Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: MJhunny on January 13, 2010, 03:48:18 PM
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BOW topics keep getting deleted ...Because as our admins explained "it's clearly a lying troll and we, the members need protection from such people"
NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!
I think we, the members can decide that for ourselves what we believe or not!!!
Why keep up TS's posts on TIAI??? Does this person have flowers growing out of a certain body part where the sun never shines?????
Is this a forum where multiple theories and beliefs can be discussed or not??
Plenty of members would like to keep seeing the updates on BOW!!!
Seriously , we are not six year olds here, stop treating us as such please...
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i agree with you! in my opinion, this all looks very familiar (MJHD).
anyways, i can't say that i believe fully in BOW...but as investigators, we are to keep an open mind.
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Yes then you should also please delete these topics regarding trolls
*MJ* on LKL blog
Michael **LOVE on lkl blog
MJ2010 on twitter topic
Midnightmilk topic
I can go on and on i do not see why these ones were kept here and BOW deleted.. I personally dont believe BOW but i made my own mind up about that....
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I agree..
Why believe TIAI and not BOW?
Personally, I am open minded to both of them and I'm glad we're allowed to discuss TIAI on here.
But I'm confused about why BOW got deleted.
I'm just curious.. Do we have proof BOW is a troll? And do we have proof that TIAI is the real deal? How do we know TIAI isn't lying to us?
I don't think BOW was upsetting anyone (I hope not).. So I don't understand why the threads got deleted :S
I'm not arguing with Mo and Souza's decision.. I'd just like a little more explanation because this is reminding me of what happened to MJHD just before it got shut down :?
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i agree with you! in my opinion, this all looks very familiar (MJHD).
anyways, i can't say that i believe fully in BOW...but as investigators, we are to keep an open mind.
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the explanation was only this" we believe BOW to be a troll, telling lies and feel we need to protect our members from things like this"
Why is that BOW a certified troll?? Evidence would be nice...
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BOW was interesting, and I think we've learned to take things with a huge grain of salt from anyone who claims to have inside info.
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I couldn't agree more!!!!
I just opened the topic about "Why the BOW-Threads got deleted" and then my topic was gone. I wrote a message to "MO", still awaiting an answer! :shock:
Many of us are very interested, what BOW has to say and it's getting more interesting meanwhile. She says, Michael is in L.A. together with his kids now. One thing gives me a really good feeling: In fact the children haven't been seen for a while :P
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i agree with you! in my opinion, this all looks very familiar (MJHD).
anyways, i can't say that i believe fully in BOW...but as investigators, we are to keep an open mind.
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whether we believe BOW or not, i just think they could give us a little more credit...
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the explanation was only this" we believe BOW to be a troll, telling lies and feel we need to protect our members from things like this"
Why is that BOW a certified troll?? Evidence would be nice...
If there is NO proof BOW is a troll then all the other topics should have been deleted too.. There are soo many trolls regarding MJ and the Hoax anyway..Not really fair to delete just BOW i remember a time when **MJ on LKL blog was causing quite a stir too and then that youtube person....and cassandra gretchen sims WE make up our own minds thats why we came here because WE decided that MJ was alive WE did not listen to the media....
Im 33 NOT 10 yrs old and i have a fully functioning brain!!!!!!
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I agree..
TS's cr*p is allowed, but other trolls aren't..weird.
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yes I read an update on BOW this morning and as I was looking for it a couple of min ago I could'nt find it
!!! then I found a thread saying why wasit deleted when I wanted to open it it shut down :shock:
why are they doing this ?? whats wrong with her posts??
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the explanation was only this" we believe BOW to be a troll, telling lies and feel we need to protect our members from things like this"
Why is that BOW a certified troll?? Evidence would be nice...
exactly...just as much as we don't have 100% proof that she's genuine, we don't have 100% proof that she's a troll either. i would imagine that as much as we complain about the unfairness and belittling that has just taken place, nothing will really be done about it. :|
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I think it's terrible that just because the mods decide they don't believe, then the rest of the people aren't given the chance to decide for themselves, people on here have minds of their own and don't need people to make decisions for them, although i don't believe BOW it's unfair to treat people like idiots, and after all it's the members here who make the forum what it is.
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i agree, we want the BOW topics back. they cant do that its OUR choice.
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It just shows what they think of the members on here.
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When are people going to open their eyes to the truth?
Look at Dave Dave's myspace page......
Aren't people tired of the games regarding this hoax yet? Seriously? Don't people just want to know the friggin truth without being played with?
The only way to even SLIGHTLY come close to that is by THINKING for yourselves..
How can you think for yourselves if you are easily manipulated by people who enjoy messing with your heads...
This is ridiculous and this is EXACTLY what happened at MJHD before it went south.
My forum isn't much to be honest with you, but we have workgroups and people that take this seriously. Everybody is treated the same and respected. Everybody is given the choice to read what they want and threads are NEVER deleted only locked if they get out of hand..
Get on our level... lol j/k but seriously.. Aren't people tired of the drama here yet?
This place used to be AMAZING. what happened?? It makes me sad :(
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When are people going to open their eyes to the truth?
Look at Dave Dave's myspace page......
Aren't people tired of the games regarding this hoax yet? Seriously? Don't people just want to know the friggin truth without being played with?
The only way to even SLIGHTLY come close to that is by THINKING for yourselves..
How can you think for yourselves if you are easily manipulated by people who enjoy messing with your heads...
This is ridiculous and this is EXACTLY what happened at MJHD before it went south.
My forum isn't much to be honest with you, but we have workgroups and people that take this seriously. Everybody is treated the same and respected. Everybody is given the choice to read what they want and threads are NEVER deleted only locked if they get out of hand..
Get on our level... lol j/k but seriously.. Aren't people tired of the drama here yet?
This place used to be AMAZING. what happened?? It makes me sad :(
Yes im tired i am leaving here this is my last day i wont come back.. This is the final straw!!!!!
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When are people going to open their eyes to the truth?
Look at Dave Dave's myspace page......
Aren't people tired of the games regarding this hoax yet? Seriously? Don't people just want to know the friggin truth without being played with?
The only way to even SLIGHTLY come close to that is by THINKING for yourselves..
How can you think for yourselves if you are easily manipulated by people who enjoy messing with your heads...
This is ridiculous and this is EXACTLY what happened at MJHD before it went south.
My forum isn't much to be honest with you, but we have workgroups and people that take this seriously. Everybody is treated the same and respected. Everybody is given the choice to read what they want and threads are NEVER deleted only locked if they get out of hand..
Get on our level... lol j/k but seriously.. Aren't people tired of the drama here yet?
This place used to be AMAZING. what happened?? It makes me sad :(
What is your forum?
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Yes im tired i am leaving here this is my last day i wont come back.. This is the final straw!!!!![/quote]
Checkkkkkkkkk us out :)
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BOW topics keep getting deleted ...Because as our admins explained "it's clearly a lying troll and we, the members need protection from such people"
NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!
I think we, the members can decide that for ourselves what we believe or not!!!
Why keep up TS's posts on TIAI??? Does this person have flowers growing out of a certain body part where the sun never shines?????
Is this a forum where multiple theories and beliefs can be discussed or not??
Plenty of members would like to keep seeing the updates on BOW!!!
Seriously , we are not six year olds here, stop treating us as such please...
Okay, erm ... YOU GO GIRL!!!!! :lol: :D
Seriously, this is waaayyy too controlling. Stop making our bloody decisions for us Mo!! I understand perfectly well this is your forum, but your reasons for deleting any BoW-related topics are completely ridiculous.
SOME of us actually want to hear this girl out, and how are we going to find out anything if you keep slamming down everything YOU think is inappropriate when it could lead to a potential clue of some sort?? Damn!!!
We're not little kids and this is a forum = a team. TEAM WORK. Get real hun.
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yes I read an update on BOW this morning and as I was looking for it a couple of min ago I could'nt find it
!!! then I found a thread saying why wasit deleted when I wanted to open it it shut down :shock:
why are they doing this ?? whats wrong with her posts??
Whats wrong with her posts?? Hmmm, I would have to say could it be because she's not into the whole mind controlling, brainwashing, illuminati, end of the world, NWO thing???
Personally, i've read peoples post's on this forum regarding those issues,and they were pretty upset and freaked out by all that stuff,even having nightmares. And then others tell them "then don't read those post's" If anything we too should be able to decide what we wan't to read or not. I did 'nt get nightmares from reading BOW's posts, any of you???
Was she using foul language??Was she/he contacting anyone here ,trying to lure them to
dark forests and such?? If so , speak up!
