Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Latest News => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => Qanon => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on August 12, 2018, 02:52:50 PM

Title: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 12, 2018, 02:52:50 PM
Okay, I am probably going to get slammed for this blog, but it has been on my mind for so long and I have to get this out there and see if there are others sharing this theory. I will go through certain things rather quick because if I don’t I’ll be typing for the next 2 weeks! So if anything is not clear, please don’t hesitate to ask for a more detailed explanation. Keep in mind that this is simply a theory. Recent developments have supported what I have researched in the past and so I am genuinely wondering if one has to do with the other. It’s sort of a theory in which I try to tie everything together. Michael’s life, ‘death’, the ‘how’ and the ‘why’. To me it explains a lot and to me this fits Michael’s character and heart and what he has always fought for.

I will start with the very beginning. Please bear with me and read everything in context before commenting. It’s all just my brain over flooding and it needs to get out to see if together, we can make some sense out of all this.

A short introduction: I believe there is a group of very powerful and rich people who are trying to get full control over the world population. Whenever I talk about ‘they’, I will probably talk about this group. Their goal is to create this one world government and enslave the population. I also believe they are very close to achieving their goal. Many people are already enslaved without even realizing it and people are willingly giving up more and more freedom each day.

Whoever has read my blogs will know that I believe Michael was a victim of Mind Control. Mind control is being used for all kinds of purposes, but the most blatant is the use of it in music and entertainment. Artists are being controlled (they use rape and torture to ‘program’ them) to get certain political messages out to their fans, to influence the opinions of the public and to control the masses. Mind control victims are being ‘programmed’, usually when they are kids, and some kind of natural deprogramming starts when they get to around 25-30 years of age. This is the reason you see many celebrities go ‘crazy’ around that age, and there is a reason that the ‘Club of 27’ exists.

Most of the time when a victim goes ‘off message’ they will get them back by sending out a warning (a drug overdose, a murdered family member, an accident, hair set on fire etc.) and then send them to ‘rehab’ or something which is more like a place they will be reprogrammed so they can continue their ‘work’. I have an interesting book on this topic for whoever is interested and strong enough to stomach the information, I will not go into detail here because the details are sick. I have been in a depression for months after I first learned about this.

Anyway, I believe that in the late 60’s there was a ‘need’ for ‘acceptable’ black artists. The world was changing and even though ‘they’ had control over the black population for a long time, they realized there was a shift in thoughts and that black people were more and more accepted. You know, we are not racist by nature. Humans are made racists in order to divide. Where it was once directed at whites to control black people, we should now be careful not to let it happen the other way around. Anyway, I am getting side tracked here. Late 60’s, they needed black artists to control the black community that got more and more vocal by then. They could try to silence the community (hence why MLK was killed) but eventually they needed to find other ways.

The Jacksons were 'discovered' and brought to fame pretty quickly, right? Not saying they weren’t talented, but they were sent into orbit before anyone could spell their names. They were able to produce some very prominent black artists during a very tense racial time in the US, the 'acceptable' face of black culture. In the 60’s/70's the timing was right to create a wave of black icons they could control. They look for talented or especially gifted ones, like Michael. His personality made for a perfect MK Ultra subject.

Many black entertainers are used to reinforce stereotypes, it keeps America divided. Michael busted OUT of all their 'roles' and he got bigger than they anticipated. Not just that, he started to fight against them. So now they had this black guy that had all this power, all this money and even worse: he wasn’t playing their game. Have you ever wondered why Michael is the only one of the siblings with all these illnesses? His vitiligo was not random, it was medically induced. They made him white.

This stuff is still happening all over the world. To those awake, the signs are everywhere.

Around 1988 we see a change in Michael. Not just his appearance, but his lyrics, his attitude, this ‘angry’ Michael suddenly appeared. He started to use lots of symbolism in his short films, in Moonwalker (turning point right there) and his music and album covers. I believe this is where he felt ready to break away from his handlers and fight it.

Moonwalker is an important movie. It shows a certain change in his life and career. A ‘start’ of something new. It has always intrigued me that Moonwalker begins the same as This Is It ends. As if there is something about the period in between.

I’ve always wanted to do a full blog on Moonwalker but for some reason I never got to it. Maybe I will do that next. In short we see an interesting order of events in Moonwalker. We see Man In The Mirror, him telling us he is going to make some changes. Then we get an overview of his career up to then. Then we see him having to run away from the fans and reporters, disguising himself to get away. After that we see the Leave me Alone video. There is a shit ton of symbolism in all of this but I am keeping this short and will address all that in a separate blog.

At the end of the Leave me Alone video you see the Michael chained under the circus/rollercoaster/entertainment industry break free.  Right after that the attacks on Michael start, we see him under fire by these soldier like people. We then see a flashback where it is explained why: Michael and Katy find out that there is this man called ‘Frankie Lideo’ who wants to drug all the children of the world. Since Frank Dileo makes an appearance himself in the end of the movie, I believe that Michael used his name to symbolize the entertainment industry, managers, handlers etc. and that Frank was fine with that.

After that we see Michael under fire again, all ammo is used on him yet Michael gets away. We see the logo of these people attacking him as being a spider. We see lots of spiders and spider webs in Moonwalker. In Monarch programming there is something called the spider web system or black widow spider system. This system is set up for blackmail and destruction via entrapment of people who are perceived as threats to the Illuminati. I believe this is his way of showing that they will attack him with all they can think of and try to blackmail and entrap him (how about accusing him of pedophilia, hmm?). Also notice that in This Is It, Michael himself comes out from under the black widow during Thriller/Threatened when the ‘dead come back to life’.  Tables are turning?

Next in Moonwalker is ‘Smooth Criminal’, Michael under attack again, gets away again with the help of the other guests at the club. Katy is being taken by the spider people and we see Michael going after them to save her. Yet he gets his ass kicked as Michael, so he turns himself into this robot and destroys the spider people and leaves. He returns as Michael though and brings the kids to the club again that looks completely different now and performs ‘come together’.

