Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => The Death Certificate, The Autopsy Report & The Will => After June 25, 2009 => The Coroner and Autopsy Report => Topic started by: alive on November 28, 2009, 10:17:10 PM

Title: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 28, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
[youtube:3hkeh96z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PbR_mD1gMI[/youtube:3hkeh96z]



[youtube:3hkeh96z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3e5w4OMbk[/youtube:3hkeh96z]
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 28, 2009, 10:19:02 PM
Is it graphic :(
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 28, 2009, 10:24:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQ4qNb0b-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQ4qNb0b-U)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 28, 2009, 10:31:39 PM
can't look at this.  I'll read the posts.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 28, 2009, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Is it graphic :(


No LOL
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: doreentbird on November 28, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
WE DONT WANT TO SEE THIS VIDEO,.,,OR PICTURES. PEDDLE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE :evil:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: mjssoulmate on November 28, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 28, 2009, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
WE DONT WANT TO SEE THIS VIDEO,.,,OR PICTURES. PEDDLE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE :evil:

Excuse me but this is the autposy thread so if you don't want to investigate this topic don't come to this thread.  The autopsy is part of this case.  :x
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 28, 2009, 11:07:49 PM
Could you please summarize the content of the videos..I really don't want to look but I would like to know what they are about.  Is it anything to worry about or just another fake? :shock:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 28, 2009, 11:37:05 PM
Ok, the videos are not graphic, you can view them, but he is saying that he has a 45 min video of MJ's autopsy that was given to him by a friend of his in Britain that works for a British tabloid that is in possession of the tape. They are waiting until the investgation is done and charges are filed before releasing it so this guy tried to put it on youtube and it was taken down 20 mins later and he was notified by youtube and given a number to call and it was the FBI who wanted to know how he got this and he was told not to try and post it again or he would be arrested for interfering with an investiagtion but once charges have been filed all evidence becomes public record and then he wouldn't be arrested. So, that's it.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: nellyka7 on November 28, 2009, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: "alive"
Ok, the videos are not graphic, you can view them, but he is saying that he has a 45 min video of MJ's autopsy that was given to him by a friend of his in Britain that works for a British tabloid that is in possession of the tape. They are waiting until the investgation is done and charges are filed before releasing it so this guy tried to put it on youtube and it was taken down 20 mins later and he was notified by youtube and given a number to call and it was the FBI who wanted to know how he got this and he was told not to try and post it again or he would be arrested for interfering with an investiagtion but once charges have been filed all evidence becomes public record and then he wouldn't be arrested. So, that's it.

oh wow. i think the CIA and everyone are in on it. just like susij's video was not able to be posted and her accounts were deleted. and who else knows how to delete tweets- no one i have talked to does..
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 28, 2009, 11:56:16 PM
Ok, thanks for posting a summary. The guy can say anything about the FBI or whatever...but it has to be fake because, as we all know, Michael Jackson is alive. ;)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: CC on November 29, 2009, 01:25:48 AM
Quote from: "Jade Jackson"
Ok, thanks for posting a summary. The guy can say anything about the FBI or whatever...but it has to be fake because, as we all know, Michael Jackson is alive. ;)

i'm with jade! he's alive, so...
and this guy is a total idiot... the FBI CIA DEA... if he have something ilegal he can't do this video... is an total idiot!!! nobody should look his videos...
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Crescendo on November 29, 2009, 01:33:56 AM
he could possibly just want his 15 min of fame and what better way than to appeal to Mj fans who are in mourning and curious about such things as this.
one should be careful when puttin a video on youtube, they could end up being famous :roll:  remeber the Chris Brown wedding dance :roll:

so i wouldnt believe much of what this guy has to say. though i didnt hear it i just read the summary.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 02:13:05 AM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
he could possibly just want his 15 min of fame and what better way than to appeal to Mj fans who are in mourning and curious about such things as this.
one should be careful when puttin a video on youtube, they could end up being famous :roll:  remeber the Chris Brown wedding dance :roll:

so i wouldnt believe much of what this guy has to say. though i didnt hear it i just read the summary.

Haha! Can you actually imagine this is exactly what happened to this guy! He tried to play with people's emotions and he got called out by the FBI...

 agree with Jade there can't be a video of an autopsy because Michael is simply ALIVE!!! ;) Thanks for posting the videos here Alive.


I had to add this I for got the most important part!!! WTH would pay the $2.00 to watch a fake video...sorry real or not I am not paying $2.00 not much money at all is just the principle behind it in my opinion! :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 02:28:31 AM
He's now posted this photo. I'm sure it's probably fake, but it turns my stomach just thinking it could be real....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUd ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUdoZk&feature=channel)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: DawnMarie1121 on November 29, 2009, 02:33:00 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
He's now posted this photo. I'm sure it's probably fake, but it turns my stomach just thinking it could be real....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUd ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUdoZk&feature=channel)

Did you see the photo?  I can't look..........
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 02:35:50 AM
Yes, and I think it's going to haunt me forever. :(
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 02:38:24 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
He's now posted this photo. I'm sure it's probably fake, but it turns my stomach just thinking it could be real....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUd ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUdoZk&feature=channel)


WTH??? It was done on footage? sorry if I am having a moment here but what does that even mean? Also very convenient how he stresses out the fact it's not best quality because it was done from a web...audio gets cut out!

