Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: reveron1958 on December 16, 2013, 05:31:39 AM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2524498/Prince-Michael-Paris-Blanket-share-emotional-insights-life-Michael-Jackson-new-documentary.html
Michael Jackson’s three children have opened up about the devastating repercussions following his sudden death and their struggle to cope without their father in an intimate new film.
Forthcoming documentary Remembering Michael Jackson will be a candid account of the family’s personal struggle to deal with the void left by the pop legend’s passing at a rented Los Angeles home in June 2009.
The film will see all three children – Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II, commonly referred to as Blanket – open up about life without Michael and share a series of never before heard stories about the reclusive star.
Paris was filmed giving her account just weeks before she attempted to take her own life at the Jackson family estate.
Speaking wistfully of her father, she admits he died before he could fulfill a promise he made to her.
She said: ‘He promised he would teach me how to moonwalk but never got around to it. I really hope his legacy lives on forever. I will never forget him ever. He was amazing.’
Paris also opened up about their detached lifestyle on Neverland Ranchl, admitting: ‘We didn’t know a lot of kids our own age. We never left the ranch that often.’
But while they rarely left the ranch, which was sold in 2005, younger brother Blanket has fond memories of his time on the sprawling California estate.
‘He had like a zoo, basically. He had giraffes, lions. He had alligators and snakes,’ he recalled. ‘You probably heard of it, but he had a chimp named Bubbles.’
In one of the film’s more stunning revelations, Prince Michael, 16, admits his father didn’t tell him his real name until he was six.
He said: ‘He never really wanted to tell us who he is as a person. It took me until I was six-years old to learn his name was Michael Jackson – he was always daddy to me and that was it.’
All three children are keen to work in the entertainment industry, with Paris – currently residing in a Utah treatment facility following her suicide attempt – hoping to become an actress.
But while grandfather Joe admits it’s ‘a lot more work than she thinks it is,’ he believes Blanket has the potential to follow in their father’s footsteps.
‘They said there would never be another Michael Jackson and I say that we already have one,’ he said. ‘But I said he just has to be trained. That kid is the spitting image of Michael when he was smaller.’
Katherine Jackson funded the new film via crowd sourcing website fundanything.com, a Kickstarter style site that gives users the opportunity to donate money to projects of their choice.
Jackson died on June 25 2009 following an overdose of powerful sedative Propofol, administered by cardiologist Dr. Conrad Murray.
Murray was released from prison earlier this year after seeing out a 2-year jail term for involuntary manslaughter, but concert promoter AIG – responsible for organising the shows – were found not liable for his death in October.
Without naming names, Paris added: ‘There are a lot of bad people out there.’
A trailer for the new film will be available to watch from 2pm exclusively at thesun.co.uk.
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wasn't there something about jermaine and the sun ( apart from the name change )? also twitter seems to be a flutter of people not being happy about the way they are funding this.
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I read that it is pay per view.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_tsmjuXXeQ[/youtube]
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Scripted much?
She's said in around 3 interviews that Michael had taught her how to moonwalk. :icon_e_confused:
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MJJC - 11 pages on this topic ... MJDHI - 3 posts!
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(https://s3.amazonaws.com/fundanything/uploads/redactor/0486ffb0d9c84cf1c38a7024c5284f0a2c411070/c7d1a981-788a-4b2c-9f3a-71460f82bbda_8cd0832541387143d5d10eb607b178cce1003886.jpg)
Interesting artwork.
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/rememberingmichael (http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/rememberingmichael)
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Ivy @Ivy_4MJ 1m
It's CONFIRMED that Howard Mann is behind KJ's documentary. Check his business partner's tweets
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/howard.jpg)
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Thanks Mary. I've been surfing around and just saw that too. The Howard Mann of the Michael Jackson Secret Vault fiasco. This somewhat explains the asking for money from fans to complete it...just like last time.
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Thanks Mary. I've been surfing around and just saw that too. The Howard Mann of the Michael Jackson Secret Vault fiasco. This somewhat explains the asking for money from fans to complete it...just like last time.
Yes and remember the Estate sued Howard Mann and they settled out-of-court.
However
"The settlement also restricts Howard Mann and his companies from using Jackson’s likeness without permission in the future"
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Thanks Mary. I've been surfing around and just saw that too. The Howard Mann of the Michael Jackson Secret Vault fiasco. This somewhat explains the asking for money from fans to complete it...just like last time.
Yes and remember the Estate sued Howard Mann and they settled out-of-court.
However
"The settlement also restricts Howard Mann and his companies from using Jackson’s likeness without permission in the future"
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(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/827904465.jpg?1387203589)
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IMO, do not take place. Howard Mann is a man who is not welcomed by the fans, it is said that he manipulates KJ. But even taking the state against.
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ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON -
The Estate of Michael Jackson has no involvement with the solicitation of funds for the completion of the purported documentary film being promoted on the FundAnything.com internet site. The Estate would never ask Michael’s fans to contribute their money to finance any speculative project.
Furthermore, the site is offering merchandise bearing the Michael Jackson name, likeness and/or trademarks which are the intellectual property of the Estate of Michael Jackson and which may be legally exploited only by the Estate and by its authorized licensees.
The Estate will continue to release only the highest quality finished, professional projects showcasing the genius and humanity of Michael such as the This Is It film and the two very successful shows with Cirque du Soleil (Immortal and ONE).
MJOnline
The Official Online Team of The Michael Jackson Estate™
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1v0MhGA3I[/youtube]
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Bugger...can't see the video here in Aus.
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MJJC - 11 pages on this topic ... MJDHI - 3 posts!
Just finished reading all 18 pages on MJJC (pfew!) and my believe in a hoax just dropped to almost zero...
I know the posts over there are not from a hoax perspective, but whichever way you look at it, in the end it seems just another money drawing project. Where is the integrity in that family? I'm not talking about the children, they are too young and are just talked into participation, just like Michael was many, many times in the past by his mother. This can't be good, this looks so so bad. I can't speak for Michael, but I HIGHLY doubt this is part of the hoax also. I think we need to face the truth: either Michael is dead, or he just couldn't take it any longer and just ran and won't come back ever again. The latter option seems not realistic, so.....
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I'm agreeing with Do. I used to be very strong believer but I'm just confused
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I don't want to think about it to much because it makes me feel sick about everything that is happening or has happened, but 'the best (the money) has yet to come' (which we took as a real hoax clue from the family) suddenly gives me a bad taste in my mouth. It feels like the family felt they had finally the opportunity (again) to make big money in Michael's name. Writing books, giving interviews, tours and performances, the ridiculous trial (with more dirt on Michael, but hey, anything for $$$....), maybe a new trial, the exploitation of the children and now a documentary for which they are asking the fans for money. I just can't believe this is all happening. Poor Michael, who adored his mother so much, would be so disappointed by her actions.
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I don't want to think about it to much because it makes me feel sick about everything that is happening or has happened, but 'the best (the money) has yet to come' (which we took as a real hoax clue from the family) suddenly gives me a bad taste in my mouth. It feels like the family felt they had finally the opportunity (again) to make big money in Michael's name. Writing books, giving interviews, tours and performances, the ridiculous trial (with more dirt on Michael, but hey, anything for $$$....), maybe a new trial, the exploitation of the children and now a documentary for which they are asking the fans for money. I just can't believe this is all happening. Poor Michael, who adored his mother so much, would be so disappointed by her actions.
Hey Do just calm down the money raising from fans is not true:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/screenftf.png)
And please stop thinking Michael is dead because he's alive, period, please don't spread pessimism among the believers community, everything will be ok and we have to see it soon, don't lose faith.
The truth is that for whatever reason Michael wants his family to earn money with his hoax and that shouldn't be bad at all he is a caring and loving soul after all, if somebody has to earn money from his name is his family, his children and himself.
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I don't want to think about it to much because it makes me feel sick about everything that is happening or has happened, but 'the best (the money) has yet to come' (which we took as a real hoax clue from the family) suddenly gives me a bad taste in my mouth. It feels like the family felt they had finally the opportunity (again) to make big money in Michael's name. Writing books, giving interviews, tours and performances, the ridiculous trial (with more dirt on Michael, but hey, anything for $$$....), maybe a new trial, the exploitation of the children and now a documentary for which they are asking the fans for money. I just can't believe this is all happening. Poor Michael, who adored his mother so much, would be so disappointed by her actions.
Hey Do just calm down the money raising from fans is not true:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/screenftf.png)
And please stop thinking Michael is dead because he's alive, period, please don't spread pessimism among the believers community, everything will be ok and we have to see it soon, don't lose faith.
The truth is that for whatever reason Michael wants his family to earn money with his hoax and that shouldn't be bad at all he is a caring and loving soul after all, if somebody has to earn money from his name is his family, his children and himself.
Sweet, how so it is not true? It's exactly what your quote is saying!
