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Title: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: pepper on October 11, 2011, 05:21:34 PM

This Day in History - August 25    ;)

The Great Moon Hoax of 1835

By R. J. Brown
Editor-in-Chief

Every History of American journalistic hoaxing properly begins with the celebrated moon hoax which "made" the New York Sun of Benjamin Day. It consisted of a series of articles, allegedly reprinted from the nonexistent Edinburgh Journal of Science, relating to the discovery of life on the moon by Sir John Herschel, eminent British astronomer, who some time before had gone to the Cape of Good Hope to try out a new type of powerful telescope.

The first installment of the moon hoax appeared in the August 25, 1835 edition of the New York Sun on page two, under the heading "Celestial Discoveries." The brief passage read in part as follows: "We have just learnt (sic) from an eminent publisher in this city that Sir John Herschel at the Cape of Good Hope, has made some astronomical discoveries of the most wonderful description, by means of an immense telescope of an entirely new principle."

As a matter of fact, Herschel had gone to South Africa in January, 1834, and set up an observatory at Cape Town. Three columns of the first page of the Sun contained a story credited to the Edinburgh Journal of Science. (That publication had suspended some time before.) There was a great deal of matter about the importance of Herschel's impending announcement of his discoveries.

On August 25, the Sun ran four columns describing what Sir John had been able to see, looking at the moon through his telescope.

So fascinating were the descriptions of trees and vegetation, oceans and beaches, bison and goats, cranes and pelicans that the whole town was talking even before the fourth installment appeared on August 28, 1835, with the master revelation of all: the discovery of furry, winged men resembling bats. The narration was printed as follows:

    "We counted three parties of these creatures, of twelve, nine and fifteen in each, walking erect towards a small wood... Certainly they were like human beings, for their wings had now disappeared and their attitude in walking was both erect and dignified... About half of the first party had passed beyond our canvas; but of all the others we had perfectly distinct and deliberate view. They averaged four feet in height, were covered, except on the face, with short and glossy copper-colored hair, and had wings composed of a thin membrane, without hair, lying snugly upon their backs from the top of the shoulders to the calves of their legs.

    The face, which was of a yellowish color, was an improvement upon that of the large orangutan... so much so that but for their long wings they would look as well on a parade ground as some of the old cockney militia. The hair of the head was a darker color than that of the body, closely curled but apparently not woolly, and arranged in two circles over the temples of the forehead. Their feet could only be seen as they were alternately lifted in walking; but from what we could see of them in so transient a view they appeared thin and very protuberant at the heel...We could perceive that their wings possessed great expansion and were similar in structure of those of the bat, being a semitransparent membrane expanded in curvilinear divisions by means of straight radii, united at the back by dorsal integuments. But what astonished us most was the circumstance of this membrane being continued from the shoulders to the legs, united all the way down, though gradually decreasing in width. The wings seemed completely under the command of volition, for those of the creatures whom we saw bathing in the water spread them instantly to their full width, waved them as ducks do theirs to shake off the water, and then as instantly closed them again in a compact form.

The Sun reached a circulation of 15,000 daily on the first of the stories. When the discovery of men on the moon appeared Day was able to announce that the Sun possessed the largest circulation of any newspaper in the world: 19,360.

Later stories told of the Temple of the Moon, constructed of sapphire, with a roof of yellow resembling gold. There were pillars seventy feet high and six feet thick supporting the roof of the temple. More man-bats were discovered and readers of the Sun were awaiting more astounding details, but the Sun told them the telescope had, unfortunately, been left facing the east and the Sun's rays, concentrated through the lenses, burned a hole "15 feet in circumference" entirely through the reflecting chamber, putting the observatory out of commission.

Rival editors were frantic; many of them pretended to have access to the original articles and began reprinting the Sun's series. It was not until the Journal of Commerce sought permission to publish the series in pamphlet form, however, that Richard Adams Locke, confessed authorship. Some authorities think that a French scientist, Nicollet, in this country at the time, wrote them.