So far Moonwalker in short. To me it looks like Michael started something around 1988 of which he knew they would attack him greatly. Something to save the children from evil people that want to drug them. With the many MK Ultra programming symbols in the movie, I am positive he made it his mission to save those who are a victim of this horrible programming. Ever since 1988 Michael has been very vocal about saving the children, healing the world etc. We also have seen him being attacked in any way possible. Poison (read my blogs) that caused various diseases including vitiligo, ‘accidents’ with bridges in Munich, the numerous accusations and insinuations of Michael with young boys. How low to attack someone by accusing him of the very thing he fights to prevent. Michael leaving in the movie might be symbolic for Michael ‘dying’ and then come back when the world needs to ‘come together’.

This Is It, Moonwalker’s ‘mirror image’ is released 21 years (3 x 7) after Moonwalker. What is the link to Moonwalker, which is about saving the children? Is he saying that his death is ‘It’, that it has something to do with saving the children? He did wear 777 on his shirt, referring back to Moonwalker?
 
If you believe he is still alive, you will also have to believe that Michael has had help from people in high places. You don’t fake your death with all this hoopla around it without it. There is no way. There must be law enforcement involved. If WE can figure out that Michael is alive, THEY can as well. So he must be protected. He must have friends in high places. Friends he trusts and has known for a long time. This is where some of you will dismiss this theory. What I had in my head for a long time (at least I had the hope there was something like it) was something I saw in someone else's video years later. Please watch the video first before I go on, otherwise the rest will make no sense.

https://youtu.be/6cYZ8dUgPuU   

Now I know a lot of people hate Trump with a passion. I don’t. I have been following Trump since the beginning of the hoax. I have always believed Trump knew that Michael was alive. I also believe he and Michael were, and are, friends.

Now the biggest reason I wanted Trump to win the election was his vow to fight child sex trafficking, pedophilia etc. Many of you might not know that Trump has already put many pedophiles and traffickers behind bars and many are to follow. Trump really IS on a mission to save the children.

Now back to that video. I believe this plan was cooked up years ago. I think Kennedy tried, just listen to his speech. He was killed. Reagan tried, he was shot as well. Michael met Reagan by the way around that time. So did Trump.

Is Michael part of this ‘Plan to save the world’? Think about it, this shit is going to hit the fan, sooner rather than later. More and more is coming out. The media is in panic mode, making people think it’s some ‘right wing conspiracy’ just like they did with pizza gate. It’s all connected. This rabbit hole is so incredibly deep. Did Michael fake his death and go into some sort of witness protection program until this stuff finally comes to light?
Many of us, including me, thought Michael would return in 2013. I actually thought end of October, 2013. Michael talked about ‘4 years to get it right’ in This Is It. October 2013 would have been 25 years after Moonwalker as well. I think that was the original plan but he didn’t. Trump was supposed to run for President in 2012. That also didn’t happen, something must have fucked up the plan. Isn’t it strange new allegations of child molestation addressed at Michael popped up that year? What is the use of accusing a dead guy? There is none. That there is evidence that THEY know he’s alive. They probably also suspect what he is part of.

Now again, this is my theory and I’d like to discuss this here on the forum to see where it will lead and what we can figure out. I am not saying that this mission is real. I hope it is, I see signs that it is and I believe that if there is a plan to destroy the world, there has to be a plan to prevent that. There are still people in power who are good, everyone can’t be evil. And if there are, then why wouldn’t they do something about the state the world is in right now? And I am not saying Michael is a part of it either. I hope he is, I see signs he is and I believe he would ‘die’ for the cause. Michael’s name has been dropped a few times in relation to Q as well. And as much as I love Trump, I cannot see him address the world and have people actually listen to what he has to say, too many can’t see through the media lies and hate him too much. I do see them listening to what Michael has to say though…


When I went through old chats I had back in early 2010, this part popped up:

[ME]: what is that Q-sign? (can't remember the full sign now)
[PERSON I WAS CHATTING WITH]: don't worry.. focus on […] for now

So who is Q? “Wait until you find out who has been talking to you here. You will know who I am when you hear my voice.” (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/88fxuw/michael_flynn_is_q/dwkg44v/)

Is ‘Q’ a Star Trek fan? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)

Many think Q is some military guy, who would recognize some military guy’s voice? Some people believe it’s Trump himself. Although I do think Trump’s voice is recognizable, I don’t see why Trump would speak in code to himself, like he seems to be doing with Trump and vice versa. So who would be recognized by everyone by his voice?

Not saying Michael is Q, I am simply sharing thoughts. Scroll back up to that video about the plan to save the world and check the date it was posted.

And check the date of Q’s first post: https://qanonposts.com/

The calm before the storm…?


Links of use:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon
https://www.makingmichael.co.uk/single-post/2016/11/11/Donald-Trump-and-Michael-Jackson-The-full-story-behind-a-mysterious-friendship
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/255294883680632833
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1163247/Trump-Bill-Clintons-ties-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein.html
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/19/trump-says-trafficking-has-never-been-worse-history-world/533887002/
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/11/trump-signs-sex-trafficking-act.cnn
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/03/14/trump-taps-former-reagan-administration-member-larry-kudlow-to-replace-gary-cohn/amp
https://twitter.com/Patriot_126/status/992957754389204992
https://twitter.com/55true4u/status/1022971548695650304

https://youtu.be/Y3L13CR0EuM
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Retro on August 12, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
New World Order? Ok, I can agree, but...
Illuminati? Bullshit!  :Pulling_hair: :o
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Whoever has read my blogs will know that I believe Michael was a victim of Mind Control. Mind control is being used for all kinds of purposes, but the most blatant is the use of it in music and entertainment. Artists are being controlled (they use rape and torture to ‘program’ them) to get certain political messages out to their fans, to influence the opinions of the public and to control the masses. Mind control victims are being ‘programmed’, usually when they are kids, and some kind of natural deprogramming starts when they get to around 25-30 years of age. This is the reason you see many celebrities go ‘crazy’ around that age, and there is a reason that the ‘Club of 27’ exists.
Just bulshit. I can't read any more... :(
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 12, 2018, 04:42:25 PM
New World Order? Ok, I can agree, but...
Illuminati? Bullshit!  :Pulling_hair: :o
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Whoever has read my blogs will know that I believe Michael was a victim of Mind Control. Mind control is being used for all kinds of purposes, but the most blatant is the use of it in music and entertainment. Artists are being controlled (they use rape and torture to ‘program’ them) to get certain political messages out to their fans, to influence the opinions of the public and to control the masses. Mind control victims are being ‘programmed’, usually when they are kids, and some kind of natural deprogramming starts when they get to around 25-30 years of age. This is the reason you see many celebrities go ‘crazy’ around that age, and there is a reason that the ‘Club of 27’ exists.
Just bulshit. I can't read any more... :(

Maybe care to share your arguments as to why it's bull shit? Or is it just too scary for you?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Starchild on August 12, 2018, 05:23:00 PM
Great post, Souza. The Q video provides a good summary.

