in hiding or is sick.
The people who did this to him have to know he is dead so his families/friends keep up the act, but at the same time, they make mistakes or give the real fans clues that he is still around. It is good that Michael can also see who sold him out in the last few months - like Arnie Klein. An indication that he might be ok is Paris who was very close to him looks healthy and happy - just nervous of the crowd. If Murray is arrested and the rest with him, only then will Michael be able to come back. The LAPD has to get their case right and keep everyone safe at the same time.
i like your theory ;)
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could this still be a sign he is alive?
there were some other tribute for the people that left us and he was sadly in it...why now?was he forgotten 8-) :roll:
i strongly believe he is recovering! :?
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I understand what you guys mean, but maybe it was just the nervous. It was the first time they speak in front of a huge public after the memorial, with a lot of famous people.. They are kids, so you can't blame them to be nervous like that, right?
It's a lot of presure to speech with the knowless you can't make any slip-up because it will shock the world... :D
I agree, I think it was because Prince was very nervous too.
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I was almost prepared to start crying if MJ suddenly appeared in the In Memoriam list and after I was shaking and almost panicking it was NOTHING. I mentioned it to my husband and he said something like "maybe the tribute was enough and they already mentioned it", and I recalled him that other people, like you mentioned it, were also honored during the show and they appeared again in the list.
Anyway I think it's good news. ;)
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Yes! First I thought he was fighting back tears and I got really nervous...
But then I realized that he was just thinking about what to say,
like memorizing his speech,so he stuttered a little.
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What if they're just screwing with our minds? :evil: They knew more people were gonna watch the freakin' show if they included a tribute to our King. What if someone (or some people , e.g. AEG, Grammy organizers etc.) are playing with our minds? They know that there are millions of people out there who love Michael and perhaps they'll just continue taking advantage of this fact. It just feels like someone is playing with us :x
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Well they did do a tribute so there may have been no need to put him on the list because of this.
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I think the Earth Song not was a memorial of MJ, but a lesson for us. Trying to teach us something, and MJ promissed to perform at 2010 grammys.. Earth Song was his performance. He should be on the list anyways.
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TMZ forgot to include him in their list, TII documentary forgot to mention it, and he is forgotten on the Grammys Memoriam list. I guess there is collective amnesia in the media about MJ's "passing".
yeah i've watched it, and he is not included, and it is no way a coincidence.. :) :D 8-)
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Didn't they have a tribute to Les Paul during the show? He was on the memoriam list.
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I like your theory ni-co-le; especially this one:
It is good that Michael can also see who sold him out in the last few months - like Arnie Klein.
:!: :!: :!:
Michael had so many "fake" friends and jealous HATERS its ridiculous. Klein and few others really make me cringe. :evil:
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Didn't they have a tribute to Les Paul during the show? He was on the memoriam list.
I didn't watch the show because I'm in the UK. Can anyone else confirm the tribute to Les Paul?
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Didn't they have a tribute to Les Paul during the show? He was on the memoriam list.
I didn't watch the show because I'm in the UK. Can anyone else confirm the tribute to Les Paul?
yeah there was a little tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdcUvhq_3do (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdcUvhq_3do)
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Thank you Eva - I am now happy and ecstatic that they left him off because he 'aint dead. :mrgreen:
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that is a great clue!!!
I just wonder...how many people know Michael is alive????? It is starting too many, to stay the story covered!!!
Better for Michael to come out soon,before someone releases the scoop!!! :)
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Thank you Eva - I am now happy and ecstatic that they left him off because he 'aint dead. :mrgreen:
Your Welcome! :D hahaha exactly!
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It's a no brainer that we "lost" MJ in june..... but leaving him off lists like that is just rude. So I'm wondering is someone telling people to leave him off? Is money being handed out? Surely stuff could leak if people were told the real reason to leave him off.
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yeah sometimes I think, do people this on purpose? Do they this because they know there are people who believe he is dead and because they do this, we keep searching? Are they playin with us?
But I don't think so ;)
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OK ummm guys? This is really really strange. I dont care if they did do a tribute to him, it doesn't matter. They should have included his name. No way around it sorry. ALso it is just like TMZ not putting him on there after these past 7 months. Makes no sense! Why would they not do it? ALso how there was no in memory of, or remembering MJ at the beginning or end of TII right?