Maybe this can convince you:
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/rememberingmichael
Also in the vid in Lena's post, she asks the fans to join her and the children in finishing the project, in what way should we join then? They need 3 million!!
You're right, I'm being very pessimistic (again) but how can one not be? It's all becoming too much. And I will believe that Michael is alive when I see him in the flesh and I believe that is not going to happen. Maybe it's time for me to let go.
As for the moneymaking, I gave my opinion on that one before. To me it's morally totally incorrect to gain money based on a lie/hoax (IF this is a hoax). As if they haven't enough money yet, more than all of us together, will see in our lifetime! It's bad, Sweet, real bad. And think about it, if this (asking for money) is not true, why hasn't she, or her lawyers, denied it today?
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I don't want to think about it to much because it makes me feel sick about everything that is happening or has happened, but 'the best (the money) has yet to come' (which we took as a real hoax clue from the family) suddenly gives me a bad taste in my mouth. It feels like the family felt they had finally the opportunity (again) to make big money in Michael's name. Writing books, giving interviews, tours and performances, the ridiculous trial (with more dirt on Michael, but hey, anything for $$$....), maybe a new trial, the exploitation of the children and now a documentary for which they are asking the fans for money. I just can't believe this is all happening. Poor Michael, who adored his mother so much, would be so disappointed by her actions.
Hey Do just calm down the money raising from fans is not true:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/screenftf.png)
And please stop thinking Michael is dead because he's alive, period, please don't spread pessimism among the believers community, everything will be ok and we have to see it soon, don't lose faith.
The truth is that for whatever reason Michael wants his family to earn money with his hoax and that shouldn't be bad at all he is a caring and loving soul after all, if somebody has to earn money from his name is his family, his children and himself.
Agree sweet.....if Michael wants this will have his reasons, he is behind all...only waiting for.. :moonwalk_:
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Jackson Source @JacksonSource 3m
Just so you know @princemjjjaxon says Mrs Jackson is not behind "Rememberring Michael" documentary film
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/notkj.jpg)
:Pulling_hair:
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Thanks Mary for sharing.... (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/copains-9247.gif)
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Thanks Mary. I've been surfing around and just saw that too. The Howard Mann of the Michael Jackson Secret Vault fiasco. This somewhat explains the asking for money from fans to complete it...just like last time.
Yes and remember the Estate sued Howard Mann and they settled out-of-court.
However
"The settlement also restricts Howard Mann and his companies from using Jackson’s likeness without permission in the future"
I remember this TMZ article about Howard Mann, which has been discussed on this forum before.
MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
1/20/2011 7:15 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF
Katherine Jackson's business partner illegally made millions of bucks from Michael Jackson's music, photos and drawings -- this according to a lawsuit filed by MJ's Estate and obtained by TMZ.
The MJ Estate has sued Howard Mann -- the guy behind MichaelJacksonSecretVault.com -- claiming Mann has duped fans into believing his website was kosher ... when it was in fact, "rife with illegal uses of Michael Jackson intellectual property."
According to the lawsuit, Mann displayed "arrogant disregard" for the Estate's copyrights on all things MJ ... and wrongfully published clips, artwork and trailers from "This Is It" -- content from the "Thriller: 25th Anniversary Edition" CD and much, much more.
The Estate also accuses Mann of posting an "unreleased" MJ song called "Opis None" ... which in reality, was a remix of the song "Destiny" which The Jacksons released in 1979. The Estate claims Mann had no right to publish the song ... and the confusion he caused damaged the MJ Estate.
The Estate also claims Mann published several sketches that MJ drew himself ... including one titled, "Bubbles Chair" ... as well as a number of copyrighted photographs in Katherine Jackson's coffee table book, "Never Can Say Goodbye."
The Estate believes Mann hauled in more than $1.5 million in sales from the book in its first two days -- money that rightfully belongs to the Jackson Estate.
The Estate wants to recoup all of the revenues Mann raked in from the sale and publication of the Estate's property ... plus punitive damages -- which surely could be in the tens of millions.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/20/-michael-jackson-estate-lawsuit-copyright-infringement-this-is-it-michaeljacksonsecretvalut-katherine-jackson-federal-property-money/#ixzz2nsQyXZhN
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Statement from the Michael Jackson Estate about the FundAnything.com documentary
We have received the following statement from the Michael Jackson Estate:
The Estate of Michael Jackson has no involvement with the solicitation of funds for the completion of the purported documentary film being promoted on the FundAnything.com internet site. The Estate would never ask Michael’s fans to contribute their money to finance any speculative project.
Furthermore, the site is offering merchandise bearing the Michael Jackson name, likeness and/or trademarks which are the intellectual property of the Estate of Michael Jackson and which may be legally exploited only by the Estate and by its authorized licensees.
The Estate will continue to release only the highest quality finished, professional projects showcasing the genius and humanity of Michael such as the This Is It film and the two very successful shows with Cirque du Soleil (Immortal and ONE).
http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/news/statement-from-the-michael-jackson-estate-about-the-fundanything-com-documentary/?
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Jackson Source @JacksonSource 3m
Just so you know @princemjjjaxon says Mrs Jackson is not behind "Rememberring Michael" documentary film
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/notkj.jpg)
:Pulling_hair:
Last night I was talking to William Wagener, and told me that Howard Mann is not behind the documentary. If KJ, do not. So who drives it? :WTF:
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^^^^^just damage control.
Haven't you seen the giant backlash? It IS Katherine who was asking fans to participate, no one else. It's all ridiculous. And Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2524498/Prince-Michael-Paris-Blanket-share-emotional-insights-life-Michael-Jackson-new-documentary.html
Michael Jackson’s three children have opened up about the devastating repercussions following his sudden death and their struggle to cope without their father in an intimate new film.
Forthcoming documentary Remembering Michael Jackson will be a candid account of the family’s personal struggle to deal with the void left by the pop legend’s passing at a rented Los Angeles home in June 2009.
The film will see all three children – Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II, commonly referred to as Blanket – open up about life without Michael and share a series of never before heard stories about the reclusive star.
Paris was filmed giving her account just weeks before she attempted to take her own life at the Jackson family estate.
Speaking wistfully of her father, she admits he died before he could fulfill a promise he made to her.
She said: ‘He promised he would teach me how to moonwalk but never got around to it. I really hope his legacy lives on forever. I will never forget him ever. He was amazing.’
Paris also opened up about their detached lifestyle on Neverland Ranchl, admitting: ‘We didn’t know a lot of kids our own age. We never left the ranch that often.’
But while they rarely left the ranch, which was sold in 2005, younger brother Blanket has fond memories of his time on the sprawling California estate.
‘He had like a zoo, basically. He had giraffes, lions. He had alligators and snakes,’ he recalled. ‘You probably heard of it, but he had a chimp named Bubbles.’
In one of the film’s more stunning revelations, Prince Michael, 16, admits his father didn’t tell him his real name until he was six.
He said: ‘He never really wanted to tell us who he is as a person. It took me until I was six-years old to learn his name was Michael Jackson – he was always daddy to me and that was it.’
All three children are keen to work in the entertainment industry, with Paris – currently residing in a Utah treatment facility following her suicide attempt – hoping to become an actress.
But while grandfather Joe admits it’s ‘a lot more work than she thinks it is,’ he believes Blanket has the potential to follow in their father’s footsteps.
‘They said there would never be another Michael Jackson and I say that we already have one,’ he said. ‘But I said he just has to be trained. That kid is the spitting image of Michael when he was smaller.’
Katherine Jackson funded the new film via crowd sourcing website fundanything.com, a Kickstarter style site that gives users the opportunity to donate money to projects of their choice.
Jackson died on June 25 2009 following an overdose of powerful sedative Propofol, administered by cardiologist Dr. Conrad Murray.
Murray was released from prison earlier this year after seeing out a 2-year jail term for involuntary manslaughter, but concert promoter AIG – responsible for organising the shows – were found not liable for his death in October.
Without naming names, Paris added: ‘There are a lot of bad people out there.’
A trailer for the new film will be available to watch from 2pm exclusively at thesun.co.uk.
I am very curious if people will ever realize that they are duped :icon_geek: .As it goes, I would say :icon_rolleyes:......... NEVER :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :LolLolLolLol: !!!
Just beLIEve !!!!
(http://www.netanimations.net/dancing-santa-reindeer.gif)
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Who's behind this? Well, if we believe in a hoax, don't we have to conclude that it's MJ himself behind this? Make of that what you will.
@Applehead, 'Just believe' what exactly?
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^^^^^just damage control.
Haven't you seen the giant backlash? It IS Katherine who was asking fans to participate, no one else. It's all ridiculous. And Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
@Do sorry you are missing the point, Katherine Jackson asking money to MJ fans?? I mean come on.
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^^^^^just damage control.
Haven't you seen the giant backlash? It IS Katherine who was asking fans to participate, no one else. It's all ridiculous. And Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
@Do sorry you are missing the point, Katherine Jackson asking money to MJ fans?? I mean come on.