It all comes down to a little explanation on why she was considered a troll IMO
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Yes im tired i am leaving here this is my last day i wont come back.. This is the final straw!!!!![/quote]
Checkkkkkkkkk us out :)[/quote]
Forum?? Which one please??
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but you better hurry cuz im sure this will be locked in like two seconds or deleted lol
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but you better hurry cuz im sure this will be locked in like two seconds or deleted lol
Joining right now
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http://thedeathofmj.forumotion.com/index.htm
but you better hurry cuz im sure this will be locked in like two seconds or deleted lol
Thanks girl see you there xxxxxx :D
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To Mo and Souza i find this a very fitting farewell gift
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o)
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thanks Kim leah... they are not respectfull to us.
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I've lost a lot of respect for you Mo... But thanks for creating a forum where I've met a lot of fantastic people. Apart from that, your reputation is pretty much sinking...
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MO and SOUZA please delete all of my information from this board please... :evil:
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still waiting for decent explanation...
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First of all, this is OUR home and you are a GUEST here, yet you are spitting on it.
If you want to discuss these kind of things, you are free to leave this forum and make your own.
On this forum WE decide what we delete and what not. I am seriously sick and tired of all the 'MJHD' kind of drama on here. If you don't like it, just leave. We know what we are doing, if you don't trust us, here is the place to be for you:
http://michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/search.php?sid=58ba84d6232619661d4c656cfa6a9ba5
I couldn't care less who will stick here and you will not. Anyone here being disrespectful to whoever, will be deactivated immediately.
I will not lock this thread, use it for all your bashing and show others your true colors, but don't make any new ones.
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Okay, erm ... YOU GO GIRL!!!!! :lol: :D
Seriously, this is waaayyy too controlling. Stop making our bloody decisions for us Mo!! I understand perfectly well this is your forum, but your reasons for deleting any BoW-related topics are completely ridiculous.
SOME of us actually want to hear this girl out, and how are we going to find out anything if you keep slamming down everything YOU think is inappropriate when it could lead to a potential clue of some sort?? Damn!!!
We're not little kids and this is a forum = a team. TEAM WORK. Get real hun.
You're right, this is our forum, and we don't want these threads here anymore. You are very welcome to visit blackorwhite's forum if you want to hear this girl out.
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still waiting for decent explanation...
maybe my thinking is far fetched....but could it be that BOW WAS really on to something, and we are being diverted from the truth? just a possibility...
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still waiting for decent explanation...
maybe my thinking is far fetched....but could it be that BOW WAS really on to something, and we are being diverted from the truth? just a possibility...
Are you serious?! :shock: :shock: :? :?
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still waiting for decent explanation...
LOL. I doubt what they define as "decent" is what they've already posted. I wouldn't put your hopes up.
And no Souza, I really don't trust you. Not anymore. How are we spitting on it?? We deserve at least a DECENT explanation, except all we get is that it is your decision and that it is "for the best", etc. What's with all this shit? How can we trust you if you go around deleting topics that could be seriously helpful to our investigation?? There's no I in TEAM.
THOSE ARE MY TRUE COLOURS. :D :lol:
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This is "their "forum, and we are but "guests"...
So in other words"they" decide what we can or can not discuss
what's wrong with that...
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First of all, this is OUR home and you are a GUEST here, yet you are spitting on it.
If you want to discuss these kind of things, you are free to leave this forum and make your own.
On this forum WE decide what we delete and what not. I am seriously sick and tired of all the 'MJHD' kind of drama on here. If you don't like it, just leave. We know what we are doing, if you don't trust us, here is the place to be for you:
http://michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/search.php?sid=58ba84d6232619661d4c656cfa6a9ba5
I couldn't care less who will stick here and you will not. Anyone here being disrespectful to whoever, will be deactivated immediately.
I will not lock this thread, use it for all your bashing and show others your true colors, but don't make any new ones.
It's you two showing your true colours, talk about ungrateful, it's not just you two who post "evidence" etc its all the members who contribute to this forum who make it what it is, you have both just shot yourselves in the foot and alot of members are gonna loose respect for you now.
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still waiting for decent explanation...
LOL. I doubt what they define as "decent" is what they've already posted. I wouldn't put your hopes up.
And no Souza, I really don't trust you. Not anymore. How are we spitting on it?? We deserve at least a DECENT explanation, except all we get is that it is your decision and that it is "for the best", etc. What's with all this shit? How can we trust you if you go around deleting topics that could be seriously helpful to our investigation?? There's no I in TEAM.
THOSE ARE MY TRUE COLOURS. :D :lol:
Good luck with it, you might need them on the other board.
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"Why keep up TS's posts on TIAI??? Does this person have flowers growing out of a certain body part where the sun never shines?????"
:lol:
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I don't believe that BOW person at all.
And some people react so childish here... :roll:
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:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Me too I was always interested in BOW and we have freedom of speech and we can make our own minds up on wether it is rubbish or not we can think and woerk it out so had libirian girl not been allowed to post the followups to BOW have not been here for a day
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Me too I was always interested in BOW and we have freedom of speech and we can make our own minds up on wether it is rubbish or not we can think and woerk it out so had libirian girl not been allowed to post the followups to BOW have not been here for a day
not to mention, liberiangirl did put a LOT of effort in posting everything for us.
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I dont want everyone to leave.
This month is the month, guys. I really think we going to get nearer the truth and we have all worked so hard to investigate MJs disappearance.
You guys have been awesome and i am always amazed at what people unearth and post on here.
Im sad everyone is upset and saying they are leaving the forum.
This has been an amazing forum to be a part of. :(
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Please ! Don't leave this forum !
Like DancingTheDream said, we are near the truth, don't give up now please !!!! :(
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I dont want everyone to leave.
This month is the month, guys. I really think we going to get nearer the truth and we have all worked so hard to investigate MJs disappearance.
You guys have been awesome and i am always amazed at what people unearth and post on here.
Im sad everyone is upset and saying they are leaving the forum.
This has been an amazing forum to be a part of. :(
Maybe with all these people leaving, we will finally get the "pre MJHD hack" atmosphere back. We don't have any problem with members leaving, we rather have them leaving than staying here stirring things up.
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I dont want everyone to leave.
This month is the month, guys. I really think we going to get nearer the truth and we have all worked so hard to investigate MJs disappearance.
You guys have been awesome and i am always amazed at what people unearth and post on here.
Im sad everyone is upset and saying they are leaving the forum.
This has been an amazing forum to be a part of. :(
You're right...same here,let's not break our family... :(
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I agree with you Mo.
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First of all, this is OUR home and you are a GUEST here, yet you are spitting on it.
If you want to discuss these kind of things, you are free to leave this forum and make your own.
On this forum WE decide what we delete and what not. I am seriously sick and tired of all the 'MJHD' kind of drama on here. If you don't like it, just leave. We know what we are doing, if you don't trust us, here is the place to be for you:
http://michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum
I couldn't care less who will stick here and you will not. Anyone here being disrespectful to whoever, will be deactivated immediately.
I will not lock this thread, use it for all your bashing and show others your true colors, but don't make any new ones.
I'm with you Souza. I mean, guys, they've got every right to delete topics , it is their forum and they put a lot of efforts to make it the way it is. If you want to follow BOW you can do that on the forum where she posts. No need to react like that IMO.
I'm here and I stay cos I respect the "double Dutch" and I trust them ;)
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maybe they know a little something about BOW that we dont? hmm
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Good luck with it, you might need them on the other board.[/quote]
lol oh so you got jokes Souza?
Keep it up. You think that your little NWO/Illuminati blog post was interesting?
After the "truth blog" is posted about you two, you'll be lucky if the smileys are still at this forum. Have your fun and make people feel small for now.
I hope to god that you are ready for the serious karma that you have coming your way.
You got abot 14:59 seconds left of your fame.
Speaking of true colors, the way you disrespect your members is unbelievable. I'm amazed that people are actually in this thread defending you.. But soak it up. They won't be for long :)
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Im okay with the BOW topics being gone, we really need to take them with a grain of salt. Its good to read and discuss informer posts but its also better not to rely to heavily on the information. Anyways..wheres MJ?? :D
PS..I enjoyed reading the BOW topics..
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oh my gosh I can't believe this! I don't understand why we should not have the option to discuss BOW here... she never tried to force anything on us. To my knowledge she has never even posted on here before right? I am quite dissappointed as I love seeing everyone's opinions on it. I have read a lot of stuff on this forum that I don't necessarily agree with, but everyone has a right to their opinion. I would never tell anyone their opinion is invalid b/c I don't believe it.... why are some far fetched topics allowed, but not BOW? Did something happen we are not aware of. I understand us "guests" don't own the forum, but I thought we were all on the same team here. I thought we were 1 big MJ lovin family with the ultimate goal of investigating the hoax and contribute all of our ideas... We should all feel welcome, not like we don't matter. What happened to all the L.O.V.E. people!
