Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: mykidsmum on January 14, 2010, 08:58:50 PM

Title: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: mykidsmum on January 14, 2010, 08:58:50 PM
Everyone is talking about this video.  I saw it before it was shut down.  We have to find it.  Someone must have downloaded it or has it somewhere.  Here is my video (my very first) and Here is a description....we can do it!  There is a reason why they took it down!
[youtube:brxs294v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6I1LuwHeSc[/youtube:brxs294v]
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I saw the video. It was taped outside the Burbank dance studio at night. It was a fan video. Michael had the same jacket on he had on at the press conference. He was wearing his sun glasses. He stated that he was angry with the promoter(AEG) for booking him up for 50 shows, that he went to bed thinking he only had to do 10 shows and he woke up having to do 50. He said he didn't know how he would do it, as he wasn't a big eater and would need to put some weight on.
The video was pulled down not long after he passed. I have been searching for it ever since. Some cable shows even had shown clips from that video. The part of him saying he didn't know how he would do as he wasn't a big eater was played on Hollywood 411 amoung others. I enlisted the help of some members of the media. I was told that when the media pull something down, it is impossible to trace because everyone just pretends they don't know what you are talking about. There is no way to track the things that are taken off you tube either. If someone comes up with that video, make copies and send to as many people and places as possible! Send to the media! We have to keep searching for it! I think something horrible happened to our beautiful Michael and we need to never stop searching for the truth! We have to do it for him!
The 02 press conference video's have also all been edited to remove Michaels saying 10 shows in London. He DID say that at the press conference but it has been edited out of every copy I can find. Information has been being removed since the last week of June. They are trying to get the Sony speech that he did in London pulled down now also! Someone must be mighty nervous to be trying to cover up facts! It's very telling if you ask me! If you have nothing to hide, you do not put effort into hiding things. That easy. Keep the faith alive everyone! The truth must be told.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: darkchild on January 14, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
I have heard about this missing video.  But, I have never seen it. :(  I do believe that the O2 video has been edited as well.  I can tell you to get the Michael Jackson Mega Box from Amazon.com.  It has the Sony speech that MJ made in the UK on it.  The Mega Box is amazing!  I have included the link for you, if you are interested in ordering it.

http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-M ... 94&sr=1-12 (http://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jackson-Mega-box/dp/B002LFJXM8/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1263525294&sr=1-12)

Yes, we need to continue to fight for our precious and our beloved Michael.  God Bless you! :D
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: juliet on January 14, 2010, 09:52:38 PM
Thanks MYKIDSMUM. I remember the video and now that you've mentioned it, I do believe it was taken down.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 14, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
Was it actually Michael talking?
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: mykidsmum on January 14, 2010, 10:07:39 PM
yes he was!  I remember seeing it.  I didn't think much of it at the time because it was when I was just starting to look at information.  I don't even remember where I saw it.  I just remember it because MJ talked about not being a big eater and I felt sorry for him.  Something about the video made an impression on me.  We have to find it...If anyone is members of any other forum, we have to get the word out.  No one wants us to know that this is what he said!
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 14, 2010, 10:40:12 PM
Yes, I saw it and it may be in one of the hoax videos a while back.  Michael says that he went to sleep knowing that he had 10 sold out shows and when he woke up he was told that he had 50 sold out shows.  He sounded very upset and said that he was upset.  It was a while ago so I can't remember everything he said but he may have also said that he didn't think he could do 50 shows.

Now I wish I had downloaded it.  Hopefully, it is out there somewhere.

