Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => June 25, 2009 => Carolwood Drive, Events & Statements on/About June 25 => Topic started by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 01:38:47 PM

Title: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 01:38:47 PM
was thinking not sure if we have discussed this one,

but would you mind if we discussed the criminal scene, the house, the bedroom, security?

i am going to look in to this and make some points.

one point though before i go, how come we have such a tidy bedroom?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8TLORi ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8TLORi_0Q&feature=related)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 01:46:02 PM
Here I found a picture on the net, don't if it's true or just another fake-photo

Michael Jacksons Deathbed:
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8H0Kkxi4vSg/0.jpg (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8H0Kkxi4vSg/0.jpg)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 01:57:54 PM
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/431514/Michael-Jacksons-deathbed-photo.html

Here, I hope it helps!
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 02:11:19 PM
guys your quick.

there was a photo sort of a pan view of the room with the stately type furniture. I just thought if you have the fear of god that mj was very ill the room would be totalled

not the case here
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 02:15:17 PM
What I find so ...
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 02:22:03 PM
thats it - surely not the scene of a murder, or a death?

it so neat and clean

not a den of a drug taker

not a medical facility
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 02:31:39 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
thats it - surely not the scene of a murder, or a death?

it so neat and clean

not a den of a drug taker

not a medical facility

yeah really tidy....

and I've read the article in NOTW. Ther it is said that Orange Juice stood on the table. A Source said: "He tried to stay healthy" ( Is this what drugtakers do???)

And then in the first line it is said, that a family insider took this shot I've posted  and then a few lines down it is said that a detective shot that pic, or did I get it wrong?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
This I also found yet  Pictures
http://talk.excite.de/bilder/5199/Fotos-von-Jackos-Sterbebett/0/todesbett
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
This I also found yet  Pictures
http://talk.excite.de/bilder/5199/Fotos-von-Jackos-Sterbebett/0/todesbett


OMG it's horrible to see it that clearly....his prayer bead is on the bed there....
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
@Kirsche
I know! I saw the prayer beads even then!
At that time I was crying ....... cruel!!
We need to know the truth, maybe it's going pretty well back to!
I think it is important
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
@Kirsche
I know! I saw the prayer beads even then!
At that time I was crying ....... cruel!!
We need to know the truth, maybe it's going pretty well back to!
I think it is important



I just can't believe that, whoever made this pic, sold this just to get a huge bunch of money...  :evil:

But otherwise..what if the picture was meant to be sold..if this all was prepared?   And why is the oxygen tube till there on the floor after they rushed him into hospital? Shouldn't they have tried to supply him with oxygen on the way to the ambulance car? Just like they did in the ambulance??
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 02:44:49 PM
@Kirsche
Yes, I know I have all these thoughts, I might be Insane  :twisted:
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 02:53:34 PM
it would seem that NOTW had the exclusive  on the deathbed?

but why,?

it looks staged but not like the emergency services brusting in and being all over the room
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 02:54:39 PM
when these photos first came out i felt like i was a sicko for looking at them, i thought i was so disrespectful, but revisiting the scene it seems so unreal
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 02:57:18 PM
Toothpaste in bed
CD or DVD
Incontinent pad
 :?:  :?:  :?:
It is not the tatort, it was placed ........ but why this type
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 03:05:59 PM
i think all the great detectives go back to the crime scene because that is where everything started, so far as the clues are concerned.

we do not know what decisions were made before hand so you CSI/cold case hoax investigators lets see what we can gather, this is going to take some time. we have limited information, but i note on YT there is some vids that i had not seem before, so it may be worth our while to look into this.

i am glad you are supporting this thread. lets see what we can dig up

xx
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 03:11:56 PM
@Tausendundeine Nacht
Exactly my opinion!
I agree
;)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 25, 2010, 03:14:25 PM
[youtube:2k5ai8bq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzLp9crbCak[/youtube:2k5ai8bq]
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
good to see that....so nobody could confirm this picture was real...sounds great.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mdc on January 25, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
Hmm...it's awfully convenient that the instruction manual is right there with the ambu-bag thing (kinda like it had just been opened?). It just looks staged to me. And in all the frenzy to save Michael the CREST TOOTHPASTE (LOL) and the prayer beads are still on the bed?  Nope not gonna believe it.

I wouldn't even wipe my a** with the News of the World or The National Enquirer!
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 25, 2010, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: mdc
Hmm...it's awfully convenient that the instruction manual is right there with the ambu-bag thing (kinda like it had just been opened?). It just looks staged to me. And in all the frenzy to save Michael the CREST TOOTHPASTE (LOL) and the prayer beads are still on the bed?  Nope not gonna believe it.

I wouldn't even wipe my a** with the News of the World or The National Enquirer![/



I also don't get it with the toothpaste...Okay it had nothing to do with the rescue but why the hell was it on that bed? Do they need to brush his teeth again for a good looking ambo pic???

don't get that.,..
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 03:19:55 PM
100 Carol Wood Drive

please the link http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 3%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nHmUxKq2nz4/SkUSsZsPdHI/AAAAAAAADHA/ZV9OL38xHak/s200/100-North-Carolwood-Drive-001.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bellcurveoflife.blogspot.com/2009/06/100-carolwood-drive.html&usg=__4fqvFWQqNqskO60zy_T8TlpUU4I=&h=146&w=200&sz=13&hl=en&start=12&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=D3gHxwcnvLmyIM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26um%3D1)

the photos show a huge drive so why were the emergency service reversing?

