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Title: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: santiago on July 24, 2013, 07:00:10 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/conrad-murray-aeg-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-testify-warning/ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/conrad-murray-aeg-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-testify-warning/)

DR. MURRAY TO JACKSON FAMILY
MARK MY WORDS, I'LL DESTROY YOU
'Consider This an Imminent Nuclear Warning

You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

At least that's what Dr. Conrad Murray is saying to AEG and the Jackson family, claiming he's prepared to drop a nuclear bomb on the entire wrongful death lawsuit if he's forced to testify ... a bomb that neither side can begin to fathom ... and that will blow both sides out of the water.

It's the second time Murray's threatened AEG and the Jackson family with destructive testimony, suggesting he's been keeping a bombshell secret for years regarding Michael and the singer's true relationship with his family -- but the latest threat is borderline scary.

Murray made the threat in a recent voicemail message to a friend, pleading with AEG and the Jacksons for one last time to leave him in peace and spare him from testifying.

He says, "Please stop. If you don’t, let this serve as my final warning to both sides. Don’t incite me to testify. Consider this as an imminent nuclear warning. Enough is enough." He then hints at the nature of his "nuclear" secret.

Murray was subpoenaed to testify in Katherine's $40 billion lawsuit against AEG -- but he pled the 5th because he doesn't want to incriminate himself in any upcoming legal proceedings ... after he appealed to overturn his manslaughter conviction.

And it sounds like he has other reasons for not wanting to testify as well.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/conrad-murray-aeg-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-testify-warning/#ixzz2ZxnM8M43
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com

You can listen to the weird audio on tmz, (didnt know how to insert that here... and it says 'audio copyright NPG.com"

Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: applehead250609 on July 24, 2013, 07:43:31 AM
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DR. MURRAY TO JACKSON FAMILY
MARK MY WORDS, I'LL DESTROY YOU
'Consider This an Imminent Nuclear Warning

You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

At least that's what Dr. Conrad Murray is saying to AEG and the Jackson family, claiming he's prepared to drop a nuclear bomb on the entire wrongful death lawsuit if he's forced to testify ... a bomb that neither side can begin to fathom ... and that will blow both sides out of the water.

It's the second time Murray's threatened AEG and the Jackson family with destructive testimony, suggesting he's been keeping a bombshell secret for years regarding Michael and the singer's true relationship with his family -- but the latest threat is borderline scary.

Murray made the threat in a recent voicemail message to a friend, pleading with AEG and the Jacksons for one last time to leave him in peace and spare him from testifying.

He says, "Please stop. If you don’t, let this serve as my final warning to both sides. Don’t incite me to testify. Consider this as an imminent nuclear warning. Enough is enough." He then hints at the nature of his "nuclear" secret.

Murray was subpoenaed to testify in Katherine's $40 billion lawsuit against AEG -- but he pled the 5th because he doesn't want to incriminate himself in any upcoming legal proceedings ... after he appealed to overturn his manslaughter conviction.

And it sounds like he has other reasons for not wanting to testify as well.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/conrad-murray-aeg-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-testify-warning/#ixzz2ZxnM8M43
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com

You can listen to the weird audio on tmz, (didnt know how to insert that here... and it says 'audio copyright NPG.com"

                                                                                                You can't handle the truth...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P0GTQFU4UpY/TzRlsqUq3JI/AAAAAAAAEjc/Gmw3Tyh349w/s1600/A-Few-Good-Men-31.jpg)


OMG,this is so obvious that it's starting to become BORING  :icon_rolleyes:   :thjajaja121:!!!!
TMZ is reading this forum, I'm telling you   :icon_lol: .This is for you,TMZ:


(http://d104xtrw2rzoau.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/funny-gif-Kanye-West-laughing.gif)

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....suggesting he's been keeping a bombshell secret for years regarding Michael and the singer's true relationship with his family -- but the latest threat is borderline scary.

What,what secret lol ?? What was his true relationship with his family  :suspect:?? That maybe he was not their real son,and that maybe he was adopted   :icon_rolleyes:  :icon_geek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:??
And btw,Murray can make phonecalls ,cause he has a cell phone on the wall of his cell,lol  :icon_eek:  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_lol: .This is so out of this world  :animal0017:,but he alreay phoned Paris,and more recently TMZ  :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: !!!! Here is Ann,explaining better  :icon_geek:.......


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GCjKbSexqw&feature=c4-overview&list=UUFv0h5Y1bVVj8ROVstiJi5A[/youtube]
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Snoopy71 on July 24, 2013, 07:52:01 AM
This should get interesting  :animal0017:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 24, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
He severed ties with his "extended" family?? Ok, but he didnt severe ties with his immediate family? Who the hell cares?

If he severed ties with his parents or siblings, thats one thing. We know who they are, but "extended family"? Like who is in that extended family? and why should anyone care? This sounds like a lot of huffing and puffing, trying to make something out of nothing?