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The L.O.V.E. left this forum when there were people that found it more interesting to investigate US instead of the hoax.
Like I said: we have our reasons to delete topics and we don't ALWAYS have to explain ourselves, I did that too many times already.
Again: if you do not trust our decisions you are free to leave. If you are being dirrespectful, I am pleased to help you a little.
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The L.O.V.E. left this forum when there were people that found it more interesting to investigate US instead of the hoax.
Like I said: we have our reasons to delete topics and we don't ALWAYS have to explain ourselves, I did that too many times already.
Again: if you do not trust our decisions you are free to leave. If you are being dirrespectful, I am pleased to help you a little.
I think Souza and Mo knows someting we dont know about BOW, and they dont want to dishearten us. Maybe we should trust them?
L.O.V.E
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Since this is the thread where we officially get to show our true colors, let me chime in that I feel for the people who wanted to discuss BOW.
I never looked at those threads again after the first time, but what I read then was no worse, less believable, or more ridiculous than the stuff on the Illuminati/Mind Control thread started by this forum's two owners, which is currently on its 13th page with over 300 comments.
Although I have no interest in BOW, I COMPLETELY understand why certain forum members are highly offended right now, and I'm sure there are others who feel your "pain," as well.
It's really unfair when you devote a lot of time and effort to a thread, only to have it go *POOF!* with NO explanation beforehand or time allotted to save the comments that were already made. I would feel disrespected and mistreated, too.
I'm sorry you all have to go through this, and for the umpteenth time if you were also a member of the old MJHD(s).
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The L.O.V.E. left this forum when there were people that found it more interesting to investigate US instead of the hoax.
Like I said: we have our reasons to delete topics and we don't ALWAYS have to explain ourselves, I did that too many times already.
Again: if you do not trust our decisions you are free to leave. If you are being dirrespectful, I am pleased to help you a little.
Why are you so angry with us i have been away for a day due to server probs and was looking forward to being back and i am shocked to see the posts I hoped we are all here to find the truth about Michael and to behave like Michael and the way he would be proud of us so what is going on why the bile please be kind as I have always said please.
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I dont want everyone to leave.
This month is the month, guys. I really think we going to get nearer the truth and we have all worked so hard to investigate MJs disappearance.
You guys have been awesome and i am always amazed at what people unearth and post on here.
Im sad everyone is upset and saying they are leaving the forum.
This has been an amazing forum to be a part of. :(
Maybe with all these people leaving, we will finally get the "pre MJHD hack" atmosphere back. We don't have any problem with members leaving, we rather have them leaving than staying here stirring things up.
I agree with you Mo. To be honest, it's not the nice place that it used to be anymore since the 'dead' of MJHD....
There are a lot of suspicious/childish/rude/offtopic/irrelevant etc posts since then.
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pleaseeee.don't all leave!!!
We can go on checking on BOW site,and not talking about it here!If Mo and SOuza don't want :cry:
...but meanwhile we can make our own idea!!!
I already missed some of the members of old MJHD forum,now if you go.. I am lost again...
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Guys please don't leave :(
We've been here so long and this, I feel, is the final hurdle! We're so close to the end.
Maybe just take a little break from here if it's stressing you.
Souza and Mo:
We're not trying to be disrespectful.. We're all just really confused and feel a bit lost :| .
I'm worried.. This started happening before MJHD got shut down and I don't want the same to happen here.
We're all just a little stressed out cos this has gone on so long and I'm wondering when the heck it's meant to end :lol: .
I'm not trying to insult you guys, I just feel a little lost with this whole thing :?
We need a bit more of an explanation..
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Since this is the thread where we officially get to show our true colors, let me chime in that I feel for the people who wanted to discuss BOW.
I never looked at those threads again after the first time, but what I read then was no worse, less believable, or more ridiculous than the stuff on the Illuminati/Mind Control thread started by this forum's two owners, which is currently on its 13th page with over 300 comments.
Although I have no interest in BOW, I COMPLETELY understand why certain forum members are highly offended right now, and I'm sure there are others who feel your "pain," as well.
It's really unfair when you devote a lot of time and effort to a thread, only to have it go *POOF!* with NO explanation beforehand or time allotted to save the comments that were already made. I would feel disrespected and mistreated, too.
I'm sorry you all have to go through this, and for the umpteenth time if you were also a member of the old MJHD(s).
Thanks I agree I was a member of the old mjhd and have been here at my computor for months and maybe BOW was not trust worthy or maybe she was but we all have the right to deciede I cant see why it has upset people so much I have been on the site that BOW is on and I find it confusing so I just waited for the tranlations and now that has all gone.
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Sorry ,Mo and SOUZA .I could get to the forum at last and now look for explanation why it all occured.I understand everything and not going to continue BOW theme( though it was too interesting and looked 50/50 true for me). As I remember LiberianGirl started BOW theme and now she started TIAI theme too . To divert our attention I think. Sorry again( for my bad english too). I stop here.
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Guys please don't leave :(
We've been here so long and this, I feel, is the final hurdle! We're so close to the end.
Maybe just take a little break from here if it's stressing you.
Souza and Mo:
We're not trying to be disrespectful.. We're all just really confused and feel a bit lost :| .
I'm worried.. This started happening before MJHD got shut down and I don't want the same to happen here.
We're all just a little stressed out cos this has gone on so long and I'm wondering when the heck it's meant to end :lol: .
I'm not trying to insult you guys, I just feel a little lost with this whole thing :?
We need a bit more of an explanation
We are NOT shutting down, and we already made it very clear why the BOW threads were deleted.
We understand people were stressed when the site wasn't working properly, but that's no excuse for some of the reactions we have seen in this thread. I don't mean YOUR reply MJ-Fan, I wish more people would have had the same attitude as yours when they hit the reply button.
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I think we should all be calm nd wait and see what happens as you say we can check on BOW ourselves I will not be leaving maybe it is for a good reason that this has happened.
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guys wake up! those members are NOT leaving! they have been banned from here!
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guys wake up! those members are NOT leaving! they have been banned from here!
Oh yes, the nasty ones are banned, that is no secret at all. Wish them good luck from me.
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honestly, lets just trust Mo and Souza, and if you want to check BOW updates, go for it :
http://michaeljacksongold.forumfree.it/
Why would Mo and Souza lie about BOW? they are probably right :)
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guys wake up! those members are NOT leaving! they have been banned from here!
but why what have they done i have missed a lot in a day so they know BOW is a complete fake she started tiai or am i wrong have we all been lead up the garden path
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i dont think they 100 percent know. its just it is starting to get a it obvious.
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hmmm wtf? LMAO why in the h-e double hockey sticks are you guys acting like this? and NOW?!!!! I cant help but laugh,but out of frustraion,I dont even know who BOW is but Im just reading and Im amazed at...how uncontainable some peoples feelings are.Im disappointed,yea,kinda because its almost THAT DAY and people are sad,angry and upset.WHY? why the heck now? you know when it happens,where you gonna come? ok then.IMO you all should stop arguing....please dont bash me either(this does feel like MJHD lol) but im just saying..im confused as to WHY NOW? I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO OPEN YOUR FRICKIN EYES...please?
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Oh lol BOW is blackorwhite...i dont really know what they say but i think ive seen it,,,,ive been gone wayy too long lol*catching up* its so hectic here
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yes the timing is odd
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Thanks I agree I was a member of the old mjhd and have been here at my computor for months and maybe BOW was not trust worthy or maybe she was but we all have the right to deciede I cant see why it has upset people so much I have been on the site that BOW is on and I find it confusing so I just waited for the tranlations and now that has all gone.
Thank you, mumof3. It's good to see that I'm not the only sensible, mature member of this forum.
And, yes, the "nasty" ones are definitely getting banned (LOL!!!) and not necessarily leaving voluntarily. It's truly sad that this is the best the two owners of this forum can do.
I feel very, very badly for the people who rely on these forums to get them through a difficult time by sharing and engaging with like-minded individuals. Somehow, the very purpose of these types of forums are getting lost in the muck and big egos, at least on certain websites.
Where does Michael Jackson and his possibly faked death fit in?
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Thanks I agree I was a member of the old mjhd and have been here at my computor for months and maybe BOW was not trust worthy or maybe she was but we all have the right to deciede I cant see why it has upset people so much I have been on the site that BOW is on and I find it confusing so I just waited for the tranlations and now that has all gone.
