Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: MaryK on January 23, 2013, 12:19:52 PM
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Jail has broken Dr. Conrad Murray ... physically and mentally ... this according to The Doc himself, who's been calling everyone he knows HYSTERICALLY CRYING and complaining that he's in "constant pain."
TMZ has obtained one of the voicemails Murray recently left for a friend ... in which he sobs uncontrollably and begs for someone to save him.
During the message, Murray says, "I can't sleep now ... it's very hard ... I'm in constant pain ... can someone please help me please!?"
Ironic, since sleep trouble is why he's in jail in the first place -- only it was Michael Jackson who couldn't catch some zzzzs.
Murray says he's been crippled by a devastating shoulder injury -- "I can't use my hands anymore ... I have no more use of my arms."
The Doc says he's been calling everyone he knows for help -- but no one picked up.
Murray pleads to his friend to call Sheriff Baca for help -- "Ask him to please see me, maybe he don't know what happens in here."
FYI -- Murray is scheduled to be released by the end of the year, but Sheriff Baca could release him into home confinement before then ... if he feels like it.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/23/dr-conrad-murray-crying-voicemail-constant-pain-phone-cant-sleep-jail/ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/23/dr-conrad-murray-crying-voicemail-constant-pain-phone-cant-sleep-jail/)
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1) NPG.com is displayed.....haven't seen them around in a while
2) what's the music playing in the background...near the end.
3) since when is he shackled all the time?
4) how could this have been recorded and released to TMZ....WTFoosball?
That's just the start of my :icon_rolleyes:
Back in a bit...gotta go listen again, lol........
Blessings
PS> Thanks RK and Mary for the heads up and the post......
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Ironic, since sleep trouble is why he's in jail in the first place -- only it was Michael Jackson who couldn't catch some zzzzs.
Very revealing sentence there.
The Doc says he's been calling everyone he knows for help -- but no one picked up.
No one picked up except for TMZ!!!
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Also, I forgot to add, he's using the exact same words Michael used in his video of police brutality when they handcuffed him and so on:
"I'm in pain all the time".
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yeah makes me think of the 60 mins. thing too
also brings to mind the voice message to deiter where deiter later says that being tired ( i think was the term) was code for under the influence
and also the strange way kia chase just went back to making lunch after murray came down and asked for help.
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I can't get past Murray's sentence about having no more use of his arms for washing his back. Weirdly worded and petty sounding. Just all kinds of strange in that voicemail.
Now if I believed for a minute that Murray was actually suffering in jail, I would have to say what a whiney big skirt he is, and it's apparent that jail hasn't toughened him up. 8 months waiting for an MRI and 6 months.....yes yes Murray...we can add....that makes 14...and which attorney won't pick up....Weis, Flannie or the Chernoff? By the way where is Ed these days?
But we ' pick up' on the similarities of MJ's phone calls to Deiter and also MJ's arrest and injuries from his handcuffs as the previous posts have said.
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Anyone ever noticed how similar Flannigan and Oxman are?
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Dammit I cannot get this to play and I am dying to hear it :thjajaja121: What goes around comes back around. Reminds me of Murray’s tape of MJ slurring his words. Please tell me that Murray is slurring his here. Please :bowdown:
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Gotta do it, lol......
165 = CRYING VOICEMAIL = resurrection = love never fails = because I love them = one day to freedom
(there are more...these are just the ones that make me smile most)
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=crying+voicemail
@bec...yes I have, but why do you ask here, neither of them are mentioned in the article? Other than Flanagan is supposedly still representing CM maybe?
(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Thomas+Mesereau+Brian+Oxman+Michael+Jackson+c83C09xmr1Ol.jpg)
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@hesouttamylife......did you try going to the direct TMZ page itself? That's the only way I can hear it......
Blessings
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Because it just occurred to me as I was reading this article that mentioned Flannigan.
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It's good to see you bec. Ya, they are similar, but hadn't noticed until you mentioned it.
