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Title: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 02, 2013, 03:39:22 AM
PARIS JACKSON
REJECTED
By Rehab Facility

Paris Jackson can't get a break ... her request to be transferred from UCLA Medical Center to a top out-of-state facility has been REJECTED, because the rehab place fears an onslaught of paparazzi.

Sources familiar with the situation tell TMZ ... UCLA docs will NOT let Paris return home, because they believe she is still a serious danger to herself -- they believe unless she gets more professional help she could end up killing herself.

We're told Paris' biological mom, Debbie Rowe, has researched adolescent facilities around the country and found one in Utah that would be perfect.  But our sources say the facility has turned thumbs down on the request, because honchos at the rehab place fear photogs will go crazy and take pictures of not only Paris but other patients at the facility.

We're told Rowe is not satisfied with the other options, so the search continues ... although we're told people connected with Paris are contacting the facility and asking for reconsideration.

In the meantime, our sources say Paris is stuck at UCLA, and she's in the wing that treats patients with eating disorders -- a problem Paris does not have.

Rowe is telling friends, "It's just a tragedy. This girl needs help."

http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/02/paris-jackson-rejected-rehab-facility-suicide-attempt-help-debbie-rowe/
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 02, 2013, 03:55:44 AM
Yeah right. Tiger Woods (American Golf legend) had to got to sex rehab for constantly cheating on his wife, over and over again.  He received WAY more coverage of his sexscapdes from the media than Paris did for the suicide attempt (which is sad).

He got admitted to a sex rehab facility no problem. To be honest, yes, the paparazzi did get a few photos of him at his rehab facility, but not any other patients. And Tiger Woods is a very very famous and a very wealthy man, but the Jackson are famous too and rich.

I can't fathom that a man who literally destroyed his family by recklessly cheating on his wife for years can get admitted to a sex rehab, but the daughter of the King of Pop, who allegedly tried to KILL herself, can't get the help she needs cause she's too famous. How can you put a price on a life?

So idk about this one..
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: charissa on July 02, 2013, 06:26:21 AM
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Yeah right. Tiger Woods (American Golf legend) had to got to sex rehab for constantly cheating on his wife, over and over again.  He received WAY more coverage of his sexscapdes from the media than Paris did for the suicide attempt (which is sad).

He got admitted to a sex rehab facility no problem. To be honest, yes, the paparazzi did get a few photos of him at his rehab facility, but not any other patients. And Tiger Woods is a very very famous and a very wealthy man, but the Jackson are famous too and rich.

I can't fathom that a man who literally destroyed his family by recklessly cheating on his wife for years can get admitted to a sex rehab, but the daughter of the King of Pop, who allegedly tried to KILL herself, can't get the help she needs cause she's too famous. How can you put a price on a life?

So idk about this one..

I not only can completely see a rehab for juveniles having concerns for their patients' privacy, but also having concerns about how a famous adolescent's arrival will affect the treatment of others, and therefor turning Paris away.

In any case, treating persons with eating disorders often involves dealing with issues such as self esteem, abuse, trauma, depression, etc., and I don't think such adjunct therapies will harm Paris. She may well benefit from these therapies until such a time as she can be placed in a more suitable program, one tailored to meet her specific needs.

In any case, it's good to see the doctors are saying, No!" to her going home. Too often, a patient is turned loose after the mandatory observation period without having had their psychiatric needs addressed.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 02, 2013, 07:43:30 AM
What im really trying to say with out sounding completely insensitive and cold hearted is that this article sounds like complete bs, IMO. The more tmz reports about this about this, with their inside sources and jackson exclusives, the more this is starting to sound like a farce. If Paris Jackson needed all the help in the world, that's exactly what she'll get. That's just my honest opinion.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 02, 2013, 09:57:27 AM
After a 72 involuntary hold, the state has no authority to retain her and she can go where she pleases. This whole thing is total BS.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: paula-c on July 02, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
Why Debbie Rowe it would appear that it is the who is in charge of Paris', and their legal guardians that are not mentioned :icon_question:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on July 02, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
Maybe thats a small part of this. For people to question who actually is raising PP&B. Ms. Katherine is 84 (i think) and TJ doesnt even live with them. He has his own wife and children he lives with. So who is taking the parental charge over them? Its pretty clear to me who's raising them...
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: iLoveyoumore on July 02, 2013, 01:30:44 PM
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Its pretty clear to me who's raising them...

