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Title: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 21, 2013, 07:47:01 PM
Another strange death in the wake of June 25, 2009

Jack Wishna Found Dead In Las Vegas
http://www.inquisitr.com/416355/jack-wishna-found-dead-in-las-vegas/#yqO81C7Ubx3jqgps.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/416355/jack-wishna-found-dead-in-las-vegas/#yqO81C7Ubx3jqgps.99) Posted: November 28, 2012

Jack Wishna, a man known for making connections in Las Vegas, was found dead today at his home in Sin City.


According to the Denver Post, police have determined that Wishna committed suicide in the garage of his Las Vegas home. Clark County Coroner Michael Murphy said Wednesday that Wishna died of carbon monoxide intoxication. He was 54-years-old. He is survived by his wife Donna.

Wishna was known as a deal maker in Las Vegas. He was partly responsible for bringing Wayne Newton, Donald Trump, and Michael Jackson to Las Vegas. He also consulted or worked with blockbuster music acts like Brittany Spears, Madonna and Michael Flatley.

Wayne Newton said in a statement:

“It comes as a tremendous surprise. Jack and Donna have been longtime friends. Our thoughts and prayers are with Donna during this time of great loss. Jack will be missed.”

According to Mercury News, Wishna helped orchestrate the multi-million dollar deal that brought Wayne Newton to the Stardust Casino. He introduced Donald Trump to Treasure Island owner Phil Ruffin. The two would build the Trump International Tower together in Las Vegas in 2008. He also tried to persuade Michael Jackson to become a permanent fixture in Las Vegas much like Wayne Newton.

After the singer’s death, Wishna established a Michael Jackson-themed Cirque du Soleil show.

Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: MaryK on March 21, 2013, 08:52:23 PM
Thanks for posting!

I just recently read this interesting blog about MJ and Wishna.

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/michael-jackson-and-jack-wishna-in-2007/ (http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/michael-jackson-and-jack-wishna-in-2007/)

I found this part interesting:

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At some point of his life in Las Vegas Michael was seen in a wheelchair which could easily be a case of a lupus flair that erupted due to all this stress. Though people mocked at his behavior as ‘antics’ I doubt very much that a wheelchair was actually Michael’s voluntary choice. What it surely created was much negative publicity and it was due to this publicity and Michael’s quickly worsening state that Jack Wishna dropped his initial plans and suggested to Michael other projects which would not involve the necessity for him to perform.

One of them was the Cirque du Soleil project.

Yes, now we find out that this project was Jack Wishna’s idea, only at that time it was supposed to be an anthem of the Beatles. Preliminary meetings with the Cirque du Soleil management did take place, but the plans were never realized as at this point Wishna said that Michael was “wooed” by AEG Live.

“Woo” means “to seek the affection of with intent to romance, to tempt or invite, entreat, solicit, or importune”, and after seeing this type of courtship Wishna had to step aside.

So apparently Wishna suggested a Cirque show to Michael before his "death".
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: Faithad777 on March 21, 2013, 09:12:26 PM
Hes, I read about Jack Wishna when the news first came out, but I don't remember discussing it here.  Does anyone else see a pattern here?  The people who have worked with Michael, who are high up the corporate ladder, and want to protect Michael are the ones who are dying mysteriously under the disguise of suicide.  Are these people also hoaxing their deaths, and all these hoaxers are hiding out somewhere away from the bad guys? or are they being killed as a cover up for the acts of the bigger fish, the vultures???  What is going on here????
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: RK on March 21, 2013, 10:00:52 PM
We talked a little about this on hoaxbook  when it happened.
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: suspicious mind on March 22, 2013, 09:03:07 AM
Thanks for posting!

I just recently read this interesting blog about MJ and Wishna.

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/michael-jackson-and-jack-wishna-in-2007/ (http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/michael-jackson-and-jack-wishna-in-2007/)

I found this part interesting:

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At some point of his life in Las Vegas Michael was seen in a wheelchair which could easily be a case of a lupus flair that erupted due to all this stress. Though people mocked at his behavior as ‘antics’ I doubt very much that a wheelchair was actually Michael’s voluntary choice. What it surely created was much negative publicity and it was due to this publicity and Michael’s quickly worsening state that Jack Wishna dropped his initial plans and suggested to Michael other projects which would not involve the necessity for him to perform.

