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Title: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: finfin on February 06, 2013, 09:45:49 AM
TJ Jackson cannot continue to serve as a surrogate parent to Michael Jackson's 3 kids without getting some compensation, so the Executors of MJ's Estate are asking the judge to give TJ a reasonable amount of money to keep the ship afloat.

The Executors filed legal docs -- obtained by TMZ -- in which they say TJ has been extremely devoted to Paris, Prince and Blanket since MJ's death.  TJ -- who is now a co-guardian along with Katherine Jackson -- spends 40 hours a week caring for the 3 kids. 
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The Executors say it's been a hardship for TJ -- who is married with 3 kids of his own.  Although he's been a co-guardian since July, he hasn't received a single penny for his services.

The Executors are asking the judge to allow them to pay TJ $9,000 a month, retroactive to July.  They add, the way it's going now, TJ may not be able to continue, so compensation is essential.

Sounds like a pretty good deal to us.

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Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 06, 2013, 10:16:26 AM
I don’t get the money thing if these children are family.  I know you need money to care for children, but Katherine is still getting the money so if she’s not taking care of them or partially, split it with T.J.  I  just don’t get that it always comes down to a money issue. These aren’t adopted children. These are Michael’s kids.  :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on February 06, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
They probably dont even live with him. They probably live with Michael. Theres always seems to be money issues surrounding MJs kids and they're guardianship. There maybe some meassage in the money, but thats honestly just a guess. I find it hard to believe that Katherine wouldnt give him money to put towards caring for MJs kids.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: paula-c on February 06, 2013, 01:52:23 PM
If the is 40 hours per week with the children  want  say that he not  lives with them, this story is another invention of " someone 
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: diggyon on February 06, 2013, 02:16:16 PM
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They probably dont even live with him. They probably live with Michael. Theres always seems to be money issues surrounding MJs kids and they're guardianship. There maybe some meassage in the money, but thats honestly just a guess. I find it hard to believe that Katherine wouldnt give him money to put towards caring for MJs kids.

May be because they might be living with MJ, it's MJ who might be in need of the money but through someone else!
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 06, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
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If the is 40 hours per week with the children  want  say that he not  lives with them, this story is another invention of " someone

The 40 hours per week is what catches the eye.  That’s like saying it’s a 40-hour workweek.  I wouldn’t think that being there for family would be considered a job where you are paid by the hour. 
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: blankie on February 06, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Surely he does not live with Prince Paris and Blanket because they live with their dad  :bearhug:... his 40 hours per week with childrens  will be when Michael is busy with his business.....  :icon_razz:  :bearhug: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on February 06, 2013, 05:32:31 PM
Yes, that's how I read it too, a 40-hour workweek of MJ and because his children live with him they must be taken care of/guarded while MJ's not at home. Although the co-guardian is a family member it's probably also an employment agreement. I think we can't speculate about if this compensation amount is fair or not because we have no idea about the required expenses.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 06, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Soooooo  :icon_e_confused: what of the money that is already being paid to Katherine for the children?  If TJ is jeeping them then it seems only fair that the money Katherine is getting go to him.  Just seems fair to me.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 06, 2013, 10:04:18 PM
The more I think about this I don’t even see why it had to be made public if TJ was asking for money.  Is this a scheme of divide and conquer?  Get the fans to now hate on TJ and accuse him of greed while the Estate comes out smelling like a rose for agreeing to “look into” the matter.  :computer-losy-smiley:  Perhaps that is something I should have considered before passing judgement.  Have to think outside the box ALL the time it seems.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 07, 2013, 12:36:58 AM
To me it seems very odd, that the estate even have to ask for the judge to approve, does that mean that everytime they will hire a new employe they have to ask a jugde if he would aprove?

I agree everlasting, we have no idea.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: curls on February 07, 2013, 01:55:13 AM
Agree with you.

"......so the Executors of MJ's Estate are asking the judge to give TJ a reasonable amount of money......"