Same here.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 02, 2013, 04:00:20 PM
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What im really trying to say with out sounding completely insensitive and cold hearted is that this article sounds like complete bs, IMO. The more tmz reports about this about this, with their inside sources and jackson exclusives, the more this is starting to sound like a farce. If Paris Jackson needed all the help in the world, that's exactly what she'll get. That's just my honest opinion.

I agree,

though what's striking in this story or even more ridiculous is that the rehab rejects a patient because it fears an onslaught of paparazzi. Aren't doctors supposed to treat every patient? Doctors shouldn't be selective on patients. That's just the point here. What's more important? The well being and the best care for the patient, no matter if it's a celebrity or not, what social status he/she has etc., OR the fear of being harassed by paparazzi or afraid that all the publicity will harm their reputation?
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: blankie on July 02, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
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What im really trying to say with out sounding completely insensitive and cold hearted is that this article sounds like complete bs, IMO. The more tmz reports about this about this, with their inside sources and jackson exclusives, the more this is starting to sound like a farce. If Paris Jackson needed all the help in the world, that's exactly what she'll get. That's just my honest opinion.

I agree,

though what's striking in this story or even more ridiculous is that the rehab rejects a patient because it fears an onslaught of paparazzi. Aren't doctors supposed to treat every patient? Doctors shouldn't be selective on patients. That's just the point here. What's more important? The well being and the best care for the patient, no matter if it's a celebrity or not, what social status he/she has etc., OR the fear of being harassed by paparazzi or afraid that all the publicity will harm their reputation?


Totally agree:  is absurd, impossible and incomprehensible the refusal of doctors to treat a patient....and all this talk about very private facts... mmmm....so had never happened  in these  years... waiting for... :suspect:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: MJonmind on July 02, 2013, 04:34:16 PM
I think she's with Dad. TMZ's got them covered while they're gone. Katherine, TJ, and Debbie keep everyone confused and running in circles. The game is called Piggy in the Middle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgXYFOjVkY[/youtube]
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: SimPattyK on July 03, 2013, 10:20:21 AM
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I think she's with Dad. TMZ's got them covered while they're gone. Katherine, TJ, and Debbie keep everyone confused and running in circles. The game is called Piggy in the Middle.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgXYFOjVkY[/youtube]
:thjajaja121:
You may be probably be right! and not even know it!  :icon_e_wink: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: jadz29858 on July 03, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
I have great concerns about this! Paris is crying out for help and as far as we know she is still in UCLA! and the place where Michael is reported that he had died! Is that a really good place for Paris to be!? 

Who has the right to refuse a person help when needed!

The rehab place has no right to refuse any one that is crying out for help! No matter who they are!

There had been times that Paris is Alone and needs her FATHER!

Paris was his princess! apple of his eye!

As Michael said MY CHILDREN ARE MY LIFE!

UNLESS PARIS IS WITH  HER FATHER! and they needed to take Paris out of  public EYE!

REASONS PARIS IS GIVING TOO MUCH OUT!
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: SimPattyK on July 03, 2013, 10:33:11 PM
From the very start I had that gut feeling that Paris is OK, always has been.
Michael has been with them this whole time, one way or another!!
Just as he found ways to be with us , I'm sure he got his methods to be there for/with his kids too! Most and foremost!!

I don't have any proof that Paris didn't attempt suicide [but who has any proof of anything!?]
But I still have this gut feeling that Paris is OK and most probably with her dad right now!
Of course I might be all wrong, but then who can blame me/us for not believing in any information coming from "a source close to the family"!??
NO piece of info regarding Paris suicide has ever been confirmed officially by a person with a real name!! everything we learned abt this story was always from news papers articles quoting "a source close to the family" loll  :suspect:
Why would I 100% believe that?? they even used the term ALLEGED in some of the headlines referring to the "suicide attempt", for God's sake! I mean it's so obvious something's not right about all this!  :icon_lol:

Even if there was indeed some issue with Paris, I'm sure it wasn't a suicide attempt! Maybe some unexpected turn of events, some changes of heart or something , family-misunderstandings so they had to put up a "Front-page" story in order to "save the situation" [cover up]  or maybe it is all just another hoax-episode all the way!!

