Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: Guest on March 16, 2011, 12:26:24 PM
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I for one am glad (supervision) was called out. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. She has some nerve with the BS she's always posting about. Then she and a couple others try to lure people to that (visions) thread. I mean, doesn't she know by now that if people want to read that stuff she and others post in there, then they will. They need to stop trying to recruite people to that boring thread.
Who cares what visions she and others have about Michael? Those visions have nothing to do with Mike other than in their own heads and visions. Mike has enough to do to keep up with his own visions. Lol. Get over yourselves visioners. She was also rude to go into Serenity’s Dream Religious Symbolism thread just to pick a fight with her. She is so bitter and negative, and then she ends it with, I Luv u MJ, and other such BS. Rolls eyes.
Also people, MJ IS ALIVE. Some so-called believers should call themselves doubters just to be able to keep up with their positions. Some of us are KNOWERS. We know that MJ is alive, so that should no longer be the issue here. After 21 months, some people are still trying to find clues that he is alive? Come on people!
So....... MJ is alive. Let's start with that premise. Let's list all of the places some of us believe he has appeared, i.e., Dave-Dave on LKL, VMAs, BET Awards, Hat Man, Lady, and on and on. Then why do some people act as if he is living in a cave? He is the DIRECTOR/PRODUCER, Liberian Girl style, so why do some always pipe up with, MJ must now be alive or he is out of pocket, or else this or that wouldn't take place? His base is probably Las Vegas, as father and brother live there. Wonderland is there. Lol
Case in point, his sister-in-law being in the news a lot here lately Doesn't MJ own part of TMZ = The Michael Zone? Even if he doesn't, he is the one running things through TMZ, no question. I mean this is each and every day if he wants to. He many designate, but MJ is such a hands on kind of guy, in my opinion, everything we see come out of TMZ and I also think the X17online.com website also, has Michael Joe Jackson's OFFICIAL STAMP on it. It would not be released unless he wants it to people. Why and at what point do some forget this fact? Why?
MJ wrote a song title Tabloid Junkie. TMZ = Tabloid Junkie. They were the first to announce his death. MJ is trying to prove how some people will believe any and everything TMZ puts out. Remember always how first the TABLOIDS tried to ruin him by lies and untruths. He was so hurt and disappointed that some people belived those lies and untruths from back in the middle eighties folks. I never believed that mess.
MJ owns the Encino property, so to keep his name in the news, HE prepares articles about Latoya owning it, his sister-in-law being a squatter and on and on. Mike is alive. He loves Genevieve and all of her brothers. He probably loves Alexandra also. There is no way he is trying to put her out. It is all a lie just to get people going, and for him to have documented proof how easy it is for people to believe anything they read. She has lived there for twenty years. She is the only other woman to live there along with her daughter, so I can't imagine that Mrs. Jackson would want or need for her to leave. It is a mansiona dn huge property.
Plus, it IS NOT any of our business what goes on in that house, and that is another thing MJ is documenting. He is probably shaking his heads at the ones that seem to get so indignant about something that they have zilch to do with. We need to worry about paying our own mortgages and rents. They reported over 239 million Americans live from paycheck to paycheck. Is that why some people get so wrapped up, sound bitter and angry about Alexandra, because they are upset with their own circumstances? MJ has her back, in my opinion. She is following HIS DIRECTION. She is willing to be slammed in the Tabloids (TMZ) for MJ, because she knows that there is no truth to it and she is acting her part, IMO.
Didn't many people sign a Confidentiality agreement with MJ? This was with MJ, and not anyone else. It's just like some people get upset with the Estate. I mean really! The Estate is MJ. He is running things. He has a telephone. He probablyhas Skype (under another's name), and etc. Remember the Liberian Girl video. Those folks most likely signed one, and on and on.
Didn't the young Rap group that remade (by MJ's request) - I Wanna Be Where You Are, call it a movie? Has anyone ever stopped to think why this Rap group got up on TMZ for A- LIVE interview so fast? Who has pull to be able to make that happen that quickly?
Sometimes it may be hard to fathom that MJ may be behind all of these rumors, lies half-truths and etc, but when believing he is alive, we must also believe that HE is running the Greatest Show on Earth, filming, directing, producing, executing and documenting this Hoax. There should be no question. There is no one more brilliant than him as it pertains to the development and planning of this hoax. I mean no harm, but there are very few people even in this hoax that can reach MJ's Brilliance now or ever. He is just one of a kind.
I agree with Souza as it pertains to her saying that she is tired of all of the whining and what not, because it gets very tedious for one to have to sift through the non-believers and doubters.
Again, let's start with the Premise that MJ is Alive, and then everything else should fall into place. Don't beat yourselves up so much trying to figure out WHY MJ is doing this or that. When I hear some Controversy, and especially coming from TMZ, I just file it in my computer brain and pull it back up as needed. I have never gotten stressed over any TMZ article.
And please show MJ's mother some respect. See, this is what I mean. MJ is alive, so we need to back off of his mother and other family members. She is doing everything he is asking of her. Does anyone still have that (was it NBC) TV interview she gave for the anniversary on around 6-25-10. Notice that we never really hear who was interviewing her. Next thing we know, she is just answering questions. Questions that someone (MJ?) was leading her with. Was this the one when she introduced MJ's Table Book? I think MJ was interviewing her. I know they associated that Mann character with her at the time right? I think he was someone around, but he wasn't the one interviewing her.
I believe like someone on this forum wrote a long time ago. MJ learned a long time ago to keep his friends close but his enemies closer. In other words, he can work with people with checkered pasts, corrupt politicians, frenemies and etc as long as he feels it can aid him in whatever it is he needs to learn about or get done. No one does it quite like our MJ.
Just my humble opinions.
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Please watch the J5 Hall of Fame Induction (1997) on youtube. You'll see how close MJ is to Jermaine. He cried and cried Jackie said on (Jackson Family Dynasty) the first time JJ didn't appear with the group onstage. The movie also shows MJ being extremely upset. Lol, he tells Jermaine, "I'm asking you to sing with us. C'mon bro, sing with us." Like he was all of that. Lol
They are brothers people. Grow up! What kind of families do you all have that if you argue, then you don't ever make up? Your feelings mean nada concerning their relationship. They don't know us.
Jermaine had the right to sing that song if he wanted to. It is his brother after all. He is older, and if he felt MJ was acting strange and being selfish, he had a right to say so. Putting it in a song might not have been the best thing to do, but right thing to do? Only God can judge his heart as he will judge all of ours. And MJ got over it. In retrospect, I'm sure they laughed about it. Sheesh.....
Plus, what I don't understand is at what point and/or age do some of you think MJ was mind-controlled? Eh? Wouldn't the controllers try to keep him from his family? Remember, the family claimed that Latoya was brainwashed when she was married to that madman. Back then, that is what it was called? We understood that concept as to what they probably meant back then, but not like some of us understand what they most likely meant in today's terms, and whilst actually using the words Mind-Controlled, i.e., Marilyn Monroe. We learned of their comments mostly through black magazines back then , as it sure was reported on the news, if I'm not mistaken. They knew about that evil mand and about the fact that he wasn't the only one involved, but they didn't want to say too much. They were afraid for her. Randy finally went to New York and snuck her back home.
He loves each and everyone of his siblings, as he related in the 2005 Geraldo interview. They all love each other very, very much. And nothing will change that fact.
Quote: "Despite what the public and press people say, we're friends. We love each other very much." He also said after Geraldo asked him who were his best friends - "My children (Omer for years before Prince was born, and they probably were closer as Omer got older), my family and my brothers and sisters." And what about the answer he gave when asked if he was sick of Randy? Randy found tom Mesereau. I use Mesereau as one of my passwords in my job. Love the man.
Some people need to get over themselves, and worry about their own relationships with their own family members. I mean really! Leave MJ and his family alone. How can people talk about his family so disrepectfully at times, and then think he reads the board? Weird indeed.
After all, the GERALDO interview stands tall by itself as it pertains to this subjject. Read or listen to what the man said himself about how he feels about his siblings, and his father, for that matter. THOSE ARE THE LAST WORD WE GOT FROM MJ ON HIS FAMILY AND THEY STAND TALL BY THEMSELVES. Other than the last words in this post.
"I'm very much like my father in a lot of ways." (Wow - not just some ways but a lot) He taught us to be courageous, confident and to believe in our ideals. And no matter what, no STAR is ever too far to reach, and you never give up." I wonder if all of our fathers taught us that and we believed it? See, even when some people hear MJ speak truth to power as he did in the Geraldo interview (Oxford Speech), etc, they still don't want to believe it, and they wish to put their own spin on it. It won't fly. You need to let the man own his family. He said it is what they were taught. He said it was L.O.V.E. He loves his extended family too, on both sides.
Lol at the interview below. It's from about 1971 or 1972. MJ's laugh is so infectious, and Jermaine laughs like crazy when MJ says, "What else do I like about gals." Some of you will love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NyyZKY7 ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NyyZKY7M7A&feature=player_embedded)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8KeVCD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8KeVCDie0&feature=player_embedded) (full-rapping-with-J5)
The Jacksons Are Coming.
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Also people, MJ IS ALIVE. Some so-called believers should call themselves doubters just to be able to keep up with their positions. Some of us are KNOWERS. We know that MJ is alive, so that should no longer be the issue here. After 21 months, some people are still trying to find clues that he is alive? Come on people!
Hello guest. Unless you are Michael Jackson, there will always be ups and downs in belief because of chaos with this "death" and ongoing controversies. We have to think logical, not blindly believe black or white.
Case in point, his sister-in-law being in the news a lot here lately Doesn't MJ own part of TMZ = The Michael Zone? Even if he doesn't, he is the one running things through TMZ, no question. I mean this is each and every day if he wants to. He many designate, but MJ is such a hands on kind of guy, in my opinion, everything we see come out of TMZ and I also think the X17online.com website also, has Michael Joe Jackson's OFFICIAL STAMP on it. It would not be released unless he wants it to people. Why and at what point do some forget this fact? Why?
Above you say Michael controls TMZ at some point.
Below you say how we can believe TMZ, it is tabloid junkie, MJ wrote the song about media. But then, Michael is trying to prove how people easy believe everything TMZ puts out.
MJ wrote a song title Tabloid Junkie. TMZ = Tabloid Junkie. They were the first to announce his death. MJ is trying to prove how some people will believe any and everything TMZ puts out. Remember always how first the TABLOIDS tried to ruin him by lies and untruths.
I want to get this straight. You are saying Michael has hand on everything that comes out from TMZ, but MJ says don't believe media that tried to ruin his life and wants to prove how people easy believe meda.
Looks like Michael manipulates w/ people through media that he hates,i.e. MJ uses media to ridicule on people , his fans that mostly read & listen about him. That's what it is? :?
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AMEN!! :D
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The people that think Jermaine is out to make a buck are just plain ignorant. Barely a wise gene in their souls. Jermaine is doing this for his brother Michael. MJ is running all shows, and HE is the one that asks everyone to do this or that. They follow his direction/requests. The message (words) will be one MJ wants to get out there in the Universe and public for Hoax purposes. You can believe that. They know that book isn't going to be no blockbuster. MJ is a BILLIONAIRE, many times over. He doesn't need the money. He needs REVENGE. Jermaine doesn't need the money. He needs to help his brother get Revenge and Justice. They are still trying to clear MJ's name concerning both allegations.
Are some of you just plain dumb? MJ can give his siblings money if he wants to. It is his business. Who else is he supposed to share with if not family? Worry about your own broke butts and your lack of creative ability. The Jacksons are loaded with creative ability. Watch their Vareity Show on Tube.
The people that believe the Jackson's are after money are being shortsighted and think that Mike is dead. Just fess up?
Just like he used O-BEE to utter his words. No one can convince me that that wasn't MJ shown on O-BEE's video at 08-10 seconds. He probably sang his part live and fresh. Some folks are still "Stuck in the middle, in 3D." I think he spoke his part live in Jackie's song We Know What's Going On", also. And some of us think, he was on Janet's song, Nothing.
Some people have not connected the DOTS, have no CRITICAL THINKING skills, and never will.
MJ sees his family often. For all of the places some of us believe he has been, i.e, Hat Man, BET Awards, Planet Hollywood last October as a MJ impersonator, and so on, why wouldn't he see and talk to his family members? He is the main planner of this hoax. I think he runs some things by his Pops also. The children went to Las Vegas November 09 for Thanksgiving, and it was reported they went to visit Grandpa, but I bet it was probably to see MJ. MJ is probably there most of the time. T
The family has vehicles with tinted windows, so MJ can come and go to Encino, Las Vegas, etc and therefore, he can use anywhere (in diguise) as a starting point, and travel - ALL Around the World. Hee-hee-hee!
Again, some people are just jealous of MJ and his family. That's what it is. They hate the fact that MJ loves each and every one of his family members. He feels nothing for the ones that talk stupid about his family. They are close to being borderline evil human beings. God knows their hearts. They don't get what MJ stands for and never will. L.O.V.E. and not hate, people.
That's what is going on in the universe right now as we speak, for real. People had better choose if they haven't already. Good vs. evil, God vs. Satan, Right vs. wrong, and so on. Don't even think that the words you write are not written in God's Book, that on Judgement day, He won't be able to weigh your hearts with a feather. Many of you (haters and losers) will be punished for your evil hearts and thoughts.
Again, these folks don't think that MJ is alive and is directing his family members, to include his children, and everr-body else. Too bad.
By the way, below are the words that B. Howard had on like 'Off The Wall', on his website back last summer and into the fall. It then went down, and he brought it back up in January of this year. He was in the picture standing with paintbrush in hand.
Genesis
Adventure
Master
Exellence
There was as space, and second part had:
One
Victorius
Entertainment
Revenge
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GAME OVER. The letters were a mixture of big and small. That is how MJ writes many things. Remember Back does to? No question, those are MJ's words, his Game Plan, and one of the ways he's communicating. He is the only human being that needs a REVENGE. The boy is Brilliant. Too much!
Listen to the below by B. Howard. He says that MJ was hands on when he recorded his CD. He said he promised his mother that it would only take him a year to complete it, and he completed it last June. So how was MJ hands on and what not?
There is another part to this video. He has on same outfit, but the most important part is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbB6SGl5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbB6SGl5KLo&feature=related)
When his website came back up, the third picture had just - VICTORIOUS, ENTERTAINMENT REVENGE. Those Jacksons think they are slick because they left the other off. Then last month, he added all of the words to the background of his twitter page.
If you haven't seen this one of Evan Ross, please watch it. Listen to the end. He made this after 6-25-09. The guy interviewing him is his friend, so this was a set-up/clue type of deal to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgFMX33NFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgFMX33NFk)
So again, I'm a KNOWER. MJ is using all of his loved ones in all of his glory and brilliance. He wants it documented how much he was involved with them. He wants Payback and Revenge. And he trusts his family the most to get it don. And of course, he trusts some close friends and acquaintances, i.e, Teddy Riley and the like.
For the haters of his family, you can talk to their hands, and you know what else you can do.
MJ stated that he was obssessed with creating. Some of us believe you Michael. Keep on keeping on.
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I for one am glad (supervision) was called out. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. She has some nerve with the BS she's always posting about. Then she and a couple others try to lure people to that (visions) thread. I mean, doesn't she know by now that if people want to read that stuff she and others post in there, then they will. They need to stop trying to recruite people to that boring thread.
Who cares what visions she and others have about Michael? Those visions have nothing to do with Mike other than in their own heads and visions. Mike has enough to do to keep up with his own visions. Lol. Get over yourselves visioners.
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Are some of you just plain dumb? MJ can give his siblings money if he wants to. It is his business. Who else is he supposed to share with if not family? Worry about your own broke butts and your lack of creative ability.
