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Title: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: ladylee1979 on December 29, 2009, 07:11:15 PM
Michael Jackson collapsed from a morphine overdose nearly six years ago after working himself into a ‘frenzy of anxiety’ over a TV interview.
A doctor found the star unconscious after being secretly summoned to his rented Beverly Hills home in the middle of the night. Hours earlier, more than 27million viewers in the US had watched
Jackson nervously defend himself against child sex charges.The incident has never been made public until today. The doctor who treated him has come forward because he believes the apparently accidental overdose has a bearing on the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death.
It is claimed that shortly before the singer died, he was injected with Demerol, a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. As with the first overdose, Jackson was said to be suffering from acute stress at the time.
In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, the doctor recalled the events of the early hours of December 29, 2003 – and how he also warned Jackson’s family that the star should seek help for his ‘obvious addiction’.
Referring to handwritten notes he made at the time, the doctor, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I’d been treating Michael’s brother Randy for several months when I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am. I was told someone wasn’t well and that they couldn’t call 911 [the US emergency services number] for security reasons.


just found this whilst looking for morphine lyrics
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Tereza on December 29, 2009, 08:02:21 PM
Everytime I even imagine Michael being afflicted and driven to distraction like this by such false allegations, it's breaking my heart... :cry:  :cry:  :cry: Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Especially not a man that always cares for others, spreads love and wisdom.
It's just very sad and shows how people have completely lost trust in each other.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 29, 2009, 08:18:25 PM
Luna67 talked about this in one of her videos and it was the first I had heard about it. It was the 60 minutes interview he did with Ed Bradley. The doctor asked Randy why he did not call 911 and he said it was because he was afraid of the media frenzy it could cause. The doctor said Michael would be fine because he was still breathing he just was not responsive to anything because of the deep sleep ,basically. He told Randy to keep him elevated because as the drug broke down and Michael came to,he may throw up. (all according to Luna67) The question is if Randy was with him and knew exactly what MJ had accidently overdosed on,in his nervous frenzy ,then how did he let it happen.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: hope on December 29, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Luna67 talked about this in one of her videos and it was the first I had heard about it. It was the 60 minutes interview he did with Ed Bradley. The doctor asked Randy why he did not call 911 and he said it was because he was afraid of the media frenzy it could cause. The doctor said Michael would be fine because he was still breathing he just was not responsive to anything because of the deep sleep ,basically. He told Randy to keep him elevated because as the drug broke down and Michael came to,he may throw up. (all according to Luna67) The question is if Randy was with him and knew exactly what MJ had accidently overdosed on,in his nervous frenzy ,then how did he let it happen.
Great question! I feel the same way you do  :evil:  The more I hear about his family (excluding the children), the more disgusted I get. :evil:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Secret Dove on December 29, 2009, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Luna67 talked about this in one of her videos and it was the first I had heard about it. It was the 60 minutes interview he did with Ed Bradley. The doctor asked Randy why he did not call 911 and he said it was because he was afraid of the media frenzy it could cause. The doctor said Michael would be fine because he was still breathing he just was not responsive to anything because of the deep sleep ,basically. He told Randy to keep him elevated because as the drug broke down and Michael came to,he may throw up. (all according to Luna67) The question is if Randy was with him and knew exactly what MJ had accidently overdosed on,in his nervous frenzy ,then how did he let it happen.
Great question! I feel the same way you do  :evil:  The more I hear about his family (excluding the children), the more disgusted I get. :evil:
I agree, great question!! Why would a brother allow his brother to accidently overdose? Randy knew what Michael did, but he didn't call for help before Michael got sick? Why would Randy allow Michael to work himself into a frenzy of anxiety? He should've calmed him down and helped him through how he was feeling,. not allow him to almost die!!  :x There's medication he could've gotten for Michael to help with his anxiety! Anxiety medication is better then overdosing on Morphine!! :?

