Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up => Topic started by: charlottevet on June 03, 2013, 01:38:22 AM
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not sure how credible he is, though thuis guy claims to print things other press wont touch.
http://derekclontz.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-death-hoax-diary-found-final-proofm-hes-still-alive/
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POP WARBLER Michael Jackson kept an astonishing “death-hoax diary” explaining how he would fake his death of a heart attack and telling when he would come out of hiding, a family friend who claims to have found the journal “among Michael’s personal effects” tells derekclontz.com exclusively.
ALIVE - OR NOT? You be the judge.
“There’s too much pressure, pressure, pressure … pressure everywhere I turn …” a diary entry dated Nov. 17, 2008 is alleged to say in part.
“I don’t know who I am, not anmore (sp). Maybe I’m just a father to my children. Maybe I’m washed up.
“The drugs are (illegible) a toll … (illegible) … I’m not addict. But I can’t stop …
“If Elvis … (illegible) … so can I.
“I’ll have a ‘heart attack’ from drugs like he did (yeah, right!)
“I’ll come back, but only when I’m ready. Bigger than Elvis in ’69.
“Maybe 2009 at Christmas. Or maybe the New Year is better.
“A back-from-dead tour, a real Thriller. But I have to rest. I’m tired. I’m not (thinking) clearly.
“It’s the drugs.
“A lot of fans still love me. (Some) people hate me. Thing (sp) will be different (after this) …”
Jackson insiders declined to comment – officially – on the report. But as one privately put it, “We love Michael no matter what.”
The friend who leaked portions of the diary also was tight lipped, saying only, “There are over 60 pages (of it) that I will release to the family through my lawyer and they can do what they want with it. It doesn’t belong to me. It belongs to Michael and his loved ones.”
Other sources confirm that Jackson, 50, had spoken of a death hoax “on several occasions” in 2008 and also in 2009, although the reported discovery of the diary that outlines his plans seemed to come as a surprise to everyone contacted by derekclontz.com.
A paint-by-numbers account of a death hoax, in the superstar’s own handwriting, could lead to serious legal problems, say legal observers, especially if the journal is perceived by insurance companies and the authorities to be a blueprint for fraud.
“I hope to God the diary is legit,” said a Jackson confidante who requested anonymity. “If Michael really is alive, if he orchestrated all this, if he faked his own death, then nobody will be happier than me. As for fraud – nope, no way.
“Michael wouldn’t commit fraud. He’s not trying to collect insurance. He’s protecting himself. He’s doing this for his children. I’ll guarantee it.”
News of Jackson’s “death” on June 25 stunned the world. In fact, within hours of the ann0uncement by authorities, fans had already begun to speculate that he was still alive and had gone into hiding. Subsequent reports suggested that he was, indeed, perpetrating a hoax to escape the pressures of life in the public eye.
Scooping the world, derekclontz.com reported Jackson had been spirited to Asheville, North Carolina and then to Eastern Europe, where it is thought that he might be holed up in Hungary, or even in Russia, where hundreds of people claim to have spotted him in Moscow.
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
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This is a really old article, one I read back in my early days of considering the possibility of MJ being alive. It served a purpose and sowed some seeds. Gotta love it!
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
what do you think of Pearl Jr??
Personally, i thought she was ok to start with but now most of what she says is bull/ not in the slightest bit relevant or interesting with regards to his death.
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Totally agree!!
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This is a really old article, one I read back in my early days of considering the possibility of MJ being alive. It served a purpose and sowed some seeds. Gotta love it!
Exactly, same here. Whether DC's site was credible or not, it served a purpose. It also introduced the MJ/Elvis parallels very early on in the hoax.
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
what do you think of Pearl Jr??
Personally, i thought she was ok to start with but now most of what she says is bull/ not in the slightest bit relevant or interesting with regards to his death.
Don't forget she thinks that everything is about her in this hoax. Like her B-day for example...
Total BS if you ask me! And - indeed - She's trying to sell her stuff. Just a moneygrabber.
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
what do you think of Pearl Jr??
Personally, i thought she was ok to start with but now most of what she says is bull/ not in the slightest bit relevant or interesting with regards to his death.
Don't forget she thinks that everything is about her in this hoax. Like her B-day for example...
Total BS if you ask me! And - indeed - She's trying to sell her stuff. Just a moneygrabber.
TBH I think she's totally off her chuff..... She loves to talk and listen to the sound of her own voice, and seems to have some sort of obsession with herself, think that somehow she's some sort of messiah to the MJDH.... If im totally honest she disturbs me a little....