I agree with you it is probably a fake! It makes my stomach turn thinking people can do these things only to get attention! :x
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 02:39:52 AM
I wasn't listening all that closely, but I think he said he took a still photo from the video he has with his webcam.  It looks real though, and I feel really sick now.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: DawnMarie1121 on November 29, 2009, 02:42:18 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Yes, and I think it's going to haunt me forever. :(

Please tell me it wasn't Michael.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 02:47:01 AM
Quote from: "DawnMarie1121"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Yes, and I think it's going to haunt me forever. :(

Please tell me it wasn't Michael.

Well it's definitely a photo of Michael, but I can only hope it was taken in a different context or was photoshopped or something.  It's just sickening to see something like that, even if I knew for sure it was fake.  I really wish I didn't look.  I hope someone else will be able to find a matching photo they've taken it from so I can get the image out of my head.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 02:53:48 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I wasn't listening all that closely, but I think he said he took a still photo from the video he has with his webcam.  It looks real though, and I feel really sick now.

Whenever I see these kind of videos or pics. I always remember what Ed Winters said, about it being impossible for anyone to get a hold of any MJ related autopsy pics or videos. I think this may just be another person who knows how to edit pics. Just my opinion...

I honestly think there are too many inconsistencies for a schmuck with a cam and editing tools to try and bring my spirits down! I can 't force you to not believe it but I would like you to remember how easy it is to fake a pic...Remember the Ambulance pic and how it was believe to have been edited from a picture of MJ laying down on the floor? This could very well be the case. :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 03:00:17 AM
You're probably right Banessa, thanks.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: DawnMarie1121 on November 29, 2009, 03:01:12 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Quote from: "DawnMarie1121"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Yes, and I think it's going to haunt me forever. :(

Please tell me it wasn't Michael.

Well it's definitely a photo of Michael, but I can only hope it was taken in a different context or was photoshopped or something.  It's just sickening to see something like that, even if I knew for sure it was fake.  I really wish I didn't look.  I hope someone else will be able to find a matching photo they've taken it from so I can get the image out of my head.

It has to be photoshopped.  I mean, there's so much evidence that Michael faked his death, someone must have created the photo you saw.  I wish I was brave enough to look, but I can't view stuff like this.  It really messes with my head - I don't watch anything with violence in it - and even got rid of my TV.  

I'm sorry you're having a hard time after seeing something so utterly disturbing.  If I was half as strong as you I would look at the photo myself and then commiserate with you properly, but I just can't seem to make myself click onto it.  

I'm sure someone on here will be able to find the original photo of Mike, proving that it was photoshopped.  We have lots of really good detectives on this site.  They'll get to the bottom of it.  Until then, we just have to keep remembering all of the evidence and clues that Mike has left us.

If it's any consolation, I'm sorry you looked, too.  :(
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: NYMoonwalker on November 29, 2009, 03:03:40 AM
I was so scared to open this link..I actually started crying. But I figured I would rather know the truth than keep living a lie. That picture is definitely MJ BUT to me it looks like its from another time. MJ didn't look like that recently. Especially not in This Is It. It actually reminds me of stranger in Moscow. I don't believe this at all.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 03:07:11 AM
Thanks DawnMarie...very sweet of you to say that.

NYMoonwalker, I was thinking that it looked like an earlier time as well, but wasn't sure.  Thanks for putting my mind at ease.

Edit:  I just realized something...he doesn't seem to have a dimple in his chin in the photo!  He had a huge one at the O2 and TII.  Omg I suddenly feel a billion times better now. :D
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 03:21:36 AM
Quote from: "NYMoonwalker"
I was so scared to open this link..I actually started crying. But I figured I would rather know the truth than keep living a lie. That picture is definitely MJ BUT to me it looks like its from another time. MJ didn't look like that recently. Especially not in This Is It. It actually reminds me of stranger in Moscow. I don't believe this at all.

Thank you!!! Stranger in Moscow and Give in to me...those are the video images which came to mind when I saw it! You're right, recently he didn't look like that at all. :D

Here is the Give in to me Picture it reminded to! ;)

(http://http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m287/blueabbie/MichaelJacksonGiveItToMe.jpg)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: NYMoonwalker on November 29, 2009, 03:24:59 AM
@ILuvUMoreMJ  @Banessa Nooo problem  ;)

See? There ya go! We have to keep the faith! I hate this dude for trying to trick people. What a cruel, morbid, and sadistic thing to do. To me, trying to inflict pain on innocent people, is just plain evil. I am going to send him a nice comment on this bullsh!t video  :evil:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Scream on November 29, 2009, 03:34:23 AM
That 'footage' of him isn't real and I can prove it, it's clear that he's taken a photo or a clip of him from 15 years-ago to make sure he doesn't lose subscribers because that's the only kind of attention he's capable of getting in his life and it's pathetic, don't take notice of him, he isn't worth the drama.