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Some people have not connected the DOTS, have no CRITICAL THINKING skills, and never will.
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That's what is going on in the universe right now as we speak, for real. People had better choose if they haven't already. Good vs. evil, God vs. Satan, Right vs. wrong, and so on. Don't even think that the words you write are not written in God's Book, that on Judgement day, He won't be able to weigh your hearts with a feather. Many of you (haters and losers) will be punished for your evil hearts and thoughts.
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So again, I'm a KNOWER
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Absolutely true. Michael is behind every one of the words of his mother Khaterine ... it is very true. She is his mother, and she always will be there beside him, and if necessary she will do whatever it takes for him. I adore Khaterine. And she is a sweet woman, but she is very intelligent. And next to her, his whole family. I am absolutely convinced that his sons, his brothers, and very few friends know that he still lives. And he's right next to his children now.
And yes, we start having in mind ... Michael lives. I do not understand is how someone can doubt that Michael lives.
I love Michael more than 30 years, and of course, Michael "played" a role. Michael invented a "character. " He is one of the most wonderful people of this world, but his best artistic quality is ... actor. More than any other. Michael has played the role of a lifetime. He plays a character, which he invented to hide his true personality. In some ways helped him his makeup, because the "role" not only played the front camera, but in front of certain people, and at times he wanted to do that. He is like Chaplin...(a silly way to explain)
Michael is a born psychologist, has studied the reactions of people, and loves all that.
Except for his family and certain friends, Michael always was "on stage" and when I say this I mean that he is "performing " this "role" continuously.
And that his mind had to be very well appointed ..
He is one of the smartest men ever set foot in this world, and certainly is one of the best actors.
Michael lives. Michael planned all this practically since the birth of his children. He has for years been threatened. And he is protected now.
Oh God .... 50 years ... 50 shows ... it's so obvious ...
His family, always protect him and try to make it clear that he is dead.
They are simply protecting him...
But if he may appear, if ever really can, without endangering his life and his family.
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And yes, we start having in mind ... Michael lives. I do not understand is how someone can doubt that Michael lives.
The proof that many fans, many more than "believers", are still mourning Michael and asknig for justice shows that is not easy to believe that he would fake his death.
He plays a character, which he invented to hide his true personality. In some ways helped him his makeup, because the "role" not only played the front camera, but in front of certain people, and at times he wanted to do that.
What if the "invented character" became the main personality?
But if he may appear, if ever really can
I don´t think that would be happening. Only a very little procentage of fans and supporters believe that he is alive. The reactions can be very negative.
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@ flowergirl, are you the spokesperson of the family or of jermaine?
:lol: your title is misleading
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No, Flowergirl is a very good marketing gal! a bit sectarian in the methods, but can pass.
1st, let´s open the thread with a catchy message. Keep da faith.
2nd, let´s start the post with a controversial subject (this takes hours of forum lurking..eeehhhh), ganging on the latest banns! it will catch the attention!
3rd, create guilt: talk about the family and how stupid people can be not understanding what we all already know btw.
4rd, inflict fear...you will be punished by no other than God..(well, God right now, looking at the world news, has more important issues to take care of than "connecting the dots with critical thinking")
5th, go on with the flow, repeat what we all already know since the hoax started, gain trust
6th, tell you are the one to trust, you are the knower
7th,(the magic number) promote your forum at the end of the final post :D hopefully the catch will be a success
Voilá...clicks are achieved!and with some luck, members as well.
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Well, well then. I think your post could have been more readily accepted had you, yourself not thrown so many left jabs at people with different perspectives. Good points can be made without pointing fingers and labeling people. Stupid, etc. That happened to Michael all the time. Not good. As far as the family and Michael’s money are concerned, I beg to differ. Why should he give his money to family? If he chooses to do so, fine. If not, good for him. And why do you consider posters who speak out about Michael being used financially by his family members and other money grubbing leeches to be “broke butts” with “no creativity" :shock: That’s presumptuous. You can never know from just reading posts to whom you might be speaking, not many of us know the real identities of the majority of people on this forum. TMZ could be anybody. And so could any number of other imposters. You just never know. So I would advise as your thread title imples that you too should "Keep the faith”. In the end, we’ll see where it all leads. Until then, your truth is no better than anyone elses.
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No, Flowergirl is a very good marketing gal! a bit sectarian in the methods, but can pass.
1st, let´s open the thread with a catchy message. Keep da faith.
2nd, let´s start the post with a controversial subject (this takes hours of forum lurking..eeehhhh), ganging on the latest banns! it will catch the attention!
3rd, create guilt: talk about the family and how stupid people can be not understanding what we all already know btw.
4rd, inflict fear...you will be punished by no other than God..(well, God right now, looking at the world news, has more important issues to take care of than "connecting the dots with critical thinking")
5th, go on with the flow, repeat what we all already know since the hoax started, gain trust
6th, tell you are the one to trust, you are the knower
7th,(the magic number) promote your forum at the end of the final post :D hopefully the catch will be a success
Voilá...clicks are achieved!and with some luck, members as well.
Gema you are cracking me up!!!hahahaha! :lol:
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No, Flowergirl is a very good marketing gal! a bit sectarian in the methods, but can pass.
1st, let´s open the thread with a catchy message. Keep da faith.
2nd, let´s start the post with a controversial subject (this takes hours of forum lurking..eeehhhh), ganging on the latest banns! it will catch the attention!
3rd, create guilt: talk about the family and how stupid people can be not understanding what we all already know btw.
4rd, inflict fear...you will be punished by no other than God..(well, God right now, looking at the world news, has more important issues to take care of than "connecting the dots with critical thinking")
5th, go on with the flow, repeat what we all already know since the hoax started, gain trust
6th, tell you are the one to trust, you are the knower
7th,(the magic number) promote your forum at the end of the final post :D hopefully the catch will be a success
Voilá...clicks are achieved!and with some luck, members as well.
Gema you are cracking me up!!!hahahaha! :lol:
hahaha same, 6th is hilarious hahaha you are the knower HAHAHA
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Flowergirl, you certainly know how to grab attention! Strangely familiar writing style though, I'm getting deja vu all over again! ;)
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Totally Trustno1 :D
It´s all for attention :) A.T.T.E.N.T.I.O.N , attention :)
Re;visions thread
They need to stop trying to recruite people to that boring thread
Who cares what visions she and others have about Michael?
Get over yourselves visioners.
The visions thread had too much attention?? :o It has nothing to do with SV´s controversial posts ;) It has to do with all the attention that the thread and the members got -negative or positive- ;)
Tell them that his human natureeeee (http://guitarras.mi-web.es/board/homes/guitarras_mi-web_es/smilies/smiley_singing.gif)
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What gets me sometimes is that there is no Consensus for the most part concerning some issues of this Hoax on this board. A "Unbreakable" truth/fact thread should be started, or at least one where the true blue stick to their theories and guns.
For instance, I'll start with one. How can the newcomers understand what most of the KNOWERS believe to be true when they seem so forgetful and wishy-washy, and not firm and true in their CORE beliefs? Are there any core ones?
1. Did MJ live at Carolwood drive or NOT, folks? If not, then why would there be talk of surveillance tapes? Wouldn't MJ have planted that story? I mean really! The tapes and hard drive parts were made up to fit the hoax/movie.
Case in point. Aren't some of the so-called believers truly acting like non-believers by believing anything TMZ dishes out and up? "Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on TV, don't make it factual." Haven't some gotten that thru their heads by now? MJ is planting EACH AND EVERY STORY from TMZ and in some cases, other rags also, and especially in the beginning (as it pertains to other rags).
I don't think he EVER lived there (LA) at tall. I think the place was rented. He and children might have gone there for Hoax/movie/filming purposes a day or two, but that's it. But then we have some haters still trying to blame MJ's family for the latest story (tapes) on this from TMZ = The Michael Zone. Losers and slowpokes.
2. Do most believe MJ runs TMZ or not? TS indicated that he does? Some of us felt he did before STUDY/TS even showed up, remember? If so, then why do some keep believing everything TMZ writes is the Gospel, and not printed as part of MJ's doing/HIStory? I just don't get it.
Let's keep these two questions/points/wonders at the forefront. There are a few more of course.
1. If MJ didn't live at said house, this talk of tapes/hard drive is fake and was planted by MJ.
2. If MJ runs TMZ, then the premise should be that MJ is the one coming up with articles all of the time, to keep his name in the news, and because he is messing with folks (partly just because he can).
Like O-BEE sung - "You ain't gonna stop MY TEAM. We gone roll like Bigfoot. Can’t stop. Nah I mean?" Btw, listen to the HEARTBEAT that begins their song/video "WBSS." Wonder what that is supposed to signify? Lol MJ probably recorded his LIVE heartbeat. (clue - duh!) I heard that some people do that.
I can see why many newbies wonder what the majority believe to be true on this board. I know what Souza believes, and we believe alike in these examples. How 'bout the majority?
Can not the ASTUTE amongst us understand my frustration, and I'm sure some others concerning the consistency or lack thereof of many issues?
I mean no harm, but I really have to skip over certain comments in threads about a TMZ article/post. The DOTS are not being connected and staying so. Some keep trying to place round pegs into square holes.Btw, Evan Ross was quoted saying that MJ was the one guiding his career in music and with the his CD scheduled to come out before long. He said that late last summer. Well, first song is out. MJ been busy.
http://www.evanrossmusic.com (http://www.evanrossmusic.com)
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, observation, and opinions. What I have read I have found very interesting. I'll need to finish reading later before giving any opinions.
Blessings.
PS - I didn't see the GAME OVER...on B. Howard's site. Thank you for sharing that.
L.O.V.E. is the answer...
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I for one am glad (supervision) was called out. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. She has some nerve with the BS she's always posting about. Then she and a couple others try to lure people to that (visions) thread. I mean, doesn't she know by now that if people want to read that stuff she and others post in there, then they will. They need to stop trying to recruite people to that boring thread.
Who cares what visions she and others have about Michael? Those visions have nothing to do with Mike other than in their own heads and visions. Mike has enough to do to keep up with his own visions. Lol. Get over yourselves visioners. She was also rude to go into Serenity’s Dream Religious Symbolism thread just to pick a fight with her. She is so bitter and negative, and then she ends it with, I Luv u MJ, and other such BS. Rolls eyes.
Also people, MJ IS ALIVE. Some so-called believers should call themselves doubters just to be able to keep up with their positions. Some of us are KNOWERS. We know that MJ is alive, so that should no longer be the issue here. After 21 months, some people are still trying to find clues that he is alive? Come on people!
So....... MJ is alive. Let's start with that premise. Let's list all of the places some of us believe he has appeared, i.e., Dave-Dave on LKL, VMAs, BET Awards, Hat Man, Lady, and on and on. Then why do some people act as if he is living in a cave? He is the DIRECTOR/PRODUCER, Liberian Girl style, so why do some always pipe up with, MJ must now be alive or he is out of pocket, or else this or that wouldn't take place? His base is probably Las Vegas, as father and brother live there. Wonderland is there. Lol
Case in point, his sister-in-law being in the news a lot here lately Doesn't MJ own part of TMZ = The Michael Zone? Even if he doesn't, he is the one running things through TMZ, no question. I mean this is each and every day if he wants to. He many designate, but MJ is such a hands on kind of guy, in my opinion, everything we see come out of TMZ and I also think the X17online.com website also, has Michael Joe Jackson's OFFICIAL STAMP on it. It would not be released unless he wants it to people. Why and at what point do some forget this fact? Why?
MJ wrote a song title Tabloid Junkie. TMZ = Tabloid Junkie. They were the first to announce his death. MJ is trying to prove how some people will believe any and everything TMZ puts out. Remember always how first the TABLOIDS tried to ruin him by lies and untruths. He was so hurt and disappointed that some people belived those lies and untruths from back in the middle eighties folks. I never believed that mess.
MJ owns the Encino property, so to keep his name in the news, HE prepares articles about Latoya owning it, his sister-in-law being a squatter and on and on. Mike is alive. He loves Genevieve and all of her brothers. He probably loves Alexandra also. There is no way he is trying to put her out. It is all a lie just to get people going, and for him to have documented proof how easy it is for people to believe anything they read. She has lived there for twenty years. She is the only other woman to live there along with her daughter, so I can't imagine that Mrs. Jackson would want or need for her to leave. It is a mansion and huge property.
Plus, it IS NOT any of our business what goes on in that house, and that is another thing MJ is documenting. He is probably shaking his head at the ones that seem to get so indignant about something that they have zilch to do with. We need to worry about paying our own mortgages and rents. They reported over 239 million Americans live from paycheck to paycheck. Is that why some people get so wrapped up, sound bitter and angry about Alexandra, because they are upset with their own circumstances? MJ has her back, in my opinion. She is following HIS DIRECTION. She is willing to be slammed in the Tabloids (TMZ) for MJ, because she knows that there is no truth to it and she is acting her part, IMO.
Didn't many people sign a Confidentiality agreement with MJ? This was with MJ, and not anyone else. It's just like some people get upset with the Estate. I mean really! The Estate is MJ. He is running things. He has a telephone. He probablyhas Skype (under another's name), and etc. Remember the Liberian Girl video. Those folks most likely signed one, and on and on.
Didn't the young Rap group that remade (by MJ's request) - I Wanna Be Where You Are, call it a movie? Has anyone ever stopped to think why this Rap group got up on TMZ for A- LIVE interview so fast? Who has pull to be able to make that happen that quickly?
Sometimes it may be hard to fathom that MJ may be behind all of these rumors, lies half-truths and etc, but when believing he is alive, we must also believe that HE is running the Greatest Show on Earth, filming, directing, producing, executing and documenting this Hoax. There should be no question. There is no one more brilliant than him as it pertains to the development and planning of this hoax. I mean no harm, but there are very few people even in this hoax that can reach MJ's Brilliance now or ever. He is just one of a kind.
I agree with Souza as it pertains to her saying that she is tired of all of the whining and what not, because it gets very tedious for one to have to sift through the non-believers and doubters.
Again, let's start with the Premise that MJ is Alive, and then everything else should fall into place. Don't beat yourselves up so much trying to figure out WHY MJ is doing this or that. When I hear some Controversy, and especially coming from TMZ, I just file it in my computer brain and pull it back up as needed. I have never gotten stressed over any TMZ article.
And please show MJ's mother some respect. See, this is what I mean. MJ is alive, so we need to back off of his mother and other family members. She is doing everything he is asking of her. Does anyone still have that (was it NBC) TV interview she gave for the anniversary on around 6-25-10. Notice that we never really hear who was interviewing her. Next thing we know, she is just answering questions. Questions that someone (MJ?) was leading her with. Was this the one when she introduced MJ's Table Book? I think MJ was interviewing her. I know they associated that Mann character with her at the time right? I think he was someone around, but he wasn't the one interviewing her.
I believe like someone on this forum wrote a long time ago. MJ learned a long time ago to keep his friends close but his enemies closer. In other words, he can work with people with checkered pasts, corrupt politicians, frenemies and etc as long as he feels it can aid him in whatever it is he needs to learn about or get done. No one does it quite like our MJ.
Just my humble opinions.
Hi Flowergirl,
Man, I thought I had a sharp tongue, but, I can tell, it's not disrespect, it is all just exasperated, righteous indignation, and I feel your PASSION!
I LOVE the way you paint MJ, so powerful and absolutely in control!! I see it all, too---in fact, when I got to the parts I magnified, it felt like your entire post would be something MJ would say about himself, if he weren't such a self-possessed gentleman (or waxing politic? ;) ) You are either an exceptional Watcher, or you really are a Knower(I mean from up close). You get love. You get family. You get privacy. What a no-apologies, refreshing read!