Sweet, you obviously missing the point or haven't read all available info. Were do you get your information from if i may ask? Sorry, I don't want to sound harsh, but i believe you are very much in denial...
This is what katherine is saying in her vid:
'Next year is the fifth anniversary of Michael's passing. We miss Michael very much and this film shows how much we love him. If Michael was here, his words would be, "I love you more."
I'm inviting all of Michael's fans to join me, Prince, Paris and Blanket to finish this wonderful project. Please join us. I'd love to have you.'
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/rememberingmichael
Contributions of $3,200,000 goal
Here is a good post from Ivy of MJJC which sums it all up. I really suggest to go read on this subject over there, because they have good info.
Suddenly news breaks and there's a video, a funding page that asks for $3.2 Million for Katherine Jackson documentary. Even if people love and support Katherine 100%, this is something that doesn't necessarily sit well with the fans for many reasons. Such as even simply asking fans for financial support and the money being asked to pay for MJ Estate. Fans also suspected that Howard Mann could be involved in it simply based on the fact that he had a contract with Katherine for a documentary. Mann's past (porn, infringing MJ's copyrights, connection to Vaccaro and so on) casts a shadow on this documentary.
Combined all together no one - not even 100% supporters of Katherine - can support this documentary so suddenly the mood turns defensive. Try to deflect it to Howard Mann and Howard Mann only. It is claimed that Katherine doesn't know, isn't aware of money being asked and it's all Howard Mann and so on. It's all to deflect all the anger and unhappiness on Howard Mann and to spare Katherine in the process.
Now from Sonia Lowe's tweets/ Linkedin we know she and Howard Mann is involved in this documentary but there's nothing to suggest that Katherine is a unwilling participant. Let's go over what we know : She signed a contract with Howard Mann, she supported him when Estate sued him, Mann was still around late 2012 having access to AEG emails. So as far as we know she is still partners with Mann and made no effort to get out of the contract.
Joe Jackson's publicist emailed me saying this is exclusively Katherine and MJ's kids project. Apparently she also contacted to a Hoax Website (don't ask me why) saying the same thing. William Wagener saying that a person closed to Katherine contacted to him saying this is her project and the video - the one she's wearing a blue dress and asking fans for help- was just recorded last week (2 days before the release of the project). I emailed Katherine's lawyers Sanders and Ribera asking to verify this project so no one gets scammed. I know other fans emailing and calling them as well. They don't respond or return calls. So when combined people close to Joe confirm this is Katherine's project and Katherine's lawyers aren't saying "no this is a scam". Silence can also speak volumes. So however you look to it, this is an official project supported and endorsed by Katherine.
So from my perspective, this is a Katherine Jackson project and she's a willing participant. Yes Mann / Lowe is involved as well but I don't personally think this is Mann and Lowe alone. To believe that there needs to be an official announcement by Katherine. No disrespect to fans but their assumptions do not count as facts to me, I need verifiable receipts.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/131323-Katherine-Jackson-documentary-called-quot-Remembering-Michael-quot-fans-asked-to-help-with-funding/page21
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Jackson Source @JacksonSource 3m
Just so you know @princemjjjaxon says Mrs Jackson is not behind "Rememberring Michael" documentary film
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/notkj.jpg)
:Pulling_hair:
Looks fake, princemjjjackson is not princemjjjaxon
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Who's behind this? Well, if we believe in a hoax, don't we have to conclude that it's MJ himself behind this? Make of that what you will.
@Applehead, 'Just believe' what exactly?
:th_bravo:
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Welcome, fans. I would like to share an opportunity for you to join our circle of family and friends to celebrate the life and legacy of my son Michael Jackson.
It involves a tribute documentary film project that Michael’s children Paris, Prince, Blanket and I have been working on for a few years. Our goal with this film is to share a positive, loving and respectful tribute to Michael, who spent his entire life sharing his gifts with the great hope of making the world a better place.
The nearly finished documentary film project is a partnership between myself and co-Executive Producer, Terry Kunimune. It is filled with heart-warming anecdotes, rare photos from my personal collection, and many untold stories by his friends and family about Michael during some of the most pivotal moments in his life.
Telling Michael’s story from his family’s point of view needs to feature many video clips and musical moments that are an integral part of telling his life story. However, because it is Michael, the cost to license everything is prohibitively expensive, and why I am asking you, his fans, to join our circle and help support the completion of the documentary film.
In order to show our appreciation for your support, Michael’s children and I have created a limited collection of rewards not available in stores, but made available exclusively to his contributing fans.
Please join our circle of friends and family as I remember my son, as the children remember their father, and as we all remember our Michael. I thank you for your continued support.
Katherine Jackson
- See more at: http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/rememberingmichael#sthash.xr5sYIqG.dpuf
KJ Documentary video is no longer available in USA (and also not in my country) and all rewards / merchandise is gone from the site.
Before the entire contents disappear, I copied the accompanying text from the fundraising page.
Edit: what's going to happen with the money people already have donated?
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KJ Documentary video is no longer available in USA (and also not in my country) and all rewards / merchandise is gone from the site.
Before the entire contents disappear, I copied the accompanying text from the fundraising page.
Edit: what's going to happen with the money people already have donated?
Video still available in the UK, but rewards etc have gone. Now, a couple of hours later, the entire thing has gone!
As for money already donated:
"After you share your campaign, you’ll begin receiving contributions that will be deposited directly into your account. This money is yours to keep. No repayment is ever required." - See more at: http://fundanything.com/en/how#how
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Who's behind this? Well, if we believe in a hoax, don't we have to conclude that it's MJ himself behind this? Make of that what you will.
@Applehead, 'Just believe' what exactly?
Curly,there is no need for explication,the word speaks for itself ;) : beLIEve .
BTW ,Mrs.Jackson is not asking for money ( SweetSunset this time you are right :-* :icon_e_wink: ) ,she( Michael) just needs fan's help to complete someTHING,till exactly 31 january 2014 :icon_eek: :icon_cool: .Coincidence? I think not :icon_cool: .
As Lil Wayne said in Mirror song :"I see the love in disguise".......“I see the truth in your lies” .
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLUa8JUR18[/youtube]
I can see it,that's for sure :icon_mrgreen: .
And now ladies and gentelmans the latest news say this
"[They want] to make it exciting for Michael's fans and to allow them to participate in the project," says the source, who notes this is Katherine and the kids' project exclusively.
The family plans to vacation together over the holidays in Hawaii. :penguin:
Happy holidays to everyone,my dear family :) :bearhug: !!!! :penguin:
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Curly,there is no need for explication,the word speaks for itself ;) : beLIEve .
Sorry, but that's just an old, worn out hoaxer's word that means nothing unless you explain what exactly you're urging us to believe in. Believe MJ's alive, believe he's well and happy, believe he's in total control, believe he's coming back, believe he's behind everything, believe everything's gonna be alright, believe in Father Christmas?!
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BTW ,Mrs.Jackson is not asking for money ( SweetSunset this time you are right :-* :icon_e_wink: )
This time and many others :icon_lol:
The family plans to vacation together over the holidays in Hawaii. :penguin:
Like Obama family :icon_e_geek:
P.S: Btw Souza the forum looks cool with Christmas atmosphere.
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ZnHJsXPKM[/youtube]
and.......
UPDATE FRIDAY 11PM: The fundanything.com page for “Remembering Michael” is kaput, gone, vanished from the company’s website completely. So much for this latest attempt to exploit Michael Jackson’s memory.
EARLIER FRIDAY The end may be near for Katherine Jackson’s FundAnything appeal. I told you first and exclusively that Mrs. Jackson (with silent partners Sonia Lowe and Howard Mann) had put up a crowdfunding drive to raise money for a documentary called “Remembering Michael.”
The appeal offered donors several different options from $10 up to $6,000. For different amounts, donors could receive in exchange a Michael Jackson baseball hat, or more elaborate memorabilia like photographs or online access to the doc.
Alas, it is all gone now. All the items have been removed. All that’s left is a chance to donate to the film. So far Mrs. Jackson has raised a paltry $4,275– and a lot of ire. Jackson fans, who are very astute at this point, regard the whole thing as a scam. They say so in the comments section of the FundAnything page.
What a crazy plan this was: Mrs. Jackson doesn’t own the rights to Michael’s image or his music. She tried an end run around the Estate–John Branca, John McClain, and Howard Weitzman. Why didn’t she have her attorney set up a meeting and ask the Estate to help her do this? These things always end in tears and recriminations. I don’t think it will be long before the appeal is removed altogether.
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/12/20/katherine-jacksons-fundanything-appeal-for-documentary-removes-all-donor-benefits
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
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BTW ,Mrs.Jackson is not asking for money ( SweetSunset this time you are right :-* :icon_e_wink: )
This time and many others :icon_lol: .