Please tell me that Murray is slurring his here. Please
hesout, hopefully you listened to it by now, and yep, is he ever slurring... Slurry, Whiney (like Rk said).
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so this is funny . hubby has been havin a bit of trouble sleeping lately when he is on third shift so he was looking through coupons for a deal on some kind of sleep aid.
he runs across this one on a product called MidNite . this where it turns funny they have this woman who is all dark under they eyes (remember murray saying that when michael was begging for this milk that he looked like he did in thriller) :thjajaja121: then the ad says "waking in the night turning you into Zombie? get back to yourself again with MIdNIte. :WTF: :errrr: :icon_eek: it is supposed to be drug free and non habit forming.
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Voices, background music ¿ where these Murray? ,...........And for sleep a drops of propofol :fresse: :icon_lol:
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Please give Murray some profofol. :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: This is a joke :thjajaja121: How did TMZ get this and who was Murray calling? Oh my goodness :thjajaja121: for 8 monts my shoulder has been in pain and I cant wash my back :thjajaja121: Is that his main concern? Jody will wash it for him. This is such an interesting movie. So many dips and curves. You never know what’s next. First Arnie ranting like a raving maniac and now Murray - whining like a spoiled brat. OMG :thjajaja121: Carry on...
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Voices, background music ¿ where these Murray? ,...........And for sleep a drops of propofol :fresse: :icon_lol:
:icon_lol: Great Paula !!! :icon_lol:
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Dr Murray talking about not being able to wash his back and allowing him to have his hands handcuffed at the front rather than the back in this message.......hmmmm :icon_albino: :icon_mrgreen:
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good catch Adi :th_bravo:
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......of course it could just be yet another one of those many hundred whacky, crazy "coincidences" in this hoax - though I doubt it is.
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Dr Murray talking about not being able to wash his back and allowing him to have his hands handcuffed at the front rather than the back in this message.......hmmmm :icon_albino: :icon_mrgreen:
???
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o[/youtube]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97nAvTVeR6o[/youtube]
That video always takes my mind to thoughts of a secret agenda for prisons/prisoners.
Many businesses profit from the exploitation of prison labour, a term for this is Prison Industrial Complex. A blunter term would be slavery. Shockingly (not), a Rockefeller began the Prison industrial complex. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison%E2%80%93industrial_complex
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Thank you for sharing this. Oh my, he sounded like he was acting - or maybe I'm becoming hardened. Either way I just felt like laughing. God help me if I'm all wrong in this.
I agree - there is something very familiar with this all - front, back, constant pain, can't sleep, please help, all things we've heard from Michael over the years. There is a parallel to 2005 trial again. And now his own friends have turned on him, selling the story - just like MJ's "close" friends have seemed to do over the years.
Wow. Just wow. I think there must be something in the timing of that video being played now and with the numbers, 8, 8, 6. Gotta keep that in my mind for sure.
And I agree also that Flanagan and Oxman seem to have parallels too. Maybe that is something to be looked at. The thing I noticed the most, coming from the medical field, is that Dr Murray does not talk like any doctor I've been around. No way no how.
Blessings
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I listened on the way home on the bus. I was trying to keep from laughing out loud. That's some mighty fine voice acting there, Murray. And I agree with you guys that Murray mentioned not being able to wash his back. Maybe he can get somebody else to wash his back. You know, like you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours? Is Nicole available? LOL.
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I've NEVER in my life heard such a whiny cry-baby grown man talk like that. :icon_lol: It's like he's lost all his dignity and male ego. No one close to him died, or rejected him, and he only has 9 months to go (that's if he's truly in there).
January 28, 2012 this came out. From this is doesn't seem like he is handcuffed all the time. What's the point if his cell door is locked?