His face in that 'footage' is an exact match of him during the filming of his 'Stranger In Moscow' short-film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmF ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmFfZU&feature=related)

Enjoy (:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: MJonmind on November 29, 2009, 03:36:06 AM
That pic was hilarious. It didn't look recent. And I've never yet seen a dead body where they have the mouth partly open, never. Looked like he was singing with his eyes shut for a second.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 03:37:06 AM
Quote from: "NYMoonwalker"
@ILuvUMoreMJ  @Banessa Nooo problem  ;)

See? There ya go! We have to keep the faith! I hate this dude for trying to trick people. What a cruel, morbid, and sadistic thing to do. To me, trying to inflict pain on innocent people, is just plain evil. I am going to send him a nice comment on this bullsh!t video  :evil:

Hahaha! I was drinking some soda and your comment about it being a "bullsh!t video" made me laugh so bad I almost choked!  :lol:  :lol:

You're right is disgusting to see how some people don't care and actually find it amusing to hurt others! Very sad!!!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Banessa on November 29, 2009, 03:41:43 AM
Quote from: "Scream"
That 'footage' of him isn't real and I can prove it, it's clear that he's taken a photo or a clip of him from 15 years-ago to make sure he doesn't lose subscribers because that's the only kind of attention he's capable of getting in his life and it's pathetic, don't take notice of him, he isn't worth the drama.

His face in that 'footage' is an exact match of him during the filming of his 'Stranger In Moscow' short-film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmF ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmFfZU&feature=related)

Enjoy (:

Hahaha I think we may have just debunked this guy not only with some great ideas from where the pic came from but with a video and Picture!!! Great work you guys!!!  (http://http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy110.gif) (http://http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Elibri on November 29, 2009, 03:49:44 AM
Quote from: "Banessa"
Quote from: "Scream"
That 'footage' of him isn't real and I can prove it, it's clear that he's taken a photo or a clip of him from 15 years-ago to make sure he doesn't lose subscribers because that's the only kind of attention he's capable of getting in his life and it's pathetic, don't take notice of him, he isn't worth the drama.

His face in that 'footage' is an exact match of him during the filming of his 'Stranger In Moscow' short-film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmF ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPSCijmFfZU&feature=related)

Enjoy (:

Hahaha I think we may have just debunked this guy not only with some great ideas from where the pic came from but with a video and Picture!!! Great work you guys!!!  (http://http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-happy110.gif) (http://http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Yes, you're right, at 2:06 you can see the same face as in the picture...good investigation !
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 29, 2009, 05:39:24 AM
the mans a headcase a bloody nutter and he wants us to pay i no what id willingly pay for A HIT MAN :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: lisap27 on November 29, 2009, 08:19:34 AM
gotta admit i was freaked out there for a second!! looking at that pic!!

but everything is off about it!! i mean todays technology an the quality of that pic is so naff!! obviously as you said taken off a video!!

GO GIRLS!! thats all i can say.. :) woo
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 08:59:06 AM
I pray you are right guys, but one thing bothers me....why is his upperlip half swollen on one side?  :?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 09:00:16 AM
Quote from: "lisap27"
gotta admit i was freaked out there for a second!! looking at that pic!!

but everything is off about it!! i mean todays technology an the quality of that pic is so naff!! obviously as you said taken off a video!!

GO GIRLS!! thats all i can say.. :) woo
He said it is from a video of autopsy not pics
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: angelshadow on November 29, 2009, 09:15:18 AM
[quote = "ILuvUMoreMJ"] Er ist jetzt veröffentlicht dieses Foto. Ich bin sicher, es ist wahrscheinlich gefälscht, aber es stellt sich mein Magen nur dachte, es könnte wirklich sein ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUd ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWJgEsUdoZk&feature=channel) [/ quote]


Frightfully these people, to me became bad....
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alexa7 on November 29, 2009, 09:47:55 AM
That guy is a MONSTER I already emailed him about a photograph he put on of a "dead" Michael and he apologised (which I didn't accept) he's a cruel cruel faker.. :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: angelshadow on November 29, 2009, 10:02:06 AM
[quote = "alexa7"] Der Typ ist ein Monster, das ich bereits per E-Mail ihm über eine Fotografie legte er eine "tote" Michael und er entschuldigt sich (die ich nicht akzeptieren), er ist ein grausamer grausame faker .. : evil:: evil: [/ quote]

Awful guy :!:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: lisap27 on November 29, 2009, 10:04:59 AM
Quote from: "alive"
Quote from: "lisap27"
gotta admit i was freaked out there for a second!! looking at that pic!!

but everything is off about it!! i mean todays technology an the quality of that pic is so naff!! obviously as you said taken off a video!!

