Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: LiteEyeZ22 on January 19, 2010, 10:36:54 PM

Title: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: LiteEyeZ22 on January 19, 2010, 10:36:54 PM
I totally agree with this below....found it on another site thought it was worth posting for every1.....What's ya'll take?? Arty if repeating didnt c anything about it

This blogger from Larry King Live Blog summed up the finale this way:

This is my interpretation and synopsis of the finale...what do you beLIEvers think?

The mind blowing ending is that Michael's death is all a dream. In the first episode Jermaine said "they call me the dreamer". When the footage is shown of Jermaine announcing Michael's death, that footage is shown in slow motion "like a dream." The only other time we see "slow motion" footage in the entire series is in the Finale when the brothers are leaving Jimmy and Terry and wondering what they are going to do without Michael. After that "slow footage" scene, the next thing that happens is he tells Halima about the dream he keeps having. When Jermaine tells the brothers about his dream, that is when they go to Forest Lawn. The whole reality series is about losing their brother and the biggest superstar on earth, but in REALITY, it is all a dream! The question is "what did we all learn from the dream?" To LOVE before it's too late. The final words in the series are "that's what I've learned."

The series started with Jermaine being the "dreamer" and ended with Jermaine telling the brothers about his "dream." Remember the show Dallas from years ago? They did a whole season that was based on a dream and no one knew that until the end of the season.

The new song written for them is "Love Needs A Warning." The "dream" of Michael dying is the warning. The reality is series is linked to the movie and They Don't Care Care About Us, Martin Luther King, Jr. I have a "dream." One that will change the world forever and make HIStory. Make that change. Mike's "death" has definitely changed the world forever.

It was a SECRET FINALE that would BLOW YOUR MIND! If you got it, of course! That's my take on it.....

We love you, Mike!    And YES, we will be there!
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: smoothcriminal on January 19, 2010, 10:46:34 PM
Nice take.... I like the whole idea, just maybe by george you got it!  :D In reality we all need to change, Michael's messages are loud and clear.
Thanks..
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: NEFFERTEAREYA on January 19, 2010, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: "LiteEyeZ22"
I totally agree with this below....found it on another site thought it was worth posting for every1.....What's ya'll take?? Arty if repeating didnt c anything about it

This blogger from Larry King Live Blog summed up the finale this way:

This is my interpretation and synopsis of the finale...what do you beLIEvers think?

The mind blowing ending is that Michael's death is all a dream. In the first episode Jermaine said "they call me the dreamer". When the footage is shown of Jermaine announcing Michael's death, that footage is shown in slow motion "like a dream." The only other time we see "slow motion" footage in the entire series is in the Finale when the brothers are leaving Jimmy and Terry and wondering what they are going to do without Michael. After that "slow footage" scene, the next thing that happens is he tells Halima about the dream he keeps having. When Jermaine tells the brothers about his dream, that is when they go to Forest Lawn. The whole reality series is about losing their brother and the biggest superstar on earth, but in REALITY, it is all a dream! The question is "what did we all learn from the dream?" To LOVE before it's too late. The final words in the series are "that's what I've learned."

The series started with Jermaine being the "dreamer" and ended with Jermaine telling the brothers about his "dream." Remember the show Dallas from years ago? They did a whole season that was based on a dream and no one knew that until the end of the season.

The new song written for them is "Love Needs A Warning." The "dream" of Michael dying is the warning. The reality is series is linked to the movie and They Don't Care Care About Us, Martin Luther King, Jr. I have a "dream." One that will change the world forever and make HIStory. Make that change. Mike's "death" has definitely changed the world forever.

It was a SECRET FINALE that would BLOW YOUR MIND! If you got it, of course! That's my take on it.....

We love you, Mike!    And YES, we will be there!
by george,i think you're right! yes....it makes perfect sense.. ...i must say i'm impressed. :mrgreen:
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Post by: Mel31 on January 19, 2010, 11:00:30 PM
Wow its a lot of sense for me!  :D
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Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2010, 11:04:19 PM
Nice take.
But, when you get the news that a loved one has passed the world stops moving. It is like a slow motion, surreal and you star feeling guilty for not loving this person enough when alive. It has happened to me. I don't mean Michael. But it is a good message for the ones who don't know. It is better if it just a dream, a worning dream, because the reality hurts, bad.
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: darkchild on January 19, 2010, 11:05:29 PM
I do think by George that you have got and I feel that you are to something very interesting.  I only saw the first, two  episode of The Jacksons telly show.  I could not stomache the show to be honest.  But, I think you have some very good ideas.   MJ, always lives for L.O.V.E. It is MJ's whole being.  I always have striven to love all those around me because you never when it will be too late.  MJ's message is getting out and encircling all his fans.  MJ, you are always in my heart and in my mind! MJ, I love you more, my sweet angel!
It is all for L.O.V.E. ;)  :D  ;)  :D  ;)
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Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 19, 2010, 11:09:56 PM
@ LiteEyeZ22