Pouncers and mockers aside, I LOVED reading this 8-) :!:
(Just give me a LOUD heads up if you find you need to swing that tongue at me, ever!! ;) :lol: )
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, observation, and opinions. What I have read I have found very interesting. I'll need to finish reading later before giving any opinions.
Blessings.
PS - I didn't see the GAME OVER...on B. Howard's site. Thank you for sharing that.
L.O.V.E. is the answer...
Thank you - voiceforthesilent. You got me on B. Howard's website. I printed it out when he initially had those words on a picture on his website. I'll try to scan it.
You're right though, for it is not there. There were five pics to correspond to those five dots upper right hand corner. Maybe MJ or close person told them we had discovered it, so they took it off. Lol.
Meanwhile and like I said in earlier post, it was on third picture that came up. Now it is nowhere but on the background of his twitter page. Please look closely on page.
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BRAVO¡¡¡:
"MJ learned a long time ago to keep his friends close but his enemies closer"
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@Flowergirl
I haven't got much time at the moment, I'm giving you my first thoughts after reading your posts. I'm with you on many things. As a matter of fact you expressed a lot of thoughts, which are settled in a corner of my head but didn't come out. You wrote a sorta excerpt of thoughts and feelings I have concerning MJ. I'm glad about that, because sometimes I'm stuggling with the way how to express myself in English. Thank you. I'm coming back later to give a reaction on your post(s). '
Blessings from a Dutch flowergirl :D
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Good lord! I havent had the time to read the entire thread, but it seems the contradiction starts from the first words. How can anyone criticize someone else for jumping into another thread & providing their opinions & yet start this thread, not offering their opinion, but insisting they are not only correct, but that others would be "dumb" to think anything else.
Luckily, Michael did not always listen to what others said!
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It's her, I love your posts also. I especially loved the one you wrote many moons ago where you correlated some of the things MJ was doing or was about to a movie you saw as a child, as you loved to watch old movies. What was it again? Was it an animated character movie?
I always want to come from "A place with (A) name", LOVE. I wish we all could love each other regardless of ethnicity. Aren't we learning as we speak that it has never been about race or religion, and that is should have always been about US, God and the Universe (Cosmos)? I hope so. I think many have awakened and are awakening to that fact now. Unity, Love and Co-Creation should be the keys to our (Humans) future.
I love the article and opinion below. The website link is after it, and one needs to scroll down some to find it on website. I believe the Mayans as it pertains to US riding the 9th Wave - from 3-9-11 thru 10-28-11. It's not 12-12-12 thru 12-21-12 as some would lead us to believe, and live in fear of. I BeLIEve, we all will meet at the same time in our (Human) leap in the evolution of Consciousness. That's what it is about.
Article:
"For those who think 2010 was a significant year of change, hang on! Before 2011 is over, we will look back at 2010 and think we were standing still.
Many will rightly ask, "On what do you base this prediction?"
According to the best interpretation of Mayan Calendar information, the entire ninth step in the evolution of consciousness will take place in 260 days: basically, from March through October 2011. Unlike most Mayan calendar teachers, Dr. Carl Calleman does not buy into the December 21, 2012 theories. He studied the information as a scientist, and came to a different conclusion, with October 28, 2011 being the completion date. Many other teachers who have looked at his information are in agreement. I am one of those, purely on the basis of resonance.
Each of the nine steps in the evolution of consciousness has a theme. The theme for the eighth step that we are just completing is that ethics and integrity would overtake the lust for power and greed. I think it's fair to say that we have witnessed many examples that capture even mainstream attention in regard to the financial system of the world, a system rife with fraud and corruption. Once something becomes known, it can never again be stuffed back into the box. What is revealed is revealed; and the lies will no longer work. This is not to say that there are no longer any people who believe the lies. Many are so set in their ways that they would not recognize the truth if you beat them over the head with it. Their disillusionment will continue in 2011; at least until.... (We'll get to that soon.)
The theme for 2011 is conscious co-creation. Together, we will be creating an entirely new system based on the paradigm of openness and transparency. It is also a paradigm of unity.
Unity is difficult to imagine when you look at the world around us. Opinions are as diverse as the multitude of perspectives from which we view reality. How can we possibly attain unity within such a diverse field of experience and observation?
There have always been unseen energies that impinge upon our visible reality. Many world religions have referred to these energies as angels. In more modern vernacular, these are referred to as extraterrestrials, or ETs for short. Those who look at the evidence, going way back in human history, come to the conclusion that there are many ancient records of Earth being visited by beings from the sky. Many cultures referred to these visitors as gods.
Open-minded scientists and researchers in today's world recognize an exponential increase in the activity of beings from other dimensions that are involved in events happening now on planet Earth. Yes, there has been a strong desire to keep this information from the public on behalf of the powers that be – the proverbial Man behind the curtain. However, many nations have already released their UFO files to the public. The United States still has not followed suit, with its leaders grasping with great determination to prevent widespread disclosure from occurring. What are they afraid of?
The truth is, our history, as we have been told it, is a lie. From the very foundations of world religions to the structures of modern governments, the truth has not been told. Irrefutable evidence and revelation of facts will transform everything. Perhaps that will be the big change in 2011. Disclosure, not only of the of the fact that we are not alone in the universe, but more importantly the reality of the deep involvement of ETs throughout our history, will shift the paradigm of reality virtually overnight. Faced with undeniable proof, mankind will have little choice but to see the world with new eyes. It will be the overwhelming display, often referred to as first contact, of ET presence that will create unity very quickly.
Not everyone is ready to buy into this; nevertheless, the critical mass has already been exceeded. What is the critical mass? Scientists tell us it is the square root of 1% of the world's population. Rounded off to the nearest thousand, that would be a little over 8000 people*. That's all it takes to shift the entire human race. From a biblical perspective, perhaps it's the 144,000, that enigmatic number that brings the Kingdom of Heaven to earth. In truth, I think even that number has been exceeded. Whatever the number, we have crossed the threshold of the point of no return. The Word has been made flesh, and the manifestation of the Golden Age is here now, unfolding day by day.
As a seer, I can sense the struggle taking place right now in the human population. I know how hard it is for people of many faiths to even consider the possibility that some of their precious doctrines may be in error. Nevertheless, incongruent beliefs will, of necessity, fall apart. So much that has been built into our belief systems has been included for a specific purpose: to disempower the average person and keep them subservient to the control of those who would be masters over them.
The big lie has been easy to sell, since it coincides so well with our physical observation. That lie is separation. I look at my body; then I look at yours. Obviously, we are not one. I am me; and you are you. And every other person is also separate from me and you. However, this paradigm presupposes that only that which is visible is real. Modern mystics, called quantum physicists, have demonstrated scientifically that the world we see is only a small fraction of the world that exists. In other words, reality is mostly invisible to us.
That which we have been unable – and in many cases unwilling – to see is going to be made abundantly clear to everyone as the invisible becomes more obvious. Can you see, or at least begin to see, how quickly this revelation will be able to shift everything? It will be as if higher compartments of our minds are suddenly opened, revealing our blind spots. Most of us will ask ourselves: "Why couldn't I see this before? It's so obvious!" ... Everything in its time!
The hidden treasure within each of us will soon be revealed to all except the most hardhearted and stubborn minded individuals. That treasure is what the world religions have always pointed to. It is the Christ, or the Divine within each of us. Can you begin to imagine what we will be able to create together, knowing that the God Spirit is in everyone; and it has never had anything to do with one's religion? Whether you can imagine it yet or not, this is what will happen, or at least begin to happen on a large scale in 2011. This is why 2011 will make 2010 look as if it wasn't going anywhere; yet, in truth, each step in the evolution of consciousness builds for the next step. Everything that ever has been, has been building to a grand climax of ecstatic revelation: the revelation of Christ as ALL and in all.
The promises of God are: Yes… and Amen (so be it). The Creator has always had a purpose for Creation. That purpose has not always been easy to determine, and even more difficult to see. As the plan has unfolded, most of us have only been able to see the chaos. Conflict has seemed to rule the day; and making sense of the whole thing has been well-nigh impossible. Yet, those who have been able to see from the other side have always told us that there was meaning. These were able to see, if only in flashing glimpses, that a grand plan was underway. We've called them prophets or shamans; and each of them with an honest heart always told what they felt, saw or heard. They have spoken in every culture and in every age. They were the Voice of God, inspired to speak to their generation.
I'm not about to tell you that any of them were perfect – far from it. They were men and women, just like you and me, who had to deal with all of the perplexities of their individual lives and still make sense of their dreams and visions that often contradicted what they saw in the physical world. These are those that have held the dream alive within the human family. As the Spirit of the Living God brings these gifted men and women together, a new world will be born. These are the co-creators responsible for the time in which we live; for we are the ones that have searched for a city that has foundations, whose builder and maker is God. We are the ones who have often been despised and rejected of men.
Yet, in a very real sense, we are only eyes in the body. We are important, yes, we are. However, we cannot do it alone. Everyone must find his and her part in this Body of Humanity that is being transformed, day by day, in ways that will manifest more clearly in 2011. We are talking about a new humanity here. That which was impossible before will be soon possible again. We're about to see the Son of God with new eyes; and as I look at this beautiful creature made without hands, my eyes fill with tears. The whole cosmos marvels at the magnificence of the Word Made Flesh, multiplied to infinity – a multitude that no man can number (or at least count). To me, this is the real meaning of the second coming of Christ. And all the world shall see Him, and be like Him.
Let each with eyes to see and a heart to love rejoice. The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. 2011 is our year. "Behold, I make all things new!" says the Lord Most High. Namaste.
* The square root of 1% of 7 billion people is 8,367. The estimated population, however, is 6.67 billion; and the squart root of 1% is 8,167."
© by Ron Van Dyke, Paradox Publications,Wednesday, December 29, 2010. All rights reserved.
http://www.metagroups.info/Ron%27sArticles.htm (http://www.metagroups.info/Ron%27sArticles.htm)
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It's her, I love your posts also. I especially loved the one you wrote many moons ago where you correlated some of the things MJ was doing or was about to a movie you saw as a child, as you loved to watch old movies. What was it again? Was it an animated character movie?
How nice of you to say so! Thank you. It was called Once Upon A Time starring Cary Grant. I just realized I didn't explain that the only thing animated in the movie was the MJ-like Butterfly, "Curly".
Too many coincidences, I KNOW young MJ saw this film. ;)
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872#p194103 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=7872#p194103)
Now...I gotta read the rest of your post, here. :)
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The people that think Jermaine is out to make a buck are just plain ignorant. Barely a wise gene in their souls. Jermaine is doing this for his brother Michael. MJ is running all shows, and HE is the one that asks everyone to do this or that. They follow his direction/requests. The message (words) will be one MJ wants to get out there in the Universe and public for Hoax purposes. You can believe that. They know that book isn't going to be no blockbuster. MJ is a BILLIONAIRE, many times over. He doesn't need the money. He needs REVENGE. Jermaine doesn't need the money. He needs to help his brother get Revenge and Justice. They are still trying to clear MJ's name concerning both allegations.
Are some of you just plain dumb? MJ can give his siblings money if he wants to. It is his business. Who else is he supposed to share with if not family? Worry about your own broke butts and your lack of creative ability. The Jacksons are loaded with creative ability. Watch their Vareity Show on Tube. :lol: :lol: ;) 8-)
The people that believe the Jackson's are after money are being shortsighted and think that Mike is dead. Just fess up?
Just like he used O-BEE to utter his words. No one can convince me that that wasn't MJ shown on O-BEE's video at 08-10 seconds. He probably sang his part live and fresh. Some folks are still "Stuck in the middle, in 3D." I think he spoke his part live in Jackie's song We Know What's Going On", also. And some of us think, he was on Janet's song, Nothing.
Some people have not connected the DOTS, have no CRITICAL THINKING skills, and never will.
MJ sees his family often. For all of the places some of us believe he has been, i.e, Hat Man, BET Awards, Planet Hollywood last October as a MJ impersonator, and so on, why wouldn't he see and talk to his family members? He is the main planner of this hoax. I think he runs some things by his Pops also. :arrow: RIGHT! :!: The children went to Las Vegas November 09 for Thanksgiving, and it was reported they went to visit Grandpa, but I bet it was probably to see MJ. MJ is probably there most of the time. T
The family has vehicles with tinted windows, so MJ can come and go to Encino, Las Vegas, etc and therefore, he can use anywhere (in diguise) as a starting point, and travel - ALL Around the World. Hee-hee-hee!
:idea: :idea: :idea: Again, some people are just jealous of MJ and his family. That's what it is. They hate the fact that MJ loves each and every one of his family members. He feels nothing for the ones that talk stupid about his family. They are close to being borderline evil human beings. God knows their hearts. They don't get what MJ stands for and never will. L.O.V.E. and not hate, people.
That's what is going on in the universe right now as we speak, for real. People had better choose if they haven't already. Good vs. evil, God vs. Satan, Right vs. wrong, and so on. Don't even think that the words you write are not written in God's Book, that on Judgement day, He won't be able to weigh your hearts with a feather. Many of you (haters and losers) will be punished for your evil hearts and thoughts.
Again, these folks don't think that MJ is alive and is directing his family members, to include his children, and everr-body else. Too bad.
By the way, below are the words that B. Howard had on like 'Off The Wall', on his website back last summer and into the fall. It then went down, and he brought it back up in January of this year. He was in the picture standing with paintbrush in hand.
:arrow: :arrow: Genesis
Adventure
Master
Exellence
There was as space, and second part had:
:arrow: One
Victorius
Entertainment
Revenge
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GAME OVER. The letters were a mixture of big and small. That is how MJ writes many things. Remember Back does to? No question, those are MJ's words, his Game Plan, and one of the ways he's communicating. He is the only human being that needs a REVENGE. The boy is Brilliant. Too much!
Listen to the below by B. Howard. He says that MJ was hands on when he recorded his CD. He said he promised his mother that it would only take him a year to complete it, and he completed it last June. So how was MJ hands on and what not?
There is another part to this video. He has on same outfit, but the most important part is below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbB6SGl5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbB6SGl5KLo&feature=related)
When his website came back up, the third picture had just - VICTORIOUS, ENTERTAINMENT REVENGE. Those Jacksons think they are slick because they left the other off. Then last month, he added all of the words to the background of his twitter page.
If you haven't seen this one of Evan Ross, please watch it. Listen to the end. He made this after 6-25-09. The guy interviewing him is his friend, so this was a set-up/clue type of deal to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgFMX33NFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbgFMX33NFk)
So again, I'm a KNOWER. MJ is using all of his loved ones in all of his glory and brilliance. He wants it documented how much he was involved with them. He wants Payback and Revenge. And he trusts his family the most to get it don. And of course, he trusts some close friends and acquaintances, i.e, Teddy Riley and the like.
For the haters of his family, you can talk to their hands, and you know what else you can do.
MJ stated that he was obssessed with creating. Some of us believe you Michael. Keep on keeping on.
Amen, Amen, Amen. You've got it going on with your posts, flowergirl. Thank you for a refreshing dose of righteous indignation. Michael is bold, beautiful and brilliant. That's clear to all who really BELIEVE in him as I do forever and always. MJ's family is awesome.
I am so glad to see the Mayan info...I happened to have sent this same info to a friend just the other day. It's very enlightening. Thank you for posting.
the critical mass has already been exceeded. What is the critical mass? Scientists tell us it is the square root of 1% of the world's population. Rounded off to the nearest thousand, that would be a little over 8000 people*. That's all it takes to shift the entire human race. From a biblical perspective, perhaps it's the 144,000, that enigmatic number that brings the Kingdom of Heaven to earth. In truth, I think even that number has been exceeded. Whatever the number, we have crossed the threshold of the point of no return. The Word has been made flesh, and the manifestation of the Golden Age is here now, unfolding day by day.