She didn't ASK DIRECTLY (speaking the words from her mouth) for money, you have to 'read between the lines' (very hoaxy :errrr:)
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
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For me, the whole project had "Howard Mann" written all over. From the start.
And I won´t lie: I will be happy if it never happens.
Nothing hoaxy for me there.
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
If at this point you think Michael might be dead it means you have never been a beLIEver.
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
If at this point you think Michael might be dead it means you have never been a beLIEver.
Don't care what it means. I believed, based on all what I saw and read and all the 'clues' after Michael's passing, that there might be a hoax. I hoped it was a hoax. A hoax to make us see how we can be fooled by the media, how doctors are giving too much medication, how dark powers are ruling our world etc. A hoax to clear Michael's name and to vindicate him for once and for all. We've passed that station long time ago. I still believe, I believe I was in denial...
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
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I just realized something. What if it really started out as Michael's (longplanned?) hoax, but something unexpected went wrong with him along the way and someone else (like the family) took over, but are doing a fairly poor job? Could that explain the latest 'disasters'?
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
I always thought this was also part of the Michael's plan ... :moonwalk_: arrive at BAM along with those who have not lost hope and faith :moonwalk_: :icon_e_wink:
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
I always thought this was also part of the Michael's plan ... :moonwalk_: arrive at BAM along with those who have not lost hope and faith :moonwalk_: :icon_e_wink:
Yes, we talked about that long time ago. But I can't imagine that the damage that now is done to his legacy, i.c. the mud about him in the trials, the suicide attempt of Paris, the new allegations of WR, the backlash on Katherine, the crazy talk from Murray (I can go on and on) is also part of the plan. It will be working fairly against him after a comeback in my opinion. You have to remember that not his whole fan base (and the rest of the world) has followed these 4,5 years through hoax glasses.
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
I always thought this was also part of the Michael's plan ... :moonwalk_: arrive at BAM along with those who have not lost hope and faith :moonwalk_: :icon_e_wink:
Yes, we talked about that long time ago. But I can't imagine that the damage that now is done to his legacy, i.c. the mud about him in the trials, the suicide attempt of Paris, the new allegations of WR, the backlash on Katherine, the crazy talk from Murray (I can go on and on) is also part of the plan. It will be working fairly against him after a comeback in my opinion. You have to remember that not his whole fan base (and the rest of the world) has followed these 4,5 years through hoax glasses.
Yes, and for this is most important, every day, to be here...united in this great adventure.
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Guys...I am asking if any of you know what is going on with this? And who operates and runs this Triumph International company? Is is connected to Howard Man somehow? Or completely unrelated to this doco we are talking about in this thread. I can always move it later.
"On Friday, December 06, 2013, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for MICHAELFEST by TRIUMPH INTERNATIONAL, INC., Los Angeles, CA 900676406. The USPTO has given the MICHAELFEST trademark serial number of 86137205. The current federal status of this trademark filing is NEW APPLICATION - RECORD INITIALIZED NOT ASSIGNED TO EXAMINER. The correspondent listed for MICHAELFEST is JEFFREY M. SMITH, ESQ., KRISTEN L. FANCH of GREENBERG TRAURIG, LLP, 3333 PIEDMONT RD NE SUITE 2500, ATLANTA, GA 30305 . The MICHAELFEST trademark is filed in the category of Education and Entertainment Services . The description provided to the USPTO for MICHAELFEST is Entertainment in the nature of live stage performances in the nature of tribute concerts; entertainment services, namely, televised performances featuring tribute concerts; entertainment services, namely, an ongoing series featuring music and dance provided through the internet, television, satellite, and audio media; film, theater, radio, videotape and television program production services; entertainment in the nature of a continuing television drama series, entertainment in the nature of a continuing television comedy series; entertainment in the nature of television news shows; music publishing services; song writing services; audio recording and production; record and music production; recording studio services; magazine publication services; providing recreational activities facilities for others; recreational camps; recreational park services; amusement parks; art exhibitions; dance instruction; entertainment services, namely, operating a museum and providing guided tours of the museum; providing theme park services; dance events; dance schools; dance studios; museums; entertainment services, namely, providing podcasts in the field of music; entertainment services, namely, providing information and commentary online in the field of music; providing newsletters in the field of music via e-mail; entertainment services, namely, providing pre-recorded music, video and graphics, providing information in the field of music, and commentary and articles about music, all on-line; providing an Internet website portal featuring musical performances, musical videos, film clips, photographs and other multimedia materials featuring music and/or visual representations of Michael Jackson such as footage or photographs; fan club services; educational services, namely conducting classes, seminars, conferences, and workshops in the field of music and entertainment."
Source: http://www.trademarkia.com/michaelfest-86137205.html
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Guys...I am asking if any of you know what is going on with this? And who operates and runs this Triumph International company? Is is connected to Howard Man somehow? Or completely unrelated to this doco we are talking about in this thread. I can always move it later.
"On Friday, December 06, 2013, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for MICHAELFEST by TRIUMPH INTERNATIONAL, INC., Los Angeles, CA 900676406. The USPTO has given the MICHAELFEST trademark serial number of 86137205. The current federal status of this trademark filing is NEW APPLICATION - RECORD INITIALIZED NOT ASSIGNED TO EXAMINER. The correspondent listed for MICHAELFEST is JEFFREY M. SMITH, ESQ., KRISTEN L. FANCH of GREENBERG TRAURIG, LLP, 3333 PIEDMONT RD NE SUITE 2500, ATLANTA, GA 30305 . The MICHAELFEST trademark is filed in the category of Education and Entertainment Services . The description provided to the USPTO for MICHAELFEST is Entertainment in the nature of live stage performances in the nature of tribute concerts; entertainment services, namely, televised performances featuring tribute concerts; entertainment services, namely, an ongoing series featuring music and dance provided through the internet, television, satellite, and audio media; film, theater, radio, videotape and television program production services; entertainment in the nature of a continuing television drama series, entertainment in the nature of a continuing television comedy series; entertainment in the nature of television news shows; music publishing services; song writing services; audio recording and production; record and music production; recording studio services; magazine publication services; providing recreational activities facilities for others; recreational camps; recreational park services; amusement parks; art exhibitions; dance instruction; entertainment services, namely, operating a museum and providing guided tours of the museum; providing theme park services; dance events; dance schools; dance studios; museums; entertainment services, namely, providing podcasts in the field of music; entertainment services, namely, providing information and commentary online in the field of music; providing newsletters in the field of music via e-mail; entertainment services, namely, providing pre-recorded music, video and graphics, providing information in the field of music, and commentary and articles about music, all on-line; providing an Internet website portal featuring musical performances, musical videos, film clips, photographs and other multimedia materials featuring music and/or visual representations of Michael Jackson such as footage or photographs; fan club services; educational services, namely conducting classes, seminars, conferences, and workshops in the field of music and entertainment."
Source: http://www.trademarkia.com/michaelfest-86137205.html
Triumph International
Triumph International, Inc. is The Estate of Michael Jackson’s wholly-owned merchandise licensing company.
Triumph International Inc. is a corporation that was formed by and wholly owned by Michael Jackson during his life. It continues to own numerous trademarks and other intellectual property associated with his career. Triumph is now wholly owned by his estate, with Co-Executors John Branca and John McClain serving as the corporation’s sole directors and officers.
http://www.seeglobalentertainment.com/partners/triumph-international/ (http://www.seeglobalentertainment.com/partners/triumph-international/)
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:moonwalk_:Thanks Mary. I once knew that bit of information, but it was hidden amongst 4 years of confusing and be-fuddled thoughts. Thanks for helping me retrieve it. :-[
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
Watching.
I don't believe Ms. KJ is stupid or greedy so there's more to the story we just don't know. Just like everything else. I'll leave it at that.
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I am watching,and i think there are many more like me.
But i understand Do.
Last year i prommised myself to wait it out til October if nothing happens i let it go.
Without Michael comming out of hiding there is nothing i can do.
People get angry at me wen i start talking about anything concerns Michael,wen i defend him..so what is the purpose? they wont believe me.
But i cant let go, with all i learned and saw from day one,i know there is something huge going on.
I know he is alive,but it is getting really hard to still believe it is all for love and Michael is behind it all i dont know anymore.
I am also at the lowest point of my believe in 4 1/2 years.
But i am waching..hoping for the best and relief for al of us being in this emotional rollercoaster for years! :bearhug:
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I am watching,and i think there are many more like me.
But i understand Do.
Last year i prommised myself to wait it out til October if nothing happens i let it go.
Without Michael comming out of hiding there is nothing i can do.
People get angry at me wen i start talking about anything concerns Michael,wen i defend him..so what is the purpose? they wont believe me.
But i cant let go, with all i learned and saw from day one,i know there is something huge going on.
I know he is alive,but it is getting really hard to still believe it is all for love and Michael is behind it all i dont know anymore.