One of them was the Cirque du Soleil project.

Yes, now we find out that this project was Jack Wishna’s idea, only at that time it was supposed to be an anthem of the Beatles. Preliminary meetings with the Cirque du Soleil management did take place, but the plans were never realized as at this point Wishna said that Michael was “wooed” by AEG Live.

“Woo” means “to seek the affection of with intent to romance, to tempt or invite, entreat, solicit, or importune”, and after seeing this type of courtship Wishna had to step aside.

So apparently Wishna suggested a Cirque show to Michael before his "death".

so , would he also need michael on board for this?  :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 22, 2013, 10:02:43 AM
This shows that Michel wasn’ so much in dire straits as they would have us believe.  He had other options, good ones.  But AEG saw money, big bucks and played the high joker, wooing stealing him from Wishna who was working on things that would not require Michael to be so strenuously and financially obligated.  He was concerned about Michael.  AEG were power players who apparently were only baiting him with all this attention just long enough to get him where they wanted and then…  :icon_e_confused:  I am glad they are being called to the table, though I hate that MJ3 has to be a part of it.  They play dirty ball and will surely be hard on those kids if they have to take the stand during this trial.  Why?  Because they can and they are sycophants.  :Crash:
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: suspicious mind on March 22, 2013, 11:00:27 AM
This shows that Michel wasn’ so much in dire straits as they would have us believe.  He had other options, good ones.  But AEG saw money, big bucks and played the high joker, wooing stealing him from Wishna who was working on things that would not require Michael to be so strenuously and financially obligated.  He was concerned about Michael.  AEG were power players who apparently were only baiting him with all this attention just long enough to get him where they wanted and then…  :icon_e_confused:  I am glad they are being called to the table, though I hate that MJ3 has to be a part of it.  They play dirty ball and will surely be hard on those kids if they have to take the stand during this trial.  Why?  Because they can and they are sycophants.  :Crash:

hum as was apparently peter lopez hummm dead both of them supposedly at their on hand.   :suspect:
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 22, 2013, 02:00:08 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=68aA3lHzcAk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOrtqxguX9w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_RPwfkUzdA[/youtube]

Does this look or sound like an unstable man who was so depressed he took his own life in his garage in his favorite classic car  :WTF:  I think not  :Crash: :ghsdf:
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: Faithad777 on March 22, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Thanks for these videos, hes.  I said the same thing in my post in this thread earlier today.  Even after almost 4 years, it is still dangerous for anyone to protect Michael and be a friend of his, if they don't play by "their" rules.
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 22, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
Thanks for these videos, hes.  I said the same thing in my post in this thread earlier today.  Even after almost 4 years, it is still dangerous for anyone to protect Michael and be a friend of his, if they don't play by "their" rules.

It sounds very strong to me what you are saying here, are you hinting Jack was probably murdered or faked his death to protect himself because was trying to protect Michael somehow?? It seems that Michael has no right to be surrounded by good friends because they should be scared about that fact, sorry in case I got it wrong.
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 22, 2013, 06:09:16 PM
It just feels suspect to me that Wishna, Lopez, and DiLeo, all important people in Michael’s circle, are all dead and Arnie is thought to be a nutcase all before this AEG trial starts.   And not one of these deaths warranted any investigation.  They’re just “dead” poor things  :computer-losy-smiley:  Just sounds fishy somehow.  Neither wife has said a word, except for Lopez’s, and she only briefly.  Don’t you think that they would feel something was up if we do?  If I was married to Peter or Jack, I’d be screaming bloody murder.  That is of course unless they really aren’t dead  :animal0017: and they know it.
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: blankie on March 22, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
It just feels suspect to me that Wishna, Lopez, and DiLeo, all important people in Michael’s circle, are all dead and Arnie is thought to be a nutcase all before this AEG trial starts.   And not one of these deaths warranted any investigation.  They’re just “dead” poor things  :computer-losy-smiley:  Just sounds fishy somehow.  Neither wife has said a word, except for Lopez’s, and she only briefly.  Don’t you think that they would feel something was up if we do?  If I was married to Peter or Jack, I’d be screaming bloody murder.  That is of course unless they really aren’t dead  :animal0017: and they know it.