Thank you, mumof3. It's good to see that I'm not the only sensible, mature member of this forum.
And, yes, the "nasty" ones are definitely getting banned (LOL!!!) and not necessarily leaving voluntarily. It's truly sad that this is the best the two owners of this forum can do.
I feel very, very badly for the people who rely on these forums to get them through a difficult time by sharing and engaging with like-minded individuals. Somehow, the very purpose of these types of forums are getting lost in the muck and big egos, at least on certain websites.
Where does Michael Jackson and his possibly faked death fit in?
well said! I could not agree more!
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I have to say I was also shocked... I remember the old site .. how we were not allowed to talk about anything .. I thought it was different here :roll:
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well ive read the 3 pages and have debted in my head bout what i was going to say. now this is a popular board, with many topics active holding may clues and several more in the archives, and heck even the old MJHD archives, and we lose how many ?..... 2.....maybe 3 topics. i really didnt buy into the whole BOW thing, but some things did intrigue me, but im sure that 99.9% of us are members on other boards also and im sure they have the details of the BOW and whatever else was taken away, they can be seen there ( not trying to push anyone to other boards). at first i thought with the board being down for a day it was a bit crazy and everyone is just panicking about maybe the site being hacked and all that. but if everyone just took a few minutes to chill out and just think right there are better things to look at than moan about mods deleting stuff without notice, but they do own the board and really have the power to do so.
so with that being said, lets just all calm down and get on with the business and find the truth.
Thank You.
:)
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I disagree with a lot of you. There are so many trolls on here, and that makes it difficult to believe anyone. Too many people come on here with these huge claims, and no proof to back it up. We don't need to be judgmental toward Mo and Souza for doing this, because they deal with trolls all the time.They are just being safe. If you guys are so upset about their decision, don't come on here complaining. BOW has a forum as well, so go there. We don't own this site, and therefore it is not our decision on whether or not something should be deleted. Yes, we contribute to it, but we don't run this place. Mo and Souza put a lot of time and work into this, and for people to be bashing them like this is ridiculous.
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I believed in BOW but i not going to creat a whole different thread discussing how MO deleted it and complain and even quit. Sorry its a waste of our investigation...and once again you point fingers and complain that they are behind something? You are wasting time on here complaining about BOW being gone...when really you go right now visit other threads and put your valueable opinion in them rather then sit her and nag all night. This is Mo and Sauza's forum therefore they can do what they want without any explanation...We are probably wasting our time on BOW anyways...
Where did the love go you guys?...seems when this forum first opened up everyone got along..but seems after more then 2000 join no one can get along?...how is this making a change. Yes I know with that many people there are going to be differences in beliefs and opinions but you guys need to learn to deal with it. This is like a mini world in here and we are jumping down each others throats! Now stop wasting your time on someone doing the research for you and just running back and telling you and do it yourself...makes things more interesting i say :)...
But people who do decide to leave fine by me because if ya leave then ya can take your drama and open up more threads that are just a waste of time on other forums...your call
I still love you though, really. :D
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The L.O.V.E. left this forum when there were people that found it more interesting to investigate US instead of the hoax.
Like I said: we have our reasons to delete topics and we don't ALWAYS have to explain ourselves, I did that too many times already.
Again: if you do not trust our decisions you are free to leave. If you are being dirrespectful, I am pleased to help you a little.
I think Souza and Mo knows someting we dont know about BOW, and they dont want to dishearten us. Maybe we should trust them?
L.O.V.E
I'm wondering if this is because bow says this site is still run by the same staff as the old site? she was discussing who was "really" behind this site ...
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I was looking out for my post about BoW everywhere :lol:
Geez some people are LYING and BoW is probably not one of them but I'm SURE of the ones who are lying! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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GUYS I can't say i agry with BOW , only 50/50 , but I couldn't buy TIAI for sure too . BOW's story seems more natural for me , we could easily catch clues off it though she said herself some clues were to divert our attention and some to redirect us to another path to investigate more. As for TIAI ...It's a good done work interesting to read but IMO it's too complicated, too religious...So i doubt it 50/50 too. I don't know why they think BOW doesn't tell the truth and TIAI does. It's only my opinion.
By the way on the other MJHD forum I read somewhere that mayby one of the Jacksons family is behind TIAI.
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I'm not a trouble maker .. and even in my everyday life I treat people with respect.. I came to this site because I always liked Souza & MO .. and felt they were mistreated at the old site.. I always felt they put a lot of work into their theories.. whether I believed in them or not was irrelevant...I felt I should have the freedom of choice and they should have the freedom of speech.. and I felt anyone that disagreed or didn't like what they posted should just not read it.. I think this is why I am so disappointed in the BOW thing.. because I believe bow should be entitled to the same respect that I believed, back then, that Mo and Souza should have had
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Yeah... I was kind of upset about this. Whether BOW was a troll or not, they provided a lot of helpful information that I had never heard before, and I liked the threads on here, because they translated them, and I can't speak italian and every translator I tried didn't make sense.
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are people trying to say that midnightmilk is MJ?
If so, I can't hardly believe that. I mean like how disrespectful is that? Like if I, personally, was a celeb who had a problem with drugs, faked my death, I don't know if I would make my screen name to be junkie or pothead or something derogatory. I just find it so sad.
So I know on the news, mind you, they said that propofol was Michael's midnight milk and thats what he would call it. Why would Michael (if he's alive and wants to communicate via internet) make up a screen name like MidnightMilk? Just seems a little insensitive.
y'know?
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since my thread was deleted (for obvious reasons), ill just post it on here & "show my true colors"...
To be honest with you all, I was 50/50 on this BOW user from the Italian forum.
However, I did very much appreciate the effort LiberianGirl went through just to post the translations for us.
Mo & Souza deleted the threads, as mentioned in their message (that was locked). Obviously, everyone is frustrated with their decision. This is THEIR home, we are the GUESTS.
Am I the only one disturbed by that comment?
I thought GUESTS were the unregistered users. WE have become MEMBERS on your so-called "home." WE decided to contribute to this forum, to display our thoughts, agree to agree or agree to disagree with fellow members. Now Mo & Souza deleted the thread, what does this mean? It means that THEY decide what WE believe in. Is that not weird? They post blogs about their theories and if anyone disagrees, they tell us to "do our homework" or simply disrespect us to make us feel inferior to them. How is this in any way professional of admins? Just because they are the admins, I guess we are less of people than them. THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. They both say real smart remarks in attempt to ridicule us. They both drill into us the whole TIAI concept, the whole Alter Egos of Michael (which I may say was a little...disturbing in how Michael apparently played the whole "female alter ego" when nourishing Blanket in the 'Living With Bashir' interviews; i thought that was just called parenting?) ...yet we cannot post about theories of this user named BOW. They both immediately labeled her as a troll (how mature?). Yes, her theories may not be true at all, just like Mo's & Souza's. What is the difference then? Just because Mo & Souza are lengthy in extreme, maybe too far-fetched, details in their theories? Why create a forum if they are not willing to listen to their members, who try hard to stay faithful to them? If they are not willing to listen, then just create a blog of your theories, with YOUR OWN INPUTS, eliminating the frustration of others if members' theories are opposed to or deleted.
I most likely will get banned, which i do not mind. Why? I found a home...michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net. I love it there. People are welcomed there, people are friendly there. The admins and moderators put so much effort to make us feel respected and be respected.
Here, why support a forum where we are restricted to what we contribute? Why support a forum where we are attacked by the admins if we disagree with them? Why support a forum where we have to be so meticulous in what we posts, afraid if we get banned, attacked, or humiliated?
I am so disgusted by what is occurring. No, members are not being childish with this occurrence. We simply are fighting for what we believe in. Yet, once we do so, we are banned. We are not free here.
My fellow members...remember:
There is nothing more blind than a person(s) who is not willing to see.
There is nothing more deaf than a person(s) who is not willing to hear.
God bless you all.
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who is Google[Bot] at the bottom viewing this forum only on certain times and only views certain topics...can someone answer this please
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no idea.. I have wondered that too
also... what is the "truth blog"?
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who is Google[Bot] at the bottom viewing this forum only on certain times and only views certain topics...can someone answer this please
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Googlebot)
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since my thread was deleted (for obvious reasons), ill just post it on here & "show my true colors"...
Bravo to you, q0txciityl0ve! I'm very proud of you for speaking up about what you know is right.
Also, thanks to everyone else who dared to speak up and agree with me. In case you don't know, I've been banned twice already, once after each comment I posted on this thread.
Fortunately, I don't need this forum for emotional support, but it's important that other members know what's going on here. Make of it what you will.