I am also at the lowest point of my believe in 4 1/2 years.
But i am waching..hoping for the best and relief for al of us being in this emotional rollercoaster for years! :bearhug:
Hey Mattie, nice to see you posting!
I know what you are talking about, I'm going through the same, except that I'm not 100% convinced that he is alive (to protect myself and because of the fact that we COULD be wrong). I can't let go, and some people are asking me (not many know that I believe that michael might still be alive): 'Are you still believing that he is alive???' And then they look at me with a pityingly face.
My believe is almost dropped to zero but I'm not at the point of totally giving up yet.
Also to the rest of the hoaxers: thank you for your patience with me. I sometimes react in an emotional impulse but I always try to behave!
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I am always watching out for the BAM.I may not post much,but I truly believe something will happen,I have just given up on when it will happen.
"However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows."
and no I don't think MJ is Jesus or God,but I do think God has a hand in everything that happens in this world. No matter how much I believe,I still will be :shocked: when and if a Bam ever occurs.MJ school the world! :bearhug:
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Bec:
I don't believe Ms. KJ is stupid or greedy so there's more to the story we just don't know. Just like everything else. I'll leave it at that.
Exactly!!
Mattie:
I am watching,and i think there are many more like me.
But i understand Do.
Last year i prommised myself to wait it out til October if nothing happens i let it go.
Without Michael comming out of hiding there is nothing i can do.
People get angry at me wen i start talking about anything concerns Michael,wen i defend him..so what is the purpose? they wont believe me.
But i cant let go, with all i learned and saw from day one,i know there is something huge going on.
I know he is alive,but it is getting really hard to still believe it is all for love and Michael is behind it all i dont know anymore.
I am also at the lowest point of my believe in 4 1/2 years.
But i am waching..hoping for the best and relief for al of us being in this emotional rollercoaster for years!
Me too!!
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
Watching.
I don't believe Ms. KJ is stupid or greedy so there's more to the story we just don't know. Just like everything else. I'll leave it at that.
Agree :moonwalk_:
However for me to be here is not wait for the BAM, but to be close to Michael, whatever his decision will be. :moonwalk_:
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I am watching,and i think there are many more like me.
But i understand Do.
Last year i prommised myself to wait it out til October if nothing happens i let it go.
Without Michael comming out of hiding there is nothing i can do.
People get angry at me wen i start talking about anything concerns Michael,wen i defend him..so what is the purpose? they wont believe me.
But i cant let go, with all i learned and saw from day one,i know there is something huge going on.
I know he is alive,but it is getting really hard to still believe it is all for love and Michael is behind it all i dont know anymore.
I am also at the lowest point of my believe in 4 1/2 years.
But i am waching..hoping for the best and relief for al of us being in this emotional rollercoaster for years! :bearhug:
greedy people in the show biz? That could be And as you see notmany fans didn't fall in the trap of donations!
Hi Do,
I can understand you and I totally agree with mattie and bec. We're all watching. And if I were you I would sit back and relax because there is really nothing to be so nervous about. As you know MJ is in control of his hoax and he is the one who is pulling the strings. When I first heard about that family project and Mrs. Jackson asking the fans for donations I smelt something fishy! What if this is exactly the plan? What if MJ wants to expose those greedy people in the show biz?? I guess it's better to keep watching because there is more to come. My advise to you is to sit back and relax and watch because there is nothing else we can do at the moment.
Blessings
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Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
How so?
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Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
How so?
I don't think it is distasteful at all.
But this doco. I dunno, doesn't seem hoaxy at all.
I am getting complacent I must say.... I feel all 'meh' at the moment...
I'll get over it. Just feel bored and tired.
I think it's the hot Aussie days, house moving, my incurred concussion, summer days and end of year partying that's *really* making me tired though. Hopefully after silly season I can get my hoax fire burning again. But right now, have to say, I'm not feeling it.
At the mo just feel bored and tired, feel like nothing is going anywhere.
Sorry to complain. Not looking for sympathy. Have an abundance of faith and know he is alive, don't get me wrong.
Just really really really bored....
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Ditto. But it's got nothing to do with the weather. I believe he is alive but I don't know what the hell happened.
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Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
How so?
I don't think it is distasteful at all.
Aussie, what I mean is that Blanket is Blanket, not a Michael Jackson clone (people say: 'there will never be another Michael Jackson' and Joe says: 'we already have one'.) If Blanket is 'forced' to be the next MJ, people are automatically going to compare him to Michael. That is much pressure on a young child (and don't we all know how Joe 'trained' Michael and his brothers?). There is no need to increase such pressure, and I feel it's just not Joe's job to do so. If Blanket wants to sing and dance (I don't know if he wants to if he learns how his father was treated all his life) than that's okay. But as Blanket (or Prince II) not as the 'new' Michael Jackson.
But right now, just feel bored and tired, feel like nothing is going anywhere.
Sorry to complain. Not looking for sympathy. Have an abundance of faith and know he is alive, don't get me wrong.
You aren't complaining at all! I'm in the same mood (so is Bec!)
There's a lot on your plate with house moving on hot days, so if you want to complain...please complain!! Is there a lot of work left, unpacking boxes, painting, cleaning etc.?
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And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
Watching.
I don't believe Ms. KJ is stupid or greedy so there's more to the story we just don't know. Just like everything else. I'll leave it at that.
Agree :moonwalk_:
However for me to be here is not wait for the BAM, but to be close to Michael, whatever his decision will be. :moonwalk_:
TOUCHE my friend ;) :bearhug: !!!!
Oh boy,this is so NOT over :icon_cool: .This is so exciting and I can't wait for THE MOMENT when this Katherine'S FILM will be finally ready.I'm telling you guys,you all will be in tears :'( .I have already started to fulfill her request, to complete this wonderful project and.......to cry also,because the emotions are too strong ,not to :-* .
Michael ,I LOVE you .......I will always LOVE you :-* :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug: .
Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to everyone :-* :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug:!!!!!
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
If at this point you think Michael might be dead it means you have never been a beLIEver.
Don't care what it means. I believed, based on all what I saw and read and all the 'clues' after Michael's passing, that there might be a hoax. I hoped it was a hoax. A hoax to make us see how we can be fooled by the media, how doctors are giving too much medication, how dark powers are ruling our world etc. A hoax to clear Michael's name and to vindicate him for once and for all. We've passed that station long time ago. I still believe, I believe I was in denial...
Hi "DO" :). So, as you are still on the Hoax Coach, PASSED your "stop", are you saying we should call you "Do Not"? :icon_razz: Are you saying that you feel like a lone captive on a runaway train with no driver?
Well then! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: You are STILL in the Twilight Zone, no matter how much denial you are in, heh heh heh. :affraid: Hold On! :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red I think the rest of your cronies are just hiding and watching, biting their nails, as the train goes into warp. The Puppet Master's antics are on script. All is well! :bearhug: :bearhug: SOMEone give this :screaming-7365: child a COOKIE! ;D :multiplespotting: Ho Ho Hooooooooo :icon_exclaim: :michael_jackson-1135: :TongueOutSmiley:
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I don't post much but always here reading.
I will always BELIEVE THAT HE IS ALIVE AND DOING FINE.
he may decide to never come out or he may BAM some day but what ever his
decision is i stand by it with all my heart, and i will never give up.
He has a wonderful family and it's he time to enjoy them. AMEN
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO MICHAEL AND HIS FAMILY :bearhug:
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Ditto. But it's got nothing to do with the weather. I believe he is alive but I don't know what the hell happened.
I agree, it's not a matter of losing faith and say MJ has died. I understand and share the desepcion.
All have the potential dates, also missed the course of events, which were to happen, supposed, we were wrong. Or maybe something is not quite ready for the return of MJ. Perhaps never will be, but this does not change my stance, MJ is alive.
We're seeing things we do not like, and I think MJ saw this long ago.
God wants us to have the answers. I'll be here. :bearhug:
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Joe who wants to 'train' Blanket to be the next MJ. So distasteful.
How so?
I don't think it is distasteful at all.
Aussie, what I mean is that Blanket is Blanket, not a Michael Jackson clone (people say: 'there will never be another Michael Jackson' and Joe says: 'we already have one'.) If Blanket is 'forced' to be the next MJ, people are automatically going to compare him to Michael. That is much pressure on a young child (and don't we all know how Joe 'trained' Michael and his brothers?). There is no need to increase such pressure, and I feel it's just not Joe's job to do so. If Blanket wants to sing and dance (I don't know if he wants to if he learns how his father was treated all his life) than that's okay. But as Blanket (or Prince II) not as the 'new' Michael Jackson.
Get what you are saying. Agree to an extent. However without Joe's 'style' of training/pressure, who knows we may not be sitting here today...
Devil's advocate. But agree with the pressures on child stars.
But right now, just feel bored and tired, feel like nothing is going anywhere.
Sorry to complain. Not looking for sympathy. Have an abundance of faith and know he is alive, don't get me wrong.