there is an underground garage entrance. interesting

the house is set in the middle of busy Sunset Blvd, a lot of traffic passes
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 03:23:14 PM
inside 100 Carolwood Drive
this posting done 26/06/09
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 26, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/431514/Michael-Jacksons-deathbed-photo.html

Here, I hope it helps!
this article says it was written feb 8th 2009

can anyone please explain to me how they date the articles because it doesnt make sense how they have all these crazy dates before MJ died...its so confusing to me really
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 03:38:20 PM
see summary of events and google maps of the house, and road network

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 6%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Michael-Jackson-Intubated-L.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-1958-2009-lafd-paramedic-rescue-call-cpr-for-50-yo-man/&usg=__4nHrXSk7P7jc4T0HLrbsLVJ1TeE=&h=125&w=595&sz=31&hl=en&start=50&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=G5JIxkywefFnFM:&tbnh=28&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26um%3D1)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 26, 2010, 03:38:57 PM
or could it have been written august 2nd...i dont know but the dates are all outta wack eerr frustrated
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 03:47:23 PM
26/06/09
people blogging
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 2%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kerrydean.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-memorial-service-ticket-wristband-staples-center.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.kerrydean.com/tag/michael-jackson/&usg=__CRBxeoTCp073EOGmozzdh36RbaA=&h=318&w=425&sz=118&hl=en&start=86&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=pEe5ff5FXaa_2M:&tbnh=94&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D72%26um%3D1)
Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy Theory

Here we are not even 24 after Michael Jackson’s tragic death, and the Michael Jackson death conspiracy theories are spiraling out of control. In fact, I don’t think we have ever seen a celebrity death as big as MJ’s. With the amount of social media services out there, the commentary, news and conspiracy theories are spreading like wildfire. There is a post over at Mashable, claiming that 22% of all tweets contain the term ‘Michael Jackson’, and nearly 30% of all tweets are about Michael Jackson. I posted several links in yesterday’s Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy post, but here are several more links related to Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy Theories:

?Michael Jackson death: conspiracy theories and unanswered questions (telegraph.co.uk)
?Mystery grows around Michael Jackson’s death (independent.co.uk)
?Jackson Death Conspiracy? (uk.news.yahoo.com)
?Michael Jackson conspiracy theory? (Yahoo Answers: 1, 2, 3, 4)
?Michael Jackson Conspiracy Theory? (digitalspy.co.uk)
Update (6-26-2009):

?‘Jackson’s not dead, he’s living in a bunker with Elvis Presley’: Conspiracy theories flood the internet (dailymail.co.uk)
?Michael Jackson’s Conspiracy Theory (cinemablend.com)
Update (6-29-2009):

?‘I’m better off dead. I’m done’: Michael Jackson’s fateful prediction just a week before his death (dailymail.co.uk)
?No food just pills in his stomach, bald, bruised, his ribs broken by CPR, 4 needle wounds near his heart (thesun.co.uk)
?Was Michael Jackson Chemically Manipulated for Profit? (naturalnews.com)
?Russia’s FSB Reports Pop Icon Michael Jackson Assassinated By CIA (fourwinds10.com)
?Jackson death: Second autopsy amid conspiracy rumours (hindu.com)
?The morphing face of Michael Jackson (video.google.com)
?Jackson Conspiracy Theories Swarm Web (news.sky.com)
Update (6-30-2009): Someone posted a picture, claiming Michael Jackson is alive.

?Wacko theory that Jacko is ‘alive’ (thesun.co.uk)
?Michael Jackson Hoax Death (michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com)
?Michael Jackson faked his own death (redheadranting.blogspot.com)
?Michael Jackson Sightings (michaeljacksonsightings.com)
The site has published a grainy photo it says is Jacko, above, and claims the man who died on Thursday was a Jacko double with a terminal illness whose family will be looked after in return.

A message reads: “Over the past few days there have been many Michael sightings. People have e-mailed with pictures and amazing stories.

“Michael is alive and well and happier than ever. The plot was 10 years in the making but it had to be done.

“We know he is alive because we have seen pictures. Clear pictures taken June 26, 2009 of Michael Jackson lounging poolside with friends.
?Eerie pictures show Michael Jackson rehearsing on stage for London comeback gigs just 48 hours before he died (dailymail.co.uk)
?AP Exclusive: Jackson wrapped video before death (reuters.com)
?Michael Jackson claimed net worth of $236 million as of March 31, 2007, documents show (breitbart.com)
Update (7-2-2009):


?Federal Drug Agents Asked to Join Michael Jackson Death Probe (abcnews.go.com)
?Michael Jackson Funeral Set for July 7 at Staples Center (showbiz411.com)
?Geller to Jacko: You will die (thesun.co.uk)
?‘Endless’ supply of music in Jackson’s vaults (apnews.myway.com)
?Second Michael Jackson autopsy stuns family (thesun.co.uk)
?Lawyer for doctor: Jackson had pulse when found (news.yahoo.com)
?Neverland Ranch Public Viewing CANCELLED (rantrave.com)
?Jackson’s Death Provokes Memories of Elvis Conspiracy (wired.com)
Update (7-6-2009):

?Michael Jackson to be buried without his brain (mirror.co.uk)
?Tickets to Jackson memorial being sold for thousands (breitbart.com)
Update (7-13-2009):

?LaToya Jackson Claims Michael Jackson Was Murdered (mtv.com)
Michael Jackson sightings in Mexico? He’s alive and lounging poolside with friends? A plot 10 years in the making? This story is fascinating

More as I find it…
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 03:55:48 PM
blog on coma and 3 year tour

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 8%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://allieiswired.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/michael-jackson-sick.jpg&imgrefurl=http://prince.org/msg/8/309751%3F%26pg%3D31&usg=__HgNckiDeNfp9bQd30ZaY33ymrwY=&h=627&w=470&sz=51&hl=en&start=120&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=zSLCP9gICQPfFM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D108%26um%3D1)
Michael Jackson is dead [Updated]
2:06 PM | June 25, 2009

[Updated at 3:15 p.m.: Pop star Michael Jackson was pronounced dead by doctors this afternoon after arriving at a hospital in a deep coma, city and law enforcement sources told The Times.]

