Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Special Events & Days => General Hoax Investigation => The Jacksons ~ A Family Dynasty => Topic started by: imabeliever2 on January 19, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
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Did anyone else notice Jackson Jackson as he was making comments about what he saw while visiting MJ's grave at Forest Lawn? He talked about the flowers that he saw from fans around the world etc. Look at how much his eyes are shifting and his face is twitching, he can hardly look at the camera, then again look at him as he confronts Jermaine about putting him on the speaker phone during the conversation about working with Janet's old Producers. :? And his eyes and facial movements didn't line up with what he was saying. He actually looked like a child trying to lie. Lol, he had this look like he was thinking, (Now you know everyone knows you're lying) :lol: :lol:
Amazing, Although he was apparently very angry with his brother, there is no twitching of the face and his eyes are now focused. Wow, this a big giveaway that Michael is not there and they're acting or I should say (Playing a Role). Apparently, his acting skills are a little off. Guys, what do you think???
http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-fami ... sty/video/ (http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-family-dynasty/video/)
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Ah man.. i cant watch that video in the UK. :cry:
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same here
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Did anyone else notice Jackson Jackson as he was making comments about what he saw while visiting MJ's grave at Forest Lawn? He talked about the flowers that he saw from fans around the world etc. Look at how much his eyes are shifting and his face is twitching, he can hardly look at the camera, then again look at him as he confronts Jermaine about putting him on the speaker phone during the conversation about working with Janet's old Producers. :? And his eyes and facial movements didn't line up with what he was saying. He actually looked like a child trying to lie. Lol, he had this look like he was thinking, (Now you know everyone knows you're lying) :lol: :lol:
Amazing, Although he was apparently very angry with his brother, there is no twitching of the face and his eyes are now focused. Wow, this a big giveaway that Michael is not there and they're acting or I should say (Playing a Role). Apparently, his acting skills are a little off. Guys, what do you think???
http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-fami ... sty/video/ (http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-family-dynasty/video/)
I got the feeling that Jackie is very uncomfortable with the hoax. I think he feels guilty for all the lies that have to be told. I know I could not do it! He seemed truly out of sorts the whole program. I also have the feeling he may be the reason they have not signed on with A&E for another season. I got the impression from him on the last show that he is done with the whole thing.
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All i can say, is after seeing this photo of Jackie today... i know Jackie loved and cared for Michael. ;)
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Is that who it was?
I was watching it and I noticed that too. With the eyes looking left.
Janet did it too in an interview and Liars Always Look Left.
So they're hiding something.
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Yeah Jackies eyes flickered like crazy, i noticed that too ! :shock:
First sign that you are uncomfortable or lying!
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Did anyone else notice Jackson Jackson as he was making comments about what he saw while visiting MJ's grave at Forest Lawn? He talked about the flowers that he saw from fans around the world etc. Look at how much his eyes are shifting and his face is twitching, he can hardly look at the camera, then again look at him as he confronts Jermaine about putting him on the speaker phone during the conversation about working with Janet's old Producers. :? And his eyes and facial movements didn't line up with what he was saying. He actually looked like a child trying to lie. Lol, he had this look like he was thinking, (Now you know everyone knows you're lying) :lol: :lol:
Amazing, Although he was apparently very angry with his brother, there is no twitching of the face and his eyes are now focused. Wow, this a big giveaway that Michael is not there and they're acting or I should say (Playing a Role). Apparently, his acting skills are a little off. Guys, what do you think???
http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-fami ... sty/video/ (http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-family-dynasty/video/)
I got the feeling that Jackie is very uncomfortable with the hoax. I think he feels guilty for all the lies that have to be told. I know I could not do it! He seemed truly out of sorts the whole program. I also have the feeling he may be the reason they have not signed on with A&E for another season. I got the impression from him on the last show that he is done with the whole thing.
Hmmm good observation.
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I saw that clip of Jackie and wonder if he was reading his script off a cue card?!?!?!?
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I saw that clip of Jackie and wonder if he was reading his script off a cue card?!?!?!?
That woudn't shock me at all, it has looked like they have done that all the time during this show,... :)
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Smells like a hoax to me....because it surely doesn't take a script to speak on matters from the heart.