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100% agreed!
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Pearl is all about making $...nothing else IMO. The things she hypes are ridiculous and extraordinarily self-centered. She claims to be all about Michael but not too many years ago (while promoting another project of hers) ranted on in an interview about how she'd never respect or support a black man who had white wives/girlfriends. One can only assume that she made an exception because there's money to be made on ANYTHING Michael...and/or...she's nothing more that a glorified fangirl with a huge crush and trying to get his attention...lol. I do watch her vids sometimes for amusement...that's of course after muting the intro because it grates on my nerves in a huge way. They are usually good for a laugh or two at what she thinks is relevant...oh and of course how it ALWAYS ties to her personally. SMDH
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Pearl is all about making $...nothing else IMO. The things she hypes are ridiculous and extraordinarily self-centered. She claims to be all about Michael but not too many years ago (while promoting another project of hers) ranted on in an interview about how she'd never respect or support a black man who had white wives/girlfriends. One can only assume that she made an exception because there's money to be made on ANYTHING Michael...and/or...she's nothing more that a glorified fangirl with a huge crush and trying to get his attention...lol. I do watch her vids sometimes for amusement...that's of course after muting the intro because it grates on my nerves in a huge way. They are usually good for a laugh or two at what she thinks is relevant...oh and of course how it ALWAYS ties to her personally. SMDH
OMG I do that too, that blooming intro music.... i makes me want to slap her silly face haha sorry im being aggressive...... >:(
I just wish people could look at things without such self interest and self importance. I think she (and a lot of other people) need to realize that the world does not revolve around themselves - there are billions of others out there....
In addition.... I doubt MJ sat down and thought "wow that crazy ass stalker fan Pearl is the one I want to lead people to the answers of the hoax.... I better make sure I aim clues at her!!" More like "oh dear Lord.... it's that woman again..... RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!" :screaming-7365:
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Pearl is all about making $...nothing else IMO. The things she hypes are ridiculous and extraordinarily self-centered. She claims to be all about Michael but not too many years ago (while promoting another project of hers) ranted on in an interview about how she'd never respect or support a black man who had white wives/girlfriends. One can only assume that she made an exception because there's money to be made on ANYTHING Michael...and/or...she's nothing more that a glorified fangirl with a huge crush and trying to get his attention...lol. I do watch her vids sometimes for amusement...that's of course after muting the intro because it grates on my nerves in a huge way. They are usually good for a laugh or two at what she thinks is relevant...oh and of course how it ALWAYS ties to her personally. SMDH
OMG I do that too, that blooming intro music.... i makes me want to slap her silly face haha sorry im being aggressive...... >:(
I just wish people could look at things without such self interest and self importance. I think she (and a lot of other people) need to realize that the world does not revolve around themselves - there are billions of others out there....
In addition.... I doubt MJ sat down and thought "wow that crazy ass stalker fan Pearl is the one I want to lead people to the answers of the hoax.... I better make sure I aim clues at her!!" More like "oh dear Lord.... it's that woman again..... RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!" :screaming-7365:
This makes me laugh and be sad at the same time.
Laugh because of what Charlotte just said at the end of her post, =)) [lol @ Run for the hills!] and sad because so many MJ fans are tricked into paying attention to this woman, whose only interest is gaining $$$ and publicity. It's not my intention to judge, but we here are trying to at least see both sides of every story, weigh in every possibility before stating something as being 100% real, whereas people who follow her are like hypnotized, they blindly believe anything she would say, and she keeps on doing that because she sees it's working and it has the effect she's been wanting to. Just because she smiles, winks all the time and says "keep Michaeling", that doesn't make her neither true nor honest...
And I couldn't agree more with what you said!
For long time I've kept wondering if she was somehow a part of the hoax, like an insider...but as the time passes, I'm more convinced it's the exact opposite...
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This makes me laugh and be sad at the same time.
Laugh because of what Charlotte just said at the end of her post, =)) [lol @ Run for the hills!] and sad because so many MJ fans are tricked into paying attention to this woman, whose only interest is gaining $$$ and publicity. It's not my intention to judge, but we here are trying to at least see both sides of every story, weigh in every possibility before stating something as being 100% real, whereas people who follow her are like hypnotized, they blindly believe anything she would say, and she keeps on doing that because she sees it's working and it has the effect she's been wanting to. Just because she smiles, winks all the time and says "keep Michaeling", that doesn't make her neither true nor honest...