[Updated at 2:46 p.m.: Jackson is in a coma and family have are arriving at his bedside, a law enforcement source told The Times.

Jackson was rushed to a hospital this afternoon by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics.

Capt. Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a call at Jackson's home around 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The parademics performed CPR and took him to UCLA Medical Center, Ruda told The Times.

[Updated at 2:12 p.m.: Paramedics were called to a home on the 100 block of Carolwood Drive off Sunset Boulevard. Jackson rented the Bel Air home for $100,000 a month. It was described as a French chateau estate built in 2002 with seven bedrooms, 13 bathrooms, 12 fireplaces and a theater.

The home is about 2 1/2 miles, about a six-minute drive, from UCLA Medical Center. An earlier version of this post incorrectly described the time to travel between the home and hospital as two minutes.]

The news comes as Jackson, 50, was attempting a comeback after years of tabloid headlines, most notably his trial and acquittal on child molestation charges.

In May, The Times reported that Jackson had rented the Bel Air residence and was rehearsing for a series of 50 sold-out shows in London's O2 Arena. Jackson had won the backing of two billionaires to get the so-called "King of Pop" back on stage.

His backers envision the shows at AEG's O2 as an audition for a career rebirth that could ultimately encompass a three-year world tour, a new album, movies, a Graceland-like museum, musical revues in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a "Thriller" casino. Such a rebound could wipe out Jackson's massive debt.

--Andrew Blankstein and Phil Willon
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 26, 2010, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
thats it - surely not the scene of a murder, or a death?

it so neat and clean

not a den of a drug taker

not a medical facility

yeah really tidy....

and I've read the article in NOTW. Ther it is said that Orange Juice stood on the table. A Source said: "He tried to stay healthy" ( Is this what drugtakers do???)

And then in the first line it is said, that a family insider took this shot I've posted  and then a few lines down it is said that a detective shot that pic, or did I get it wrong?

There are different level of drug use... they say MJ was a prescription drug user.  He was a functioning drug user.. so he wasnt a crack head or a dead beat bag head...  so it is plausable he still ate healthy and was clean.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:04:25 PM
sorry back on thread, it was the 3 year tour that got me, i so believe that they put this man under pressure, i thought it was  a 2 year gig now it could be 3 years, i would jump - who could blame mj.

any way back on thread, has anyone heard or read anything about this underground garage, this may have been useful for an escape?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
thats it - surely not the scene of a murder, or a death?

it so neat and clean

not a den of a drug taker

not a medical facility

yeah really tidy....

and I've read the article in NOTW. Ther it is said that Orange Juice stood on the table. A Source said: "He tried to stay healthy" ( Is this what drugtakers do???)

And then in the first line it is said, that a family insider took this shot I've posted  and then a few lines down it is said that a detective shot that pic, or did I get it wrong?

There are different level of drug use... they say MJ was a prescription drug user.  He was a functioning drug user.. so he wasnt a crack head or a dead beat bag head...  so it is plausable he still ate healthy and was clean.

yes totally agree, i don't think he saw himself as a drug user in the street sense, it has been reported that he received medication, but we dont even know that - no autopsy.

i say nothing is fact because i have not seen it.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:19:34 PM
this picture needs a certificate rating, but its not fact. how did this information come about?

the link to the mirror has been removed
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 26, 2010, 04:24:32 PM
i dont like that picture one bit  :(
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:26:30 PM
They tastefully state that mikes last residence goes up for sale on 29/06/09

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 2%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://100ncarolwooddrive.com/100NCarolwoodDrive.jpg&imgrefurl=http://100ncarolwooddrive.com/&usg=__szCR42qFHZiySSVK5tjO8Wnv0RI=&h=400&w=400&sz=90&hl=en&start=270&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=AhfNrFS7RrLcsM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D252%26um%3D1)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:27:01 PM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
i dont like that picture one bit  :(

dreadful, sorry
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjj_fan on January 26, 2010, 04:31:27 PM
he was on anxiolytics that reduce stress according to dr deepak , was taking 40 tablets /day , normal to  prescribe an anxious patient /one having panic attack but the dose he  taken by him was beyond therapeutic dose
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:34:09 PM
NOTW
posts these pictures of the alleged post it notes

but so what if he did write them, it is an excellent way of remembering and learning.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 57090a.JPG (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00057/jacko_letters_1309_57090a.JPG)
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 0%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00057/jacko_letters_1309_57090a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/500267/Michael-Jackson-Im-a-magnet-for-miracles-Read-Jacko-messages.html&usg=__NH-f4KIP7yPhRWZc-I5Z02lLu3A=&h=394&w=516&sz=103&hl=en&start=273&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=J8OkdXETOFXL8M:&tbnh=100&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D270%26um%3D1)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 26, 2010, 04:36:03 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
NOTW
posts these pictures of the alleged post it notes

but so what if he did write them, it is an excellent way of remembering and learning.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 57090a.JPG (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00057/jacko_letters_1309_57090a.JPG)


