Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: whosbadmjsbad on January 07, 2010, 09:16:27 PM

Title: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on January 07, 2010, 09:16:27 PM
So... I messaged Craig harvey on Facebook and asked him if MJ was dead or or not and this was his reply...

"Michael Jackson is dead. He died in June 2009 at UCLA."

What do you guys think??
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Mariso83 on January 07, 2010, 09:22:23 PM
I think nothing about it :P
I don't think he will say that Michael is alive.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Ninanina on January 07, 2010, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
I think nothing about it :P
I don't think he will say that Michael is alive.

Right. How could he?!
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 07, 2010, 10:28:26 PM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
So... I messaged Craig harvey on Facebook and asked him if MJ was dead or or not and this was his reply...

"Michael Jackson is dead. He died in June 2009 at UCLA."

What do you guys think??


at UCLA? i think nobody from the hospital wanted to sign the death certificate because he's dead on arrival, so not at UCLA.
and if am not wrong....i read somewhere that Latoya said that michael passed hours before arrived in UCLA?
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: rosemariaantigone on January 07, 2010, 10:29:53 PM
Sweetheart, if Craig Harvey is a part of the hoax, do you really think that he would have told a random stranger the truth?
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: MJJLives on January 07, 2010, 10:33:04 PM
Maybe a person by the name of Michael Jackson died in June 2009 at UCLA.  I am sure there are other people in this world named Michael Jackson.  It doesn't necessarily mean THE Michael Jackson - King of Pop - died.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on January 07, 2010, 11:37:43 PM
idk what answer you wanted, to be honest.

if he is part of the hoax:
1) he would not answer the truth to a stranger
2) he would not answer the truth over the internet
3) he would not risk the hoax being revealed, due to the fact that this could be sold to the media or in any other exposure.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: 123mac123 on January 07, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
Why not just bug someone on his friends list thats probably related to them, he probably told his whole family michael jackson is still alive, thats if he knew, I mean wouldnt you?
I Know fraud is illegal, but what if you set your last name as "Harvey" and Messaged one of his family members, something like "I cant believe they all still believe MJ is still alive" something like that, and see how they respond, they might accidentally slip up.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: i_need YoU on January 08, 2010, 12:52:07 AM
Quote from: "123mac123"
Why not just bug someone on his friends list thats probably related to them, he probably told his whole family michael jackson is still alive, thats if he knew, I mean wouldnt you?
I Know fraud is illegal, but what if you set your last name as "Harvey" and Messaged one of his family members, something like "I cant believe they all still believe MJ is still alive" something like that, and see how they respond, they might accidentally slip up.
hm very good point...but dont be too straight with it...kinda like ease your way to where they are like crap i just said something i shouldnt have...like ask them a more complex question about the death dont just ask...Did Michael Really die?" I mean anyone could simply say YES...

Anyways...If i were Craig even if Michael Did Die I Wouldnt Reply to some strangers emails...Why did he even add strangers lol I think He Kinda Likes Being In the Lime Light Now Heehee
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Ninanina on January 16, 2010, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: "MJJLives"
Maybe a person by the name of Michael Jackson died in June 2009 at UCLA.  I am sure there are other people in this world named Michael Jackson.  It doesn't necessarily mean THE Michael Jackson - King of Pop - died.

I am just looking for a TMZ live clip - probably from end of August.
Someone posted a link in another thread, because he mixed up "lethal" and "legal".
Then he answers the question, if anyone has really seen a body or so and said: Michael Jackson was really brought to UCLA and was pronounced dead there etc, bla bla "...(but) not THE Michael Jackson"

I may be very wrong here, because I'm not a native speaker...
Does anyone know, which video I mean?
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 17, 2010, 03:55:02 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
I think nothing about it :P
I don't think he will say that Michael is alive.

Yes, but he could just ignore it :? .
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: ASHTANGA on January 17, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
"Michael is still alive" is very serious matter. It is obvious that all the press is watching and is suspicious. Many know (TMZ...) and others are just watching the events. No one in the press will talk openly about it. Why the media can not just talk, they have to have a very large proof in hand to prove their assertion. I doubt that there is an investigative journalist in this world who is investigating the death. Aphrodite Jones? It would be a great possibility.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 17, 2010, 04:43:06 PM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
So... I messaged Craig harvey on Facebook and asked him if MJ was dead or or not and this was his reply...

"Michael Jackson is dead. He died in June 2009 at UCLA."

What do you guys think??

