Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: susie_23 on January 03, 2010, 04:21:03 PM
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Today they broke two different stories on MJ; one about the creditors and one about the song.
Being curious, I checked my other celeb gossip site. He's got NADA on MJ. So either SOMEONE is supplying info to TMZ or my other gossip guy is slacking.
I was kinda on the fence about TMZ being involved, but now I'm giving them the eye.
Who is giving them their info?!
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Here in the UK the tabloids have been quiet for weeks.. the last story to be printed here was about some security dude trying to sell one of MJs masks.
Makes you wonder..
And i dont believe a word the tabloids print.. and they cant even be bothered to make up some lie to print at the moment... only TMZ seems to bother.
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
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i just went to tmz's site and saw this
http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/31/jermaine- ... aim-video/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/31/jermaine-jackson-michael-jackson-fbi-estate-claim-video/)
i find it funny how jermaine says something along the lines that tmz is wrong, again. It's probably nothing really, but i thought it was interesting.
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i agree about the papers here i looked today and no lie bout him very surprising made me happy for once!! :P
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Here in the UK the tabloids have been quiet for weeks.. the last story to be printed here was about some security dude trying to sell one of MJs masks.
Makes you wonder..
And i dont believe a word the tabloids print.. and they cant even be bothered to make up some lie to print at the moment... only TMZ seems to bother.
Why, though? Why does TMZ care?
I checked another well-known celeb gossip site and he's only got the story about the estate money.
Interesting that they seem to know things before anyone else.
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Yes, of course, we always proceed TMZ ;)
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Does a Jackson family member work at TMZ? I am trying to remember where I read that. Is that true or am I just going mad.... :oops:
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
I never knew TMZ existed either before June 25th. I probably still wouldn't of known the existed now if it wasn't for Michael's supposed death.
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i didnt know about tmz until the whole chris brown rhianna thing happened.
they had the first pictures of rhianna
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There is something going on here, you know.
Convinced in my bones which is why for 6 months i have been trawling the internet.
I think im closer to the truth than i have been in the past. Ive learnt to discount the articles which quote "sources". Only accounts from the first person count.. and even then video interviews are more reliable as printed words can get distorted.
There must be reasons why Dr Murray has yet to be arrested, something is going on behind the scenes that we dont know about.
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I read in a newspaper article that the LAPD is dragging its feet because they want to make sure their case is airtight.
Um.....what?
Everyone knows Murray administered the drugs that "killed" Michael.
There's nothing shady that they need to look into.
I think I believe the DEA theory, that MJ *was* threatened and is now in hiding. That explains why the LAPD has yet to press charges. Something about creating a murder to catch a murderer. And the security footage from that day is conveniently lost? Please.
You know some greedy security officer would be selling that footage to the highest bidder.
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
yes it was very popular before his death. In fact I usta check it a lot... daily.. since it began. It has def. gotten bigger since then and has added things such as TMZ Live. :)
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There is something going on here, you know.
Convinced in my bones which is why for 6 months i have been trawling the internet.
I think im closer to the truth than i have been in the past. Ive learnt to discount the articles which quote "sources". Only accounts from the first person count.. and even then video interviews are more reliable as printed words can get distorted.
There must be reasons why Dr Murray has yet to be arrested, something is going on behind the scenes that we dont know about.
yeah and Dr. Murray still practices medicine while under investigation!!! BIGGEST CLUE YET THAT THEY DONT CARE...hehe but hey I actually like Murray if MJ actually hoaxed his death becuz Murray very brave for taking on the biggest role in this hoax...But if MJ really is dead then i cant stand him or the LAPD. LOVE YOU MORE MJ
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I read in a newspaper article that the LAPD is dragging its feet because they want to make sure their case is airtight.
Um.....what?
Everyone knows Murray administered the drugs that "killed" Michael.
There's nothing shady that they need to look into.
I think I believe the DEA theory, that MJ *was* threatened and is now in hiding. That explains why the LAPD has yet to press charges. Something about creating a murder to catch a murderer. And the security footage from that day is conveniently lost? Please.
You know some greedy security officer would be selling that footage to the highest bidder.
what makes me upset is that the police didnt go to the house until a couple days after his death and allowed his family in the house where they could take stuff ( hence the security cameras) or plant stuff ( hence the prescription drugs)
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I read in a newspaper article that the LAPD is dragging its feet because they want to make sure their case is airtight.
Um.....what?
Everyone knows Murray administered the drugs that "killed" Michael.
There's nothing shady that they need to look into.
I think I believe the DEA theory, that MJ *was* threatened and is now in hiding. That explains why the LAPD has yet to press charges. Something about creating a murder to catch a murderer. And the security footage from that day is conveniently lost? Please.
You know some greedy security officer would be selling that footage to the highest bidder.
Yes, I read that, too. They don't want another O.J. Simpson case.
But after they didn't seal the scene before the family moved everything out (and maybe in?), they probably won'T be able to make good damage.
It seems like they want to sit it out.
On the other hand, we can'T really wish for Murray being arrested, as long as we believe in the hoax. I think most of us agree, that this would be the end of all hoax theories...
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I read in a newspaper article that the LAPD is dragging its feet because they want to make sure their case is airtight.
Um.....what?
Everyone knows Murray administered the drugs that "killed" Michael.
There's nothing shady that they need to look into.
I think I believe the DEA theory, that MJ *was* threatened and is now in hiding. That explains why the LAPD has yet to press charges. Something about creating a murder to catch a murderer. And the security footage from that day is conveniently lost? Please.
You know some greedy security officer would be selling that footage to the highest bidder.
Yes, I read that, too. They don't want another O.J. Simpson case.
But after they didn't seal the scene before the family moved everything out (and maybe in?), they probably won'T be able to make good damage.
It seems like they want to sit it out.
On the other hand, we can'T really wish for Murray being arrested, as long as we believe in the hoax. I think most of us agree, that this would be the end of all hoax theories...
thank you!!! thats why i am glad that murray is not arrested but if MJ really has passed then i am deeply upset
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I agree.
If they arrest Murray, it's all over.
I've got my hopes up so far that if they do arrest him, it's going to hurt twice as hard learning the truth. :(
But we have people like jonellstar and the other hoax videographers that have mounds of evidence that point the other way and there's that blackorwhite person who claims to have insider info that says "Yes, he's alive."
I just don't know what to believe anymore. :?
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
I heard that Michael owns TMZ.
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Does a Jackson family member work at TMZ? I am trying to remember where I read that. Is that true or am I just going mad.... :oops:
I heard that Michael owns TMZ....? :roll: :roll:
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check this out..this is from todays TMZ live..
listen to what harvey says..its about 2.57 and forward
http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive?autoplay=tru ... 0f1253143a (http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive?autoplay=true&mediaKey=95338091-ac9b-4396-bc98-e40f1253143a) :lol:
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I read in a newspaper article that the LAPD is dragging its feet because they want to make sure their case is airtight.
Um.....what?
Everyone knows Murray administered the drugs that "killed" Michael.
There's nothing shady that they need to look into.
I think I believe the DEA theory, that MJ *was* threatened and is now in hiding. That explains why the LAPD has yet to press charges. Something about creating a murder to catch a murderer. And the security footage from that day is conveniently lost? Please.
You know some greedy security officer would be selling that footage to the highest bidder.
A very good point about the security footage that removed from MJ's rented home. I remember reading an online article saying the LAPD was desparately trying to locate that footage. Well-said post. Thanks!
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
When it concerns celebrities and reality stars, yes there are quite popular. But what makes me doubt that they are in this is that Michael hated papparazzi. And here in the US, these guys are the WORSE. An average papparazzi is a saint compare to these guys. Me thinks that like us, they doubt that he is dead. And they are just doing everything they can to be the first to break the story.
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I agree.
If they arrest Murray, it's all over.
I've got my hopes up so far that if they do arrest him, it's going to hurt twice as hard learning the truth. :(
But we have people like jonellstar and the other hoax videographers that have mounds of evidence that point the other way and there's that blackorwhite person who claims to have insider info that says "Yes, he's alive."
I just don't know what to believe anymore. :?
Well, if Murray is able to practice medicine, then I really doubt that he will be arrested. But even if he is, I still will have to follow this hoax thing through. Because after this long and him still doing his job, I really doubt that any "punishment" he could recieve (because if it does go to court, he could still be found "innocent") would be all that bad. Not after all of this. If they just give ONE day in prison, just one, I will believe that Michael is indeed dead.
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But why would we believe that Murray is in prison??? Just because the newspapers and news channels would say that? You never know, that could be a BIG lie too! ;)
p.s. though i believe i'd be the first one to lose the faith if this happens. :roll:
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Is it possible that Murray's arrest (if he is) will force MJ out of hiding?
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Today they broke two different stories on MJ; one about the creditors and one about the song.
Being curious, I checked my other celeb gossip site. He's got NADA on MJ. So either SOMEONE is supplying info to TMZ or my other gossip guy is slacking.
I was kinda on the fence about TMZ being involved, but now I'm giving them the eye.
Who is giving them their info?!
I had heard awhile back that Michael owns TMZ .
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I believe more than ever that MJ is behind the songs being leaked.
It pissed Sony right the hell off, and we all know MJ's feelings towards them.
If Michael does owe TMZ, that explains why they're the first to break MJ related news.
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Is it possible that Murray's arrest (if he is) will force MJ out of hiding?
I def think Murray being arrested would bring Michael out of hiding...I don't think Michael would want anyone to lose everything they have just for his own well being...Michael was the list bit selfish IMO.
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I agree.
If they arrest Murray, it's all over.
I've got my hopes up so far that if they do arrest him, it's going to hurt twice as hard learning the truth. :(
But we have people like jonellstar and the other hoax videographers that have mounds of evidence that point the other way and there's that blackorwhite person who claims to have insider info that says "Yes, he's alive."
I just don't know what to believe anymore. :?
If Murray was going to be arrested they would have done it already no matter who died. Do you all remember OJ Simpson? He was arrested not long after he supposedly killed his wife (I believe that he did) he remained in jail until the trial was over. The police had circumstancial evidence like a bloody glove in his yard, but he was still arrested. Murray administered the drug, which as we all know is not legal to have in a home setting, that questionably killed MJ. No one else was up there in that room. I personally don't think he will ever be arrested for this, regardless of the outcome with Michael. ( I still believe with my whole heart that he is alive)
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I never even knew of TMZ before Michaels "death". Is this site quite in the popular in US for celebrity gossip? They also seem to be the first to know stuff, it makes me think that unscrupulous methods are used in some cases.
I think you are right read more about it further down
This is the original side from which I have took the information Spiegel is known in Germany as a serious source:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/0, ... 73,00.html (http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/0,1518,633373,00.html)
30/06/2009
Gossip website TMZ
Paparazzi inferno on the Internet
Gregor Peter Schmitz in Los Angeles reported
No one was quicker: Six minutes before the coroner announced the gossip site TMZ the death of Michael Jackson. The U.S. site does not propose for the first time renowned media. That brings its creators recognition - and criticism of dubious research methods.
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As the founder of the website TMZ searched an office, they were right on the West Hollywood's Sunset Boulevard looking for. Here is offered to the young trendy people dream factory everything he needs: classy nightclubs such as the Hyde Lounge, send sun tanning studios - and a fitness center with the simple name "Crunch," which suggests, loosely translated, one's body for perfect figure to take properly into the forceps.
Just the world of TMZ, therefore, an acronym for "Thirty Miles zone," the Dreißigmeilen radius around Los Angeles, where most of the show stars live - and the many starlets eager to be famous. TMZ depicts who is in the area in and who out. This creates the website now so good that after only four years long existence of their competitors take the screws, including the most prestigious media.
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The rest of the world was that clear with the latest TMZ coverage of Michael Jackson's death. "We have just learned that Michael Jackson has died. He was 50," reported the site just last Thursday afternoon at 14:20 clock time in Los Angeles - and was still six minutes faster than the coroner, who concluded that death.
In a flash the news spread, she was chased around the world of Internet services like Twitter and Facebook. While the U.S. media, the revelation of long-TMZ dare not right, but in the end they had to run after this. 'TMZ was the reports of Jackson's death near the front, "admitted the New York Times ran a contrite.
The website maker killed her triumph in thoroughly. Nearly every hour they deliver news updates since the death in terms of Jackson on their website - about autopsies, police emergency, the battle for custody of Jackson's children, the funeral plans. "This was the most impressive in a long series of triumphs TMZ," attested to the Los Angeles Times who is beaten regularly by the site on their home market.
The list of paparazzi scoops of TMZ is long. Thus, TMZ was the first medium that an anti-Semitic tirade of superstar Mel Gibson documented. It caught the prominent Series Starring Alec Baldwin, as he berated his daughter on the answering machine as a "thoughtless little pig." Party icon Paris Hilton, TMZ searchers remained so stubbornly on the heels of that, she tried to advertise with unflattering labels Messages to a truce.
Who has to have an operation, who knutscht with whom?
More than four million visitors the site is now on average per month. In a daily TV show also presents a co-founder Harvey Levin, a former lawyer and a reporter, and his team of mostly young Internet and video reporters the gossip highlights of the day - who's in the Thirty Miles eating area where that face is scars from cosmetic surgery, who knutscht precisely with whom? The very competitive young American viewer a switch if Levin is the high priest of pop culture in the evening of the day and a soft drink sucking querying images of the day of his aides.
THE DEATH OF MICHAEL JACKSON
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Music, pictures, wallpapers: All about the King of Pop
The approximately eight million U.S. dollars annual budget for major broadcast and side represents media giant Time Warner, which reportedly earns it a small profit. Just because of the Time-Warner-financing - to the kingdom belongs to, inter alia, the original news magazine "Time" - bring the dubious research methods of TMZ, more and more into focus.
Levin, for example, freely admits, to pay fees information - a practice that is frowned upon by many U.S. media organizations. Keep competitors from TMZ, startled his colleagues even before payments back to police officers or nurses did not exist, such as Jackson. "Why they should give an employee of the hospital this information? Out of pure kindness?" Angry Rob Silverstein by the celebrity gossip show "Access Hollywood" in the Los Angeles Times about the rapid death message.
It is not the first time that Web pages or tabloid media supplant more established U.S. media organizations. The Drudge Report, then still largely unknown, revealed Bill Clinton's Lewinsky affair. The infidelity of former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards brought a reporter for the National Enquirer by persistent leaf revolver research to light.
Paparazzi tough methods
But only seems to TMZ, with its aggressive paparazzi imagery massenfähig making methods - and thus ensures shivering in Los Angeles, is the tough and nasty gossip columnists really used to. Rihanna was dressed as the singer in March this year badly by her boyfriend, was seen quickly on the gossip Web site, the photo of the singer seriously injured. According to the Internet and are unpopular with many Videorechercheure celebrities. Singer Seal, husband of model Heidi Klum, called them "scum." And Michael Jackson fled regularly before the celebrity-hunters - the video with the last presented him with relish after his death on the TMZ website.
Levin fights such criticism does not. On the contrary, he even advertises paparazzi stringent standards, it should not be too crazy out there. But he also argued in interviews that meant a little wild gossip and colorful pictures so not the end of Western civilization - that life is now views as a colorful magazine, not like the front page of a news paper.
Gray headlines sure knows Levin. For as soon as Highlights of Jackson's death is over, even for TMZ again returns to the everyday reality is - and who himself is in Los Angeles on many days of boring pictures and videos of stars without makeup, of lopsided breasts or a drunken starlet.
Even shortly after Jackson's death, creeps slowly back to the daily life of this site TMZ. After the global hype around the "King of Pop" is the latest top news about the sudden death of Billy Mays. Who gained notoriety as a loud television salesman for glamorous products such as Oxi-Clean - a carpet cleaner.
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I agree.
If they arrest Murray, it's all over.
I've got my hopes up so far that if they do arrest him, it's going to hurt twice as hard learning the truth. :(
But we have people like jonellstar and the other hoax videographers that have mounds of evidence that point the other way and there's that blackorwhite person who claims to have insider info that says "Yes, he's alive."
I just don't know what to believe anymore. :?
If Murray was going to be arrested they would have done it already no matter who died. Do you all remember OJ Simpson? He was arrested not long after he supposedly killed his wife (I believe that he did) he remained in jail until the trial was over. The police had circumstancial evidence like a bloody glove in his yard, but he was still arrested. Murray administered the drug, which as we all know is not legal to have in a home setting, that questionably killed MJ. No one else was up there in that room. I personally don't think he will ever be arrested for this, regardless of the outcome with Michael. ( I still believe with my whole heart that he is alive)
I have put this info here, I thik it fits together. A fan has called Detectiv Smith and has asked him about the investigation, so look what he answered (it is not the whole phonecall!):
Me: "We are VERY anxious to get some movement in Michael's case and Justice for him. We don't want Michael's case to into a Black Hole and people forget."
Det Smith: "No, No One is going to forget about a case of this magnitude. No one is going to forget Michael Jackson. Not someone of this magnitude."
Me: No, that goes without saying, No one will ever forget Michael Jackson. We just don't want them to forget about his case and Michael getting justice."
Det Smith: "I understand."
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Me: "What is the next step because it's been a few months since a lot of Activity in Michael's investigation since last July/Agust.. but it has gone silent."
Det Smith: "The next step is after our investigation is complete, is to turn over the case to the District Attorneys' Office and they will do one of two things: 1). Bring Charges in his case OR 2). Drop the Case."
There are two possibilities, we must wait and see what happenes. I hope I can bring a little bit light in the daknes. Right now it is for me very hard to believe that he is alive, it is sometimes. I do hope that he is alive of course!
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And again, TMZ scoops every other gossip and news site.
I couldn't find anything about this on any site (including CNN!) other than TMZ, which again begs the questions:
Who is giving them info? And why TMZ?