Isn't this what Executors do?  Make decisions about a person's estate.  Do they seriously have to 'ask a judge'?  Can anyone do anything in the US without involving (highly paid) lawyers?

I'll stop now.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: MJonmind on February 07, 2013, 02:42:29 AM
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Surely he does not live with Prince Paris and Blanket because they live with their dad  :bearhug:... his 40 hours per week with childrens  will be when Michael is busy with his business.....  :icon_razz:  :bearhug: :michael-jackson:
Well the kids have certainly never looked like they're grieving (Paris' acting crying at the memorial).  I agree "40 hours" is a strong hint to a working week.  Mind you MJ always said he never stops creating, plus he told a TII worker that he couldn't stand one day without being with his kids.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: suspicious mind on February 07, 2013, 06:14:03 AM
so maybe the question here is where is kate and what is she spending her time at?

wouldn't the issue of financial needs have been addressed as soon as tj took over?
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: taty_2crazy on February 07, 2013, 08:45:02 AM
40 hours per week? Then who takes care of the kids in the remaining time????  :icon_question: Katherine should split the money with TJ, is what seems fairer to me. :icon_idea:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 07, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
 i believe Michael will not appreciate us jugde family members and mostly not his Mother.

Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: Snoopy71 on February 07, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
All these "money" issues just gives me a bad feeling.  :icon_e_confused:



....retroactive pay for the last 7 months too?  :WTF:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 07, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
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i believe Michael will not appreciate us jugde family members and mostly not his Mother.

I don’t think posters are making judgements only investigating the reason behind the request.  I retracted my statement a few posts back because I did not want to appear judgmental.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: suspicious mind on February 07, 2013, 06:31:50 PM
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i believe Michael will not appreciate us jugde family members and mostly not his Mother.

I don’t think posters are making judgements only investigating the reason behind the request.  I retracted my statement a few posts back because I did not want to appear judgmental.

did they give any details when this arrangement started as to what sharing this would actually mean as far as who the kids would stay with or how much time each would spend taking care of them?  no one has heard anything else on her health right? joe was the last we heard anything about health wise right , and he sounded and looked pretty good right? perhaps the court case is requiring a lot of time and energy.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: Andrea on February 07, 2013, 08:28:56 PM
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i believe Michael will not appreciate us jugde family members and mostly not his Mother.

I don’t think posters are making judgements only investigating the reason behind the request.  I retracted my statement a few posts back because I did not want to appear judgmental.

did they give any details when this arrangement started as to what sharing this would actually mean as far as who the kids would stay with or how much time each would spend taking care of them?  no one has heard anything else on her health right? joe was the last we heard anything about health wise right , and he sounded and looked pretty good right? perhaps the court case is requiring a lot of time and energy.


If Michael is not able to see his kids as often as he would like, he would want them well taken care of.  It would be very tiring for Katherine to take care of the 3 children at her age and if a lot of TJ's time is spent with the kids, he cannot easily earn his own money elsewhere in other pursuits.  I'm sure Michael spares no expense when it comes to his children, especially if he can't be with them all the time.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: underthemoon on February 08, 2013, 03:49:09 AM
When TJ want money for his co guardienship, he puts this on a business level.
40 hours....the kids are not that young that they need so much supervising ! Hey Prince drives a car and goes shopping with bodyguards....he and Paris are at Buckley several hours a day.
I thought TJ was only the co guardien for that time Katherine could'nt care or he does some trips with them.
When he spends 40 hours a day with them.....didn't he as a job ? He must sleep and he has a wife and 3 kids....his day must have more then 24 hours....

With Love <3<3<3 ;)
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 08, 2013, 04:35:41 AM
May i remind everyone that the article says TJ considers caring for the kids to be a 40 hours per week activity.
TMZ wrote that... who said TJ actually said it this way  ?

Caring for kids you have guardianship might not cost money. I mean, unless he has to pay for school, extra activities, clothes, food, etc etc... For this, Katherine is supposed to have money, no ?
Or maybe TJ consider his time as "legal guardian" to be the same as "babysitting job" I mean, you don't get paid to keep "your" kids. Some people do it 24/7 as parents... As long as they are "his" on a legal side, shared with Katherine, and she is already having money for it.

This whole thing is just another TMZ article...It's not about judging TJ, but maybe more about "why TMZ puts it public and write it this way" Sounds like TJ has to be a bad guy, considering the kids as a full time job, to be paid for.
This sounds not ok.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: ShyBleuEyes on February 08, 2013, 08:45:41 AM
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i believe Michael will not appreciate us jugde family members and mostly not his Mother.

I don’t think posters are making judgements only investigating the reason behind the request.  I retracted my statement a few posts back because I did not want to appear judgmental.

I agree with you Hes, it was a too strong wording from my site. and i apologise for my choice of words.
I know anyone here has the best at heart towards Michael and Katherine, and i really do appreciate you all very much.
It's human nature to give our opinion, and i am certainly no saint myself at this one. So what i wrote before was also meant for myself to stay aware, not get carried away by story's from TMZ or other media.

With respect to you all

Shy x :)
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 08, 2013, 11:57:36 AM
Let’s not forget the ages of the children. They aren’t babies who need to be “watched” 24-7 so it certainly isn’t for that.  We all know as parents that as children grow, their needs increase age appropriately and they are surely wanting things that cost a bit more now.  So maybe that’s what TJ was referring to.  Not money to “watch” them as the article puts it, but to continue taking them to places and doing things that they enjoy.  It has been stated that they love being with him and vice versa and he takes them to lots of places and do everything together with his own children.  That can get expensive over time.  I can understand then him possibly asking for more money to continue doing this, however, I know he doesn’t appreciate it being publicized like it was as he would not want the children to know he was in any financial stress and read it as being because of them.  So still, TMZ & the Estate making that announcement was in my opinion in poor taste and very inconsiderate.  The children are all internet savvy and can read just like the rest of the world. It’s tacky!
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: suspicious mind on February 12, 2013, 06:32:49 AM
i guess what i have been trying to convey here is that i think any monetary needs would have been dealt with at the time of making the arrangements in the first place. there are probably guidelines in place for this. so this little peice is overkill but why? jmo

wasn't the talk at the time about katherine coming back upset that if she lost custody she would lose the money connected with having the children? hard to keep up with all the details. perhaps that is the point.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 12, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
The main thing is that the kids can't be in several places at a time. So the person who is legaly in charge of the kids must have been given the money for it.I mean, if justice made decision for an amount of money to raise the kids, this money obviously goes to the person in charge of the kids, being Katherine or TJ.
I don't understand how TJ had custody "without" being able to deal with the money. It doesn't sound "legally" possible.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: suspicious mind on February 12, 2013, 05:51:59 PM
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The main thing is that the kids can't be in several places at a time. So the person who is legaly in charge of the kids must have been given the money for it.I mean, if justice made decision for an amount of money to raise the kids, this money obviously goes to the person in charge of the kids, being Katherine or TJ.
I don't understand how TJ had custody "without" being able to deal with the money. It doesn't sound "legally" possible.

yeah thats what i mean    :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: MJonmind on February 13, 2013, 12:03:08 AM
If MJ is truly with his kids a lot, in hiding, then this story perpetuates the public believing the idea that they are without adult supervision when KJ is too tired/weak.  Aren't they always accompanied by a couple of security gaurds everywhere they go, and in the house there is cooks, housekeeping and probably visiting cousins, friends, etc.?
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 13, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
 :thjajaja121: I’ll bet TMZ thrusts these little tidbits of info into cyberspace with room to “read between the lines” then sit back and wait to see how much we are going to tear them apart.  Surely they know who they are dealing with by now.  We leave no stones unturned and nothing left to chance. They probably think that the death hoax investigators are fascinating and amongst the best  :smiley-vault-misc-150:  So TMZ, let us entertain you.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: MJonmind on February 13, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
Or they think we are morons, but...that would tire awfully quickly.  I would ignore morons and engage people at least in the know and stimulating.
Naw, I think MJ gives them the details to write for hoax purposes.  Always the comments show people don't want to hear TMZ's MJ related stuff.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 15, 2013, 01:33:06 PM
I don't know if we are some guinea pigs for them, but we surely are MONEY.
We keep visiting and following their website, making it more valuable...

