Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: whoisit1998 on September 16, 2013, 10:44:29 PM
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1luQPjiyk4[/youtube]
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Well that has me sitting upright and at full attention. :icon_eek: Mr Connors touched on the illuminati mk ultra and the alien/ fallen angel agenda as well in there.
Geez I hope this really is it and it is finally all going to come out at last. A world wake up call.
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Wow. Can somebody please safe/download this video, I don't know how and got to go to work right now.
Was that really Michael??
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Yea was that really Michael......??? the camera at times moved in time with the mans voice,cant really explain,just something i noticed.
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:icon_eek:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1luQPjiyk4
Holy shit,is this even real :icon_eek: :ghsdf: ? Maybe that's why,we had that illuminati slogans ,at Murray trial :icon_cool: :icon_geek:.
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef014e8c173f9b970d-600wi)
On the other hand,Randy said that videos can be manipulated :LolLolLolLol: ,so :TongueOutSmiley:......
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
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Wow Wow Wow, I really believe Michael is talking on the video, it breaks my heart the way he is talking almost crying :omg: I wish from the bottom of my heart that Michael has a safe life from now onwards and that this hoax allows him to show the world all that he had to go through and the real intentions of those EVIL MONSTERS :icon_evil: , I love you Michael.
The words Michael says on this tape: "THEY COULD FRAME ME AND SAY I OVERDOSED ON DRUGS" reminds me of what I said yesterday on the Sony thread: "The mere fact that CM was so clumsy handling the alleged MJ overdose of Propofol, being hung on the cell phone with his girlfriend during 20 minutes, not being capable to practice CPR on him, etc..... could be just a pretext to seem innocent but the real intention was to leave Michael die, maybe we could be wrong and CM is the fall guy but the criminal too handled by THEM".
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,24082.msg447025.html#msg447025
Or maybe he was just leaking a bit of his intentions to make a hoax by staging that overdose he is talking about.
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Maybe? but ask Dieter if there was a phonecall like this to be sure?
He has facebook
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Maybe? but ask Dieter if there was a phonecall like this to be sure?
He has facebook
Please Mattie could you give us the link to Dieter twitter account?
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Agree. :Crash: :ghsdf:
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holy guacamole,
Thats more than a little bit un-settlng - i have listened 3 times now and the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up.
I'm massively skeptical generally, but there is something about this that makes me believe its genuine.....
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A couple of times the guy looks like he's going to break into laughter, but he holds himself in check and looks down.
I personally don't think that it is MJ's last call, and doubt it is actually him.
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Maybe? but ask Dieter if there was a phonecall like this to be sure?
He has facebook
Please Mattie could you give us the link to Dieter twitter account?
I said facebook..https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter
But i also found 2 twitter accounts https://twitter.com/mjackson_news/statuses/140076086833852416 (dont know if they are real)
https://twitter.com/Ivy_4MJ/status/298519870738403329
I dont think these twitter accounts have anything to do with wiesner? can't find a twitter..sorry
It tooke ages to post..the forum is verry slow for me..and stops responding by every vieuw words i type :computer-losy-smiley:
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The forum is very slow for me too Mattie...it freeze at every 5 seconds.... :Crash: :computer-losy-smiley:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1luQPjiyk4[/youtube]
well he said he let them until 23 september let`s wait it`s only in 6 days from now. We`ll see if he release anything more. And if he is indeed telling the truth...well I hope for him that he know how to hide, because they`ll wack him in a minute if they find out.
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Omg this is such BS. That probably is MJ.
Weren't we just discussing on the other thread how he is NOT credible via media such as video/recorded statements??
Sorry MJ, but that's probably one of the worst performances you have ever done :icon_lol: 'I can't discuss it over the phone... here let me discuss it' <---lol
Very hoaxy but very much so acted. The camera movements with the speaker's voice are weird. Can't figure out what's going on there.
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Ps. if it were real, I doubt he would release this with a teaser "coming soon!" a few days away. Fake fake fake! (or acted acted acted!)
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I think it's a younger Bob in the picture. Maybe this is Souza's Bob.
I see from his page that he is in the process of writing a book called Red Krypton ......or RK for short..... :icon_e_confused: Nah.....this is a real coincidence.
Red Krypto
in process
Authors: Bob Connors
Follow me on twitter @redkryptonovel and "like" the RK facebook page https://www.facebook.com/RedKryptoNovel
Bob Connors' Organizations
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Ps. if it were real, I doubt he would release this with a teaser "coming soon!" a few days away. Fake fake fake! (or acted acted acted!)
We don't know, but I really would not dismiss it like that ! We will maybe find out later what is the truth, but suppose it is and we all turned a blind eye ? Have we not been with our head in the sand long enough? The MJ story is full of mystery, and let us hope it is all revealed asap...its all a big mystery and nothing has ever made any sense..
I`m sceptical at best, guess we`ll have to wait and see.
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Oh and also, we have a new user with one post who signed up apparently to just to post this video.
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This guy's body language is all over the place: crossing his arms as he says 'and to show I'm not bluffing ...', and looking down as he urges people to save his info '.... for freedom of information's sake'.
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Odd that the guy's name is Robert Conners (kind of a blend of ROBERT earl carter and CONRAD murray)! :thjajaja121: And is it me, or does the guy in the video look a lot like Michael with his tongue out as he's getting his Mayor's makeup on from Ghosts? He says he can finally sleep at night? Why not try some propofol!!! :thjajaja121: His hand and head gestures read Michael to me as well.
Notice the voice is identified as from michael JOSEPH jackson.
And, frankly, it just seems like something Michael would do....just for the FUN of it. I really liked the part when he spoke of forces beyond this realm. :omg:
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It looks like the background and surrounding is moving wen he moves :icon_rolleyes:
Somtimes i had the idea that it is a carton thing with only his head and arms sticking out.
Hope you know what i mean.
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But why Michael's tape of all celebrities who were/allegedly were assassinated by TPTB ?
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Yea, why air Michael's tape while talking about Hip hop?
It could be this guy http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmconnors - but without eyebrows... (thinking) :suspect:
This Michael's voice sounds like Michael, but as if he was acting... Doesn't sound too natural...
But let's wait for Sept. 23!
(wow! finally something new to the hoax story! :ghsdf: )
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Wow. Can somebody please safe/download this video, I don't know how and got to go to work right now.
Was that really Michael??
sure - http://www.mediafire.com/download/3vwoc29hff8zf72/Government_Whistleblower_Exposes_Hip_Hop_Conspiracy.mp4
Thanks SEHF
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(wow! finally something new to the hoax story! :ghsdf: )
Exactly! There've been so few crumbs on the trail lately, I've been near starvation! Doing the happy dance now! :multiplespotting:
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I'm not excited, i'm concerned. I feel that is MJ's voice. And I know he is alive. But why this tape? what are we supposed to do...and how are we supposed to conceive all of this?