GO GIRLS!! thats all i can say.. :) woo
He said it is from a video of autopsy not pics

oh right oooppss!! must have missed that bit!!

still doesn't look like a dead person (MJ) to me.. i'd rather think it was a still of the S.I.M video

unitl we get something offical i'm gunna got with me gut an think its not real.. call it denial or whatever.. but there's to many cruel / sick people out there!! IMO
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: lisap27 on November 29, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: "alexa7"
That guy is a MONSTER I already emailed him about a photograph he put on of a "dead" Michael and he apologised (which I didn't accept) he's a cruel cruel faker.. :evil:  :evil:

did he say it was FAKE?????
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 29, 2009, 10:13:05 AM
why do the freaks come out on sunday :evil:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: angelshadow on November 29, 2009, 10:14:31 AM
[quote = "SPAKKLE29FUL"] warum die Freaks kommen am Sonntag: evil: [/ quote]


Yes, condemns ....... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 10:37:39 AM
Where the heck is MJ's family on this? I mean if its real (probably not) or the authorities?

1....if real  how can he get away with this?

2....if fake  doesn't this break some kinda law ...fraud something?

He flashes a police badge and keeps saying I know what I'm doing people...WTH!!!!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: angelshadow on November 29, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
Yes one believes the family something nobody would have to undertake, however something acts....
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 29, 2009, 11:07:07 AM
that  man makes me vomit ,he needs to see a head doctor and then he can feel my boot up his  :lol:  :lol:
use your imagination :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Crescendo on November 29, 2009, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Quote from: "DawnMarie1121"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
Yes, and I think it's going to haunt me forever. :(

Please tell me it wasn't Michael.

Well it's definitely a photo of Michael, but I can only hope it was taken in a different context or was photoshopped or something.  It's just sickening to see something like that, even if I knew for sure it was fake.  I really wish I didn't look.  I hope someone else will be able to find a matching photo they've taken it from so I can get the image out of my head.


omg yall that pic was so fake. he looked like he did back in the Dangerous era. yall Im positive its fake. theres nothing around the head that signals an autopsy table and here recently Michael's nose was a little smaller.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 29, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: "Banessa"
Quote from: "NYMoonwalker"
I was so scared to open this link..I actually started crying. But I figured I would rather know the truth than keep living a lie. That picture is definitely MJ BUT to me it looks like its from another time. MJ didn't look like that recently. Especially not in This Is It. It actually reminds me of stranger in Moscow. I don't believe this at all.

Thank you!!! Stranger in Moscow and Give in to me...those are the video images which came to mind when I saw it! You're right, recently he didn't look like that at all. :D

Here is the Give in to me Picture it reminded to! ;)

(http://http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m287/blueabbie/MichaelJacksonGiveItToMe.jpg)

Exactly!!!! At first I was hesitating and I didn't want to see the video, but then I watched it... And it made me think of SIM immediately  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ForeverAutumn65 on November 29, 2009, 03:49:38 PM
I've known about this guy and his claims for a few months now. Figured he was full of sh*t, so I didn't give it much thought. He's certainly just looking for attention and views. IF there was a video, why the heck would this creep have it to begin with. He is full of sh*t...no doubt.

Agree with the pic looking like a still from S.I. M.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alexa7 on November 29, 2009, 03:55:20 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "alexa7"
That guy is a MONSTER I already emailed him about a photograph he put on of a "dead" Michael and he apologised (which I didn't accept) he's a cruel cruel faker.. :evil:  :evil:

did he say it was FAKE?????

Not in so many words but he did this huge build up (I subscribed to him) about should he post it, should he not, then he did and BELIEVE ME it was totally a fake, it was horrible but NO WAY Michael, so I mailed him that he shouldn't have done that and he mailed back "sorry" I think this was his way of saying, yes fake - he also asked me to re-subscribe (yeah right..).  Either way this guy is a complete phoney f**ker who shouldn't be encouraged.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Loes on November 29, 2009, 04:04:50 PM
I can't listen to that creep's bullshit, but I saw the photo and it's Michael, but he is very much alive there!
It's indeed just a picture from years ago.

I wish that fat ugly man was laying on the autopsy table ...  :evil:

(http://http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: mjj29081958 on November 29, 2009, 04:09:28 PM
Just another guy in the "sick atention-seekers" line...   :roll:  *sighs*
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: OneStepCloser on November 29, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
LMFAOOO IM ACTUALLY LAUGHING SO HARD RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 29, 2009, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: "alive"
[youtube:1f272dyc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PbR_mD1gMI[/youtube:1f272dyc]



[youtube:1f272dyc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3e5w4OMbk[/youtube:1f272dyc]

OMG.  The CIA should be flogging his ass :evil:   Why is he smiling and so gleeful about Michael Jackson autopsy photos?  And now he is going to charge people to see it.  This is scandalous and insensitive.  Why would anyone who has to pay a fee to see something (not for the viewing public) believe that it is authentic?  If it is authentic and releasable, as he stated, it will be released in due time.  I would vouch to wait and see because what is probably going to be sold is a bunch of hogwash.  I cannot believe this. First because there are no valid autopsy reports because, secondly Michael is not dead, duh!   I'll say  this though, facts are often released to the public after a case is closed.  But an autopsy feed or picture or whatever, is NEVER supposed to made public.  That is a violation of the HIPPA ACT.  People are going to go to jail, especially if he has some kinda tracking with people paying him.  This is ludicrous.!  Talk about CIA activity.  I do not for one minute believe this person whom he knows is so willing to allow him to post this after having been warned.  Loss of job.  Time served in prison, etc.  Don't believe the hype.  Why would he risk all of that?  Certainly the police would know from whence it came.  And who would really want to see that?  Heaven forbid.  Isn't anything sacred?  If this happens, I hope Katherine Jackson or the family legal team or whom ever, jacks these looneys up and throw away the keys. What are we becoming as human beings to WANT to see something like that of someone we love?  OMG :cry:  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Missyb007 on November 29, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
(http://http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4039/blablado.jpg)