I#Ve heard it or read it elsewhere that he had these notes on his mirror?

hm, who's Temperton?

ah okay I forgot, it is him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Temperton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Temperton)

but the other notes except the "we are the world-thing" ...kinda weird
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:39:10 PM
hi guys i am only putting out what i have found on the web, because i do not think that we have explored the crime scene, i am not saying he is dead, i want to explore this place, becaue as i said before the place where this began is important and may help us.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:41:11 PM
i dont think post it notes are weird, they are a good colourful way to record data, and to help memory.

they maybe song verses or potential hits, clever mike
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjj_fan on January 26, 2010, 04:43:46 PM
i did the same when i was student, n still  i paste it on walls to keep things in mind..... it really works :)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 26, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i dont think post it notes are weird, they are a good colourful way to record data, and to help memory.

they maybe song verses or potential hits, clever mike


I mean the words on that notes;

LOVE NO VIOLENCE EVER and then the future thing...

and the Grateful magnet for miracles....<--- maybe a hint or a clue? But then he had to be sure, that these notes will be released to the public
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
i did the same when i was student, n still  i paste it on walls to keep things in mind..... it really works :)
exactly
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:48:17 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
this picture needs a certificate rating, but its not fact. how did this information come about?

the link to the mirror has been removed

in the drawn picture,  contrast with the photograph, the photograph is neat and tidy, no signs of the oxygen tanks.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 26, 2010, 04:48:43 PM
Aah... Rod Temperton. Yes Mike.. call him.  He is a good man.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
i think there is just one more photo i saw in the newspapers - which labels the photo of the room?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 26, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Aah... Rod Temperton. Yes Mike.. call him.  He is a good man.

expand please
x
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 26, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
@Kirsche
I know! I saw the prayer beads even then!
At that time I was crying ....... cruel!!
We need to know the truth, maybe it's going pretty well back to!
I think it is important



I just can't believe that, whoever made this pic, sold this just to get a huge bunch of money...  :evil:

But otherwise..what if the picture was meant to be sold..if this all was prepared?   And why is the oxygen tube till there on the floor after they rushed him into hospital? Shouldn't they have tried to supply him with oxygen on the way to the ambulance car? Just like they did in the ambulance??

When were these photos taken.  Janet and laToya went over the next day and removed Michael's things.  You are not going to make me believe that they left all that stuff in Michael's room to incriminate him.    NO WAY.  This stuff was most likely staged after Janet and LaToya left.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 26, 2010, 07:26:50 PM
umm his hanwriting looks fake in those post it notes...looks like someone elses handwriting lol
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mdc on January 26, 2010, 08:21:16 PM
Actually those post it notes don't look "handwritten" at all.  They look computer generated...like a font.  The letters like the "m" and the "e" look exactly the same. When I hand write something my letters never look the same like that.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 26, 2010, 09:08:39 PM
i agree those are not hand written notess...those are intentionally placed there they are fake...but i do think its another clue...we need to look deeper at Dr. thome thome because he said call him hmm...they still had a obvious relationship
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 26, 2010, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
This I also found yet  Pictures
http://talk.excite.de/bilder/5199/Fotos-von-Jackos-Sterbebett/0/todesbett

I don't know if any of you have noticed, but the box spring of that bed isnt a full box spring.  It is actually two twin sized box springs joined!  Isn't that strange?  Why would MJ have use a bed with such support?  That would be a hassle if you were to toss and turn in bed.  The pic is definitely fake.  And yeah, I noticed the instruction booklet right beside the pump.  In my opinion that booklet is neatly placed.  Ya know? facing the camera for a perfect photo?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mdc on January 26, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
This I also found yet  Pictures
http://talk.excite.de/bilder/5199/Fotos-von-Jackos-Sterbebett/0/todesbett

I don't know if any of you have noticed, but the box spring of that bed isnt a full box spring.  It is actually two twin sized box springs joined!  Isn't that strange?  Why would MJ have use a bed with such support?  That would be a hassle if you were to toss and turn in bed.  The pic is definitely fake.  And yeah, I noticed the instruction booklet right beside the pump.  In my opinion that booklet is neatly placed.  Ya know? facing the camera for a perfect photo?

If I'm not mistaken, I think box springs for king size beds do come that way, as two twin sizes.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjthelegendlives on January 26, 2010, 10:29:35 PM
I really dont know, but wouldnt that make a full or queen size bed?  Oh God, I feel silly asking this and having to look for information on this  :lol: ...

**Edit - you're right.  Some of them do come with two twin sized box springs.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: alovesmichael on January 27, 2010, 11:50:06 AM
My question is, as someone already stated, when were these photo taken and by who?! I find it very very strange indeed...

Even though the pictures might be fake they do make my skin crawl  :(
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 01:36:39 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
My question is, as someone already stated, when were these photo taken and by who?! I find it very very strange indeed...

Even though the pictures might be fake they do make my skin crawl  :(
and also who did the illustration, on what basis - an assumption?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 02:39:06 PM
[youtube:33to50s8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_XUX1HkaM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:33to50s8]
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 02:43:11 PM
more photo's of the house
[youtube:3n2e8clw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbrglGSvCE&feature=related[/youtube:3n2e8clw]
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 27, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
those items looked placed there...i dont get the toothpaste though can anyone explain to me what toothpaste is used for when trying to save a person from cardiac arrest? in confused  :?  that video made me all emotional with that darn song! :(
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
they report that NOTW has a pic of the alleged death bed of MJ but they do not know if it is legit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9toYJkJ ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9toYJkJsNE&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 03:28:10 PM
this is what the mirror reported on 03/08/09 about the death bed, but TNOTW were the only ones who had the photo? why is this?