Too many questions. what could be TPTB's involvement in this hoax, if any?
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Doesn't sound like Michael to me. But I'm interested...
Let's see what happens!
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Maybe? but ask Dieter if there was a phonecall like this to be sure?
He has facebook
Please Mattie could you give us the link to Dieter twitter account?
I said facebook..https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter
But i also found 2 twitter accounts https://twitter.com/mjackson_news/statuses/140076086833852416 (dont know if they are real)
https://twitter.com/Ivy_4MJ/status/298519870738403329
I dont think these twitter accounts have anything to do with wiesner? can't find a twitter..sorry
It tooke ages to post..the forum is verry slow for me..and stops responding by every vieuw words i type :computer-losy-smiley:
Lol my bad, you are right facebook, thanks for sharing sweetie.
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I'm not excited, i'm concerned. I feel that is MJ's voice. And I know he is alive. But why this tape? what are we supposed to do...and how are we supposed to conceive all of this?
Too many questions. what could be TPTB's involvement in this hoax, if any?
Maybe Michael wants to give us confirmation, in a moment full of uncertainty,he had to do 25 June..... :icon_rolleyes: a way to say, anyway, I'm here.... :moonwalk_:
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I'm not excited, i'm concerned. I feel that is MJ's voice. And I know he is alive. But why this tape? what are we supposed to do...and how are we supposed to conceive all of this?
Too many questions. what could be TPTB's involvement in this hoax, if any?
Maybe Michael wants to give us confirmation, in a moment full of uncertainty,he had to do 25 June..... :icon_rolleyes: a way to say, anyway, I'm here.... :moonwalk_:
It does make sense what you are saying Blankie :icon_e_smile:
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@ sweetsunsetwithMJ
It does make sense what you are saying Blankie
:icon_e_wink: :beerchug:
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Wow there are over 50 people reading this thread right now... 47 of them are guests. What does that say about the topic? Hmm...
This video seems rehearsed and scripted (many people here mentioned that he looks down a lot--at his notes?) and WHAT is going on with that Paul Greengrass-esque camerawork? Was it meant to look like someone was filming this from behind the camera (not suggesting anyone in particular...) or did this guy just plop his camera on top of the washing machine?
Seriously this video is so fake it has me laughing so hard. That's not Michael's voice in the "tape"--his intonation and accent were off. This guy has given us absolutely no reason to believe this tape is genuine, or that he is "not bluffing."
Edit--And what pray tell is his actual threat? Simply to "reveal" more fake tapes? I didn't hear anything concrete that we can expect to occur on September 23 if he doesn't get what he wants (which is what, exactly?)
This guy's video has an AGENDA, just like everyone else in the media talking about Michael. F-ing vampires.
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Hi Guys, I posted the link, I saw it on Godlikeproductions and I thought you guys would be interested. I wasnt sure if MJ was still talking to Dieter, I thought they had a falling out.. thing is the recording sounds real to me, though your right, it also sounds as if MJ is giving a performance in that audio... Also how come he isnt using his 'real voice' on the call, at least we know for sure now that he wasnt a drug addict....
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Some believe that the voice is MJ and others not, I could not say that the voice of Michael, is so low and loud.
On twitter they said conspiracy Still Ongoing thru 2 destroy Black Families media & hiphop main culprit-voice of MJ / MJ did PPPYT-Dieter N talk 2 2009
It is the first film we hear, where supposedly MJ, speaks of conspiracy, La Toya did too.
According to the following article, it is true that the U.S. government wants customer data.
http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/09/update-from-iceland-our-spy-proof-communications-service-now-being-set-up-here-offshore-to-protect-your-privacy-2445312.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/09/update-from-iceland-our-spy-proof-communications-service-now-being-set-up-here-offshore-to-protect-your-privacy-2445312.html)
Another link which debunks the video (just the NSA)
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/09/govt-whistleblower-robert-conors-goes-public-wmichael-jacksons-final-phone-call-video-mkultra-2454500.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FeGfl&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info (http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/09/govt-whistleblower-robert-conors-goes-public-wmichael-jacksons-final-phone-call-video-mkultra-2454500.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FeGfl&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info)
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Guys, do you know this video IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!lmao GOOOD JOB MICHAEL :th_bravo:
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Some believe that the voice is MJ and others not, I could not say that the voice of Michael, is so low and loud.
On twitter they said conspiracy Still Ongoing thru 2 destroy Black Families media & hiphop main culprit-voice of MJ / MJ did PPPYT-Dieter N talk 2 2009
It is the first film we hear, where supposedly MJ, speaks of conspiracy, La Toya did too.
According to the following article, it is true that the U.S. government wants customer data.
http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/09/update-from-iceland-our-spy-proof-communications-service-now-being-set-up-here-offshore-to-protect-your-privacy-2445312.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/09/update-from-iceland-our-spy-proof-communications-service-now-being-set-up-here-offshore-to-protect-your-privacy-2445312.html)
Another link which debunks the video (just the NSA)
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/09/govt-whistleblower-robert-conors-goes-public-wmichael-jacksons-final-phone-call-video-mkultra-2454500.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FeGfl&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info (http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/09/govt-whistleblower-robert-conors-goes-public-wmichael-jacksons-final-phone-call-video-mkultra-2454500.html?utm_content=awesm-publisher&utm_medium=facebook-share&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FeGfl&utm_campaign=&utm_source=direct-b4in.info)
I believe that Germaine in an interview he spoke of conspiracy of the government
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He says he is releasing much information come Monday Sept. 23rd....guess I'll wait till then? Of all the information he supposedly has, why did he choose to release Michael's tapes? Also, Dieter Wiesner...always seemed shady to me. Could it be that he is in cahoots with this dude? Or in cahoots with MJ altogether to produce yet another twisted loop of this adventure? Who knows.......I guess Monday we will know more.
Blessings
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Hey wishy. Yep. Let's just wait it out and watch. We've been waiting for 4 years already, so making it through till Monday shouldn't be a hard stretch.
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@Blankie
MJ didn't create this death hoax overnight and fled off somewhere. This is a foolproof plan whose foundation was laid years ago.
Let's see Monday 23 Sep.
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Oh and also, we have a new user with one post who signed up apparently to just to post this video.
Yes I wonder who the shits it could be? Who is it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Oh and also, we have a new user with one post who signed up apparently to just to post this video.
Yes I wonder who the shits it could be? Who is it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
if true, but give it a chance, see how is your participation here, I hope this person does not publish and disappear :LolLolLolLol:
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IPOPPEDOFF @IPOPPEDOFF 21u
@bobc_mass Is this really you sir? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1luQPjiyk4 …
Bob Connors @bobc_mass 17u
@IPOPPEDOFF absolutely not!
Bob Connors @bobc_mass 14u
@SeLib37 we share the same name (possibly), but he is endowed by the creator to the right to free speech. No matter how crazy it is.
