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Title: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Lilin1989 on January 10, 2010, 08:06:35 PM
he nose look like it caved in

(http://static.manolith.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson1.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: mirandacnc on January 10, 2010, 08:16:12 PM
yeah it does...i dont know what to think :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Mariso83 on January 10, 2010, 08:21:54 PM
I see nothing with his nose on this pic. His nose just looks normal.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: mirandacnc on January 10, 2010, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
I see nothing with his nose on this pic. His nose just looks normal.


look at the tip..its missing usually its pointy
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: the_lost_child on January 10, 2010, 08:25:47 PM
Quote from: "mirandacnc"
look at the tip..its missing usually its pointy
It could seem so because of the light. I don't know. I was looking at this pic so many times, I'm just not able to find anything more on it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Mariso83 on January 10, 2010, 08:26:06 PM
yes it's a little bit less pointy than usually but to me it just looks like a normal nose. J. Randy Taborelli already said that without it's not that bad.
Title: I know why michael nose look caved in
Post by: Lilin1989 on January 10, 2010, 08:38:10 PM
look at the man with the glove his hands is pushing it in
(http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/475/16/400_mjackson_ambulance_090625_newgraphic.0.0.0x0.400x400.jpeg)
Title: Re: I know why michael nose look caved in
Post by: MjjGirlSteph on January 10, 2010, 08:59:26 PM
yes his hand is in the way , that is probably why it is not pointy, i highly doubt it was the case, i don;t believe that rumor that he had so many surgeries that he no longer had a nose , thats just stupid, he had a couple but i don;t think its was as bad or as extent as the media made it seem, im sure its still michael's real nose LOL
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: mirandacnc on January 10, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
i dont think it looks bad just diff than normal
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Chance on January 10, 2010, 09:55:16 PM
that's what has always convinced me that it's an old old photo of Michael
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: mykidsmum on January 10, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
J. Randi Taborelli is a nit wit.  MJ's Dr. said himself he didn't wear a prosthetic nose.  Anyone who believes that has been hearing the lie long enough...Just a bunch of crap to soil and embarrass MJ.  Even his German surgeon even said it's real and he took a slice of MJ's ear cartilage to strengthen the bridge.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Lorrie on January 10, 2010, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
J. Randi Taborelli is a nit wit.
Indeed he is. Like Karen Faye, Taraborrelli believes -- and desperately wants others to believe -- that he was closer to Michael than he actually is. He knows no more about Michael's personal business than Michael allowed him to know.

Michael didn't wear a prosthetic nose or nose tip. However, he did wear special tape on his nose from time to time, which is standard practice for people who've had cosmetic surgery on their nose. The tape helps keep the cartilage and bone properly aligned and the nose's structural appearance as desired.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: darkchild on January 10, 2010, 11:54:08 PM
I do not believe that MJ has a prosthetic nose.  MJ, I love your nose.  It is just perfect to me.  Great information on this post.  Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: I know why michael nose look caved in
Post by: Dancing_Machine on January 11, 2010, 04:17:01 AM
It's just the shadow of the guy's hand.

And ofcourse Michael still has his own nose, he's a humanbeing right so he has his own nose like everyone else  :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: See on January 11, 2010, 04:18:34 AM
(http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/press/033.jpg)

Am I the only one that sees the discoleration here... Look closely the nose is different!
Title: Re: I know why michael nose look caved in
Post by: the_lost_child on January 11, 2010, 04:28:37 AM
is this at any point relevant to us? Guys,  so many things happen, we've got DCs, we've got Jermaine twitting about his "beloved brother, who passed away". We've seen this photo so many times - many of us believe it's fake/photoshoped, for me it doesn't matter how his nose looked like or if he was wearing  a prosthetic nose.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: the_lost_child on January 11, 2010, 04:33:14 AM
Quote from: "darkchild"
I do not believe that MJ has a prosthetic nose.  MJ, I love your nose.  It is just perfect to me.  Great information on this post.  Thanks!  :)
Even if he'd wearing it - so what? I don't get it, why do we have so many treats here about this one photo/caved/prosthetic nose... :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 11, 2010, 05:13:38 AM
I always thought his nose looked different in the ambulance pic, but thought it was just the angle or something.  I never believed the rumours about him wearing a prosthetic tip, but I guess anything is possible when you've had a lot of surgeries.  If he did wear one then it's doubtful it would have stayed on during CPR, so maybe this does merit some looking into.  :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: KingMJ on January 11, 2010, 05:43:02 AM
Quote from: "See"
Am I the only one that sees the discoleration here... Look closely the nose is different!
Has that pic u posted been altered in any way? Because I looked closely and there is definitely an outline which goes all around tip of the nose, a little way up the bridge... certainly looks like a prosphetic tip :(  :?:  As someone else said, it doesn't matter if he did wear one or not, the only way it's worth investigating, is it will help clear up some of the issues with the ambulance photo. ie. the strange nose shape.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 11, 2010, 06:04:07 AM
I think this could be true, but it doesn't matter to me. I love his nose, real or not.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: SEHF on January 11, 2010, 06:08:23 AM
doing my part
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: the_lost_child on January 11, 2010, 06:16:43 AM
Quote from: "SEHF"
It is very bothersome that the ambulance picture shows it missing. It gives credence to the many reports that he died with part of his nose missing.
If he died...  :evil:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: SEHF on January 11, 2010, 06:19:56 AM
rofl
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: KingMJ on January 11, 2010, 06:21:12 AM
I hate this picture, so apologies for posting it... but just wanted to ask whilst we're on the topic & u guys seem to know the answers to most things... was this picture photoshopped or is the nose area real?  As it has always saddened me.

