Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: billy06 on January 14, 2010, 11:19:39 AM
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MJ has paid millions, perhaps billions on furniture etc. and a huge mansion he was gonna rent during This Is It and TMZ reported this, along with pics and evidence.
Why would MJ pay so much for a tour he knew wouldnt happen?
this is making me lose the faith.. :(
Link: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-jacksons-insane-interior-design/
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Beacuse he have enough money and probably to get his health back.
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I just don't believe that MJ is broke.
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I thought AEG was going to rent that place for him
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Offcours he is not broke.Jermaine said once,dont now where anymore,sorry,that it was a rumor of the press.
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If I am not mistaken AEG (in the agreement) agreed to pay for MJs living expenses ect ect ect so...... but I truly do not believe for one minute that MJ was completley broke. Sure he had debts but ummm what celeb doesn't these days right?? I mean they do live a very lavish lifestyle. BUt I am almost possible I read somewhere that AEG was leasing this mansion for mJ and the kids. thanks :|
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I've read that AEG was renting or going to rent the place for him as part of the deal to do the concerts. It could all be made up if the concerts were never going to happen in the first place. Or if he decided not to do the concerts, I'm sure AEG could find a way to get out of a rental agreement. Don' lose faith yet :!: :!:
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im not saying hes broke lol. im saying why would he pay for so much stuff, for something that wont happen?
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or maybe the whole furniture stuff is not what he bought or not, but another subtle clue... if you look at the Tsar Nicolas chair replica, it has quite interesting symbol on it :?
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Yes, it's AEG who rented the place for Michael for 100 thousands per month (though it was said it was worse only 20 000). AEG hired Dr Murray for 100 000 a month for Mike. The tour too was going to be very expensive with plasma screens, fires , Michael even asked for Victoria falls . So I wonder ,why AEG agreed on such heavy expenses if they knew the tour won't start and now they keep silence and don't sue to the estate or don't ask for insuarance. By the way the dancers still have rehearsals ,who 's paying for it ?
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Maybe AEG agreed to pay so much because they knew that if MJ "died" they would get a HUGE return on their investment! ;)
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Maybe AEG agreed to pay so much because they knew that if MJ "died" they would get a HUGE return on their investment!
That's a thought ! They are sitting quietly and waiting Michael to come back and then.......
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The furniture company have said they have repaid Katherine some of the money??? So MJ must have paid for it... but the company have said they are auctioning the furniture off and with MJs name attached they will make more on the pieces than they are worth. So no-one seems to have lost out.
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(http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Raucher/smilie_smoke_020.gif) (http://www.smilies.4-user.de)I do not think she gets the money.
It's not even the estate settled ... this sum would not be paid! Not before, not now
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Michael lived a life without money.. HE had so much money, that he could do exactly what he wanted too..
And since 25th June, he have atleast made another 200M $ For sure.
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MJ had tons of money coming in because he owned a hell of a lot of music. Also neverland is sitting on a huge oil deposit haha. There is no way Michael was broke. It was just something planted in the media I'm sure.
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I agree with so many of the fine comments regarding MJ's money situation. I do not believe the media's reports that MJ was broke. Also, MJ's red velvet and gold-ormulu, Louis XIV style sofa for his bedroom is simply gorgeous. MJ's style is so delicious, adventurous, and bold. How I love MJ's avant-garde, iconic style.
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if you finish reading it clearly tells you that Katherine's lawyer Adam Streisand said "it's an outrageous lie that Mrs Jackson has not received even a cent. She's never even heard of these people.
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Michael never had to worry about money from the day he and Paul Macartney had the discution about buying catlologes, MJ owns alot of Sony lol and sony is not only into music, it's film, products ect. ;)
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or maybe the whole furniture stuff is not what he bought or not, but another subtle clue... if you look at the Tsar Nicolas chair replica, it has quite interesting symbol on it :?
You´re right, the double headed eagle reminds me a little of the "Phoenix" symbol on the official shirts:
(http://media.musictoday.com/store/bands/2134/product_medium/BGCTMJ90.JPG)
And the logo of Michael Jackson´s company 'Triumph International Inc' :
(http://www.markenblog.de/wp-content/jackson2.jpg)
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I think this company just uses the opportunity to promote themselves.
TMZ UPDATE: Katherine Jackson's lawyer, Adam Streisand, tells TMZ, "It's an outrageous lie that Mrs. Jackson has received even a cent. She's never even heard of these people."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-j ... z0cgDkgWeb (http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-jacksons-insane-interior-design/#ixzz0cgDkgWeb)
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or maybe the whole furniture stuff is not what he bought or not, but another subtle clue... if you look at the Tsar Nicolas chair replica, it has quite interesting symbol on it :?
There it is again... Maybe the furniture was really for him. :?
It's a masonic symbol, not exclusive, but also (for those, who didn't know that symbol).