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Imma 'keep watchin' as Michael continues to show us the way to go...
And for you, a song that reminds me of your name: [youtube:1203wofl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMjE8jJGJ0A[/youtube:1203wofl] 8-)
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Ya'll have such vivid imaginations.....
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Ahh, thanks It's Her. That was it. Curly is one bad mama jamma. Lol Great post. I think I printed it out, but have to look for it. No, I'll print it out from here. That'll do. Thanks girlfriend.
Thanks SoilderofLOVE. Give me your email and I'll send you something that will light your fire and blow your mind. I'm not sure most on here could handle it. And wow, you sent your friend the same article? Look out 9th Wave, for here we come.
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Yes, this 9th Wave is so exciting. Three things to be totally honest with you:
1) my colleague is a scholar of Mayan history and art and she mentioned the 12/21 date is wrong and I told my friend. On March 9th my friend, (surprisingly a non-believer in the hoax but our discussions about spirituality have not ceased for over 20 years), sent me this http://matarikidimension.wordpress.com/ ... ciousness/ (http://matarikidimension.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/9th-wave-of-unity-consciousness/)
2) I sometimes listen to a radio stationed called Coast-to-Coast and I first learned of Ron Van Dyke there but I was initially interested in a letter he wrote to his mother about Christianity
3) I was connecting some things Charlie Sheen said about 9/11 to something RVD said about 9/11 and then I came across the article you posted, which I sent to my friend. I was :o when you posted it yet loving the synergy... ;)
I've been wondering if Back's talk about the 'NEW Seven Day Theory' is related to 9th Wave...
I'd love to see more to ride this wave and connect the dots... Thank you, flowergirl.
How can I send my email to you without broadcasting it? It appears that I cannot send you a PM...
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@Flowergirl
Since you claim yourself a knower, do you know where Michael lives & when he will be back? :roll:
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This thread is becoming like the visions thread :o :o but way more cultish :o
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Yay!
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Remember what our parents said: don´t share your info with strangers
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Remember what our parents said: don´t share your info with strangers
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I'm a grown woman, Gema. I know how to handle my business, and my safety, but thank you very much for caring.
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SoilderofLOVE, I read up on that website you posted and up on Mr. Calleman a while ago. I think I'd seen his name from the below link. Have you read it? It is an outstanding piece. Some believe in the 2012 date, and the author cites some sources as it pertains to subject at hand.
Google an article about this author concerning, check this out: He wrote an article in 1984 or so, right. Well, Donald Rumsfeld and them, pulled that article back to 1974 or so and read it. In other words, there really is such a thing as time travel and the like. Google his namd, an article by him, and the words Time Travel. 1n 1974, they wanted to read an article by this author. I forgot the subject, but you'll luck up on it I'm sure. I can check Monday, for I'm getting ready to get off work.
I like to read and file, indeed. Please let me get back with you on the email address situation. I just have to send you a link. Have a good one.
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in- ... ine-part-1 (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/are-you-on-a-2012-13-catastrophic-timeline-or-are-you-on-a-2012-13-positive-future-timeline-part-1)
Kiddies, I'm not the only one that refers to myself as a Knower. Just because you all aren't knowers that MJ is alive and are still trying to figure it out, why should the ones of us that believe/know within our total beings that he is alive be called out? That's ludicrious. It is not an issue for me. I wish we could cut it with the is he alive or not stuff. Please!
I've believed it since the beginning. I knew that nurse Cherylin (sp?) was lying when I saw her on LKL or wherever she first showed up. Of course, I was still reeling and trying to grasp it all, but hearing her put some faith in my heart and soul. I was like - bull-shyt. Lol
In other words, I firmed it up by reading up on the old hoax forum, but since 18 months ago, I'm a knower. And just like many folks are all over the world.
I mean, here is another thing. MJ SINGS ABOUT DOCTOR MURRAY - on his record Smooth Criminal, which I didn't notice until watching (MagicalXscapism's) video. Now, he must be on the inside IMO. See when I connect a dot, I keep it connected. C'mon now! Molasses is not my middle name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVSRzoKi ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVSRzoKiA68&feature=related)
I'm just a friend of MJ's and family from 1969. That's how long I've followed them. Tis' all. I love them all. No one is perfect. God is our ultimate judge. And so on and so forth.
On a very serious note. If anyone here is related to MJ and/or is close to him, (TS), please speak to the family about moving everyone to Las Vegas or somewhere. (MJ probably is on it) Radiation has already been detected on the west coast. And some are talking about a MAJOR quake happening in San Fran or LA by next week. They say some passengers arriving from Japan are making the detectors go off in Chicago and elsewhere.
My prayers go out to everyone in Japan, and of course to those on the west coast.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/scien ... .html?_r=2 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/17/science/17plume.html?_r=2)
http://www.drudgereport.com (http://www.drudgereport.com)
Funny video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s0v3Bwc5SY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s0v3Bwc5SY)
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I mean, here is another thing. MJ SINGS ABOUT DOCTOR MURRAY - on his record Smooth Criminal, which I didn't notice until watching (MagicalXscapism's) video. Now, he must be on the inside IMO. See when I connect a dot, I keep it connected. C'mon now! Molasses is not my middle name.
It says: Mouth to mouth resucitation :lol: not Doctor Murray
I'm just a friend of MJ's and family from 1969. That's how long I've followed them. Tis' all. I love them all. No one is perfect. God is our ultimate judge. And so on and so forth.
On a very serious note. If anyone here is related to MJ and/or is close to him, (TS), please speak to the family about moving everyone to Las Vegas or somewhere.
If you are a friend, tell him directly. Why to ask for a MJ relative in this hoax forum to "save Michael"? :lol:
You seem to love pulling our strings don´t ya 8-)
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I for one am glad (supervision) was called out. Thank you, thank you, and thank you. She has some nerve with the BS she's always posting about. Then she and a couple others try to lure people to that (visions) thread. I mean, doesn't she know by now that if people want to read that stuff she and others post in there, then they will. They need to stop trying to recruite people to that boring thread.
Who cares what visions she and others have about Michael? Those visions have nothing to do with Mike other than in their own heads and visions. Mike has enough to do to keep up with his own visions. Lol. Get over yourselves visioners. She was also rude to go into Serenity’s Dream Religious Symbolism thread just to pick a fight with her. She is so bitter and negative, and then she ends it with, I Luv u MJ, and other such BS. Rolls eyes.
That is of course your opinion. Personally, I don’t feel like talking about others in the forum, sorry that’s not my style.
Also people, MJ IS ALIVE. Some so-called believers should call themselves doubters just to be able to keep up with their positions. Some of us are KNOWERS. We know that MJ is alive, so that should no longer be the issue here. After 21 months, some people are still trying to find clues that he is alive? Come on people!
I consider myself a BELIEVER, I don’t need to convince myself and I often think “come on people” MJ is ALIVE. A year ago a was a BELIEVER with doubts, I got more and more convinced mostly because of this forum AND last summer when I was in the States I got completely convinced. Call it a feeling or intuition. Though I can’t say “come on people” because they’re not me and I think it’s a bit too presumptious to decide whether they should be a KNOWER by now. I understand your frustration though. Our mission is to increase the amount of believers/knowers.
So....... MJ is alive. Let's start with that premise. Let's list all of the places some of us believe he has appeared, i.e., Dave-Dave on LKL, VMAs, BET Awards, Hat Man, Lady, and on and on. Then why do some people act as if he is living in a cave? He is the DIRECTOR/PRODUCER, Liberian Girl style, so why do some always pipe up with, MJ must now be alive or he is out of pocket, or else this or that wouldn't take place? His base is probably Las Vegas, as father and brother live there. Wonderland is there. Lol
MJ is the DIRECTOR/PRODUCER of several projects, he’s a very innovative and creative thinker, I’d add tutor, because I believe he is the one who’s an inspiration and uplifting spirit for promising singers/dancers.
Las Vegas could be his working base, with emphasis on working because Encino, Neverland and perhaps Europe are his private base.
Case in point, his sister-in-law being in the news a lot here lately Doesn't MJ own part of TMZ = The Michael Zone? Even if he doesn't, he is the one running things through TMZ, no question. I mean this is each and every day if he wants to. He many designate, but MJ is such a hands on kind of guy, in my opinion, everything we see come out of TMZ and I also think the X17online.com website also, has Michael Joe Jackson's OFFICIAL STAMP on it. It would not be released unless he wants it to people. Why and at what point do some forget this fact? Why?
Well, I was and am still aware of that. I wrote somewhere in this forum that TMZ is a retrospective source for MJ. A sorta media mirror project of action and reaction. Feeding news/lies to the public and other tabloid/news sources and study their reaction. Interesting for a docutainment program, which will present the media trap in which people fall all the time, personal background and prejudice are important influencing factors. Especially this forum is an interesting study.
MJ wrote a song title Tabloid Junkie. TMZ = Tabloid Junkie. They were the first to announce his death. MJ is trying to prove how some people will believe any and everything TMZ puts out. Remember always how first the TABLOIDS tried to ruin him by lies and untruths. He was so hurt and disappointed that some people belived those lies and untruths from back in the middle eighties folks. I never believed that mess.
Neither did I, yet I believe that MJ sometimes leaked intentionally info/rumors (not lies) to the press to stay in the spotlights, which I consider as clever marketing moves.
MJ owns the Encino property, so to keep his name in the news, HE prepares articles about Latoya owning it, his sister-in-law being a squatter and on and on. Mike is alive. He loves Genevieve and all of her brothers. He probably loves Alexandra also. There is no way he is trying to put her out. It is all a lie just to get people going, and for him to have documented proof how easy it is for people to believe anything they read. She has lived there for twenty years. She is the only other woman to live there along with her daughter, so I can't imagine that Mrs. Jackson would want or need for her to leave. It is a mansiona dn huge property.
In a TMZ thread I expressed some irritation about the frequent TMZ posts of family rumors and that we don’t know the whole truth so why should we speculate. Again a study case?
Plus, it IS NOT any of our business what goes on in that house, and that is another thing MJ is documenting. He is probably shaking his heads at the ones that seem to get so indignant about something that they have zilch to do with. We need to worry about paying our own mortgages and rents. They reported over 239 million Americans live from paycheck to paycheck. Is that why some people get so wrapped up, sound bitter and angry about Alexandra, because they are upset with their own circumstances? MJ has her back, in my opinion. She is following HIS DIRECTION. She is willing to be slammed in the Tabloids (TMZ) for MJ, because she knows that there is no truth to it and she is acting her part, IMO.
As I wrote before in a TMZ thread, if MJ was dead Alejandra wouldn’t be staying in the house, someone is holding her there for a good reason. MJ.
Didn't many people sign a Confidentiality agreement with MJ? This was with MJ, and not anyone else. It's just like some people get upset with the Estate. I mean really! The Estate is MJ. He is running things. He has a telephone. He probablyhas Skype (under another's name), and etc. Remember the Liberian Girl video. Those folks most likely signed one, and on and on.
Yes the Estate IS MJ. TMZ (MJ) did a great job to spread confusion. I saw many :? :? The Confidentiality Agreement is necessary, though I’m sure that many people are completely loyal to MJ and feel honored to help him.
Didn't the young Rap group that remade (by MJ's request) - I Wanna Be Where You Are, call it a movie? Has anyone ever stopped to think why this Rap group got up on TMZ for A- LIVE interview so fast? Who has pull to be able to make that happen that quickly?
Sometimes it may be hard to fathom that MJ may be behind all of these rumors, lies half-truths and etc, but when believing he is alive, we must also believe that HE is running the Greatest Show on Earth, filming, directing, producing, executing and documenting this Hoax. There should be no question. There is no one more brilliant than him as it pertains to the development and planning of this hoax. I mean no harm, but there are very few people even in this hoax that can reach MJ's Brilliance now or ever. He is just one of a kind.
Yes he is
I agree with Souza as it pertains to her saying that she is tired of all of the whining and what not, because it gets very tedious for one to have to sift through the non-believers and doubters.
Again, let's start with the Premise that MJ is Alive, and then everything else should fall into place. Don't beat yourselves up so much trying to figure out WHY MJ is doing this or that. When I hear some Controversy, and especially coming from TMZ, I just file it in my computer brain and pull it back up as needed. I have never gotten stressed over any TMZ article. Neither do I, yet excitement or interest.
And please show MJ's mother some respect. See, this is what I mean. MJ is alive, so we need to back off of his mother and other family members. She is doing everything he is asking of her. Does anyone still have that (was it NBC) TV interview she gave for the anniversary on around 6-25-10. Notice that we never really hear who was interviewing her. Next thing we know, she is just answering questions. Questions that someone (MJ?) was leading her with. Was this the one when she introduced MJ's Table Book? I think MJ was interviewing her. I know they associated that Mann character with her at the time right? I think he was someone around, but he wasn't the one interviewing her.
I suppose you mean this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juDMFspw ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juDMFspwuzs&feature=related)
Interesting, first I thought Sonia Lowe of Vintage Pop was the interviewer. Now I watched the interview again I realize that she’s only demonstrating the merchandise, the interviewer could be MJ, because I don’t hear the voice of the interviewer. That’s odd.
I believe like someone on this forum wrote a long time ago. MJ learned a long time ago to keep his friends close but his enemies closer. In other words, he can work with people with checkered pasts, corrupt politicians, frenemies and etc as long as he feels it can aid him in whatever it is he needs to learn about or get done. No one does it quite like our MJ.
He’s a very strong personality with a high sense of intuition with the unique ability to turn negativity into positivity, which isn’t easy in this world.
Just my humble opinions.
Thank you again for your clear post.
"I've learned that whenever I decide something with an open heart, I usually make the right decision."
— Maya Angelou
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by flowergirl:
Plus, it IS NOT any of our business what goes on in that house, and that is another thing MJ is documenting. He is probably shaking his heads at the ones that seem to get so indignant about something that they have zilch to do with. We need to worry about paying our own mortgages and rents. They reported over 239 million Americans live from paycheck to paycheck. Is that why some people get so wrapped up, sound bitter and angry about Alexandra, because they are upset with their own circumstances? MJ has her back, in my opinion. She is following HIS DIRECTION. She is willing to be slammed in the Tabloids (TMZ) for MJ, because she knows that there is no truth to it and she is acting her part, IMO.
In the forward of The King and Dr. Nick: What Really Happened to Elvis and Me by Dr. George Nichopoulos, Dave Marsh writes: "Some people want to believe Elvis a failure because admitting the magnitude of his success would make their own shortcomings unbearable. Others want to see Elvis as a king, some kind of savior, because granting him such stature places him outside the common realm, beyond criticism but also beyond emulation. Either way, those who hold these simplistic views are exempt from having to live up to the great challenge lives such as Elvis Presley's present to us: the challenge of seizing the chance to invent ourselves and, in the process, reinvent the world."
Thanks for the link, fg. I'll take a good look: exopolitics by Webre. Hmmmm. He sounds familiar to me but I don't know why. I'll read. Blessings.
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Rachel1958 wrote:
Michael has played the role of a lifetime. He plays a character, which he invented to hide his true personality. In some ways helped him his makeup, because the "role" not only played the front camera, but in front of certain people, and at times he wanted to do that. He is like Chaplin...(a silly way to explain)
Why? I don´t think it´s a silly way to explain. I understand what you mean with Chaplin. I found this about Charlie Chaplin, I think it´s interesting.