I hope Conrad testifies! It should be interesting.

Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Starchild on July 24, 2013, 10:29:37 AM
Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify.  Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.               

And Murray’s claim of MJ having severed family ties. Why? To proceed with the death hoax with as few knowing about it as possible (in order to maintain authentic reactions and secrecy)?  :animal0017:           

Yes, this is interesting.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: iLoveyoumore on July 24, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
That bomb must be da long waited 'troot' he's been talking about.

Very interesting.  :fresse:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: iLoveyoumore on July 24, 2013, 11:28:14 AM
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I hope Conrad testifies! It should be interesting.

Me too though at least Putnam said something like 'he has no intention of calling him'. And the judge said 'there are several steps needed to bring an inmate to testify.' We'll see!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 24, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
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Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify.  Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.               

And Murray’s claim of MJ having severed family ties. Why? To proceed with the death hoax with as few knowing about it as possible (in order to maintain authentic reactions and secrecy)?  :animal0017:           

Yes, this is interesting

That makes sense.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 24, 2013, 11:35:39 AM
Is this, the below Nuclear Warning signal over Michael' shoulder, the one CM is talking about? I know there is one video where Michael shows this signal in black and yellow as the original one but I can't find it, is it possible that Michael was hinting CM's nuclear warning back then?  :icon_lol:


(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/screenoio.png)

(http://i1.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/lens17736575_1299932671Nuclear_Warning_Symbol.gi)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 24, 2013, 12:01:26 PM
That sign behind MJ DOES look a lot like the nuclear symbol. And I think that cant be written off as simply a concidence. But I think (and this is only an opinion) that the symbol behind MJ may refer to the illuminati's pyramid. To "restore order" that pyramid must be flipped upside, where the majority is at the top and the minority is on the bottom.

[imghttp://(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o530/Killullinati/qi4fc921fb_zps055b554e.jpg) (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/Killullinati/media/qi4fc921fb_zps055b554e.jpg.html)][/img]

MJ has used anti NWO symbolism before (as we all probably know). His hand pointing downwards as he stand right infront of the all knowing eye.

I know that may sound a little whacky lol, but I hope I made myself clear
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: MJonmind on July 24, 2013, 12:16:00 PM
Starchild
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Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify.  Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.
He sure knows how to get people's attention, wanting to know the big Truth! He must have taken lessons from MJ. I'm sure it will happen according to hoax schedule.

Sweet, cool you spotted that symbol, when most eyes would just be on MJ! :icon_lol:
It seems it stands for fall-out shelter, put out everywhere during the cold war period.
http://anewdesigns.blogspot.ca/2010_05_01_archive.html
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: suspicious mind on July 24, 2013, 12:56:11 PM
fallout from the fallguy  :icon_lol:



interesting if he is really pleading with them to not make him do this.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 24, 2013, 02:09:28 PM
I don't understand a damn thing. They should be on the same side, so what's this all about ??

does he say none of you  would have to  guess who is coming to dinner...what does he mean by that ??
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 24, 2013, 02:28:05 PM
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Starchild
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Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify.  Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.
He sure knows how to get people's attention, wanting to know the big Truth! He must have taken lessons from MJ. I'm sure it will happen according to hoax schedule.

Sweet, cool you spotted that symbol, when most eyes would just be on MJ! :icon_lol:
It seems it stands for fall-out shelter, put out everywhere during the cold war period.
http://anewdesigns.blogspot.ca/2010_05_01_archive.html

Oh....so Michael showed us that signal to let us know where to hide in case of a Nuclear Bomb thrown by CM  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 24, 2013, 06:00:58 PM
It's the second Dr. Murray is warning for a seismic shock

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CONRAD MURRAY
Leave Me Out of MJ Wrongful Death Suit ...
OR FACE DESTRUCTION
EXCLUSIVE

Dr. Conrad Murray believes his testimony in Michael Jackson's wrongful death lawsuit would lead to catastrophic consequences for one side -- and he's not saying which -- so it's best to leave him the hell alone.

Murray made the veiled threat last night in a bizarre, rambling voicemail he left on a friend's machine -- obtained by TMZ -- and you have to hear it to believe it.

The doc who's serving time for manslaughter says, "If I am compelled to speak [in court] I can cause one party or the other to experience the impact of an immediate seismic shock" resulting in "a total and complete debacle" for both sides.

Murray -- who was subpoenaed to testify in Katherine Jackson's $40 billion lawsuit against AEG -- has pled the 5th because he doesn't want to incriminate himself in any upcoming legal proceedings stemming from his appeal to overturn his manslaughter conviction.