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DTD-- that picture is ADORABLE. aww! :D
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Did anyone else notice Jackson Jackson as he was making comments about what he saw while visiting MJ's grave at Forest Lawn? He talked about the flowers that he saw from fans around the world etc. Look at how much his eyes are shifting and his face is twitching, he can hardly look at the camera, Lol, he had this look like he was thinking, (Now you know everyone knows you're lying) :lol: :lol:
lol well he looked like he was thinking...beacuse he was thinking :lol: he was explaining what he saw at FL right? well he had to think about what he was seeing...also in my psychology class they say the eye rule is not even a good demonstraion at all!! it can mean so many different things...it can mean intimidation or yes he could have been uncomfortable talking about Mikes burial place :( after seeing that picture hugging Michael he was probably upset and felt uncomfortable and then sitting there in front of cameras describing what he saw where his brother is laid to rest can be quite intimidating...i give the man props for it IF MJ is dead i stress the word IF because he could also feel uncomfortable talking about his "dead" brother when he knows he is not really dead lol and he probably felt quite strange going to FL where no one really was...but could be the very future place MJ would be buried if he were actually dead...who knows but you can/need to look at it both sides of the fence please...because if you dont learn how to view from both sides then you are not going to get very far in the investigation...same with ur emotions...when we hear or discover something that we dont like we tend to turn our heads...like the drug addiction?...keep ur emotions in order so you wont get confused and everything ;)
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If you go back and watch all the episodes you will see Jackie looking right into the camera a lot! He always jumps around with his eyes...as I have said before in other posts...I keep wondering if Michael is behind that camera!! ;)
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That what I keep thinking too. Who is filming and directing this????? I know it says so after the credits, but that could be fake too. The brothers could also be finding it hard to say emotional things, because MJ is right there, behind the camera...
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DancingTheDream - I love that picture, so sweet!
Could it also just be that Jackie's just uncomfortable about being on the show and talking about his brother's death, i.e Michael is, God forbid, dead? Sorry not trying to be negative or anything, I love reading about all new observations especially positive ones, but I just want to stay objective too.
Then again I haven't actually seen a full episode, don't even know if they're showing it here, so I guess I'm not the best person to give an opinion :roll:
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Hey, thanks for sharing the link. I missed the end, so I tried watching it here but the part 5, the part where they go to the cememtary, will not play. Anyone else have this problem?
I noticed that at the very end of jermaine's and jackie's "argument", after they hug, Jackie says to jermaine, "it's our turn. It's about us."
An observation.
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Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that the whole point of this show is to get people to accept the jacksons without Michael. I am still having doubts, LOL
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Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that the whole point of this show is to get people to accept the jacksons without Michael. I am still having doubts, LOL
Ouch, your words cut me like a knife :cry:
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Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that the whole point of this show is to get people to accept the jacksons without Michael. I am still having doubts, LOL
Ouch, your words cut me like a knife :cry:
me too :cry:
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Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that the whole point of this show is to get people to accept the jacksons without Michael. I am still having doubts, LOL
Ouch, your words cut me like a knife :cry:
me too :cry:
me 3.. but very true!! maybe if he is alive he's gone into seclusion and thats it!! will we ever know?? that is the question!! :shock: no-one will ever know what Michael is or was feeling, so sumising sayin he would never do that!! well i'm afraid to say how do you know what he would and wouldn't do..
sorry for sounding negative!! :cry:
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Is it just me, or does Jacki Jackson's arm seem to be very white compared to rest of his hand, im talking about the picture where he hugs Michael.
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Please check out MJfan4everandaday's new video just posted today under Hoax Videos! This explains a lot about the last episode of the Jackson's tv show. Very enlightening and encouraging!
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I don't like that statement that Jackie made. They had time when MJ was taking a break. What is there excuse for not making a come back? Do they feel since MJ is gone that ppl will pay attention to them? I'm sorry MJ was always my favorite.
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I don't like that statement that Jackie made. They had time when MJ was taking a break. What is there excuse for not making a come back? Do they feel since MJ is gone that ppl will pay attention to them? I'm sorry MJ was always my favorite.
EXACTLY!!!
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Sometimes I get the sinking feeling that the whole point of this show is to get people to accept the jacksons without Michael. I am still having doubts, LOL
Ouch, your words cut me like a knife :cry:
me too :cry:
me 3.. but very true!! maybe if he is alive he's gone into seclusion and thats it!! will we ever know?? that is the question!! :shock: no-one will ever know what Michael is or was feeling, so sumising sayin he would never do that!! well i'm afraid to say how do you know what he would and wouldn't do..
sorry for sounding negative!! :cry:
sorry, just saying what I feel; but it is so confusing; I really think he is alive; but at the same time there are always these thoughts. Sorry to make you feel bad. :?