New World Order (NWO) conspiracy theories. There are so many sources involved with the subject, trying to sound the alarm (e.g., the Thrive: What on Earth Will it Take? documentary, Jesse Ventura and the Bilderberg group, and so on), but it all comes from alternative news sources. A lot of information can be found on YouTube (YT). Several years ago, I watched a YT documentary on the illuminati and the music industry—I did not want to believe it, but the evidence was so detailed, there was no denying the truth, and it thus just blew my mind. I used to keep up with it all, but it got too depressing.  :icon_e_sad:

I, too, think Trump is one of the good guys, on the side of the masses. I believe it was during the presidential debates, he said, “I don’t want to be president of the world, I want to be president of the United States.” Years ago, before Trump ever started talking about running for president, I read several books about him (a couple books by him and a couple of biographies), and I was impressed with his thinking. However, the mainstream media (MSM) has given him a bad rap from the point he announced his intent to run for president. To hear it from the MSM, everything the guy thinks and does is bad, bad, bad . . . and so again, only alternative news sources provide balanced reporting.

Regarding the media who support/report false narratives, it stands to reason that most are merely puppets, being told to either report stories from a designated perspective or risk job loss, and/or they hear so much of the fake narrative that they, like the masses, eventually buy into it as truth. 

Now, how much of this, if any, has to do with Michael Jackson? I don’t know, but it is an interesting avenue to explore.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Retro on August 12, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
I believe in the new world order, but I don't believe in illuminati.
I can't prove that they (Illuminati) don't exist, I can't prove that they exist. But the claim that all celebrities have brainwashed is ridiculous. It's like believing in reptilians. Do you believe in reptilian? If they (Illuminati) exist (But they don't exist, it's ridiculous), I'm sure MJ is dead. But ... he's alive, right?  ;D
The US government is responsible for the MK Ultra, not Illuminati.
Being famous is difficult. You can't be famous and sober at the same time. That's why many celebs take drugs.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on August 12, 2018, 08:37:46 PM
Ohh YES!! This is the kind of talk I needed !! :icon_bounce:

I've been "haunted" by this possible perspective (MJ-Trump-Good Camp people-Plan to Stop the Bad Camp & Heal the World) for some time me too...
It's by following Trump and listening to his speeches that the ideas came to me: you know the kind of those that start with "What IF??" and then it sounds so crazy that at first you dismiss it yourself before some time passes and another thing happens or is said and then you go again:" What IF...??"

I've watched some of Trump's episodes "The Apprentice" on a Romanian TV channel (Antena 3), but before 2009.... and what I liked and stuck with me through the years was his way of analyzing people in that Board Room at the end of each episode.... and while I thought he was looking after those who scored more points at the task or made more money or whatever... I noticed he also judged them based on their honesty, loyalty, solid principles like that... I loved that...and then the show was at some point interrupted...
I did not know at that time about the friendship between Trump and Michael...I only learned about it later on, after 2009.

And then in 2015-2016 I "got in touch" with Trump news again loll since all the Media exploded because of his campaign, so I began to watch his electoral debates and I thought to myself WOW ! This is way better than the Apprentice! LMAO :icon_lol: you know I watched them as some Fun Show like back in the day, but then things started to look more & more serious and I realized he really was into it for more than just getting popularity or becoming President!
He always says things in his speeches that resonate A LOT with everything Michael stood for...

It's late here, but I will definitely come back to this thread , I have other things to comment and share....
Thank you Souza for bringing this topic out in the Open, even though as you said, I expect many people to jump on us... if only they could leave aside the hatred for Trump a bit, just listen to the man, listen to his 1hour speeches and notice his actions, it's all in accordance to what he says/promises and totally opposite to what the Media reports of him! <== Doesn't this story sound familiar??? Isn't this exactly what they did to Michael !!??
Don't you guys love how Trump wipes the floor with the Media??  :woohoo2: I've always wanted to see an important figure fight them like that , openly, discredit them and ridicule them!! This is what they deserve!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on August 13, 2018, 01:52:20 AM
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Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: jadz29858 on August 13, 2018, 04:02:41 AM
Sounds interesting always thought there was more to this then we know! Will the rabbit hole get bigger or smaller!??
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2018, 04:56:56 AM
LLOVEMMGHLYOUMMRSMMYOUMSUNN><8,,💕💕💕

 :WTF:
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on August 18, 2018, 04:09:45 PM
Sounds interesting always thought there was more to this then we know! Will the rabbit hole get bigger or smaller!??
Yay Jadz, glad to see you here sis' ! :bearhug:
I think this labyrinth is way longer and more twisted than we ever thought!
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1. Speaking of the Good Guys Camp against the Bad Guys camp, one can easily recognize them by how they talk about GOD! There's no mistake/confusion here! That is how we know who fights in which camp! ;)
Trump: 'In America we don't worship government, we worship God' [youtube] https://youtu.be/FWTQgl4VSEY [/youtube]

2. Watch Donald Trump Expose The Illuminati (Illuminati Exposed) https://youtu.be/vRau4b43hnE

3. Interestingly enough, this RARE (full) footage was leaked 7 months after his Inauguration as President!
"RARE 1990 THROWBACK: Michael Jackson & Donald Trump Visit Ryan White's HOUSE!" -- [youtube] https://youtu.be/fxtb03jZJKE [/youtube]
(In 1990 Donald Trump and Michael Jackson, using Trump's plane, fly to Indianapolis then drive to Cicero Indiana (Hamilton County) to extend condolences to the family after the death of Ryan White.)
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on August 19, 2018, 02:05:42 PM
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Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 20, 2018, 06:31:21 AM
ILOVEUMRMMYOUMMJEWELER,,

You used to be able to type whole sentences skyways, what the F is your problem?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 20, 2018, 06:37:41 AM
So what is this tweet about from the video maker?