Right picture is "autopsy" picture.. left is from S.I.M. does look alike.. not entierly the same but I bet there are other pictures on the net of the making off stranger in moscow, the swollen lip can be made with photoshop ;).. just copy and paste a part of the upperlip and tadaa ;)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 29, 2009, 06:32:51 PM
im gonna flag that bitch again this time for impersonating a human :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: OneStepCloser on November 29, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
SAME
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 07:48:02 PM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
(http://http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4039/blablado.jpg)

Right picture is "autopsy" picture.. left is from S.I.M. does look alike.. not entierly the same but I bet there are other pictures on the net of the making off stranger in moscow, the swollen lip can be made with photoshop ;).. just copy and paste a part of the upperlip and tadaa ;)
I don't know, I'm starting to question if this is for real.....you can see he has no hair just a short covering on his head and the swollen lip with abrasion on the corner of the mouth which would be caused by the tube and his lips are grey and his eyes are slightly open like Latoya said.  I just don't know....  he looks older than the stranger in moscow video....its been taken down now so I guess I'll see what this f*****g a*****e does next...I don't feel so good right now....I wish I didn't see this....now I'm on that rollercoaster and I want to get off.....This can't be real right?  I mean this guys a** would be in jail. He should be, that's for sure!!!!!  :(
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: OneStepCloser on November 29, 2009, 07:54:22 PM
IMO, this is BS. I mean come on! Look, it could be a pic from any time, an unseen one?
Lets go as far to say that its a staged picture?
Lets get a GRIP, this lousy picture is nothing to lose faith over.
One pic VS 100's of pieces of evidence? Um yeah ok.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 07:58:10 PM
I still feel sick seeing that photo, but his face was much more gaunt looking in TII, and there is no dimple in his chin.  It was a very deep dimple the last we saw him.  I'm still believing this is fake.  It is disgusting someone posted it like that though.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
I don't know...I'm just not 100% that this one is fake like I am about the other ones that we have come across and that's why its bothering me...the others were obviously fake to me but this one leaves doubts and I don't like that....
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: icy55 on November 29, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I still feel sick seeing that photo, but his face was much more gaunt looking in TII, and there is no dimple in his chin.  It was a very deep dimple the last we saw him.  I'm still believing this is fake.  It is disgusting someone posted it like that though.

Graphic it must be... =(
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 29, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: "alive"
I don't know...I'm just not 100% that this one is fake like I am about the other ones that we have come across and that's why its bothering me...the others were obviously fake to me but this one leaves doubts and I don't like that....

I'm actually surprised that more realistic looking autopsy photos haven't made their rounds yet.  Yes it looks like it could be real, and that is obviously the point, but take a look at this photo of MJ at O2... http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/a/0/6/ ... s_4ccd.jpg (http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/a/0/6/2/PicImg_Michael_Jackson_Announces_4ccd.jpg)  His chin almost looks like it has a very deep slice in it.  It's no where to be seen in the supposed autopsy photo.  And besides, where would this loser get the video from anyway?  He doesn't seem credible at all.  It freaked me out at first, but I really don't think it is real at all.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
He claims he got it from a friend of his in britain who works for a certain british tabloid that has the video and made a copy of it for him  sounds like bs  I know but it still bothers me
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 08:29:46 PM
He claims he got it from a friend of his in britain who works for a certain british tabloid that has the video and made a copy of it for him  sounds like bs  I know but it still bothers me

sorry for the double post :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: mehere on November 29, 2009, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: "nellyka7"
Quote from: "alive"
Ok, the videos are not graphic, you can view them, but he is saying that he has a 45 min video of MJ's autopsy that was given to him by a friend of his in Britain that works for a British tabloid that is in possession of the tape. They are waiting until the investgation is done and charges are filed before releasing it so this guy tried to put it on youtube and it was taken down 20 mins later and he was notified by youtube and given a number to call and it was the FBI who wanted to know how he got this and he was told not to try and post it again or he would be arrested for interfering with an investiagtion but once charges have been filed all evidence becomes public record and then he wouldn't be arrested. So, that's it.

oh wow. i think the CIA and everyone are in on it. just like susij's video was not able to be posted and her accounts were deleted. and who else knows how to delete tweets- no one i have talked to does..