Which begs the question ... what's he NOT saying? You gotta listen to this thing.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/03/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-voicemail-recording/


http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23730.0.html

It seems that he has already dropped a little 'pre' bomb of truth, thank you Dr. Murray. In the first warning of last April CM didn't reveal anything, it was just a warning, but now he opens up about Michael's relationship with his family. The only difference is that TMZ wrote about Michael's "true relationship with his family" while in the audio CM talks about "Michael's extended family"

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suggesting he's been keeping a bombshell secret for years regarding Michael and the singer's true relationship with his family --

Conrad Murray: "It's time to speak the truth and be honest, tell the world that Michael had severed all relationships with every member of his extended family before he passed and explained the reasons for his action... (I think he said) I bet he won't do that".

"reasons for his action".. what action?? Hoaxing his death?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: blankie on July 24, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
Waiting for the bomb !!!  :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :moonwalk_:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: wishingstar on July 24, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
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I don't understand a damn thing. They should be on the same side, so what's this all about ??

does he say none of you  would have to  guess who is coming to dinner...what does he mean by that ??

Not sure, but found this movie....it's very fitting and quite an amazing film:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCAaEbCDovQ[/youtube]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061735/

Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: suspicious mind on July 24, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
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I don't understand a damn thing. They should be on the same side, so what's this all about ??

does he say none of you  would have to  guess who is coming to dinner...what does he mean by that ??

Not sure, but found this movie....it's very fitting and quite an amazing film:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCAaEbCDovQ[/youtube]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061735/


wondering if he cut ties for reasons that might be connected to the content of this movie would he really want his kids to be where they are?   :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Andrea on July 24, 2013, 09:53:47 PM

Gotta love Murray's soliloquys.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: bec on July 24, 2013, 11:40:15 PM
Well I'm just dying to know what he has to say.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: MJonmind on July 25, 2013, 03:17:03 AM
Wish, that was some side-jaunt--I was bawling my eyes out by the time it came to the girl's father's acceptance speech. :'( :'(
Okay back to Murray's ever intellectual speeches. :icon_lol

When I looked up 'extended' family, the definition seems to be grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, their children, and more.
But for me personally I use 'extended' also for my siblings, (grand) nieces, (grand) nephews, as the family grows, and my 'immediate' family  has evolved to my husband and my 3 children (with likely the next few years-grandchildren). When I say I'm going with my family somewhere (etc) I usually have to separate the 2, and that's how I do it now. But perhaps that's wrong; what do you guys think?
It would make more sense and be more controversial for CM to be referring to MJ severing ties with his siblings and parents for hoax reasons. But for him to sever ties with all the likely hundreds of related people to him, it is very 'who cares'.



Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: katooooooo on July 25, 2013, 07:12:57 AM
Who's with me if I say that we will never hear what CM ''Bomb'' is? Like every time he had something to tell, we never know it...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 25, 2013, 09:21:32 AM
Busting to hear from Connie!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: charissa on July 25, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
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Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify.  Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.               

And Murray’s claim of MJ having severed family ties. Why? To proceed with the death hoax with as few knowing about it as possible (in order to maintain authentic reactions and secrecy)?  :animal0017:           

Yes, this is interesting

That makes sense.

The only things needed to make an inmate testify is a subpoena and a ride to the courthouse.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: RK on July 25, 2013, 09:43:28 AM
Damn Connie. Just spit it out man. I'm certain we can handle the truth. We've been waiting long enough to hear it. 
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: charissa on July 25, 2013, 09:49:30 AM
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Damn Connie. Just spit it out man. I'm certain we can handle the truth. We've been waiting long enough to hear it. 

I won't say he absolutely will not testify, but I'll be very surprised if he does. If Murray had anything "explosive" in his arsenal, he'd have used it to save his own ass from imprisonment. Maybe a tell all book when he's released? Why not? Nearly everyone who'd ever met Michael when he was "alive" wrote one following his "death".
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 25, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
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"Consider this as an imminent nuclear warning. Enough is enough. I have no further tolerance for lies, your deception, nor your insolence. If your calumny persists, none of you will have to guess who is coming to dinner, and that’s at the court house"


To me, I dunno, JMO, this is clearly MJ speaking. I feel silly saying this. I really do, but its days like today, after reading the kind of things quoted above, that I half expect Connie to peel off his prosthetic mask to reveal Mr Jackson...


I know we entertained it seriously, ages ago. Then we dismissed it. Then we entertained it again abt 6 months ago, going on to find 2 CMs, veins and weird things on his face, and pictures that really pointed towards a prosthetic. Then we all laughed and dismissed it. Honestly, (and I hope I don't get beat up for this) some days I can't shake the thought that CM is MJ... *cringe*

I know he is on a figurative level. But sometimes, the ol "CM is MJ is disguise" gets me.


Ok. Come @ me....

lol
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: bec on July 25, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
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Who's with me if I say that we will never hear what CM ''Bomb'' is? Like every time he had something to tell, we never know it...