This whole media frenzy... proves 1 more time how easy it is to believe in a "horrifying"/DRAMA story presented in the media ... IDK but it looked staged to me!

And now this new story about Paris being rejected By Rehab Facility...sounds so ridiculous and unreal!
And once again, WHO delivers the information?? NO name again!! it's "Sources familiar with the situation" !  :icon_rolleyes: I mean come on!! LOL  :icon_lol:

Even if let's say this suicide attempt was for real, then why NOBODY dares to mention any name in their articles if they are so eager to deliver all that info?? Are they coward or what? Are they afraid to say ok "My name is  Blabla Tamtam and I saw when Paris was rejected by the rehab officials" -  maybe then I will start to take the "news" on a more serious note! But until everything comes from ILLUSTRIOUS ANONYMOUS [  :icon_geek: ], I won't believe it.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: MJonmind on July 03, 2013, 10:55:28 PM
Is he looking at pics or the actual eyes of his kids when he said this today?

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Front ‏@frontback777 4h
I'll never stop looking
into your innocent eyes
that little glimpse of Heaven
sweetly immortalized ♥

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
the day you were born
angels painted my world
with colors of a rainbow
the hues of your soul
(cont)

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
For my children . . . .
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 04, 2013, 07:56:13 AM
I think they've always 'been' with dad...
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: gwynned on July 04, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
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What im really trying to say with out sounding completely insensitive and cold hearted is that this article sounds like complete bs, IMO. The more tmz reports about this about this, with their inside sources and jackson exclusives, the more this is starting to sound like a farce. If Paris Jackson needed all the help in the world, that's exactly what she'll get. That's just my honest opinion.

It's all getting more farcical by the moment.  Not unlike that ridiculous Snowden/Morales story. 

There should be NO QUESTION in anyone's mind that this story is complete fiction.  Either Michael is in charge and would NEVER allow such personal matters to be revealed and this is just BS OR Michael is really dead and, frankly, all hope is lost because the world is truly being run by a bunch of crazy people.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 04, 2013, 11:10:54 AM
Word.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 04, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
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Is he looking at pics or the actual eyes of his kids when he said this today?

Quote
Front ‏@frontback777 4h
I'll never stop looking
into your innocent eyes
that little glimpse of Heaven
sweetly immortalized ♥

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
the day you were born
angels painted my world
with colors of a rainbow
the hues of your soul
(cont)

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
For my children . . . .

I've been thinking about that too.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: suspicious mind on July 04, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
perhaps the front might simply be in possession of some of his things :-\
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 05, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
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Is he looking at pics or the actual eyes of his kids when he said this today?

Quote
Front ‏@frontback777 4h
I'll never stop looking
into your innocent eyes
that little glimpse of Heaven
sweetly immortalized ♥

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
the day you were born
angels painted my world
with colors of a rainbow
the hues of your soul
(cont)

 Front ‏@frontback777 4h
For my children . . . .

I've been thinking about that too.


This Front/TS/whoever else is has been playing Michael here and all were buying it. Now he/she left this site moved to tweeter knowing that membs here monitor twitter and will buy  false messages as those are from Michael. And it sadly works. 
So, what really you all very much believe in?  Michael is alive but left  kids  thinking he is dead and lets them suffer, or he is with kids and Paris is fine is with dad in Bahrain,but Prince talks about MJ as dead victim under oath in court so they can win billions from AEG and then Michael will return  and say how cool  was my prank? 
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: marumjj on July 05, 2013, 04:40:16 AM
scorpionchik
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Prince talks about MJ as dead victim under oath in court so they can win billions from AEG and then Michael will return  and say how cool  was my prank?

I also thought about this, if this trial is real (we lost the ability to recognize reality?) and AEG have to pay to Jackson, is not illegal or crime? if this is so, I think MJ will have to stay in hiding forever.
On the other hand, I think the intention of this trial is to expose the bad guys, not the money...IDK
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: gwynned on July 05, 2013, 08:56:57 AM
If this trial were real, the defense attorneys would have rejected routinely the 'testimony' of Michael's children as completely irrelevant to the case at hand. 
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 05, 2013, 09:40:17 AM
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So, what really you all very much believe in?  Michael is alive but left  kids  thinking he is dead and lets them suffer, or he is with kids and Paris is fine is with dad in Bahrain,but Prince talks about MJ as dead victim under oath in court so they can win billions from AEG and then Michael will return  and say how cool  was my prank?