He said Murray is being held in solitary confinement and is chained to a table when he meets with his lawyers.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/showbiz-and-lifestyle/showbiz/2012/01/28/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-in-release-plea-91466-30217073/
The last time we heard/saw Murray cry was in court, when 5 character witnesses described what a great caring doctor he was. Uh-huh... :icon_rolleyes:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/showbiz-and-lifestyle/showbiz/2012/01/28/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-in-release-plea-91466-30217073/
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The article says:
TMZ has obtained one of the voicemails Murray recently left for a friend ...
So, we are to believe this "friend" rang up TMZ and said, "Hey, Conrad Murray left this message on my machine you want it?"
Who is this friend? And since when do prisoners have the luxury of calling everyone they know? They can make calls, but
it's very expensive....thought he had no money?
Article about how expensive prison calls are:
http://oaklandlocal.com/article/cost-phone-calls-prison-hurting-family-reunification
Good thoughts Voice and MJonmind........this whole thing is really quite amazing.........
When Murray does get out (lol....I'll play along)....he should be able to become a spokesperson for Kleenex....being that his
career path won't exactly be the same.
Have a better day than Murray y'all...........
Blessings
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Tom Mesereau has now chimed in:
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/24/michael-jackson-tom-mesereau-conrad-murray-voicemail/
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Tom Mesereau has now chimed in:
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/24/michael-jackson-tom-mesereau-conrad-murray-voicemail/ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/24/michael-jackson-tom-mesereau-conrad-murray-voicemail/)
makes me remember conrad murray's friend ,Sarge, who said the whole 'people vs. conrad murray trial' was a tv show. I'm looking for that video...
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"I've NEVER in my life heard such a whiny cry-baby grown man talk like that. :icon_lol: It's like he's lost all his dignity and male ego. No one close to him died, or rejected him, and he only has 9 months to go (that's if he's truly in there)." This is a quote from MJ on mind, I'm having some problems here, sorry.
Hi MJonmind, this is one of the many reasons that reinforces my belief in this hoax, the way this guy (Murray) talks, cries..., behaves, the words he uses when he's talking about Michael and his being in jail (if he even really is in jail) is just a complete JOKE...
makes me remember conrad murray's friend ,Sarge, who said the whole 'people vs. conrad murray trial' was a tv show. I'm looking for that video...
Thriller4ever, I believe the trial WAS a tv show, with some good and some not so good actors, lots of props (Elephant, Pumpkin, rabbit just to name a few), had a sort of beginning, a middle and an end to it, had a plot and I suppose the ending was a happy one for some and not so happy for others! This is how I feel about the whole situation, and wanted to express my thoughts here since I've been holding all of this in for a very, very, very long time...
Thank you to everyone who is listening and adding their own thoughts and feelings, I appreciate it very much.
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1) Civil Liberties/Rights (Flanagan)
2) U.S. Constitution (Wass)
3) Freedom Speech (TMZ)
4) Sheriff Baca (Law Enforcement)
5) 8 months (Time)
6) Tom Mesereau (Accountability)
7) (Key witness)? :icon_e_confused:
Why do I feel like there is some maneuvering going on here? :ghsdf:
also....why has SimPattyK been MIA so long? :suspect:
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Could anybody post the last TMZ article: FAMED MJ ATTORNEY DISGUSTED BY CONRAD MURRAY VOICEMAIL, about Tom Mesereau, there is a vid in it.
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Could anybody post the last TMZ article: FAMED MJ ATTORNEY DISGUSTED BY CONRAD MURRAY VOICEMAIL, about Tom Mesereau, there is a vid in it.
You mean this one Sweet ?
Tom Mesereau -- the lawyer who successfully defended Michael Jackson in the singer's 2005 molestation trial -- literally could not stand to listen to Conrad Murray's desperate voicemail yesterday ... telling TMZ, "This man is despicable."
Tom was out in L.A. when we played the recording for him, and after just a minute, Tom turned it off with a disgusted look on his face ... saying, "I can't listen to any more of this."