I'm thinking the same. Probably just another false start.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: charissa on July 25, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
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"Consider this as an imminent nuclear warning. Enough is enough. I have no further tolerance for lies, your deception, nor your insolence. If your calumny persists, none of you will have to guess who is coming to dinner, and that’s at the court house"


To me, I dunno, JMO, this is clearly MJ speaking. I feel silly saying this. I really do, but its days like today, after reading the kind of things quoted above, that I half expect Connie to peel off his prosthetic mask to reveal Mr Jackson...


I know we entertained it seriously, ages ago. Then we dismissed it. Then we entertained it again abt 6 months ago, going on to find 2 CMs, veins and weird things on his face, and pictures that really pointed towards a prosthetic. Then we all laughed and dismissed it. Honestly, (and I hope I don't get beat up for this) some days I can't shake the thought that CM is MJ... *cringe*

I know he is on a figurative level. But sometimes, the ol "CM is MJ is disguise" gets me.


Ok. Come @ me....

lol

I don't know about the whole MJ is Connie thing, but honestly, if you go back and listen to Murray's past statements, this really doesn't sound like his manner of speech.

As an act of desperation, to save their suddenly sinking ship & floundering case (after witnesses turn & reveal truths they'd rather not be revealed), AEG demands that Murray be called to testify and in a surprising and shocking revelation, when it's not Murray, but Michael who appears the truth to all of this is revealed????

Vindication??

Or, someone is blowing smoke up people's asses with this teaser???
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 25, 2013, 10:12:20 AM
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Or, someone is blowing smoke up people's asses with this teaser???

Yeah, more than likely the later. And "people" being hoaxers.  :icon_rolleyes:



Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: RK on July 25, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
No ones gonna come at you Aussie. I'd settle to  know for sure if he's in an actual jail cell.

Sorry @Charissa...but this is the way I first read your post. Oh to be cursed with a love of toilet humour at my age... :icon_redface:

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If Murray had anything "explosive" in his arse

Made me think of the TMZ article about Conrad's trouble digesting the "cat food" he is forced to eat in there.
OK...sorry people ...I promise to be good now.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 25, 2013, 10:18:16 AM
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No ones gonna come at you Aussie.
It was tongue in cheek, because I actually feel stupid thinking it. Ha  :icon_e_wink:

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I'd settle to  know for sure if he's in an actual jail cell.

I'd bet my family inheritance on CM never even spending 5 seconds in a cell!

Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: charissa on July 25, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
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No ones gonna come at you Aussie. I'd settle to  know for sure if he's in an actual jail cell.

Sorry @Charissa...but this is the way I first read your post. Oh to be cursed with a love of toilet humour at my age... :icon_redface:

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If Murray had anything "explosive" in his arse

Made me think of the TMZ article about Conrad's trouble digesting the "cat food" he is forced to eat in there.
OK...sorry people ...I promise to be good now.

lol @RK. I completely understand.

Just this morning a colleague sent me an email with a pic that was captioned:

"If my body was a car, I'd trade it in on a newer model, 'cause every time I cough or sneeze, my radiator leaks and my exhaust backfires."

Here's to us 'older folks' & our toilet humor, lol.  :beerchug:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Snoopy71 on July 25, 2013, 10:32:18 AM
In a strange (and rather dramatic) way I think Dr. Murray is trying to state that he's staying neutral.

He won't assist either side in this fight. :judge-smiley:


He knows information that can help and hurt both sides.  :ghsdf:


....it will be interesting to see if they just let him be or force him back into the game.  :animal0017:




*edit....I can't remember if Murray was on the proposed witness list. This could all just be another distraction/added drama.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 25, 2013, 10:56:34 AM
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He won't assist either side in this fight. :judge-smiley:


I think that this 'fight' is staged and not even real.

I tend to think that the majority of parties are on the same team.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 25, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
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Well I'm just dying to know what he has to say.

(http://ww2today.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Unexploded-Bomb-warning-sign.jpg)

(http://www.scribbleoneverything.com/images/uploads/WallDecals/cartoon/bam.gif)

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Faithad777 on July 25, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
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He won't assist either side in this fight. :judge-smiley:


I think that this 'fight' is staged and not even real.

I tend to think that the majority of parties are on the same team.