Before Locke's confession a committee of scientists from Yale University hastened to New York to inspect the original articles; it was shunted from editorial office to print shop and back again until it tired and returned to New Haven. Edgar Allan Poe explained that he stopped work on the second part of The Strange Adventures of Hans Pfaall because he had felt he had been outdone. So many writers have perpetuated the legend that Harriet Martineau in her Retrospect of Western Travel said a Springfield, Massachusetts, missionary society resolved to send missionaries to the moon to convert and civilize the bat men.

After a number of his competitors, humiliated because they had "lifted" the series and passed it off as their own, upbraided Day, the Sun of September 16, 1835, admitted the hoax. When the hoax was exposed people were generally amused. It did not seem to lessen interest in the Sun, which never lost its increased circulation.

http://www.historybuff.com/library/refmoon.html

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On this day in 1835, the first in a series of six articles announcing the supposed discovery of life on the moon appears in the New York Sun newspaper.

Known collectively as "The Great Moon Hoax," the articles were supposedly reprinted from the Edinburgh Journal of Science. The byline was Dr. Andrew Grant, described as a colleague of Sir John Herschel, a famous astronomer of the day. Herschel had in fact traveled to Capetown, South Africa, in January 1834 to set up an observatory with a powerful new telescope. As Grant described it, Herschel had found evidence of life forms on the moon, including such fantastic animals as unicorns, two-legged beavers and furry, winged humanoids resembling bats. The articles also offered vivid description of the moon's geography, complete with massive craters, enormous amethyst crystals, rushing rivers and lush vegetation.

The New York Sun, founded in 1833, was one of the new "penny press" papers that appealed to a wider audience with a cheaper price and a more narrative style of journalism. From the day the first moon hoax article was released, sales of the paper shot up considerably. It was exciting stuff, and readers lapped it up. The only problem was that none of it was true. The Edinburgh Journal of Science had stopped publication years earlier, and Grant was a fictional character. The articles were most likely written by Richard Adams Locke, a Sun reporter educated at Cambridge University. Intended as satire, they were designed to poke fun at earlier, serious speculations about extraterrestrial life, particularly those of Reverend Thomas Dick, a popular science writer who claimed in his bestselling books that the moon alone had 4.2 billion inhabitants.

Readers were completely taken in by the story, however, and failed to recognize it as satire. The craze over Herschel's supposed discoveries even fooled a committee of Yale University scientists, who traveled to New York in search of the Edinburgh Journal articles. After Sun employees sent them back and forth between the printing and editorial offices, hoping to discourage them, the scientists returned to New Haven without realizing they had been tricked.

On September 16, 1835, the Sun admitted the articles had been a hoax. People were generally amused by the whole thing, and sales of the paper didn’t suffer. The Sun continued operation until 1950, when it merged with the New York World-Telegram.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-great-moon-hoax
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: Andrea on October 11, 2011, 06:51:17 PM
August 25, Great Moon HOAX and "discovery of LIFE" !!  Love it.

While I don't think the autopsy photo is meant to be funny per se, an interesting quote from above:

"Readers were completely taken in by the story, however, and failed to recognize it as satire."
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: Vietnow on October 11, 2011, 08:42:07 PM
What you don't realize is that the picture actually has the correct date. At least from what I saw on my TV when they zoomed in on it. 6-25-2009.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 11, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
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What you don't realize is that the picture actually has the correct date. At least from what I saw on my TV when they zoomed in on it. 6-25-2009.

Dr. Rogers confirmed the date was 8/25 instead of 6/25. Besides that, wasn't the autopsy performed on June 26th in the morning? So the correct date should have been: 6/26/2009, not 8/25, 2009 or even 6/25, 2009.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: Vietnow on October 11, 2011, 11:34:45 PM
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What you don't realize is that the picture actually has the correct date. At least from what I saw on my TV when they zoomed in on it. 6-25-2009.

Dr. Rogers confirmed the date was 8/25 instead of 6/25. Besides that, wasn't the autopsy performed on June 26th in the morning? So the correct date should have been: 6/26/2009, not 8/25, 2009 or even 6/25, 2009.