The more I hear about his family(excluding his children), the more disgusted I get too!!! :evil:  :twisted:  :x  :twisted:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: O-drey-O on December 29, 2009, 09:24:50 PM
Wth?!  :?
Do you have the link please?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Happy Feet on December 29, 2009, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Luna67 talked about this in one of her videos and it was the first I had heard about it. It was the 60 minutes interview he did with Ed Bradley. The doctor asked Randy why he did not call 911 and he said it was because he was afraid of the media frenzy it could cause. The doctor said Michael would be fine because he was still breathing he just was not responsive to anything because of the deep sleep ,basically. He told Randy to keep him elevated because as the drug broke down and Michael came to,he may throw up. (all according to Luna67) The question is if Randy was with him and knew exactly what MJ had accidently overdosed on,in his nervous frenzy ,then how did he let it happen.
Great question! I feel the same way you do  :evil:  The more I hear about his family (excluding the children), the more disgusted I get. :evil:
I agree, great question!! Why would a brother allow his brother to accidently overdose? Randy knew what Michael did, but he didn't call for help before Michael got sick? Why would Randy allow Michael to work himself into a frenzy of anxiety? He should've calmed him down and helped him through how he was feeling,. not allow him to almost die!!  :x There's medication he could've gotten for Michael to help with his anxiety! Anxiety medication is better then overdosing on Morphine!! :?

The more I hear about his family(excluding his children), the more disgusted I get too!!! :evil:  :twisted:  :x  :twisted:


You can't blame Randy for Michaels supposed accidential overdose here. Seriously guys, if that story is true it's not his families fault. It's those accusers and the media that put Michael through this. If Randy wasn't there at all then Michael could of very well succeeded (if this story is true). The fact his brother did stay with him during this time speaks more to me than an accident that occured whilst he was there. He also discreetly rang the Dr to get Michael help, again protecting Michael's reputation in all of this. He knew what this story could of done to Michael.  I had a sister who suicided when I was younger (shared that on another thread). Her bedroom was right next to mine. I don't blame my family for this although I do question the "what if" of the situation.

I'm just glad Randy was there and found him in time. Actually leaving Michael completely alone during this time would be more grounds for me to think the family didn't do anything.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: O-drey-O on December 29, 2009, 09:31:51 PM
I remember when I was watching this interview... I cried so hard...  :cry: Can't believe what Michael has been through and how he was treated by the police... It's appalling.  :x  :cry:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 29, 2009, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
I remember when I was watching this interview... I cried so hard...  :cry: Can't believe what Michael has been through and how he was treated by the police... It's appalling.  :x  :cry:
O my gosh-I know that total empty look in his eyes was heart breaking.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: CC on December 29, 2009, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
I remember when I was watching this interview... I cried so hard...  :cry: Can't believe what Michael has been through and how he was treated by the police... It's appalling.  :x  :cry:
O my gosh-I know that total empty look in his eyes was heart breaking.

 :evil: :cry:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Ninanina on December 30, 2009, 05:46:34 AM
Quote from: "Happy Feet"
You can't blame Randy for Michaels supposed accidential overdose here. Seriously guys, if that story is true it's not his families fault. It's those accusers and the media that put Michael through this. If Randy wasn't there at all then Michael could of very well succeeded (if this story is true). The fact his brother did stay with him during this time speaks more to me than an accident that occured whilst he was there. He also discreetly rang the Dr to get Michael help, again protecting Michael's reputation in all of this. He knew what this story could of done to Michael.  I had a sister who suicided when I was younger (shared that on another thread). Her bedroom was right next to mine. I don't blame my family for this although I do question the "what if" of the situation.

I'm just glad Randy was there and found him in time. Actually leaving Michael completely alone during this time would be more grounds for me to think the family didn't do anything.