So do you think that Michael was in danger?  Meang in harms way?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: icy55 on November 29, 2009, 09:13:46 PM
Sorry guys, but I didnt get to see the 'autopsy photo' before it was taken down by the user, anyone happen to have it?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 29, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
Quote from: "alive"
Quote from: "Missyb007"
(http://http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4039/blablado.jpg)

Right picture is "autopsy" picture.. left is from S.I.M. does look alike.. not entierly the same but I bet there are other pictures on the net of the making off stranger in moscow, the swollen lip can be made with photoshop ;).. just copy and paste a part of the upperlip and tadaa ;)
I don't know, I'm starting to question if this is for real.....you can see he has no hair just a short covering on his head and the swollen lip with abrasion on the corner of the mouth which would be caused by the tube and his lips are grey and his eyes are slightly open like Latoya said.  I just don't know....  he looks older than the stranger in moscow video....its been taken down now so I guess I'll see what this f*****g a*****e does next...I don't feel so good right now....I wish I didn't see this....now I'm on that rollercoaster and I want to get off.....This can't be real right?  I mean this guys a** would be in jail. He should be, that's for sure!!!!!  :(
 The one on the right is it
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: CC on November 29, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
BTW, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE GUY IN THE AMBULANCE... IF THIS IS MJ WHO IS THE GUY IN THE AMBULANCE?  :?  ;)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 29, 2009, 11:09:40 PM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
(http://http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4039/blablado.jpg)

Right picture is "autopsy" picture.. left is from S.I.M. does look alike.. not entierly the same but I bet there are other pictures on the net of the making off stranger in moscow, the swollen lip can be made with photoshop ;).. just copy and paste a part of the upperlip and tadaa ;)

This is SO not a dead person.  I have seen a dead person, unfortunately, and when the life force leaves a person they look nothing like they looked in life...maybe once they are prettied up by a mortician....but not post or even pre-autopsy.  Maybe Michael did have a slightly swollen lip at one time..he did get injections in his lips didn't he..or at least I would think he did.  During the so-called medical emergency I don't recall reading that MJ was said to have been intubated...Also, I don't believe the mouth is open in an autopsy...I think the lips are often sewn shut at some point.

Anyway, I am really glad the picture was posted here because I was really afraid to look.  Now that I have seen it, I am totally convinced it is NOT an autopsy photo.  For one thing, I can still see life force energy in the photo,  I am sure that it is of course MJ, but definitely not a dead MJ so no one should have any worries at all.  It could, however, be a sleeping MJ.  I am going to have a photo expert look at it...she is a fan, so I hope it doesn't freak her out.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: icy55 on November 29, 2009, 11:19:56 PM
How about this? MJ has swollen lips here =(

(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/michael-jackson-this-is-it%28424%29-m-2.jpg
)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 29, 2009, 11:39:08 PM
Quote from: "icy55"
How about this? MJ has swollen lips here =(

(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/michael-jackson-this-is-it%28424%29-m-2.jpg
)

I couldn't click on your link.  Could you please try posting it again?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: badkolo on November 29, 2009, 11:46:01 PM
Girls and guys calm down and relax, there is a way to explain this away.
He said people saw the video, NO ONE HAS COME OUT TO SAY THEY DID.
And if you look closely you can see a shadow on the side where it looks to be cut out, that pic is totally photoshopped, stretch the pic and look and you can clearly see it, then he took a pic from a screen to make it even harder to notice, he tried to make it look authentic by making it hard to tell.

If he really had the video he would just release it others to share, because AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART, HE ALREADY CLAIMED THAT HE RELEASED IT FOR FREE BECAUSE PEOPLE ASKED FOR IT, SO  WHY CHARGE NOW. IF HE WANTED TO SHARE IT BEFORE IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY TAKEN DOWN THEN HE WOULD JUST GIVE IT OTHERS WHO ASK FOR IT BUT HE HASNT.

FAKE, just look, its photoshopped then he used a camera to take a pic to make it look like if its real.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 29, 2009, 11:47:05 PM
OK...my friend, who is an MJ photo expert and even has a blog devoted to MJ photos, and who also is a huge fan and not a hoax believer (although she does have an open mind) says this photo is definitely not, in her opinion, a current picture of MJ, therefore it cannot be an autopsy photo.  She mentions the chin cleft not being there and also says the eyebrows are not thick enough.  She is a very reasonable balanced person  and if she says it's not an autopsy photo, then it's not.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Scream on November 30, 2009, 02:58:50 AM
I commented him yesterday on YouTube telling him that I know where he got that image of Michael from and you know what?

I looked at his comments a couple of hours later and he had deleted mine!

Case closed.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: NYMoonwalker on November 30, 2009, 03:34:30 AM
It's bothering me that some people still think this might be real. Please guys, don't let this idiot hurt you! First of all, look at the source! That should be more than enough. Do you really think if someone in the British media had their hands on this video we wouldn't have seen it already? And why would this guy have it? If the Brits didn't post it or report it because of laws & what not...well then, WTH is this guy doing? Why isn't he scared to do it? And since when has the media ever cared about laws? All they see is $$$ and a video/pic like that would sell for ridiculous amounts. #2 - Look at the picture well. Does that really look like the recent Michael? I put a couple of pictures together to make a comparison. It's pretty sloppy but it gets my point across :

(http://http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7082/comparison1.th.jpg) (http://http://img689.imageshack.us/i/comparison1.jpg/)


Compare everything. Look at the eyebrows. They were much thicker recently. Mike's nose had changed some more recently also. Doesn't look like the one in the autopsy pic, now does it? The chin is obviously different. The cleft is not there meanwhile it is visible in every single 2009 picture. Overall, it does not look like our recent Michael.