And I couldn't agree more with what you said!
For long time I've kept wondering if she was somehow a part of the hoax, like an insider...but as the time passes, I'm more convinced it's the exact opposite...
I understand and agree with your reluctance to be judgmental since it's something that we all should refrain from. I personally don't think it's being judgmental though if one is merely stating the obvious. :icon_e_wink: If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck...then it's obviously a damn duck...LOL. Pearl is just another in an unfortunately very long line of quackery. I just keep hoping that people will tire of constantly hearing her toot her own horn...especially when very, very little of what she "shares" these days apparently comes from her own efforts.
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Wink Wink....Nod Nod
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LOL... I agree with you all. :icon_lol:
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This is a really old article, one I read back in my early days of considering the possibility of MJ being alive. It served a purpose and sowed some seeds. Gotta love it!
yes, me too :icon_bounce:
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LOL... I agree with you all. :icon_lol:
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Also don't you love how she acts like she communicates (personally) with Michael on a daily basis. I even heard her say in a chat of hers that Michael wanted to date her and father children with her. LOL
I cannot believe anyone believes this BS.
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I think I should rename this thread "Pearl Jr slagging off shesh, come one come all!"
She's a very.... special..... sort of person that's for sure.
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LOL... I agree with you all. :icon_lol:
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Also don't you love how she acts like she communicates (personally) with Michael on a daily basis. I even heard her say in a chat of hers that Michael wanted to date her and father children with her. LOL
I cannot believe anyone believes this BS.
Wow...now that one I hadn't heard. :thjajaja121: I knew about the alleged numerous phone calls with PPPYT but hadn't heard the "Michael wants me" part. Sad really (if it wasn't so damn funny).
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I remember this...didn't that Cassandra (can't remember what her name was) chick say she was writing a book as she was in contact with MJ all the way through?...lol
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I remember this...didn't that Cassandra (can't remember what her name was) chick say she was writing a book as she was in contact with MJ all the way through?...lol
Gosh, somehow....and im not quite sure why... MJ managed to make a whole load of nut bags surface!
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You all can trash on Pearl all you want but it's one or the other. Either she is playing a role-- in which case she's working for MJ... -or- she is working independently-- in which case she discovered hoax info on her own-- in which case she saw things that the rest of the media does not see/or refuses to see-- which counts for something in my book.
No matter which of the above is true, I do not understand why is thought that she deserves so much hate talk. She supported MJ in 2005 and if she's for real (actually either way, real or staged), continues to support him today.
Who cares what her personal beliefs are. They're her's. She's entitled to an opinion same as us all.
MJ's making a lot of money off this hoax, you know. Is it only ok for MJ to make money? anyone else who makes money is evil? Don't you all receive a paycheck periodically from your vocation? Pearl is a journalist, this is her trade. Should she not perform her trade? Everyone got to make money to live.
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You all can trash on Pearl all you want but it's one or the other. Either she is playing a role-- in which case she's working for MJ... -or- she is working independently-- in which case she discovered hoax info on her own-- in which case she saw things that the rest of the media does not see/or refuses to see-- which counts for something in my book.
No matter which of the above is true, I do not understand why is thought that she deserves so much hate talk. She supported MJ in 2005 and if she's for real (actually either way, real or staged), continues to support him today.
Who cares what her personal beliefs are. They're her's. She's entitled to an opinion same as us all.
MJ's making a lot of money off this hoax, you know. Is it only ok for MJ to make money? anyone else who makes money is evil? Don't you all receive a paycheck periodically from your vocation? Pearl is a journalist, this is her trade. Should she not perform her trade? Everyone got to make money to live.
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You all can trash on Pearl all you want but it's one or the other. Either she is playing a role-- in which case she's working for MJ... -or- she is working independently-- in which case she discovered hoax info on her own-- in which case she saw things that the rest of the media does not see/or refuses to see-- which counts for something in my book.
No matter which of the above is true, I do not understand why is thought that she deserves so much hate talk. She supported MJ in 2005 and if she's for real (actually either way, real or staged), continues to support him today.
Who cares what her personal beliefs are. They're her's. She's entitled to an opinion same as us all.
MJ's making a lot of money off this hoax, you know. Is it only ok for MJ to make money? anyone else who makes money is evil? Don't you all receive a paycheck periodically from your vocation? Pearl is a journalist, this is her trade. Should she not perform her trade? Everyone got to make money to live.