I personnaly never click on it. I check it from the forum lol
I already said we should take the info from them and check about it here, to see if losing audience stop them from talking about MJ...
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: Andrea on February 15, 2013, 06:30:29 PM
TMZ response?  Read between the lines indeed.


(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/harveyknow.jpg)


TMZ re-tweeted this, so did Harvey.  That's what we are always saying.  And the true meaning of that bold declarative statement won't be fully understood by the public until after you-know-what. 
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: Faithad777 on February 15, 2013, 08:12:49 PM
Andrea  :LolLolLolLol: With this one I don't think we need to read between the lines.... It's very bold and in your face......
Just being a devil's advocate, please don't hurt me   :smiley_abuv:    what else could it mean?  Is it an inside joke?
L.O.V.E. , Faith
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: MJonmind on February 16, 2013, 01:29:26 AM
Well I don't know for sure if it is this connection, but it's what I thought of immediately--Latoya!  "Harvey knows!"
TS also mentioned it as proof the Jacksons are in on the hoax.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t0f7T8h3VTM[/youtube]
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on February 16, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
After watching that vid where La Toya states that Harvey knows I wonder if public understands what she is meaning, maybe people thinks: what does Harveys know?? and what does Harvey have to do with Michael's "death"?? that's funny!!.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 17, 2013, 09:34:53 AM
I know.

(simple as printing 5 letters on a t-shirt)

I'm sorry but people claiming they know... how many do we have ? HOW can you trust a tabloid ? I mean IT IS a tabloid, like it or not. As far as i am concerned, this tabloid is playing mind games, BUT we have nothing SURE about this tabloid to be linked with MJ, as far as MJ cannot talk about it. It could be ALL build on nothing, or simply by money greedy people
Long ago i said i would only believe what's coming out of MJ's mouth himself.
He cannot talk = i trust noone.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: MissG on February 17, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
Well, 9000 per moth means 3000 per kid per month. It sounds too much to cover food and clothes and other expenses including school fees. Also, 40 hours a week? A job of 8 hours a day Monday to Friday? :icon_neutral:

I understand that we are talking about high profile kids, but family matters as such must stay within the family.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 17, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
$3,000/month per child sounds extravagant to me, but then I am not a high profile person.  It has always infuriated me to see the exhoborent prices Michael was charged by EVERYBODY for ANY & EVERYTHING.  I’m sure that will follow with his children.  When merchants see a Jackson coming, they automatically see dollar$$$ and I wouldn’t be surprised if what they are charged is a lot more than anybody else simply because they don’t question it and they got it like that.  So $3,000 per month for a Jackson kid probably isn’t in the real world that much.
Title: Re: TJ Jackson He Needs Cash To Care for Michael's Kids
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 17, 2013, 02:14:45 PM
I'm not surprise by the amount, considering who we are talking about. Though i can not imagine carring for kids would be a 3000 per month issue when i get 30% of that per month lol

Now considering
school and activities
food, clothes etc
health (teeth, glasses, skin issue, whatever a kid/teen needs in his life)
fun : gifts, parties, new laptop, the last video game etc...
moving : i think when the kids are out, there must be some more bodyguards around and this people get paid.
Employees in the house as long as the kids give an extra work.

We can think they are normal kids and they don't need so much money but i think the jackson family's "living level" is little "higher" than what we can consider to be "simple life"

I think this amount takes eveything into consideration so it doesn't sound crazy to me.
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