Thanks for posting this here.  I'm helen on the LKL blog and the original author of this post....but so glad you shared it here!  I'm a firm beLIEVer that THIS IS IT!   :mrgreen:  :D  I had started another thread on this already called "Is Michael's death Jermaine's dream" but I did not explain it as well as I did on LKL.  So again, thanks! This is a much catchier title!   :D
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: LiteEyeZ22 on January 19, 2010, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
@ LiteEyeZ22

Thanks for posting this here.  I'm helen on the LKL blog and the original author of this post....but so glad you shared it here!  I'm a firm beLIEVer that THIS IS IT!   :mrgreen:  :D  I had started another thread on this already called "Is Michael's death Jermaine's dream" but I did not explain it as well as I did on LKL.  So again, thanks! This is a much catchier title!   :D

Hi!! Wonderful to meet the Brilliant mind behind this post....I read it said wow could not have said it better myself lol...bu ur welcome :-)
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Post by: Iused2dream on January 19, 2010, 11:41:12 PM
I'm so glad to hear others were reminded of the old TV show "Dallas" as I thought of that the exact moment Jermaine started talking about his "dream" with his wife....that entire conversation really felt like a rushed, last minute add-in to me.  Jermaine just appeared very uncomfortable, more than any of the other brothers throughout the entire series.  It was just VERY weird.  
Note:  for those who don't know what we are talking about when we reference the show "Dallas"...basically, one of the main characters (Bobby) was killed as part of the cliff-hanger but then the next season he appeared in the shower & we all realized "the ending of the last season was all a dream" his wife had....
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: neversaynever on January 19, 2010, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
@ LiteEyeZ22

Thanks for posting this here.  I'm helen on the LKL blog and the original author of this post....but so glad you shared it here!  I'm a firm beLIEVer that THIS IS IT!   :mrgreen:  :D  I had started another thread on this already called "Is Michael's death Jermaine's dream" but I did not explain it as well as I did on LKL.  So again, thanks! This is a much catchier title!   :D


Great post!  Makes sense! Thank you! :D   Can we wake up now? :lol:
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Post by: Butterfly J on January 20, 2010, 12:08:35 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
@ LiteEyeZ22

Thanks for posting this here.  I'm helen on the LKL blog and the original author of this post....but so glad you shared it here!  I'm a firm beLIEVer that THIS IS IT!   :mrgreen:  :D  I had started another thread on this already called "Is Michael's death Jermaine's dream" but I did not explain it as well as I did on LKL.  So again, thanks! This is a much catchier title!   :D

This is better explanation! Thank you! It makes much sense to me ;)
Sorry, I misunderstood you in "Is Michael's death Jermaine's dream" thread.
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Post by: letstalkagain on January 20, 2010, 01:04:23 AM
ISorry, i do not think so.  Very Good analogy, however the finale has come and gone, and there was nothing that blew your mind !! The Jacksons were simply trying to get more ratings,  Sorry, if it upsets
anyone, but we still have to try to look at facts and not fantasy.
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Post by: Venus on January 20, 2010, 04:56:52 AM
Quote from: "letstalkagain"
ISorry, i do not think so.  Very Good analogy, however the finale has come and gone, and there was nothing that blew your mind !! The Jacksons were simply trying to get more ratings,  Sorry, if it upsets
anyone, but we still have to try to look at facts and not fantasy.