Bec thanks for your words because I didn't dare to say a single word about it due to I was afraid to be trashed, all you have said it's the true she is supporting Michael from 2005 and that's what should really matter, I am following her from the beginning and I never spent a single cent in buying any of her e-books, she is making vids for free and very interesting tiny chats, denying this kind of info it's not a clever way if you all are interested in catch everything regarding the hoax, she has connected many dots that any of us did notice so just take it as additional information and do not focus on the money she could win (that I am sure it's not that much) because it is legitimate since she is a reporter, btw she is from time to time visiting the courtroom and is bringing us some interesting info.
Please guys I enjoy sharing my time with you but I sometimes find it hard when there is kinda bashing on people the way you're doing it here right now, I am sure Michael wouldn't like it, we should be elegant and we should respect others, we are not the owners of the whole truth.
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You all can trash on Pearl all you want but it's one or the other. Either she is playing a role-- in which case she's working for MJ... -or- she is working independently-- in which case she discovered hoax info on her own-- in which case she saw things that the rest of the media does not see/or refuses to see-- which counts for something in my book.
No matter which of the above is true, I do not understand why is thought that she deserves so much hate talk. She supported MJ in 2005 and if she's for real (actually either way, real or staged), continues to support him today.
Who cares what her personal beliefs are. They're her's. She's entitled to an opinion same as us all.
MJ's making a lot of money off this hoax, you know. Is it only ok for MJ to make money? anyone else who makes money is evil? Don't you all receive a paycheck periodically from your vocation? Pearl is a journalist, this is her trade. Should she not perform her trade? Everyone got to make money to live.
Bec thanks for your words because I didn't dare to say a single word about it due to I was afraid to be trashed, all you have said it's the true she is supporting Michael from 2005 and that's what should really matter, I am following her from the beginning and I never spent a single cent in buying any of her e-books, she is making vids for free and very interesting tiny chats, denying this kind of info it's not a clever way if you all are interested in catch everything regarding the hoax, she has connected many dots that any of us did notice so just take it as additional information and do not focus on the money she could win (that I am sure it's not that much) because it is legitimate since she is a reporter, btw she is from time to time visiting the courtroom and is bringing us some interesting info.
Please guys I enjoy sharing my time with you but I sometimes find it hard when there is kinda bashing on people the way you're doing it here right now, I am sure Michael wouldn't like it, we should be elegant and we should respect others, we are not the owners of the whole truth.
Thanks for the replys :icon_e_smile:
It's good to hear everyone's point of view!
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......... we are not the owners of the whole truth.
Well that's certainly the truth!
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......... we are not the owners of the whole truth.
Well that's certainly the truth!
Amen.
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Thanks guys I knew you were amazing!!
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Thanks guys I knew you were amazing!!
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Some of her videos do have some useful tips and info in! No denying
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
I've read that blog several times, left a comment months ago for derek, no response on what he thought........cassandra disappeared from twitter sometime ago........is she real? no one seems to know...........
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Every one is trying to benefit from the hoax. Claiming that MJ is alive would draw the public's attention to the author and books will be written about this subject. Another Pearl Jr??
I've read that blog several times, left a comment months ago for derek, no response on what he thought........cassandra disappeared from twitter sometime ago........is she real? no one seems to know...........
I always thought there must be a way to leak all those clues we have been given, the only way Michael has to communicate with us is through the internet so it wouldn't be far fetched if he used some alias to leak us all that info the same way some vids were leaked right after his "death" such as the one of the Pepsi burn, so once the purpose is served no need for that blog to continue on line I could be wrong but it's the way I see it, who else but Michael could know about the whole hoax, nobody else IMO.
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curls:
This is a really old article, one I read back in my early days of considering the possibility of MJ being alive. It served a purpose and sowed some seeds. Gotta love it!
Exactly, same here. Whether DC's site was credible or not, it served a purpose. It also introduced the MJ/Elvis parallels very early on in the hoax.
I think the same !!
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you might be right about that, but derek is a real person, I looked him up......anyway, that blog was from 7/7/09 so no one is really writing about the diary anymore......I guess I'm just curious about who cassandra was.........
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you might be right about that, but derek is a real person, I looked him up......anyway, that blog was from 7/7/09 so no one is really writing about the diary anymore......I guess I'm just curious about who cassandra was.........
Who is this Cassandra you all mention (im still a baby MJDH person and know not of her yet!)