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he was investing in his future estate
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PLEASE, here me out.
i know MJ was never broke. I mean he is a legend, with the highest sales for an album- Thriller. I'm just saying
Why would he pay (TMZ reports he paid for this, amybe not the renting of house, but the furniture) SO much money for furniture to place in a house he would never live in? If he knew that he was going to hoax his death, he wouldnt pay so much- im sure MJ knows how to handle his money.
To continue, i remember BOW (blackorwhite) saying how MJ's hoax was a last minute thing- MJ didnt plan for him to fake his death. If BOW is right, then it means that MJ didnt know about the fact that he will fake his death- therefore, he bought furniture etc. for his house that he was looking forward to living in- how was he to know that he would fake his death.
So therefore, it means that blackorwhite (please dont delete Mo and Souza, its just a quick thing, if you have prob Mo, Souza, please PM and i will edit post :) )CAN Be real? because if what BOW said was right about MJ's theory of him doing it at a last-minute, it means that MJ did not know, when he bought these items, that he would fake his death.
Finally, i still believe and trust Mo and Souza, i only trust Mo,Souza to BOW 99:1
So yeh, sorry for the long post but PLEASE READ :)
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If you look back on the many theories of this hoax, BoW's proposed story makes more sense than any of them, and can even include other "reasons." Michael obviously has considered this sort of "disappearance," in the past, but likely knew he couldn't pull it off, without serious consequences, due to having kids to protect, and the legal ramifications.
What if, as BoW suggested, he was confronted with a serious threat that involved the authorities, and used this as a legal excuse to do what he'd always wanted? To take advantage of the situation, and make this work for MANY reasons? As art, as a wake-up call, as a message, as a money-making opportunity, as a way of getting his good name back, as a way of bringing attention/money to his charities?
More than one "informer" has claimed Michael "seized the moment." What BoW described could have been exactly that: a real danger which would gain him the support of authorities, that could then be used to further many of his own dreams and ideas.
But that's enough of that silly talk...such thinking is not allowed, here.
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yeh BOW's story seems right, but we cant talk about it here, so lets stop now :)
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mike loved to shop, maybe he just wanted some special items around him in a strange house?
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Game Player » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:15 am
MJ had tons of money coming in because he owned a hell of a lot of music. Also neverland is sitting on a huge oil deposit haha. There is no way Michael was broke. It was just something planted in the media I'm sure
That's right! That I heard on youtube Dick Gregory discussed this.
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but there are different types of broke, you could be asset rich, but liquidity poor. This could have been the position.
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The furniture company have said they have repaid Katherine some of the money??? So MJ must have paid for it... but the company have said they are auctioning the furniture off and with MJs name attached they will make more on the pieces than they are worth. So no-one seems to have lost out.
You took the words out my "keyboard" hehe...Actually I think the furniture will sell for much more than 700K. I understand the OP's question, though. If MJ bought all of this and paid so much money, then why a hoax? But my wild imagination is telling me that maybe Michael bought the furniture because he knew a few months later someone was going to talk about it, and well, it would make his "death" look real. Remember, the money was returned to Katherine. Michael's not at a loss, but he sure knows that furniture isn't going to stay there somewhere at a storage...Thats gonna sell and for good money. Its what the "deceased" KOP wanted for his house! This may sound crazy, but hey, even some of the hoax believers are questioning the hoax because of this article...Why buy it if he was going to fake his death? This is the only explanation I can find that may support the hoax concerning this article. Then again, how do we know this is true? :?
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The furniture company have said they have repaid Katherine some of the money??? So MJ must have paid for it... but the company have said they are auctioning the furniture off and with MJs name attached they will make more on the pieces than they are worth. So no-one seems to have lost out.
You took the words out my "keyboard" hehe...Actually I think the furniture will sell for much more than 700K. I understand the OP's question, though. If MJ bought all of this and paid so much money, then why a hoax? But my wild imagination is telling me that maybe Michael bought the furniture because he knew a few months later someone was going to talk about it, and well, it would make his "death" look real. Remember, the money was returned to Katherine. Michael's not at a loss, but he sure knows that furniture isn't going to stay there somewhere at a storage...Thats gonna sell and for good money. Its what the "deceased" KOP wanted for his house! This may sound crazy, but hey, even some of the hoax believers are questioning the hoax because of this article...Why buy it if he was going to fake his death? This is the only explanation I can find that may support the hoax concerning this article. Then again, how do we know this is true? :?
i agree with you so much -- i am beginning to doubt now that MJ is alive. i am beginning to doubt that he faked his death. i am beginning to lose faith.
L.O.V.E
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The furniture company have said they have repaid Katherine some of the money??? So MJ must have paid for it... but the company have said they are auctioning the furniture off and with MJs name attached they will make more on the pieces than they are worth. So no-one seems to have lost out.