Charlie Chaplin
challenges and difficulties
He is very self-conscious and has a great need for ego-affirmation and praise. Expressing himself freely and openly is not easy for Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin tends to work hard at playing and "having fun", rather than being light-hearted and spontaneous. Developing self-love and self-acceptance regardless of his "performance" is an important task for Charlie.
His attitude toward religion, philosophy, and politics is very conservative and possibly narrow or rigid. On the one hand, Charlie Chaplin may believe in nothing that is speculative or intangible, requiring proof for any idea presented to him. Each idea is thoroughly and systematically examined. On the other hand, Charlie may tenaciously cling to his grand philosophical or metaphysical beliefs and opinions, refusing to modify them or to be open and receptive to others' insights and perspectives.
His overall outlook on life is serious, and Charlie Chaplin may feel that life or God will punish him if he does not watch his steps!
Charlie Chaplin tends to suppress his feelings and may be a bit inhibited in love relationships. Often times he may feel rejected or he may give the impression of rejecting others himself. Perhaps his mother or father has a difficult time showing their affection.
Somewhat shy, Charlie finds it difficult to relate to people and tends to withdraw from others. Since it is hard for Charlie Chaplin to establish relationships, he would rather be by himself. Charlie likes everything simple or plain and prefers a more humble and secluded life.
A bit stubborn and self-willed, Charlie Chaplin persists no matter what obstacles he has to overcome. He has great endurance and strength and he forces himself to work very hard. Charlie Chaplin could be somewhat one-sided in the pursuit of his objectives.
Now we will discuss patterns of behavior which Charlie Chaplin instinctively and habitually reverts to when under stress - a mostly subconscious process that he is apt to over indulge in because it is so familiar and hence easy for him. The direction Charlie Chaplin needs to follow in order to develop balance, greater awareness, and wholeness is also described.
When under stress, Charlie Chaplin is apt to shut off the flow of his emotions and ignore his needs and feelings in order to do what he perceives as his duty or simply what the practical realities of the situation dictate. This can lead to a certain rigidity and inflexibility. If overdone, self-control, self-discipline, or an exaggerated concern over what society, family or others expect of him, makes life more of a burden than an adventure.
Fostering his tender, caring, feminine, and nurturing aspects is an important step in Charlie Chaplin's growth. Charlie Chaplin needs to learn how to nourish and lovingly tend to both himself and others. Letting himself be taken care of sometimes is okay!
It is in fostering a personal vision or philosophy of life, whether through religious or philosophical studies, education or the wisdom of distant lands or cultures, that Charlie Chaplin is most likely to wrestle with these issues. Charlie Chaplin needs to cultivate the qualities described above in this endeavor. Long distance communication and involvement with foreigners is likely to be significant to Chaplin.
http://famous-relationships.topsynergy. ... lenges.asp (http://famous-relationships.topsynergy.com/Charlie_Chaplin/Challenges.asp)
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SoilderofLOVE, you probably have heard of him. Anyway, the article I was referring to is below. It wasn't the authors' paper. It was his Book.
"In 2005, with the publication of the soft cover version of my book Exopolitics, I became more aware of how complex it has become to function amidst the dualistic consciousness of the national security state. When I originally wrote the book Exopolitics in 1999 (presumably in 8th wave Galactic consciousness), I had no conscious concept or knowledge of the fact that a secret U.S. government DARPA time travel project – Project Pegasus – had teleported my book via Tesla-based time travel from 2005 to at least 1971."
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in- ... sciousness (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/good-news-universe-singularity-now-emanating-pre-wave-energy-for-enlightened-unity-consciousness)
http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in- ... cs-of-9-11 (http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/secret-darpa-time-travel-program-may-hold-key-to-understanding-the-deep-politics-of-9-11)
http://unhypnotize.com/articles-newslet ... lower.html (http://unhypnotize.com/articles-newsletters/10386-dr-david-lewis-anderson-physicist-time-travel-whistleblower.html)
So, I'm assuming some read and liked the link - 2012/2013 - Chaos or Positive Timeline? I love it! I don't know about anyone else, but "I feel good", about it and this 9th wave. I wonder if that is why MJ is using the number 9?
We're saddled up to ride the 9th wave MJ, with you, and all of the unity conscious. No wipeouts for us. Here's hoping and praying that everyone will be able to ride it safely and upright.
It's Her - I loved reading your post again. I see you made a "face" when they all waved bye-bye to Curly, but isn't that what the whole world did to MJ. We all had to say goodbye within 24 hours or so whether we totally believed it to be true or not. We had to try to come to grips and ask that he RIP.
Curly can come back. There could be a sequel. You should write to the movie studio that did that movie and ask them if you can bring Curly back. Lol. You'd be excellent at it, and that is for sure. Just like MJ is the only one that can pull off this hoax, because of its/his Brilliant nature, I believe you are the only one that could relay all things Curly/MJ. They just might give you a job as a screenwriter and/or animated character writer. Curly was one little dynamite Dancing Machine. Lol
SoilderofLove, I forgot. WHO IN THIS WORLD could come up with the below but our Michael?
G
A
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V
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R
In other words, you know I couldn't have come up with the words to fit the phrase - GAME OVER. I know B. Howard couldn't have either. (I'm not saying you doubted my words - just that you missed seeing it on his website) NO ONE but MJ could have. It takes a genius/brilliant/super-intelligent mind to come up with LETTERS to fit the WORDS. Or did GAME OVER come first, and then he had to find the words to fir the letters and phrase? LMBO. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Lol
Again:
Genesis (name of B. Howard's CD)
Adventure (it is an adventure - promo This Is It (Thriller II)
Master (MJ is the Master and there has never been one quite like him, and won't be again) (this is it/time) (he studied the greats and became greater - to include Berry Gordy himself)
Excellence (MJ has never done anything half-azz, for he is a Master of Excellence) (he turned that a way partly, because he studied, practiced, cared and is blessed by God)
One (one is all that's needed - uno) (one is all that's due)
Victorious (Victory Tour - he's already won a victory with God and his family on his side) (he WOULDN'T have been able to pull this off w/o God and Family) (some people forget that he needed his family from the get go or no go - it wouldn't have worked)
Entertainment (all kinds of entertainment the man knows and does) (again - he's the greatest and especially after this hoax - all for love)
Revenge (payback is a .itch indeed) (no one needs a revenge like our MJ)
Now, does anyone know of anyone on the PLANET/EARTH that could have come up with the EXACT/BRILLIANT WORDS/LETTERS to fit = GAME OVER - except Michael Joe Jackson? I didn't think so. He is just too much! I sincerely pray that God continues to Keep him safe. Or did he have the words first, and then just noticed, oh by the way, these words spell GAME OVER? Lol
Rachel1958 - you are correct. What a role he's playing. OBEE's song - "I'm playing. But never testing you fools (who is it - that MJ is calling fools (lol). Run for cover. Homies best that you do." See, he's playing on some level for fun and on the other, he is playing for (his and family's safety - and his works and legacy) keeps.
Laughter really is a medicine. Anyone ever wonder when, how and why a baby first smiles?
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I forgot, Genesis also means - THE BEGINNING. The beginning adventure from a master of excellence. Indeed.
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I have to check out these links when I have a good chunk of time, FG.
I like this: ‘You and I are not we but one.’
Time Travel... Whew! I have to digest it more and I've not read through it all yet but I will. You're right, it blows my mind. And you probably know this, but in many Ancient African/Egyptian, and Native/Meso American cultures, time travel, unity consciousness, etc. had been believed and practiced IONS ago. But, I understand 9th wave is the true synergy... Anyway, I need to read more. Thanks for the links.
Hey, you have the wrong person about "Game Over" I understood it immediately and I highlighted it. Only Michael could be that brilliant, I do agree. Someone else on this thread said they didn't see it on B.Howard's website. That was not me. In fact, I didn't see B.Howard's website at all, but didn't need to. I get it immediately.
This is cool! Check it out! :P
[youtube:qmrnkhxj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMZYMyBM48s[/youtube:qmrnkhxj]
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SoilderofLOVE, my bad. That was - voiceforthesilent. I'm sorry, I had you two confused for a minute. Anyway, I thought about elaborating on the "Game Over" phrase info last Friday, but was heading out of the door, so you know I was itching to catch up on yesterday.
Thank you so much for tube about time traveler. I enjoyed it. I remember someone told me many years ago, that Star Trek & Star Wars and the like was based in fact. He said that Hollywierd made many movies that were based in fact, but that many people would never believe that such a thing could happen. Now, many of us know differently.
I remember watching Rosemary's Baby back in 1969, and although I was trying to wrap my mind around it, I still felt that there had to be some truth to it and that it had evil connotations. Ewww.
Please Google link if you'd like for the below. Thank God for the light within.
From the December 2001 Idaho Observer:
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Slavery and the eight veils
By Don Harkins
"Over the last several years I have evolved and discarded several theories in an attempt to explain why it is that most people cannot see truth -- even when it smacks them in the face. Those of us who can see “the conspiracy” have participated in countless conversations amongst ourselves that address the frustration of most peoples' inability to comprehend the extremely well-documented arguments which we use to describe the process of our collective enslavement and exploitation. The most common explanation to be arrived at is that most people just “don't want to see” what is really going on.
Extremely evil men and women who make up the world's power-elite have cleverly cultivated a virtual pasture so grass green that few people seldom, if ever, bother to look up from where they are grazing long enough to notice the brightly colored tags stapled to their ears.
The same people who cannot see their enslavement for the pasture grass have a tendency to view as insane “conspiracy theorists” those of us who can see the past the farm and into the parlor of his feudal lordship's castle.
Finally, I understand why.
It's not that those who don't see that their freedom is vanishing under the leadership of the power-elite “don't want to see it” -- they simply can't see what is happening to them because of the unpaired veils that block their view.
All human endeavors are a filtration process. Sports is one of the best examples. We play specific sports until we get kicked off the playground. The pro athletes we pay big bucks to watch just never got kicked off the playground. Where millions of kids play little league each spring, they are filtered out until there are about 50 guys who go to the World Series in October.
Behind the first veil: There are over six billion people on the planet. Most of them live and die without having seriously contemplated anything other than what it takes to keep their lives together. Ninety percent of all humanity will live and die without having pierced the first veil.
The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, be active and have an opinion. Our opinions are shaped by the physical world around us; we have a tendency to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the second veil.
The second veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.
The third veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the third veil to find that the resources of the world, including people, are controlled by extremely wealthy and powerful families whose incorporated old world assets have, with modern extortion strategies, become the foundation upon which the world's economy is currently indebted. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fourth veil.
The fourth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fourth veil to discover the Illuminati, Freemasonry and the other secret societies. These societies use symbols and perform ceremonies that perpetuate the generational transfers of arcane knowledge that is used to keep the ordinary people in political, economic and spiritual bondage to the oldest bloodlines on earth. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the fifth veil.
The fifth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the fifth veil to learn that the secret societies are so far advanced technologically that time travel and interstellar communications have no boundaries and controlling the actions of people is what their members do as offhandedly as we tell our children when they must go to bed. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the sixth veil.
The sixth veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the sixth veil where the dragons and lizards and aliens we thought were the fictional monsters of childhood literature are real and are the controlling forces behind the secret societies. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without piercing the seventh veil.
The seventh veil: I do not know what is behind the seventh veil. I think it is where your soul is evolved to the point you can exist on earth and be the man Ghandi was, or the woman Peace Pilgrim was-people so enlightened they brighten the world around them no matter what.
The eighth veil? Piercing the eighth veil probably reveals God and the pure energy that is the life force in all living things-which are, I think, one and the same.
If my math is accurate there are only about 60,000 people on the planet who have pierced the sixth veil. The irony here is too incredible: Those who are stuck behind veils one through five have little choice but to view the people who have pierced the veils beyond them as insane. With each veil pierced, exponentially shrinking numbers of increasingly enlightened people are deemed insane by exponentially increasing masses of decreasingly enlightened people.
Adding to the irony, the harder a “sixth or better veiler” tries to explain what he is able to see to those who can’t; the more insane he appears to them.
Our enemy, the state
Behind the first two veils we find the great majority of people on the planet. They are tools of the state: Second veilers are the gullible voters whose ignorance justifies the actions of politicians who send first veilers off to die in foreign lands as cannon fodder -- their combined stations in life are to believe that the self-serving machinations of the power-elite are matters of national security worth dying for.
Third, fourth, fifth and sixth veilers are of increasing liability to the state because of their decreasing ability to be used as tools to consolidate power and wealth of the many into the hands of the power-elite. It is common for these people to sacrifice more of their relationships with friends and family, their professional careers and personal freedom with each veil they pierce.
Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), author of “Our Enemy, the State” (1935), explained what happens to those who find the seventh and eighth veils: “What was the best that the state could find to do with an actual Socrates and an actual Jesus when it had them? Merely to poison one and crucify the other, for no reason but that they were too intolerably embarrassing to be allowed to live any longer.”
Conclusions
And so now we know that it's not that our countrymen are so committed to their lives that, “they don't want to see,” the mechanisms of their enslavement and exploitation. They simply “can't see” it as surely as I cannot see what's on the other side of a closed curtain.
The purpose of this essay is threefold: To help the handful of people in the latter veils to understand why the masses have little choice but to interpret their clarity as insanity; 2. To help people behind the first two veils understand that living, breathing and thinking are just the beginning and; 3. Show people that the greatest adventure of our life is behind the next veil because that is just one less veil between ourselves and God."
By the way, I love the below thread. Lol - I laughed so hard, I cried. Another dot to keep connected. Was the lady that was with Murray on the Beach the same one that was with Blanket and them in Hawaii (coulda' been anywhere - Wonderland?)
viewtopic.php?f=172&t=12855&hilit=murray+son+on+a+beach&start=100 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=12855&hilit=murray+son+on+a+beach&start=100)
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...It's Her - I loved reading your post again. I see you made a "face" when they all waved bye-bye to Curly, but isn't that what the whole world did to MJ. We all had to say goodbye within 24 hours or so whether we totally believed it to be true or not. We had to try to come to grips and ask that he RIP.
Curly can come back. There could be a sequel :!: You should write to the movie studio that did that movie and ask them if you can bring Curly back. Lol. You'd be excellent at it, and that is for sure. Just like MJ is the only one that can pull off this hoax, because of its/his Brilliant nature, I believe you are the only one that could relay all things Curly/MJ. They just might give you a job as a screenwriter and/or animated character writer. Curly was one little dynamite Dancing Machine. Lol
Thanks, Flowergirl! You are just TOO nice! You give me new perspective! :D (and, if someone has a thing for the the spine-tingling "thrill" :P of real green, raw, propensity... I coincidentally do need a job right now :o , too :lol: )
But I mostly am TICKLED about Curly--our "Curly" coming back! You're right, he doesn't have to be gone forever. I was :o so drawn into the MJ parallels, that I took it all as his plan... :roll: :oops: Gotta watch that. :?
There is even more magic to this than you realize. As much Presence as Curly had in that old movie, they NEVER showed him, until the animated butterfly was drawn in. His presence was ALL "acted in" and MAKE-BELIEVED by his supporting cast!!!!! I love pre-tend. It has no limits and it is free. :mrgreen:
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I enjoyed reading about the 8 veils, thanks for sharing Flowergirl. I wonder what will happen when these veils will all be removed, it's going to be so abrupt. God bless you.
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There some of you go before checking all of the facts. This romance Prince has is with a girl he met at school. Her name is Niki, and it is all over Twitter, and I read about it on another website; which I won't post the link to that site.
But....... again, some of you want to blame Tito. Grow up and research before bad mouthing him and other family members any chance you get. MJ is alive clowns, so he speaks to all of his siblings more than any of you must imagine. The Jacksons Are Coming. And that is for now and always.