Tom then tore into Conrad Murray over his desperate pleas for sympathy -- saying, "This man is despicable. This man has never taken responsibility for what he did to Michael Jackson. He's always been a blamer. He blames Michael Jackson for everything."
Tom added, "[Conrad] wants everyone to feel sorry for his situation. He caused the death of one of the greatest artists in world history ... a kind, decent, wonderful, nice person. He caused his death and he's never taken responsibility for it."
TMZ posted the voicemail recording yesterday morning, in which Murray pleads with a friend to save him from jail -- saying, "I can't sleep now ... it's very hard ... I'm in constant pain ... can someone please help me please!?"
@Faithad777 I totally agree with you ! The way Murray talks is too fishy and hoaxy to be true ! The problem that he doesn't even sound like he's trying hard enough to act ! I'm not impressed though lol
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Me, unlike you, don't find it so funny when I listen to CM crying that way because I think he is conveying Michael's feelings :icon_cry:, CM has been impersonating Michael's behaviour and words from the beginning of this hoax, furthermore we all know that Michael loves to talk about the back → toward→ down :icon_lol:.
@Jowayria...yes it's, thanks for posting it!!
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humm starting at 3:00
[youtube][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mOBIezPkN0/youtube]
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@Suspicious vid:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mOBIezPkN0[/youtube]
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Is someone able to please post that Mesereau article under it's own thread in TMZ articles? I would but am at work and can only do quick replies.
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I can't get past Murray's sentence about having no more use of his arms for washing his back. Weirdly worded and petty sounding. Just all kinds of strange in that voicemail.
No more use for Back?
Made it better by cuffing me in Front...
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I agree - there is something very familiar with this all - front, back, constant pain, can't sleep, please help, all things we've heard from Michael over the years. There is a parallel to 2005 trial again. And now his own friends have turned on him, selling the story - just like MJ's "close" friends have seemed to do over the years.
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That is an interesting parallel to MJ. I wonder if Murray really did call his friends and leave voicemails (from wherever he was calling from) to see if anyone would pick up or try to help him. Both MJ and Murray would've found out who their true friends are and who turned their back on them - wrongly thinking the worst of them, believing the lies.
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humm ?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.16250.html
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humm ?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.16250.html
Sorry, which post are you talking about? Front's complications i_deed post?
Complications i_deed
No substance to beg or plead
Patience is all consuming of time
Seemingly without reason or rhyme
Believe in your heart you will get what you need
When the time comes to set the truth free
That first sliver of light
Illuminating a long-forgotten dark room
When the curtain is parted in the dead of night
Dragons and angels continue their fight
He will stand and face them all
Righting wrongs through his rise and fall
Actually, re-reading that does seem to relate to this Murray stuff. Huh. Murray certainly is begging and pleading in that recording...the no substance would be that MJ isn't dead and the possibility that Murray isn't in jail..? Heck, that recording could even parallel the impatience and dismay that was experienced here a little while ago.
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This man should honestly win an Oscar, how can you not feel your hands and in prison they do not keep your hands handcuffed. I know a little about prison. He was so emotional, Yup and the winner of the Oscar issssss... Conrad Murray
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Here we go...more on the crying voicemail from radar online......
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/conrad-murray-baby-mama-nicole-alvarez-sold-jailhouse-voicemail-rent/ (http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/conrad-murray-baby-mama-nicole-alvarez-sold-jailhouse-voicemail-rent/)
Dr. Conrad Murray’s Baby Mama Sold His Jailhouse Sobbing Voicemail To Pay Her Rent
Posted on Jan 25, 2013 @ 4:43AM | By Jen Heger
WENN
Michael Jackson‘s one-time doctor, Conrad Murray‘s baby mama Nicole Alvarez, sold a sobbing voicemail message that the former physician, who was convicted in the involuntary manslaughter death of the King of Pop, made from jail as he sobbed about not being able to sleep, to a tabloid website so she could pay her rent, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.