"A picture has been published showing the bedroom where medics battled to save Michael Jackson.

The photo, which appeared in a Sunday tabloid at the weekend, was taken the day after the singer's death and shows the scene exactly as 999 crews found it when they were called to his home last month.

Jacko was pronounced dead two hours later and the second-floor room - thought to have been used by his personal doctor Conrad Murray - was immediately sealed as police launched an investigation. Nothing was removed.

In a powerful snapshot of his final moments, medical kit used to try to revive him lies discarded.

On the rug at the foot of the bed is a used Ambu-bag - a hand-held device used to resuscitate patients by forcing air through a mask and into the lungs.

More medical equipment is stored away on a wheeled trolley in the corner of the room including alcohol prepara-tion pads, used to clean the skin before injections are given, a roll of surgical tape and a box of latex gloves.

On the bedside table is Jacko's glasses case, a half-finished bottle of orange and some Fiji mineral water.

A string of prayer beads, commonly worn by Jackson, is on the bed.

And what looks like an incontinence pad lies on the mattress where the cover has been thrown back and some blue ribbon believed to have been used as a tourniquet. Medics would have tied it tightly around Jacko's arm to find a vein to inject drugs.

An unopened tube of toothpaste is also on the bed and a doll can be seen poking out from the duvet.

Oxygen tanks are understood to be just out of sight.

It is believed the King of Pop suffered from chronic insomnia and used the strong anaesthetic Propofol to help him sleep, which is always given with oxygen.

But other equipment deemed vital in administering Propofol was absent from the 50-year-old's bedroom - kit that reports suggest could have saved his life.

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La County Coroner Lieutenant Fred Corral confirmed: "That is the scene where Michael Jackson died."

Dr Murray has denied reports Jacko lay dead here at the LA mansion for more than two hours before paramedics were called. The 56-year-old has been accused of falling asleep after administering the lethal dose of Propofol.

But his legal aide Miranda Sevcik said: "Michael Jackson stopped breathing 30 minutes before emergency personnel were called out."

The cardiologist is at the centre of the probe, despite interest in six other doctors connected to the singer.

A law enforcement source said: "We're just focusing on Murray at this time."

Dr Murray also faced claims that two of his staff removed important items from a storage warehouse near his clinic in Houston, Texas, on the day of Jackson's death that could have been connected to the incident.

But Sevcik said: "We have nothing that we are hiding. There are two sides to every story. Dr Murray is getting hit with all these accusations but we have not been able to say anything."

He has been quizzed twice by cops and is due to be interviewed again.

It also emerged Jacko's toxicology reports have been further delayed because of conflicting drug test results.

Jacko's sister La Toya, 53, has penned a heartfelt tribute to her late brother.

In a blog on her official website titled "Mike, you will always be in my dreams!", the star wrote directly to him.

She said: "God has finally called you home to do what you do best.

"He shared your extraordinary talent with us all for many decades and now it's time for you to spread your wings to a much higher level, which of course I know you will do, and join the other angels and give them an incredible eternal performance. I LOVE YOU SO VERY! VERY! VERY! VERY! MUCH!" "
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 03:54:08 PM
the carolwood underground garage and not so obvious garage??

could this have helped, escape?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
NOTW
posts these pictures of the alleged post it notes

but so what if he did write them, it is an excellent way of remembering and learning.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 57090a.JPG (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00057/jacko_letters_1309_57090a.JPG)
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... 0%26um%3D1 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00057/jacko_letters_1309_57090a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/500267/Michael-Jackson-Im-a-magnet-for-miracles-Read-Jacko-messages.html&usg=__NH-f4KIP7yPhRWZc-I5Z02lLu3A=&h=394&w=516&sz=103&hl=en&start=273&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=J8OkdXETOFXL8M:&tbnh=100&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3D100%2Bcarolwood%2Bdrive%2Bmichael%2Bjackson%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADSA_enGB353GB353%26sa%3DN%26start%3D270%26um%3D1)

why did they not post the original post its?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 27, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Its a crime scene what are all these people doing,

how would anyone know the position of mj (not mj, only CM and the assistant were there?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: paula-c on January 27, 2010, 06:18:51 PM
In the message released by The Arabian Nights, is a photo on Which you can see the sagging mattress, as if someone had recently sat.
Alovesmichael wonders who took the photos ?,.... family, they were the ones who entered the house after the police ,...... Also if the police investigations in that house, why these photos were published and the police did not say anything? ;)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 27, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Aah... Rod Temperton. Yes Mike.. call him.  He is a good man.

expand please
x

Just that Rod Temperton is a good man, a humble man. He keeps himself out of the spotlight and isnt into all the razzamatazz.  I believe he was a good influence on Mike.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: alovesmichael on January 27, 2010, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
In the message released by The Arabian Nights, is a photo on Which you can see the sagging mattress, as if someone had recently sat.
Alovesmichael wonders who took the photos ?,.... family, they were the ones who entered the house after the police ,...... Also if the police investigations in that house, why these photos were published and the police did not say anything? ;)