If we believe Keya Morgan's tweets about sitting next to Randy Phillips and Tohme and hearing their conversation,

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Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 5 May
WOW! Randy Phillips of AEG and Dr. Tohme Tohme are seated right next to me at beverly hills hotel.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
I just found out that my tweet about Phillips & Tohme was used in court today in the Jackson case & plus a lot more.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
God does everything for a reason! I know Tohme & Phillips siting next to me talking about #MJ was planed by the big boss above.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
The stuff Randy Phillips & Tohme Tohme said in front of me about Michael Jackson & Katherine Jackson made me sick. I could not eat my lunch.



then I believe this trial is to expose AEG and their treatment of Michael.  I believe it is one of the reasons for the hoax, for the truth to come out and not about money at all.  But in order for the truth to come out about AEG, Katherine (on behalf of Michael) had to take such drastic measures such as this civil trial.....
I think a lot of truth is hidden behind behind a lot of the lies..........
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: paula-c on July 25, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
He's not going to say anything :-[
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Dontwalkaway on July 25, 2013, 03:25:23 PM

@Aussie, I have had the same thoughts going through my mind about Conrad taking off his mask- BAM.   :affraid:   So, you're not alone with this line of thinking. 
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Do on July 25, 2013, 06:15:09 PM
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It's the second Dr. Murray is warning for a seismic shock

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CONRAD MURRAY
Leave Me Out of MJ Wrongful Death Suit ...
OR FACE DESTRUCTION
EXCLUSIVE

Dr. Conrad Murray believes his testimony in Michael Jackson's wrongful death lawsuit would lead to catastrophic consequences for one side -- and he's not saying which -- so it's best to leave him the hell alone.

Murray made the veiled threat last night in a bizarre, rambling voicemail he left on a friend's machine -- obtained by TMZ -- and you have to hear it to believe it.

The doc who's serving time for manslaughter says, "If I am compelled to speak [in court] I can cause one party or the other to experience the impact of an immediate seismic shock" resulting in "a total and complete debacle" for both sides.

Murray -- who was subpoenaed to testify in Katherine Jackson's $40 billion lawsuit against AEG -- has pled the 5th because he doesn't want to incriminate himself in any upcoming legal proceedings stemming from his appeal to overturn his manslaughter conviction.

Which begs the question ... what's he NOT saying? You gotta listen to this thing.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/03/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-voicemail-recording/


http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23730.0.html

It seems that he has already dropped a little 'pre' bomb of truth, thank you Dr. Murray. In the first warning of last April CM didn't reveal anything, it was just a warning, but now he opens up about Michael's relationship with his family. The only difference is that TMZ wrote about Michael's "true relationship with his family" while in the audio CM talks about "Michael's extended family"

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suggesting he's been keeping a bombshell secret for years regarding Michael and the singer's true relationship with his family --

Conrad Murray: "It's time to speak the truth and be honest, tell the world that Michael had severed all relationships with every member of his extended family before he passed and explained the reasons for his action... (I think he said) I bet he won't do that".

"reasons for his action".. what action?? Hoaxing his death?

Actually it's the thirth time he said he knows something that, if it comes out, it will absolutely shock the world.
I feel it's something about Michael's younger years. Murray said in his documentary 'The man who killed Michael Jackson', that Joseph had done horrible things to him (Michael). It was not claer to me if Murray meant by Joseph's own hands (which he did also, but that we already know about, at least some things) or that Joseph enabled others to do horrible things with or to his son. In the Schmuley tapes, Schmuley asked Michael what he wanted to say to his father, and Michael answered: 'Do you know what you have done to me?' It's a feeling I have for the longest time, and that is that Michael was abused (sexual) when he was a child. And I'm afraid that if this is true (and I pray it's not, not for any child in the world) people are going to think that history has repeated itself and thus Michael was a childmolester too. It also could be very damaging for any high profile people or companies, because child molestation is tragically very common in the entertainment industry. So, Murray's testimony could be damaging for both sides.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: MJonmind on July 26, 2013, 02:51:30 AM
Aussie, I've shelved that CM disguise thot, but every once and a while I dust it off and look at it! :icon_lol:

Charissa
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"If my body was a car, I'd trade it in on a newer model, 'cause every time I cough or sneeze, my radiator leaks and my exhaust backfires."
Ah to be human... Thank goodness for humor!

I think he's going to testify. Remember the Uno game Mrs. Jackson was playing-- CM's the Wild card!
MJ the director has also written this script, and it has to be a cliff hanger, nail biter, suspenseful story or we'd all loose interest.

Aussie
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I think that this 'fight' is staged and not even real.

I tend to think that the majority of parties are on the same team.
That's how I lean, tho not 100% certain of course.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 26, 2013, 06:16:20 AM
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That's how I lean, tho not 100% certain of course.

Just like everything else in this hoax I guess  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: blankie on July 26, 2013, 06:46:06 PM
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He won't assist either side in this fight. :judge-smiley:


I think that this 'fight' is staged and not even real.

I tend to think that the majority of parties are on the same team.


If we believe Keya Morgan's tweets about sitting next to Randy Phillips and Tohme and hearing their conversation,

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Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 5 May
WOW! Randy Phillips of AEG and Dr. Tohme Tohme are seated right next to me at beverly hills hotel.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
I just found out that my tweet about Phillips & Tohme was used in court today in the Jackson case & plus a lot more.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
God does everything for a reason! I know Tohme & Phillips siting next to me talking about #MJ was planed by the big boss above.

Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 13 Jun
The stuff Randy Phillips & Tohme Tohme said in front of me about Michael Jackson & Katherine Jackson made me sick. I could not eat my lunch.



then I believe this trial is to expose AEG and their treatment of Michael.  I believe it is one of the reasons for the hoax, for the truth to come out and not about money at all.  But in order for the truth to come out about AEG, Katherine (on behalf of Michael) had to take such drastic measures such as this civil trial.....
I think a lot of truth is hidden behind behind a lot of the lies..........


It's all part of the Michael's  plan : how many times he said  not  believe what people says or writes.....  :moonwalk_:  :icon_e_wink: :michael-jackson: :icon_geek:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: curls on July 27, 2013, 02:16:55 AM
Keya Morgan is an 'interesting' guy. One to watch maybe??  A believer in disguise??  IDK.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1708243/bio
https://twitter.com/KeyaMorgan
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Faithad777 on July 27, 2013, 02:32:27 AM
Curls, I found this in the imdb link you just posted:

Survivor of the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center in New York City.

Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: curls on July 27, 2013, 04:31:16 AM
^^^ yes, I noticed that too.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 27, 2013, 07:59:37 AM
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Keya Morgan is an 'interesting' guy. One to watch maybe??  A believer in disguise??  IDK.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1708243/bio
https://twitter.com/KeyaMorgan

I concur. In fact absolutely believe that he is a believer!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 27, 2013, 09:21:28 AM
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Keya Morgan is an 'interesting' guy. One to watch maybe??  A believer in disguise??  IDK.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1708243/bio
https://twitter.com/KeyaMorgan

I think he is a beLIEver because he always writes in present tense when referring to Michael.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: suspicious mind on July 27, 2013, 10:41:49 PM
ummm would kiwi be a possible nickname for someone name keya?  :icon_redface:  :icon_neutral:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 28, 2013, 03:56:45 AM
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I think he is a beLIEver because he always writes in present tense when referring to Michael.

yep!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: blankie on July 28, 2013, 02:48:39 PM
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I think he is a beLIEver because he always writes in present tense when referring to Michael.

yep!


 :th_bravo:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: MJonmind on July 28, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
Hmm...well I looked thru his tweets and tho he is wonderfully positive/truthful/loving towards MJ, I only see past tense. It doesn't mean he's NOT a believer but...  He just tweeted this.

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Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 7m
I tweet about Michael Jackson a lot because he was my favorite artist and is now dead and can no longer defend himself. #RIP #MJ
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 29, 2013, 06:49:02 AM
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Hmm...well I looked thru his tweets and tho he is wonderfully positive/truthful/loving towards MJ, I only see past tense. It doesn't mean he's NOT a believer but...  He just tweeted this.

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Keya Morgan ‏@KeyaMorgan 7m
I tweet about Michael Jackson a lot because he was my favorite artist and is now dead and can no longer defend himself. #RIP #MJ

For sure he is reading here and he probably doesn't want to be called a believer for respect to Michael (maybe he thinks Michael wouldn't like it) or maybe he is suddenly afraid to be so crystal clear. People around Michael are confused to hint Michael being alive or not, I don't Know if you understand what I mean?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: RK on July 29, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
This article claims Murray will do the exploding of information on TV after his release from jail.

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628 (http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628)


Michael Jackson - Conrad Murray planning TV tell-all on Jackson
by Bang Showbiz | 29 July 2013
Conrad Murray is reportedly threatening to reveal ''explosive'' secrets about Michael Jackson and his family on TV when he is released from prison in October.

Conrad Murray is threatening to reveal Michael Jackson's ''explosive'' secrets on TV.
The disgraced former doctor - who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after delivering a fatal dose of Propofol to the King of Pop in June 2009 - has reportedly been fielding multi-million dollar deals to-tell all about the late singer and his family when he is granted an early release from prison in October.
Murray has warned the 'Thriller' star's family that if they continue to push him ''to the limit'' by slating him in the press and in their wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoters AEG Live, he will not hesitate to dish the dirt on Michael's relatives - which he claims could ''tarnish'' their reputations.
In a statement obtained by the Daily Star newspaper, he said: ''Though I have encountered so much sorrow and I have a great deal of explosive information that is fodder for tarnishing images, I've remained loyal to Michael and to foes over the past four years.
''I will continue to be faithful and endure unless and until I'm pushed to the limit and endurance is no more.''
The jailed physician has angered Michael's family by refusing to aid his mother Katherine Jackson's $100 million lawsuit against AEG - who she claims is responsible for the star's death by negligently hiring Murray - and has insisted he won't give evidence in the trial.
Meanwhile, it was recently confirmed that Murray will receive early release from prison in October for good behaviour.
Murray - who lost his medical license when he was found guilty - was jailed in November 2011 and will leave prison having served just under half of his four-year sentence.