You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
Thank you!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: ladylee1979 on December 30, 2009, 07:28:17 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ew-US.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196035/Doctor-I-saved-Jackson-morphine-overdose-TV-interview-US.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: ladylee1979 on December 30, 2009, 07:30:53 AM
is it possiable that michael worked himself into yet another frenzy because of the upcoming tour? prescription med addicts are very good at hiding thier addiction from family and friends im not gonna deny michael was an addict he said it himself but i will deny hes dead.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: the_gloved_one on December 30, 2009, 07:37:36 AM
my question is who gave Michael the morphine, a doctor? or did he inject it himself?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: ladylee1979 on December 30, 2009, 07:47:41 AM
good point
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: GirlSaturday on December 30, 2009, 07:47:55 AM
If MJ was hellbent on taking morphine, who knew and who could stop him? People close to him may have been unaware. Just ask anyone who has experienced addiction about the tricks used to hide the addiction and the sneaky ways that they administered their drugs. Luckily Randy was there to find the collapsed body and help prevent the potential deadly overdose.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: larab on December 30, 2009, 07:51:01 AM
he could've injected morphine himself..it doesn't knock you down immediatly.
just sad. his family knew about everything and never helped him.. :cry:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 30, 2009, 08:01:37 AM
Quote from: "larab"
he could've injected morphine himself..it doesn't knock you down immediatly.
just sad. his family knew about everything and never helped him.. :cry:

The last part I am not quite sure about. For example Joe and some other Jackson never had in mind that Michael was doing drugs or painkillers according to them this came as a shock (the death cause). On the other side your hear that they were trying to get him to undergo rehab in January, the Jacksons seems very disjointed...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: rayvyn on December 30, 2009, 08:35:31 AM
Quote from: "ladylee1979"
Michael Jackson collapsed from a morphine overdose nearly six years ago after working himself into a ‘frenzy of anxiety’ over a TV interview.
A doctor found the star unconscious after being secretly summoned to his rented Beverly Hills home in the middle of the night. Hours earlier, more than 27million viewers in the US had watched
Jackson nervously defend himself against child sex charges.The incident has never been made public until today. The doctor who treated him has come forward because he believes the apparently accidental overdose has a bearing on the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death.
It is claimed that shortly before the singer died, he was injected with Demerol, a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. As with the first overdose, Jackson was said to be suffering from acute stress at the time.
In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, the doctor recalled the events of the early hours of December 29, 2003 – and how he also warned Jackson’s family that the star should seek help for his ‘obvious addiction’.
Referring to handwritten notes he made at the time, the doctor, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I’d been treating Michael’s brother Randy for several months when I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am. I was told someone wasn’t well and that they couldn’t call 911 [the US emergency services number] for security reasons.


just found this whilst looking for morphine lyrics


What's the date on when the article was written?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 30, 2009, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: "rayvyn"
Quote from: "ladylee1979"
Michael Jackson collapsed from a morphine overdose nearly six years ago after working himself into a ‘frenzy of anxiety’ over a TV interview.
A doctor found the star unconscious after being secretly summoned to his rented Beverly Hills home in the middle of the night. Hours earlier, more than 27million viewers in the US had watched
Jackson nervously defend himself against child sex charges.The incident has never been made public until today. The doctor who treated him has come forward because he believes the apparently accidental overdose has a bearing on the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death.
It is claimed that shortly before the singer died, he was injected with Demerol, a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. As with the first overdose, Jackson was said to be suffering from acute stress at the time.
In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, the doctor recalled the events of the early hours of December 29, 2003 – and how he also warned Jackson’s family that the star should seek help for his ‘obvious addiction’.
Referring to handwritten notes he made at the time, the doctor, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I’d been treating Michael’s brother Randy for several months when I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am. I was told someone wasn’t well and that they couldn’t call 911 [the US emergency services number] for security reasons.


just found this whilst looking for morphine lyrics


What's the date on when the article was written?