You aren't complaining at all! I'm in the same mood (so is Bec!)
There's a lot on your plate with house moving on hot days, so if you want to complain...please complain!! Is there a lot of work left, unpacking boxes, painting, cleaning etc.?
Meh the unpacking and sorting can wait. I fell two weeks ago and smacked the back of my skull on wet tiles. I'll survive. Not a big complainer.
Just want this hoax to get moving... Are ppl supposed to be working this out by now? Or not? Is there supposed to be a reveal? A joint reveal? No reveal? These trials and too and fro's BTW AEG and KJ/Estate anytime soon will they wrap them up or just continue to find new things? (car parking puh-lease! - insert eye roll) These doco's with KJ? What about JJ's doco, what the hell happened to that? What was it even called? The Architect??? Lundons? WTH? When is Murray dropping his so called bomb of nuclear proportions? What about rectifying the inference that MJ was a ped on 60 minutes? An announcement or a book, or second interview? Anything?? What about TIAI? Nothing! Nada! Zilch! Wade still spruking about MJ being a ped and no one on team hoax resolving it. Too many incomplete projects and loose ends. All frikken carrots that (feel like) they lead to nowhere. I wan't action baby!
Feels as though it is regressing not progressing. I know its not bc MJ is on control and has it worked out and a plan, yada yada, but have to say I'm bored as BatSh*t lol
Rant over.
Sorry.
Know its not about me.
#vindication
#epicmovie
#punkthemedia
#beatthriller
#beatelvis
#arg
#entertainment
#etc
But just sayin'
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Hi "DO" :). So, as you are still on the Hoax Coach, PASSED your "stop", are you saying we should call you "Do Not"? :icon_razz: Are you saying that you feel like a lone captive on a runaway train with no driver?
Well then! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: You are STILL in the Twilight Zone, no matter how much denial you are in, heh heh heh. :affraid: Hold On! :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red I think the rest of your cronies are just hiding and watching, biting their nails, as the train goes into warp. The Puppet Master's antics are on script. All is well! :bearhug: :bearhug: SOMEone give this :screaming-7365: child a COOKIE! ;D :multiplespotting: Ho Ho Hooooooooo :icon_exclaim: :michael_jackson-1135: :TongueOutSmiley:
Hi Its her!
I must admit you always write very positive and uplifting postst! Thank you for that! But don't you (maybe just a tad) agree that we passed the station of possitivism years ago? When 'the world' finally saw Michael as a truly mesmerizing, musical genius, king of pop again after his passing? And that we are almost back at square one after 4,5 years with al the crazy trials and accusations and negative press about him and his family? I can't emphasize enough that's it's not just about us (the hoaxers) but also about the rest of the world. Do you feel that the world will embrace him again when he should bam, or do you feel that they are finally, totally convinced that he and his family are the 'wacko's', due to their latest, worldwide 'scam'? Because I believe many will perceive it that way. Sure, some will think that they got lied to by the media and will start to think for themselves, but the majority will be lazy and will not do their own investigation.
How do you know that all is well? Can you explain please, because nothing on this hoax sits well to me right now! I would love to know the possitive signs!
Now please give me that cookie! :icon_lol:
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To: author=Australian MJ BeLIEver link=topic=24214.msg448999#msg448999 date=1388124912]
(Sorry, I messed up the quotes!!)
Get what you are saying. Agree to an extent. However without Joe's 'style' of training/pressure, who knows we may not be sitting here.....
Don't know about that. Determination brings you were you want to be. Beatings and fear aren't necessary AND totally undesirable. Look how much it influenced his personal life. Talent, willpower, charisma, character etc. have made Michael to be who he is. His brothers have had the same 'training', but are nowhere near Michael's achievements.
Meh the unpacking and sorting can wait. I fell two weeks ago and smacked the back of my skull on wet tiles. I'll survive. Not a big complainer.
Just want this hoax to get moving... Are ppl supposed to be working this out by now? Or not? Is there supposed to be a reveal? A joint reveal? No reveal? These trials and too and fro's BTW AEG and KJ/Estate anytime soon will they wrap them up or just continue to find new things? (car parking puh-lease! - insert eye roll) These doco's with KJ? What about JJ's doco, what the hell happened to that? What was it even called? The Architect??? Lundons? WTH? When is Murray dropping his so called bomb of nuclear proportions? What about rectifying the inference that MJ was a ped on 60 minutes? An announcement or a book, or second interview? Anything?? What about TIAI? Nothing! Nada! Zilch! Wade still spruking about MJ being a ped and no one on team hoax resolving it. Too many incomplete projects and loose ends. All frikken carrots that (feel like) they lead to nowhere. I wan't action baby!
Feels as though it is regressing not progressing. I know its not bc MJ is on control and has it worked out and a plan, yada yada, but have to say I'm bored as BatSh*t lol
Rant over.
Sorry.
Know it's not about me.
Oh Aussie you made a serious fall, hope you haven't got a severe concussion? Hope you are feeling well again soon!
Exactly what you wrote above sometimes makes me doubt if we were being kept in suspense. By whom, for what, I don't know, but all the incomplete projects are leading me to believe that. Sure, it could be for the hoax, but why then all those negative stories and trials? What good does that to the hoax? Like Bec said: What the hell happened??
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Yep, I'm still watching too. I still haven't had my original questions answered to my satisfaction and until then I can't believe he's d**d.
I've always felt that in order for Michael to change the ingrained image that the media and Sneddon's group brainwashed the world into believing that it was going to take a whole lot of truth over time. Michael had his reputation stained over many years and it will take time to erase the damage that was done. People don't just forget overnight. These documentaries are good, IMO, because they humanize Michael and show to the world what an incredible human being he is, not just a father, son, brother, friend, but person.
Have faith - the truth will prevail in the end.
Blessings to you all and may 2014 bring much peace and love. :bearhug:
And I wonder where all the other 'beLIEvers' are? Not so many of us on MJDHI anymore....
Watching.
I don't believe Ms. KJ is stupid or greedy so there's more to the story we just don't know. Just like everything else. I'll leave it at that.
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still around also. i can't believe sometimes why i just can't let it go. we must truly love u MJ. i know u said to be patient (but good lord, man) i know u said in ur time, but i would like for it to be in my life time. i would truly get P.O.ed (even in death) if u came back after i left. and u aren't a spring chicken ur ownself. it's hard to grasp so much info has been revealed about the world around us for nothing to come of it. some were already aware of our current situations and are at the solution stage. and, since we are michael's ARMY of love, i was ready to do what was needed to get this world back on track, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY for our children. i'm thinking maybe the publicity for him has gone down hill so that there are many factors to show that the media doesn't check out it's sources and just parrots what they are told or made to do.
if mj is not behind this hoax than who? who was behind elvis' and tupac's death hoax and for what? i don't recall any monetary gain (that i know of, unless their paid per click). if not for money, than what? i feel like i'm trying to rationalize something that makes no sense. mike- if u happen to read this forum, if u never come back that's ok because i know u r at peace away from the media. i just want the TRUTH. i'm like a dog with a bone when it comes to truth because so much of what we're taught is a lie. i don't understand why truth is such a hard thing to come by.
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
If at this point you think Michael might be dead it means you have never been a beLIEver.
Don't care what it means. I believed, based on all what I saw and read and all the 'clues' after Michael's passing, that there might be a hoax. I hoped it was a hoax. A hoax to make us see how we can be fooled by the media, how doctors are giving too much medication, how dark powers are ruling our world etc. A hoax to clear Michael's name and to vindicate him for once and for all. We've passed that station long time ago. I still believe, I believe I was in denial...
Hi "DO" :). So, as you are still on the Hoax Coach, PASSED your "stop", are you saying we should call you "Do Not"? :icon_razz: Are you saying that you feel like a lone captive on a runaway train with no driver?
Well then! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: You are STILL in the Twilight Zone, no matter how much denial you are in, heh heh heh. :affraid: Hold On! :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red I think the rest of your cronies are just hiding and watching, biting their nails, as the train goes into warp. The Puppet Master's antics are on script. All is well! :bearhug: :bearhug: SOMEone give this :screaming-7365: child a COOKIE! ;D :multiplespotting: Ho Ho Hooooooooo :icon_exclaim: :michael_jackson-1135: :TongueOutSmiley:
i agree with do, how do u know all is well, even more so, on script. i not only read positivity in your post but a confident knowing. so much so that it ran across my mind is its her really its him?? if u are privy to something that we are not, PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS...DO TELL...or at least HINT
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I am watching,and i think there are many more like me.
But i understand Do.
Last year i prommised myself to wait it out til October if nothing happens i let it go.
Without Michael comming out of hiding there is nothing i can do.
People get angry at me wen i start talking about anything concerns Michael,wen i defend him..so what is the purpose? they wont believe me.