Da Troot Will Prevail!
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: ER911 on January 14, 2010, 11:03:39 PM
This is all i've found so far:
http://www.musictoob.com/michael-jackso ... rena-10284 (http://www.musictoob.com/michael-jacksons-afraid-he-doesnt-eat-enough-to-pull-off-50-dates-at-londons-o2-arena-10284)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 14, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
Good find, ER911!  Yes, that is what I remembered, but I saw him say that in a video somewhere on youtube.  I believe it was part of a hoax video though.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 14, 2010, 11:34:01 PM
Okay, but there's no need to get upset- those concerts weren't even real! He's probably acting- how can we be worried about something that wasn't even really going to happen?
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: ER911 on January 14, 2010, 11:39:25 PM
mykidsmum:

i dont ever recall hearing MJ make any comments on the number of shows in his 02 vids. Are you sayin that the vids that have been up were already edited?
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: mykidsmum on January 14, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: "ER911"
mykidsmum:

i dont ever recall hearing MJ make any comments on the number of shows in his 02 vids. Are you sayin that the vids that have been up were already edited?
There was a video made by a fan where MJ is leaving the studio and says to the fans that he was upset about the number changing from 10 concerts to 50 and that he was not a big eater and that he would have to gain some weight to do that many shows.  He said he was not happy and didn't look happy at all and I think that is why the video stuck out to me.  They (whoever they are) took the video down and now no one can find it.  No one wants anyone to see MJ saying it in his own words.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 15, 2010, 12:13:33 AM
I think after he finished speaking his mind, he went home to work on and implement Plan B - "Fake My Death."
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 15, 2010, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
I think after he finished speaking his mind, he went home to work on and implement Plan B - "Fake My Death."
That wasn't Plan B- It's the plan! Remember, these concerts aren't real, he was acting when he said that to those fans..
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 15, 2010, 12:23:25 AM
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Pink Topaz wrote:
That wasn't Plan B- It's the plan! Remember, these concerts aren't real, he was acting when he said that to those fans..

That is a possibility too.  I am not certain that he didn't agree to 10 shows and wanted to make his comeback.  On the other hand, maybe it was all part of the hoax.  Hopefully, we will find out one day....soon would be nice.

Michael - We Want You Back!!
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on January 15, 2010, 12:28:58 AM
My belief:These concerts were not meant to be,the hoax started at the 02 conference... ;)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 15, 2010, 01:35:15 AM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
My belief:These concerts were not meant to be,the hoax started at the 02 conference... ;)
Hm, I agree, Annie! Or, actually, I think it started last December with those rumors that he was sick and then that radio hoax-death prank thing that upset fans..;)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: becca26 on January 15, 2010, 01:45:49 AM
Does anybody know who much MJ would have made off of 10 shows or 50 shows? If this is the cause 50 shows would not take 2 years to do, so why have dancers/singers ect under 2 year contract? Is Aeg holding them under contract or MJ?
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: i_need YoU on January 15, 2010, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: "becca26"
Does anybody know who much MJ would have made off of 10 shows or 50 shows? If this is the cause 50 shows would not take 2 years to do, so why have dancers/singers ect under 2 year contract? Is Aeg holding them under contract or MJ?
very good point becca26...