“Nicole sold the voicemail message Conrad left for her to a tabloid gossip website for several thousand dollars so she could pay her rent. Nicole relied on Conrad to support her and their young child. She hasn’t been able to find steady work as an actress since she testified at Conrad’s involuntary manslaughter trial,” a source told RadarOnline.com exclusively.
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During the voicemail message, Murray cries, “I can’t sleep now, it’s very hard, I’m in constant pain. Can someone please help me? I can’t use my hands anymore, I have no more use of my arms.”
Judge Michael Pastor sentenced Murray to four years in state prison, but because of jail overcrowding, Murray is serving his sentence at a county jail in Los Angeles, and he is expected to be released at the end of 2013.
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Murray has been passing time in jail by writing a tell-all book in hopes that he will get a big payout from a publisher. There has been zero interest in the book after reps for Murray reached out to several publishers.
Meanwhile, Murray is “ever so hopeful that his appeal will be successful, and he will be let out of jail early on bail while his appeal is heard,” the insider said.
However, the chances of Murray being let out early “are really slim to none. Murray has been deemed a flight risk, and he has been denied several times before during the appellate process to be released,” a law enforcement source told us.
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:Crash:
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Oh, so that's why Murray left that pathetic voicemail, just so Nicole could pay her rent, otherwise she wouldn't be able to. It is all for money after everything is said and done. This is the new way to make money, and it started after 6/25/2009, anyone who has no scruples, no ethics, no life of their own, can't make money by working hard at a decent job like the rest of the world, all they have to do is mention the name MICHAEL JACKSON, and voila, they are millionaires!!!!!!
But as they say "easy come, easy go" and all that......
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As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Murray has been passing time in jail by writing a tell-all book in hopes that he will get a big payout from a publisher
Ah! That explains Doc Murray's sore arms and loss of use of his hands. Too much writing.... :-[ And Nicole can't get a job.....better tune up her 'instrument' then.
Seriously tho.....my bullshit tolerance level has just about reached capacity....When LaToya and Jermaine promised us that it was all gonna come out....I didn't think they mean't this verbal diarrhoea thinly veiled as journalism. Still waiting for the truth to prevail guys (http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/waiting2-smiley.gif?1292867695)
Ah.....much better after that gripe...
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Faithad777:
Oh, so that's why Murray left that pathetic voicemail, just so Nicole could pay her rent, otherwise she wouldn't be able to. It is all for money after everything is said and done. This is the new way to make money, and it started after 6/25/2009, anyone who has no scruples, no ethics, no life of their own, can't make money by working hard at a decent job like the rest of the world, all they have to do is mention the name MICHAEL JACKSON, and voila, they are millionaires!!!!!!
But as they say "easy come, easy go" and all that......
I don't know...the call seems so deliberately hoaxy, with several parallels to MJ. Whether money changed hands or not, I think the intent was to enrage people, about Murray and now Nicole. I just highly doubt that she is struggling to pay her rent...
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With sponsers like Coca Cola, and AEG, etc. I'm sure all actors and actresses are being well-paid.
I'm wondering how this voicemail could have been to Nicole when he addresses, "“I can’t sleep now, it’s very hard, I’m in constant pain. Can someone please help me? I can’t use my hands anymore, I have no more use of my arms.”
It would be, "Please Nicole help me." Unless he wasn't in his right mind and forgot who all he was phoning, as in same message for 10 friends, and the other 9 didn't sell for money.
She hasn’t been able to find steady work as an actress since she testified at Conrad’s involuntary manslaughter trial,” a source told RadarOnline.com exclusively.
Interesting wording here--acting at testifying at the trial, acting as his baby mama.
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I think he may be killing two birds with one stone so to speak. There ARE a lot of parallels to MJ and at the same time, money rears its ugly head, and also illusion plays a huge part in this. Once again, I guess we need to read between the lines, and don't believe everything we read.