I'll be around commenting and reading until the owners figure out how to REALLY ban me permanently. I'm a tech-savvy gal, so it might take 'em awhile yet.
Cheers!
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since my thread was deleted (for obvious reasons), ill just post it on here & "show my true colors"...
Bravo to you, q0txciityl0ve! I'm very proud of you for speaking up about what you know is right.
Also, thanks to everyone else who dared to speak up and agree with me. In case you don't know, I've been banned twice already, once after each comment I posted on this thread.
Fortunately, I don't need this forum for emotional support, but it's important that other members know what's going on here. Make of it what you will.
I'll be around commenting and reading until the owners figure out how to REALLY ban me permanently. I'm a tech-savvy gal, so it might take 'em awhile yet.
Cheers!
same here! ;)
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since my thread was deleted (for obvious reasons), ill just post it on here & "show my true colors"...
To be honest with you all, I was 50/50 on this BOW user from the Italian forum.
However, I did very much appreciate the effort LiberianGirl went through just to post the translations for us.
Mo & Souza deleted the threads, as mentioned in their message (that was locked). Obviously, everyone is frustrated with their decision. This is THEIR home, we are the GUESTS.
Am I the only one disturbed by that comment?
I thought GUESTS were the unregistered users. WE have become MEMBERS on your so-called "home." WE decided to contribute to this forum, to display our thoughts, agree to agree or agree to disagree with fellow members. Now Mo & Souza deleted the thread, what does this mean? It means that THEY decide what WE believe in. Is that not weird? They post blogs about their theories and if anyone disagrees, they tell us to "do our homework" or simply disrespect us to make us feel inferior to them. How is this in any way professional of admins? Just because they are the admins, I guess we are less of people than them. THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. They both say real smart remarks in attempt to ridicule us. They both drill into us the whole TIAI concept, the whole Alter Egos of Michael (which I may say was a little...disturbing in how Michael apparently played the whole "female alter ego" when nourishing Blanket in the 'Living With Bashir' interviews; i thought that was just called parenting?) ...yet we cannot post about theories of this user named BOW. They both immediately labeled her as a troll (how mature?). Yes, her theories may not be true at all, just like Mo's & Souza's. What is the difference then? Just because Mo & Souza are lengthy in extreme, maybe too far-fetched, details in their theories? Why create a forum if they are not willing to listen to their members, who try hard to stay faithful to them? If they are not willing to listen, then just create a blog of your theories, with YOUR OWN INPUTS, eliminating the frustration of others if members' theories are opposed to or deleted.
I most likely will get banned, which i do not mind. Why? I found a home...michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net. I love it there. People are welcomed there, people are friendly there. The admins and moderators put so much effort to make us feel respected and be respected.
Here, why support a forum where we are restricted to what we contribute? Why support a forum where we are attacked by the admins if we disagree with them? Why support a forum where we have to be so meticulous in what we posts, afraid if we get banned, attacked, or humiliated?
I am so disgusted by what is occurring. No, members are not being childish with this occurrence. We simply are fighting for what we believe in. Yet, once we do so, we are banned. We are not free here.
My fellow members...remember:
There is nothing more blind than a person(s) who is not willing to see.
There is nothing more deaf than a person(s) who is not willing to hear.
God bless you all.
VERY WELL SAID GIRL! BRAVO!!! I must say that I don't trust this site no more too. God bless you too sweety. See you on the other forum ;) :)
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Same here, ha ha. ;) You can't get rid of me THAT easily by banning me. People...
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You guys, lets try to get back to reality for a while. I am upset as well that the thread about BOW was deleted, however, it is not lost, we can still go to that site and look at what she has said. I actually go on there to read the answers instead of reading it here. Because, I am interested in the answers to the questions, not all the, OMG's,WTF's and so on.
Like what other's have said. Please, don't lose hope, we are so close to finding the truth. I don't want to wake up one day to find that this site has been shut down. I enjoy coming on here and reading and sometime posting. This is the only place I can come to, to talk about my beliefs with MJ. No one around me believes he is alive and they just look at me like I am crazy. Maybe I am. But, I enjoy sharing the padded room with all of you-My friends and MJ family. If we never find the truth to what happened to Michael, it will still be great knowing that I can come here and talk to you all about it.
Keep the faith!!!! Remember it is all about L.O.V.E. Please spread the love around.
Sorry for the long post!!!
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"We stand today at a crossroads:
One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness.
The other leads to total extinction.
Let us hope we have the wisdom to make the right choice." (W.A.)
I'll be around commenting and reading until the owners figure out how to REALLY ban me permanently. I'm a tech-savvy gal, so it might take 'em awhile yet.
Best 2 lines i've read today :D
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VERY WELL SAID GIRL! BRAVO!!! I must say that I don't trust this site no more too. God bless you too sweety. See you on the other forum ;) :)[/quote]
:( :( :o :o :shock: :shock: :? :? :roll: :roll: :!: :!: :!: :geek:
i have no comment for this thread....................................
liberiangirl,can you tell me the other forum please,thank you..
:D :) ;) :( :o :shock: :? :x :cry: :oops: :roll: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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This is actually really sad, everyone is so upset. I just hope this site doesn't start acting up like MJHD. It's a shame what is happening here. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Wow!
I can't get on for 2 days and when I come back the whole place has gone to heck!! :lol:
All of this over the BOW threads being deleted?
I didn't believe in BOW really, but I guess other forums have been posted where you can discuss this.
Why leave or WANT to get banned?
That doesn't really make much sense?
None of us are married to each other(I think), so why get a dramatic divorce?
Just cheat. :lol:
It's ok to look at more than one forum at a time....
P.S. I was on the old forum before it went down the 1st time, so I know it's frustrating. But no need for everyone to attack each other. Just enjoy yourselves. :lol:
[youtube:3safl73t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8Gl4fOBw8[/youtube:3safl73t]
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Can't we all just get along??? haha
I can't believe that I stay off this website for two days and all this drama happens. It's like highschool! Gooooodness!
The sad thing is that I normally get onto the site so I can see the BOW pages, but uhm, I guess I can't do that here anymore. All I can say is that if you don't like where you are then make the change yourself and go elsewhere. I don't believe all the drama is necessary, but I can understand how a lot of people would get upset. I'm gonna stay, but I'd also like to know of another forum I could join. I feel like this one could explode at any moment and I'd like to get acquanted somewhere else before that happens (:
Whoa, another sad thing is we are all saying it's all about L.O.V.E. but it seems like a lot of hate is bein spread. :( Maybe once everyone relaxes and goes their separate ways everyone will get back to the real message... wherever we may be! I don't believe that all the people that are enraged by the deletion are any more wrong than Souza and Mo. I have no reason not to like them so i'm not gonna say a bunch of things about them that I don't know are true or not, and I think we are all in the wrong, to be honest. Everyone is havin' an off day I guess.
No one is perfect, so everyone should just remember to try and respect one another.
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uh oh when I hit new posts... only three topics show up..is this happening to anyone else???
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uh oh when I hit new posts... only three topics show up..is this happening to anyone else???
No, I got a ton of them.
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are you clicking new posts or active posts?
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are you clicking new posts or active posts?
New. I come up with 3 pages(71 matches).
edited to add - active posts I get 1 page or 18 matches.
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i didnt really read the whole thread and i have no idea what or who BOW is but...
what amazes me is that this topic got 5 pages very quick and other member have posted very valid information about the hoax or why there was a hoax in the first place and it barely gets to 2 pages :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
and as far are the hoax the only places, IMHO, that are giving clues are TMZ,TNZ,TIAO and the jacksons show...
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Dear fellow believers,
Do you guys know that there was a 7.0 Earthquake in Haiti with serious loss of life and great devastation and damage? There are way more important things to be worked up and upset about, people. How about we take that energy and apply it to something useful like donating for relief for our fellow brothers and sisters in Haiti. It doesn't matter where you are from, what religion you may be apart of, what ethnicity you are because we are all one really. Let's remember Michael's message. Haven't we learned anything from this?
Keep L.O.V.E. in your heart folks!
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I sure as heck hope Michael isn't reading these posts today!! What would he be thinking right about now??!! I have to say that I see both sides of the situation. There must be a good reason Mo and Souza deleted BOW's posts. Don't you think they would know that some members would be very upset by this? I read some of BOW, and at first I thought, whoa!, this could be it!! But, then others pointed out that much of what she/he wrote came from other sites and maybe she/he was a fake. So, not wanting to get my hopes up too high, I stopped hanging on every word that she/he wrote and stopped focusing on BOW's posts and continued looking more at other posts. But, they were intriguing to say the least.