now i have a quick question?...I think Michael intended to do the 10 shows...the reason why there are soo muany clues left behind is because it was a very quick plan...it was done sloppy...hence all the dead ends and confusion surrounding his death...if he were planning it a year or 2 ago...then i Believe that there would be not one clue out there saying he may still be alive. I think he planned this withing a couple months because there are alot of questions out there pertaining his death...now my question is...Would MJ really SELL those tickets where people have to SPEND their MONEY  if he knew he were not going to do those shows in the first place...i dont think he would want people spending their money if he knew he were going to fake his death
Also If they edited him saying 10 shows...do you think they could have edited his voce saying 50 shows that easily lol
it can easily be done...lik maybe somewhere he stated the word " fifty" in years of interviews, music, documentaries ect...it would be easy to make it assume that he is saying something completly different lol...and thats not just pertaining the o2 conferance...it could be with any interview where they twist his words up.
 :D damn the technology these days...anything can happen these days with all this technology
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: KINGdom52 on January 15, 2010, 02:57:24 AM
:shock:  Who was that who said that he was hoping to do 10 shows -not 50-
 and IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD and not just in London ? :shock:  :shock:
  Michael ?????
He was always hated touring and now he wants to tour ?????
If this is not an acting  then what is it ???????? :?  :?  :?
 :?   :?   :?   :?   :?
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: i_need YoU on January 15, 2010, 03:28:11 AM
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
:shock:  Who was that who said that he was hoping to do 10 shows -not 50-
 and IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE WORLD and not just in London ? :shock:  :shock:
  Michael ?????
He was always hated touring and now he wants to tour ?????
If this is not an acting  then what is it ???????? :?  :?  :?
 :?   :?   :?   :?   :?
he said that so long ago about not wanting to tour...ppl change their minds, esoecially since its been so long since his fans have seen him.
he probably wanted to do more shows outside of london and not all in one place was to go from place to place to give MORE people a chance to see him again...he was ready to come back and in order to do that he couldnt just stay in London...
This tour was highly important for him to get back in the spotlight if you know what i mean...just this one concert could make him HUGE all over again...it would have been AMAZING i have to say
But you know what else would have made him HUGE all over again??...and get his sales up all over again?? back in the spotlight???...thats right faking his death lol HOAX. Now he wont have to stress about how they went behind his back and changed the amount of shows. He can simply relax in peace and see how much his fans really love him. His sales have sky rocketed!!! Its crazy, he is HUGE all over again, he is back in the spotlight... :P
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: KINGdom52 on January 15, 2010, 04:01:47 AM
Maybe you're right @ I need you
and noe if he's watching us he must be very happy with all this LOVE for him !!!
I TRUST HIM ! I RESPECT HIM ! I LOVE HIM !

THE MAN IS MORE THAN GENIUS !!!! ;)   ;)   ;)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: MJresearch on January 15, 2010, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
My belief:These concerts were not meant to be,the hoax started at the 02 conference... ;)
Hm, I agree, Annie! Or, actually, I think it started last December with those rumors that he was sick and then that radio hoax-death prank thing that upset fans..;)

I agree to you, too!
IMO the best evidence is that the concerts were cancelled on June 10th (contract with AllGood Entertainment INC) and pushed back to July 2010  ;)   ;)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: lisap27 on January 15, 2010, 12:26:48 PM
i must admit i don't remember it on video but it was in them fan letters that were posted on the old forum.. they explained how he told them about the concerts etc.. and i think most people believed they were fake.. cos they claimed Mike trusted them and told them things..

anybody else remember this!!  :shock:
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Bee Bee on January 15, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
This just makes me think of this http://www.this-is-not-it.com (http://www.this-is-not-it.com) crap. Michael slowly dying and only telling his oh so trusted fans who can't help him because everybody else around him only wants his money. Right.  :roll:  That made me really angry. But if there is such a video, I really don't know if we can say the concert announcement was part of the hoax. I think it would make more sense to say that Michael did agree to do the 10 shows, but then, after hearing about the 50 shows, he decided he couldn't possibly do them. And he knew the media would've torn him apart had he cancelled those shows. He would've been looked at like a complete loser, that really would've been it... If Michael really thought these 50 shows would kill him, what would he do? Faking his death sounds plausible to me. :)
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: ER911 on January 15, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
An article which seemed to have some fact based info in it, stated that MJ only agree to 10 initially, but then agreed to the total of 50 later on.

However, since this was allegedly agreed upon, he was to to the 10 in london & the rest were to be spread out into feb in order to fulfill the contract.

Additionally the article stated that another reason for the push back was because MJ wanted children in the show(sorry forgot the details on that)