Unfortunatelly I have to agree. I haven't seen the series, but I can conclude this by your posts.
Can I have a link to watch finale online?
 :roll:
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Post by: Venus on January 20, 2010, 04:57:52 AM
Please, anyone give me the link to Finale. I need to see it myself. I'm from Russia and we don't have this show here.
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Post by: Game Player on January 20, 2010, 05:17:33 AM
The brothers are all executive producers correct? So would they have a say in editing?
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Post by: superflysister81 on January 20, 2010, 05:20:56 AM
Try this link to watch the Finale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvXUig7 ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvXUig7J18&feature=channel)

I hope this works... ;)
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Post by: Suzy on January 20, 2010, 05:39:08 AM
IF WE MUST WAIT TILL THE END THAN WAIT AND NOT NEGATIVE!MICHAEL WILL TELL US WHEN HE IS READY.
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Post by: rag doll on January 20, 2010, 05:42:12 AM
WOW - what you say perfectly fits in the whole:

- Jermaine´s announcement of the "death" at the UCLA ( why of all things a relative??)
- the chronology of events and our feeling right from the start that everything seems so "staged"
- MJ´s "hidden" picture on alljack5ons Twitter

And also TMZ - our "Brickman´s" latest cryptical addition on the subject:
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It's unclear why the brothers wouldn't jump at the chance for a paycheck
... but then again, it's the Jacksons ... so nothing is ever as it seems.
The answer is: because it´s all for L.O.V.E.

Thank you for your beautiful post-
mmmh, today will be sooo hard to hide my gladness!!!   :)  :D  :P
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Post by: Venus on January 20, 2010, 06:09:44 AM
Quote from: "superflysister81"
Try this link to watch the Finale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvXUig7 ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvXUig7J18&feature=channel)

I hope this works... ;)

Thank you so so much! :)
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Post by: Bee Bee on January 20, 2010, 06:30:49 AM
This got me teary eyes, it's such a beautiful thought. I seriously hope you're right. The Jacksons keep making me sick, and I just watched that finale on YouTube, but was that all? I mean, that was it? Why did they go there at all, what was the purpose, they didn't even show anything. It's ridiculous.

I really want to believe they wanted more than their 15 minutes of fame with this. I just hope so.
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Post by: Venus on January 20, 2010, 07:12:11 AM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
This got me teary eyes, it's such a beautiful thought. I seriously hope you're right. The Jacksons keep making me sick, and I just watched that finale on YouTube, but was that all? I mean, that was it? Why did they go there at all, what was the purpose, they didn't even show anything. It's ridiculous.

I really want to believe they wanted more than their 15 minutes of fame with this. I just hope so.

Bee Bee. The Jacksons make my sick too. Especialle Jermaine. I don't know why. And it feels like he makes Tito sick too and other Jacksons, but Tito especially. :lol:
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Post by: Bee Bee on January 20, 2010, 07:53:59 AM
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
This got me teary eyes, it's such a beautiful thought. I seriously hope you're right. The Jacksons keep making me sick, and I just watched that finale on YouTube, but was that all? I mean, that was it? Why did they go there at all, what was the purpose, they didn't even show anything. It's ridiculous.

I really want to believe they wanted more than their 15 minutes of fame with this. I just hope so.

Bee Bee. The Jacksons make my sick too. Especialle Jermaine. I don't know why. And it feels like he makes Tito sick too and other Jacksons, but Tito especially. :lol:

Really? LOL! Explain this, please.  :lol:

I mean, I can't imagine Jermaine not making anyone sick, but the other ones aren't that much better either.
Title: Re: I Feel THIS IS IT! =]
Post by: TruthBeTold on January 20, 2010, 07:57:20 AM
Ok guys, so i was reading the post from that dude on the LKL Blog(viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3840) and it just hit me , smack, bang right in the middle of the face. So i got to doing research and i've found you can obtain what is known as a Performance Art Legislation, which gives you the freedom to do what you like including faking your death, similar to what is spoke about in this article.

So to be honest this does feel like a dream...think about it, the world slowed down, just like things do in a dream, and his death is something you want to run from, but as you run it keeps getting closer and closer , like in a bad dream.

( http://splendidelles.wordpress.com/2008 (http://splendidelles.wordpress.com/2008) ... less-hoax/)

Now i've researched that with that kind of Performance Art Legislation you can do just about anything you like, its similar to what criss angel would of had to of obtained to fake his own death/funeral.

Now onto the confidentiality agreements. It became apparent not long before TII was released that the dancers/crew all had to sign a 2 year confidentiality agreement. And i mean why would they have to do that?, would it be so that they wouldn't speak about the supposed bad state Michael was in ?..., Of course not, he wasn't in a bad state, he was thin yes, but to pass of as someone who was frail and bad, and as you know the autopsy said he had healthy organs and body. Now please tell me how can a said DRUG ADDICT have healthy organs? come on guys, the media thinks we are dumb.