(http://mikehenneke.mvourtown.com/files/2009/06/michael_jackson.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Bellexx on January 11, 2010, 06:24:59 AM
Quote from: "KingMJ"
I hate this picture, so apologies for posting it... but just wanted to ask whilst we're on the topic & u guys seem to know the answers to most things... was this picture photoshopped or is the nose area real?  As it has always saddened me.

(http://mikehenneke.mvourtown.com/files/2009/06/michael_jackson.jpg)

I always thought it was a patch/bandage (hope this is the right word) on his nose covered with some make-up... So I am not sure, but I could be. In my opinion...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Wildy on January 11, 2010, 06:30:16 AM
Quote from: "KingMJ"
I hate this picture, so apologies for posting it... but just wanted to ask whilst we're on the topic & u guys seem to know the answers to most things... was this picture photoshopped or is the nose area real?  As it has always saddened me.

good question, i wanna know if it's photoshopped too. I hate this pic too  :|
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 11, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
I don't think it's photoshopped...his nose is covered with a plaster or bandage.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Wildy on January 11, 2010, 06:42:23 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I don't think it's photoshopped...his nose is covered with a plaster or bandage.

maybe it's a sunburn? nose is a fragile area, maybe he's peeling, what do you think?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: the_lost_child on January 11, 2010, 06:45:01 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I don't think it's photoshopped...his nose is covered with a plaster or bandage.
This one you posted is bit rougher (blur or sth) But I've read somewhere, quite time ago, it wasn't photoshoped, It was taken at court and Michael was pis**ed of it was made public.
I must say it and I'm almost sure, most of you feel the same - it doesn't matter how does he look like, he's just Michael Jackson - the Man with warmly heart, who I love.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Wildy on January 11, 2010, 06:51:49 AM
Quote from: "the_lost_child"
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I don't think it's photoshopped...his nose is covered with a plaster or bandage.
This one you posted is bit rougher (blur or sth) But I've read somewhere, quite time ago, it wasn't photoshoped, It was taken at court and Michael was pis**ed of it was made public.
I must say it and I'm almost sure, most of you feel the same - it doesn't matter how does he look like, he's just Michael Jackson - the Man with warmly heart, who I love.

I totally agree with you.It doesn't matter how he looks like  :mrgreen: We're just trying to solve this mystery "nose" from the ambulance.

I worked the contrast and lights of this picture, what do you think?

(http://img1.imagilive.com/0110/IMG523455.png)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: jm1lvmj on January 11, 2010, 07:33:16 AM
Wow!  Imagine if this were you, and you gave your all to your fans, but all they can do is pick you apart just like the tabloids and media.  My, my, wouldn't I feel just great.  I saw this thread last night and  noting the topic, decided to skip it.  But, as I passed by this morning, I saw there were two pages of comments and thought surely there would be some rational thoughts on here and to my relief, there was.  Kudos to those that know garbage when they see it. One Love.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: reading_on on January 11, 2010, 07:34:31 AM
My thoughts are it is quite possible he had the tip, but it is not worth discussing further because if you had someone faking you then you would make sure that they looked like you to the people who knew you best. That might not be his fans.

Could Michael be in the ambulance and be dead now? I think yes that is possible. Does knowing he had a prosthetic help you determine he is dead? No. So moot point, just might be sad to see him in the ambulance that way.

By the way, I don't know how people can ignore the fact that he wanted his nose really pointy (kinda like that character he liked so much Peter Pan) so it may have taken a prosthetic. Either way, he was cute..lol.  I never bought in to why people were so darned concerned about Michael did with his face. If he liked it (and we liked looking at him too) let him do what he wants.

I also think if the court photo is real, that it looks like tape to me.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 11, 2010, 08:09:53 AM
I could care less what he did to his face, it was his, and he had every right to change it.  I think he's handsome no matter what.  The reason I think the photo is important is because if his nose isn't shadowed, altered by PS, or pushed down or covered by a hand, then it could be him in the ambulance if he had a prosthetic...because I would assume he either wouldn't sleep with it on, or it would have come off when they were doing CPR.  :(  And if it were a hoax he wouldn't be seen without his nose tip.  I would never dissect his features if it weren't important to the hoax.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 11, 2010, 08:15:55 AM
I know we all have different opinions and all but I think we really should stop looking and his physical features what difference does it make if he did have or did not have a prosthetic tip he's still the same person and I love him for who he is and whatever he looks like is gorgeous to me. I don't see what this has to do with the hoax...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: reading_on on January 11, 2010, 09:21:19 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I could care less what he did to his face, it was his, and he had every right to change it.  I think he's handsome no matter what.  The reason I think the photo is important is because if his nose isn't shadowed, altered by PS, or pushed down or covered by a hand, then it could be him in the ambulance if he had a prosthetic...because I would assume he either wouldn't sleep with it on, or it would have come off when they were doing CPR.  :(  And if it were a hoax he wouldn't be seen without his nose tip.  I would never dissect his features if it weren't important to the hoax.