Ok lets switch a bit.....I understand that Paris was really really nervous but ummm it seems like to me Prince's speech was more prepared than Paris. Paris just got up there and she was like "umm our daddy would have performed this year (2010) but he couldnt perform last year(2009) never the less they are sweet kids! :( Yeah we need to reallly listen to and analyze Paris words something about what she said. Then again maybe I am reading too much into her words.
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Yeah. a little strange. He was in The Golden Globe R.I.P. List, however, that awards show is specifically for movies. (as I recall, at least) Grammys focus solely on Music. Is there anyway to prove that this happened? I haven't seen this, so I'm wondering where I can watch that memorial listings of those who passed.
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i dont know about you all but i just saw the speech this morning and i had to cry because prince was almost crying and paris couldnt speak up well so i just lost a little hope right now ...but than i heard that mj is not listed at the RIP list !!! So my hope is back !! Its very confusing :? :? I feel so sad for the children :(
for me he didn't look like he would cry...he just looked very nervous and stuttered a little bit
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i dont know about you all but i just saw the speech this morning and i had to cry because prince was almost crying and paris couldnt speak up well so i just lost a little hope right now ...but than i heard that mj is not listed at the RIP list !!! So my hope is back !! Its very confusing :? :? I feel so sad for the children :(
for me he didn't look like he would cry...he just looked very nervous and stuttered a little bit
agreed!
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What if they're just screwing with our minds? :evil: They knew more people were gonna watch the freakin' show if they included a tribute to our King. What if someone (or some people , e.g. AEG, Grammy organizers etc.) are playing with our minds? They know that there are millions of people out there who love Michael and perhaps they'll just continue taking advantage of this fact. It just feels like someone is playing with us :x
Yes, I share your opinion. I often have the feeling WE are mind controlled. Not just Michael was mind controlled.I dont think we are controlled by Illuminati (I believe Michal was), but i want to say that not all the clues are from Michael. Some people or groups maybe take advantage of playing with our minds. For what reason they do it I really dont know.I am persuaded he is alive, but we know MJ always was and still is surrounded mainly by hyenas who just wants to make money from his person.
We know during his life there were many untrue gossips about him and now its the same after his "death". There are many theories and so on.I think someone is messing with us. So we must be reasonable a choose just clues that could be from Michael. I am saying this because I cant imagine what does it mean that michael wasnt included to RIP list- do all the grammy organizators know he is alive? And what about the other stars on Grammy? Rihanna, Beyonce... was that weird for them too? Do you think they are wondering about this? Or is it really "Hollywood's top secret" that he is alive?
Sometimes I really dont know what to think. Damn I am curious what is going on here...
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i dont know about you all but i just saw the speech this morning and i had to cry because prince was almost crying and paris couldnt speak up well so i just lost a little hope right now ...but than i heard that mj is not listed at the RIP list !!! So my hope is back !! Its very confusing :? :? I feel so sad for the children :(
I know how you feel today is the worst it has knocked my belief i am not sure you can act those sad eyes the children have just look at blanket and why would Michael let the children go up there , i dont know I hope I am wrong and it part of a plan with Michael you never know.
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TMZ forgot to include him in their list, TII documentary forgot to mention it, and he is forgotten on the Grammys Memoriam list. I guess there is collective amnesia in the media about MJ's "passing".
yeah i've watched it, and he is not included, and it is no way a coincidence.. :) :D 8-)
Well I cant believe that it can not be a mistake he is the most important musical entertainer ever and not to be mentioned is amazing wrong but right for us wow how can go past the people there without them questioning it not unless it is a Hollywood secret that they all know about . i wish we knew this is all getting a bit to much for me and i expect all of you nerves have had it
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What if they're just screwing with our minds? :evil: They knew more people were gonna watch the freakin' show if they included a tribute to our King. What if someone (or some people , e.g. AEG, Grammy organizers etc.) are playing with our minds? They know that there are millions of people out there who love Michael and perhaps they'll just continue taking advantage of this fact. It just feels like someone is playing with us :x
Yes, I share your opinion. I often have the feeling WE are mind controlled. Not just Michael was mind controlled.I dont think we are controlled by Illuminati (I believe Michal was), but i want to say that not all the clues are from Michael. Some people or groups maybe take advantage of playing with our minds. For what reason they do it I really dont know.I am persuaded he is alive, but we know MJ always was and still is surrounded mainly by hyenas who just wants to make money from his person.