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/08/20/joemtweetmj.jpg)

https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1030941130647588864
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on August 20, 2018, 05:16:32 PM
And the username had to be Joe M :-*
And the hastag contains the word Storm, just like the title of this thread
And the message is about exposing paedophiles.

hummm....  :suspect:
oh well..... I'm sure it's just a coincidence! :icon_lol:

 :affraid: :affraid:


Where did you find that twit, Souza?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 20, 2018, 05:23:04 PM
And the username had to be Joe M :-*
And the hastag contains the word Storm, just like the title of this thread
And the message is about exposing paedophiles.

hummm....  :suspect:
oh well..... I'm sure it's just a coincidence! :icon_lol:

 :affraid: :affraid:


Where did you find that twit, Souza?

Someone sent me a message on Facebook asking if I had seen that tweet...
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 22, 2018, 02:16:54 AM
https://youtu.be/_iwyrcr9NOk
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: trublu on August 22, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
Excellent video Souza. This has certainly given me a lot to think about. I can accept that Trump and Michael were friends and your theory makes sense. Why though do you think Michael added Trumps name at the end of "Money" along with people like Rokerfeller, Getty etc? That has never made sense to me. Also, Paris seems to dislike Trump.  I am only asking because I want to believe in this theory but these questions bother me.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: trublu on August 22, 2018, 05:47:55 PM
Here is what I'm referring to

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnQAdS0SlE8
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 23, 2018, 03:32:28 AM
Excellent video Souza. This has certainly given me a lot to think about. I can accept that Trump and Michael were friends and your theory makes sense. Why though do you think Michael added Trumps name at the end of "Money" along with people like Rokerfeller, Getty etc? That has never made sense to me. Also, Paris seems to dislike Trump.  I am only asking because I want to believe in this theory but these questions bother me.
As for Paris, children don't have to share the same political views as their parents. Paris grew up in a very liberal area and is more likely to have the same views as her friends. She is still very young. My political views didn't set until I was around 30-ish. She did tone down on Trump, I remember seeing a video where she said he should be accepted as the president, no clue where to find that. She might not know the whole story either for her own protection.

As for Money, I am not sure. It's written in the early 90's, when they were friends. I have never heard of a falling out between the two and Trump is always very nice and positive about Michael. When I see what other people think about his inclusion I see some are confused too and are not sure what the names all mean. Too much to speculate about so I go with what is known. Some quotes from Trump:

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"He was an amazing guy, but beyond all else, he was the greatest entertainer I've ever known. He had magic. He was a genius. He was also a really good person, and when you got to know him, you realized how smart he was. He was brilliant. Now, Michael wasn't the same Michael for the last 10 years. He was not well. He had a lot of problems, a lot of difficulties... but he's not going to be remembered for the last 10 years; he's going to be remembered for the first 35 years. Michael in his prime - there's never been anybody like him."

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"Michael would spend a lot of time with my kids," Trump said. "Michael would come, play with the kids. He just loved children. He was not a child molester and I am certain of that. He’d play with my son Eric and my son Donald and he’d just play with them forever."
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on August 23, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
 :bowdown:
New World Order? Ok, I can agree, but...
Illuminati? Bullshit!  :Pulling_hair: :o
Just bulshit. I can't read any more... :(
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Maybe care to share your arguments as to why it's bull shit? Or is it just too scary for you?


Souza, as you said, many people are already enslaved without realising it.

Btw, I too concur with this theory and have for a long time now with a few additions to your theory related to Michaels faith and bible prophecy. Yes, the elites are close to achieving what they want, I believe for a time they will appear to be successful at their goal and many will even buy into the idea that it's for the good of mankind and that a NWO will bring world wide peace. That's how they will dupe people into more perhaps even complete control over them. The elites eventually will turn against Godly people and try to abolish religion which they will spout 'divides people' 
Ones loyal to God will fight for their right to serve him and they will be met with aggression from this one world power (most likely to be fronted by the UN, a true wolf in sheeps clothing) At the point when God fearing ones are honed in on by evil rule, God will intervene and crush the serpant in the head and vindicate all those on his side.

I honestly believe Michael was trying to open up people eyes for the past 3 decades regarding the evils planned, after he had his own first hand experiences of how depraved and satanic these entities are and what they are capable of and what they plan to do.


Hey retro? You believe in NWO but not illuminati. So who is behind NWO? They have many 'brotherhoods' at their disposal to round up, dumbify and control the masses, with illuminati only being only one of their tools, which branches out into commerce, music, Hollywood, big pharma etc. (This world is full of satanic stink in every area you can think of, with their prime tools being commerce, religion, media and the entertainment industry)

Subscribe to David Icke on YT for a thorough explanation as well as read revelation in the bible and your eyes will be opened.

Retro, re: reptilians, that's just another name or a colloquialism for someone demonically possessed or someone who has demonic DNA. Hardly an outlandish theory. It's all in the bible and has been common knowledge for over 5000 years!

And yes they (reptilians or known as otherwise) rule the world, they are at the top of the apex trying to control the masses, with the Illuminati being one of their prime tools. Michael tried so hard for people to see this. Most of his fans even missed it.

1 John 5:19 "We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one"

The world in under Satanic control with the illuminati being only one of their strategies.

Those who sell their soul and work for those in charge who sit under (on the apex) and work for demonic entities, are often rewarded with super beyond normal abilities. Many many entertainers currently testify to this fact. Hence why many of them in interviews say they sold their soul, often followed by a public initiation ritual and then followed by massive success. They are given the success because they are a unique tool with the ability to attract young minds and mould them into NWO thinking with the use of symbolism in their music/advertising etc.
This is what Michael knows, saw, was part of, escaped and dedicated much of his career to exposing.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 26, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
Aussie you're baaaaaackkkkkkk!!!!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: curls on August 27, 2018, 01:29:43 PM
The radio here in the UK today has been playing '60 at 60' (60 top MJ songs in the week of his 60th birthday) and it brought me back here to see what's been going on. Someone asked me how long MJ has been dead, and I said 9 years, except he isn't, to which I got the customary eye rolling!!  So hello again, old friends!