I can definitely see what you are saying about that and respect that it is a reason to investigate it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 11, 2010, 09:24:03 AM
Thanks, I'm glad you understand.  I just hope it isn't the case!  :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Natusik72 on January 11, 2010, 02:00:18 PM
The usual picture, after plastic apperatsii usually some time are plasters or bandages to support the shape of the nose ...is quite natural ...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Zen on January 13, 2010, 08:48:33 PM
In the ambulance picture, the reason it is important, is because if this shows
either the nose tip removed due to trauma by cpr or collasped...it would be the REAL thing.
It's hard to tell, as if it IS the real thing, I DO believe the photographers blurred it
some out of respect to Michael before the publishing.

This is not about denial, Michael did have a prosthetic tip when the tissue at the
tip of his nose died.  Talking about it in regards to a HOAX or not, is not to disrespect
Michael but if we are looking for the truth...well, all aspects have to be looked at.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on January 13, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
The ambulance photo is almost certainly fake.. Check this link to a photo i have put on another thread, It is Amazing!!
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2866 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2866)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: reading_on on January 13, 2010, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
The ambulance photo is almost certainly fake.. Check this link to a photo i have put on another thread, It is Amazing!!
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2866 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2866)

I wasn't too impressed with it. In both instances of the pointy ears there was something pulling down on the ear (face mask in one and the other thing in the ambulance), so it wasn't convincing.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: je on January 14, 2010, 02:01:40 PM
this is an interview with Dr. Klein abnout Michael nose

http://www.celebitchy.com/.../dr_klein_ ... e_fillers/ (http://www.celebitchy.com/.../dr_klein_admits_he_rebuilt_michael_jacksons_nose_with_injectable_fillers/)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 14, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
It does look to me as if the tip is missing.. and this thread isnt about bashing MJ or his looks, or his decisions..  its about the hoax.  And its an important bit of the hoax as if its a real photo then it gives credence to the reports that he had his nose tip missing at the hospital/morgue.  Unfortunately we cannot get to the truth without investigating these issues.

If its turns out to be true MJ had a prosthetic tip then it isnt MJ who should be critisised, so much as the scum bag surgeons who kept operating and operating.. who took the money and ran and didnt care about the damage.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 14, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
These pictures were previously posted in another thread. Credit belongs to someone else but I am unable to locate the thread they were in. The original OP used photoshop to remove the dust from the picture and then put a nightshade filter on it in the last one. I rotated them and sharpened them as they seemed a bit blurry.

Michael's nose does not look normal at all. It does not look like the tip is missing nor does it look caved in or broken.
It does look like something has been added to the photograph. I think this may have been done to give the appearance that his nose had been broken or missing the tip etc to coincide with the false reports in the media about this. It could also have been done on purpose to show that the photograph was a fake. I noticed that something was wrong with his nose the moment I saw this picture on ET.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/dust_reduction22.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/dust_reduction221.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/night_effect_nose22.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Tay3 on January 14, 2010, 03:15:33 PM
To me it looks like his nose is flattened out a little in the ambulance pic, because they have his mouth wide open. In other pictures where the skin on his nose looks to be different shades of skin color... that could be from scar tissue from his surgeries, IMO. Isn't it interesting that all these pictures of MJ in the weeks before June 25th and also the ones that have surfaced after that date are so mysterious? He always has his hair in his face or sunglasses or both. Now this ambulance pic taken at odd angles, through tinted windows. We can never just look at a picture and say for sure what is is. Even more mysterious than MJ usually was/is. ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 14, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: "Zen"
In the ambulance picture, the reason it is important, is because if this shows
either the nose tip removed due to trauma by cpr or collasped...it would be the REAL thing.
It's hard to tell, as if it IS the real thing, I DO believe the photographers blurred it
some out of respect to Michael before the publishing.

This is not about denial, Michael did have a prosthetic tip when the tissue at the
tip of his nose died.  Talking about it in regards to a HOAX or not, is not to disrespect
Michael but if we are looking for the truth...well, all aspects have to be looked at.