We know during his life there were many untrue gossips about him and now its the same after his "death". There are many theories and so on.I think someone is messing with us. So we must be reasonable a choose just clues that could be from Michael. I am saying this because I cant imagine what does it mean that michael wasnt included to RIP list- do all the grammy organizators know he is alive? And what about the other stars on Grammy? Rihanna, Beyonce... was that weird for them too? Do you think they are wondering about this? Or is it really "Hollywood's top secret" that he is alive?
Sometimes I really dont know what to think. Damn I am curious what is going on here...
Sorry i have just said the same thing i didnt mean to copy you but great minds think alike he just cant be left off the list by mistake it has to mean something and why havnt the sars there bloodywell complained and caused a big argument about it i would if i was them not unless they know, i have to say i saw celiene Dion and she looked very upset when she talked about mj and she said she was angry about what happened to him but she was choking up.
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What if they're just screwing with our minds? :evil: They knew more people were gonna watch the freakin' show if they included a tribute to our King. What if someone (or some people , e.g. AEG, Grammy organizers etc.) are playing with our minds? They know that there are millions of people out there who love Michael and perhaps they'll just continue taking advantage of this fact. It just feels like someone is playing with us :x
Yes, I share your opinion. I often have the feeling WE are mind controlled. Not just Michael was mind controlled.I dont think we are controlled by Illuminati (I believe Michal was), but i want to say that not all the clues are from Michael. Some people or groups maybe take advantage of playing with our minds. For what reason they do it I really dont know.I am persuaded he is alive, but we know MJ always was and still is surrounded mainly by hyenas who just wants to make money from his person.
We know during his life there were many untrue gossips about him and now its the same after his "death". There are many theories and so on.I think someone is messing with us. So we must be reasonable a choose just clues that could be from Michael. I am saying this because I cant imagine what does it mean that michael wasnt included to RIP list- do all the grammy organizators know he is alive? And what about the other stars on Grammy? Rihanna, Beyonce... was that weird for them too? Do you think they are wondering about this? Or is it really "Hollywood's top secret" that he is alive?
Sometimes I really dont know what to think. Damn I am curious what is going on here...
Sorry i have just said the same thing i didnt mean to copy you but great minds think alike he just cant be left off the list by mistake it has to mean something and why havnt the sars there bloodywell complained and caused a big argument about it i would if i was them not unless they know, i have to say i saw celiene Dion and she looked very upset when she talked about mj and she said she was angry about what happened to him but she was choking up.
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What if they're just screwing with our minds? :evil: They knew more people were gonna watch the freakin' show if they included a tribute to our King. What if someone (or some people , e.g. AEG, Grammy organizers etc.) are playing with our minds? They know that there are millions of people out there who love Michael and perhaps they'll just continue taking advantage of this fact. It just feels like someone is playing with us :x
Yes, I share your opinion. I often have the feeling WE are mind controlled. Not just Michael was mind controlled.I dont think we are controlled by Illuminati (I believe Michal was), but i want to say that not all the clues are from Michael. Some people or groups maybe take advantage of playing with our minds. For what reason they do it I really dont know.I am persuaded he is alive, but we know MJ always was and still is surrounded mainly by hyenas who just wants to make money from his person.
We know during his life there were many untrue gossips about him and now its the same after his "death". There are many theories and so on.I think someone is messing with us. So we must be reasonable a choose just clues that could be from Michael. I am saying this because I cant imagine what does it mean that michael wasnt included to RIP list- do all the grammy organizators know he is alive? And what about the other stars on Grammy? Rihanna, Beyonce... was that weird for them too? Do you think they are wondering about this? Or is it really "Hollywood's top secret" that he is alive?
Sometimes I really dont know what to think. Damn I am curious what is going on here...
Yeah, I'm getting really fed up too, I want to know what's going! The whole list thing is weird but does leaving him out really mean he's alive? As you said that would mean that all organizers are in on it but I doubt that. I'm not going to say he's alive because he's not on the list but I'm VERY curious about why he wasn't included?! :( And yeah, why is noone questioning this, celebs, news people?