I just think we have to stay focused on our investigation of the events surrounding the "death" of Michael Jackson and June 25. Maybe BOW was getting us off track and people were putting too much faith into his/her posts. I just think there must be a good reason for this or Mo and Souza wouldn't have done it, knowing the ridicule and heat that they are now taking. I don't want to spend my time investigating them. I want to find out da troot in what happened to Michael, if he is safe, will he come back to the world, will he lead his soldiers in his Army of L.O.V.E., and will I ever get a good night's sleep again! The rest...not so much.
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can someone please answer me this ?did this person post evidence of what they were saying? or were they just saying shit?
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are you clicking new posts or active posts?
New. I come up with 3 pages(71 matches).
edited to add - active posts I get 1 page or 18 matches.
thanks virgo.. it's working okay for me now .. not sure what was going on ..but thanks for your help
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can someone please answer me this ?did this person post evidence of what they were saying? or were they just saying shit?
From what I read, just saying ish.
However, some members believed in them because they said some things that did happen - like there wouldn't be any info in the FBI/CIA(?) files about the molestation charges or his "death." But others said that the exact same things were already posted on here before then so....
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can someone please answer me this ?did this person post evidence of what they were saying? or were they just saying shit?
From what I read, just saying ish.
However, some members believed in them because they said some things that did happen - like there wouldn't be any info in the FBI/CIA(?) files about the molestation charges or his "death." But others said that the exact same things were already posted on here before then so....
so everyone is up in arms about someone who posted something that they believed with no evidence :shock: but something like TIAI can have plenty of evidence and people dismiss it :lol:
so i can make a new user name and say some ish , with no evidence, get a following, get banned and then i can get a 5 page thread 2 :lol:
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It's all for the love L.O.V.E......not??!! What in the heck is going on here?
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^ agreed, LiberianGirl hee hee.
L.O.V.E. and truth is what I wanna look for and seek.
I don't wanna get in any arguments. I don't know how we can all compromise and resolve our issues.
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Some don't believe in TIAI and some don't believe in BOW, IMO I don't think that anyone has any room to say who is more valid than the other. I don't believe 100% in anyone...but i'm an open minded person. I think everyone should try and see all of what other people are trusting before they call it shit. How can you judge something without even reading all of what there was, or even knowing what it is? Give everyone a chance, and don't be so quick to turn certain things down. No one here knows the full truth.
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Would everybody just take a chill pill and calm down?!!!!
Gee whats going on here seriously! Mo and Souza did what they thought was right. I also read BOWs answers and yes I was disappointed its gone. But to be honest, I didn't believe her. If she was for real we will find out sooner or later. It is still not ok to bash over Mo and Souza. RESPECT people!
I also had technical problems with the site. When I saw the new start page I thought that it was worth those problems. Well done Mo and Souza!
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I'm not bashing the mods. I'm not bashing any of the registered users who post here. I believe in freedom of speech. I think we should be able to speak our minds of course in a logical sense.
If we really wanna get to the truth, we will have to research and look and search and seek it.
Like I say again and I'm using it as an example. There are still people who accuse Michael of pedophilia. but if they did a little research, they might think differently.
I don't have anything against anyone. I hope we can all as one resolve our issues without any anger and all become one again.
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can someone please answer me this ?did this person post evidence of what they were saying? or were they just saying shit?
I dont know, because I'm not an "Insiders" believer, so to me, BoW was false, but I do respet some members choice to be skeptical about it, if I'm not wrong they were trying to debunk her, and see if she "was saying sh*t", before this site gets broken.
Maybe members wanted to take the risk of being fooled again, I don't know, its up to themselves. As always, it was gonna hurt them bad for some days, and that's all... JMO though...
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I just had a thought
could it be possible that these screen names (MidnightMilk, etc.) are just trying to break us? Tryin to fool us into thinking theyre Michael or someone close to Michael just so they can drive us insane.
i don't know. I think we should be cautious and take care of our selves.
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wonder how many casualties there were
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Ditto Crescendo! Thank you for your post. If Michael was going to use an alias to disguise himself on sites, I really doubt very strongly that he would use anything doing with "milk".
And quite frankly, I doubt he is spending time posting stuff. He is busy setting a stage and what a stage it will be (hopefully). He may be the person behind the leak of unpublished songs, "real" and amended CD's, but, even with those, he has someone else taking care of all that. In the meantime, Michael is getting some well deserved rest, putting a plan in place like the likes the world has never seen and wondering what he is going to wear. :lol:
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i don't know. I think we should be cautious and take care of our selves.
this is my honest opinion about the hoax..i think that there were sites and/or people placed to give out clues, to help us along and then there were people purposly placed to throw people off
and then there are just people who think this is funny and are poking fun at us hoaxers just saying anything
i could watch all the forums, join and say that on 1/18/10 mike is gong to show up in culver city at 4:30pm and do a speech, people could believe me because i took 2 clues that were given and combined them to make a "new" clue that sounds logical
see how easy that was :lol: , i could have people camping out infront of there computers all day :lol: and not know any more than the next person and just start some hype for no reason
so with that said if BOW was a a person who had real knowledge, 2 things would have happened: she would have gotten the message across already and now she is gone, her job is done OR the real people behind the hoax KNOW that she is not part of the plan and she had to go, she was not part of the plan, remember this is a hoax, a very detailed hoax, and remember what TS said about timing...the hoax maybe really winding down this time and only the strong will survive!
p.s. im not saying mo and souza are apart of the hoax but im sure people who are are watching and could have gave someone a heads up if she was fake
so what im saying is that everything happens for a reason so everyone just needs to be cool , the truth will prevail :lol:
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Thank you Liberian Girl hee hee.
I just can't help but think if their screen name is disrespectful it more than likely a loser trying to mess with Mj fans because everyone knows Michael has some very loyal fans.
Kinda like the one user on youtube called joy4fools. I havent seen one his videos in a long time. But I can't seem to give him the time of day because of his silly screen name. If someone has something to say and they want to be heard and believed I dont think they would take on such a disrespectful and silly screen name as Midnight milk or joy4fools.
Misha you'd made me think of something. I think we also have to be careful not to be too distracted by this thread and these users (who we question whether there Michael or not.) I feel like I'm in a war zone and that we need to be aware of everything and not pay way too much attention to just one side but we must look to our left, right, above us and behind us. So i don't know if we should get distracted because maybe these screen name (like midnightmilk etc) are trying to distract or mess with us.
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Misha you'd made me think of something. I think we also have to be careful not to be too distracted by this thread and these users (who we question whether there Michael or not.) I feel like I'm in a war zone and that we need to be aware of everything and not pay way too much attention to just one side but we must look to our left, right, above us and behind us. So i don't know if we should get distracted because maybe these screen name (like midnightmilk etc) are trying to distract or mess with us.
you are correct, but then again they may be real and the name is there to throw you off, its a messed up game but you just have to take things with a grain of salt and not stress so much off of the "clues" and when people come and go
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True misha.
I just think that if Michael was using the internet as a way to talk to the public or actually his fans, he would use something for example, "Imalivenhere4ever". that type of screen name I would actually think about and consider it to be real but if it is a name like Michaelisick then I would def look the other way.
Y'know? Although even fakers would use such names as "Imalive" and try to pass off as MJ.
Just can't tell anynmore. :? We just gotta all be careful.
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yes I read an update on BOW this morning and as I was looking for it a couple of min ago I could'nt find it
!!! then I found a thread saying why wasit deleted when I wanted to open it it shut down :shock:
why are they doing this ?? whats wrong with her posts??
Whats wrong with her posts?? Hmmm, I would have to say could it be because she's not into the whole mind controlling, brainwashing, illuminati, end of the world, NWO thing???
Personally, i've read peoples post's on this forum regarding those issues,and they were pretty upset and freaked out by all that stuff,even having nightmares. And then others tell them "then don't read those post's" If anything we too should be able to decide what we wan't to read or not. I did 'nt get nightmares from reading BOW's posts, any of you???
Was she using foul language??Was she/he contacting anyone here ,trying to lure them to
dark forests and such?? If so , speak up!
It all comes down to a little explanation on why she was considered a troll IMO
No nightmares, but I got annoyed from reading them. People claim things all the time. And I'm at the point where I don't believe any of them. There is a difference between being open minded, and being gullible.
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can someone please answer me this ?did this person post evidence of what they were saying? or were they just saying shit?
From what I read, just saying ish.