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Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: Andrea on March 22, 2013, 07:38:22 PM


The first suicide since the hoax began was Chandler's.  On November 5th yet.  So what does that mean when considering Lopez's and WIshna's suicides/"suicides"?
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 22, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Exactly Andrea.  And wasn’t that around the time it was rumored that Jordan was about to reveal the truth about the molestation? :ghsdf:  It just strikes me as strange that a high profile person had died suddenly of unscrupulous causes and those in his inner circle or otherwise involved started dropping like flies and there were no ensuing investigations into any of them.  Who wrote that script because it sucks?  :Crash:
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: Faithad777 on March 22, 2013, 09:12:50 PM
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    It just feels suspect to me that Wishna, Lopez, and DiLeo, all important people in Michael’s circle, are all dead and Arnie is thought to be a nutcase all before this AEG trial starts.   And not one of these deaths warranted any investigation.  They’re just “dead” poor things  :computer-losy-smiley:  Just sounds fishy somehow.  Neither wife has said a word, except for Lopez’s, and she only briefly.  Don’t you think that they would feel something was up if we do?  If I was married to Peter or Jack, I’d be screaming bloody murder.  That is of course unless they really aren’t dead  :animal0017: and they know it.



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I also want to add to what hes said that it also feels like a cover up when they reported that Wishna, Lopez and Chandler all committed suicide.........
I mean, come on, all three of them committed suicide and the whole story just dies, no one mentions their names again?  What are the odds, that these high profile people (at least Wishna and Lopez) both have represented Michael and both speak highly of Michael, to both end up committing suicide after Michael's death............It's hard enough to believe that they actually committed suicide, to add on top of that no serious investigation was done and the whole media is
completely quiet about the whole thing?...........Enough said.............
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: suspicious mind on March 22, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
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    It just feels suspect to me that Wishna, Lopez, and DiLeo, all important people in Michael’s circle, are all dead and Arnie is thought to be a nutcase all before this AEG trial starts.   And not one of these deaths warranted any investigation.  They’re just “dead” poor things  :computer-losy-smiley:  Just sounds fishy somehow.  Neither wife has said a word, except for Lopez’s, and she only briefly.  Don’t you think that they would feel something was up if we do?  If I was married to Peter or Jack, I’d be screaming bloody murder.  That is of course unless they really aren’t dead  :animal0017: and they know it.



 :icon_e_surprised: :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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I also want to add to what hes said that it also feels like a cover up when they reported that Wishna, Lopez and Chandler all committed suicide.........
I mean, come on, all three of them committed suicide and the whole story just dies, no one mentions their names again? What are the odds, that these high profile people (at least Wishna and Lopez) both have represented Michael and both speak highly of Michael, to both end up committing suicide after Michael's death............It's hard enough to believe that they actually committed suicide, to add on top of that no serious investigation was done and the whole media is
completely quiet about the whole thing?...........Enough said.............
exactly!
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on March 23, 2013, 11:03:16 AM
That's what I thought too, why nobody talks about Jordan Chandler's suicide anymore, it's supposed that if he really did commit suicide was because he felt guilty of what he did to Michael and that should be enough for the world to accept that Michael always was innocent of child molestation accusations but it seems to be a forgotten fact.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228772/Michael-Jackson-Jordan-Chandlers-father-Evan-commits-suicide-years-accusing-star-molesting-son.html

Not only Wishna, López and Dileo deaths were odd and happened during this hoax but Liz Taylor and Whitney Houston deaths were very coincidental too.
Title: Re: Did we discuss Jack Wishna’s suicide
Post by: suspicious mind on March 23, 2013, 09:33:01 PM
That's what I thought too, why nobody talks about Jordan Chandler's suicide anymore, it's supposed that if he really did commit suicide was because he felt guilty of what he did to Michael and that should be enough for the world to accept that Michael always was innocent of child molestation accusations but it seems to be a forgotten fact.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1228772/Michael-Jackson-Jordan-Chandlers-father-Evan-commits-suicide-years-accusing-star-molesting-son.html

Not only Wishna, López and Dileo deaths were odd and happened during this hoax but Liz Taylor and Whitney Houston deaths were very coincidental too.

yeah if only just for the fact that there are so many deaths in such a short period of time. :suspect:

ok am i goin lulu here or did the position of some of the smileys change?  :LolLolLolLol: