Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: DancingTheDream on December 31, 2009, 09:19:46 PM
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Michael Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, has subpoenaed medical and other records from the UCLA Medical Center because he believes the records could reveal evidence of foul play in Jackson's death -- and the subpoena has outraged MJ estate lawyers ... TMZ has learned.

Joe's lawyer, Brian Oxman, sent 2 subpoenas to the UCLA Medical Center -- the hospital where Michael Jackson was pronounced dead on June 25. Oxman is asking for a number of documents, including medical records, autopsy reports, autopsy photos, medications and prognosis assessments.

Joe Jackson tells TMZ his entire family is behind the subpoenas -- Katherine, the brothers and sisters, along with him. He says they all believe the medical records will show what was in Jackson's body when he passed and they believe the information will expose foul play.

We've obtained a letter sent to Oxman by estate lawyer Howard Weitzman, in which Weitzman calls the subpoenas "clearly improper." Weitzman claims the subpoenas violate Jackson's right of privacy and the physician/patient privilege. Weitzman also says the subpoenas are irrelevant to Joe Jackson's only legal claim -- a financial allowance.

This strikes me as very odd.

1.  The family have yet to see the autopsy reports and photographs and medical reports???   HuH?  :?

2.   The lawyers are angry as they claim that this will VIOLATE MICHAELS PRIVACY AND THE PHYSICIAN/PATIENT PRIVILEGE.   But surely this no longer stands now the man is "dead"?  They can release FBI files on the man but not release medical and autopsy information to the family??


MAKES NO SENSE!!!
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on December 31, 2009, 09:23:22 PM
I am with you on that, Makes no sense if he has gone?
BUT maybe this is the beggining of the end? The reveal, This way ALL the Jackson's can make out they had no idea it was a hoax?
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: simplyme on December 31, 2009, 09:26:03 PM
Looks like they are pressing the issue because the investigation isn't going anywhere.  Good for them.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: mjboogie on December 31, 2009, 10:24:43 PM
WTH????? I gotta take all this in. Sorry guys this is all that would come out of my mouth on this. And again, there is our #1 information provider. TMZ :evil:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: TracyK on December 31, 2009, 10:28:22 PM
Joe Jackson tells TMZ his entire family is behind the subpoenas -- Katherine, the brothers and sisters, along with him. He says they all believe the medical records will show what was in Jackson's body when he passed and they believe the information will expose foul play.

This is a bunch of hooey!!! The family knows what's in that report. They had there own remember!!??? Summin's up in Cali!
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Chance on December 31, 2009, 10:35:56 PM
uh didn't the family have their own autopsy done?
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: darkchild on December 31, 2009, 10:53:55 PM
by Chance ยป Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:35 am

uh didn't the family have their own autopsy done?

That is what I remember being said on the news.  Hmmm, very interesting, and the plot thickens.  Erm.... I better stir the plot, and just let it simmer. ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: becca26 on December 31, 2009, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: "Chance"
uh didn't the family have their own autopsy done?
Exactly!!! :?  You think they want to compare notes? My head hurts, this is just banana's :?
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: becca26 on December 31, 2009, 11:40:39 PM
Why a the start of the letter do they write Michael Joseph Jackson("Michael")? It just seems a bit strange. Also they speak of MJ's ss# being private, is'ant this also been made public already? Please correct me if I am wrong. :D Also at the end of the letter they said that 2 subpoeans for the same info have been sent which means what? :?
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Game Player on January 01, 2010, 07:18:22 AM
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
I am with you on that, Makes no sense if he has gone?
BUT maybe this is the beggining of the end? The reveal, This way ALL the Jackson's can make out they had no idea it was a hoax?

I believe that the family will act like they didnt know so people dont judge them so harshly for what they have said in interviews. :P
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: lisap27 on January 01, 2010, 07:23:21 AM
how has the family not seen autopsy reports when apparently the world has seen 2 versions of it already!!  :shock:  :shock:

contradicting as they where but there has been 2..

i'm confused, lost, crazy, loop de loop... whatever.. i'm going crackers with it..  :?  :?  :?  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: susie_23 on January 01, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
I am with you on that, Makes no sense if he has gone?
BUT maybe this is the beggining of the end? The reveal, This way ALL the Jackson's can make out they had no idea it was a hoax?

Hmm....I think I agree with you.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Datroot on January 01, 2010, 08:35:48 AM
The Jacksons had their own autopsy done so they must have the results of that one at least.  Unless they never had their own one done at all - in which case they lied.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: mehere on January 01, 2010, 08:46:46 AM
Well what do you know....TMZ again.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: angelshadow on January 01, 2010, 08:52:46 AM
TMZ of course, as usual ....... ;)
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: larab on January 01, 2010, 08:54:14 AM
a second autopsy would be totally useless.. maybe the toxicologic tests were performed twice, but not the autopsy.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Game Player on January 01, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
People cant keep their medical records private after death? I thought they could in order to keep their dignity and stuff...
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 01, 2010, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: "lisap27"
how has the family not seen autopsy reports when apparently the world has seen 2 versions of it already!!  :shock:  :shock:

contradicting as they where but there has been 2..

i'm confused, lost, crazy, loop de loop... whatever.. i'm going crackers with it..  :?  :?  :?  :lol:  :lol:

The autopsy reports you have read are both FALSE.

This has been proved in the behaviour of the Coroners office over the leaked report of Britanny Murphey.  When this was leaked the Coroner immediately issued a statement saying that they were investigating this link and into how TMZ obtained it.

For both of the autopsy reports that have been reported in concern to MJ.. the Coroner has always sustained that these are FALSE and no investigation was launched.

Safe to say both of these reports were made up and false.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 01, 2010, 01:16:20 PM
Maybe Joe wants to earn money by selling the pictures/reports etc ;)
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: angelshadow on January 01, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
God this everything is unexplicable so illogically ... :roll:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Grenat on January 01, 2010, 05:13:04 PM
What stroke me is that they wrote specifically "Michael Joseph Jackson"
Why so precise ? If they would just have told Michael Jackson it would be already fine, We know who they are talking about anyway
What do you think ?
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: lisap27 on January 01, 2010, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "lisap27"
how has the family not seen autopsy reports when apparently the world has seen 2 versions of it already!!  :shock:  :shock:

contradicting as they where but there has been 2..

i'm confused, lost, crazy, loop de loop... whatever.. i'm going crackers with it..  :?  :?  :?  :lol:  :lol:

The autopsy reports you have read are both FALSE.

This has been proved in the behaviour of the Coroners office over the leaked report of Britanny Murphey.  When this was leaked the Coroner immediately issued a statement saying that they were investigating this link and into how TMZ obtained it.

For both of the autopsy reports that have been reported in concern to MJ.. the Coroner has always sustained that these are FALSE and no investigation was launched.

Safe to say both of these reports were made up and false.

i had a feeling this was the case.. but it was on sky news and everything.. about one of them!!! not the main page but on the index page!!

i also read the family wanted a 2nd autopsy cos they wasn't convinced it was Mike.. sure i read that on here!!!  :shock:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 01, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

2.   The lawyers are angry as they claim that this will VIOLATE MICHAELS PRIVACY AND THE PHYSICIAN/PATIENT PRIVILEGE.   But surely this no longer stands now the man is "dead"?  They can release FBI files on the man but not release medical and autopsy information to the family??[/b][/color]

MAKES NO SENSE!!!

Suprised? No.
Joe didint know his son had a drug problem which is odd considering that if Michael was a painkiller addict then he most likely was taking these medicin for years and Joe had never meet Dr. Murray...
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 01, 2010, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

2.   The lawyers are angry as they claim that this will VIOLATE MICHAELS PRIVACY AND THE PHYSICIAN/PATIENT PRIVILEGE.   But surely this no longer stands now the man is "dead"?  They can release FBI files on the man but not release medical and autopsy information to the family??[/b][/color]

MAKES NO SENSE!!!

Suprised? No.
Joe didint know his son had a drug problem which is odd considering that if Michael was a painkiller addict then he most likely was taking these medicin for years and Joe had never meet Dr. Murray...

How could Joe Jackson not know that when MJ went public in the 90's to his addiction and spent time in rehab?
My head hurts.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: lisap27 on January 01, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
JOE was the one who introduced Mike to Dr Murray!! its on a thread here somewhere.. in vegas..
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 01, 2010, 05:57:47 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
JOE was the one who introduced Mike to Dr Murray!! its on a thread here somewhere.. in vegas..
Yes I know but that was written in some magazine, he have not ever meet Dr Murray neither did he know who he was until after his sons death which is what he stated in an interview and since this come from his mouth it would mean that this is Joes truth.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 01, 2010, 05:58:55 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"

2.   The lawyers are angry as they claim that this will VIOLATE MICHAELS PRIVACY AND THE PHYSICIAN/PATIENT PRIVILEGE.   But surely this no longer stands now the man is "dead"?  They can release FBI files on the man but not release medical and autopsy information to the family??[/b][/color]

MAKES NO SENSE!!!

Suprised? No.
Joe didint know his son had a drug problem which is odd considering that if Michael was a painkiller addict then he most likely was taking these medicin for years and Joe had never meet Dr. Murray...

How could Joe Jackson not know that when MJ went public in the 90's to his addiction and spent time in rehab?
My head hurts.
Yes my head hurts too.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: lisap27 on January 01, 2010, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "lisap27"
JOE was the one who introduced Mike to Dr Murray!! its on a thread here somewhere.. in vegas..
Yes I know but that was written in some magazine, he have not ever meet Dr Murray neither did he know who he was until after his sons death which is what he stated in an interview and since this come from his mouth it would mean that this is Joes truth.


ohhh wow!!! i didn't know that..  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on January 01, 2010, 06:34:32 PM
Joe Jackson reminds me of Homer Simpson, Everything he says is followed by a "Doh!"
LkL, "where is Michael buried?" Joe "I DUNNO?? DOH?"
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: angelshadow on January 01, 2010, 06:38:57 PM
Oh no, now I think of Joe always on the Simpsons :lol:
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 01, 2010, 06:42:29 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "lisap27"
JOE was the one who introduced Mike to Dr Murray!! its on a thread here somewhere.. in vegas..
Yes I know but that was written in some magazine, he have not ever meet Dr Murray neither did he know who he was until after his sons death which is what he stated in an interview and since this come from his mouth it would mean that this is Joes truth.


ohhh wow!!! i didn't know that..  :shock:  :shock:
But isint this weird?

Some family member knew M. Jackson had a drug problem and insited him to undergo rehab in January but his own father didint know that he even had a drug problem...
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: Chance on January 01, 2010, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: "TheKingWillReturn"
Joe Jackson reminds me of Homer Simpson, Everything he says is followed by a "Doh!"
LkL, "where is Michael buried?" Joe "I DUNNO?? DOH?"


hahaha that's true!
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: TheKingWillReturn on January 01, 2010, 06:56:48 PM
We Are lucky to have Joe "Homer" Simpson, sorry i mean Jackson, He lets his mouth go before he puts his brain into gear, More truth out of his mouth than he realises.
Title: Re: Joe Jackson has not seen autopsy or medical records???
Post by: MyMindseye on January 01, 2010, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: "becca26"
Why a the start of the letter do they write Michael Joseph Jackson("Michael")? It just seems a bit strange. Also they speak of MJ's ss# being private, is'ant this also been made public already? Please correct me if I am wrong. :D Also at the end of the letter they said that 2 subpoeans for the same info have been sent which means what? :?

Wasnt it proven awhile back that Michael had legally changed his name to Michael Joe Jackson because of his prior falling out with Joe? Wouldnt this make an autopsy for "Michael Joeseph Jackson" Bogus?  Like one poster said possibly the beginning of the end leading to the 18th and the decision about Murray and the will revocation hearing it may all be related you guys.  My head hurts too :roll:
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