Precisely. Which is why based on my deductions, the trial is a farce.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: SimPattyK on July 05, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
IMO,
AEG Trial +Paris "suicide" attempt =  BAIT for MJ's real enemies to get them out of their snake-nests and expose themselves! --> either through money-greed or through their tabloid gossip!

When the time is right, Michael will show up up and say:
See? If I was really dead, these people and these people would have continued to talk shit about me and my family, just like they did while I was still alive, just as they did when they framed me with the 2 molestation trials.
I faked my death to prove my innocence and to make my enemies come out in full light! thing that was impossible otherwise! I have received death threats, I have been pushed to my limits by a bunch of greedy and hating people who almost got me in jail just to prove to me that they can! or to make big money out of that circus!


^^
Just me... imagining Michael's speech when he BAMs!
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 05, 2013, 07:30:09 PM
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If this trial were real, the defense attorneys would have rejected routinely the 'testimony' of Michael's children as completely irrelevant to the case at hand.

wrong
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 05, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
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scorpionchik
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Prince talks about MJ as dead victim under oath in court so they can win billions from AEG and then Michael will return  and say how cool  was my prank?

I also thought about this, if this trial is real (we lost the ability to recognize reality?) and AEG have to pay to Jackson, is not illegal or crime? if this is so, I think MJ will have to stay in hiding forever.
On the other hand, I think the intention of this trial is to expose the bad guys, not the money...IDK

if this trial is to expose bad guys, then Michael  should come out before jury deliberation starts.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 05, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
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So, what really you all very much believe in?  Michael is alive but left  kids  thinking he is dead and lets them suffer, or he is with kids and Paris is fine is with dad in Bahrain,but Prince talks about MJ as dead victim under oath in court so they can win billions from AEG and then Michael will return  and say how cool  was my prank?

Precisely. Which is why based on my deductions, the trial is a farce.

despite how painful it  may sound all trials including this one are real. Farce is not a fact but only justification/expression of your belief
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: curls on July 06, 2013, 02:49:08 AM
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despite how painful it  may sound all trials including this one are real.

'Real' in the sense that something is happening in that LA courtroom, yes, just as actors, acting out a courtroom drama for a movie, are also 'really' in a courtroom. But that doesn't mean proceedings are based on reality, on 'fact' - if they were, in this case, then MJ would be dead. End of story. But when all the evidence leads to him being alive, then I have to come to the conclusion that all is not as it seems in that courtroom. Nothing else makes sense.

So, scorpion, do you think MJ is dead?  If not, can you explain the current court case?
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 06, 2013, 11:09:08 AM
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despite how painful it  may sound all trials including this one are real.

'Real' in the sense that something is happening in that LA courtroom, yes, just as actors, acting out a courtroom drama for a movie, are also 'really' in a courtroom. But that doesn't mean proceedings are based on reality, on 'fact' - if they were, in this case, then MJ would be dead. End of story. But when all the evidence leads to him being alive, then I have to come to the conclusion that all is not as it seems in that courtroom. Nothing else makes sense.

So, scorpion, do you think MJ is dead?  If not, can you explain the current court case?

Again, precisely. Scorpianchick is just trying to cling to her crumbling theory of attempted murder scenario.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: suspicious mind on July 06, 2013, 08:11:57 PM
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despite how painful it  may sound all trials including this one are real.

'Real' in the sense that something is happening in that LA courtroom, yes, just as actors, acting out a courtroom drama for a movie, are also 'really' in a courtroom. But that doesn't mean proceedings are based on reality, on 'fact' - if they were, in this case, then MJ would be dead. End of story. But when all the evidence leads to him being alive, then I have to come to the conclusion that all is not as it seems in that courtroom. Nothing else makes sense.

So, scorpion, do you think MJ is dead?  If not, can you explain the current court case?

Again, precisely. Scorpianchick is just trying to cling to her crumbling theory of attempted murder scenario.

oh thank the Lord i was getting worried that chic had gone deader on us. :-[
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 07, 2013, 02:08:47 AM
 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: WhatKindofLove on July 07, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
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Hi Scorptionchick, I don't know if you have ever seen this YT channel, but I talk to this Lady every now and again and she is really sweet and she goes down to the movie set and listens to all the actor witnesses, and she has quite a few videos from when she started going.  This is her last one.  She started a new job and doesn't get to go as often as she did in the beginning.  I hope Michael doesn't go broke paying all these City officials and Police officers to go along with the circus before the "Movie" is completed and hits the Box Office.  Of course I don't know why he didn't have his Agents promote the Doc's movie, he could have been rolling in the dough by now.