Souza, I get what you and the video are saying - you can see it everywhere.  If MJ is involved in the way you theorise, then I hope I live to see it proved. Meanwhile, Trump is doing a great job ...
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 28, 2018, 09:46:37 AM
The radio here in the UK today has been playing '60 at 60' (60 top MJ songs in the week of his 60th birthday) and it brought me back here to see what's been going on. Someone asked me how long MJ has been dead, and I said 9 years, except he isn't, to which I got the customary eye rolling!!  So hello again, old friends!

Souza, I get what you and the video are saying - you can see it everywhere.  If MJ is involved in the way you theorise, then I hope I live to see it proved. Meanwhile, Trump is doing a great job ...

And curls back!! Awesome to see you all back on here!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on September 09, 2018, 04:20:56 PM
Hi Souza  youve been busy, I think your on the right track with Donald Trump :) watched alot of the videos youve posted above, think we are on the same page.  Glad to see so many people back.  Its an interesting time.!  L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 09, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
Hi Souza  youve been busy, I think your on the right track with Donald Trump :) watched alot of the videos youve posted above, think we are on the same page.  Glad to see so many people back.  Its an interesting time.!  L.O.V.E.

Welcome back!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on September 22, 2018, 02:53:42 PM
https://youtu.be/SdC6rgTWjbU is Mr. Presidemt in tune with us or manipulative?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on September 22, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
Im sorry double 📪} :Balloon:
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 22, 2018, 09:49:51 PM
https://youtu.be/SdC6rgTWjbU
is Mr. Presidemt in tune with us or manipulative?

Hi5 Mr. Prez! When did he say that? LOL!  :Laughing:
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 22, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
It's from October last year apparently.

Quote
"Who is Q?

On 28 October, someone calling themselves Q began posting a series of cryptic messages in the 4chan internet forum titled “Calm Before the Storm” - “assumedly in reference to that creepy Trump quote from early October”, says New York Magazine."

That creepy quote was this:

https://youtu.be/HH0AvaG3SqQ

I did not know about that forum being named that and I never saw that video or heard that quote, I  :Poo: you not! Interesting!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on September 23, 2018, 05:18:31 PM
Huhhh LastOctober amd stll calm.....
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 23, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
Huhhh LastOctober amd stll calm.....

Patience is a virtue...
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on October 09, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
As I was saying earlier in this thread, I will come back here with strange things/connections that I found between MJ & Donald Trump these past years…
One of them is the Number 7 !!

We all know that Number 7 played a major role in Michael’s life & career both before 2009, but mostly AFTER! It served as a constant clue/sign to the planning of this hoax! It’s all around the Number 7!
I guess you all remember that red shirt he wore during This Is It Rehearsals with the TRIPLE 777 imprinted on it?
(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/Red777Shirt.th.jpg)

Well, you can imagine how BIG my surprise was when I first noticed how Number 7 seems to show up in relation to Donald Trump as well!!?? I was like WTF is going on here?? HOW Come!??
Here below, I’ll post a few No. 7 & MJ montages, just like a reminder… and then the Connections I found with No. 7 & Donald Trump! It’s crazy!

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/ZOx0sXrm2deb.md.jpg)
(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/TS-MJ-HOAXNumerology.md.jpg)
(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/009.md.jpg)

"THE TRUMP INAUGURATION PROPHECY! - The numbers may have indicated it in advance!" -- https://youtu.be/DY4qcwjJuak

Via @Scott Clarke's Youtube channel (the one who posted the video from above ^^), on Nov. 2nd, 2016 (few days BEFORE Trump got elected !!):
 "Donald Trump will be 70 years, 7 months & 7 days old precisely on Presidential Inauguration Day 2017 in the Hebrew year 5777. Coincidence? That’s pretty hard to have happen by coincidence. In the Bible the number 7 means perfection and completion. Prophetic? You better believe it! More Below! Trump: the 777 Prophecy. BEST 3 MINUTE TRUMP PROPHECY (Trump Inauguration) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJKwlQkq6o

Michael Snyder’s original article: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/if-donald-trump-wins-he-will-be-70-years-7-months-and-7-days-old-on-his-first-full-day-in-office "

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/trump003.md.jpg)

How can this be? And it's not just ONE 7 , it's THREE SEVENs !! WTF is going on here? How can anyone plan this beforehand??
Also notice the Word Play with Trump's name and the Vice-President's name: Mike PENCE!
On all the electoral posts they wrote their names like this: Trump - Pence
If you pronounce the 2 names quickly, the pronunciation sounds VERY much like TRUMPETS
TRUMPETS 777 ??

VIDEO =>> "Trump = 777? " -- https://youtu.be/JyNIAhhYJQc  –

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/trump004.md.jpg)

Long live the SEVENs
Michael in South Korea in 1996
Trump called North Korea in 1999,
And for nearly 20 years the world ignored the threat - VIDEO -->> https://youtu.be/G7POusDdsfE

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/TRUMP005a.md.jpg)

How far go the coincidences of The Lovely & Mysterious no. 7
- Michael Jackson in South Korea - Seoul 1996 - VIDEO -->>  https://youtu.be/FcRyI_KvU6A
- Trump's speech to South Korea's parliament (on November 7th ) - VIDEO ->> https://youtu.be/y0xEoKRHRi4

(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/Trump012.md.jpg)

1. Listen to what is being said in this video made by Trump's staff and you will recognize many of Michael's dreams for a better world, also the words sound like the purpose exposed in the Q -movement videos !!

Via Donald Trump's Facebook: "This is the video, “A Story of Opportunity,” that I shared with Kim Jong-un at the Singapore Summit."
WATCH VIDEO here --> https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10161123696575725?__xts__[0]=68.ARAR_-_eFk8C_R5klWAXuxyz6_s7hj1FWnXu4UdvWW-4YHJL5frjGCLYAu1Y3Z5o4yAIAOFNbjCqt4FHUkMMjUkXQQgUqWeqJuh5yNxzCge95FFGK_HUzpkQrocb93fU-Yy2XZWM1IVul3-TCCYul_VkQr2Dv_Fcu_g9PYwCEYvuysZuk0a0JeI&__tn__=-R

2. Watch this Earth Song video from This Is It (2009) , at the second 00:29 , Michael says "I love the Light" and then they show the picture in this screen shot from below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfUvKCIwwQ

What if – Earth Song SUN – TRUMP Korea -
(https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/gallery/images/2018/10/09/TRUMP007.md.jpg)

There are many other occurrences of Number 7 in relation to Trump: if you listen carefully to all his speeches, he talks about 7-figure a LOT! many of the public events that he attends to take place on the 7th ! and many other things like that... just pay attention and you'll notice the SEVENs everywhere around Trump.