OMG! :o  Just came in to my mind. Harvey said he died in June, but didn't say when in june. What if MJ really passed but not on 25th of June but later or erlier.
What if he died from illness or was revived on 25th when he was pronounce dead and them, because the prognose was that he would die soon. That's why his family waited for so long for memorial and burial, and autopsy...
What is he died before June 25th, like couple days earlier and it was covered by his family until june 25th, when they decided to pronouse him dead and that's why there was problems with autopsy. Probably AEG and Sony wanted to use impersonator for concert tour instead of real MJ (it was said before June 25, that he would perform all concert, only 15-20 minutes. He probably was sick and knew he couldn't perform all show.), but then they changed their mind, because it's too dangerous for their reputation.
And probably if he died from cancer his family wanted to hide this fact while they were consulting with AEG, injected his with meds, because for a star to die from drugs is more common and legendary. :oops:
Thats why there's so much mess with the hole story - fake picture, strange fake 911 call, that ambulance could never cmoe anywhere that day, discordant memories of family members and friends, because it's all scripted lie that they cant remember. Who knows maybe he was passing slowly and he knew it. What if he was fighting with it but then gave up. And he create how he would die for public (like Elvis), his memorial and funeral, all confusion with the "facts" to give hope to his fans and become immortal in their eyes and hearts.
Like this it's all add up: the police, Murray not arrected, because he's not guilty and he probably had an agreetment with MJ to make all this story, his family, This is it movie...
I really hope that he's alive, but this tweet makes me consider this theory... :|
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Lou on January 17, 2010, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
I think nothing about it :P
I don't think he will say that Michael is alive.
Agreed. What else could he answer? Moreover, he said he died at UCLA, but weren't they saying he died at home? Contradictions...
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: ASHTANGA on January 17, 2010, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: "Venus"
OMG! :o  Just came in to my mind. Harvey said he died in June, but didn't say when in june. What if MJ really passed but not on 25th of June but later or erlier.
What if he died from illness or was revived on 25th when he was pronounce dead and them, because the prognose was that he would die soon. That's why his family waited for so long for memorial and burial, and autopsy...
What is he died before June 25th, like couple days earlier and it was covered by his family until june 25th, when they decided to pronouse him dead and that's why there was problems with autopsy. Probably AEG and Sony wanted to use impersonator for concert tour instead of real MJ (it was said before June 25, that he would perform all concert, only 15-20 minutes. He probably was sick and knew he couldn't perform all show.), but then they changed their mind, because it's too dangerous for their reputation.
And probably if he died from cancer his family wanted to hide this fact while they were consulting with AEG, injected his with meds, because for a star to die from drugs is more common and legendary. :oops:
Thats why there's so much mess with the hole story - fake picture, strange fake 911 call, that ambulance could never cmoe anywhere that day, discordant memories of family members and friends, because it's all scripted lie that they cant remember. Who knows maybe he was passing slowly and he knew it. What if he was fighting with it but then gave up. And he create how he would die for public (like Elvis), his memorial and funeral, all confusion with the "facts" to give hope to his fans and become immortal in their eyes and hearts.
Like this it's all add up: the police, Murray not arrected, because he's not guilty and he probably had an agreetment with MJ to make all this story, his family, This is it movie...
I really hope that he's alive, but this tweet makes me consider this theory... :|
:shock:
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 17, 2010, 06:15:03 PM
I dont believe the family would cover up the fact MJ died of cancer...  drugs dont make you legendary.
Music and talent make you legendary.
If it was cancer, then it would be a great opportunity to educate people and fund causes.  Remember Jade Goody and how many lives she saved through her struggle?
To me that theory makes no sense.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: ASHTANGA on January 17, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont believe the family would cover up the fact MJ died of cancer...  drugs dont make you legendary.
Music and talent make you legendary.
If it was cancer, then it would be a great opportunity to educate people and fund causes.  Remember Jade Goody and how many lives she saved through her struggle?
To me that theory makes no sense.
I agree. Even that after almost 7 months now so obvious to us. The behavior of the family is not normal. And I'm sure Katie could not bear the death of his son, he was killed that way. She could be in the hospital or even die before this tragedy.

* Does anyone know the name of the family lawyer who is following the investigation of the "death" of Michael?  :?:

Yes, the family must have a lawyer following the case, which charges the police to deal quickly and also that the punishment of Murray, right? After so many months I never knew if that lawyer is and never heard/read about it. I think this is a big clue in all this. The family is not doing anything to get justice for the "death" of Michael. But when documents are released exclusively by TMZ.

It seems that many people still have doubts about Michael being alive. Just only read and pay close attention to all the facts since the 25th of June. Is this normal? No!!!  :o
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: See on January 17, 2010, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
So... I messaged Craig harvey on Facebook and asked him if MJ was dead or or not and this was his reply...

"Michael Jackson is dead. He died in June 2009 at UCLA."

What do you guys think??

As if he is saying that cows have wings and started flying...
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 17, 2010, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I dont believe the family would cover up the fact MJ died of cancer...  drugs dont make you legendary.
Music and talent make you legendary.
If it was cancer, then it would be a great opportunity to educate people and fund causes.  Remember Jade Goody and how many lives she saved through her struggle?
To me that theory makes no sense.