Here is the Link  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkD-cFd6lMg&feature=share&list=UUFv0h5Y1bVVj8ROVstiJi5A

Remember, life is a stage and we are all actors, and if anything bad happens along the way as with Michael, I'm sure it's all an illusion. Heck I don't even think we are really here, we are just part of Michael's imgination.   :suspect:  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: MJonmind on July 08, 2013, 01:55:54 AM
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@frontback777 2h
Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
\

Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: suspicious mind on July 08, 2013, 11:28:58 AM
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:icon_lol:

Hi Scorptionchick, I don't know if you have ever seen this YT channel, but I talk to this Lady every now and again and she is really sweet and she goes down to the movie set and listens to all the actor witnesses, and she has quite a few videos from when she started going.  This is her last one.  She started a new job and doesn't get to go as often as she did in the beginning.  I hope Michael doesn't go broke paying all these City officials and Police officers to go along with the circus before the "Movie" is completed and hits the Box Office.  Of course I don't know why he didn't have his Agents promote the Doc's movie, he could have been rolling in the dough by now.

Here is the Link  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkD-cFd6lMg&feature=share&list=UUFv0h5Y1bVVj8ROVstiJi5A

Remember, life is a stage and we are all actors, and if anything bad happens along the way as with Michael, I'm sure it's all an illusion. Heck I don't even think we are really here, we are just part of Michael's imgination.   :suspect:  :icon_lol:

ah hell i am soooooooooo :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 08, 2013, 01:17:11 PM
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@frontback777 2h
Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
\

Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

I called Ronald Reagan UCLA (patient information) and asked where could I send some flowers to Paris Jackson (I never said she was MJ's daughter and the operator seemed not to know who Paris Jackson was and she told me she wasn't listed there. I decided to go there in person and asked at the information desk (different person than telephone operator) and she told me Paris Jackson wasn't there, what leads me to think that Paris' story about suicide bid is fake unless she was there under an alias.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: Faithad777 on July 08, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Sweet, the hospital most likely has strict orders not to give out any info. regarding Paris to anyone.  It's not like they're going to give out info. like that to anyone who asks.   They could find themselves out of a job very quickly.  I'm not saying I know for sure whether Paris is there or not, because I don't.  Probably anyone who wants any info. about her has to go through the proper channels first.  May be you can pretend to be Pearl Jr. and try to get info. that way?????? 
Just kidding........... :bearhug:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 08, 2013, 04:47:54 PM
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Sweet, the hospital most likely has strict orders not to give out any info. regarding Paris to anyone.  It's not like they're going to give out info. like that to anyone who asks.   They could find themselves out of a job very quickly.  I'm not saying I know for sure whether Paris is there or not, because I don't.  Probably anyone who wants any info. about her has to go through the proper channels first.  May be you can pretend to be Pearl Jr. and try to get info. that way?????? 
Just kidding........... :bearhug:

Yes I know what you mean and I of course thought of that but I still think there is a big possibility that Paris is not in the hospital what comforts me big time.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: blankie on July 08, 2013, 06:32:26 PM
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@frontback777 2h
Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
\

Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

I called Ronald Reagan UCLA (patient information) and asked where could I send some flowers to Paris Jackson (I never said she was MJ's daughter and the operator seemed not to know who Paris Jackson was and she told me she wasn't listed there. I decided to go there in person and asked at the information desk (different person than telephone operator) and she told me Paris Jackson wasn't there, what leads me to think that Paris' story about suicide bid is fake unless she was there under an alias.


(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/G_04BI%7E1.GIF)

Thanks sweet !!
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: charissa on July 09, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
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Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
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Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

I called Ronald Reagan UCLA (patient information) and asked where could I send some flowers to Paris Jackson (I never said she was MJ's daughter and the operator seemed not to know who Paris Jackson was and she told me she wasn't listed there. I decided to go there in person and asked at the information desk (different person than telephone operator) and she told me Paris Jackson wasn't there, what leads me to think that Paris' story about suicide bid is fake unless she was there under an alias.