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The series almost convinced me that MJ was dead as well along with the fact that the few Jehovah Witnesses that I know personally insist on the fact that there is no way Katherine Jackson would lie about her son being dead when he really isn't because of her dedication to her religion. I guess I'm now at 75/25% now with the 75% believing he is still alive. However this wavers from day to day! :? :? :? We have so much evidence that he's still alive, but the family/media can be so convincing sometimes. I'm normally not wishy/washy in situations, but this is really baffeling. Sometimes, I think that maybe I just love and miss his presence soooooo much that I'm actually in denial of the fact that he really is dead, but I sure hope not. :( Maybe we'll see or hear something as encourgement, because I don't know how much longer I can continue with this indecisive belief. But for my own peace of mind, I will have to look again at everything and make a final decision within myself. I am not a straddle the fence type of person. I'm an either hot or cold or yes or no type of personality. Sorry Guys.... forgive me for releasing my negative feelings here. I guess I needed someone to share with today, I may be 100% again tomorrow....just getting tired I suppose. :(
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@ i m believer ...feel free to s hare your feelings , its healthy to keep an open mind , and express yourself everyone here.........i literally means everyone .....think the same way you do , we sometimes question ourselves are we stuck some where in the middle ???while the rest of world even his family has move on . i believe in TIME , it heals , it will bring truth , have patience if its a hoaxl, mj will reveal himself...... else .... there re things in live we just cant change .things happen for a reason and only God knows what our fate holds good for us , but for now dont worry every thing will be alrite , Godbless you.. take care
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The series almost convinced me that MJ was dead as well along with the fact that the few Jehovah Witnesses that I know personally insist on the fact that there is no way Katherine Jackson would lie about her son being dead when he really isn't because of her dedication to her religion. I guess I'm now at 75/25% now with the 75% believing he is still alive. However this wavers from day to day! :? :? :? We have so much evidence that he's still alive, but the family/media can be so convincing sometimes. I'm normally not wishy/washy in situations, but this is really baffeling. Sometimes, I think that maybe I just love and miss his presence soooooo much that I'm actually in denial of the fact that he really is dead, but I sure hope not. :( Maybe we'll see or hear something as encourgement, because I don't know how much longer I can continue with this indecisive belief. But for my own peace of mind, I will have to look again at everything and make a final decision within myself. I am not a straddle the fence type of person. I'm an either hot or cold or yes or no type of personality. Sorry Guys.... forgive me for releasing my negative feelings here. I guess I needed someone to share with today, I may be 100% again tomorrow....just getting tired I suppose. :(
I truly understand what u mean and I think it's healthy to express those feelings too cuz otherwise you'll go crazy! I have good days and bad days too. After all we can't be 100% sure of anything really. See it as a search for truth, for Michael's sake. We shouldn't stop questioning all these weird facts even though I admit my mind is tired too... Anyways going on this forum always makes me feel better cuz whenever I think i've discovered something negative someone always knows more or has better theories that make sense, which calms me down :)
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Thank you guys so much! Much better today and trying to stay focused on the goal! :)
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Yeah , I was kinda getting that vibe from him , like he really don't want to do this but I bet he did it for his "little" brother though ... & he is a wonderful brother for playing alot with the "hoax".
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Is it just me, or does Jacki Jackson's arm seem to be very white compared to rest of his hand, im talking about the picture where he hugs Michael.[/quote]
I think his lower arm is darker because he probably wear shirts that usually hit that area of his arm so that part of his arm is exposed more to the sun. Black people can get tanned too. :lol: He just got a farmers tan. I'm black so I can say that. My sister and brother are caramel complexion and in the summer they be turning chocolate. :lol: I get tanned too in the summer on certain parts of my body. So that's all it is.
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Is it just me, or does Jacki Jackson's arm seem to be very white compared to rest of his hand, im talking about the picture where he hugs Michael.
Probably just lighting. Or if people wear short sleeved shirts and go out in the sun a lot they get a darker tan on their exposed skin.
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saw advert for it in uk "the wait is over" i thought i aint been waiting for you lol :lol: i rekon mj was filming it tho :D
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Maybe it you posted a video then it would help me remember, lol :)
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Getting back to the phone conversation and Jackie being so upset about being on speaker phone to me it wasn't about being embarresed in front of Jimmie Jam and Terry Lewis it was maybe he may have said something about Michael being alive and blew the hoax :o
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I only had audio and couldn't actually see their expression, but one fo the first things I noted aoubt them was...God, Jermaine's arrogant. I know there was a ton of footage we didn't see simply because of the editing process, but still...
Wow....
I felt at one point that the others were kind of not letting Jacky and Marlon have their say. Jermaine seemed as though he wanted to hog the camera. lol
Anyway, sorry ofr t he off-topic rant. ;)
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I am not an expert on eyes that flicker and faces twitching meaning you're a liar type of thing.I will continue to say that no one knows the pain of losing Michael better than his own family,and I'm talking about the people who raised him.Who are we to decide when the family has had enough time to heal from such a tragedy of losing Michael,either through death or his own exit is is a down right tragedy to lose Michael either way.Marlon said it best,people (including the fans will never how it feels lose Michael as a brother,we may think we know him,he was our legend,superstar and our King Of Pop,but to his family he was just Mike.
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Okay i couldn't help myself so i've browsed around the internet and came up with this site
http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html (http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html)
It's a page on how to spot a liars eyes :shock:
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Jackie was a DEAD give-away, I TOTALLY agree. He stuttered and didn't make much sense most of the time. Especially on the 2nd or 3rd eppy during a confessional when he breaks down crying then later smiling and saying that he will see him again one day....soon. I immediately thought "Okay, so Jackie is either terminally ill or he'll be taking a visit to the hideout to see our guy." Also, Marlon would never refer to MJ as "deceased" or say things like "When Michael died...". I noticed that he would always refer to him as "No longer being with us..." which is true considering that he may not be in the U.S. Also, Marlon is a born again Christian. You'll notice that he chooses his words very carefully during his confessionals. :D
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Okay i couldn't help myself so i've browsed around the internet and came up with this site
http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html (http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html)
It's a page on how to spot a liars eyes :shock:
I made that test and.....it did not work ;)