What if MJ didn't want people to know he had cancer?
What if he really had skin cancer or liver cancer? People wouldn't fight with him, only his fans. Most of the people would say "he deserved it because he's pedo and he didn't want to have black skin and bla-bla-bla" It's not what I think, but it's what people (not fans) think.
You have now idea how mean people are. When in spring (april I guess) it was pronounced MJ probably dying from cancer, I was shocked and accidently I saw a video made by some young girl (20-something years old, black btw). She was sitting in front of her webcamera with mean face saying that she''s glad about cancer, because... :arrow: she couldn't get the ticket to his concert! :evil: So he wouldn't make these shows anyway and she could be ok this that. See how people are mean and stupid?! After all she started to say some bull shit about his skin color, that it's his fault and other shit. Unfortunately I don't have the link, because I'm not that crazy to put this shit to my favourites.
You know, people don't treat MIchael the way we do. And before he "died" many people hated him and would never believe he's innocent.
I don't think MJ would what people to treat him like a victim of plastic surgery and stuff like that.
I'm trying to think he's still alive and well. And I don't want his to come back. I want him to be happy.
Now, when he's gone people start to love him, people start to admit his musical genius. Not all ofcourse, but many shut up. My mother never loved Michael, but now she started to understand him and respect, to love him like a part of our family. He've always been a part of the family, because my family have to listen VERY LOUD his music durind last 20 years! He lives here. But only now they start to realise what he means to them. If he returns, they will never undestand his reasons, because it's immature and too off the wall! Yes, we love him and take him the way he is, but the world is not so kind and loyal. And there's some legal points too.
If he did fake his death I doubt he put the family and himself to such risk for crazy comeback.
 
About legendary... Yes, talent is what makes artists legendary... if they die young :roll: Remember any legendary person of XX century -Marylin Monroe, Elvis, Jim Morrison, JImmi Hendrix, Bob Marley, John Lennon and others. All they died from drugs or were killed.
That's how it works. And it's not very smart to think it's not true. It's SHOW business. And death is a part of this show. And MJ knew it - read Shmuleys tapes, or visit youtube to listen with your own ears when MJ said that. He prefered to be remembered as young MJ, not old and sick.
Not my words, btw.
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: i_need YoU on January 18, 2010, 02:32:14 AM
I think i would want people to know i died of cancer rather then drugs if i had the choice.
regardless of how he died some people are going to say he deserved it because he was a pedo or because he tried to hide his race.
So if he "died" of cancer...people will go he deserved it he dyed his skin and hurt lil kids
So if he "died" of drug overdose...people will say he deserved it. that man had it coming to him because he a pedo and the doctor jus did everyone a favor blah blah...heck some people are saying thats why murray is still free because even the cops are glad someone finally got rid of that pedo... :shock:  :shock:  OMG just got an idea!!!...remember in his previous allegations?!?!? the police were basically already choosing sides, they were trying so hard to find him guilty!! they mistreated him so bad!!! they didnt like him and it is not a secret that the police did not like him!..
WHAT IF THE POLICE ARE GOING REALLY SLOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR HIM? THEY ARE GLAD HE IS GONE :( I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW IF THIS IS TRUE :x
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 18, 2010, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
I think i would want people to know i died of cancer rather then drugs if i had the choice.
regardless of how he died some people are going to say he deserved it because he was a pedo or because he tried to hide his race.
So if he "died" of cancer...people will go he deserved it he dyed his skin and hurt lil kids
So if he "died" of drug overdose...people will say he deserved it. that man had it coming to him because he a pedo and the doctor jus did everyone a favor blah blah...heck some people are saying thats why murray is still free because even the cops are glad someone finally got rid of that pedo... :shock:  :shock:  OMG just got an idea!!!...remember in his previous allegations?!?!? the police were basically already choosing sides, they were trying so hard to find him guilty!! they mistreated him so bad!!! they didnt like him and it is not a secret that the police did not like him!..
WHAT IF THE POLICE ARE GOING REALLY SLOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR HIM? THEY ARE GLAD HE IS GONE :( I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW IF THIS IS TRUE :x

Yes, I had that thought too. And I was thinking what if there are the same people as during 2005. Not all ofcourse, but still...
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: i_need YoU on January 18, 2010, 10:55:18 PM
this leaves with us with some more research to start...who is working on the MJ death investigation and who worked on the 2005 investigation
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 18, 2010, 11:15:51 PM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
this leaves with us with some more research to start...who is working on the MJ death investigation and who worked on the 2005 investigation

Yes, but how? I live in Moscow (Russia) so I have no apportunity to ask authorities about it. Not citizen of U.S.  :?
May be there is someone on this board who works in that system?
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: i_need YoU on January 18, 2010, 11:40:24 PM
hmm well we can search for article and videos where it states names and such...idk but we need to find a way. if MJ is really gone then we need to make sure he is getting the same respect as anyone else!
Title: Re: Craig Harvey email....
Post by: Venus on January 19, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
hmm well we can search for article and videos where it states names and such...idk but we need to find a way. if MJ is really gone then we need to make sure he is getting the same respect as anyone else!

The point is that it is too twisted.

IF MJ is dead, he doesn't get the respect he deserves. And we do nothing to help the justice.

IF he's alive and we'll start to dig about police, it will cause him a lot of problems, even legal.
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