But i cant let go, with all i learned and saw from day one,i know there is something huge going on.
I know he is alive,but it is getting really hard to still believe it is all for love and Michael is behind it all i dont know anymore.
I am also at the lowest point of my believe in 4 1/2 years.
But i am waching..hoping for the best and relief for al of us being in this emotional rollercoaster for years! :bearhug:
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I don't post much, but I am Watching! My perspective: Michael Joseph Jackson, the world's greatest Entertainer, is unfortunately, dead. Michael Joe Jackson, the man, not dead. I wish everyone a happy, safe, and prosperous New Year!!!
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I don't post much, but I am Watching! My perspective: Michael Joseph Jackson, the world's greatest Entertainer, is unfortunately, dead. Michael Joe Jackson, the man, not dead. I wish everyone a happy, safe, and prosperous New Year!!!
True!!
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To all the 'watchers', 'waiters', older and newer members:
Glad to see you are still around! How I miss the old times, when there were thousands :icon_mrgreen: of posts a day!!!
And how I wish this will be again the case in the veryyyyyyyy near future, you know, when the impossible becomes possible!
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I'm still here, but it seems like there's nothing to say anymore.
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To all the 'watchers', 'waiters', older and newer members:
Glad to see you are still around! How I miss the old times, when there were thousands :icon_mrgreen: of posts a day!!!
And how I wish this will be again the case in the veryyyyyyyy near future, you know, when the impossible becomes possible!
I am arround every day watching Do..And i feel the same way you do.
I mis all the excitement wen sombody found out something new..and the responce of Souza(i mis your opinion in things Souza :icon_neutral:)and others.
And the video's..before i could not wait to see the next one...but now it is a lot of text the things we read 3 a 4 times already..Boring(sorry no offend).
I know i can not do this for an other year.I come here every day with the hope of finally to get some closure,but until now it is in vain.
I afraid we become like Elvis fans wen the Hoax drags on like this year after year,and i dont know what to think of the Family wen this becomes reality.
Is it not enough by now?? i know for me it is...This is it! :Pulling_hair:
FOR AL A VERRY HAPPY NEW YEAR
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This wonderful site is our home from 2009 to now...we all and Michael , together :moonwalk_: :beerchug:
HAPPY NEW YEAR HOAX FAMILY !!
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True that we have dissected and looked at nearly everything already, and many of us [myself included] don't have the energy or desire to rehash much of the initial info. But one of the things I love most about our site is not only the wealth of info contained here, but how one can get a feel of the hoax adventure from start to present simply by reading our archives.
And what a wealth of information our archives contain. This is why I will remain committed to posting news and relevant info as it comes up for how ever long that takes. This has to be maintained from start to FINISH, and this is not over yet.
Doesn't matter to me whether I feel excited, bored, blah or any other emotion. At my age, I've learned that my emotions can change as quick as the weather. That is just life.
What does matter to me is that this hoax archive is complete.
You guys and our shared journey matter to me also and yes, I am stubborn.
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Even though so little seems to be happening, it's still so good to read the few comments coming. And RK, "what a wealth of information our archives contain", is so true. We have poured our lives and souls into it, and it just seems like a precious 'holy' historical record that I hate to part with. I just refuse to give up hope that everything MJ promised will be fulfilled.
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Popcorn anyone?
We might be watching for another year :-[ :screaming-7365:
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... I just refuse to give up hope that everything MJ promised will be fulfilled.
Remind me again, what exactly did MJ promise?
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... I just refuse to give up hope that everything MJ promised will be fulfilled.
Remind me again, what exactly did MJ promise?
I know what Mjonmind means the thing is that you both see this hoax from different perspectives and that's ok and respectable because in the end it's our own choices but please don't ask me to explain it better because I wouldn't be able to.
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Even though so little seems to be happening, it's still so good to read the few comments coming. And RK, "what a wealth of information our archives contain", is so true. We have poured our lives and souls into it, and it just seems like a precious 'holy' historical record that I hate to part with. I just refuse to give up hope that everything MJ promised will be fulfilled.
For me this site and you all is a very important part of my life.I think this is a proper evolution of things, but I never lost and never will lose the belief that Michael reads us , see us and talk with us here.
Is a great adventure.. :moonwalk_:
Love you all, really !!! :bearhug:
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I'm still here, but it seems like there's nothing to say anymore.
Yep.
Popcorn anyone?
We might be watching for another year :-[ :screaming-7365:
(http://images.nymag.com/daily/entertainment/20080930_popcorns_250x250.jpg)
I've had my fill of popcorn lol
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Meanwhile....
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Welcome to 2014 hoax fam. Here's to another year of pigging out on popcorn together, because we have two choices.... Popcorn or Popcorn...
It's been a pleasure dining on popcorn with you all in 2013! Let's hope 2014 brings us closer to our bam hopes, or if not a little more clarity on the situation!
Cheers!
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... I just refuse to give up hope that everything MJ promised will be fulfilled.
Remind me again, what exactly did MJ promise?
"The best is yet to come!"
"Bam!"
Ok and words from controversial sources...sorry!
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"The best is yet to come!"
"Bam!"
Ok and words from controversial sources...sorry!
LOL, hmmm, best I keep quiet I think!
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I don't post much, but I am Watching! My perspective: Michael Joseph Jackson, the world's greatest Entertainer, is unfortunately, dead. Michael Joe Jackson, the man, not dead. I wish everyone a happy, safe, and prosperous New Year!!!
i agree, so if michael joseph is gone & michael joe is still around, will he resurface or stay behind the scene ?
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"The best is yet to come!"
"Bam!"
Ok and words from controversial sources...sorry!
LOL, hmmm, best I keep quiet I think!
Nope, pipe up.
Last time MJ said "the best is yet to come" was round about 1987ish.
"Bam" is a sound effect, not a promise, and in context he was referring to his projected concert performance.
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Now look what you've made me do! Here's me trying to convince myself it's 'all in my head' and I go and remember this. Don't know if 'You ain't seen nothing yet' from 2000 (around 3:05 on the vid) counts as a promise, but that look that goes with it speaks volumes!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXP3PW81RDI#t=195[/youtube]
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Got to admit that sent a little [old] chill up my spine, curls.
But that was 14 years ago.
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The way he says he's 'proud to be an entertainer' and follows it with 'you ain't seen nothing yet', to my mind, means (in his mind) he was putting the two things together: 'entertainment' and 'whatever he was planning'.
Now, IF he was referring to a future death hoax AND it was primarily for entertainment, what went wrong? Because it sure isn't entertaining any more.
More likely he was simply 'hyping up' Invincible - yup, that must be it.
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Waiting for and keep the faith !!! :icon_razz: :moonwalk_:
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The way he says he's 'proud to be an entertainer' and follows it with 'you ain't seen nothing yet', to my mind, means (in his mind) he was putting the two things together: 'entertainment' and 'whatever he was planning'.
Now, IF he was referring to a future death hoax AND it was primarily for entertainment, what went wrong? Because it sure isn't entertaining any more.
More likely he was simply 'hyping up' Invincible - yup, that must be it.
Hi Curls. Nah. I'm sure that's not all he meant. I heard him say after a birthday party in, I think 2004, that there was something reeeeally exciting in the works and that "you" (those people there with him) have not seen ANYTHING, yet. I presumed it was some kind of game, or creative mentoring venture, but searching the internet specifically, four years now has come up with NOTHING but this Hoax!
AND---I've posted this a few times in four years, but I'll say it again, that, on his History short films sets, there is a bizarre "Heads Up!" kind of warning, which bespeaks a certain expectation of thrill or terror or both!!!!!! :affraid: :affraid: Well now, heh heh heh, :ghsdf: we have certainly had an OVERDOSE of both, haven't we?
It confused me when I noticed that the phrase, "Brace yourselves" is at the beginning of the first set, and at the end of the second set. It is NOT just the name of a track. It is understandable that there would be a call to "brace yourself" as you prepare to be thoroughly entertained by Michael Jackson AT THE BEGINNING. But it is at THE END :Pulling_hair: of the second set, AFTER all the videos have been watched and there is nothing else on the DVD! I thought something was left out on my second DVD. :Crash: :Crash: But there was no way to check it, without buying more copies. :icon_e_confused: What am I missing? :smiley-vault-misc-150: Something completely obvious---right? You won't embarrass me; just say it. :icon_e_smile:
Since he "died", which I beLIEve he faked, I HAVE to beLIEve that THIS IS IT, what he MEANT by "BRACE YOURSELF!" Also, there is an animated big fist balling up and PUNCHING the person watching the videos (ME! :over-react-smiley: ), full in the face!
:affraid: I can't remember which one was which, because it has been a while since I looked at these, but I think it is the last one which has MJ himself fooling around, sparring and :michael_jackson-1135: throwing a punch at the end of this.