It was written in late June 2009
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: watthhel on December 30, 2009, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: "Tereza"
Everytime I even imagine Michael being afflicted and driven to distraction like this by such false allegations, it's breaking my heart... :cry:  :cry:  :cry: Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Especially not a man that always cares for others, spreads love and wisdom.
It's just very sad and shows how people have completely lost trust in each other.

But think about: always the good ones are always made bad. :(
Whether from envy or why also always.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: liril on December 30, 2009, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Quote from: "larab"
he could've injected morphine himself..it doesn't knock you down immediatly.
just sad. his family knew about everything and never helped him.. :cry:

The last part I am not quite sure about. For example Joe and some other Jackson never had in mind that Michael was doing drugs or painkillers according to them this came as a shock (the death cause). On the other side your hear that they were trying to get him to undergo rehab in January, the Jacksons seems very disjointed...


the contradictory statements are killing me
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Eva R on December 30, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: "watthhel"
Quote from: "Tereza"
Everytime I even imagine Michael being afflicted and driven to distraction like this by such false allegations, it's breaking my heart... :cry:  :cry:  :cry: Nobody deserves to be treated like this. Especially not a man that always cares for others, spreads love and wisdom.
It's just very sad and shows how people have completely lost trust in each other.

But think about: always the good ones are always made bad. :(
Whether from envy or why also always.
yeah your right.. Always the good ones. Why are those people in the world. Michael NEVER done anything bad. Never! Always good things. Why do they get him? because his look changed? Because he has lots of money? Because he loves kids? I  just dont understand. Aren't those people thinking about that Michael also has kids that can hear and read this BS. Don't they understand that??!!  :x Sorry, but it just hurts so bad inside..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: lauren09 on December 30, 2009, 11:31:07 AM
This tabloid garbage can story is COMPLETE BS. I can't believe a fan would even post this link and/or article.

Shame on you!

This is complete lies!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 30, 2009, 11:36:44 AM
Quote from: "lauren09"
This tabloid garbage can story is COMPLETE BS. I can't believe a fan would even post this link and/or article.

Shame on you!

This is complete lies!

Before we dismiss a story we have to have legit reasons and dissect it and then either dismiss it or find some truth between the lines. The OP shall not feel ashamed and you have no right making her feel like this. Her intention was no bad.

The thing with hoax forums is that as soon something goes against the hoax we immediately dismiss it, but we believe anything that goes along with the hoax trail, what kind of double morals is this?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: lauren09 on December 30, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Sorry, this story is complete UK tabloid trash, period. It's what Michael Jackson hated!  There's absolutely no truth to this. Why would a doctor talk to a UK taloid trash magazine and no one in US heard about this. This is BS.  And, all of a sudden after 6 years, this story is now released....please!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on December 30, 2009, 11:49:12 AM
Quote from: "lauren09"
Sorry, this story is complete UK tabloid trash, period. It's what Michael Jackson hated!  There's absolutely no truth to this. Why would a doctor talk to a UK taloid trash magazine and no one in US heard about this. This is BS.  And, all of a sudden after 6 years, this story is now released....please!

Sure it might as well be BS, we shall quite frankly not believe anything we hear from any tabloid. This article intention might be to throw Michael's name in the dirt (again), however I do not know whether this is true or not.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: ladylee1979 on January 02, 2010, 09:52:56 AM
thankyou for your support i didnt mean anything bad by the post im just tryin to find clues myself and a different point of view,i too hate the media but you cannot deny michael was addicted to painkillers he told the world in 1993 on live tv also listen to the lyrics on morphine what was he tryin to say or state? for the record ive been a fan for 25yrs i mean no harm to michael i just want answers like you and i did say i found this article whilst lookin for the morphine lyrics to post elsewhere.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Amber on January 03, 2010, 06:14:28 PM
I just want to mention this. My gran is on morphine has been for 5 months now for a operation she had which has left her in soo much pain [hence the morphine]  when she takes it, it takes about 45 mins to kick in, and when its kicked in she makes noo sense what so ever. i just think someone who lived with mj would def no if he was using morphine. my gran takes it herself it comes in a bottle its liquid. just thought id mention  :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 03, 2010, 06:16:51 PM
"doctor who wished not to be named"

why no name for the doctor???  He has nothing to hide as he states here he tried to help MJ.

i think it is made up.. i dont trust anything that quotes sources and unnamed people.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: rag doll on January 04, 2010, 03:47:26 AM
"...I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am..."