Plus, there are pictures of them together at a party, and Niki Berber has spoken about it more than once. You're just negative and uninformed people. Now, let's see if you can keep from checking out link from now on. If not, then look in the mirror, for you will be hypocrites. Most on the below site are around his and Paris's age, but I forgot some of you must be too.
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/prince-mich ... rger-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/prince-michael-jackson/images/17517099/title/prince-friend-niki-berger-photo)
It's Her, you do have a lot of talent for sure, as do a lot of members here, by the way. I admire some posters and find them very - very smart and intelligent. I enjoy reading their posts. I've leatrned a lot from jump street.
I'm glad to see SD posting again.
Sarahli, thank you - and Gold Bless you and yours. I love reading your posts, too.
I'll be back.
RIP Miss Taylor. She was a great actress.
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Below is Prince's Twitter. It's been verified. Now remember, MJ is alive, so he has approved Prince having one.
Scroll down and see who Prince answered was his best friend. (Obee) And at one point he answers someone, and says something along the lines that such is such is ok, but not like Nikii.
Jaafar also has a girlfriend, Alyssa. Their parents know. Some people think they are too young, but these days, children grow up so fast, and they certainly know how to use technology and in some cases, better than their elders. Surely, MJ is monitoring what Prince and Paris are up to. He sounds very mature and is something else.
Did anyone notice when Oprah asked Jermajesty if she was supposed to bow to him, one could hear Prince mumble - "no." Lol
http://twitter.com/princemjjjaxon?max_i ... twttr=true (http://twitter.com/princemjjjaxon?max_id=50012005716852736&page=29&twttr=true)
I think MJ has pierced the 7th veil. If anyone agrees, raise your virtual hand. Another reason why he loves the number 7 maybe?
I think some of us on here have pierced five/six for sure.
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Thank you Flowergirl for your blessings, God bless you and your family as well. Yes Elizabeth Taylor was a great actress and she will be missed. I love to know that the people who depart from this world are still very much alive and that we'll meet them again, I have no doubt about that. The pain of loss is a reminder from God teaching us that we must make the best out of this life because it doesn't last long and that one day or the other we'll have to go back to our real home. We should find peace in remembering God always, it comforts the heart. The veils described in the article you posted are important for people to consider and ponder about...and i'm raising my virtual hand in agreement. :)
How many people actually know that they are never alone? We're always accompanied by angels appointed by God whatever we do and wherever we go and I think we must operate in this world reinforcing in our consciousness this presence and make it more present because exercising it increases our abilities to remove these veils, I think. I don't know why i say these things i hope i make some sense. God bless you Elizabeth Taylor, I hope his family has peace in their hearts. I've been thinking about Michael I know how much he loved her, I hope he his fine. God bless you Flowergirl.
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God Bless You 2 Sarahli. Below is a great piece by Mr. Calleman.
http://www.calleman.com/content/article ... y_wave.htm (http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/dawn_of_the_unity_wave.htm)
Some may appreciate the below piece. African Cosmology came first. I bet some didn't know that as our true HIStory/HERstory has been kept from us. In Serenity_Dream's Religious Symbolism thread, I noticed some things she reported on is mentioned in the below piece. I love it!
I hope you enjoy.
http://www.theafrican.com/Magazine/Cosmo.htm (http://www.theafrican.com/Magazine/Cosmo.htm)
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I just read the first and last page of the Elizabeth Taylor buried at Forest Lawn thread. May she rest in peace.
You've got to be kidding me though. Some folks are still crying about MJ being buried there, because she wanted to be buried next to him or whatever? Give me a break.
MJ sings about DOCTOR MURRAY in his Smooth Criminal song. How does that get lost on folks? Do some not know when he made that record? It was over a decade ago. He has been planning on using this fake doctor character for years.
Doctor Murray is a fake doctor. He is not real. I think MJ has dressed up as him at times. MJ knows how to walk in stilts, and some of the pictures were probably taken before 6-25-09. Think of Mayor in Ghosts.
MJ is Rich & Powerful. He can plant stories and information all over the place on the Net if he chooses to. At one time, there was but one picture of the doc. Then TMZ noticed some at the hoax site spoke about it and they showed another or two.
Some Tubers think his name is Robert Earl Carter. Many of these folks in the hoax are actors and actresses. Plus MJ spoke to some that were not and asked them if they wanted to make their acting debut in this hoax. Lol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sour ... 5&aql=&oq= (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=robert+earl+carter&aq=f&aqi=g3g-v5&aql=&oq=)
Don't forget the Chernoff's website had some of the doc's so-called patients listed there and they were all noted in history for something and had passed away. One of them performed the hit - Rockin' Robin - which MJ also made into a hit. I mean really! The woman on beach with Murray is same as woman in Hawaii with the children, and on and on.
The video message Murray left for his fans. Didn't someone just make a video shown in the hoax forum about that fake funeral again. I mean, on and on, and yet there are some swearing that just because Liz Taylor is supposedly buried in a plot next to supposedly MJ's fake plot means that he is gone/dead. For those that think that, well now you can go on your merry way and quit this forum, because you really do mess it up for the ones of us that know that MJ is not buried at Forest Lawn, Forest Glen or at any other forest. Now you can free yourselves and move on, because you think he is dead.
Whether some know it or not, it is a very NEGATIVE VIBE to read and just have posted on the forum over and over that MJ is dead. In my estimation, it shouldn't even be put out in the UNIVERSE. It is just so negative. And it is not TRUE.
Da Truth Will Prevail.
Meanwhile for the ones that are tired of myself reiterating that MJ lives, I promise, I'll never preach about it again. Thanks.
This one is funny as all get out. Lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fESZ5LHl-NI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fESZ5LHl-NI)
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"Some people just don't want to see." They can't see for the Veils.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32060738/ ... rtainment/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32060738/ns/today-entertainment/)
Omer Bhatti's real name is most likely Michael Joe Jackson Junior. Anyone ever wonder why Prince is named after Mrs. Jackson's father? Oh so all of MJ's brothers can have a Junior but MJ? I think not! I'd bet my house that there is a legitimate birth certificate someone on this planet Earth that lists Omer's legal name as Michael Joe Jackson Jr. Hee-hee-hee!
http://kingmichaelj.webs.com/jacksonfamilyhistory.htm (http://kingmichaelj.webs.com/jacksonfamilyhistory.htm)
Why can't some people get it that MJ had a child out of wedlock, and at the time he was a Jehovah Witness. He was embarrassed about it, but he knew he wanted to be involved. He wanted to keep the child (God bless him - and the Jacksons don't believe in abortion), but because he was at the height of his career, he decided to ask the mother for sole/soul custody. He then asked the Bhatti's who worked for him to take the child to Norway to raise. MJ saw him, no doubt, because that is how MJ is. He is a loving soul, has a loving heart and is generous by a fault. There is no way he didn't see the child probably at least yearly until he was eight years old. He then had the Bhatti's bring him to Neverland to raise. He also is the Godfather to many men and women. Michael Gibb (Barry's son) is one of his Godchildren.
Nothing anyone can say (and you powerless to do anything - hee-hee) that will change those facts. The reason Omer isn't coming straight out and saying it in the MSM and the like is because HIS FATHER told him not to, folks. MJ and Omer speak all of the time. I think Omer is MJ's best friend. If Omer came out and straight up declared that MJ was his father some would still have something useless to say and declare. Lol They still wouldn't be satisfied. By saying that MJ was his father, it would take away the focus (concentration) of what MJ is trying to do with this hoax, and it would make the media try to get more info out of Omer, and they would sic the paparazzi on him for real then indeed.
MJ still wants him to have some semblance of Privacy like he's always had. Here's hoping he is never kidnapped. Omer has a black belt in Karate, because MJ wanted him to be able to defend himself. MJ has one too. Omer went to see the premiere of The Karate Kid last year. MJ wants the other three to get their belts also.
Most of the Diane Diamonds and the Nancy Graces of the world know that Omer is MJ's, and that all of his other children are his biologically. Where are the headlines in those facts for those evil azz people? They are the losers that tried to ruin and destroy MJ's name all of these many years past by trying to paint him as a pedo, gay and/or asexual and a freak (he told them he had their freak in Ghosts - lol). Having legit bio children just wouldn't fit their evil azz agenda and the mold they tried to place MJ in. Tsk-tsk. That is one reason why they aren't trying to make a mockery out of his name. The other reason is because they know he is alive. They knows he has a lot of power and weilds a big stick/sword.
They have no story. They know if they truly would try to pick on these facts, the REAL TRUTH would come out, and they just don't want that. They would have to retract all of the LIES they told about MJ over the years. The media (same one that MJ despised for the most part) are the lame ones that planted that story that Omer wanted a DNA test. Did anyone ever remember seeing TMZ stating that? Thought not. MJ wouldn't allow it out of TMZ. It was one of those lying medias that brought up the dna test. We know how suggestive they can be in their lying propaganda. Just like they were the liars that said Omer denied it - per a friend from Norway, and that he was in Norway hiding out, when all ofd the time, he was in LA with his family. Roll eyes.
Folks, I could pull up old stories and video clips of these rabid and toxic people showing/showcasing the CELL MJ was going to fit/live in - in prison. Now you want to talk about someone that could cry just thinking about that? That would be me. Thank God he escaped that evil fate. God gets all the praise for saving him from it. THAT TRIAL WAS NO HOAX!
Those evil people were giddy and practically had a climax just thinking about MJ's fate in that tiny cell. Talkin' 'bout riches to rags. And we can't forget what the DA Tom Sneddon said a couple of days before the verdict or so. My God! It was sickening.
Omer was there when Neverland was raided with a couple of his friends from Norway, and he said, "it was sickening." Bless his heart. MJ was in Las Vegas, but can not the astute amongst us just imagine what MJ went thru when he heard about the raid happening at that time? He probably was so relieved to see Omer's face. This FACT is another reason MJ wants revenge. They say that MJ could be cold as ice when he wanted too. He don't take no mess. They messed with the wrong man. And he has definate plans to pay the DA back and all involved for what they did to his firstborn SON, Neverland and himself. Omer will always have nightmares about it. MJ's PAYBACK list is long.
If you wish to keep on talking about Omer is not Mikes, then have at it. You probably don't really care about MJ's heart anyway, because you sure don't know and understand it. Omer is blessed to have MJ as his father, no question.
I can't wait until the MIchael Jackson Biopic to come out. They say Omer will play the young man - Michael. Hee!
Sorry, but no cigar. The boy is going to be a billionaire one day, so get jealous and/or get over it. In other words, get a grip on REALITY, because u are the small u in all of this and u are the little i in none of this.
By the way, they say that Joe Jackson's book is the best yet from any Jackson family member. I'm gone have to buy it.
Quote from book below:
Our Ancestors
"The name Jackson was recieved by us from my great-grandfather on the part of the father, July Gale.
Nobody called him July, everybody called him just Jack.
Great-grandfather Jack was born in tribe Chostaw in the beginning of 19 centurie. He was an Indian shaman.
And he was very much appreciated for abilities for doctoring. Also Jack in his youth worked as a scout in the USA army.
Then great-grandfather has fallen in love with the fine girl by name Gina. In 1838 they gave birth to their first son, a boy whom they have named Israel. Unfortunately in past was so, that if one of the child's perants was a slave, the child also was considered a slave.
Indian Jack was " the free person ", but my great-grandmother unfortunately was a slave, that's why Israel couldn't hope for anything else, at least not yet.
When Israel has grown up, people have nicknamed him Nero. Nero, son of Jack, and eventually from this it has turned to Nero Jack-son.
As well as my great-grandfather, Nero was tall and light-skined, with high cheekbones and small sparkling eyes. And he was very proud of himself. Nero was still a boy when Jack started to transfer him his shaman knowledge. But despite of gift to doctoring and despite of his need for the tribe, to affliction of his parents, Nero has been sold to a plantation, to Louisiana. As well as other slaves, Nero had to eat there and then where it was told by the owners - kneeling before a low trough from which he scooped with a spoon. Soon Nero had enough of it and he ran away. The owner of a plantation immideately has sent people which searched all night long and have caught the fluent slave on the river, many miles away from the plantation. They have beaten Nero, up so bad, that he lost litres of his blood.
When some months later Nero has finally recovered, his owner wanted to sell him, but slaves which has previously escaped, were impossible to sell under the same high price, so instead of it owner of Nero has decided to force him to work as much as possible. My grandfather was tormented on crude cotton fields of the South, held down on hands and legs. Once fetters all the same have removed, and Nero has again dared to run away. This time the owner of a plantation himself has headed search group and has appointed the award to the one who will catch Nero. He was afraid, that other slaves will follow his example if he will not catch it him. And when he has really tracked down Nero, he has taken a heated chimney nipper and squeezed his nose with them until Nero has fallen without feelings. He has left my grandfather to lay on the ground because thought, that Nero was dead. But he was so strong, that has gone through also this awful punishment! But scars of the burn have remained with him up to the end of his days.
For the time, that Nero has lived on a plantation in Louisiana, he had 6 children born from his girlfriend. Later he married an Indian Chostaw - well, she was an Indian only on 3/4 - my grandmother Emmaline. Probably, his life with my grandmother was some kind of a refuge from awful working conditions, and those who has enthralled him, could only be jelous at harmonies of his marriage and home life. They did not need many money to be happy because they loved each other. Emmaline was from Louisiana, she has gone to her mother slightly yellowish color of a skin.
When the president Lincoln released slaves on May, 31, 1865 Nero's situation got better. At last he could earn for a life adequately - selling the Indian medicines. With time he became famous because he has cured hundreds of people. His abilities of the sorcerer became widely known, and people came from far away so he'd he help them.
Grandfather Nero conducted a simple life and has saved so much money, that he and my grandmother could get a farm in Sunnyvale in Missisippy. He has paid with cach for 120 hectares of the fertile ground. There Nero and Emmaline had 15 children (and in general Nero had 21 children). My grandfather, grandmother and all their huge clan was fed from this ground where they planted corn, tomatoes, other vegetables, held chickens, pigs and cows.
Nero then frequently wandered in the woods to collect grasses. From roots and other parts he made broth, spilled it in bottles and gave it to the patients to drink, he made also ointments of various wood grasses. With this things he treated Indians and former slaves, and they paid for it to him with what they could.
Nero also liked to sing and frequently executed old military dances of Chostaw. Once Saturday evening the sheriff and his people have blocked with ropes the street on which he danced, and have tried to arrest him for infringement of a public order, but Nero has felt danger. He has jumped on the horse, has elegantly jumped through an obstacle and has escaped. After that the sheriff has left him alone.
When children Nero and Emmaline have grown and have created their own families, he has invited the children of his younger brother William to his farm, among them was also my senior cousin Rufus. Rufus has somehow told to me, he should be given more attention to grasses with which the grandfather treated illnesses. But he then was still a child and as many children, did not think of as far as valuable can be knowledge of ancestors.
When Rufus was 4, Nero's wife has died. In the meantime Nero too became old and weak, and since he could not look after the farm as earlier, he had to buy some things from one white man by the name Eroy. He spent the small amounts of money, but the Eroy very carefully conducted the accounts. Rufus was then still a child; the only thing, that he has noticed is that Nero becomes weaker. And it caused Nero to hand over to Eroy, for on storage some important papers so he could keep them for him. In the end eroy managed - the way Rufus and I have guessed later - to appropriate documents on owning of the farm, ostensibly as debt payments which Nero owned him.
That's how our family has lost all rights on this fertile ground where hundreds peach and pear trees which my relatives carefully looked after, grew. When later Rufus and I have have found out, that there, under the ground were huge oil fields, we have simply lost gift of speech since the rent for the right of drilling already then made to 1,2 million dollars. Meanwhile the deposit should cost at least good 100 million.