However, some members believed in them because they said some things that did happen - like there wouldn't be any info in the FBI/CIA(?) files about the molestation charges or his "death." But others said that the exact same things were already posted on here before then so....
so everyone is up in arms about someone who posted something that they believed with no evidence :shock: but something like TIAI can have plenty of evidence and people dismiss it :lol:
so i can make a new user name and say some ish , with no evidence, get a following, get banned and then i can get a 5 page thread 2 :lol:
:lol: I sooo agree! It's best to have the mindset that a person like this is fake. Because if he is a fake, that means you never got your hopes up. If he is in fact real, that's when you can be happy that you were wrong.
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Just can't tell anynmore. :? We just gotta all be careful.
i think thats the point :lol: and thats why im saying for everyone to calm down, this is all a game, a game to enlighten us, but a game none the less...
the same thing goes on everyday, you want to believe something because it sounds reliable and you shouldnt, then you dismiss something because you think its unrealiable. when its purposely done that way to sway you. then you have, distraction like this ,to keep you away from the real things that need to be focused on
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who is Google[Bot] at the bottom viewing this forum only on certain times and only views certain topics...can someone answer this please
:lol: :lol: :lol: .... thank you for asking! I always thought google.bot was a mod on the other forum and was trying for half an hour once to email them because of spam. I hope you know what it is now :lol: :lol: :lol:
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who is Google[Bot] at the bottom viewing this forum only on certain times and only views certain topics...can someone answer this please
:lol: :lol: :lol: .... thank you for asking! I always thought google.bot was a mod on the other forum and was trying for half an hour once to email them because of spam. I hope you know what it is now :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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i know what it is now hee hee :lol: :lol:
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Just can't read ALL the posts.......so sorry.
Michael will be back.....with or without fighting. I respect the mods, it is after all their forum.
Michael WILL be back..keep the faith. Michael always taught LOVE yet everyone STILL fights.....Please stop and listen.
I think the truth is right in front of us if we choose to "listen". I embrace that we all are different but perhaps we can come together as one.
In Remembrance! Never lose hope! Just beLIEve
Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out, and the flowers are all in bloom...
Captain Hook: He's back.
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I just had a thought
could it be possible that these screen names (MidnightMilk, etc.) are just trying to break us? Tryin to fool us into thinking theyre Michael or someone close to Michael just so they can drive us insane.
i don't know. I think we should be cautious and take care of our selves.
I agree with you on that one...After reading all of the comments on this subject it makes me feel like someone somewhere seems to enjoy playing with all of our heads...As long as we stay on track,look at the facts(and not people who forsee the future),continue to research on the facts,this will all eventually end...I understand everyone and their personal beliefs,but with as many members that are in this forum and non members we should all try and remain the adults that we are without all of the name calling and bashing each other,The admin. have their reasons and in the end they are the ones responsible for this site,not us...After 6 1/2 months all of our emotions have become strained and with some at the breaking point which isn't a good thing.If it reaches that point for anyone then IMO they should take a break before they break emotionally.I don't mean any disrespect to any of the members OR the admin,I just don't see why we can't all get along to do the one thing we all have agreed on from the beginning and that is focusing on not only proving Michael Jackson is alive but also if/when he will return....
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MJHunny, excellent post. :lol: :D
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the explanation was only this" we believe BOW to be a troll, telling lies and feel we need to protect our members from things like this"
Why is that BOW a certified troll?? Evidence would be nice...
If there is NO proof BOW is a troll then all the other topics should have been deleted too.. There are soo many trolls regarding MJ and the Hoax anyway..Not really fair to delete just BOW i remember a time when **MJ on LKL blog was causing quite a stir too and then that youtube person....and cassandra gretchen sims WE make up our own minds thats why we came here because WE decided that MJ was alive WE did not listen to the media...
Couldn't agree more! :) I really don't understand what happened around here... I understand that there are some rules, otherwise it would be a terrible mess,but is there a rule saying that topics about "insider infos" are not accepted here?? Didn't see that.And apparently the other topics about other "trolls"(or not) are still running.What's the problem?
I also understand that they created this forum, but we are members too and have the right to voice our opinion as long as it's done respectfully.What would be the point if everybody agreed? Correct me if I'm wrong, maybe the rules have changed and I didn't know that.
That will be my last post here. Take care everybody.
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Everyone , what's happening ? I couldn't connect yesterday and today when I connect I see this topic ?
What does that mean ? Liberian Girl's thread about BOW findings got deleted ?
I tought it was a nice thread tough...
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There's an awful lot of arrogance and self-importance blown out of proportion around here, I'm talking to you guys Mo and Souza. This is a CONSPIRACY and HOAX site, we're not exactly discussing physics here.
Who's to say who's full of it and who isn't? If BOW is wasting people's time and is a troll, the same could be said for any source on here, unless you guys know something we don't. I'm sure time will reveal who's right and who's wrong, but until then we have a right to look at whatever we can and make some sense of it. If people are getting out of hand by being making threats, being verbally abusive, bullies etc, that's a different issue.
There's so much drama and unneccesary pettiness around here, I'm glad this isn't the only site I frequent.
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Grenat I pm'd you :)
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BOW said a lot of BS about Mo and Souza also... She said Tiai bring us in a wrong way.. Mo and Souza bring us in a wrong way.. well... there a lot of BS in BOW threads...
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I have to say I never expected this kind of reaction from the Admins.
Ok, you're in charge and do all the hard work but have some respect. Members like Liberian Girl put probably as much work into her BOW posts as Mo and Souza put in their illuminati-mind control research.
And I really felt hurt by Admin's comment, that we are only guests in their home... I didn't feel like a guest, but like a member. I know I haven't really contributed much, never made any groundbreaking discovery in the hoax and never posted anything too intriguing, but even so, I really felt I was a member. I guess it was just all in my head.
If I knew that I was "just a guest" all along, maybe I would have just went to bed instead of having sleepovers here on the forum.
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Not locked still here! :roll:
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Michael is love....remember, it is all for L.O.V.E. ;)
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could someone please PM me?
I couldn't login for a long time!
I would really appreciate it!
xx
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I have to say I never expected this kind of reaction from the Admins.
Ok, you're in charge and do all the hard work but have some respect. Members like Liberian Girl put probably as much work into her BOW posts as Mo and Souza put in their illuminati-mind control research.
And I really felt hurt by Admin's comment, that we are only guests in their home... I didn't feel like a guest, but like a member. I know I haven't really contributed much, never made any groundbreaking discovery in the hoax and never posted anything too intriguing, but even so, I really felt I was a member. I guess it was just all in my head.
If I knew that I was "just a guest" all along, maybe I would have just went to bed instead of having sleepovers here on the forum.
Members or not, you are still a guest here. Like you all want our respect, we'd like to get it back in return for the work we put into the forum so you have a platform to discuss this hoax.
Look at the new post on the index page of this website. These are just a few of the threats and hate mails we receive daily, we decided to post them and make them public now, since we are sick and tired of people attacking us PERSONALLY.
I am not talking about all members here, of course not and those who are keeping it nice and clean here know that and don't feel addressed at all.
We have been bashed for 5 months now and we have been way to tolerant. Those who can't behave here, need to leave. I want the old MJKIT atmosphere back here and if people think I'm a bitch for deleting a troll-thread, so be it. We had our reasons for deleting the thread and I don't really feel like explaining anymore. I did that too many times and I am done with it.
And yes, it's just a few bashers here, most people are still very welcome here. If you are still on the board, you don't have to feel addressed at all.
I hope people will understand our actions, if not....well, what more can I say?
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could someone please PM me?
I couldn't login for a long time!
I would really appreciate it!
xx
We had server problems and we moved the server to another host. Nothing to worry about.
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You know I have to agree with many.
For one, I am not going to go. I am going to see what happened.
I understand the frustration for many of us. To be REAL!! It's dead wrong for people to play with people minds and it's alot of energy being wasted on both ends.
However, it doesn't stop people from reading it. People are going to read it regardless.
However, at the same time we should be able to post as long as noone is being endangered or threatened. I mean many of us have posted things that we agree or disagree with.
IDK, let's not give up. I really enjoy this post but I feel we should be able to share things whether we agree or not.
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[honestly, lets just trust Mo and Souza, and if you want to check BOW updates, go for it :
http://michaeljacksongold.forumfree.it/ (http://michaeljacksongold.forumfree.it/)
Why would Mo and Souza lie about BOW? they are probably right by billy06
Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:21 pm
Forum: All odd things
Topic: WHY ARE YOU DECIDING FOR US???
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Okay!! Now I know people can gon there to take a look, but the whole forum is in Italian. There's nothing there to read it in English.
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i believe that some members were banned without ever bashing admin, but simply for disagreeing.
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i believe that some members were banned without ever bashing admin, but simply for disagreeing.
I believe some members here are only signing up to say stuff like that. Sorry, but that's not what this board is for.