You took the words out my "keyboard" hehe...Actually I think the furniture will sell for much more than 700K. I understand the OP's question, though. If MJ bought all of this and paid so much money, then why a hoax? But my wild imagination is telling me that maybe Michael bought the furniture because he knew a few months later someone was going to talk about it, and well, it would make his "death" look real. Remember, the money was returned to Katherine. Michael's not at a loss, but he sure knows that furniture isn't going to stay there somewhere at a storage...Thats gonna sell and for good money. Its what the "deceased" KOP wanted for his house! This may sound crazy, but hey, even some of the hoax believers are questioning the hoax because of this article...Why buy it if he was going to fake his death? This is the only explanation I can find that may support the hoax concerning this article. Then again, how do we know this is true? :?
i agree with you so much -- i am beginning to doubt now that MJ is alive. i am beginning to doubt that he faked his death. i am beginning to lose faith.
L.O.V.E
Do not lose faith yet, hun. Like I asked earlier "How do we know this is true"? :) There is an update on TMZ page...Apparently Katherine has not received a cent, and she doesnt even know who these people are :)
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i think it is a story, that helps to keep his name out there. It also helps with the hoax, just in case someone wonders about Mj's new house having no furniture. It just helps to tie up the loose hoax threads.
Oh and why do they not have any furniture to show you, because it is a made up story, that's why.
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remember he also ordered pictures, maybe he ordered things like we order a take away?
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Michael Jackson spent more than $700,000 on all sorts of flamboyantly bizarre furniture before he died -- but now, it could be yours ... if the price is right.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-j ... z0d5gSUGVr (http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-jacksons-insane-interior-design/#ixzz0d5gSUGVr)
"Before he died" is a very vague.
Could be january, march ... even winter 2008.
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Michael Jackson spent more than $700,000 on all sorts of flamboyantly bizarre furniture before he died -- but now, it could be yours ... if the price is right.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-j ... z0d5gSUGVr (http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/michael-jacksons-insane-interior-design/#ixzz0d5gSUGVr)
"Before he died" is a very vague.
Could be january, march ... even winter 2008.
Exactly. We dont know WHEN he bought this stuff......or even IF he did. Maybe he bought it yrs ago...we dont know.
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when was the furniture ready? before the shows start date, what about shipping to london, would be surface and not air?
it should have been in situ at the time of death?
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Just because it was written, it does'nt make it factual.
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letstalkagain wrote: Just because it was written, it does'nt make it factual.
Exactly!!! These articles being leaked can all be part of the hoax to throw us off track, to start to doubt, to lose faith. Remember, these are tabloids throwing all this stuff out. And, if we believe TMZ is in on the hoax, they make the perfect rumor machine. Of course, we cannot forget the News of the World, the largest tabloid rag in England, just happens to get leaked the "final and 7th CD.
"As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect"
"Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable"
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MJ had tons of money coming in because he owned a hell of a lot of music. Also neverland is sitting on a huge oil deposit haha. There is no way Michael was broke. It was just something planted in the media I'm sure.
Hi Game Player....
I found very interesting that there is OIL under neverland ....
Could you please tell me where do you get this info?
Thanx
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what if....he was compulsive shopper and bought this stuff a long time ago...and now hates it! Who said when it was bought?
I did read on a post last night a brief description of the contract from AEG written by Mr. Leonard Rowe , if it is true...Michael was paying for all of his expenses viewtopic.php?f=49&t=10684 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=10684)
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MJ had tons of money coming in because he owned a hell of a lot of music. Also neverland is sitting on a huge oil deposit haha. There is no way Michael was broke. It was just something planted in the media I'm sure.
Hi Game Player....
I found very interesting that there is OIL under neverland ....
Could you please tell me where do you get this info?
Thanx
I remember there is a link about MJ. Dick Gregory is speaking on this and I can't remember exactly for sure. If I find I will forward to you but it is on Youtube.
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Think about it.
Would he just toss a lawn chair in his living room if he was gonna hoax his death? People would say "That Wa**o Ja**o was so broke!"
Why not go out with class?
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but there are different types of broke, you could be asset rich, but liquidity poor. This could have been the position.
You're totally right, "the arabian nights".
AEG didn't do anything for MJ out of the goodness of their heart! They were going to suck MJ dry. Michael WAS having financial difficulties - which is exactly why AEG could corner him and push Thome Thome and Murray on him etc. And that's the same reason why SONY could take advantage and get 25% of MJ's Sony/ATV catalog. (As of June 25, 2009 MJ owned only 25% of the catalog, down from 50%.) And Michael agreeing to do 10 concerts in London also had to do with his financial situation... He needed money!
I'm getting this information from "The Trials of MJ" and "What really happened to MJ"... Not sure if everything in those books is accurate, but a lot of things make sense. They actually make A LOT of sense, which is scary!