The last years of his life Nero lived on the farm alone, because William and Rufus have again left home. He has died in 1924, long before my birth. My father Samuel, lived back than in Arkansas where he has found work, he has found out about death of the father too late and couldn't come to funeral. My uncle Sam has arrived from Oklahoma to participate in it, and other son of the grandfather, my uncle Esco too had come there. My father was Nero's younger son. He had a twin sister Janey D. Hall.
My great-grandmother on the part of mother - Mattie Daniel. Mattie was born in 1864. Her mother, handicaped, was the daughter of the planter, father - the slave on a plantation of her father. Despite of protests of mother, Mattie has been sold to other family because the planter did not like that her father was black. When I was young, Mattie's history set me thinking. If I had children, I thought, I would not lower eyes from them and wouldn't allow anybody to take them away from me.
Anyway, Mattie never could enjoy a life of society, as her mother. As well as Nero, my great-grandfather on the part of mother was the slave collecting a cotton. Mattie was married 2 times and had 17 children. One of her daughters was my grandmother, another - my cousin grandmother Verna.
Nero was a respectable person due to doctoring abilities and also because at he owned a ground, that during this time was unusual to the former slave. As to business qualities, my father has gone to him, he too was respected, mainly for good education. Samuel studied 9 years in Alcorn College in Mississipi and when he was 24, he already were Bachelor and Master Degree, that on a boundary of centuries was a rarity for the young man from minority .
After final examinations he has found out, that in Ashley Country, Arkansas, there's an empty palce of a teacher. He walked there 200 km from Mississipi to participate in competition on this place, and has received it.
Earlier in a province, in initial and the higher school only one teacher taught. Professor Jackson as he was named, had 2 especially clever schoolgirls to whom he from the very beginning has paid attention - sisters King. One them them, Chrystal - bright individuality, with a dazzling smile and loud laughter. When she was 16 years, he married her. It was my mother.
In a small town where I lived, everybody loved my family. We spent our free time at home or in church and since Dad has been well educated, neighbours admired him. And we always had friends."
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=46639 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46639)
Check out MJ's grandfather on his father's side and Prince if you dare.
Look at 'Lil Monkey. Omer said he doesn't like anyone calling him that but MJ or when MJ was "alive", because it holds a special place in his heart. Sorry O-BEE, but MJ can still call you that. Paris called him Monkey on her Rapping video. Lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZfMvhmbtwc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZfMvhmbtwc)
I'm trying to find the one showing a chimp bothering Prince whilst MJ and Omer crack up, and the one where MJ is holding an infant middle eighties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcwjT_6Hc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcwjT_6Hc)
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Flowergirl, I am reading your posts like a novel. Thanks
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No, Flowergirl is a very good marketing gal! a bit sectarian in the methods, but can pass.
1st, let´s open the thread with a catchy message. Keep da faith.
2nd, let´s start the post with a controversial subject (this takes hours of forum lurking..eeehhhh), ganging on the latest banns! it will catch the attention!
3rd, create guilt: talk about the family and how stupid people can be not understanding what we all already know btw.
4rd, inflict fear...you will be punished by no other than God..(well, God right now, looking at the world news, has more important issues to take care of than "connecting the dots with critical thinking")
5th, go on with the flow, repeat what we all already know since the hoax started, gain trust
6th, tell you are the one to trust, you are the knower
7th,(the magic number) promote your forum at the end of the final post :D hopefully the catch will be a success
Voilá...clicks are achieved!and with some luck, members as well.
Nothing but full approval.
Web 2.0 seems to encourage some individuals to strange behaviour. Hello ....!?!!
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Kiddies, I'm not the only one that refers to myself as a Knower. Just because you all aren't knowers that MJ is alive and are still trying to figure it out, why should the ones of us that believe/know within our total beings that he is alive be called out? That's ludicrious. It is not an issue for me. I wish we could cut it with the is he alive or not stuff. Please!
I've believed it since the beginning. I knew that nurse Cherylin (sp?) was lying when I saw her on LKL or wherever she first showed up. Of course, I was still reeling and trying to grasp it all, but hearing her put some faith in my heart and soul. I was like - bull-shyt. Lol
In other words, I firmed it up by reading up on the old hoax forum, but since 18 months ago, I'm a knower. And just like many folks are all over the world.
I mean, here is another thing. MJ SINGS ABOUT DOCTOR MURRAY - on his record Smooth Criminal, which I didn't notice until watching (MagicalXscapism's) video. Now, he must be on the inside IMO. See when I connect a dot, I keep it connected. C'mon now! Molasses is not my middle name.
I'm just a friend of MJ's and family from 1969. That's how long I've followed them. Tis' all. I love them all. No one is perfect. God is our ultimate judge. And so on and so forth.
On a very serious note. If anyone here is related to MJ and/or is close to him, (TS), please speak to the family about moving everyone to Las Vegas or somewhere. (MJ probably is on it) Radiation has already been detected on the west coast. And some are talking about a MAJOR quake happening in San Fran or LA by next week. They say some passengers arriving from Japan are making the detectors go off in Chicago and elsewhere.
First I just have to get this out of the way....LMAO!!!
What do you mean that the believers/knowers like you are being called out? Huh? Well ok I am a believer/Soldier/ sometimes knower and ok I am calling you out, now what?
I was really being fair here when I started to read your initial post. I always give everyone the benefit of doubt; they start with a fresh blank slate in my book. I'm very tolerant when it comes to reading people's thoughts, opinions, theories, and what not.
BUT I also have a limit. When I start to read (more than enough) that I personally feel is rude to the members here who have actually signed up on this forum; they have not hid behind a guest name and spouted off. If they have something to say they do. The members here work their issues out if they have one. It may not be perfect but it is a two way dialog not a bunch of pointing fingers and down talking to the others.
You should take your own advice to heart. Practice what you preach; in other words stop throwing stones when you yourself are living in a glass house. You are not the only one who sometimes gets annoyed when reading back and forth wishy washy thoughts. One thing I do give credit to the Soldiers here is; No matter how much emotional rollercoaster ride they go on they are STILL here hanging on. 8-)
I might of been able to even tolerate your rude condesending posts had you not continued to berade and insult members here. That is another thing and key word MEMBERS; sign up and become one and stop hiding in the shadows lurking and then start posts in the guest forum. BTW GUEST means just that; your a guest on the MJDHI website. We are the hosts and hostesses. Don't shit on our carpet and not expect one of us to say something. You boast alot about being a knower yet say you had to confirm your thoughts by reading a "hoax" forum and then spoke about you watched a "hoax" video. Those usually are based on the video makers theories and opinions. Your a knower based off of other people's research?...LMAO!!!
If you are the all wise KNOWER and there are many of you out there; please by all means go ahead and start your own forum and run it your way. We do not need to be told negative things as if you are saying anything that is beneficial here, really!
They and some? You mean the MEDIA is reporting these things to you and your believing it? LMAO!!! They sure did make you believe it. I am pretty sure MJ/TS and his family are aware of the seriousness and the situation that may or may not happen regarding a quake in cali. They (Jackson clan) have lived there for over 40 years. Las Vegas is still the west coast so that whole idea of moving there doesn't make sense...
Your just a friend of MJ'S and the family? Yet you have followed them? You mean like a fanatical stalker... :shock:
I am trying to figure out your true age by your post calling us kiddies? Really? I am 42 and alot of the members here are over 40. We do have some younger ones also and to be honest I have seen some younger teenagers write more mature posts than alot of the older members. ;)
MJ fam do not be upset at me for lowering myself to my ghetto side with out to much cursing... Remember it is all for L.O.V.E.
[youtube:1kujw1fd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znlFu_lemsU&feature=fvsr[/youtube:1kujw1fd]
Signed,
Im_convincedmjalive...ha ha!
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I love your ghetto side. I want you in my fox hole in a battle any day.
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God Bless You, FlowerGirl. Keep on Truckin' and Time Travelin' and most of all...................................................
KEEP DA FAITH!
[youtube:2z7begl1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZIMsNwrSM[/youtube:2z7begl1]
Living Together by The Jacksons
I want the world
The whole wide world
To stop and listen to me
If we're going to stick together
We've got to be a family
This love
Love
Love
Have yourself a good, good time
But don't you know
It's getting late
Yeah, if this world
Is gonna be our home
We gotta make it strong
By living together
'Cause if this world
Is gonna be our home
We've got to make it strong
By living together
Have yourself a good, good time
But don't you know
It's getting late
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Give me peace
Give me sweet, sweet peace
So I can do my thing
I don't want no wars to hurt me
'Cause hurt is all it brings
Lets take the time
To check it on out
And learn what's right and wrong
Someday we can tell our children
That all the wars are gone
Love, love, love
Have yourself a good, good time
But don't you know
It's getting late
If this world
Is gonna be our home
(We gotta believe)
Gotta make it strong
By living together
If this world
Is gonna be our home
We gotta make it strong
By living together
Have yourself a good, good time
But don't you know
It's getting late
(Have yourself a good, good time)
(Have yourself a good, good time)
Gotta make it strong together
It's the only way to do it
Please, please, please
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I have learned a lot from this forum. I love reading certain ones posts very much.
I have always believed in MJ, and feel that I need to stand up for him and his family when I feel like it. I have never ever believed one lie about him. When you think about it, much of the stuff many of us has heard about MJ over the years was from the lying media. When you take that out of the equation, we really didn't have much - other than TV appearances/award shows. Wonder why? Why could it possibly be because he felt he deserved his "Privacy", so much so that he wrote a song about it? Talkin' 'bout being crucified, he was.
Of course, I've always known that he is not perfect - and is only human. He is so smart, he wrote a song about Human Nature also. Most of the songs he sang, are timeless, had meaning and can fit in with this hoax.
But some of can agree that he is - purrr-fect. At one time your boy had a fine body. Ooh-la-la. Just like Perfection Man. What is the name again? (Vitruvian Man, per Serenity's_Dream) At one time he did look-ded good. Lol He sure looked good in that fencing outfit, didn't he? My goodness! By the way, I had no idea, I was going where I just went. Back to the Future.
SoldierofLOVE, yeah I like the video you posted. You Keep on Truckin' and Time Travelin', too girlfriend. Lol
Did anyone ever STUDY these lyrics by J5 - Man of War? Notice that, Study Peace is within.
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/t/the-jackson-5/man/ (http://www.mp3lyrics.org/t/the-jackson-5/man/)
"How many Christians are waiting for the Coming Back of Christ, not knowing the cosmic soul of this individual is already here? Messiah in Hebrew means the 'anointed' or 'appointed one'. Anyone can be One that is 'anointed' or 'appointed' and all of us is the Messiah Christ, but the ones anointed with the wisdom of God are appointed to teach the knowledge of Self, to the world. The Spirit which revealed to me these mysteries is the Great Ennead, but in the Holy Bible I am an apostle and prophet, follower and leader, because I revealed to you the mysteries of Christ."
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I think Human Nature was composed by Steve Porcaro of Toto fame.
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I think Doctor Thome-Thome is MJ in disguise. I posted it on the old MJHD forum. There are no real pictures of him, but the ones from the news conference, when Jermaine announced that, "My brother, the King of Pop has died." MJ didn't mind letting the KOP die off. He is into doing films. I think he did V/Vendetta.
Wouldn't it just be entirely too much Brilliance (too much light around that coup) if your boy (MJ) was standing right next to his brother on that stage as he informed the entire world/planet that he was gone; yet he was standing really close by? Thome-Thome didn't have to talk to a soul if he didn't want to. By the way, did the LAPD speak to him, supposedly? Lol
Notice on second link how Thome's lips sort of turn up. MJ does that a lot. He is the only one of his brothers that does it. Is it a coincidence that Thome has that same lip action? Even the profile (way he's holding head) I've seen from MJ. He did it when he was 'Lil Michael, he still did it after he kissed Diana Ross upon her giving him his Hall of Fame award, and on and on.
If MJ can play the mayor on Ghosts, then he can play Thome-Thome. He could wear a fatter suit and so on.
Like I mentioned before, MJ is so rich and powerful that he can plant articles by asking someone that pulls the strings in the editorial departments of certain papers, TV News, etc. ABC News may be one of the ones that MJ can contact to plant a story. He probably planted all of that info about Thome-Thome. This is why the man and what he represented/represents is so confusing. MJ wanted it to be. They might not have quite known which character to use when acting as his personal physician on 6-25-09, and then decided on the fly. Remember, it took about two to three days before Murray was identified as the Doc. At first, Thome was being reported.
Senegal, the country stated that they'd never heard of him being the ambassador of their country. Lol Poster from Michaeljackson.com stated that he read that Thome had several aliases. I guess so if MJ is making people up like he sang about Dr. Murray in Smooth Criminal. I guess he was saying not only am I a Smooth Criminal and Operator, but I'm going to make Doctor Conray Murray into one, too. Lol
I knew when Thome supposedly gave that money (5.5M) back to the Estate that he was in on the Hoax, and not on any bad side. NO, he and Jermaine didn't plan MJ's demise. MJ thought quick on his feet, so he planted an article proclaiming that Thome gave back some money he was holding for MJ to buy Wonderland in Las Vegas. Lol He knew that there were stories out there stating that his mother depended on him for her keep, so he wanted to make sure the public thought that this 5.5M came into being just in time to keep her and his children ok. Please!
Thome was so-called quoted saying that he was the closest to Michael. I believe that, and especially if he is MJ. Lol On second link, he supposedly sat down with the AP. Anyone can write an article stating that they sat down and spoke to someone at the AP or anywhere else. And notice that the links no longer work on 2nd link as it pertains to his so-called website.
MJ planted EACH AND EVERY DETAIL pertaining to this fake character IMO. I ascertain that there is suppose to be twists and turns in any good 'ole fashioned murder mystery, indeed. I think this aspect is a very important one in this alternate Reality Game (ARG). I think MJ wants more than a little bit for folks to find the discrepancies and contradictions, rule this one in or out - and basically come up with the fact that, no murder was comitted. Period! It'll take the trial to do that.
I hope MJ testifies as DOCTOR THOME-THOME. Wouldn't that be a riot? MJ can change his speaking and singing voice. He is truly good at it.
Some think Jermaine and this Thome planned MJ's murder, and so on. I saw MJ at Planet Hollywood with Jermaine. From jump street, I never believed that mess. Some have made videos claiming that Jermaine and family sacrificed MJ for money and fame. I never watched them, but know about them. Many from the Hip-Hop community and young men and women at colleges believe it. If nothing else, MJ has caused a lot of people to think about it. Many thought he was murdered from the moment they heard the Breaking News - that MJ had "passed."
MJ, you are the Best in the West.
http://www.michaeljackson.com/za/node/683136 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/za/node/683136)
http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.c ... tohme.html (http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-dr-tohme-tohme.html)
http://news.lalate.com/2009/06/27/dr-to ... me-photos/ (http://news.lalate.com/2009/06/27/dr-tohme-tohme-photos/)
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/22/michael-j ... ccounting/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/22/michael-jackson-dr-tohme-tohme-lawsuit-estate-money-fee-accounting/)
THE BEGINNING ADVENTURE FROM A MASTER OF EXCELLENCE - BEGINNING ADVENTURE MASTER (BAM)
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It's the third link where Thome's website is mentioned.
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How about these two articles? Read the last sentence from 1st link. I posted it below. LMBO
Now, for the ones of us that Know that MJ is alive and kicking, do these articles make any sense except to MJ and his players in this movie? Lol
Because we know he is alive, what in the world could be up with this planted information?