Contactmusic
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Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: suspicious mind on August 04, 2013, 08:17:22 AM
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This article claims Murray will do the exploding of information on TV after his release from jail.

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628 (http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628)


Michael Jackson - Conrad Murray planning TV tell-all on Jackson
by Bang Showbiz | 29 July 2013
Conrad Murray is reportedly threatening to reveal ''explosive'' secrets about Michael Jackson and his family on TV when he is released from prison in October.

Conrad Murray is threatening to reveal Michael Jackson's ''explosive'' secrets on TV.
The disgraced former doctor - who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after delivering a fatal dose of Propofol to the King of Pop in June 2009 - has reportedly been fielding multi-million dollar deals to-tell all about the late singer and his family when he is granted an early release from prison in October.
Murray has warned the 'Thriller' star's family that if they continue to push him ''to the limit'' by slating him in the press and in their wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoters AEG Live, he will not hesitate to dish the dirt on Michael's relatives - which he claims could ''tarnish'' their reputations.
In a statement obtained by the Daily Star newspaper, he said: ''Though I have encountered so much sorrow and I have a great deal of explosive information that is fodder for tarnishing images, I've remained loyal to Michael and to foes ??? over the past four years.
''I will continue to be faithful and endure unless and until I'm pushed to the limit and endurance is no more.''
The jailed physician has angered Michael's family by refusing to aid his mother Katherine Jackson's $100 million lawsuit against AEG - who she claims is responsible for the star's death by negligently hiring Murray - and has insisted he won't give evidence in the trial.
Meanwhile, it was recently confirmed that Murray will receive early release from prison in October for good behaviour.
Murray - who lost his medical license when he was found guilty - was jailed in November 2011 and will leave prison having served just under half of his four-year sentence.

Contactmusic

ummm with the exeption of kate , could i ask which of the jackson's image are not already at least a little bit tarnished already?
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Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Snoopy71 on August 04, 2013, 08:30:15 AM
My thing is...Michael trusted few people.

So I am reluctant to believe that he shared any "explosive" secrets with Murray (assuming this report of a "tell all book" is true). I remember this rumor being shopped around years ago.

As we all know, Michael told people what he wanted them to know (and believe).  :ghsdf:

If Murray is coming out with some type of "revelations", I'd bet the farm it is something Michael has already arranged.


It seems as of late we are getting all these "pieces to a puzzle", but they aren't fitting together. The AEG trial, Wade, Paris suicide attempt...etc. :suspect:

I'm just not sure what to make of any of it. :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Starchild on August 04, 2013, 10:18:45 AM
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This article claims Murray will do the exploding of information on TV after his release from jail.

http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628 (http://www.contactmusic.com/story/conrad-murray-planning-tv-tell-all-on-jackson_3786628)


Michael Jackson - Conrad Murray planning TV tell-all on Jackson
by Bang Showbiz | 29 July 2013
Conrad Murray is reportedly threatening to reveal ''explosive'' secrets about Michael Jackson and his family on TV when he is released from prison in October.

Conrad Murray is threatening to reveal Michael Jackson's ''explosive'' secrets on TV.
The disgraced former doctor - who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after delivering a fatal dose of Propofol to the King of Pop in June 2009 - has reportedly been fielding multi-million dollar deals to-tell all about the late singer and his family when he is granted an early release from prison in October.
Murray has warned the 'Thriller' star's family that if they continue to push him ''to the limit'' by slating him in the press and in their wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoters AEG Live, he will not hesitate to dish the dirt on Michael's relatives - which he claims could ''tarnish'' their reputations.
In a statement obtained by the Daily Star newspaper, he said: ''Though I have encountered so much sorrow and I have a great deal of explosive information that is fodder for tarnishing images, I've remained loyal to Michael and to foes over the past four years.
''I will continue to be faithful and endure unless and until I'm pushed to the limit and endurance is no more.''
The jailed physician has angered Michael's family by refusing to aid his mother Katherine Jackson's $100 million lawsuit against AEG - who she claims is responsible for the star's death by negligently hiring Murray - and has insisted he won't give evidence in the trial.
Meanwhile, it was recently confirmed that Murray will receive early release from prison in October for good behaviour.
Murray - who lost his medical license when he was found guilty - was jailed in November 2011 and will leave prison having served just under half of his four-year sentence.

Contactmusic

Would be interesting to know the author's complete source for this article. If a partial source is Murray’s audio statement on TMZ, this article then serves as an example of how the media twists words and creates false truths, because if memory serves  :icon_question:, Murray’s audio did not include the boldface items above.                     

And how could Murray refuse to testify if subpoenaed?  He wouldn’t have been able to plead the Fifth Amendment regarding everything. In his audio statement (again, if I remember correctly), Murray did more in the way of suggesting threats as opposed to outright refusing to be questioned.