Bob Connors @bobc_mass 13u
@Panos_Kourt @SeLib37 oh come on. He's got 50 lbs on me!
Bob Connors @bobc_mass 13u
@Panos_Kourt @SeLib37 he's fat, bald and ugly. I'm just bald and ugly #hegivesbobabadname
https://twitter.com/bobc_mass
Other than the bald head they look nothing alike. He looks more like that bald guy from the Shield. Looking forward to the 23rd.
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The video seems fake to me (overacted in my opinion, especially MJ's supposed audio) but the topic in itself is interesting as I do believe that MJ had real problems with those people and that this was one of the reasons for a death hoax (just the thing that he was supposed to be in one of the Twin Towers on 9/11 makes you go hmmm...). However the video in itself is hoaxy - it is hoaxed/fake or directly hoax releated...
I know it's completely crazy but the guy seems somehow similar to Conrad Murray (or the person who "plays" CM as we were speculating about the mask) - he has the same weird body language, the same speech tone, and the "God bless you all" repeated at the end really made me tthink of CM's video from 2009... I know it's far-fetched but so is almost everything in this hoax :P
PS. This video reminds me of an other one that was released some weeks ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73LdWItKKA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73LdWItKKA)
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The video seems fake to me (overacted in my opinion, especially MJ's supposed audio) but the topic in itself is interesting as I do believe that MJ had real problems with those people and that this was one of the reasons for a death hoax (just the thing that he was supposed to be in one of the Twin Towers on 9/11 makes you go hmmm...). However the video in itself is hoaxy - it is hoaxed/fake or directly hoax releated...
I know it's completely crazy but the guy seems somehow similar to Conrad Murray (or the person who "plays" CM as we were speculating about the mask) - he has the same weird body language, the same speech tone, and the "God bless you all" repeated at the end really made me tthink of CM's video from 2009... I know it's far-fetched but so is almost everything in this hoax :P
PS. This video reminds me of an other one that was released some weeks ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73LdWItKKA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73LdWItKKA)
I agree and noted earlier the similarity in body language to Conrad/Michael as well as that monotone delivery. The wavy cartoon look of the film only adds to my suspicions. And something about his hands seems odd. If you notice the video is of very poor quality and the features on his face are indistinct, consistent with CGI effects. But we've all by now realized that Michael often delivers the truth in a package tied with a ribbon of absurd lies, so I'm not dissuaded by the appearance of things.
The story rings true to me and is totally consistent with everything Michael has said over time. What really jumped out at me is him saying he has EVIDENCE of involvement of beings from other realms. Since he claims that attempts were made to decimate Black culture solely through MUSIC (note how he emphasized this), mention of 'other realms' made me think of Lucifer, the Light Bearer, and these lyrics from Jay-Z's song Lucifer:
Lucifer, son of the morning! I'm gonna chase you out of Earth
(I'm from the murder capital, where we murder for capital)
Hmmmm.....
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Hey Susie, I was just going to post the same! Yes, yes, the video reminds me of 2009 Conrad Murray, I noticed that too!
ANd if you listen what the guy is saying and you leave out his specific job-info, it could be Michael talking! (Just like in that Murray video). Pay special attention when he is saying at 0:14 seconds: ..'I may actually get a night sleep'....and the gesture he makes after that!
This is a brief recap, you have to watch the video again
Robert Connors says he became Director of Communications for Operation Sedgwick (which was formed in 1989 by Ronald Regan) in March 1994. He wants us make aware of what is going on. Connors says this project was the second stage of MK Ultra (mind control). He says it’s sole purpose is to control the African American population through music. Connors says “I’m showing my face and I will reveal my name for my own protection. If something were to happen to me, you know it was not an accident.”
Robert Connors says he served with the Department of Defense for over 20 years. He says it was his duty as an ex operative to protect the constitution against foreign and domestic threats. He says he joined the department to create a safer world for his children and grandchildren, but in the last decade of his career he “has seen one of the biggest threats to the nation.”
He says he has a series of videos and audio recordings proving the existence of the project. He says his division was ordered to destroy the evidence, but his conscience would not allow him to do so.
Connor says the videos and audio recordings give details on Tupac Shakur’s death and other secrets that the public has been lied to about including “entities beyond the federal government and this world.”
Connors asks fellow workers in his department to join him in exposing the lies. He says he is giving the Department of Defense until September 23, 2013 to expose this information. He says if they do not, he will release the videos and audios to the public via YouTube.
Now remember what Jermaine wrote in his book?
(page 211, hardcover):
..........."Michael was a prolific note-taker and note-sender, and he went through casette after casette on that tape-recorder of his. I suspect there are numerous attorneys, producers, record-label executives and managers who were close to Michael WITHOUT REALISING that the record button was pressed to capture a moment OR PROTECT HIS INTERESTS. Over the years, as his fame and succes grew, the motivation to record conversations had less to do with capturing advice than what people said about others or harsh words said to him."....
............"I think many underestimated Michael"......
............"he was also one of the savviest, with an intellect and a creativity that made him one of the smartest thinkers-outside-the-box at any table".........
I can't wait 'till monday!
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It's obviously bullshit. Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? Dumb. Can't believe anyone is falling for this.
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Anyone of you read this thread allready? > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg1&mem=
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.... Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? ....
I just logged on to say the same! You beat me to it bec! Stupid guy - can't have been paying attention in the first lesson of 'whistleblower' school!
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Anyone of you read this thread allready? > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg1&mem=
Just had a look at it Jos, thanks. This is the one WhoIsIt referred to:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2357211/pg1
This all has a ring of that event that never happened at Hollywood hills a couple of years back!
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Anyone of you read this thread allready? > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg1&mem=
No, but someone started a thread on it on the David Icke forum, though it didn't get a lot of traction. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256403 The link they provided was a re-upload from Disclosure TV and it's been viewed by over 42,000. Curious as to why they would re-upload this video as their focus is on extraterrestrial matters.
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From facebook of Dieter Wiesner (sorry, don't know how to make and post screenshots):
Dieter Wiesner
7 uur geleden
'Because of the thousands of mails i got, this will be my statement:
Due to the current legal problems I already have with the Michael Jackson Estate in regards to a few Authentic voice messages of Michael I used in my book, my legal counsel has advised me to reserve my comments until the aforementioned is settled.'
https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter
If it isn't him, then he simply could have denied it. Is he playing along or what?
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Anyone of you read this thread allready? > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg1&mem=
No, but someone started a thread on it on the David Icke forum, though it didn't get a lot of traction. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256403 The link they provided was a re-upload from Disclosure TV and it's been viewed by over 42,000. Curious as to why they would re-upload this video as their focus is on extraterrestrial matters.
Project Blue-beam (or something like that) perhaps?
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when i first saw the vid it reminded me of mayor in the ghost short movie. i tried to look at his finger nails but couldn't get a long enough look. to me, it seemed deliberate. his eyes are shadowed/darkened making it difficult to get a good look at them. most say they can tell mj by his eyes & nail bed, & he knows this. the vid is wavy & pixelated. i read that the poster joined the hoax forum to post this vid . robt. connors has only this vid posted on his you tube page. it doesn't say when he joined & it usually does. his vid has over 83,000 hits in 2 dys, things that make u go hmmmm.
i posted vids earlier that were related to the topics connor spoke of - manipulation of blacks in music (& other areas), mk ultra victims testimonies, & forces beyond this realm. but for some reason it didn't post. my intentions were to give u something to research while waiting for sept 23. each topic he spoke on definitely has some validity to it. should anyone be interested i will look them back up and post again, if not no need in wasting my time
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someone mentioned his hands seems off,that was the first thing i thought when i first watched this,another thing i noticed,might be nothing,but from 30 onwards,as you look at him,there seems to be a white patch on his neck,and his eyes,again someone mentioned,dark circles........ :confused:
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Come On,Seriously!!! It Sounds NOTHING Like Michael, So FAKE!! :thjajaja121:
Seriously or humorously ?? ;) :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Why is Mike so out of breath though? It sounds like they caught him in the middle of a jog :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:.
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Odd that the guy's name is Robert Conners (kind of a blend of ROBERT earl carter and CONRAD murray)! :thjajaja121: And is it me, or does the guy in the video look a lot like Michael with his tongue out as he's getting his Mayor's makeup on from Ghosts? He says he can finally sleep at night? Why not try some propofol!!! :thjajaja121: His hand and head gestures read Michael to me as well.
Notice the voice is identified as from michael JOSEPH jackson.
And, frankly, it just seems like something Michael would do....just for the FUN of it. I really liked the part when he spoke of forces beyond this realm. :omg:
Gwynned ,I've seen this guy before, but I do not remember where :icon_e_confused: .We have the Joseph thing again, :icon_e_wink: :LolLolLolLol:.Well in a way he is right ,because for the world, Joseph is the one who died ,not Joe lol :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: .
Michael likes to tease us ;) ,so yeah, my ears picked up even more when he mentioned the influence of entities beyond this world :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:...
However, I do have real doubts about this guy, for example he describes MJ as ''speaking of a government conspiracy to murder him''. And yet in the supposed recording MJ says ''it's not the government''... :icon_e_confused: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
I think this is a hoax but i guess time will tell.
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From facebook of Dieter Wiesner (sorry, don't know how to make and post screenshots):
Dieter Wiesner
7 uur geleden
'Because of the thousands of mails i got, this will be my statement:
Due to the current legal problems I already have with the Michael Jackson Estate in regards to a few Authentic voice messages of Michael I used in my book, my legal counsel has advised me to reserve my comments until the aforementioned is settled.'
https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter
If it isn't him, then he simply could have denied it. Is he playing along or what?
Mmmm ......I think :icon_rolleyes: yes :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol: !!!!
And you forgot the most important line from his message ;):
"The best is yet to come !"
Dieter Wiesner
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I rearly don't understand much this guy said and i am so :Pulling_hair: that i don't be better in english....
I only watch and what i saw is that the head and the arms dosen't figure.
The haed Looks a Little bit like the Mayor in Ghosts without hair.
Look at the fingers ! The little finger from his left Hand seems to have Arthritis.
The arms looking slimmer as you think they look when you watch the head.
Can this be Michael ? The voice can be changed and no one would talk against the government or illuminati without disguise if he want to live save.
It's only a Intuition that i have when i watch this Video....i took more attension to the Body language because i can't follow what was spoken....
He holds his left Hand with his right Hand...same Michael.
He incline his head to the left, like Michael and Dave Dave at LK.
All Little things and maybee i see ghosts after this Long time.
Love to the MJ Family :bearhug:
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I saw something more but can't put it in my post before...
How he puts his Hands together like praying Hands....it's very typical for Michael and the distance between his eyes and the eye colour.
I have only such a Feeling...not so obvious on the first Moment like in the interview with Dave Dave, because they treat here the voice for his savety, but it's there.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/1209054524.jpg)
i saw that on a believer page...
I saw something more but can't put it in my post before...
How he puts his Hands together like praying Hands....it's very typical for Michael and the distance between his eyes and the eye colour.
I have only such a Feeling...not so obvious on the first Moment like in the interview with Dave Dave, because they treat here the voice for his savety, but it's there.
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Thank you so much Flory24 ! I have no idea how to put pic in my post ! So i am not the weird one who thought that this is Michael.... :)
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I know it's too much, but i ask for help.....i have rearly Problems to understand....something that starts 1994...i don't know why, but i have tears in my eyes by watching this.
If there is a member who has the time.....can anyone please write down what was said ? Then i can translate it to understand....written english isn't such a Problem. I believe that the Video is importent.
I would be very thankfull if someone can do this and i am sure not only me .
Thanks so much !
:bearhug:
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Came across this, from 2012 (sorry for the long post)
http://www.hiphopisread.com/2012/04/secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music.html
TUESDAY, APRIL 24, 2012
"The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation"
This anonymous letter landed in my inbox about a minute ago:
Hello,
After more than 20 years, I've finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I've simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren't ready for.
Between the late 80's and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.
The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn't seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn't find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.
Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn’t know what a private prison was but I wasn't the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions. He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice. He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we’d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn't dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside. My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences. We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, “It’s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.” He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.
A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me. I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I'd like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn't talk or call anyone that night. The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the 3 others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn't remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I’d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn't willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were? I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn’t uncover anything about the music business’ involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.
As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves. Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies when more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line. Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.
I officially quit the music business in 1993 but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a “quiet” life away from the world of entertainment. As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, having the internet as a resource which wasn't at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex. Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration. Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they’ve been used for the past 2 decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible. Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.
Thank you.
More on 'Prison Industrial Complex':
http://sebishiphop.wordpress.com/tag/prison-industrial-complex/
Which reminds me strongly of Michael's prison version of TDRCAU:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o[/youtube]
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I know it's too much, but i ask for help.....i have rearly Problems to understand....something that starts 1994...i don't know why, but i have tears in my eyes by watching this.
If there is a member who has the time.....can anyone please write down what was said ? Then i can translate it to understand....written english isn't such a Problem. I believe that the Video is importent.
I would be very thankfull if someone can do this and i am sure not only me .
Thanks so much !
:bearhug:
It's coming. I will type it out.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/1209054524.jpg)
Yes, that idiot pinky is highly suspicious, I agree. Voice throws you off, but could easily be manipulated. The problem is that we are talking about a bored multi-billionaire here and he can do anything he wants. For us normal idiots it's hard to understand what you can do with $$ like that. It's probably him knowing we can only guess and is probably highly entertained.
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For those of you who can see this video or hear this audio, I just wanted to make you aware of what's going on. I feel if I diseminate this information, I may actually get a night's sleep. I'm showing my face and I will reveal my name for my own protection, so if anything were to happen to me, you know it was not an accident.