I agree with what you said Andrea, MJonmind and RK. This could be understood and interpreted in so many ways that I'm getting a huge headache already, or maybe I'm just hungry and I need to have some lunch (It's just before noon here) first...........
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Ok, just had lunch. Nope, lunch did not help, I still have a huge headache from all this.
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Oh, so that's why Murray left that pathetic voicemail, just so Nicole could pay her rent, otherwise she wouldn't be able to. It is all for money after everything is said and done. This is the new way to make money, and it started after 6/25/2009, anyone who has no scruples, no ethics, no life of their own, can't make money by working hard at a decent job like the rest of the world, all they have to do is mention the name MICHAEL JACKSON, and voila, they are millionaires!!!!!!
But as they say "easy come, easy go" and all that......
The call is fictitious. Murray isn't in a cell let alone in cuffs.
It's part of the hoax. Lateral thinking will ask 'who feeds tmz'
This has Michaels name all over it. Just like all of the other news scoops!
(Of course tmz embellish too. They wouldn't be a tabloid if they didn't :icon_e_wink: )
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Is unlikely that a prisoner from the jail can send a a message to a newspaper... :icon_razz: and what kind of message then !!!
Completely and absolutely implausible :icon_razz: :icon_razz: Is only.... :ghsdf: :michael-jackson: :icon_e_wink:
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This was as strange as the recording of Michael's voice under drugs.
In spite of getting discouraged lately, I can't shake off the feeling this recording is staged. It just can't be for real....just can't be...can't be...I can not believe this shit !
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Oh, so that's why Murray left that pathetic voicemail, just so Nicole could pay her rent, otherwise she wouldn't be able to. It is all for money after everything is said and done. This is the new way to make money, and it started after 6/25/2009, anyone who has no scruples, no ethics, no life of their own, can't make money by working hard at a decent job like the rest of the world, all they have to do is mention the name MICHAEL JACKSON, and voila, they are millionaires!!!!!!
But as they say "easy come, easy go" and all that......
The call is fictitious. Murray isn't in a cell let alone in cuffs.
It's part of the hoax. Lateral thinking will ask 'who feeds tmz'
This has Michaels name all over it. Just like all of the other news scoops!
(Of course tmz embellish too. They wouldn't be a tabloid if they didn't :icon_e_wink: )
I also think that Murray is not in a prison the history is false, if Nicole Alvarez does not find a job as an actress so she does not work :fresse:
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Just copied a post from the other thread as I meant to post it here.
Sounds like MJ speaking here : 'And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain'
This hoax is lodging one giant complaint against the evils. Music biz, press, false accusers etc. JMO
I also like Jacksons' Conrads use of the word 'Suboptimal'
suboptimal (not comparable) ... A suboptimal solution to a problem is often more useful than an optimal ...
This hoax is suboptimal, sure at times it's hurtful, frustrating, deceitful and not optimal, but its useful! Serves purpose! We must hang in there. When its difficult need to remember the grand picture of vindication :)
Conrad: - I have liberties that’s civil, I can speak
Exactly Michael! And he speaks through this hoax and will continue to post hoax. Wrongs righted!
And if you don't mind, I'd say a little Front comment here: I have requested by now cuffing me in front rather than behind
Oh' don't worry Front. We feel cuffed here. It's difficult at times but there is no escape. The lure of the hoax lol
The transcript has Michael's name all over it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267258/Conrad-Murray-Disgraced-Michael-Jackson-doctor-sobs-desperate-plea-medical-care.html#ixzz2IqEPr56w
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umm can someone tell when michael made the accusations against the police about what happened to him during his time there, do i remember hearing that they in a sense told him to put up or shut up?
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umm can someone tell when michael made the accusations against the police about what happened to him during his time there, do i remember hearing that they in a sense told him to put up or shut up?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXTWzi9vcg[/youtube]
Was that 2003?
Edit: was taped on Christmas day 2003, aired on December 28, 2003.
