Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: iMJacksonfaN on December 30, 2009, 06:06:11 AM
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Okay.. I was seraching for links made 24th june and earlier.. Then I came across two links..
Maybe this have been posted before, and maybe I put it on wrong place, but I think this is odd.
Okay, first off which was made 3rd June: http://johnjohnsaidit.com/michael-jacks ... ly-pissed/ (http://johnjohnsaidit.com/michael-jackson-is-extremely-pissed/)
The singer has been locked in talks to perform with sister Janet and brothers Jackie, Tito, Jermaine and Marlon and on Monday. He revealed to website TMZ.com[/color] that the concert will go ahead.
This is another thing.. How and why? Can somebody try to help me if this guy had or have a connection with Michael Jackson at all?
http://hubpages.com/hub/Rob-Simone-Book ... el-Jackson (http://hubpages.com/hub/Rob-Simone-Book-The-Mysterious-Death-of-Michael-Jackson)
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I have no idea how/why, but I really think TMZ are in on this :P
The only thing I can think of right now is that the person who took the photo of MJ in the ambulance works for TMZ and is Michael's friend? :/
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Or who Photoshopped the photo? :lol:
-Ben Evenstad took the picture he says.. Because he was there that day and the othe..(day)
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
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Did you know... Harvey was the journalist who uncovered Chandler's use of the drug to insert false memories into his son before trial. Harvey also discovered and reported Chandler's attempts to extort Michael prior to the allegations being leveled against him. Harvey Levin uncovered information on the Chandlers that made it an open and shut case for Michael's team. Harvey was the ONLY journalist at the time investigating the posibility of Michael's innocense rather then immediatly condemning him. Due to Harvey's diligence, a great deal of information was uncovered that we know today as truth, that pointed towards Michael being the actual victim of these charges. Michael owes Harvey a debt of gratitude. This might well be the reason Harvey always gets the scoop.
Edited becase I got my Harveys backwards again.
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
:o :o :o :shock: :o
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I am seriously starting to doubt that TMZ had anything to do with Michael's hoax, previously I thought that this tabloid had a little dignity left by not ever state Jacko. But man was I wrong! They have written some horrible stories about Michael while he was alive. Sure they had the first report about his death but so was the case with Brittany Murphy. They were wrong when stating that is was Michael who singed the 1993 allegation deal, when it was in fact his insurance company (lawyers).
@Bec Thanks for the information!
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Who knows, maybe they're writing Jacko so people believe TMZ has taken control, and tries to avoid the "rumour" that MJ and TMZ are teaming up.
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Yes - I actually don't think MJ minded being called 'Jacko' - its a natural name to call someone named Jackson - I have friends with that name and they don't mind being called Jacko. Now Wacko Jacko is another thing altogether but being called Jacko is not too bad - its a term of endearment to some.
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Yes - I actually don't think MJ minded being called 'Jacko' - its a natural name to call someone named Jackson - I have friends with that name and they don't mind being called Jacko. Now Wacko Jacko is another thing altogether but being called Jacko is not too bad - its a term of endearment to some.
Actually you are wrong, he HATED these names and to be referred to as Jacko or Wacko Jacko hurt him deeply. He stated this on several occasions, don’t claim anything different.
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Yes - I actually don't think MJ minded being called 'Jacko' - its a natural name to call someone named Jackson - I have friends with that name and they don't mind being called Jacko. Now Wacko Jacko is another thing altogether but being called Jacko is not too bad - its a term of endearment to some.
Actually you are wrong, he HATED these names and to be referred to as Jacko or Wacko Jacko hurt him deeply. He stated this on several occasions, don’t claim anything different.
If you read my post properly, you would see that I said 'Wacko Jacko' is another thing and I agree he would not wish to be called Wacko Jacko. Jacko on its own is not a rude name - as I said in my post, I know people who are called Jackson and are known as Jacko - as a term of endearment. I have never heard Michael state that he hated to be called Jacko - I am assuming he didn't like it - but the post is about TMZ and I am just saying that, if MJ has connections with TMZ, they may be referring to him as Jacko with his consent. Don't jump down my throat please.
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
:D we must both be senile i heard this to tmz is 4 years old ;) :lol:
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If you want to think that Michael wasn’t hurt when people called him Jacko, then so be it. It’s a shame that you have no idea of how wrong you are.
Peace
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I am not saying he didn't like it - read the post properly - anyway It would be interesting to know how you know these things for sure.
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I think he hated to be called Jacko. Yeah also wacko jacko but also Jacko. I remember that interview about him telling about how horrible wacko jacko sounds you know. And he also said I am not Jacko, I am Jackson.
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ok but we are talking about TMZ and their connections to MJ - they may have had his consent to call him Jacko in that particular instance.
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I am not saying he didn't like it - read the post properly - anyway It would be interesting to know how you know these things for sure.