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i believe that some members were banned without ever bashing admin, but simply for disagreeing.
I agree... Sometimes it is good to have a critical view on something! There are people that doe not believe that can help us see the other side of the story. The truth is what we are looking for, the truth is objective, it is a fact!!! We can not simple accept a truth that we like!
But I donno about members being banned, are you one of them??? Cuz you don't seem like a stranger to the site!
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I really can't believe that this site has resulted in a he said she said, and why this and not that. I think many are losing focus on why we are all here. Keep in mind the moderators do what they think is best for the site and the members and, IMO, do their best to keep it all in perspective. If they feel a thread is not warranted they have every right to delete it or dead an account, etc. It's really as simple as that.
Maybe all this ruckus is due to the lull in MJJ activity right now. Maybe people are frustrated because the clues are not as blatant as they were in the beginning. I can only speculate. If it's too much, take a break. If you don't care for what's happening on this site, there are others out there. It's your choice really.
There are many here that have great insight on the hoax. I think it's safe to say due to our knowledge of the hoax we can easily wade through the threads of those here who want to find the truth and those that are here only to create havoc.
Let the mods do their job.
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i believe that some members were banned without ever bashing admin, but simply for disagreeing.
Just take a look at the index: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php) to read the threats we received. Below the threats you will find a link to a small selection of the hate posts some of the MJDHI members who are banned now left on other websites. We didn't even publish the worst ones, so go figure.
After reading all that, please come back and tell me if these members were banned without bashing the admins. We do visit other websites also ya know...
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I really can't believe that this site has resulted in a he said she said, and why this and not that. I think many are losing focus on why we are all here. Keep in mind the moderators do what they think is best for the site and the members and, IMO, do their best to keep it all in perspective. If they feel a thread is not warranted they have every right to delete it or dead an account, etc. It's really as simple as that
I agree with that,I've read the "bashing" post they've made on their website and the remarks people have put here against them are really cruel and really uncalled for.
I'm upset that many of the people I was getting along got banned but nonetheless
we should stay focused ! What are you going to do if BOW is really fake now ?
It mean that we argued and some got banned for absolutely nothing !
We are here for something : to know the truth about Michael
Please let's not argue about something that isn't even valuable
BOW is very little part of the hoax even if she is real
She doesn't deserve so much attention that some of our comrades get banned
So please calm down and let's move on now.
The others members that got banned,I'm not sure they really deserved it ,but
That's Mo and Souza's forum , they are in charge here.
The others members,It's sad they aren't here anymore but they are still part of the hoax so they're still our comrades , that's what important I think.
Let's not quarel anymore,it's no use.
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I read the bashing link.
Yeah it shouldn't have went there like that. I believe we should be able to share things as I said regardless of whether we agree or not but what I read really wasn't right. Very disheartening. :(
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Could this have been done to raise BOW's credibility?
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For some reason I kind of... miss BoW's posts :shock:
At the end of the day though, no one should be arguing about this, I don't think MJ would want his fans quarreling over some 'insider'.
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Whoa. I just read all of those hate messages and I can't believe it. What in the world is going on here? Why are people acting so crazy and angry? Whatever happened to uuuuummmm... RESPECT?!?! If you disagree with someone's opinion or theory, why not just ignore it and move on? Or perhaps if we must respond, let it be in a civilized and intelligent manner. I guess the whole message of love has been lost on all of the hostile hot-heads who don't know how to act! Just because we seem to be hidden behind our computers doesn't mean we can't be found out!!! You can go to jail for making threats even over the net, how dumb can someone be? There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever to threaten someone over being banned, having a silly post removed or disagreeing with a theory LOL :lol: No wonder Michael disappeared!!!!! People claim to love him so much, blah blah blah... but will cut a sister/ brother over a forum thread?!?!? Now this is beyond ridiculous :roll:
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I read the hate posts, and I really think that some people need a good shrink.
If you don't like it here, then just leave. It was a nice and friendly place (mjkit, and this site before the 'death' of MJHD) and I want that nice place back!
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Can we please stop fighting and remember why we are here and that is because of Michael, that is why we are here!
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Why has this site turned into MJHD, I thought we were here to figure out what happened to MJ not what the Admin get up to. Alot of us here are original MJHD members and I left MJHD for this reason as did alot of members, we came to MJkit because it was friendly and troll free, don't ruin a good thing.
Anyway, moving onto the next post about MJ!
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I cant believe this thread has gone on for so long.
Anyway... WHERE IS MICHAEL?? :D
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I cant believe this thread has gone on for so long.
Anyway... WHERE IS MICHAEL?? :D
He's hiding in my closet ;)
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I really can't believe that this site has resulted in a he said she said, and why this and not that. I think many are losing focus on why we are all here. Keep in mind the moderators do what they think is best for the site and the members and, IMO, do their best to keep it all in perspective. If they feel a thread is not warranted they have every right to delete it or dead an account, etc. It's really as simple as that.
Maybe all this ruckus is due to the lull in MJJ activity right now. Maybe people are frustrated because the clues are not as blatant as they were in the beginning. I can only speculate. If it's too much, take a break. If you don't care for what's happening on this site, there are others out there. It's your choice really.
There are many here that have great insight on the hoax. I think it's safe to say due to our knowledge of the hoax we can easily wade through the threads of those here who want to find the truth and those that are here only to create havoc.
Let the mods do their job.[/quote
Agreed.
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i just can't see how the BOW comments/posts are any less believable than all the stuff about mind control, illuminati and fluoride posioning theories that have been bandied around on here.....i mean please...... :o
i'm trying to keep an open mind and will wait and see if anything happens this month BEFORE i pass judgement. Novel idea? :mrgreen:
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i just can't see how the BOW comments/posts are any less believable than all the stuff about mind control, illuminati and fluoride posioning theories that have been bandied around on here.....i mean please...... :o
i'm trying to keep an open mind and will wait and see if anything happens this month BEFORE i pass judgement. Novel idea? :mrgreen:
The Illuminati and mind control are theories. BOW was stating these things as absolute FACT.
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Whoa. I just read all of those hate messages and I can't believe it. What in the world is going on here? Why are people acting so crazy and angry? Whatever happened to uuuuummmm... RESPECT?!?! If you disagree with someone's opinion or theory, why not just ignore it and move on? Or perhaps if we must respond, let it be in a civilized and intelligent manner. I guess the whole message of love has been lost on all of the hostile hot-heads who don't know how to act! Just because we seem to be hidden behind our computers doesn't mean we can't be found out!!! You can go to jail for making threats even over the net, how dumb can someone be? There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever to threaten someone over being banned, having a silly post removed or disagreeing with a theory LOL :lol: No wonder Michael disappeared!!!!! People claim to love him so much, blah blah blah... but will cut a sister/ brother over a forum thread?!?!? Now this is beyond ridiculous :roll:
Thank You!! Yes, people need to have L.O.V.E, (which obviously, a lot of the messages don't contain :roll: ) but they also need to remember R.E.S.P.E.C.T http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XAI-PF ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0XAI-PFQcA&feature=related)
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I read the hate mail...must say :oops: :oops: Something just isn't right? Are we meant to find out the truth??? Just like some people said before, oh they were getting to close to the truth :?: Isn't that why we are here? I find it all getting ridiculous, and seems like this is all a waste of time. As for the people who left those hate post !! SHAME ON YOU. No one should be talked to like that.
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hmm, are we in the middle of a "distraction" :?: :?: :lol:
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Hey, I just talked to Michael and he told me where he is....but I can't remember now, so check back tomorrow and I might remember by then. :shock: :shock: :o :o :lol: :lol:
Hee Hee Hee! I just wanted to get us refocused back on the reason we are here.
Please remember....It Is All For The Love.....L.O.V.E.
We need to stay together and love each other, not bash and trash. The only ones who win that way are the haters and the non-believers. IMHO.
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I cant believe this thread has gone on for so long.
Anyway... WHERE IS MICHAEL?? :D
He's hiding in my closet ;)
Well what we would like to know is where is your closet now 8-)
But seriously.Let's stop this already.We lost friends already,even tough we all have the same goal(we do have right)finding the truth about Michael we get distracted by some stupid argument about an insider's authencity.
Let's stop this already,ok ?
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Wilds Quote:
Whoa. I just read all of those hate messages and I can't believe it. What in the world is going on here? Why are people acting so crazy and angry? Whatever happened to uuuuummmm... RESPECT?!?! If you disagree with someone's opinion or theory, why not just ignore it and move on? Or perhaps if we must respond, let it be in a civilized and intelligent manner.
Wilds you are right. :)