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2003/11/21/in_depth_showbiz/timeline584962.shtml
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I'm thinking the LAPD had to have been ordered by Sneddon and higher authorities to publicly humiliate and physically torment Michael as much as possible while they had him in their possession. I simply can't see regular police doing that to such a huge well-known celebrity, without special orders. 70 police to ransack and rip up his bedroom and Neverland, force his handcuffed hands high behind his back when MJ willingly went with the police and complied in every way, and locking him up in a bathroom smeared with feces (poor guy who had to clean that :icon_e_sad:). And at that point all it was was allegations only, with no proof he was guilty. Sneddon and many higher officials should be charged with crimes, and hopefully will soon.
Aussie
Sounds like MJ speaking here : 'And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain'
This reminds me of "pain(s)" in the song 'Will you be there?'
In Our Darkest Hour
In My Deepest Despair
Will You Still Care?
Will You Be There?
In My Trials
And My Tribulations
Through Our Doubts
And Frustrations
In My Violence
In My Turbulence
Through My Fear
And My Confessions
In My Anguish And My Pain(s)
Through My Joy And My Sorrow
In The Promise Of Another Tomorrow
I'll Never Let You Part
For You're Always In My Heart.
These are all CM's use of 'pain'.
My right shoulder pain has been so bad
I can’t sleep now, it’s very hard and I’m in constant pain.
I don't understand for eight months I’ve been in this pain but more and more loss of my limbs.
I've been using the Motrin they've given me but it doesn’t take the pain away.
And I think I have the right to complain if I'm in pain.
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I'm thinking the LAPD had to have been ordered by Sneddon and higher authorities to publicly humiliate and physically torment Michael as much as possible while they had him in their possession. I simply can't see regular police doing that to such a huge well-known celebrity, without special orders. 70 police to ransack and rip up his bedroom and Neverland, force his handcuffed hands high behind his back when MJ willingly went with the police and complied in every way, and locking him up in a bathroom smeared with feces (poor guy who had to clean that :icon_e_sad:). And at that point all it was was allegations only, with no proof he was guilty. Sneddon and many higher officials should be charged with crimes, and hopefully will soon.
You are absolutely right. My guess is that it's more likely a celebrity would be treated with kid gloves or that the story might be shoved under the carpet. It's even harder to imagine his treatment inside, for many reasons, not the least of which would be the threat of a huge lawsuit. One can only conclude that Michael had some powerful enemies and I can't help but think Sneddon was merely the messenger and the orders came from someone with far more political clout than a local District Attorney. Somewhere along the line there was a video demonstrating a connection between Sneddon and the Vatican and the implication that Michael's child molestation charges were a means of taking attention away from the Vatican's many scandals. In that same video, Santa Barbara county was identified as a safe haven for priests under investigation for child molestation.
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So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:
Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.
So like the crap with Murray i even also don´t believe i hadn´t heard the voice mail but what i read and witnessed in the trial don´t believe he was is only real one day in jail since then and if so don´t be a p... like that if MJ would be really dead he should rod in hell ähm jail and not coming out at end of this year but otherwise if mj really is in disguise as conrad that would be different because we wont mj came that late out to prevail the truth or did we :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_surprised: :WTF: :icon_e_smile:
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So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:
Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.
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I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.
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So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:
Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.
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I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.
I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviours too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:
Welcome to Hollywood
That's what they told you
A child star in Hollywood
That's what they sold you
Grace with beauty, charme and talent
You would do what you were told
But they robbed you of childhood
Took your youth and sold it for gold.
It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...
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So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:
Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.
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I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.
I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviour too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:
Welcome to Hollywood
That's what they told you
A child star in Hollywood
That's what they sold you
Grace with beauty, charme and talent
You would do what you were told
But they robbed you of childhood
Took your youth and sold it for gold.
It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...
Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.