Ahh yes. That makes more sense! 6/26/2009
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: lorela on October 11, 2011, 11:40:08 PM
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Ahh yes. That makes more sense! 6/26/2009

Yes, it makes a 7!
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: msgitm on October 11, 2011, 11:45:32 PM
The autopsy photo is pre-autopsy - so the pic could have been when the coroner received him on June 25th.  I still don't think it's real but could explain why they tried to correct the date.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 12, 2011, 12:50:28 AM
No propofol found in the oesophagus or stomach.......Michael Joseph Jackson was in great shape....healthier than most 50 y/o's......

Weight 136lbs.....height 5ft 9 inches.....CONFIRMED.....VITILIGO !!!!!!!!!!


Michael Joseph Jackson...
/bravo/ /bravo/ /bravo/ /bravo/
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: MJonmind on October 12, 2011, 01:08:05 AM
On the other thread Voiceforthesilent said that they wouldn't have made a deal about the date being wrong if they didn't want to draw attention to it. No coincidences remember?

(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/autopsypic.jpg)

This is similar to the Cardiff stadium chosen for the MJ tribute concert with the clear link to the PT Barnum hoax of the Cardiff giant. So I think you're on the right track Pepper with your date connection, and Andrea's link to Back/Front's numbers.  Plus the "moon" connects well to other MJ links.

Yes, the glow and constant reminder of "sheets" in this hoax does connect to the burial of Jesus.  As for the Shroud of Turin, it is another hoax/fake/fraud whatever you want to call it.  http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/scams/shroud_of_turin/index.html  Plus it doesn't even match the descriptions of what took place in the Bible.  The head piece was rolled up separately and the body wrapped mummy style; there was no forensic sign of the 100 lbs. of spices wrapped with the body given by Nicodemus; its carbon-dated for around 1300 AD, and the most convincing to me is the fact that an image burned into a molded cloth all around the body would produce a distorted spread image similar to the problem of creating a flat map of the earth's globular shape, yet the image looks picture perfect and would have had to be burned onto a flat smooth sheet to look like that. Hoax.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 12, 2011, 07:42:05 AM
It is also the same day that the German RTL TV station, made the "damage control" video of the  coroners van....

Besides all of the obvious clues we have already discussed, WHY the hell were they allowed under the Coroners to film the fake video??

Also, the painted fake lights they added onto the roof at the rear of the ambulance, would not reflect the lights on the wall near the door, as did the original video that surface....
 
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: jacilovesmichael on October 12, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
The first installment of the moon hoax appeared in the August 25, 1835 edition of the New York Sun
Also...remember "The Sun" printed that DaveDave story....
"They print my message in the Saturday Sun..."   :)
 
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: SEHF on October 12, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
Looks like a 6 to me.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 12, 2011, 09:47:49 AM
Whether it is a 6 or an 8 doesn't matter. The autopsy was performed on 6/26, not 6/25. So the date is wrong either way.
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: julia142 on October 12, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Remember Paris tweet 2 days ago?
 
  Quote from: voiceforthesilent on October 10, 2011, 12:48:30 PM (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18330.msg361966.html#msg361966) <blockquote>Tell me what the meaning of this is? I am sure there must be meaning but I don't get it...

http://yfrog.com/h3my0lbj (http://yfrog.com/h3my0lbj)

  Quote <blockquote>   pariisjaxn (http://yfrog.com/user/pariisjaxn/profile) 26 mins 13 secs ago Twitter (http://twitter.com/)  Full Moon Tonight!! Me And My Pack Of Unicorns Will Go Galloping Tonight. yfrog.com/h3my0lbj (http://yfrog.com/h3my0lbj)
 
And the day before yesterday was not full moon, it was yesterday... So maybe a clue for the illusion of the date of the autopsy relating to the Great Moon Hoax on august 25th? Does it make sense? </blockquote></blockquote>
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: blankie on October 12, 2011, 03:12:12 PM
Simply........ highlight .. :) /woohoo/ GREAT SOUZA !! /woohoo/










 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: pepper on October 12, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
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author=julia142 link=topic=20850.msg362651#msg362651 date=1318432648]
Remember Paris tweet 2 days ago?
 