Okkaaayyy.. Look at what we're examining here, folks.. feels ridiculous, IMO. And Zen, I'd like to know exactly where you got that information, please. What source exactly? I think that all of that nose stuff is just ridiculous.. There is no way it's fake, come on...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Grenat on January 14, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
Even if he wear a prostetic nose usually he isn't missing it here, come on people , does it really look like to you that he is missing something ?
It doesn't to me tough !If you look well there aren't any "hole" kind of thing.
It not look cut either.It just look a little flat but well.
I really don't think that his nose itself is strange.The whole picture is strange
The fact that it look like his nose is missing something must be because it's photoshopped so of course it doesn't look normal
We have a "puzzle" type of face here I think.His face here is composed from differents elements/pictures mixed and blended in.
Just my theory tough
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Zen on January 15, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
by PinkTopaz » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:36 am

    Zen wrote:In the ambulance picture, the reason it is important, is because if this shows
    either the nose tip removed due to trauma by cpr or collasped...it would be the REAL thing.
    It's hard to tell, as if it IS the real thing, I DO believe the photographers blurred it
    some out of respect to Michael before the publishing.

    This is not about denial, Michael did have a prosthetic tip when the tissue at the
    tip of his nose died. Talking about it in regards to a HOAX or not, is not to disrespect
    Michael but if we are looking for the truth...well, all aspects have to be looked at.



Okkaaayyy.. Look at what we're examining here, folks.. feels ridiculous, IMO. And Zen, I'd like to know exactly where you got that information, please. What source exactly? I think that all of that nose stuff is just ridiculous.. There is no way it's fake, come on...



Hello Pink Topaz, yeah maybe I can correct just somewhat.  NOBODY knows anything 100 percent
with Michael, so maybe NO facts can ever be a FACT because we are not Michael.
You do not need to be condescending with your reply...Okkkaaay?  We are all here for information and
to share with each other on this forum.  If you do not agree with something, please say nicely or not
reply?
I have heard and read that MIchael has USED a prosthetic nose tip when the tissue died in that
area from the surgery.  It is NOT uncommon with people who have had two or more rhinoplasty.
Dr. Goodstein (sp?), has mentioned this in regards to Michael's nose.  Since Dr. Goodstein is also
well known for prosthetics and the experimentation of fusion of prosthetics, it is surely referenced.
The fillers that Dr. Klein have used on MIchael's nose to help build it back up are not always permanent.
Sometimes fillers can cause irritation and infection and have to be debried.  
So, I don't take tabloids seriously, but others in the medical field have some credibility plus common
sense.
My point about the picture regard nose, is IF there was any damage (and the family DID claim damage
to the FACE as an excuse), that the photographers would surely have blurred the image somewhat
out of respect to Michael.   I am NOT saying that as the truth and NOT even saying I don't have the
doubts about the picture as a whole...I am merely EXAMINING all evidence.    :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 15, 2010, 11:39:27 PM
Quote from: "Zen"
by PinkTopaz » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:36 am

    Zen wrote:In the ambulance picture, the reason it is important, is because if this shows
    either the nose tip removed due to trauma by cpr or collasped...it would be the REAL thing.
    It's hard to tell, as if it IS the real thing, I DO believe the photographers blurred it
    some out of respect to Michael before the publishing.

    This is not about denial, Michael did have a prosthetic tip when the tissue at the
    tip of his nose died. Talking about it in regards to a HOAX or not, is not to disrespect
    Michael but if we are looking for the truth...well, all aspects have to be looked at.



Okkaaayyy.. Look at what we're examining here, folks.. feels ridiculous, IMO. And Zen, I'd like to know exactly where you got that information, please. What source exactly? I think that all of that nose stuff is just ridiculous.. There is no way it's fake, come on...



Hello Pink Topaz, yeah maybe I can correct just somewhat.  NOBODY knows anything 100 percent
with Michael, so maybe NO facts can ever be a FACT because we are not Michael.
You do not need to be condescending with your reply...Okkkaaay?  We are all here for information and
to share with each other on this forum.  If you do not agree with something, please say nicely or not
reply?
I have heard and read that MIchael has USED a prosthetic nose tip when the tissue died in that
area from the surgery.  It is NOT uncommon with people who have had two or more rhinoplasty.
Dr. Goodstein (sp?), has mentioned this in regards to Michael's nose.  Since Dr. Goodstein is also
well known for prosthetics and the experimentation of fusion of prosthetics, it is surely referenced.
The fillers that Dr. Klein have used on MIchael's nose to help build it back up are not always permanent.
Sometimes fillers can cause irritation and infection and have to be debried.  
So, I don't take tabloids seriously, but others in the medical field have some credibility plus common
sense.
My point about the picture regard nose, is IF there was any damage (and the family DID claim damage
to the FACE as an excuse), that the photographers would surely have blurred the image somewhat
out of respect to Michael.   I am NOT saying that as the truth and NOT even saying I don't have the
doubts about the picture as a whole...I am merely EXAMINING all evidence.    :geek:
Ah.. sorry, then. I get you.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Lilin1989 on January 16, 2010, 01:39:00 AM
being a Michael Jackson fan I wanna know if he had a fake nose on :|
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Amber on January 16, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
Like you guys i dont give a flying fig how he looks,he's just a great person who is great looking. JMO but the ambo pic always put me in mind of mj back in 2000 era, to me his nose here looks the same as then i always secretly wondered if this pic could of poss been taking around that era for some reason?? i dont no but its just my thoughts   :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: inuyasha on February 15, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
Quote from: "KingMJ"
I hate this picture, so apologies for posting it... but just wanted to ask whilst we're on the topic & u guys seem to know the answers to most things... was this picture photoshopped or is the nose area real?  As it has always saddened me.

(http://mikehenneke.mvourtown.com/files/2009/06/michael_jackson.jpg)
Poor MJ,it looks like a scar after plastic operation and he didn't have time to cover it with make up.I know because I have something like that too,had my jaw and nose broken 3 times (during some plastic surgeries they do a little V-shaped cut on the tip of your nose and sometimes the scar is visible)...I have to put make up over it all time too...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 15, 2010, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: "KingMJ"
I hate this picture, so apologies for posting it... but just wanted to ask whilst we're on the topic & u guys seem to know the answers to most things... was this picture photoshopped or is the nose area real?  As it has always saddened me.

(http://mikehenneke.mvourtown.com/files/2009/06/michael_jackson.jpg)

its a bandaid he said it somewhere. i forget where tho.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 15, 2010, 08:10:33 PM
So what his nose has scars!

things like this is what hurt his heart so! People being so superficial ! He was teased for a big nose teased for a lil nose dang people give it a break...

Id kiss that hurting nose oh yes I would...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Datroot on February 16, 2010, 02:42:37 AM
It just looks like a plaster over his nose.  No big deal.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: llebreknit on February 16, 2010, 03:18:59 AM
Autopsy report talks about a bandage over his nose tip, but nothing about a fake nose at all.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: doreentbird on February 16, 2010, 03:33:50 AM
Quote from: "llebreknit"
Autopsy report talks about a bandage over his nose tip, but nothing about a fake nose at all.


you are right..it does not mention that at all
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 17, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
The autopsy said there was a piece of gauze on the tip.. and "nasal structures" UNDERNEATH the skin... which would suggest that his nose did collapse at some point and had to have the cartilage reconstructed.
But this was underneath the skin, so it wasnt like a fake nose he could take off whenever he wanted...

However.. this interview with Geraldo Rivera has me puzzled.  I aways thought Geraldo was a friend of MJ .. yet here he is saying he witnessed MJ "take off" his nose to leave a stump??????  WTF???

[youtube:2qwub44b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0oI5Q8Kfc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:2qwub44b]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: the arabian nights on February 17, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
i dont care if mj had plastic surgery or not - they should leave him alone
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 17, 2010, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i dont care if mj had plastic surgery or not - they should leave him alone

As ugly as it is, i think it is necessary to debate as it fits in with the hoax...  with the autopsy report and the ambo picture.  Its a necessary evil i think.

But also...  i care that MJ had plastic surgery... because if what we are being told is true.. how awful is it that there are plastic surgeons out there who would butcher someone like this... take a very attractive face and keep slicing it open...  and just take the money and run and not care about the consequences??  Where are the ethics??  If this is true, someone should have said NO! to him...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 17, 2010, 05:46:16 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i dont care if mj had plastic surgery or not - they should leave him alone

As ugly as it is, i think it is necessary to debate as it fits in with the hoax...  with the autopsy report and the ambo picture.  Its a necessary evil i think.

But also...  i care that MJ had plastic surgery... because if what we are being told is true.. how awful is it that there are plastic surgeons out there who would butcher someone like this... take a very attractive face and keep slicing it open...  and just take the money and run and not care about the consequences??  Where are the ethics??  If this is true, someone should have said NO! to him...

so true... insecurity made him not be able to see his true self in the mirror... so heartbreakingly sad
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: doreentbird on February 17, 2010, 05:47:26 PM
if that is the truth, unless i missed it, did the autopsy report say that his nosetip was missing? All i remember reading was that he had a bandage on it. ?
Title: Re: I know why michael nose look caved in
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 17, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
It's just the shadow of the guy's hand.

And ofcourse Michael still has his own nose, he's a humanbeing right so he has his own nose like everyone else  :roll:
I have to agree on this.  What with the way he hugs the girls so close and tight, certainly if it were "glued or taped" on, it would have been a very embarrassing situation a time or two wouldn't you think 8-) .
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 17, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
Quote from: "doreentbird"
if that is the truth, unless i missed it, did the autopsy report say that his nosetip was missing? All i remember reading was that he had a bandage on it. ?

page 32, has a big 13 in top left.. says nasal passage obscured by nasal and cranial facial structures.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 17, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: "darkchild"
I do not believe that MJ has a prosthetic nose.  MJ, I love your nose.  It is just perfect to me.  Great information on this post.  Thanks!  :)
i find his nose quite cute actually :)
its a little button nose, its adorable :), not that anything was wrong with it in the first place, dam joe for saying it was big , he was gorgeous, i dont like my nose either but i live with it, Michael was gorgeous and always will be , no matter what people said :) i think he shud have stopped with his nose after the bad era it looked really good, but its still cute to this day i love his little button nose XD hehe
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: doreentbird on February 17, 2010, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "doreentbird"
if that is the truth, unless i missed it, did the autopsy report say that his nosetip was missing? All i remember reading was that he had a bandage on it. ?

page 32, has a big 13 in top left.. says nasal passage obscured by nasal and cranial facial structures.


sorry..i must be retarded..what does that mean? prothetic tip?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 17, 2010, 11:08:01 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "darkchild"
I do not believe that MJ has a prosthetic nose.  MJ, I love your nose.  It is just perfect to me.  Great information on this post.  Thanks!  :)
i find his nose quite cute actually :)
its a little button nose, its adorable :), not that anything was wrong with it in the first place, dam joe for saying it was big , he was gorgeous, i dont like my nose either but i live with it, Michael was gorgeous and always will be , no matter what people said :) i think he shud have stopped with his nose after the bad era it looked really good, but its still cute to this day i love his little button nose XD hehe
Yay, me too!! I love how you say button nose, that just sounds so adorable! I call it his snub nose or just snub or snubbie because of that cute snub tip. I don't care at all, his face is beautiful any color, shape or whatever and yes to this day his cute snub-button nose is so cute!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 17, 2010, 11:35:14 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "darkchild"
I do not believe that MJ has a prosthetic nose.  MJ, I love your nose.  It is just perfect to me.  Great information on this post.  Thanks!  :)
i find his nose quite cute actually :)
its a little button nose, its adorable :), not that anything was wrong with it in the first place, dam joe for saying it was big , he was gorgeous, i dont like my nose either but i live with it, Michael was gorgeous and always will be , no matter what people said :) i think he shud have stopped with his nose after the bad era it looked really good, but its still cute to this day i love his little button nose XD hehe
Yay, me too!! I love how you say button nose, that just sounds so adorable! I call it his snub nose or just snub or snubbie because of that cute snub tip. I don't care at all, his face is beautiful any color, shape or whatever and yes to this day his cute snub-button nose is so cute!
haha to me it looks like a little button xD that's why i call it that, i love his nose xD hehe* & your right he was gorgeous regardless of his color, or what he did to his face, he knew he was black and i knew he was one hot black guy ;) and thats all i need xD haha
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 18, 2010, 12:16:47 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
The autopsy said there was a piece of gauze on the tip.. and "nasal structures" UNDERNEATH the skin... which would suggest that his nose did collapse at some point and had to have the cartilage reconstructed.
But this was underneath the skin, so it wasnt like a fake nose he could take off whenever he wanted...

However.. this interview with Geraldo Rivera has me puzzled.  I aways thought Geraldo was a friend of MJ .. yet here he is saying he witnessed MJ "take off" his nose to leave a stump??????  WTF???

[youtube:32egozrp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0oI5Q8Kfc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:32egozrp]

WTF!!! I always had respect for this guy! OMG! well Dr. Klein said MJ did have a nose but it was too smal and he helped rebuild it, so ...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Datroot on February 18, 2010, 06:09:34 AM
WTF!!! I always had respect for this guy! OMG! well Dr. Klein said MJ did have a nose but it was too smal and he helped rebuild it, so ...[/quote]


I keep posting this - Klein is a dermatologist and cannot reconstruct facial features or any features - he's not a surgeon.  Just pointing this out - not trying to be rude.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on February 19, 2010, 07:08:56 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "doreentbird"
if that is the truth, unless i missed it, did the autopsy report say that his nosetip was missing? All i remember reading was that he had a bandage on it. ?

page 32, has a big 13 in top left.. says nasal passage obscured by nasal and cranial facial structures.

Could you please post the link or take a screen shot or something? I must be blind, I can't find it for the life of me. :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: BambiMJ on February 20, 2010, 08:59:09 AM
: Lol: 2 opérations!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 20, 2010, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
: Lol: 2 opérations!

SO WHAT... Artists do ish like that
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Eva R on February 20, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
: Lol: 2 opérations!
i looked at all those pics and all really ALL of them are FREAKIN beautiful! :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 20, 2010, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: "BambiMJ"
: Lol: 2 opérations!
yea i dont see much change, i think he only had two the media likes to exadarate things a bit to much
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 20, 2010, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
WTF!!! I always had respect for this guy! OMG! well Dr. Klein said MJ did have a nose but it was too smal and he helped rebuild it, so ...


I keep posting this - Klein is a dermatologist and cannot reconstruct facial features or any features - he's not a surgeon.  Just pointing this out - not trying to be rude.[/quote]

he said he did it with fillers, not a cosmetic surgery!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Trinity on February 20, 2010, 06:29:55 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
The autopsy said there was a piece of gauze on the tip.. and "nasal structures" UNDERNEATH the skin... which would suggest that his nose did collapse at some point and had to have the cartilage reconstructed.
But this was underneath the skin, so it wasnt like a fake nose he could take off whenever he wanted...

However.. this interview with Geraldo Rivera has me puzzled.  I aways thought Geraldo was a friend of MJ .. yet here he is saying he witnessed MJ "take off" his nose to leave a stump??????  WTF???