A "doctor" who doesn´t want to be named but who has ties to the Jackson family?
Someone who apparently cultivates a solid filing system of his handwritten notes after all these years...
1.51 = 7  - another coincidence?

Just saying... another part of the script maybe?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Dancing_Machine on January 04, 2010, 01:10:37 PM
Quote from: "ladylee1979"
Michael Jackson collapsed from a morphine overdose nearly six years ago after working himself into a ‘frenzy of anxiety’ over a TV interview.
A doctor found the star unconscious after being secretly summoned to his rented Beverly Hills home in the middle of the night. Hours earlier, more than 27million viewers in the US had watched
Jackson nervously defend himself against child sex charges.The incident has never been made public until today. The doctor who treated him has come forward because he believes the apparently accidental overdose has a bearing on the circumstances surrounding Jackson’s death.
It is claimed that shortly before the singer died, he was injected with Demerol, a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. As with the first overdose, Jackson was said to be suffering from acute stress at the time.
In an interview with The Mail on Sunday, the doctor recalled the events of the early hours of December 29, 2003 – and how he also warned Jackson’s family that the star should seek help for his ‘obvious addiction’.
Referring to handwritten notes he made at the time, the doctor, who asked not to be named, said: ‘I’d been treating Michael’s brother Randy for several months when I was awakened by a phone call from him at 1.51am. I was told someone wasn’t well and that they couldn’t call 911 [the US emergency services number] for security reasons.


just found this whilst looking for morphine lyrics

This text sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Like Michael used morphine?  :x
Btw,  Michael was still living in Neverland in 2003, so that's already a big lie.
This is just the usual tabloid junk...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: karen-ishealive on January 04, 2010, 01:17:38 PM
If this interview was done on CNN or Sky News then maybe I would believe it, I don't believe tabloids.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
The drugs Dr. Murray admits to administering do not include Demerol or Morphine. The autopsy report (fake of course) DOES NOT list Demerol as having been found in Michael's system. This story is as fake as the autopsy and is only out there to promote the idea that Michael was an out of control addict. So not true!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: Grace on January 04, 2010, 01:34:36 PM
...not to forget that Michael and his family would place falsified information in order to mess up the scene and set up false traces.

So the information that he got sick, was not capable, was addicted and so on could have been sourced out of pure purpose. This is beating media with their own weapons - that's why they are so still right now. You cannot hold journalists back from selling a story - except if they would ridicule themselves by publishing. They are in a trap right now.

We too are in a trap since we have to face fake information from at least two sources that are placed in front of us with different intention but always on purpose.
I would even dare saying that only 20% of the information on Michael in the web is somewhat accurate. In print media I would consider the content of truth being only 5%.

Whatever is out there as information on Michael and prescription drugs may also have the purpose of initiating some folks to get nervous or take some action that will make them put their feet into the traps of authorities watching.

Don't believe what you read. Always add some grains of salt.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: DooDoo on January 06, 2010, 09:48:22 AM
Just because it's printed it doesn't mean it's the truth .
Someone I love just told me that, once   ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson collapsed from morphine overdose 6 years ago
Post by: mumof3 on January 06, 2010, 09:56:40 AM
You are right my mother had to have morphine when she was ill and she talked and made no sense and my son had morphine when he had an accident and he was in a stupor for days  with it and made no sense at all. So this does not add up as it takes time to get out of your system and to on and have an interview seems to much to ask i
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