My name is Robert Connors and I have served with the Department of Defense for over 20 years. Prior to that, I served active duty in both Iran and Vietnam. I have served my country with honor and distinction. My record speaks for itself. As a DOD operative, it was my duty to protect the constitution and mitigate foreign and domestic threats to this country. I joined the department to create a safer world for my children and now grand children.
Unfortunately, the last decade of my career, I have seen and been a part of one of the biggest threats to this great nation and it's citizens.
In March of 1994, I was brought in as a director of communications for a project called operation sedwick, formed under President Ronald Wilson Reagan in 1989. This program was the 2nd stage in the project called MK Ultra. It's focus and sole purpose was the control of the African American population and urban youth through music. Yes...you heard me correctly....through music.
I have in my possession a series of video and audio recordings detailing the existence of this project. My division was ordered to destroy all documentation and archived footage. I in good conscience could not.
This is the information that the American public, along with the families involved were told bold faced lies about. From the first degree murder of LeSane Parrish Crooks also known as Tupac Shakur, to the evidence of influence of entities well beyond the federal government, beyond this world will be revealed in these tapes.
To my friends still at the department- Please, I repeat please join me. For the bible says Whoever knows the right thing to do but fails to do it- for him it is sin. I can no longer live in sin. So I am giving the department until Monday September the 23rd to do the right thing and disclose this information. If they do not, I will release these tapes to the media outlets and into public domain via You Tube.
And to show I am not bluffing, I will release Michael Jackson's final phone call on the eve of his death. Mr Jackson's phone was being tapped and he is speaking of a government conspiracy to murder him.
I know this video and this this channel will probably be deleted so I urge you to please save, download and reupload everything that I release for freedom of information sake.
God bless you. Thank you for listening and God Bless You All.
I haven't got to the actual phone call yet....
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found this on twitter:
(http://grabilla.com/03913-5ed9441a-6223-4d8d-bde1-54f2ce4866d0.png)
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^^^
Thriller, I saw that too. But the ears are different. The Robert in the vid has flatter ears, more against his head.
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Thank you so much RK !!!!! Sending the biggest :bearhug: ever !
At the 23.September things will be released ? At that day Katherine has her testimony.....
Dieter Wiesner is interesting ! He Comes from Germany, so i surch a Little....4 years ago he hasn't an Office in LA, now he has....now there is no phone number on his Website and no adress, only the mail...
4 years ago and nearly the only one he reports on his site is Michael.....same as Tom Meserou ( oh god, how to write his Name...)
Michael must trust Dieter very much...Prince was alone with him in Germany....you never give your son in the Hands of a man you don't trust.
I am in hurry and have to go now, but this Little things i wanted you to know.
Love to you, Special to RK !
:th_bravo:
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It's obviously bullshit. Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? Dumb. Can't believe anyone is falling for this.
Bec, I thought about that, but with the releasing (legit or not) of the vid, he has also put Wiesner in a difficult position, the man receives thousands of emails and messages on his facebook and I can imagine that people are going to be mad at him for not speaking up. Since Wiesner don't want to comment yet (and thus deny or admit that it was his voice), I doubt that it's fake, especially if it were only an attention-grabbing joke by someone. I think Wiesner immediately would have denied that it were his and Michael's voices then.
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Thank you so much RK !!!!! Sending the biggest :bearhug: ever !
At the 23.September things will be released ? At that day Katherine has her testimony.....
Dieter Wiesner is interesting ! He Comes from Germany, so i surch a Little....4 years ago he hasn't an Office in LA, now he has....now there is no phone number on his Website and no adress, only the mail...
4 years ago and nearly the only one he reports on his site is Michael.....same as Tom Meserou ( oh god, how to write his Name...)
Michael must trust Dieter very much...Prince was alone with him in Germany....you never give your son in the Hands of a man you don't trust.
I am in hurry and have to go now, but this Little things i wanted you to know.
Love to you, Special to RK !
:th_bravo:
As far as I know Katherine will NOT be on the stand again on Monday. AEG backed out of that.
Instead Mr. Panish announced that he might present closing arguments on Monday.
I don´t trust Dieter.
He has been fired by Michael and Dieter also sued Michael. All about $
Trustworthy friend? Not in my book....
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^^^
Thriller, I saw that too. But the ears are different. The Robert in the vid has flatter ears, more against his head.
Yes, it is different. There's a slight difference near the eyes too. This guy is from FBI. For some reason reminds me of Marlon's FBI cap.
The original guy(with the hair) is no more. Then who is this one from the video? :icon_cool:
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btw, from the FB page of Dieter Wiesner:
Because of the thousands of mails i got, this will be my statement:
Due to the current legal problems I already have with the Michael Jackson Estate in regards to a few Authentic voice messages of Michael I used in my book, my legal counsel has advised me to reserve my comments until the aforementioned is settled.
https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Wiesnerdieter?fref=ts)
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Omer Bhatti on Twitter, when asked about this video (sorry, pic is real huge):
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/omer.jpg)
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I found this same face, but with another name Bob Connors
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@bobc_mass Hope all is well. Curious if you just put out a video containing Michael Jacksons last phone call??
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@ I'll never understand people's motives. Thanks for checking though. I do not have time to gossip or spread rumors.
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It's obviously bullshit. Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? Dumb. Can't believe anyone is falling for this.
Bec, I thought about that, but with the releasing (legit or not) of the vid, he has also put Wiesner in a difficult position, the man receives thousands of emails and messages on his facebook and I can imagine that people are going to be mad at him for not speaking up. Since Wiesner don't want to comment yet (and thus deny or admit that it was his voice), I doubt that it's fake, especially if it were only an attention-grabbing joke by someone. I think Wiesner immediately would have denied that it were his and Michael's voices then.
It may well be MJ's voice. I actually tend to believe it is MJ. It's still fake. I don't believe a word of these voicemail messages and recorded phone convo's where MJ is talking about all these mysterious bad guys. I think he's playing everyone for a fool. It's excellent drama. He knew this stuff would make the rounds eventually. It's like those Rabbi tapes. He calls people up, says a bunch of bullshit, then dies, and sits back to see who sells n leaks what. Sting.
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Have a look at this - some crazy countdown going on, and the voice sounds to me just like the whistleblower guy!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjaNyv1-gc[/youtube]
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It's obviously bullshit. Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? Dumb. Can't believe anyone is falling for this.
Bec, I thought about that, but with the releasing (legit or not) of the vid, he has also put Wiesner in a difficult position, the man receives thousands of emails and messages on his facebook and I can imagine that people are going to be mad at him for not speaking up. Since Wiesner don't want to comment yet (and thus deny or admit that it was his voice), I doubt that it's fake, especially if it were only an attention-grabbing joke by someone. I think Wiesner immediately would have denied that it were his and Michael's voices then.