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 09, 2018, 04:24:19 PM
Will read that all later but have to say I LOVE Trey Smith. I had to get used to him because he seems to be all over the place sometimes, but he has very good videos!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on October 10, 2018, 08:08:10 AM
ILOVEUMRMMYOUMMJEWELER😍😍😍😍💕💕💕💕💕
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 10, 2018, 08:13:38 AM
ILOVEUMRMMYOUMMJEWELER😍😍😍😍💕💕💕💕💕

You really should explain what that means.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on October 11, 2018, 05:37:54 PM
As I was saying earlier in this thread, I will come back here with strange things/connections that I found between MJ & Donald Trump these past years…
One of them is the Number 7 !!
[ .............
.............
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There are many other occurrences of Number 7 in relation to Trump: if you listen carefully to all his speeches, he talks about 7-figure a LOT! many of the public events that he attends to take place on the 7th ! and many other things like that... just pay attention and you'll notice the SEVENs everywhere around Trump.

I posted the above only 2 days ago ... there are many other interesting events that happen at certain dates....

 For example today:
11 October 2018
11 . 10 . 2018
1+1+1+2+1+8 = 14 [77]

What happened today [77] ?

"President Trump Signs Music Modernization Act...Kanye Just Misses It" -- https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=24971.msg454410#msg454410

 President Trump EXPLOSIVE Speech CHANGES the Music Industry FOREVER https://youtu.be/S1km0W8y9jU

Listen the above video towards minute 01:00, President Trump says:
"They've been waiting for this for a LOONG time, they've been working on this for years and years and years and I guess certain... Entertainers have been taken advantage of... but No longer! Because of Trump! Can you beLIEve that?"

Don't those words sound familiar to you?
Didn't Michael fought (years and years and years back) for Musicians rights because he said "they were being taken advantage of"? and they died poor because of the sharks from the Music Industry who suck all the wealth from them like vampires?

Isn't this another interesting MJ-Trump-Coincidence??

 Michael Jackson exposing the music industry
 https://youtu.be/e2d_dXm6i5M

Listen the beginning of the above video, where Michael says (very similar to what Trump said today!):
"The tradition of great Performers from Sammy Davis Jr., James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelley... the story is usually the same you know: these artists worked really hard at their craft, but the story ends the same, they usually are broken, torn and usually just sad...the story is very sad at the end... because the companies take advantage of them, they really do and ..." (and then he talks about Sony and how Sony tried to do the same thing to him, but he managed "to out-think them").

And again, similar stuff he said in this other speech about the Greedy and racist Music Industry !!

Michael Jackson talks about how the music industry is racist.
 https://youtu.be/B4cqxJU4KcE

It looks like all Michael's dreams about making a better world start taking some form and shape...
OMG! I want so much for this to be true! :Heart:
I just hope it's not just wishful thinking...

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on October 14, 2018, 06:08:46 PM
I made these montages in 2017 and posted them on Facebook.... I thought that there were some intriguing things between the way the White House was decorated  with certain elements seen in the mini cartoon "Michael Jackson's Halloween" released earlier that year.

Since Halloween approaches now, I thought I'd share them here as well.

1. The SPIDERS - The White House Halloween Decoration seemed taken from MJ's Halloween cartoon-the sequence with the SPIDERS dance!  :Big-Grin:

(https://preview.ibb.co/f5kf80/HALLOWEEN-003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jgodvf)

You can hear Michael's song "Thriller" playing in the video below, starting from minute 18:50

WATCH: President Trump Holds HALLOWEEN at The White House 10/30/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7iYZcLtPcw

2. The Black & White strands (reminding of Michael's song "Black or White")

(https://preview.ibb.co/mTgZ1L/HALLOWEEN-002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j9oE1L)

3. The Presidents

(https://preview.ibb.co/gk2MWL/HALLOWEEN-004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i4wgWL)

4. The BIRDS... on the White House were displayed exactly as the birds displayed on MJ's new "Scream" album POSTER loll

(https://preview.ibb.co/khwn5f/HALLOWEEN-005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mz5QrL)

________________________________________

Unrelated to the above pics, another 7 .... today on Trump's twitter

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1051558072433463297

It had to be at  7 :Big-Grin: :Heart:
(https://preview.ibb.co/gsKwy0/Trump-014.jpg) (https://ibb.co/eSRLQf)

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on November 10, 2018, 07:11:28 PM
OMG !!

"Trump awards top civilian honour to Elvis Presley' --    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/national/17215626.trump-awards-top-civilian-honour-to-elvis-presley/?ref=twtrec

And it had to be no. 7   (AGAIN !!) and   ELVIS   among them !!   :Love:

I'm dead!  :Silly: :Heart:
___________________
"Trump says 7 to receive Presidential Medal of Freedom"

Quote
https://www.apnews.com/6c7703e73e5f444db1b98fab5c3688be
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has announced his first recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom and they include the wife of a major Republican Party donor, the longest-serving Republican senator in U.S. history, Elvis Presley  and Babe Ruth.

Trump will also posthumously recognize the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

Medals are going to Miriam Adelson, a doctor and wife of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, a Republican donor; Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, who is retiring after more than 41 years in the U.S. Senate; former Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach and Alan Page, who began a legal career after leaving the NFL.

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the nation’s highest honor for a civilian.

Really! like why so many SEVENs??...and I mentioned in this thread just those occurrences that I started capturing when I saw how often they repeated!

I mean let's  just say there is no hoax and Michael really died.
What has Trump got to do with no. 7 then?