That doesn't mean she is or isn't there. HIPPA prevents the hospital staff from revealing ANY patient info at all. I'm sure with a high profile patient, they would be extra careful. She's probably under an assumed name as well.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: charissa on July 09, 2013, 12:18:52 PM
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After a 72 involuntary hold, the state has no authority to retain her and she can go where she pleases. This whole thing is total BS.

Not true, bec.

Under California Welfare & Institutions Code, a 5150 only allows a 72 hour hold. A 5250 is for an additional 14 days, provided a judge signs off on it during a 5256 (Certification hearing) within four days of it being written. There is no limit on how many times a doc can 5250 a patient. Paris, even though she's a minor, would be held to the same criterion as an adult. 
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 09, 2013, 12:32:14 PM
Oh, interesting. Seems CA has very progressive mental health laws. Thanks for the info, charissa.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: suspicious mind on July 09, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
why wouldn't they just say sorry i am not able to give out that information,  period ?
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: bec on July 10, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
Because that would be confirming that she is indeed in the building, encouraging stalkers to beg for info or perhaps try n find her themselves.

Also, I suppose it's possible Paris Jackson isn't even her real name.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: scorpionchik on July 10, 2013, 12:18:10 AM
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Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
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Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

I called Ronald Reagan UCLA (patient information) and asked where could I send some flowers to Paris Jackson (I never said she was MJ's daughter and the operator seemed not to know who Paris Jackson was and she told me she wasn't listed there. I decided to go there in person and asked at the information desk (different person than telephone operator) and she told me Paris Jackson wasn't there, what leads me to think that Paris' story about suicide bid is fake unless she was there under an alias.

you forgot you were in Hollywood. that wasn't operator talking to you but actor acting in another Jackson related movie. In La, where ever you go, you end up in Hollywood where everyone is actor on the big California stage. Are you sure you were in LAX and getting in real airplane?  just kidding :icon_lol:
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: charissa on July 10, 2013, 12:24:59 AM
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why wouldn't they just say sorry i am not able to give out that information,  period ?

In a sense, that would be confirming her as a patient. IF she is there, I guarantee she's registered under a pseudonym which can be common for even us regular folks (at our respective medical facilities).  My doc's office takes HIPPA so seriously, I have to go through an interrogation just to confirm an appointment. In our local regional hospital admissions procedures, patients are asked if they would like an alternate identity to prevent people from discovering they are hospitalized.

Bec, California  is one of the few states to tackle the issue of mental health head on. Some of their models are admirable. They are indeed progressive.

Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: charissa on July 10, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
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Controversy is M.A.G.I.C. ,,wait for it............. ;-)
\

Now included in this 'Controversy' could be many events we have questioned-- Paris' suicide attempt, Wade's accusation, etc.
Controversies get people talking, thinking,  emotional, taking sides, and gets people thinking outside the box.

I called Ronald Reagan UCLA (patient information) and asked where could I send some flowers to Paris Jackson (I never said she was MJ's daughter and the operator seemed not to know who Paris Jackson was and she told me she wasn't listed there. I decided to go there in person and asked at the information desk (different person than telephone operator) and she told me Paris Jackson wasn't there, what leads me to think that Paris' story about suicide bid is fake unless she was there under an alias.

you forgot you were in Hollywood. that wasn't operator talking to you but actor acting in another Jackson related movie. In La, where ever you go, you end up in Hollywood where everyone is actor on the big California stage. Are you sure you were in LAX and getting in real airplane?  just kidding :icon_lol:

I WAS just in LA, but had to head on to Santa Ana. Flew in on the 2nd, left on the 7th. If I'd have had time, I would've snooped around. The thought briefly crossed my mind a couple of times, but unfortunately, the nature of my trip didn't leave me much personal leisure time. Now, if I can get assigned to or pick up an account or client out there, I may be able to fly out again. It'd be cool to just physically get my hands on some  publicly available legal docs and such.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 10, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
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why wouldn't they just say sorry i am not able to give out that information,  period ?

Exactly because in other places I was asking they just told me sorry I can't give you that information however the 2 ladies specially the one on the information desk at the UCLA hospital seemed not to know who I was talking about cause she made me spell her name twice.
Title: Re: PARIS JACKSON REJECTED By Rehab Facility
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 12, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
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Also, I suppose it's possible Paris Jackson isn't even her real name.
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