It may well be MJ's voice. I actually tend to believe it is MJ. It's still fake. I don't believe a word of these voicemail messages and recorded phone convo's where MJ is talking about all these mysterious bad guys. I think he's playing everyone for a fool. It's excellent drama. He knew this stuff would make the rounds eventually. It's like those Rabbi tapes. He calls people up, says a bunch of bullshit, then dies, and sits back to see who sells n leaks what. Sting.
But for WHAT purposes???? If he was fooling everybody for years and years, there is no reason for a comeback, because who is gonna believe a single word that comes out of his mouth then? And what about Wiesner who got dragged in this, probably involuntarily?
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The only Thing that i wonder is why is that Video still on YouTube when he said the truth and named that Operation with it's Name ? If that was rearly a threat fo the government or Bilderberg or what ever....this Video would be deleted.
I see this silence from the Jackson Family....where are they all ?
Dieter Wiesner can be go to a safe place too....i said he has only a email adress, no phone or adress....he can be anywhere. I don't know him, but i see that he was around Michael since....very Long...
I think that Michael or the Jackson Family dosen't ever let Prince travel with someone they don't trust and Prince came with Dieter Wiesner to the Bambi Award early this year. That's in my eyes prove enough that they are Close and trustful.
I hope nothing horrible happens to innocent ppl. I mean as a blackmail to stop this Revelation.
God bless you !
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
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Ive watched and watched this vidio,and im pretty sure them hands dont belong to that head,or even head to body,its like the face has been put there,if you know what i mean...... :-\
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In the Video the Project MKUltra was mentioned...i found something on wiki....it's about mind controll.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
This is in german....sorry...but shocking if true :
http://www.extremnews.com/premium/vermischtes/berichte/welt/7d5b11916091314
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Ive watched and watched this vidio,and im pretty sure them hands dont belong to that head,or even head to body,its like the face has been put there,if you know what i mean...... :-\
That is what i see to! :icon_e_geek:
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True or not.....unbelievable but possible...what's going on in our world ?
Surching MK Ultra was shocking and i Need time to think all over. I orderd this book :
http://www.trance-formation.com/
Even if most of us can't believe this crime means not that it is impossible for some rearly rearly sick ppl.....like 9/11....
This Needs time to think about....
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
Stops at 77 and goes from there on with words??
So in 5 day's something is going to happen,and this goes on until 77 day's after the number 77?
Busy day's ahead i supose?
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
Stops at 77 and goes from there on with words??
So in 5 day's something is going to happen,and this goes on until 77 day's after the number 77?
Busy day's ahead i supose?
Some Videos are longer and he speaks about this and that.......maybee interesting ?
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
Stops at 77 and goes from there on with words??
So in 5 day's something is going to happen,and this goes on until 77 day's after the number 77?
Busy day's ahead i supose?
Some Videos are longer and he speaks about this and that.......maybee interesting ?
Thanks..going to listen to it now :icon_e_smile:
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By the way, did any mainstream media picked this up? And what about our 'dear friends' at TMZ? Very telling that they don't mention it on their site.
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In the Video the Project MKUltra was mentioned...i found something on wiki....it's about mind controll.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
This is in german....sorry...but shocking if true :
http://www.extremnews.com/premium/vermischtes/berichte/welt/7d5b11916091314
Did you ever read my blog about mind control?
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
Stops at 77 and goes from there on with words??
So in 5 day's something is going to happen,and this goes on until 77 day's after the number 77?
Busy day's ahead i supose?
Some Videos are longer and he speaks about this and that.......maybee interesting ?
I found this video..http://youtu.be/Am9cqnyPOtQ
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In the Video the Project MKUltra was mentioned...i found something on wiki....it's about mind controll.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
This is in german....sorry...but shocking if true :
http://www.extremnews.com/premium/vermischtes/berichte/welt/7d5b11916091314
Did you ever read my blog about mind control?
Hy Souza,
yes, i have and at that time i bought the first books about it, but isn't it so unbelievable that your Feelings are going back and forth ? My heart cries nooooooo, thats agaist all human rights and witch ppl are able to be so horrible ? It's like 9/11.....i have to separate Feelings from Facts and it hurts.
I thought it is time to mention it again and not Focus on the Person in the Video...more in that he told.
Greetings and god bless you !
Sorry the hp breaks down every now and then....i have Problems to post
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Look at all the Videos from Pronunciation Book:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pronunciationbook?feature=watch
Stops at 77 and goes from there on with words??
So in 5 day's something is going to happen,and this goes on until 77 day's after the number 77?
Busy day's ahead i supose?
May I take a guess? ---> US attacks Syria & WWIII is born.
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It's obviously bullshit. Anyone with something to say and who is worried about being censored and removed doesn't start with a teaser trailer with the rest of the info "coming soon!" What, so that TPTB have ample opportunity to remove the tape and him? Dumb. Can't believe anyone is falling for this.
Bec, I thought about that, but with the releasing (legit or not) of the vid, he has also put Wiesner in a difficult position, the man receives thousands of emails and messages on his facebook and I can imagine that people are going to be mad at him for not speaking up. Since Wiesner don't want to comment yet (and thus deny or admit that it was his voice), I doubt that it's fake, especially if it were only an attention-grabbing joke by someone. I think Wiesner immediately would have denied that it were his and Michael's voices then.
It may well be MJ's voice. I actually tend to believe it is MJ. It's still fake. I don't believe a word of these voicemail messages and recorded phone convo's where MJ is talking about all these mysterious bad guys. I think he's playing everyone for a fool. It's excellent drama. He knew this stuff would make the rounds eventually. It's like those Rabbi tapes. He calls people up, says a bunch of bullshit, then dies, and sits back to see who sells n leaks what. Sting.
But for WHAT purposes???? If he was fooling everybody for years and years, there is no reason for a comeback, because who is gonna believe a single word that comes out of his mouth then? And what about Wiesner who got dragged in this, probably involuntarily?
For entertainment purposes (or infotainment if you prefer). It's a live action Moonwalker. The bad guys are after him! But he fools them in the end and gets the last laugh because... he is alive, The End.
Seeing is believing. No one will need to believe a word he says because he need not say anything. He needs to just show up. And if people don't believe he is the real MJ, well, that's ok too. The ultimate forever mystery. Let people forever be not sure. He's a man of mystery; MJ the illusionist, it's a magic trick, do your eyes deceive you?
And what about Wiesner? Who cares? Maybe he's an accomplice. Maybe he's a snake being flushed out by his very own behavior; of having confidential calls with a "close friend" and then turning around and selling them or leaking them to the media after his "friend"s death. Who knows? It's all part of the mystery that is MJ.
I dunno. Makes perfect sense to me. You just have to look at it from a different perspective n then it all comes together.
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I know it's too much, but i ask for help.....i have rearly Problems to understand....something that starts 1994...i don't know why, but i have tears in my eyes by watching this.
If there is a member who has the time.....can anyone please write down what was said ? Then i can translate it to understand....written english isn't such a Problem. I believe that the Video is importent.