I did save the article, but due to time constraints here, i'll post them later if anyone so desires.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: mykidsmum on January 15, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
This just makes me think of this http://www.this-is-not-it.com (http://www.this-is-not-it.com) crap. Michael slowly dying and only telling his oh so trusted fans who can't help him because everybody else around him only wants his money. Right.  :roll:  That made me really angry. But if there is such a video, I really don't know if we can say the concert announcement was part of the hoax. I think it would make more sense to say that Michael did agree to do the 10 shows, but then, after hearing about the 50 shows, he decided he couldn't possibly do them. And he knew the media would've torn him apart had he cancelled those shows. He would've been looked at like a complete loser, that really would've been it... If Michael really thought these 50 shows would kill him, what would he do? Faking his death sounds plausible to me. :)
either way, if he died or hoaxed, the concert was a contributing factor.  I'm sure the change to 50 shows had him stressed and made his insomnia worse.  Either he found a way out by hoaxing or by relying on meds that would surely kill him.  He said in the video I am looking for that he was not a big eater and didn't know how he was going to do 50 shows without putting on weight.  By what we saw in This Is IT...He didn't put on weight...it was coming off!   I bet that was a huge anxiety for him.  If you look at all his concert tours...the first night compared to the last, he loses a LOT of weight...Thosse tight gold pants everyone loves...they were not so tight at the end.  If he was already skinny...He had no weight to lose!  No wonder Kenny was cutting his chicken for him...he was feeding the money horse!
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: Zen on January 15, 2010, 11:17:13 PM
I saw the video you are referencing before Michael "died"; because of that video, if he
didn't get out, all of this really contributed to his death.  Michael had almost a pleading look
on his face and in his voice..it was a haunting video that caused all great angst.  :cry:
If Michael is dead, this was the reason...and the reason they take it all down.  They don't
want' us to know or remember that he was forced to do it and it cause him his life.
If that is the case, then yes, smiling K. is just as guilty as the rest.   :evil:
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: juliet on January 15, 2010, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
Does anybody know who much MJ would have made off of 10 shows or 50 shows? If this is the cause 50 shows would not take 2 years to do, so why have dancers/singers ect under 2 year contract? Is Aeg holding them under contract or MJ?
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Here's something that I filed.  I can't seem to find my files that are from OMG cause they have changed some things.  Anyway, hope this will help help.

The principles at Colony were the same people who put together the London dates for Mr. Jackson's sold out fifty (50) show dates at London's state of the art O2 arena complex. In addition plans were in the works for a three-year world tour, show dates in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a $1 billion dollar Thriller casino.

If there were doubts about Mr. Jackson's popularity and ability to draw a crowd, that notion was soon put to rest as Mr. Jackson's shows in London sold out in record fashion. By some estimates his This Is It series of concert dates sold a ticket every eleven seconds for two days until 1 million seats had been sold.

It has been estimated by the Financial Times that these shows would have generated a total of $120-150 million with $US85 million in ticket sales alone, of which Mr. Jackson stood to make between $50-$100 million


I posted something in the old board about MJ Could Never Go Broke. Go and check it out.
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
Post by: juliet on January 15, 2010, 11:46:10 PM
And here's some additional info. from FOXNews.com.


/entertainment/2009/06/02/report-michael-jackson-says-hes-concert-tour
Updated June 02, 2009
Report: Michael Jackson Says He's Too Thin for 50-Concert Tour

The Sun
"I don't know how I'm going to do 50 shows. I'm not a big eater - I need to put some weight on," Jackson reportedly said
   
Michael Jackson has told fans he is angry with concert promoters for booking 50 shows in London.

The Thriller star told fans outside his Los Angeles dance studio he wanted to take his live extravaganza across the globe - and only perform a handful of gigs at the O2 arena in London.

But he didn't get his wish, and a deal was struck for Jacko's monster 50-date residency after the initial block of 10 he'd agreed to sold out.

He claims he only learned of the extra 40 bookings when he awoke to the news one morning.

The ailing King of Pop is now panicking he's not physically strong enough to cope with the grueling schedule, insisting his small appetite makes it hard for him to perform.

After practicing his moves at the Burbank Studios, Jacko, 50, greeted devoted fans waiting outside - and blew off some steam in the process.

"Thank you for your love and support, I want you guys to know I love you very much," he said, before adding, "I don't know how I'm going to do 50 shows. I'm not a big eater - I need to put some weight on
Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
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Title: Re: We Have to Find This For MJ
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