[youtube:1sc4k8mr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0oI5Q8Kfc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1sc4k8mr]

Ok, can't believe I'm even listening to this! I noticed a few things though that I'd like to share: Doesnt it seem as if he's saying "I had the bandaid over it" and not he had the bandaid over it at 1:47. Strange if he was talking about someone else. I think this interview is fake because there is no live footage of "Geraldo" actually saying this. Many people can imitate celeb voices. And who the heck are the "interviewers"? This is just another BS story that needs to be ignored. Enough said!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: The MJ Is Back on February 21, 2010, 08:10:17 PM
they said this was photoshopped. who ever made this got the from when he was laying on the floor at one of his concerts
[youtube:2bx29kv1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY[/youtube:2bx29kv1]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: kingofmystery on February 21, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: "Trinity"
Ok, can't believe I'm even listening to this! I noticed a few things though that I'd like to share: Doesnt it seem as if he's saying "I had the bandaid over it" and not he had the bandaid over it at 1:47. Strange if he was talking about someone else. I think this interview is fake because there is no live footage of "Geraldo" actually saying this. Many people can imitate celeb voices. And who the heck are the "interviewers"? This is just another BS story that needs to be ignored. Enough said!

Sounds like he's being interviewed by Howard Stern. I wonder if Gerlado was having some fun with this interview and playing Stern.  Stern deserves it; he's bad-mouthed and mocked MJ a lot over the years.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: BambiMJ on February 22, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
Je ne dis pas que Michael d'avoir un faux nez. Mais de nos jours être possible
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: brendanjacskon on February 23, 2010, 03:46:36 AM
Hey all, I have seen the HD photo of this and can confirm that he is not missing the tip. It's purely the shadow and lighting of the photo.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 23, 2010, 04:47:13 AM
found this.... ( dont kill the messenger!!)

By James Desborough, 26/07/2009

THIS shocking picture backs claims that Michael Jackson's nose FELL OFF after being ravaged by plastic surgery.
The picture - taken only weeks before the star died - shows him wearing his trademark shades and mask.

His facial contours are strangely flat and there is only a shadow where the tip of his nose should have been.

The snap outside a Beverly Hills jewellers in April suggested Jackson was not wearing the plastic prothestic conk insiders reveal he was reliant on.

Last night it was claimed that Jackson's false nose was missing as he lay in the morgue after death and that there was simply a HOLE in the middle of his face.

And former Neverland aide Adrian McManus said: "His nose was always a problem. In his closet he had stage glue and a jar of fake noses he told me were for disguises."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... L-OFF.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/michael_jackson/421171/MASKS-HID-HOLE-Shocking-picture-backs-claims-that-Michael-Jacksonrsquos-nose-FELL-OFF.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 23, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
found this.... ( dont kill the messenger!!)

By James Desborough, 26/07/2009

THIS shocking picture backs claims that Michael Jackson's nose FELL OFF after being ravaged by plastic surgery.
The picture - taken only weeks before the star died - shows him wearing his trademark shades and mask.

His facial contours are strangely flat and there is only a shadow where the tip of his nose should have been.

The snap outside a Beverly Hills jewellers in April suggested Jackson was not wearing the plastic prothestic conk insiders reveal he was reliant on.

Last night it was claimed that Jackson's false nose was missing as he lay in the morgue after death and that there was simply a HOLE in the middle of his face.

And former Neverland aide Adrian McManus said: "His nose was always a problem. In his closet he had stage glue and a jar of fake noses he told me were for disguises."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... L-OFF.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/michael_jackson/421171/MASKS-HID-HOLE-Shocking-picture-backs-claims-that-Michael-Jacksonrsquos-nose-FELL-OFF.html)
Not shooting the messenger.. but since becoming a fan I've seen that b**ch's nonsensical story so many times!! It's soooo stupid..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 23, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 23, 2010, 12:33:08 PM
The nose isn't caved in.. It's caved out..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 23, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
bring that nose to me LOL
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Eva R on February 24, 2010, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
found this.... ( dont kill the messenger!!)

By James Desborough, 26/07/2009

THIS shocking picture backs claims that Michael Jackson's nose FELL OFF after being ravaged by plastic surgery.
The picture - taken only weeks before the star died - shows him wearing his trademark shades and mask.

His facial contours are strangely flat and there is only a shadow where the tip of his nose should have been.

The snap outside a Beverly Hills jewellers in April suggested Jackson was not wearing the plastic prothestic conk insiders reveal he was reliant on.

Last night it was claimed that Jackson's false nose was missing as he lay in the morgue after death and that there was simply a HOLE in the middle of his face.

And former Neverland aide Adrian McManus said: "His nose was always a problem. In his closet he had stage glue and a jar of fake noses he told me were for disguises."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... L-OFF.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/michael_jackson/421171/MASKS-HID-HOLE-Shocking-picture-backs-claims-that-Michael-Jacksonrsquos-nose-FELL-OFF.html)
What a BS!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 25, 2010, 10:12:45 PM
I just hope that Michael's collapsing nose will not make the whole world collapse...