  "Elvis Presley Among Trump’s Selections for Presidential Medal of Freedom"
 https://variety.com/2018/politics/news/elvis-presley-presidential-medal-of-freedom-trump-1203025376/#utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=social_bar&utm_content=bottom&utm_id=1203025376

(https://preview.ibb.co/bJPedV/Trump-020.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jmvVkA)
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on November 10, 2018, 08:17:37 PM
[ .............
.............
.............]
There are many other occurrences of Number 7 in relation to Trump: if you listen carefully to all his speeches, he talks about 7-figure a LOT! many of the public events that he attends to take place on the 7th ! and many other things like that... just pay attention and you'll notice the SEVENs everywhere around Trump.

I posted the above only 2 days ago ... there are many other interesting events that happen at certain dates....

 For example today:
11 October 2018
11 . 10 . 2018
1+1+1+2+1+8 = 14 [77]

What happened today [77] ?

"President Trump Signs Music Modernization Act...Kanye Just Misses It" -- https://community.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/index.php?topic=24971.msg454410#msg454411

Another example today:

Look at the 2 dates! 11.10 versus 10.11 !!

-- https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/10/11/president-trump-signs-music-modernization-act-introducing-landmark-copyright-reform/#1124d24036a8

-- https://variety.com/2018/politics/news/elvis-presley-presidential-medal-of-freedom-trump-1203025376/

(https://preview.ibb.co/eBwWsq/Trump-021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fpWLkA)

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: trublu on November 11, 2018, 11:30:10 AM
Where's Michael's award?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on November 11, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
Good question, @trublu

Michael very well deserved such an award, too. Probably more than others.... and I am sure that those 7 Nominees are just very few of those who deserve this Medal Award....

Who knows why things are like that.... All I know is that I learned these past years that everything  is done for a reason....

Who knows... maybe  something else is in store for Michael ...sooner or later....

Even though 9 years have passed without a conclusion, without an ending/closure....without something concrete.... I still feel there's more to come....we'll see...
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on November 24, 2018, 02:23:47 PM
16 [7] November 2018

- Elvis Presley receives the Presidential Medal of Freedom

from President Donald Trump ❤️

https://youtu.be/banL1IX0_ug

Opinion | Trump honoring Elvis? It’s about time.
https://wapo.st/2r0Tc97?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.a9d7f7c94ad9

Upper Left corner: probably 2 of the most handsome American soldiers ever  :Heart:
(https://i.ibb.co/cFCnjd0/Trump-022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7WRmqFP)
_____________________________________
______________________________________

I don't know how many of you have seen this hoax video from 2011, but I think it fits well in here, like an old piece of the puzzle...

Michael Jackson Death Hoax - LaToya's C.Apprentice slip up &connections https://youtu.be/iShwgv9Rw4I
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on November 27, 2018, 12:50:38 PM
Connections? Coincidences? Hazard?
________
Source links:

- http://ahwd.tv/Z1ZTuc#b80iMbIuGwsEWksg.02

- https://nyti.ms/2KbfVr1

- https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009916650622251009

(https://i.ibb.co/YTR58NH/Trump-023.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cs1jvwR)
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on December 02, 2018, 11:01:14 AM

REMEMBER REMEMBER THE5OFDECEMBER 👍👊✌⚡⚡😇😇


Washington, DC (WCMH) - President Trump has issued a proclamation for the closing of executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government on December 5, 2018, in honor of George H.W. Bush.

The proclamation reads:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1.  All executive departments and agencies of the Federal Government shall be closed on December 5, 2018, as a mark of respect for George Herbert Walker Bush, the forty-first President of the United States.

Sec. 2.  The heads of executive departments and agencies may determine that certain offices and installations of their organizations, or parts thereof, must remain open and that certain employees must report for duty on December 5, 2018, for reasons of national security, defense, or other public need.

Sec. 3.  December 5, 2018, shall be considered as falling within the scope of Executive Order 11582 of February 11, 1971, and of 5 U.S.C. 5546 and 6103(b) and other similar statutes insofar as they relate to the pay and leave of employees of the United States.

Sec. 4.  The Director of the Office of Personnel Management shall take such actions as may be necessary to implement this order.

Sec. 5.  General Provisions.  (a)  This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(b)  Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i)   the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii)  the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(c)  This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

THE WHITE HOUSE,

December 1, 2018.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: trublu on December 02, 2018, 11:17:15 AM
I thought, according to Q anon that Bush is one of the baddies? So what exactly is happening on December 5th other than Trump choosing to a day to honour him?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Carrie on December 02, 2018, 07:19:58 PM
Anyone think JFK Jr. is Q?

That to me would be utterly amazing! People are speculating he hoaxed his death and that he can be Q...

He did name his magazine "George."

Anyway, I guess we will see what happens on the 5th of December.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 03, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Yes I think it could be JFK Jr. Or that Joe M. on Twitter is JFK Jr. Their voices are VERY similar.

@trublu: I think this was planned and is a good thing. All those mofu's will be gathered in the same spot, only those asked will be at the DOJ and FBI. Not sure what the plan is but sounds like there is one.

https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1067076628050669568
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: trublu on December 03, 2018, 04:27:34 PM
I hope so Souza. I guess we'll see in time.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 03, 2018, 07:25:34 PM
Yes, we have to wait and see!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: Carrie on December 06, 2018, 03:02:40 PM
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."

https://quodverum.com/2018/12/337/trump-s-master-spooks.html
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: mjj4ever777 on January 03, 2019, 04:36:56 PM
Anyone think JFK Jr. is Q?

That to me would be utterly amazing! People are speculating he hoaxed his death and that he can be Q...

He did name his magazine "George."




Reply

Yes, I believe Q could be JFK Jr!
I believe it is his voice narrating The Calm Before The Sto!
So much info speculating that he hoaxed his death also and has made public appearances at Trump rallies as Vincent Fusca, another ” Hatman “ like MJ disguises!

MJ, JFK Trump, all connected!
This is BIG... This Is IT!

I love and miss you MJFAM!
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2019, 03:56:20 AM
I agree, it's all connected. Has to be. What better reason to fake your death than this?
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: use_your_illusion on January 13, 2019, 02:46:22 AM
If Trump is good,  why is he still here? It's hard to get elected and stay there if you're there to do good i.e JFK. And how could MJ escape if they are everywhere and have most people under control? He needed to know the right powerful people in order to pull it off, that might prove to be pretty difficult.