The link below pretty much sums up a confidentiality agreement in performance.
http://www.chillingeffects.org/tradesec (http://www.chillingeffects.org/tradesec) ... ourceID=89
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Post by: Venus on January 20, 2010, 08:21:51 AM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
Quote from: "Venus"
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
This got me teary eyes, it's such a beautiful thought. I seriously hope you're right. The Jacksons keep making me sick, and I just watched that finale on YouTube, but was that all? I mean, that was it? Why did they go there at all, what was the purpose, they didn't even show anything. It's ridiculous.

I really want to believe they wanted more than their 15 minutes of fame with this. I just hope so.

Bee Bee. The Jacksons make my sick too. Especialle Jermaine. I don't know why. And it feels like he makes Tito sick too and other Jacksons, but Tito especially. :lol:

Really? LOL! Explain this, please.  :lol:

I mean, I can't imagine Jermaine not making anyone sick, but the other ones aren't that much better either.

Ok. I watched The finale on youtube. It didn't look like finale for me, but... there was a moment when all 4 Jacksons are sitting in some living room or something. Jermaine is doing his bla-bla about tribute and they all look at him like they want to kill him. Or want to say "Hey, shut up!". This all looks so nasty to me. Especially if MJ passed. If he's alive - still nasty, because Jemaine is trying to be top dog and he's not! :twisted:
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Post by: Kirsche on January 20, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
What makes me wonder about that show is that I think almost this whole season is based on Michaels "death"....But wasn't it meant to be a show about the Jacksons recording songs, talking about their plans etc.?

This show makes me feel like this is part of the plan.... Like they did it for the hoax or something... I hope you know what I mean.
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Post by: Dancing_Machine on January 20, 2010, 02:55:43 PM
This is kinda interesting!
It's really possible that we're all in a worldwide reality movieproject kinda thing.
Michael always said he wanted to do movies. In I guess 2005 he said he wanted to do film like we never saw before.
However, I still think it's al for a greater purpose: making everyone aware of the system we live in nowadays.

Just my 2 cents...:geek:
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Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 20, 2010, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
Ok guys, so i was reading the post from that dude on the LKL Blog(viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3840) and it just hit me , smack, bang right in the middle of the face. So i got to doing research and i've found you can obtain what is known as a Performance Art Legislation, which gives you the freedom to do what you like including faking your death, similar to what is spoke about in this article.

So to be honest this does feel like a dream...think about it, the world slowed down, just like things do in a dream, and his death is something you want to run from, but as you run it keeps getting closer and closer , like in a bad dream.

( http://splendidelles.wordpress.com/2008 (http://splendidelles.wordpress.com/2008) ... less-hoax/)

Now i've researched that with that kind of Performance Art Legislation you can do just about anything you like, its similar to what criss angel would of had to of obtained to fake his own death/funeral.

Now onto the confidentiality agreements. It became apparent not long before TII was released that the dancers/crew all had to sign a 2 year confidentiality agreement. And i mean why would they have to do that?, would it be so that they wouldn't speak about the supposed bad state Michael was in ?..., Of course not, he wasn't in a bad state, he was thin yes, but to pass of as someone who was frail and bad, and as you know the autopsy said he had healthy organs and body. Now please tell me how can a said DRUG ADDICT have healthy organs? come on guys, the media thinks we are dumb.

The link below pretty much sums up a confidentiality agreement in performance.
http://www.chillingeffects.org/tradesec (http://www.chillingeffects.org/tradesec) ... ourceID=89

Oh thanks very much for posting this,I remember a member posting about that a couple of months ago or so,I think it was Grace...Very,VERY interesting :D
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Post by: loyalfan on January 20, 2010, 04:54:59 PM
WHOA.....IT MAKES SENSE.............BUT HOW DOES E XPLAIN THE FACT WE......WERE LIED TO?????SURELY THE SAME EFFECT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT LIES TO THE WORLD......SORRY AM I MEGA THICK????
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Post by: teensy on January 20, 2010, 06:28:39 PM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
WHOA.....IT MAKES SENSE.............BUT HOW DOES E XPLAIN THE FACT WE......WERE LIED TO?????SURELY THE SAME EFFECT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT LIES TO THE WORLD......SORRY AM I MEGA THICK????