WHO CARES ?

Michael can have elephant nose, or rat nose (it's so cute ^^) or no nose at all...
Don't you think there are more important things ? I mean we all have private things, we are all hidding things sometime (I 'd like to hide a few kilos ^^) That's part of "secret garden". I don't think we should be wondering about that. It only concerns Michael (and his own nose, or no-nose  :roll: )

It's just like people having hair or not, having surgery or not. If you wear false hair,if you have surgery, it's just because you doesn't accept what you see in the mirror, not because of other people. So shoudn't we (other people) just leave Michael alone with those physical business ? It only concerns HIM and the way he loves what he sees in the mirror. No one should say about this image. That's complete personnal evolution.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 25, 2010, 10:21:53 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

Michael can have elephant nose, or rat nose (it's so cute ^^)
OMG!! How did you know that my siblings play some game about him where he acts like a cartoon "sneaky weasel" and grows a weasel nose?!! I've even drawn it on (not realistically) on Paint!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 25, 2010, 10:47:06 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

Michael can have elephant nose, or rat nose (it's so cute ^^)
OMG!! How did you know that my siblings play some game about him where he acts like a cartoon "sneaky weasel" and grows a weasel nose?!! I've even drawn it on (not realistically) on Paint!

hold on, I need google translation for such strange words  :lol:
*be right back !*
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 25, 2010, 10:50:41 PM
ok I understand the game, but I don't understand the whole thing.
Your bro & sister are playing a game about Michael ? and in this game they created, Michael changes nose ? They pretend to play with Michael or it's a game about Michael ...

english is so weird to me sometime, I am so sorry, and google makes it more weird I think  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 26, 2010, 08:31:06 AM
Is it really necessary to discuss his nose?

He's been hurt by all those BS stories in the tabloids about his nose, so why are we guys doing the same thing here?

It's not nice to act like he can't have he's own nose like he isn't a normal human.  :x
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 26, 2010, 09:24:55 AM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Is it really necessary to discuss his nose?

He's been hurt by all those BS stories in the tabloids about his nose, so why are we guys doing the same thing here?

It's not nice to act like he can't have he's own nose like he isn't a normal human.  :x

Precisely! Who cares that he had a nose job? Leave the man's nose alone already! He looks great!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 26, 2010, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Is it really necessary to discuss his nose?

He's been hurt by all those BS stories in the tabloids about his nose, so why are we guys doing the same thing here?

It's not nice to act like he can't have he's own nose like he isn't a normal human.  :x

I think that the real point is that, even if he had no nose, he would STILL be human  :roll:
Why do physical differences should make people become some kind of "alien" ?
Being "normal" is something weird. No one can be normal. "Normality ?" is just a stupid thing to "stigmatise?" people. It's only to keep people in ignorance and fear of what is different from them. We are all "not normal" whether we have a nose or not. So who cares about having a nose or not ? If Michael had "proove?" that he had a nose (or not) there would have been something not normal about his ears, about his legs, about his ***, or about his behaviour, about the way he eats, the way he sleeps, the way he puts butter on his morning toasts. Everybody looks weird to someone else in a way or another.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: rowdyangel on February 26, 2010, 04:50:54 PM
OMG I find this thread upsetting  :(
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 26, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
ok I understand the game, but I don't understand the whole thing.
Your bro & sister are playing a game about Michael ? and in this game they created, Michael changes nose ? They pretend to play with Michael or it's a game about Michael ...

english is so weird to me sometime, I am so sorry, and google makes it more weird I think  :lol:
^O^  I got way more than just a bro and sis, lemme say that! One of my sisters pretends to be Michael doing ridiculously funny yet unrealistic things, like in a cartoon, you know? If he does something he isn't supposed to be doing- sneaking around, he just grows a cute orange weasel snout over his nose and mouth all of a sudden, like a cartoon- because weasels are usually represented as sneaky animals, you know? And when people see him he just says "it's a banana", and it can vanish instantly and leave people going like, WTF?  ROFL, I feel so ridiculous explaining this, if you could see my hilarious sister do this you'd see it's really funny!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: MJ_Facts on February 27, 2010, 12:40:14 AM
Oxman sounds like he's reading this forum?!  ;)        
Where did he get this information from?
Does he know all of MJs stage and concert photos?
Did he analyse them or did he place an order to do so?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: teine21 on February 27, 2010, 12:49:38 AM
it looks like there is a tube going into his nose, look at the side of his face...there's a clear tube.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 27, 2010, 04:59:30 PM
Yes we discussed about this with french doctor. We were thinking that it was strange to have something in the nose AND a tube in the mouth, but she explained it was normal process for such medical acts.

PinkTopaz, i do my best to imagine this thing but I guess watching must be far funnier  :D

Whatever, I couldn't imagine we would still be talking about that nose 20years later  :roll:  There must be nothing happening on Earth for we have such big issues to talk about  :lol: I think that soon we will be talking about his prosthetic ****, much more fun to come  :D
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