You think when tabloids use the term Jacko they use it in a friendly way? Best buddies? No of course they are always referring to Wacko, it has come to mean Jacko equals Wacko, no matter if they only use one of these horrible names.
I know this since I have read, seen and heard all interviews Michael have been giving, you’re assuming, I know since I have heard this from his mouth, he didn’t dislike he hated these words.
I don’t have time to argue with you, have a nice day! Its all for L.O.V.E
Peace
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I'm not arguing, just trying to get my point across (to no avail obviously).
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There are many people saying Jacko, just because they are too lazy saying Jackson :evil:
-Also they've heared it from other tabloids that's writing these shit articles about molestion and this false shit.
Things in the media shouldn't always be used or said.. Because they're making money of writing nosense and sell a "good story"
They know Michael Jackson's talent, and how great he is, but anyways the push all they can get out of him, and even make own stories.. :cry:
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Did you know... Harvey was the journalist who uncovered Chandler's use of the drug to insert false memories into his son before trial. Harvey also discovered and reported Chandler's attempts to extort Michael prior to the allegations being leveled against him. Craig Harvey uncovered information on the Chandlers that made it an open and shut case for Michael's team. Harvey was the ONLY journalist at the time investigating the posibility of Michael's innocense rather then immediatly condemning him. Due to Harvey's diligence, a great deal of information was uncovered that we know today as truth, that pointed towards Michael being the actual victim of these charges. Michael owes Harvey a debt of gratitude. This might well be the reason Harvey always gets the scoop.
Just trying to understand your info here....as Craig Harvey works for the LA Coroner's office. Harvey Levin works for TMZ. Harvey was a lawyer, and he taught law between 1977-1996. He was a legal analyst and reporter before becoming a celebrity reporter, which later led him to TMZ, of course. But I've never heard of a connection between him and the Jordan Chandler case as you've mentioned. Are you talking about Craig Harvey, or Harvey Levin?
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Thank you for bringing this back to my memory!
OK, here might be the connection and this might lead to even more...
In 1996 Michael formed a COmpany called Kingdom Entertainment with Prince Al Waleed Bn Talal.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 54,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,987454,00.html)
Al Waleed's company is Kingdom Holdings and they invest in Hotels, TV/News/Entertanment, banks etc.
In 1997 (just one year after establishing Kingdom Entertainment) he bought 5% shares of now Time Warner (former Netscape).
During the last years, they invested more into Time Warner and "KHC intends to continue to explore investment opportunities with Time Warner."
http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_TMT_TimeWarner.asp (http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_TMT_TimeWarner.asp)
Now look, who owns TMZ 8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com) (the box on the right side)
And look, who owns CNN 8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnn) (again, the box on the right side)
If we believe, TMZ and Larry King is in, it may bring us to the conclusion, that Prince Al Waleed is in as well, right?
What else?
"Prince Alwaleed joined with Colony Capital, LLC, a private international investment firm controlled by Thomas J Barrack Jr, in 2006 to take Fairmont private and to combine it with Raffles."
http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_HM ... irmont.asp (http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_HMgmComp_Fairmont.asp)
Colony Capital was involved in the This Is It tour and invested 23,5 mill $ in Neverland in 2008.
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Thank you for bringing this back to my memory!
OK, here might be the connection and this might lead to even more...
In 1996 Michael formed a COmpany called Kingdom Entertainment with Prince Al Waleed Bn Talal.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 54,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,987454,00.html)
Al Waleed's company is Kingdom Holdings and they invest in Hotels, TV/News/Entertanment, banks etc.
In 1997 (just one year after establishing Kingdom Entertainment) he bought 5% shares of now Time Warner (former Netscape).
During the last years, they invested more into Time Warner and "KHC intends to continue to explore investment opportunities with Time Warner."
http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_TMT_TimeWarner.asp (http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_TMT_TimeWarner.asp)
Now look, who owns TMZ 8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com) (the box on the right side)
And look, who owns CNN 8-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnn) (again, the box on the right side)
If we believe, TMZ and Larry King is in, it may bring us to the conclusion, that Prince Al Waleed is in as well, right?
What else?
"Prince Alwaleed joined with Colony Capital, LLC, a private international investment firm controlled by Thomas J Barrack Jr, in 2006 to take Fairmont private and to combine it with Raffles."
http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_HM ... irmont.asp (http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_HMgmComp_Fairmont.asp)
Colony Capital was involved in the This Is It tour and invested 23,5 mill $ in Neverland in 2008.
Wow, very good information and that lead to many things. And isn't it Colony Capital the ones that bought part of Neverland or invested in it??
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Did you know... Harvey was the journalist who uncovered Chandler's use of the drug to insert false memories into his son before trial. Harvey also discovered and reported Chandler's attempts to extort Michael prior to the allegations being leveled against him. Craig Harvey uncovered information on the Chandlers that made it an open and shut case for Michael's team. Harvey was the ONLY journalist at the time investigating the posibility of Michael's innocense rather then immediatly condemning him. Due to Harvey's diligence, a great deal of information was uncovered that we know today as truth, that pointed towards Michael being the actual victim of these charges. Michael owes Harvey a debt of gratitude. This might well be the reason Harvey always gets the scoop.
What???? I didn't know this ... I read the article about the things that Evan did .. but I have never heard that it was Harvey that uncovered it!!!!
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Jackson reportedly told fans, "I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows. I only wanted to do 10, and take the tour around the world to other cities, not 50 in one place.
Travis Payne said the totally opposite thing of this statement in his interview with Raffles ...
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Jackson reportedly told fans, "I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows. I only wanted to do 10, and take the tour around the world to other cities, not 50 in one place.
Travis Payne said the totally opposite thing of this statement in his interview with Raffles ...
That would explain a lot of things and I also heard that he really didn't want to do the fifty concerts. But do you know to who he said those things and where?? In L.A??
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Jackson reportedly told fans, "I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows. I only wanted to do 10, and take the tour around the world to other cities, not 50 in one place.
Travis Payne said the totally opposite thing of this statement in his interview with Raffles ...
That would explain a lot of things and I also heard that he really didn't want to do the fifty concerts. But do you know to who he said those things and where?? In L.A??
Travis said it in the interview with Raffles Van Exxel....but I don't know which part, I think it was part 4 or part 3
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Jackson reportedly told fans, "I don’t know how I’m going to do 50 shows. I’m really angry with them booking me up to do 50 shows. I only wanted to do 10, and take the tour around the world to other cities, not 50 in one place.
Travis Payne said the totally opposite thing of this statement in his interview with Raffles ...
That would explain a lot of things and I also heard that he really didn't want to do the fifty concerts. But do you know to who he said those things and where?? In L.A??
I think he told it his "Followers"...
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Did you know... Harvey was the journalist who uncovered Chandler's use of the drug to insert false memories into his son before trial. Harvey also discovered and reported Chandler's attempts to extort Michael prior to the allegations being leveled against him. Craig Harvey uncovered information on the Chandlers that made it an open and shut case for Michael's team. Harvey was the ONLY journalist at the time investigating the posibility of Michael's innocense rather then immediatly condemning him. Due to Harvey's diligence, a great deal of information was uncovered that we know today as truth, that pointed towards Michael being the actual victim of these charges. Michael owes Harvey a debt of gratitude. This might well be the reason Harvey always gets the scoop.
That is very interesting, Bec! I didn't know it either.
What's your source for that?
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Well that's certainly news to me...I would love to have a link to that information. Anytime Harvey from TMZ talks about the case, he makes it sound like he thinks MJ is guilty.
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
Yeah I read somewhere else that Michael bought TMZ just for the hoax in 2007.
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ummmmm Yeah Pretty Soon MJ is going to Own every Media outlet in the U.S.....look at all those connections!!!! Michael was pure Genius and knew exactly what he was doing every step!! i love You Mre Michael
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So far I found one link:
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:aq ... =firefox-a (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:aq2rOGnZFlgJ:mjjr.net/content/mjcase/Veritas_Project.doc+%22harvey+levin%22+%22veritas+project%22&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a)
"In 1994, journalist Mary Fischer did a five-month investigation into the allegations and also concluded that Jackson was the victim of extortion. Her article Was Michael Jackson Framed appeared in GQ Magazine and explores the case from its inception. Citing a KCBS-TV newsman (Harvey Levin) as her source, Fischer reported that Jordan Chandler did not make any allegations against Michael Jackson until he took a trip to his father's dental office where he was given a memory-altering drug. “In the presence of [Evan] Chandler and Mark Torbiner, a dental anesthesiologist, the boy was administered the controversial drug sodium amytal… and it was after this session that the boy first made his charges against Jackson.”20"
And this is Mary Fischer's full report "Was Michael Jackson Framed?"
http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html (http://www.buttonmonkey.com/misc/maryfischer.html)
Thanks Harvey!
I didn't find a connection between CBS and Prince AlWaleed.
But if you wish to look at their investment portfolio:
http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_home.asp (http://www.kingdom.com.sa/en/IntInvs_home.asp)
Kingdom Holding also hold 5,5% shares in NewsCorp, who own FOX.
Anything special about FOX, except, that they produced the counter statement to the Bashir interview "The footage you were never meant to see"?
Michael and the Prince bought 50% of the Landmark Entertainment Group - http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-18913181.html (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-18913181.html):
http://www.landmarkusa.com/landmark/Home.html (http://www.landmarkusa.com/landmark/Home.html) - they build amusement parks ;-)
Look at this concept for Michael's dream park! Wow!
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -pans.html (http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/11/d-exclusive-michael-jacksons-peter-pans.html)
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ummmmm Yeah Pretty Soon MJ is going to Own every Media outlet in the U.S.....look at all those connections!!!! Michael was pure Genius and knew exactly what he was doing every step!! i love You Mre Michael
That the Prince bought shares in these companies doesn't mean, that Michael owns them or also owns shares.
We don't even know, if they kept contact after they separated their businesses.
At least I haven't heard anything bad about Pince Al Waleed, and haven't heard that he sued Michael for whatever - which is a pretty good sign ;-)
That means, if they were real friends (they got to know each other at Disneyland and the Prince had many of the same interests) Prince AlWaleed might be the one who could elp Michael with all his connections.
But everything might also be the other way around.
Again - we have no proof for nothing.
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Did you know... Harvey was the journalist who uncovered Chandler's use of the drug to insert false memories into his son before trial. Harvey also discovered and reported Chandler's attempts to extort Michael prior to the allegations being leveled against him. Craig Harvey uncovered information on the Chandlers that made it an open and shut case for Michael's team. Harvey was the ONLY journalist at the time investigating the posibility of Michael's innocense rather then immediatly condemning him. Due to Harvey's diligence, a great deal of information was uncovered that we know today as truth, that pointed towards Michael being the actual victim of these charges. Michael owes Harvey a debt of gratitude. This might well be the reason Harvey always gets the scoop.
Just trying to understand your info here....as Craig Harvey works for the LA Coroner's office. Harvey Levin works for TMZ. Harvey was a lawyer, and he taught law between 1977-1996. He was a legal analyst and reporter before becoming a celebrity reporter, which later led him to TMZ, of course. But I've never heard of a connection between him and the Jordan Chandler case as you've mentioned. Are you talking about Craig Harvey, or Harvey Levin?
Sorry, I always do that. I'm talking about Harvey Levin the lawyer/reporter. But regardless, I'm not surprised you haven't heard of that connection, it's a little known fact and links to articles proving it have slowly but seemingly systematically been removed from the internet in recent weeks.
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ummmmm Yeah Pretty Soon MJ is going to Own every Media outlet in the U.S.....look at all those connections!!!! Michael was pure Genius and knew exactly what he was doing every step!! i love You Mre Michael
That would be great. But I don't think the powers that be would allow a black man to own all the media outlets in the US.
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
I saw it too at TNZ on my space they say nothing is released on TMZ without Michaels approval, they (TMZ) are in on the hoax from what I have read.
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Yes - I actually don't think MJ minded being called 'Jacko' - its a natural name to call someone named Jackson - I have friends with that name and they don't mind being called Jacko. Now Wacko Jacko is another thing altogether but being called Jacko is not too bad - its a term of endearment to some.
that's nit true , I heard him say on an interview once, my name is jackson not jacko, so he did not like being called JACKO.
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Well.. He don't like it, but people writes Jacko without knowing he dont like it, and they think it's okay since haters call him Jacko, and people that think they don't like him because other don't like him..
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On the old site, I thought I read that someone had researched TMZ and found out that it was owned by MJ's company. If anyone else can remember this to show I am not going senile?
I had started a thread on the older site about Mj and TMZ being connected somehow. Because of all the inside information and the fact that they are really the only ones who report about Mj and the family. Someone had done some research and from what I can remember TMZ is an affiliate of Sony. Don't quote me on this I might be wrong about the Sony thing. But they are connected somehow.
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Based on a Google search, it appears that TMZ (which stands for thirty-mile zone, the area around the studios) is owned by Time Warner, the world's fourth largest entertainment conglomerate, which ranks behind Walt Disney, News Corp (Murdoch) and Viacom. In the year 2000 Time Warner and Sony agreed to a strategic relationship rather to a merger. I suppose that we can surmise that there is a connection between Sony (MJ--50% owner of SONY ATV catalogue) and TMZ, albeit indirect. In older posts, it has been brought to the forum's attention that Radar Online (the company that "hoaxed" the famed August 28,2009 coroner video) is partially owned by Yusef Jackson, one of Jesse Jackson's sons and that the Sun is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Saudi Arabia's Prince al-Waleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al-Saud is one of the News Corp (Murdoch company) investors.
In 1996, Michael Jackson launched "Kingdom Entertainment" with Prince al-Waleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz al-Saud to provide family values.
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Yes - I actually don't think MJ minded being called 'Jacko' - its a natural name to call someone named Jackson - I have friends with that name and they don't mind being called Jacko. Now Wacko Jacko is another thing altogether but being called Jacko is not too bad - its a term of endearment to some.
actually in an interview he stated he did not like being called jacko...he said " i'm not jacko im JACKSON" soo yeah he didnt like jacko or wacko or wacko jacko....gosh Michael I am so sorry tabloids and media did this to you