This is someones comment from the blog.
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Art also involves an implied contract between the artist and the audience. The basis of that contract is that the artist acknowledges to the audience that he or she is going to be lying to them via their art. That’s one of the things that makes art so interesting. Can the artist still evoke the emotion even when the audience knows beforehand that they will be lied to?

Since we believe Michael faked his death, are we really being lied to? With all the strangeness happening around his death, that even non believers/non fans can see something is off, are we really being lied to? It's like a practical joke. You can see your being setup, but you carry on as normal and set off the trap. You see it coming or know something is off, but you let yourself be pulled in. Or you don't see it coming and get a surprise and realize you were fooled. I guess with practical jokes, you can either laugh it off or get mad. Any maybe your your reaction depends on what intent you think was behind it

We know something is going on. Maybe what we tell ourselves about the reasons for this hoax makes us feel lied to or not.
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Post by: PureLove on January 20, 2010, 10:03:35 PM
It makes perfect sense to me. Thank you so much for this post  :D
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Post by: dmovie27 on January 20, 2010, 10:40:59 PM
Excellent observation and I really feel it will play out this way. It makes so much sense and could wrap up everything nicely and nobody would be "lying" or presenting falsehoods.

It was just a bad dream.

NOTE*: One of Jermaine's biggest hits back in the 80's was a song called "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming".

I have a feeling this song is going to become very popular again in the near future. Which I think would be Michael's intention anyway. What a great, unselfish gift to allow your family to get back in the spotlight and have their time to shine...without the dominance of his shadow over them. When he comes back, ALL the Jacksons will be back on top, not just Michael and they'll get their much deserved respect in how they pulled all this off and CHANGED the world. A TRUE "family dynasty".

It's very noble of Michael.

A TRUE KING. :)
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Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 20, 2010, 10:49:54 PM
@ dmovie27

What a beautiful post! I agree.  It is extremely noble of him.  Family comes first!   ;)
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Post by: SIMPLY-[MJ] on January 20, 2010, 10:54:14 PM
Wow this is so excellent! Bravo!
This really made my day since i had a really bad one.
Just when i thought nothin can make me smile
this post and the thought really got me cheesing  :D
So basically the whole thing is about family and a dream...
 :shock:   :D  :mrgreen: Good Job!
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Post by: Venus on January 21, 2010, 01:55:11 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
What makes me wonder about that show is that I think almost this whole season is based on Michaels "death"....But wasn't it meant to be a show about the Jacksons recording songs, talking about their plans etc.?

Maybe they were going to record, but they are not good enough for it, especially without Michael's vocal. So they tried to push the most from this situation. That's what happen.
I don't really believe they are very religious. They were married several times. Jermaine converted to other religion. Quite simply they need money for their living but they can't do anything, because they never tried anything but show business.

What stroke me the most is credits at the begging of series. There so much affectedness - too much even for the king of pop. It's megalomania! I even made my laugh like crazy :lol:
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Post by: Smooth-Criminal on January 21, 2010, 06:13:45 PM
Can someone post anything about the Performance Art Legislation? I can't find anything related on the web...

About the dancers' contracts: Does anybody knows if the confidentiality agreements are part of a regular contract? And if the dancers had those two-year contracts... doesn't it make you think Michael is not going to come back in a long time? Or at least that he's going to take over a year to show up again? I think it's  too soon yet...
As long as the reality show still airs I don't think we can have Michael with us, it seems like the brothers REALLY need to be on the spotlight first.   :roll:
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Post by: lovemj4everandever on November 18, 2010, 01:24:14 AM
Quote from: "Iused2dream"
I'm so glad to hear others were reminded of the old TV show "Dallas" as I thought of that the exact moment Jermaine started talking about his "dream" with his wife....that entire conversation really felt like a rushed, last minute add-in to me.  Jermaine just appeared very uncomfortable, more than any of the other brothers throughout the entire series.  It was just VERY weird.  
Note:  for those who don't know what we are talking about when we reference the show "Dallas"...basically, one of the main characters (Bobby) was killed as part of the cliff-hanger but then the next season he appeared in the shower & we all realized "the ending of the last season was all a dream" his wife had....

Thanks for making that correction.  It was indeed the first episode of the next season before the audience learned it was all a dream.  We thought for months that Bobby was really "dead."  Jodi Gomes and the Jacksons are currently filming Season 2.  The opening episode will be episode #7.   8-)
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