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So could it be that George W.Bush and the NWO illuminats Assholes could behind the accussing child molestating Trial(s) in the early new millenium. Because the failed to Kill Michael in the 9/11 inside job scam where he should die in one of the towers, so the tried it again to destroy him and helped Sneddon to make it but thanks for MJ US and FOR JUSTICE at least (even that it shouldn´t even came that far but less). :omg: :WTF: :judge-smiley:
Nevermind real Justice will hopefully came through thick and thin soon This is It for the long waiting Michael we wait hope and ready to give boots to asses and knees to faces.
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I do think TPTB were behind the allegations and trial against Michael and that Sneddon was paid by them for his part in it. The reason I think this is because TPTB's credo is control through fear and Michael's message is love for everyone - so in direct opposition to TPTB's way of doing things. Michael, just prior to the time of the '93 allegations, had the love of the masses, something TPTB could never have and they would've resented him for that and realized the power of Michael's influence. So yes, maybe since they weren't able to "get him" during the 9/11 attacks (assuming La Toya and Jermaine's account of this is true), TPTB's next move was to have Michael accused, again. Michael prevailed during that trial when he was found not guilty but he would've known the battle of good vs evil wasn't done yet.
I think you both are right but I would add this: as Andrea says the masses loved Michael due to the love he was spreading all over but Michael was always hinting evil's behaviour too through his lyrics, right now the song MJ dedicated to Elizabeth Taylor is coming to my mind:
Welcome to Hollywood
That's what they told you
A child star in Hollywood
That's what they sold you
Grace with beauty, charme and talent
You would do what you were told
But they robbed you of childhood
Took your youth and sold it for gold.
It's like Michael is hinting with his songs that somebody is taking advantage of them (Hollywood stars) whom they (TPTB) squeezes and get so much benefit no matter the prize these stars has to pay, as: no private life, long work sessions with the consequent insomnia, always subjected to the media scrutiny and so on...
Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.
OMG that makes so much sense to me :icon_e_confused:
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Yes and Corey Feldman said the biggest secret in Hollywood is pedophilia, that it happens all the time and when he (Corey) was younger, he was surrounded by those monsters. Michael loves children more than anything and it's been suggested before that perhaps Michael was going to expose these vile predators but they turned it around on him and tried to make the world think that Michael was the monster when it's they who are the evil ones.
This reminds me of the John Travolta story recently where a couple of male massage therapists sued him for sexual harassment and it was published somewhere that Travolta revealed to one of them that that's how to get ahead in Hollywood. As I recall he said, he had done things that would make most people throw up. But after the first million you get used to it. I believe the lawsuits were dropped but the stories hit their mark.
There's this one as in which Travolta allegedly said:
The most troubling nugget in Doe's account claims that Travolta went on a rant that "Hollywood is controlled by homosexual Jewish men who expect favors in return for sexual activity" and that his habit of making such trades began in his "Welcome Back Kotter" days.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/07/entertainment/la-et-mg-john-travolta-masseuse-lawsuit-touch
(Note they provide a link to the full lawsuit available from TMZ :WTF:)
And here's an odd headline about Travolta on TMZ: TRAVOLTA- NOT THE MAN HE USED TO BE..... :WTF:
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/10/john-travolta-yesterday-beatles-keith-urban/
Why use that particular line from the song. And the whole thing seemed absurd anyway.
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I am so sorry Michael for what they put you through. I too believe that Sneddon was all up in those allegations against Michael. It seemed to be his life goal to rid the world of him. And I still think a lot of it had to do with Sneddon’s inability to accept that a black man with such meager beginnings deserved all the accolades and love and possessions that Michael had amassed in his lifetime. Sneddon so wanted those children taken from Michael & Miichael locked up for the rest of his life that he was vividly salivating at the mouth during the 2005 trial. He is an evil, malicious, envious snake. :ghsdf: :Crash: And I do wish harm upon him. Sorry guys. I know that’s hash but no harsher than when he wanted for Michael.