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Keeping MJ off the "RIP" list is a good sign that he's still with us. I know it's been 7 months but gotta keep the faith ;)
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yeaah..! I noticed that too !!
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When you really think about it, everybody is mind controlled to an extent. We believe what our minds and/or hearts tell us to believe. And most cannot or will not allow anyone to sway them.
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They not only left him out, they purposefully brought attention to this at Grammy.com. On their website, they have an article titled "11 reasons to watch the Grammys." Reason #8 is the "in memoriam segment" and reads as follows...
Wild At The GRAMMYs: 11 Reasons To Watch
January 28, 2010 – 2:52pm
8) Because there will be an in memoriam segment during the show, and unless things go very badly for any of us this weekend, we probably won't be in it. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: He is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO alive!
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could this still be a sign he is alive?
there were some other tribute for the people that left us and he was sadly in it...why now?was he forgotten 8-) :roll:
i strongly believe he is recovering! :?
Oh Wow!!, i never watched it, but to me this is def a good sign.
I mean if other people were on the list and he was'nt, it kinda ties into him missing on tmz rip list aswell so, happy days are here again!!! :P :P
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Yeah, I'm getting really fed up too, I want to know what's going! The whole list thing is weird but does leaving him out really mean he's alive? As you said that would mean that all organizers are in on it but I doubt that. I'm not going to say he's alive because he's not on the list but I'm VERY curious about why he wasn't included?! :( And yeah, why is noone questioning this, celebs, news people?
Perhaps it was simply requested by the family.
If he is dead, it might have been requested because he wanted to live forever, he did not want to die. Joe also wanted to remember Michael alive, dancing on stage.
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Yeah, I'm getting really fed up too, I want to know what's going! The whole list thing is weird but does leaving him out really mean he's alive? As you said that would mean that all organizers are in on it but I doubt that. I'm not going to say he's alive because he's not on the list but I'm VERY curious about why he wasn't included?! :( And yeah, why is noone questioning this, celebs, news people?
Perhaps it was simply requested by the family.
If he is dead, it might have been requested because he wanted to live forever, he did not want to die. Joe also wanted to remember Michael alive, dancing on stage.
I wonder if there is a way to ask the family about what they think, that way we'll know if it was their request. Perhaps someone who's got a twitter account? I mean they weren't even invited so do you think they'd have a say in anything? Idk...
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I have just Tweeted the executive produce of the Grammys, Ken Ehrlich, and have asked him if he can explain why Michael Jackson was not mentioned in the RIP at the end. Let's see if he replies. ;)
While I'm on this topic, did anyone know that back towards the end of 2006, AEG bought out Ken Ehrlich Productions???? Hmmm, interesting. See link below.
http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4390919-1.html
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I have just Tweeted the executive produce of the Grammys, Ken Ehrlich, and have asked him if he can explain why Michael Jackson was not mentioned in the RIP at the end. Let's see if he replies. ;)
While I'm on this topic, did anyone know that back towards the end of 2006, AEG bought out Ken Ehrlich Productions???? Hmmm, interesting. See link below.
http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4390919-1.html
someone also asked it on twitter to Kenny. He tweeted back he wasnt there and he didn't saw the memoriam so he didn't knew it.
or something! haha!
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Perhaps it was simply requested by the family.
If he is dead, it might have been requested because he wanted to live forever, he did not want to die. Joe also wanted to remember Michael alive, dancing on stage.
...oh yes, such a tender and loving father :evil: :evil:
If something like that has happened , then noone should be on the RIP lists .
I don't think that someone from the other in " memoriam list" would like to die!
And some of them were quite young people too, so...
I really don't think so .
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Perhaps it was simply requested by the family.
If he is dead, it might have been requested because he wanted to live forever, he did not want to die. Joe also wanted to remember Michael alive, dancing on stage.
...oh yes, such a tender and loving father :evil: :evil:
If something like that has happened , then noone should be on the RIP lists .
I don't think that someone from the other in " memoriam list" would like to die!
And some of them were quite young people too, so...
I really don't think so .
It is not relevant what you think of Joe as a father. If that would be how Joe felt, like he said in an interview, it makes sense he/the family would request such a thing.
Ofcourse the others did not want to die either. Michael wanted to live forever, in a Peter Pan kind of way. Too bad you do not understand what I am trying to point out.