EDIT.
Here's that audio again:  http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/24/conrad-murray-aeg-jackson-wrongful-death-lawsuit-testify-warning/#ixzz2ZxnM8M43
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: wishingstar on August 04, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
For some reason this particular twist has been weighing heavy on me.  Here we have a doctor who has been
found guilty of giving a lethal dose propofol.  It's a drug that should only be used in a hospital setting, with equipment, etc.......
So the doctor saw no problem using this drug outside regulation, correct?  He went to jail for it.  He has stated time and time
again how much he cares for the Jackson family (I think I just threw up,lol).......yet, he failed to testify at his own trail...in order
to at least shed light on exactly what happened June 25th, in order to help the family understand...because he cares so much for them.
This is from the general public's point of view, btw.  His trial was aired on TV...the public saw that he didn't testify.  He publicly stated
by video, his thoughts and cares for the Jacksons.  So now.....we have him getting out of prison early, for good behavior? 
He is saying he'll plead the 5th during the AEG trial....I'd like to know how.  He needs to be in court to do that, I believe.  He has a right
to plead, but must appear in court, under oath to do so.  Then the question concerning profiting from his crime.  I think he's walking a very
thin line with this.  Son of Sam laws are in place in the US.  They are laws specifically designed to keep criminals from making money off
their crime....much of it by selling stories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Sam_law

So, Murray shooting his mouth off to press or whoever, must not break these laws....good luck with that one.  If he talks only about the
relationships of the family...he's liable for slander.  Of which the family would knock him down in a heartbeat.  If he mentions anything
related to June 25th, he's breaking the law.  So either way, he's barred from making the multi-millions that's being talked about. 

Of course, all of this is just conjecture on the part of the press.  They obviously have no clue of the truth of June 25th.  So it will be interesting to
see what comes of this Murray squawking.  I say, let the jailbird sing.....

Blessings Always
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Andrea on August 04, 2013, 01:16:23 PM

Murray's all talk with no substance both before and after he "went" to "jail".  Well, I shouldn't say no substance because there have definitely been times when he very much seems to be speaking MJ's words, both in his video statements and voicemails left on Harvey's hotline.  His "threats" have yet to come to fruition but I think he's ultimately referring to Michael coming back, hinting at something explosive happening after he gets out of the slammer.  Is he getting out "early" for good behaviour because my recollection is he's done nothing but complain and make demands since he's been there, lol.  But we've known about the October 28, 2013 date for quite a while now, since the trial ended basically.  I don't know what my point is here, just some random thoughts.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: wishingstar on August 04, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
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Murray's all talk with no substance both before and after he "went" to "jail".  Well, I shouldn't say no substance because there have definitely been times when he very much seems to be speaking MJ's words, both in his video statements and voicemails left on Harvey's hotline.  His "threats" have yet to come to fruition but I think he's ultimately referring to Michael coming back, hinting at something explosive happening after he gets out of the slammer.  Is he getting out "early" for good behaviour because my recollection is he's done nothing but complain and make demands since he's been there, lol.  But we've known about the October 28, 2013 date for quite a while now, since the trial ended basically.  I don't know what my point is here, just some random thoughts.

On the contrary, Andrea.....you make perfect points and perfect sense.......love it!
Yes, by Murray's actions I suppose many complaining prisoners ought to be out early, lol......for sure!
hugs to you!
LOVE
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: Andrea on August 04, 2013, 01:42:34 PM

LOL Wishy, thanks.  Hugs to you too! 

I just hope that Murray is hinting at what I want him to be hinting at, lol.  I'm ready for the truth here!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: blankie on August 04, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
Murray is a secial prisoner... :D :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: marumjj on August 04, 2013, 07:07:28 PM
Oh Murray! I like "Mark my words, I'll destroy you" I can not wait to find out your truth.  :abouttime:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 02, 2013, 06:00:38 AM
Going back to the nuclear shelter sign and due to we are nearing the CM nuclear warning declaration once released from jail, I will post these pics since I came across this movie yesterday which was released in 2010 and I think it's very telling:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kIcM6kSKhHE/TN24QtnsDfI/AAAAAAAAAsw/CUacas8MGgw/s1600/unstoppable_wp_04_1600.jpg)

(http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/unstoppable_image.jpg)

The train with number "777" Unstoppable like Michael and his hoax, lol.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: curls on October 02, 2013, 06:48:12 AM

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we are nearing the CM nuclear warning declaration once released from jail
I don't remember him saying he was going to drop his bombshell once he is released. Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray to Jackson family: "Mark my words, I'll destroy you"
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 02, 2013, 07:27:10 AM
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we are nearing the CM nuclear warning declaration once released from jail
I don't remember him saying he was going to drop his bombshell once he is released. Did I miss something?

You are right, my bad:

He's prepared to drop a nuclear bomb on the entire wrongful death lawsuit if he's forced to testify.

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