I mean, HOW could nobody else notice this?? I am officially ASKING: Is this bizarre thing on YOUR copies of the History DVDs, or am I the only one in the world who has this on mine??????????????????????????????????????????? :icon_eek: ;D I have posted this a few times and NO one has ever commented about it. I think Michael Jackson has yet again placed Hoax clues on his Classic work. WHY :errrr: would he throw a punch (BAM :thjajaja121:) at his fans watching his films????? He was laughing the whole time, too. It MUST be about punking everyone with this Hoax! :multiplespotting:
Further, I don't think anything has actually :icon_e_surprised: :icon_mad: :screaming-7365: gone wrong...I mean, true (?), one of his "partners in crime", a true Goodfellow, may have died prematurely, but I believe MJ had everything all planned out (Beginning, Middle, End) WAY before he even went "Lights Out", so a death of one of the Hoax "principals" (LIE-ers) shouldn't :confused: monkeywrench the BAM! I will say with certainty that we are closer to the End than the Middle; agreed?
Yeah, MJ SAID something about having 'four years to get it right', but we shouldn't assume that IN four years, IT got righted, OR, when "IT" is right, the end is near. We haven't figured out WHAT that "IT" was, have we? THAT "It" may not be the same one as the one in This Is It...Maybe he was pre-confusing us, throwing us a PLANNED misdirection, as we take a four year coaster ride trying to determine what IS "It". Maybe that was a test, because it doesn't seem to have turned out to be "It". He has a history (well, four years, anyway) of "T.S.-tweaking" our abilities to think for ourselves and to "See"....
Hey,movies aren't all entertaining, but highly :icon_pale: upsetting, during certain parts. Many movies are unnerving as heck, until the end, and thrillers are over the top. You KNOW Michael Jackson is going to out-do EVERYbody! It seems worse, for us, because we don't really KNOW what we want to know. We know in part. Being in the dark is always the most scary. It may be part of his plan, or maybe there is just more to it. Just because MJ is the Greatest Entertainer Who Ever Lived, it doesn't mean he meant to entertain the ENTIRE time during his Hoax. We've stumbled into creepy, scary, shocking things, like danger and death, humiliating autopsies and invasion of privacy, and filthy lies, which we NOW beLIEve were fake, and now we are in the "wring your hands at the deafening silence" stage. It is a surprise move, at this stage, but I don't know why---he did this before. :Crash: :icon_lol: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile It COULD all be entertainment---but we won't KNOW until the end of the story. I think it's more.
He always said he loved us MORE. :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug:
I think MJ is just doing what he loves to do: torture us (with suspense, of course), "...to the pain " which is more exasperating than "to the death", and kind of a "hurts so good" which we ALL volunteered for! (to quote from The Princess Bride movie, and the Melencamp song). We are just in another :Pulling_hair: PLANNED phase of MJ twisting our emotions until we give up and cry "uncle". If this documentary ever comes together and is NOT just another stall tactic, GREAT! It is a clue (for those who are looking) that there will be no BAM at least until after that. OR, he could be pulling all our legs again (NO documentary, duh :TongueOutSmiley:) and BAM while everyone, thinking they have time for a snack break, leaves the theater! :affraid: He's fooled us all SO much! He's SO crafty and clever, you cannot take one eye off him! He has studied people a LONG time. He KNOWS how to get under our skin, and rattle our confidence! And, he :michael_jackson-1135: TOLD us he was BAD and to Keep Watchin', so what does that mean?
It MEANS: He IS >:( very very Bad, so,
Keep Watchin'. Bite nails, if you must. The Master StoryTeller did not "die" without finishing the Book. And he has not tossed it out the window, after four years of reading it to us, while we are all, wide awake, in our jammies, waiting to hear the end! :screaming-7365: He is doing what the grandpa did ??? in The Princess Bride, and teasing us about closing the book, UNread :WTF: :over-react-smiley:, to make us beg for even the kissing (yuk) parts. You guys! :bearhug: ;)
Michael Jackson, you ;) Fiend. They are crying, now. :icon_lol:
@Do, Hi. Happy to calm you down. I just read your post. :) Cookie on the way, IF I figure it out. :icon_redface: ;D :icon_e_confused: I HOPED :-\ someone had one handy, to share ... they must have left the train to go get a whole bag for their OWN screaming pieholes! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_idea: How about an invisible, HOAX cookie? ______. "SEE"?
:LolLolLolLol: :icon_albino:
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Okay...back to the topic with this one.......talk of refunds and overseas sourcing of finance.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/katherine-jackson-issuing-refunds-remembering-michael-article-1.1564939#ixzz2pN94At9T (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/katherine-jackson-issuing-refunds-remembering-michael-article-1.1564939#ixzz2pN94At9T)
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sweetsunset is right. If this is a family project, then we should automatically think about MJ as the planner. Time will tell. I'm looking forward to see the documentary. More clues and hidden messages must be coming soon. ;D
Have we found out anything significant from those 'family projects' in the past? I don't think so.
You're right. It turned out there was nothing 'hoaxy' about it, other than (I feel at this point) keeping themselves in the picture and to make money on Michael's behalf.
Edit: I'm really really in a bad mood. Wish I could be more positive. To me, WE are the ones that got bamboozled. I really don't believe in a positive outcome anymore. Glad that I was never 100% convinced of a hoax. I did hope it was one though.
What really hurts and angers me, should there be no hoax and Michael really did die that awful day, is the behaviour of some of his familymembers. They confirmed the stories of greed about them in so many ways.
If at this point you think Michael might be dead it means you have never been a beLIEver.
Don't care what it means. I believed, based on all what I saw and read and all the 'clues' after Michael's passing, that there might be a hoax. I hoped it was a hoax. A hoax to make us see how we can be fooled by the media, how doctors are giving too much medication, how dark powers are ruling our world etc. A hoax to clear Michael's name and to vindicate him for once and for all. We've passed that station long time ago. I still believe, I believe I was in denial...
Hi "DO" :). So, as you are still on the Hoax Coach, PASSED your "stop", are you saying we should call you "Do Not"? :icon_razz: Are you saying that you feel like a lone captive on a runaway train with no driver?
Well then! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: You are STILL in the Twilight Zone, no matter how much denial you are in, heh heh heh. :affraid: Hold On! :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red I think the rest of your cronies are just hiding and watching, biting their nails, as the train goes into warp. The Puppet Master's antics are on script. All is well! :bearhug: :bearhug: SOMEone give this :screaming-7365: child a COOKIE! ;D :multiplespotting: Ho Ho Hooooooooo :icon_exclaim: :michael_jackson-1135: :TongueOutSmiley:
i agree with do, how do u know all is well, even more so, on script. i not only read positivity in your post but a confident knowing. so much so that it ran across my mind is its her really its him?? if u are privy to something that we are not, PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS...DO TELL...or at least HINT
itsher - i did look for a reply & thanks for replying back. u have looked more into this hoax than i have and i appreciated ur devotion. i also want to thank u for giving me strength to keep going. some of what u said does ring true of mike. i will probably always check in, but i've also taken months away (imo, it becomes exhausting). my professor said something that still sticks with me today. she said she hates when people waste her time, it's the most precious thing to her, because once it's gone u will never get it back. and i agree with u mike would not let us invest 4 + yrs just to leave us hanging. back on topic - as someone else mentioned i think K J gets manipulated by the wrong people
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Its Her, good noticing the fist, like a bam!
Applehead,
"So he said that in 2008, wow :icon_eek: ,not far away from the iminent extinct :icon_albino:"
I knew MJ had said both statements (The best is yet to come, and You ain't seen nothing yet.) not long before June 09, always with such heavy promise in his voice.
I too think this docu will happen. MJ's had so many things lined up to take place every year since his 'death', trials, documentaries, tours, news craziness. 2014 will be no different; there will be great interesting things happened for us to be enjoying or some things perhaps upsetting.
Diggyon, that song is amazing " O Fortuna" form Carl Orf's Carmina Burana". Thanks so much! I can see MJ thinking it was perfect!
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On June 25, 2009, in honor of Michael's death, my daughter played a series of MJ videos I had never seen. The last was Brace Yourself. It sent chills down my spine. Still does. Makes me thing that, as long as we have waited, as much as we have 'prepared,' we will still need to brace ourselves.
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itsher - i did look for a reply & thanks for replying back. u have looked more into this hoax than i have and i appreciated ur devotion. i also want to thank u for giving me strength to keep going. some of what u said does ring true of mike. i will probably always check in, but i've also taken months away (imo, it becomes exhausting). my professor said something that still sticks with me today. she said she hates when people waste her time, it's the most precious thing to her, because once it's gone u will never get it back. and i agree with u mike would not let us invest 4 + yrs just to leave us hanging. back on topic - as someone else mentioned i think K J gets manipulated by the wrong people
Let 'em try it. Besides being too wise to fall for their manipulations, she's being directed in this Hoax, by a Master Fox. He won't let anything happen to her :icon_exclaim: ;D