Especially, when considereing all of the places MJ has been seen since 6-25-09. How about his as Mr. Magoo at the 2010 Grammy Awards, after Paris and Prince spoke? Remember how this character stood up like he was making foolery to clap heartily for the lad and lassie? Lol
Notice how the Access Hollywood one, has the same info. MJ has contacts with them.
^^^^^^^And he (Thome) remembered Jackson’s last words to him that day: “I love you.”^^^^^^^
Is this a drama or comedy MJ?
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael- ... icle_20158 (http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson-adviser-dr-tohme-tohme-breaks-silence-to-talk-about-his-friend_article_20158)
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2009/07 ... oductions/ (http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2009/07/michael-jacksons-death-neverland-the-mysterious-dr-tohme-president-of-michael-jackson-productions/)
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The following is a You Tube video pertaining to and including an interview with Thome Thome.
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw38AZEv4io&feature=related
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starchild thanks for video. I saw it back then when it came out. What about it? I don't believe anything negative about Thome-Thome. Did Estate (MJ) dispute in the press that TT supposedly gave back $5.5M? And then over a year later (LMBO) Thome pops back in the picture crying to TMZ that the Estate won't pay him for the Advisor work he did for MJ. Lol MJ planted that story, in my opinion.
Let's look at it this way. Take the short film - Ghosts. Let's say that it was relayed to be a real story. Let's say that someone called different media to inform anyone that would listen that there was a weird freakish man that lived in a castle/mansion up in Hollywood Hills holding persons against their will. Let's say that finally this freak let everyone go. No one wanted to press charges. Let's say that by the time the press got there, the house was empty, but the evidence showed that something indeed had happened like witnesses and hostages first reported.
Let's say that the press contacted the person that had originally called them, and from that person they were able to contact a few other people for interviews. Let's say that they called the Mayor (main character) (MJ) (he's in disguise just like in Ghosts), a woman and a child for interviews. There is proof that these three; along with several others had been held.
Let's say that the Mayor (main character) (MJ) visited a local ABC news station (or they came to him) to give the interview/info about what had happened to him as he was being held by some freak. Let's say that he was also interviewed by three or four other media outlets and gave same story.
Now.......would any of these particular press/media outlets be able to glean/realize/learn/detect/understand/know and/or figure at any point during said interview, that the Mayor (main character) was actually/really Michael Joe Jackson that they were interviewing?
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Everyone, below is a good link from The Michael Zone.
And for the ones that think that TMZ makes fun of MJ by calling him Jacko and anything else too much, so what? MJ took it all of these many years past, and he didn't wilt. He has Rhinoceros/thick skin. Plus, since he is in charge of any and everything written about him @ TMZ, then he is wise enough to know that it would be prudent to write about himself thus, at times.
Anyone ever notice how many haterz there are that post on TMZ, and how many hate MJ? They hate his children, family and etc. I never read that mess, but did a couple of times right after 6-25-09. Many of those people are 'Lost Children', and I don't mean the kind MJ was singing about. They have lost their souls, and are pretty much bitter, mean and evil people. Sadly, many are young adults.
MJ could never win for losing with many people here in America, because there is a certain group of powerful people that wanted to dehumanize him (amonst many other things - and adjectives that can be used) and influence people to label him as a joke and freak, that shouldn't be taken seriously. They wanted to make people believe that he was broke - so that when he went to jail, they could steal his catalogs/fortune, under the pretense that it was needed to pay off his debt - and on and on. He thought they were trying to poison him at one time, and so on.
MJ can take a lot, but don't mess with his children and his family. In doing so, you have crossed a line you should never have crossed. All of the Jacksons are like that. Some people think that they aren't a close family, but they would be mistaken. Papa Joe passed the torch, and guess who to? Michael "Corleone" Jackson, that's - 'Who Is It.'
The Jacksons Are Coming was a Doc that came out in 2008. The family had been planning hoax and what not for years. MJ says out of his own mouth in Geraldo interview when asked if he was going to work with his brothers again - and he said -"there are a few surprises in store. Films. We are going to do film (or something along those lines)." So again, to all the haters of his family, they are keeping on with MJ in charge, and there is nada anyone can do about it.
By the way Souza, I agree with you about Murray. Some of the pics of him were most likely taken before 6-25-09, so certainly MJ could have been made up - and still shots were taken. I believe there is a person that plays him also, but MJ wants to document how many disguises he PERFORMED in this hoax, and how much he worked with his family members, and how much he wrote and directed for it.
We remember what Marlon said at the funeral, and about his shoes. Why is Smooth Murray wearing loafers? Who wears them these days for the most part? No one but maybe Ne-Yo and Usher in imitating MJ. Lol
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-j ... -hospital/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-rushed-to-the-hospital/)
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/20 ... ardia.html (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/06/michael_jackson_suffers_cardia.html)
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I am going to read all of this later, now i cannot.
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"MJ can take a lot, but don't mess with his children and his family. In doing so, you have crossed a line you should never have crossed. All of the Jacksons are like that."
If so, TMZ is not playing Michael's game and it's not by his side, remember the most grotesque title MJ durgged Blanket. So TMZ just keeps throwing "clues" from time to time for their traffic , ads and money. Way to go. That's why i don't even click that website. Just a tabloid trash.
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Well, I have not yet had time to read everything, but I never agree with those who call themselves fans of Michael and disrespect and insult his mother, father and brothers .. TMZ is not anything else .. that's why there are times when the word "fan" I do not like. :?
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The love of Michael Joe Jackson's life is Miss Diana Ross. That's why in 2006 when she had the song 'I Love You' written for HIM, she had the lyrics, 'When you love, you don't COUNT. It's no MYSTERY. The love is meant to be shared. Yeah, and 'Let It Be." She was singing the entire CD for him. You don't count? Count what? AGE DIFFERENCE!
She did four songs with the Irish group Westlife in late 2005. MJ was over in Ireland then. He was supposed to sing with them, and the next thing that happened was that Diana sung with them.
She finally let him know that it was now or never. That's why she dedicated that CD to him. Why do you think he "SYMBOLICALLY" left his children to her? Why did Evan stress how close they (MJ & DR) were? He finally was able to show the world how much she means to him, and of course, his mother is the other woman that means so much to him.
You'd be mistaken to think that HE NEVER HAD A MEANIFUL RELATIONSHIP. He's always loved Diana and would have possibly married her if not for him getting Omer's mother pregnant. Liz Taylor introduced him to Omer's mother. Lol, he told Diana the child was from a one night stand with a fan. There is no way he was going to tell her the truth that Liz Taylor introduced them. Lol Fact not fiction.
Check out the below video Diana did for him that goes with her CD. "Behind the Scenes of the 'I Love You', CD." Wow! She looks beau-ti-ful for sixty-two. It may be hard for some to fathom that he could love a woman 14 years older than him, but love her he does. He's loved her since 6 years old someone in his family reported, when he first saw her on the Ed Sullivan show as a Supreme when he was six years old. He also lived with her for a couple of years, where she taught him to draw and took him to museums. He talks about it in his book. If you don't like her singing, just look at how wonderful she looked then. She'll be 67 this month, and she still looks good.
I think MJ and Diana speak about the 9th Wave, Mayan Calendar, 2012, and the New Golden Age many think will happen on Earth. One of the things that is supposed to happen is - "Reversal in Aging." That would fix it for these two lovers. They might not have seen each other for a year or two at times, but they always managed to hook back up, and the last time, it was for Keeps, in my opinion. Evan more or less confessed to it by saying - "From what I know." That was said after he mentioned that he didn't think he was MJ's blood. (From what he knew) Lol
Just do some critical thinking, and whether you like the idea or not, and if you truly believe he is alive, then why would you think he would name her in his symbolic will (because that can be changed at any time - and it is always about the trust anyway). It was for L.O.V.E. IT WAS ANOTHER BIG CLUE.
They may even be married, because she looked at the camera in the song - 'I Want You', and she said, "I want you - (looked in camera and said) the right way (and sort of nodded her head - lol)." That is the only time she looked at the camera thus. Again, this was in 2006, after he was acquitted and after she sang four songs with Westlife. She was letting him know that if they were going to do this, then we'd better hurry up. Ross (Diana's son) was asked if he would like it if MJ's children became his siblings, and he said, "They already are." It is probably on Google.
Evan's birthday is two days before MJ's and in 2009; they had a big bash in Las Vegas. They celebrated both birthdays. There is no way on God's green earth that they all could have celebrated that soon after MJ's supposed passing. It's on you tube/Google. Lol
Diana did some concerts starting last May, and again for all of the love she has for MJ, that would have been too soon. She also did a part where she sings 'I Love You', and the Classic black and white Picture of MJ holding her around her waist shows up HUGE on the screen. She called him, "My Love, Michael Jackson." That my friends is MEANINGFUL, and there is no question. What those two had and have is legendary. It is Romeo and Juliet. I know some don't believe it or want to, but it is the truth, and it is based in fact.
What a BLOCKBUSTER Movie it would be, for the ENTIRE WORLD would tune in. MJ has so many Potential projects up his sleeve. "Matter is energy slowed down. It is Potential, and Mind is Consciousness/Will."
Research is a wonderful tool. 'Discover the man you never knew.''
http://emicatalogmarketing.com/dianaross (http://emicatalogmarketing.com/dianaross)
http://www.locoporletras.com/letras/dia ... ters_.html (http://www.locoporletras.com/letras/diana_ross/i_love_you_thats_all_that_really_matters_.html)
"'Cause I can thrill more than any ghost would ever dare."
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That should have read - "'Cause I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try."
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Can we say Gossip?
Tabloid Junkie anyone? Fan fiction? Hypocrite?
For you to come on here and say the things you have to the members here about how disrespectful they are to MJ and his family; how is it any different than you running your fingers with this tabloid shit?
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Are you out of your rabbit -azz mind? You are the one showing your ignorance, because you are too lazy to research. THE LOVE OF MJ'S LIFE IS A BLACK WOMAN. Get over it!
Show me where I've quoted tabloids, and watch your nasty mouth. I've posted a video showing them together in the past, and Diana's song I Love You speaks for itself. Diana didn't mention MJ once during Oprah interview. Better yet, Oprah refused to ask any MJ questions, either because MJ told her not to or Diana did.
Read MJ's book 'Moonwalker' where he talks about Diana. He has been wuoted speaking about how he loves Diana and always will many times over the years. He talks about hos jealous and hurt he was that she got married in 2006.
Then pull up Ebony 1982/83 article where he stated that HE WANTED TO MARRY DIANA. When asked wasn't she too old, he said - "What age would you be if you didn't know how old you were." Then watch that last link. Only a fool can't see the LOVE between these two.
I mean I can go on and on. Many folks in the business know about these two. There are many boards dedicated to them. Sadly though, those folks think that he is gone.
CAN YOU ANSWER WHY HE NAMED HER IN HIS (SYMBOLIC) WILL? Didn't think so.
1. Videos of their love galore.
2. Diana's song and CD and Video/Visuals. "When you love, you don't count."
3. Evan's comments.
4. Ross's comments.
5. Children went to her concert last year at Nokia theater, LA.
6. Diana named in his will.
7. Diana's statement at Memorial - Michael was a personal love of mine. She then thanked his parents for sharing him with the world and with her.
8. MJ hooked her up with Westlife end of 2005.
9. MJ and Diana go to Christian A's birthday party in Las Vegas 2008.
In other words loser, let me see you refute anything I've posted.
And just so you can understand this. I'll type it slow. M J I S A L I V E.
Now since he is A L I V E, why would he leave his CHILDREN to Diana? Just answer that one smarty pants.
http://www.mjjboard.com/king-pop-genera ... s-278.html (http://www.mjjboard.com/king-pop-general-discussion/10518-michael-jackson-diana-ross-278.html)
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That should read when she got married in 1986. My bad!
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This one is for Souza.
Souza, please watch the video I posted by Diana Ross. I pulled it up in windows media. Guess what it has at the very end, and I kid you not.
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What in the sardines? It appears in the center of screen.Lol Do you mean to tell me that MJ used her video to plant another clue?
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Are you out of your rabbit -azz mind? You are the one showing your ignorance, because you are too lazy to research. THE LOVE OF MJ'S LIFE IS A BLACK WOMAN. Get over it!
Show me where I've quoted tabloids, and watch your nasty mouth. I've posted a video showing them together in the past, and Diana's song I Love You speaks for itself. Diana didn't mention MJ once during Oprah interview. Better yet, Oprah refused to ask any MJ questions, either because MJ told her not to or Diana did.
Read MJ's book 'Moonwalker' where he talks about Diana. He has been wuoted speaking about how he loves Diana and always will many times over the years. He talks about hos jealous and hurt he was that she got married in 2006.
Then pull up Ebony 1982/83 article where he stated that HE WANTED TO MARRY DIANA. When asked wasn't she too old, he said - "What age would you be if you didn't know how old you were." Then watch that last link. Only a fool can't see the LOVE between these two.
I mean I can go on and on. Many folks in the business know about these two. There are many boards dedicated to them. Sadly though, those folks think that he is gone.
CAN YOU ANSWER WHY HE NAMED HER IN HIS (SYMBOLIC) WILL? Didn't think so.
1. Videos of their love galore.
2. Diana's song and CD and Video/Visuals. "When you love, you don't count."
3. Evan's comments.
4. Ross's comments.
5. Children went to her concert last year at Nokia theater, LA.
6. Diana named in his will.
7. Diana's statement at Memorial - Michael was a personal love of mine. She then thanked his parents for sharing him with the world and with her.
8. MJ hooked her up with Westlife end of 2005.
9. MJ and Diana go to Christian A's birthday party in Las Vegas 2008.
In other words loser, let me see you refute anything I've posted.
And just so you can understand this. I'll type it slow. M J I S A L I V E.
Now since he is A L I V E, why would he leave his CHILDREN to Diana? Just answer that one smarty pants.
http://www.mjjboard.com/king-pop-genera ... s-278.html (http://www.mjjboard.com/king-pop-general-discussion/10518-michael-jackson-diana-ross-278.html)
Wow really?
You are presenting yourself more like the one who is out of their rabbit ass mind. I personally could care less if Michael loved a purple woman and exactly how does that effect me? It doesn't. I do not live in a fantasy world unlike some people who have followed Michael and his family since 1969 as you have said before.
FYI-I am a white woman who has a bi-racial child. Her daddy is as black as they come so your arguement about me needing to get over it is mute. You are coming across more and more every post like Pearl Jr. with her/your rascist views and hate towards white women taking the good black men. Oh yes I have been to that website and watched the hate filled rant Pearl has towards Tiger Woods. 8-) http://blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Tiger.html (http://blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Tiger.html)
I did not say you were quoting tabloid. I am saying YOU are as BAD as a Tabloid, with your gossipping rants in the last 4 or so posts you have made here. Do you think you are carrying more weight here by calling me names? :?:
You hide behind a guest name and haven't even taken the time to sign up as a respectable member and engage in a conversation. Instead you have continued to call members here names other than what the user name is.
I am far from being lazy in my investigating and research. The information you are presenting here is none of my business nor any of it is my interest. I have done all the research I have needed to do for my own sake to know the man I never knew before.
What I would suggest to you Miss diarrhea of the mind and mouth is do some research on my username and see exactly what my posts are about before you go accussing someone of something they are not.
Loser is not one of the names I would be called here...lmaoooooo
Signed once again:
Im_convincedmjalive so your ending comment to me is really MUTE!
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"Now since he is A L I V E, why would he leave his CHILDREN to Diana?"
Exactly. He is alive, so it doesn't matter what's on that paper. In other words loser, not irrevocable. Offending is easy, isn't it?