I would be very thankfull if someone can do this and i am sure not only me .
Thanks so much !
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go to vid - press the youtube button (this will take u to the you tube site - press the cc button - press the english
(automatic captions). u will then get what he says in text.
while on youtube site u can type in cathy o'brien. vids will show her giving lectures on her experiences while u wait on the book. be sure to look @ the vid about her GYN EXAM....EVIL PERSONIFIED !! IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT IS DONE TO BABIES & SMALL CHILDREN TO GET THEIR BRAINS TO DECOMPARTMENTALIZE. just search & u will find other victims of mk ultra- child trafficking & pedophillia. also, again press cc button if u need text words
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I know it's too much, but i ask for help.....i have rearly Problems to understand....something that starts 1994...i don't know why, but i have tears in my eyes by watching this.
If there is a member who has the time.....can anyone please write down what was said ? Then i can translate it to understand....written english isn't such a Problem. I believe that the Video is importent.
I would be very thankfull if someone can do this and i am sure not only me .
Thanks so much !
:bearhug:
It's coming. I will type it out.
i've explained to her how to get the vid with closed captions.
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I posed the possibility on the Above Top Secret thread on this subject that Robert Conners was Michael Jackson and produced photos of Michael getting his make up for his part as Mayor in Ghosts. A contributor provided the following face analysis as further evidence. The ear and nose discrepancies can easily be explained by the use of prostheses. The eye and mouth placements are compelling, IMHO. His comments are interesting as well:
With those masks on, this could very well be MJ himself.
None of the ears line up not even his own.
Only the voice is then too well done.
Mmm so maybe it is MJ. Fans would eat any lie.
Preparing a spectaculous comeback.
Wonder if dying and then coming back, doing
something like that would be punishable.
Probably his only friend left is his plastic surgeon
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2s7a049.jpg)
Here's the link to the thread. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg5
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while on youtube site u can type in cathy o'brien. vids will show her giving lectures on her experiences while u wait on the book. be sure to look @ the vid about her GYN EXAM....EVIL PERSONIFIED !! IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT IS DONE TO BABIES & SMALL CHILDREN TO GET THEIR BRAINS TO DECOMPARTMENTALIZE. just search & u will find other victims of mk ultra- child trafficking & pedophillia. also, again press cc button if u need text words
Did you know that Cathy o'Brien wrote in her book about Michael and his brothers? It's horrible and I don't see that someone like Cathy should lie about this. I really believe we don't know half of how much Michael has suffered and I feel awful about what people are doing to children and each other without any conscience.
EDIT: I' m sorry, I meant Bryce Taylor, another mind control victim, and the book she wrote.
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I posed the possibility on the Above Top Secret thread on this subject that Robert Conners was Michael Jackson and produced photos of Michael getting his make up for his part as Mayor in Ghosts. A contributor provided the following face analysis as further evidence. The ear and nose discrepancies can easily be explained by the use of prostheses. The eye and mouth placements are compelling, IMHO. His comments are interesting as well:
With those masks on, this could very well be MJ himself.
None of the ears line up not even his own.
Only the voice is then too well done.
Mmm so maybe it is MJ. Fans would eat any lie.
Preparing a spectaculous comeback.
Wonder if dying and then coming back, doing
something like that would be punishable.
Probably his only friend left is his plastic surgeon
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2s7a049.jpg)
Here's the link to the thread. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread971158/pg5
Well done posting that :th_bravo:
I wonder / hope they will look into this whole MJ Hoax idea, themselves.
Would be nice if they can "spread the news" a little :)
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Wow I have remained speechless!! :icon_e_confused:
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Wow I have remained speechless!! :icon_e_confused:
+ 1 :icon_e_surprised: Really speechless !!!! :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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while on youtube site u can type in cathy o'brien. vids will show her giving lectures on her experiences while u wait on the book. be sure to look @ the vid about her GYN EXAM....EVIL PERSONIFIED !! IT'S HORRIBLE WHAT IS DONE TO BABIES & SMALL CHILDREN TO GET THEIR BRAINS TO DECOMPARTMENTALIZE. just search & u will find other victims of mk ultra- child trafficking & pedophillia. also, again press cc button if u need text words
Did you know that Cathy o'Brien wrote in her book about Michael and his brothers? It's horrible and I don't see that someone like Cathy should lie about this. I really believe we don't know half of how much Michael has suffered and I feel awful about what people are doing to children and each other without any conscience.
Whistle Blower Laurel Aston Ex CIA Oprative Child Trafficking Victim Exposes Human Slavery Networks
EDIT: I' m sorry, I meant Bryce Taylor, another mind control victim, and the book she wrote.
yes i've listen to bryce taylor on you tube. i just listened to laurel aston's interview. in it she spoke on michael, joe & his brothers & sisters. she stated michael DID NOT sell out his soul. if u are interested svali is another good interview to listen to, if u haven't already. also, type in- 'mind control victim breaks free - scary' listen to what she is saying - TOTALLY OFF THE CHART!! but in this world who knows? i just pray one day th@ evil gets what evil deserves
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It's September 23rd... Let's see if this guy's "threats" materialize. :icon_rolleyes:
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It's September 23rd... Let's see if this guy's "threats" materialize. :icon_rolleyes:
Yes ,of course it will materialize :icon_rolleyes: ,just like Murray's nuclear bomb threat :icon_lol: :icon_e_surprised: . BTW this guy way of speaking ,resembles strikingly with that of Murray,so maybe that was his nuclear bomb :suspect: :icon_e_confused: :LolLolLolLol:
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Another teaser from our Mr. Jackson.....I mean Connors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Twp4vtKIPU&src_vid=OBQwUl2TjA8&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2515229171
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Okay :fresse:
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What the fuck is that shit?
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Another teaser from our Mr. Jackson.....I mean Connors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Twp4vtKIPU&src_vid=OBQwUl2TjA8&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2515229171
:WTF:
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Curiously, if you stop the video at .35, you see THIS!!
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6592/d556.jpg)
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what the FUCK!
This shit is scary....tbh!
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Ok, now i get it. this is performance art. watch this video by Prince EA : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8)
it's his 'work'.
So the whole Robert Connors thing was a technique for promotions.
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Ok, now i get it. this is performance art. watch this video by Prince EA : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8)
it's his 'work'.
So the whole Robert Connors thing was a technique for promotions.
I am not dismissing this so easily. Who is this Prince EA? Why is he recruiting soldiers? Why does he want everyone to change their birthdays to September 23rd? Who are this guys friends and what is his project all about?
Not saying this is Michael, but it sure does have the feel of him. Zany, unpredictable, unexpected, indecipherable.....etc.