Exactly, that's why it's highly questionable... The only thing I can't put my finger on is the purpose of the photos, i.e. if they're meant to work as a distraction? I mean there's no oxygen tubes, would that mean that someone wants to show that Murray's not doing his job properly? What purpose does the toothpaste serve? Do you guys know what I mean, if it's planted there then what for?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: paula-c on January 27, 2010, 06:44:13 PM
?,.... Toothpaste they put something ... I do not know, you have to go back and see everything that they said these days the media :mrgreen:
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: paula-c on January 27, 2010, 07:23:09 PM
! Bingo!, Tooth paste, read the blog de Souza & Mo, on fluorine poisoning. Maybe this whole scene of "death" is a message ;)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 28, 2010, 12:44:31 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
! Bingo!, Tooth paste, read the blog de Souza & Mo, on fluorine poisoning. Maybe this whole scene of "death" is a message ;)
can u post a link to the thread please i am very curious to explanding my knowlede about this tooth paste having anything to do with saving MJs life thank you :)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: paula-c on January 28, 2010, 07:52:34 AM
i_need YoU,
I did not want to say that toothpaste can kill or save the life of a person, Which is thought it might be a clue, why, what the hell does toothpaste in bed?, But you have to understand who read the blog right here on the forum, has the title   Debunking “Wacko Jacko” for once and for all! .    In that blog makes a very detailed explanation of what is fluoride and the side effects that can lead to health     :mrgreen:
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 28, 2010, 08:25:19 AM
I've never heard of Lt. Fred Corral who said the bedroom photo is real.  Weird...so this photo must have been taken after the  investigators were there because apparently there should be medication on the bedside tables. http://www.theinsider.com/news/2351423_ ... son_s_Home (http://www.theinsider.com/news/2351423_Coroner_Confiscates_Evidence_from_Michael_Jackson_s_Home)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 28, 2010, 03:22:38 PM
That deathbed pic is SO fake its not even funny.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 28, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
i_need YoU,
I did not want to say that toothpaste can kill or save the life of a person, Which is thought it might be a clue, why, what the hell does toothpaste in bed?, But you have to understand who read the blog right here on the forum, has the title   Debunking “Wacko Jacko” for once and for all! .    In that blog makes a very detailed explanation of what is fluoride and the side effects that can lead to health     :mrgreen:


I heard awhile back that MJ had a "thing" with oral hygiene...
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: See on January 28, 2010, 03:30:57 PM
Does anybody remember the water leak at the "crime scene".
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 28, 2010, 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: "See"
Does anybody remember the water leak at the "crime scene".


? sorry  :?:
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 28, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Yes I know!!! The water damage in the house!!!
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 28, 2010, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Yes I know!!! The water damage in the house!!!


Did I miss something?? Which Water Damage are you talking about?? :?  Sorry for asking
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: See on January 28, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Yes I know!!! The water damage in the house!!!


Did I miss something?? Which Water Damage are you talking about?? :?  Sorry for asking

Sorry cant find the artikle, but there was a water damage after the "death" of Michael somebody left the taps running... I think it was the first floor and no media coverd it but foxnews they had some pictures they said it was for insureance...as far as I can remember
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 28, 2010, 04:02:44 PM
I do not know where I the video can find....
MJs House was flooded (June)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: Kirsche on January 28, 2010, 04:04:32 PM
Oh okay, thank you very much... Never heard about that  :?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 28, 2010, 04:07:14 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
I do not know where I the video can find....
MJs House was flooded (June)

I remember reading about this but can't find it :?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 28, 2010, 04:14:12 PM
@AnnieIsNotOK
I am moved if I find again nothing  :x
Was it Hollywood TV??? I do not know (was on Youtube????) :?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 28, 2010, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
@AnnieIsNotOK
I am moved if I find again nothing  :x
Was it Hollywood TV??? I do not know (was on Youtube????) :?

Maybe a hoax video on youtube...I watched so many :shock:  :lol:  :lol: or on this forum???I'll check again... ;)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjj29081958 on January 28, 2010, 04:54:42 PM
There's a thread on this in the old mjkit, but the link to fox news is not working anymore.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 29, 2010, 09:32:38 AM
Quote from: "mjj29081958"
There's a thread on this in the old mjkit, but the link to fox news is not working anymore.


I remember that. I wondered why that would be of any significance. Why show water damage? And why from someone leaving the faucets on? And WHY would they leave them on?

Everything that has been reported...and I mean EVERYTHING...since he "died" has only been in the news for a day...maybe two and then we heard nothing more about it. Its almost like they are avoiding talking about it you know?
Anna Nicole Smith who died the same way...I got so sick of hearing about it. But thats not whats going on with MJ. We hear NOTHING about what progress theyve made, the bloody shirt etc....Its really weird. I know he is alive but youd think they would at least TRY and report stuff in the news!!
Strange..
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: mjj29081958 on January 29, 2010, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"


I remember that. I wondered why that would be of any significance. Why show water damage? And why from someone leaving the faucets on? And WHY would they leave them on?

Everything that has been reported...and I mean EVERYTHING...since he "died" has only been in the news for a day...maybe two and then we heard nothing more about it. Its almost like they are avoiding talking about it you know?
Anna Nicole Smith who died the same way...I got so sick of hearing about it. But thats not whats going on with MJ. We hear NOTHING about what progress theyve made, the bloody shirt etc....Its really weird. I know he is alive but youd think they would at least TRY and report stuff in the news!!
Strange..

Yes, I know. I wonder the same every time I go to mjkit looking for something, and randomly re-read some other threads, I realize that I already forgot lots of things because they just doesn't make sense (to me) and no one mentioned it again, like this water thing, no idea why they reported this... But you're right about the shirt, the deathbed, all of them were "one day" (tabloid) news.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: MDM77 on January 29, 2010, 10:28:28 AM
First time posting here.  I've been lurking and reading for awhile.

I saw people mention the toothpaste on the bed in that photo. I personally think the photo is planted or something, but if we look to the theories of NWO it has been said that they use fluoride to poison people. They add it to our water, in our toothpaste, etc.  I think this is mostly in the US as I've read that other countries (Say in EU, etc) have been opposed to fluoridation of their water as it is a chemical that can harm and there is no proof that it helps with tooth decay when ingested from water.

Perhaps this is what the toothpaste in the photo is hinting at. Just a thought! :)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 29, 2010, 10:52:05 AM
Quote from: "MDM77"
First time posting here.  I've been lurking and reading for awhile.

I saw people mention the toothpaste on the bed in that photo. I personally think the photo is planted or something, but if we look to the theories of NWO it has been said that they use fluoride to poison people. They add it to our water, in our toothpaste, etc.  I think this is mostly in the US as I've read that other countries (Say in EU, etc) have been opposed to fluoridation of their water as it is a chemical that can harm and there is no proof that it helps with tooth decay when ingested from water.

Perhaps this is what the toothpaste in the photo is hinting at. Just a thought! :)


Could be...but like I mentioned previously...I read a few places that MJ had a thing with oral hygiene....although Im not sure WHY the toothpaste was on the bed and not on the nightstand or even the counter in the bathroom.

I too think this a staged pic. Nothing in it shows any kind of "struggle" at all.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: MDM77 on January 29, 2010, 01:34:32 PM
Well he does have a beautiful smile. I bet he takes very good care of his teeth :)
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 29, 2010, 02:04:56 PM
I think the photo is staged as well....all in efforts to make it appear realistic (illusion).

Does anyone think, even a second, that the media is aware that MJ is alive but are not being allowed to report on any events?????  My question is "why?"  Jacksonologist brings up a good point (in above post) about this and the media.  Why is it the media can go on and on and report all the hype about other celebrities and really minimize any pertinent facts in relationship to the MJ case??????  And, why is this whole process in stall mode????  In this day and age, with technology as advanced as it is, things should not take as long to figure out or report. I suspect there is a huge reason for this and, to me, it indicates something much deeper and leads me right back to the hoax----which needs to be played out to a "T". If that is not the motive I want to get to the heart of this. Who is being protected? Is it MJ or someone else?????
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 29, 2010, 02:06:26 PM
the news of the world seem to have the scoop of the post it notes

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/50 ... sages.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/500267/Michael-Jackson-Im-a-magnet-for-miracles-Read-Jacko-messages.html)

"By Tom Latchem and James Desborough, 13/09/2009

MYSTERIOUS messages written by Michael Jackson in his final hours - revealed today for the first time - show the singer's bizarre state of mind before his drug addiction killed him.

The News of the World has uncovered a series of "wishes for the world" which were left on the mirror in the tragic star's cluttered bathroom.


On Post-its notes and sheets of paper, they were scribbled as the doomed 50-year-old star tried to focus his mind on the daunting London tour dates ahead through a drug-induced haze.


In one the dazed singer even had to remind himself to include one of his BIGGEST HITS in the concerts.


Friends believe he was using the messages to gee himself up for rehearsals in the week of his death.


One said: "These notes show that Michael was positive until the last - but also what a mess his mind must have been as he fought to keep it all together towards the end."


NOTE NUMBER ONE: Stuck on the right of his gold-framed mirror with wall-mounted chandeliers either side, it read:


"I am so grateful that I am a magnet for miracles."


Pals believe it shows that Jacko was already trying to seek help for his prescription drugs addiction.


The "magnet for miracles" phrase is used in US self-help programmes for recovering alcoholics to give them back self-esteem.


US author and talk show host Dr Joan Hangarter - who coined the phrase and wrote a book called The Miracle Makers Club - believes the more you say it to yourself the better your chances of making things go your way.


NOTE NUMBER TWO: Pinned to the bottom of the mirror where Jackson could see it as he made himself up, a message in large handwriting read: "Love, no violence ever!"


And underneath, in smaller handwriting, he had added:


"Remember a beautiful future promise of tomorrow."


A friend of Jacko told us: "I think this reveals how positive Michael was until the last. He was such a sweet natured man who saw the good in everyone.


"The note about a beautiful future is especially sad as it shows how he was looking forward to a successful, happy life."


NOTE NUMBER THREE: An astonishing reminder is stuck above the "beautiful future" message on a sticky yellow post-it. It reads:


"Do We Are The World in show".


That's - a reference to the smash-hit charity single he recorded with 60-year-old soul legend Lionel Ritchie in 1985.


NOTE NUMBER FOUR: "Call Temperton" is scrawled on a blue Post-it note - referring to British songwriter and producer Rod Temperton, 62, who co-wrote several Jackson songs including Thriller and Rock With You.


Also in the bathroom is a business card for his business manager Dr Tohme Tohme to remind him of his phone number.


Our source said the last two notes revealed Jackson's frail state of mind.


"It's worrying that he had to write reminders about things as obvious as these while he was rehearsing for his tour. And he would have had Dr Thome's number in his phone - so why would he need the card?" said the source.


"But the drugs he was taking obviously had a huge impact on his mind and memory."


Near the mirror lay drawings he had been sent by a fan. And to one side was his electric razor, still plugged in, near a vase of white flowers.


Post-it notes previously uncovered in his bedroom reflected Jacko's obsession with children. Stuck to a TV and an ornament by the bed, one read: "Children are sweet." Another said: "Children are innocent."


Near the bathroom is the guest bedroom where Jacko's personal physician Dr Conrad Murray spent up to 25 minutes trying to resuscitate him - first on the bed, then on the rug-covered wooden floor - after the star was taken ill.


The revelation of the notes follows our bombshell picture of Jacko on his deathbed at the rented mansion in North Carolwood Drive, Los Angeles.


The star was buried in Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, California, in an evening funeral for close family on September 3.


And we can reveal that his Neverland ranch is set to be be turned into a Graceland-style memorial to him - even without his body - while the rest of the 2,800 acre grounds are carved up into separate plots to build exclusive new homes.


Jacko's brother Jermaine is determined the plan should go ahead despite resistance from the rest of the family who want to ditch the place that was the scene of Jacko's child abuse cases.


Jermaine also hopes to have an eternal flame burning there - inspired by John F Kennedy's grave in Arlington Cemetery in Washington.


A source close to the Jacksons said: "Jermaine is not giving up on the Neverland idea. It will have to a lot smaller than the original idea of using the whole site for tourists.


"At the moment plans are on the table to sell off the ranch in plots, and turn them into a luxury community."


"In the past residents have sneered at a Graceland for Michael as the roads in the area are not equipped to cope with huge traffic loads.


But with this plan the roads would be built on the new amended plots, and tourists would be ferried into local towns like Los Olivios and Santa Maria."


Bitter Jermaine has been outspoken about his upset at Michael's burial in LA - not Neverland.


But he still hopes that the King of Pop could be reburied at Neverland one day. "
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 29, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
the news of the world seem to have the scoop of the post it notes

NOTE NUMBER ONE: Stuck on the right of his gold-framed mirror with wall-mounted chandeliers either side, it read:


"I am so grateful that I am a magnet for miracles."


Pals believe it shows that Jacko was already trying to seek help for his prescription drugs addiction.


The "magnet for miracles" phrase is used in US self-help programmes for recovering alcoholics to give them back self-esteem.


 "


Really? I am a recovering alcoholic and go to regular meetings and have NEVER heard that phrase before!
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 29, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
i wonder way there are no pics of the post it notes, only illustrations are available, is this fake?

the illustration of mj on the bed, who would have access and who would commission this illustration _ NOTW? Fake?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: ballongiraf on January 29, 2010, 02:38:13 PM
they seriously want us to beleive that frantic efforts to save Mj went on in that neat and perfectly clean room? Excuse me while i laugh......  :lol:

Ok, im done laughing. When i worked in the ER and we got cardiac arrest patients in, the room looked like WW3 had errupted......
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: paula-c on January 29, 2010, 02:50:16 PM
The person or persons who "seeded" all these things in the room want to give the impression that Michael was a drug addict and mentally ill, which differentiates man very lucid and very vitality that we saw in the film. This is what we want people to think I was very sick indeed :lol:
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 29, 2010, 03:54:27 PM
a closer look at the bedroom, but how was access achieved, who took the photo?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 29, 2010, 03:56:21 PM
the bedroom looks like a regular clean room, i thought they said that mike did not let any staff members in his room, can't see him getting the hoover out?

where is all the medical equipment, it does not look like a home hospital
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 30, 2010, 12:51:55 PM
Here a video with the water damage is in house MJs
A friend has found it
;)

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/page/331/
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 30, 2010, 01:49:28 PM
thanks that is an amazing find, and one of the pictures shows the garage
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 30, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
can i ask why you guys are mentioning the water damage, or is it just because it relates to the house and thus the crime scene?

xx
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 30, 2010, 01:53:01 PM
Quote from: "MDM77"
First time posting here.  I've been lurking and reading for awhile.

I saw people mention the toothpaste on the bed in that photo. I personally think the photo is planted or something, but if we look to the theories of NWO it has been said that they use fluoride to poison people. They add it to our water, in our toothpaste, etc.  I think this is mostly in the US as I've read that other countries (Say in EU, etc) have been opposed to fluoridation of their water as it is a chemical that can harm and there is no proof that it helps with tooth decay when ingested from water.

Perhaps this is what the toothpaste in the photo is hinting at. Just a thought! :)
welcome
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 30, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
Because the water damage was just also peculiar ............. in the scene  :?
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 30, 2010, 02:06:48 PM
was it just in the garage?

i think that this could be a possible escape route if mike was not in the ambulance, no one was looking at the garage round the corner, but at the front gates with the slow, slow emergency vehicle. not fact just a thought.

strange that anyone would take a photo of a wet path in a garage?

thanks for your help
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 30, 2010, 02:13:06 PM
I try to help only .... thanks
Yes it was also in the garage down....
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 30, 2010, 02:28:11 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Here a video with the water damage is in house MJs
A friend has found it
;)

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/page/331/

 I've read about it but it is the first time a see thoses videos!Thanks very much angelshadow :D
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: angelshadow on January 30, 2010, 02:30:19 PM
@AnnieIsNotOK
Very much with pleasure!!!
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: i_need YoU on January 31, 2010, 03:20:02 AM
you know they are making a good point. There was an underground garage...maybe the ambulance backing up so slowly was to provide a distraction? I mean hello an ambulance is backing out of MJs driveway everyone is going to be focused on that ambulance while MJ makes his needy exit in his hidden garage heehee like BATMAN!!

OK after typing that i realized i have gone crazy and should actually try to get some sleep lol
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on January 31, 2010, 03:34:05 AM
your not going crazy, we need as a team to look at every bit of information take it seriously, turn it inside out and then if the view is that it is a red herring, move on to the next bit, what we are left with will be the truth.
Title: Re: the crime scene
Post by: the arabian nights on February 04, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
what was found at the home

[youtube:25ixp85q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk4HUaiQ-aI&feature=related[/youtube:25ixp85q]
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