I think it's safe to say the autopsy picture is from another era. I would say its from the Stranger in Moscow video, a video still or another picture from that video shoot. If not, then it is definitely from the History era. The autopsy picture is obviously photoshopped. There is a reason for the terrible quality..a very obvious one. Please guys, don't give this guy the attention he wants. He is a disturbed lowlife that will get his butt kicked by karma. I hope this helps a bit.

DON'T STOP BELIEVING!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 30, 2009, 05:10:30 AM
Yes it's FAKE, look at his hair etc, you can see clearly that he worked on it!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: *Mo* on November 30, 2009, 05:57:26 AM
Aren't we on a HOAX forum here..?  

Michael did NOT DIE, there wasn't an autopsy performed on his body because there IS NO BODY, so every autopsy picture of video is FAKE by definition!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: dyanne on November 30, 2009, 06:08:35 AM
I think that even if we are on a hoax forum we owe to ourselves to look at everything and analyze everything. And as far as this picture is concerned, to prove it is a fake. I know I'm looking into every piece of "evidence" that comes out, at least to reinforce my believe that he is alive.

Anyway, I've downloaded also the pictures we are talking about on the other thread. there's nothing there
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 30, 2009, 06:12:53 AM
I am relieved now guys.....here it is...swollen lip and all...explains why my comment about it being from stranger in moscow video was not approved by this a*****e ...its offically debunked.


_____________




________
This video is made from a still shot taken from the making of stranger in moscow video


If you stop the video at around 0:32. Take a screen shot and turn it on it's side and crop it. Voila! you have the alleged autopsy photo!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: alive on November 30, 2009, 06:13:54 AM
crap...didn't show up...maybe someone can try it stop at 32 sec ...turn to side...its the exact same picture
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: dyanne on November 30, 2009, 07:03:31 AM
You are right! See below. I am sorry for the quality, at this point I can only use Paint to do such things because I am using a small notebook and don't have Photoshop installed.
But anyone can do this. Just stop at 0:32 and compare. The shadows are right, the angles... everything

(http://http://i49.tinypic.com/qyabuv.jpg)

(http://http://i50.tinypic.com/155324l.jpg)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ForeverAutumn65 on November 30, 2009, 07:18:46 AM
Quote from: "alive"
crap...didn't show up...maybe someone can try it stop at 32 sec ...turn to side...its the exact same picture

You are correct! It's the EXACT same picture. This guy is so BUSTED!  He's scamming people $2.00 at a time. I don't know how to post the pictures. I didn't get a screen cap. Just stopped the video 32 seconds in. You can see it without even having the pics side by side. Great find! Wonder what his excuse for this is going to be? What a lying piece of sh@t he is!

* see post above*
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: lisap27 on November 30, 2009, 08:48:18 AM
WELL DONE GUYS!! another 1 de-bunked!!

again you never sease to amaze me.. :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 30, 2009, 09:54:47 AM
You investigators are amazing.  Thank you so much!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Loes on November 30, 2009, 01:24:58 PM
This is really great!!

Thanks so much for the proof.
We can all put this trash behind us now ...  :P

(http://http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: MJFOREVER on November 30, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
hahahah what a LOSERRRRRRR :lol:

PEOPLE WHY DO YOU BELIEVE STORY's like this huh????
1. IF a autopsy picture/video would leak(never gonna happen) you really think a yt attention seeker got the first images??? hahaha THINK PLEASE
2. IF he or anybody else would post picture or a video his @ss would be SUED like crazy :roll:

DONT LET THESE LOSERE FOOL YOU PLEASE :roll:  ;)

KEEP THE FAITHHHHHHHHH :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on November 30, 2009, 02:03:05 PM
Good work finding the match!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 30, 2009, 02:25:37 PM
This is great, I knew I've seen that so called autopsy pic before  ;)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: angelshadow on November 30, 2009, 02:36:27 PM
Thanks fantastically this is cleared   :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 30, 2009, 11:10:13 PM
But WTF is this?  Check out this thread from MJHD.  There is now a book out about the autopsy.  I need to find a review of it.  We are going to have to debunk this one too...it is just so creepy that someone would write a book like this..and that someone would publish it.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/ ... =18&t=1737 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1737)  :shock:

I know MJ is alive..but how do people get away with selling false information..isn't that against the law?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Jade Jackson on November 30, 2009, 11:18:59 PM
Here is a short review of the book:

http://www.prlog.org/10304252-michael-j ... icide.html (http://www.prlog.org/10304252-michael-jackson-the-autopsy-is-in-it-was-homicide.html)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Crescendo on December 01, 2009, 12:39:11 AM
oh brother. buncha jive. you wouldnt believe the books written on utter jive. have yall ever skimmed through The *forgets* Sexual and social life of Mj?  :roll:  when i read the part in the book when it read like it was a fact that Mj had a shrine to liz i closed the book with a great pfft.. SHAMONE :roll:  :)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 01, 2009, 12:48:55 AM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
oh brother. buncha jive. you wouldnt believe the books written on utter jive. have yall ever skimmed through The *forgets* Sexual and social life of Mj?  :roll:  when i read the part in the book when it read like it was a fact that Mj had a shrine to liz i closed the book with a great pfft.. SHAMONE :roll:  :)