That video does sound like JFK Jr, the inflection of the voice.

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 13, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
If Trump is good,  why is he still here?

God.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 17, 2019, 07:40:45 AM
I'd like to blow some life back into this discussion. I'll post the other Qanon related videos I uploaded. Would love to hear other people's thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn1QGauGTFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mz04w7HQWc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QnFe70DXVQ

Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: skyways on July 17, 2019, 11:16:17 PM
✌ ✌"
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on July 19, 2019, 09:08:41 PM
Souza, your videos are amazing and full of interesting information!
________

Just wanted to add this here....

Interesting UNIFORMS!
Interesting TIMING !

-- https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1125490561916506113
-- https://twitter.com/michaeljackson/status/1126162538054475777

(https://i.ibb.co/VBCPLf3/001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C09TwRW)
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: SimPattyK on July 19, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
Both "Gullivers" crucified by the Media !

-- https://www.facebook.com/QARMY1/photos/a.497095907459791/564850354017679/?type=3&theater

-- http://fr.fanpop.com/clubs/michael-jackson/images/30493649/title/comic-book-photo

(https://i.ibb.co/Bj8xyVy/004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5vqyrWr)
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: White Hat on July 20, 2019, 04:04:12 PM
These guys remind me of Anonymous. Hence "ANON " They're referencing anonymous I believe.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: GingerSnap on July 23, 2019, 08:41:18 PM
If Trump is good,  why is he still here? It's hard to get elected and stay there if you're there to do good i.e JFK. And how could MJ escape if they are everywhere and have most people under control? He needed to know the right powerful people in order to pull it off, that might prove to be pretty difficult.

That video does sound like JFK Jr, the inflection of the voice.


I know I'm new here, and maybe this seems a bit forward for a newbie; but with regards to Trump, it's my opinion that' he's still here because they're using a discrediting tactic, i.e. the fake news and assassination of character as opposed to an actual assassination or attempted assassination. If they were to make an attempt (God forbid) on his life then the masses would immediately start to look into the whole seedy establishment and realise that he was telling the truth all along. Therefore, they're (IMO) using the fake news and propaganda instead in order to completely discredit him.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 24, 2019, 05:59:55 AM
If Trump is good,  why is he still here? It's hard to get elected and stay there if you're there to do good i.e JFK. And how could MJ escape if they are everywhere and have most people under control? He needed to know the right powerful people in order to pull it off, that might prove to be pretty difficult.

That video does sound like JFK Jr, the inflection of the voice.


I know I'm new here, and maybe this seems a bit forward for a newbie; but with regards to Trump, it's my opinion that' he's still here because they're using a discrediting tactic, i.e. the fake news and assassination of character as opposed to an actual assassination or attempted assassination. If they were to make an attempt (God forbid) on his life then the masses would immediately start to look into the whole seedy establishment and realise that he was telling the truth all along. Therefore, they're (IMO) using the fake news and propaganda instead in order to completely discredit him.

Nail -> Head -> Boom  :Bomb:
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: GingerSnap on September 01, 2019, 01:21:24 AM
I was looking into Qanon before I started seriously looking at the real possibility that MJ faked his death (even though I'd heard of the hoax nine or so years ago). I never really connected the two, until I watched a couple of  MJDHI videos, and thought ''hmmm... interesting... maybe....'' But, I haven't drawn any conclusions yet. But, I will say, that MJ being part of a larger plan would make more sense than his faking his death as a publicity stunt, as some have suggested, or to escape the limelight. Besides, even though he was Michael Jackson, he could never have pulled it off, in the manner in which he did, without some serious help from people with the power to ensure it went smoothly.

I came across Qanon by chance, and found it all extremely interesting and started to pay more attention to American politics than I would normally have done. It's fairly standard that it's nearly impossible to live in the Western world and avoid what's going on politically in America, because in  modern Western society, America has pretty much replaced the old British Empire as being the standard bearer of Western power and values. But, when Trump was elected, America became a bigger focus than ever before; and it was mainly due to the media's excessively, grossly unfair portrayal of Trump.
To begin with, I'm ashamed to say, I took the fake news bait and hated Trump with a passion. Normally, I'm more openimnded than that, but when every news channel, both here in my country, in America, and almost worldwide, depicted him as a racist, a homophobe, a misogynist, etc, etc, it was all too easy to buy into the narrative; until I began to see how he was basically being set up by the media, which was egged on and encouraged by far left celebrities. I remember one heavily edited video which was being massively promoted by Harry Potter author, JK Rowling on Twitter in which Trump ''snubs'' a disabled child in a wheelchair and the reaction to that video was a huge hatefest. The White House released the full video, which showed Trump not only greet the child, but spend a moment or two talking to him, thus debunking the doctored video; yet even though JKR said she'd got it wrong, she didn't apologise like she should have done - neither did the other celebs. It was a case of ''oh, well, so he didn't snub the kid, but he's still, a racist/misogynist/homophobe.'' That got me looking into the whole thing even deeper and wondering; ''why do they want to take down this man so badly?'' I mean - not many people liked George W Bush, but he was never treated to such vitriolic abuse by the masses; not only in America, but worldwide, and he took America to war on a lie. No American president in history has been so disrespected and maligned, and had their words twisted and misrepresented as has Donald Trump. And anyone with half a brain would stop to think, why? And, while looking into fake news, I found out about Qanon. However, I think there might be one or more persons masquerading as Q out there, and that their posts are not the genuine article - but that's just my opinion.

As for JFK Jr, I really do believe he died twenty years ago along with his wife and sister in law. His death, I have researched, and I'm also of the opinion that it was no accident. I'd love if he had faked his death, but sadly, that's one theory I don't subscribe to.
Title: Re: The Calm Before The Storm?
Post by: ~Souza~ on September 01, 2019, 04:06:45 AM
I agree with you on JFK Jr., I just HOPE he's still alive.

As for Q posts, the ones on the websites that gather the posts (like qmap.pub) are always genuinely Q (whether that is 1 or more people). 8Chan has a system with a certain code attached to your name and that is how you can see it's really the Q team or an imposter.
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