  Quote from: voiceforthesilent on October 10, 2011, 12:48:30 PM Tell me what the meaning of this is? I am sure there must be meaning but I don't get it...

http://yfrog.com/h3my0lbj

    pariisjaxn 26 mins 13 secs ago Twitter  Full Moon Tonight!! Me And My Pack Of Unicorns Will Go Galloping Tonight. yfrog.com/h3my0lbj
 
And the day before yesterday was not full moon, it was yesterday... So maybe a clue for the illusion of the date of the autopsy relating to the Great Moon Hoax on august 25th? Does it make sense?

YES!!!!!!  This makes a lot of sense to me!  Thank you so much!
I looked up some stuff and here is what I found...

Yes, the full moon this month was on October 11.  But look what else...

"By coincidence, October's full moon comes just days after the second annual International Observe the Moon Night on Oct. 8, in which skywatchers participated in hundreds of lunar observing events at skywatching parties around the world. "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44853088/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.TpX7iUc9nTp

Oh, there was an International Observe the Moon Night on OCTOBER 8th??



Yep. ;)  And how about the title of this next article -

"Draconid Meteor Shower Thrills Skywatchers Despite Moon's Glow"

"The much-anticipated outburst of Draconid meteors hit its peak on schedule Saturday (Oct. 8), amazing amateur astronomers outside the United States despite predictions that the bright moon would dampen the shooting star display..."
http://www.space.com/13240-draconid-meteor-shower-2011-skywatcher-photos.html

Wow.  And if that isn't enough, remember that the "Memorial" at Staples Center was the day of a full moon - July 7, 2009.  And also a "penumbral lunar eclipse"!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_2009_lunar_eclipse

Also, the "Burial" at Forest Lawn was the night before a full moon.  September 3, 2009 (But the moon "looked" full.  Another link to Paris' tweet about a "Full Moon Tonight!" when she was also talking about the night BEFORE a full moon)

"Friday, September 4, 2009 – It’s a Full Moon tonight. Many cultures refer to this one in particular as the ‘‘Corn Moon,’’ because at this time of year most corn crops are ready for harvest."
http://www.universetoday.com/39145/weekend-skywatchers-forecast-september-4-6-2009/
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: PureLove on October 12, 2011, 04:37:07 PM
There's NO coincidence in this hoax. The Man planned this hoax for decades. Every detail was arranged by him, everything! The (full) Moon picture posted by Paris and the Moon hoax dates can not be coincidences with the "wrong" but not wrong autopsy date.

P.S: It's a pre- autopsy picture and the date of the pic belongs to the day the coroner got the body. So it should be 6.25.2009 and not 6.26.2009
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: angel on October 14, 2011, 10:42:37 PM
Another "moon" connection, if you look at the autopsy photo label:  People v. Murray  SA073164.  Taking that as a date, July 31, 1964, there was an historical event.  "Ranger 7 sends back the first close-up photographs of the moon, with images 1,000 times clearer than anything ever seen from earth-bound telescopes".
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: SimPattyK on October 14, 2011, 11:30:35 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxjuzA4sIcY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/youtube]
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: SimPattyK on October 14, 2011, 11:35:51 PM
hummm nice connection !!
Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835 -----)) 1935 = the year Elvis was born ;)


Regarding the Autopsy photo... watch this ----------)) http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,18805.125.html
Title: Re: August 25 Autopsy Photo Date - The Great Moon Hoax 8/25/1835
Post by: Coco on October 15, 2011, 02:27:15 AM
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Another "moon" connection, if you look at the autopsy photo label:  People v. Murray  SA073164.  Taking that as a date, July 31, 1964, there was an historical event.  "Ranger 7 sends back the first close-up photographs of the moon, with images 1,000 times clearer than anything ever seen from earth-bound telescopes".

Wow, that's a great connection! The pre-autopsy image isn't very clear, though. :lol:
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