LOL, your post really made me laugh!!  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Oyan on December 19, 2009, 11:38:05 AM
How ugly.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Datroot on December 19, 2009, 12:35:48 PM
:evil:

I wish all this  nonsense would stop.  The autopsy pics are under lock and key.  I mean really, as if anyone there would actually pass this stuff around the internet.   Anything that doesn't come straight from the mouth of the coroner, I am taking with an almighty bucket of salt.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 19, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
THIS GUY ON YOUTUBE IS A FAKE, A LIAR AND A HORRIBLE FAKE MAN.
HE WAS PEDDLING THE SAME PICTURES MONTHS AGO AND CLAIMED HE WAS SELLING THE FOOTAGE TO FOX.  OF COURSE, THAT NEVER HAPPENED.  I EMAILED HIM TO SAY HE WAS A FAKE AND HE WAS USING MJ JUST TO GET YOUTUBE HITS.  HOW SAD IS THAT???   I ASKED HIM TO THINK OF MJ AND HIS CHILDREN AND TO BE RESPECTFUL.  HE BLOCKED ME!!!  THE TRUTH OBVIOUSLY HURT HIM.

IF HE REALLY IS FOR REAL HE WOULD HAVE SOLD THE FOOTAGE TO A TABLOID FOR A LOT OF MONEY.

HE IS A FAKE!!!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 19, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
Quote from: "Jade Jackson"
Here is a short review of the book:

http://www.prlog.org/10304252-michael-j ... icide.html (http://www.prlog.org/10304252-michael-jackson-the-autopsy-is-in-it-was-homicide.html)

If MJ really is dead, then the official autopsy is still sealed and under lock and key until the end of the homicide investigation.

This book will shed no further light on the matter.

Just another example of someone cashing in on MJ.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: wishinghard on December 19, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
yea ive watched the video before this topic came out but he said something along the lines of how scared he was that he almost crapped his pants!! :lol:  i figured that he was probably scared because he knew he was lying and didnt have anything 2 show so he probably thought he was gonna go 2 jail!!! thats what he gets 4 messing with innocent people!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: badloving on December 19, 2009, 02:04:08 PM
i knew from the first second that picture is fake...that guy and the ones like him should be sued by the Jackson family...i hope they'll get sued cause this is outrageous
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: larab on December 19, 2009, 02:41:31 PM
seriously..I can't believe you guys even considered that this pic could be real :lol:
it is a real picture..but come on! he looks soooo young! it is from 10 years ago ;)
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: mumof3 on December 19, 2009, 03:49:57 PM
I could not look at the picture but i am glad that you have cleared all that up by finding out where the picture came from when you showed the picture here you could see that the muscles are being used in the picture it is not  a picture a dead person thank god
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: fa on January 03, 2010, 03:29:21 PM
Quote from: "dyanne"
You are right! See below. I am sorry for the quality, at this point I can only use Paint to do such things because I am using a small notebook and don't have Photoshop installed.
But anyone can do this. Just stop at 0:32 and compare. The shadows are right, the angles... everything

(http://http://i49.tinypic.com/qyabuv.jpg)

(http://http://i50.tinypic.com/155324l.jpg)


OHHHHHHHHH!
Thank you very much for posting this comparision photo!!!!!
Yes! Definetively this is the photo!
How can bastards like this ugly fat monster still live in this planet?
Who is the freak? This fat guy is the freak. He is a sadic, an abnormal creature.

Michael is ALIVE and no one can prove it in contrary because there is no corpse!
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: fa on January 04, 2010, 05:48:55 PM
Does anybody know how to put a video response?

If one of the fellows could make a video with our arguments and proofs about this fake autopsy pic and put it as an answer to their video...
What do you think?
I don´t know how to do it. But isn´t it a good idea?
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: azazel31 on January 05, 2010, 12:23:46 PM
by the way Michael really is like cameleon or something if he could change his image like that I mean anambulance  picture and the "autopsy" picture...pretty good :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: azazel31 on January 05, 2010, 12:28:19 PM
And his face is no longer deformed as it claimed the family:) magic hand karen faye and doing wonders makeup:)  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: paula-c on January 05, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
! Haaaaayy, that so lying and boring man!  :roll:  :D
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 05, 2010, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: "fa"
Does anybody know how to put a video response?

If one of the fellows could make a video with our arguments and proofs about this fake autopsy pic and put it as an answer to their video...
What do you think?
I don´t know how to do it. But isn´t it a good idea?

Dont give him the satisfaction. He is doing it for attention.

Ignore him and he will go away.
Title: Re: WTH Is This?
Post by: paula-c on January 05, 2010, 07:59:38 PM
DancingTheDream wrote; Dont give him the satisfaction. He is doing it for attention.

Ignore him and he will go away.

! That's right! "You have to punish him with the whip of indifference."
What's in?,! Michael is alive! :lol:
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