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@gwynned I haven't said i'm dismissing anything. I'm informing that this isn't really some 'released footage' but a hard-work of a guy. Of course we haven't heard of him before but you might want to check the comments, many knew him. just google 'prince ea'.
btw: just wanted to share this screenshot with ya'll
(http://grabilla.com/03917-183572ca-a6a6-49a8-8e79-43711009d35c.png)
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:LolLolLolLol: That was funny :)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/untitljlj.png)
is this the same guy?
http://www.moabtimes.com/view/full_story/22997042/article-Shane-Schultz--1970-~-2013
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Neat. Very creative work. But not hoax related.
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What the fuck is that shit?
I thought the same shit
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Ok, now i get it. this is performance art. watch this video by Prince EA : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MukzqDUm-e8)
it's his 'work'.
So the whole Robert Connors thing was a technique for promotions.
I am not dismissing this so easily. Who is this Prince EA? Why is he recruiting soldiers? Why does he want everyone to change their birthdays to September 23rd? Who are this guys friends and what is his project all about?
Not saying this is Michael, but it sure does have the feel of him. Zany, unpredictable, unexpected, indecipherable.....etc.
Gwynned totally agree.
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Michael Plays too much. lmao. wtf?
(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1373962195/IMG_8783bw.jpg)
https://twitter.com/twix48
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Someone else sees a connection to Michael, Prince EA and Robbert Connors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ACLBI5kcY
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I think we can safely say this has nothing to do with MJ. Using the 'last MJ phone call' thing was a clever ruse to get views/hits from MJ fans - and it worked! But I shan't be looking at any more of this stuff, not my thing at all.
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Someone else sees a connection to Michael, Prince EA and Robbert Connors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ACLBI5kcY
Please watch this Video and stop it at 1:08 when someone looking like Dracula goes to this Robert Connor..... :affraid:
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Another teaser from our Mr. Jackson.....I mean Connors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Twp4vtKIPU&src_vid=OBQwUl2TjA8&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2515229171
No to yep lol :icon_lol:,of course that wasn't really Michael Jackson on that tape :icon_geek: . The REAL Michael Jackson died in 1986 and he was replaced by the illuminati Michael Jackson with white skin :icon_rolleyes: :icon_lol:.
One day you shall all see the truth ;) .
(http://thetangential.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/mr-burns-wallpaper.gif)
Gwynned, slowly but surely, our prophecy is being fulfilled :icon_cool:, and piece by piece MJ is revealed, "behind all these masks" ;) :icon_e_wink: .
Hell, he uses exclamation points every time the word "you" is used,and at the end he even points at the viewers. The line when is say's " A break in the case, all this time you were right in my face" the way he looks at the camera is like he's looking at the viewers :suspect: :icon_eek:.It is US he speaks of,his AUDIENCE :icon_cool: .
I really think that Miss cats away parody-movie was done with a goal and not just for fun :icon_cool:.Somebody here on this forum said something about HOLLYWOOD and the illusion that can be created.During this hoax we had alot of popcorn "thrown" directly in our faces,don't you believe? :icon_e_surprised: :LolLolLolLol: .In the movie ,Michael clearly says that The Ark has been taken over by SPECIES (Illuminaty lol ) and plans to "TAKE OVER" the mankind.When Michael is being asked what kind of SPECIES is he talking about,he shows POPCORN and COOL DRINKS cartoons albino/ !!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXy6NuYvXfE[/youtube]
Every single character in this movie is a METAPHOR for something TAKING OVER OUR LIFES.......(1 clue:THE POPCORN and COOL DRINK CARTOON represents CINEMA or MAKE BELIEVE- Mj wants to destroy it) .That's it ,or should I say THIS IS IT ;) !!!!!!!
PS : Since we speak about entities beyond this world/aliens/extraterrestrial matters,I found very ironic Lionel's Richie recent comment:
Someone asked me what was my New Year's resolution, and it's the same every year. I hope we find intelligent life...on Earth."
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UWLfLH-pEVo[/youtube]
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latest video.....
Kinda crazy, but listen to the end. I promise you, you won't be disappointed.
It's been 16 years. How the media said I died but I'm still breathing.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyU1gdyKqQ
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Between 5:36 and 5:40 you see a piuture of a demons face, camera goes down, hand removes the picture, you see the name M Michael jackson, camera goes up and you see Michaels picture with a blank, removed face. i believe in the second vid there was also some kind of demon face which also seemed michaels face. Now what does this all mean?? What a crazy stuff!!?
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I think someone smoked too much.
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I think someone smoked too much.
That may be. The question is WHO might that be? :thjajaja121:
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weird vid!! the demons in the vid & robt connors speaking of forces beyond this realm made me think of john todd.
john todd was an exec. in the industry. he has since gone missing & presumed dead -
http://youtu.be/Otti-82jEAc - Demons Behind The Music Industry (Ex Illuminati explains)
i always did like this song & never knew why or what it meant ( although at the time i was heavily buzzed) -
http://youtu.be/Yyy4yaVwsv0 - The Eagles Hotel California [Remastered] 01 Hotel California
still liking it - GOOD TIMES :multiplespotting:
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since john todd came to mind a did a little more checking. apparently he was sentenced for the rape of a college student & 2 children hmmmm ( set up ??) he then was released & sent to a mental institution where he supposedly died from cancer. according to what i found out there are a lot of inconsistencies with his death.
http://youtu.be/HUH2LN0-QAk - John Todd was killed in 1979 don't trust Wikipedia
CRAZY WORLD...smh
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since john todd came to mind a did a little more checking. apparently he was sentenced for the rape of a college student & 2 children hmmmm ( set up ??) he then was released & sent to a mental institution where he supposedly died from cancer. according to what i found out there are a lot of inconsistencies with his death.
http://youtu.be/HUH2LN0-QAk - John Todd was killed in 1979 don't trust Wikipedia
CRAZY WORLD...smh
You can find a lot about John Todd on Bonnie Cox' blog http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.nl
Use the search box to the right of the blog.
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since john todd came to mind a did a little more checking. apparently he was sentenced for the rape of a college student & 2 children hmmmm ( set up ??) he then was released & sent to a mental institution where he supposedly died from cancer. according to what i found out there are a lot of inconsistencies with his death.
http://youtu.be/HUH2LN0-QAk - John Todd was killed in 1979 don't trust Wikipedia
CRAZY WORLD...smh
You can find a lot about John Todd on Bonnie Cox' blog http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.nl
Use the search box to the right of the blog.
thanks for the info. while skimming the articles i started to wonder, is this being done as a round about way to get out info on the music industry? instead of just coming out & saying it. this way some people will check around to see what is going on?
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@luvandmissyoumike.....' thanks for the info. while skimming the articles i started to wonder, is this being done as a round about way to get out info on the music industry? instead of just coming out & saying it. this way some people will check around to see what is going on?'
You make an excellent point. People often react negatively if they are told something directly, especially if it contradicts their notion of reality. however, if you allow some element of discovery into the equation, people are more able to embrace a new idea. Besides, I can say little with confidence about Mr. Jackson except to expect the unexpected. He did say he would out think them (and us, presumably.)