Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Discussion => Topic started by: MJonmind on January 08, 2013, 01:29:13 AM
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I’m hoping this is still acceptable in the forum because it is about TMZ, MJ and TIAI. If not just let me know. This is revisiting some old info that I thought might be helpful at this stage, especially since there was some discouragement about the hoax in general. Hopefully this will restore some measure of faith. In this video by MJHoaxEvidence, she explains the clear connection of TMZ and TIAI. We all agree that TMZ kicked off the Death hoax, and were basically the narrators of it. They are also a tabloid, which MJ referred to as garbage, which we saw lots of in various MJ-death-hoax related scenes including Carolwood, Forest Lawn, and the courtroom. Pretty much every interview I've seen or heard with MJ, he would make sure to tell us that the tabloids are garbage. They are a mixture of truth and lies, and so we are left with the task of discerning truth from error, which TS was also about (slippery).
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ5xLPmG7Mk[/youtube]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/touchedbya.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/sarahliabo.jpg)
Here TMZ alters a pic of MJ's History album cover, putting a remote control in his hand. So MJ is in charge of the hoax hint?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/tmzmjhisto.jpg)
Harvey is a believer, grassy-knoll theory.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,8536.0.html
MJ at the TMZ offices or not?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/IsMJatTMZ.jpg)
TouchedByAnAngel thread about it.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8382
I'm guessing this Hoax, orchestrated and remote controlled by the greatest entertainer, will go as he directs and envisions. Can any of us dare to guess what that could be? I don't think he even wants us to know, to keep us glued to our chairs. Escapism, and in the process bringing more love into the world. Just some thoughts.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/touchedbya.jpg)
That is a cache issue, means the previous redirect was to a TMZ page. It still has the favicon cached from the previous redirect.
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Hmm... I now vaguely remember this discussion a long time ago, and I guess I forgot. :Pulling_hair:
Should I delete this post or is there any merit in it staying? :icon_e_confused:
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Can you explain in layman terms? :icon_eek: :icon_e_confused: So are you saying it's NOT proof that they are connected?
Absolutely not. It is like what browsers do. I might change something to the homepage of this website now and refresh my Google Chrome to see the result. But Chrome doesn't show the changes because it has the old website cached. I can either wait till it works, which might take a while, or I can empty my cache and will see the changes directly after that. Cache is what browsers store in their memory about a website to make it load faster. In this case, TS redirected to a TMZ article or page before, and the favicon (TMZ logo) is simply still in the cache. Really doesn't mean a thing.
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Oh, you got my post before I changed it. Thanks for the details. I guess there have been so many similar 'proofs' that have been explained away over these 3+ years, but still good to revisit certain unresolved ones.
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I'll have to watch the video later when I'm at home. I do think TMZ and TIAI are connected, their common demoninator being Michael. TMZ writes a lot of trash about Michael and the Jacksons but I'm sure it's just to create the copy and paste journalism that is so prevalent these days. Plus TMZ has retracted some of their Jackson stories a day later but the damage was done - everyone else was reporting the same stories.
Oh, I learned a new word today - favicon. Thanks Souza, lol.
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TMZ, MJ & garbage reminded me of a picture I saw. Fits in perfectly
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29300000/Our-GOD-Michael-Jackson-rare-pictures-michael-jackson-29336472-640-407.jpg)
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Behind all there is Michael..... TMZ, TIAI and other are ways that in these three years Michael used to give us clues and messages... for now can not do more ... :icon_razz:
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Behind all there is Michael..... TMZ, TIAI and other are ways that in these three years Michael used to give us clues and messages... for now can not do more ... :icon_razz:
:th_bravo: I believe so too!
TMZ don't act on their own volition. Even if TMZ are the source behind TIAI, Michael is behind all things.
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Behind all there is Michael..... TMZ, TIAI and other are ways that in these three years Michael used to give us clues and messages... for now can not do more ... :icon_razz:
I agree with you . :th_bravo:
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:icon_e_geek:Behind all there is Michael..... TMZ, TIAI and other are ways that in these three years Michael used to give us clues and messages... for now can not do more ... :icon_razz:
I agree with you . :th_bravo:
+1
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I'll have to watch the video later when I'm at home. I do think TMZ and TIAI are connected, their common demoninator being Michael. TMZ writes a lot of trash about Michael and the Jacksons but I'm sure it's just to create the copy and paste journalism that is so prevalent these days. Plus TMZ has retracted some of their Jackson stories a day later but the damage was done - everyone else was reporting the same stories.
Oh, I learned a new word today - favicon. Thanks Souza, lol.
I also, or when my internet serve for something :computer-losy-smiley: chao
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Please guys try to type: "www.thisisalsoit.com" on the address bar and you will see that TMZ appears, I don't know if I am right or it just happens to me? Maybe this is the answer to my post on the HoaxBook.
Posted on the Hoaxbook today Jan 11, 2013
sweetsunsetwithMJ → Back & Front Discussions: → FRONT: we would like you to explain us about " Complications i_ndeed" since the same word was tweeted by Paris after New Years and before you dropped your post on the old closed Front/Back thread. We are having a lack of clues/hints about the "NO BAM" of last Christmas, we are stuck on those TS' leftovers and possible DWD theory I know I am mixing both threads but since we know you are friend to "TS", lol hence your popcorn post on TIAI thread and that @MJ :nice to see you post in this thread, I am mixing both, lol. Another doubt I have is: is TS one of TMZ stuff for example the one that was wearing a TS t-shirt in one of their vids?? less
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Behind all there is Michael..... TMZ, TIAI and other are ways that in these three years Michael used to give us clues and messages... for now can not do more ... :icon_razz:
+1 :icon_cool:
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Please guys try to type: "www.thisisalsoit.com" on the address bar and you will see that TMZ appears, I don't know if I am right or it just happens to me? Maybe this is the answer to my post on the HoaxBook.
I get it too.
TMZ SUCKS.
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Please guys try to type: "www.thisisalsoit.com" on the address bar and you will see that TMZ appears, I don't know if I am right or it just happens to me? Maybe this is the answer to my post on the HoaxBook.
I get it too.
TMZ SUCKS.
TMZ is the latest TIAI re-direct. Since there is no TIAI section to the forum, it can be discussed here - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxbook/groups/topic/view/group_id/31/topic_id/78
Considering this thread here is fairly recent, this re-direct is interesting, to say the least.
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Technically, TS just found a way to make TIAI a topic of discussion on the forum.
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Exactly what I was thinking too.
So where do mods / admin wish us to post if we'd like to make comment?
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I have no idea.
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Not sure either. Trust TS to find a way around the "rules", lol.
I'm still waiting to see if something pops up on TMZ or if this is a direct reference to this thread.
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Not sure either. Trust TS to find a way around the "rules", lol.
I'm still waiting to see if something pops up on TMZ or if this is a direct reference to this thread.
My gut says the later, but knowing TMZ, we need to watch with a keen eye for anything they may post and cunningly remove...
I'm sure amongst us all there are plenty of eyes watching them.
Good team we are :icon_e_biggrin:
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Exactly what I was thinking too.
So where do mods / admin wish us to post if we'd like to make comment?
Comments about the redirect should be posted on the thread in the group on HoaxBook.
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sweetsunsetwithMJ
Another doubt I have is: is TS one of TMZ stuff for example the one that was wearing a TS t-shirt in one of their vids??
Thanks for the reminder of the possible shout-out link between TS and TMZ, the T-shirt.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/tmztsshirt.jpg)
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@MJonLine......check this latest from TMZ..... :icon_lol: Jesus was Black Right?
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_d4kclq7p/ (http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_d4kclq7p/)
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Not sure either. Trust TS to find a way around the "rules", lol.
I'm still waiting to see if something pops up on TMZ or if this is a direct reference to this thread.
If TS wanted a direct reference to this thread wouldn't TS just do a redirect to this thread? I mean the thread title pretty much says it all.
Unless I am mistaken, TS isn't banned from the Forum and can presumably redirect to whatever webpage on the internet he wants, so what is to stop redirecting to this thread and then we discuss the redirect on the HoaxBook group?
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@MJonLine......check this latest from TMZ..... :icon_lol: Jesus was Black Right?
http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_d4kclq7p/ (http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_d4kclq7p/)
RK you remembered! :icon_lol: Hey now TMZ, now you're talking! One of my favorite rants I talked many times way back on this forum. lol
But that video must have come out in Nov 2012 since the comments are dated then.
In a way this relates again to the 2 black rappers doing the Hannukah songs, with Judah Maccabiatch and Yom Kippur, which ties directly with TS's Signs and the Ark of the Covenant. All those ancient Israelites were IMO black. So I love this stuff going on!
Adi
Unless I am mistaken, TS isn't banned from the Forum and can presumably redirect to whatever webpage on the internet he wants, so what is to stop redirecting to this thread and then we discuss the redirect on the HoaxBook group?
In a way, Souza has put out a challenge to him, and it will be interesting to see how TS/Front respond, ever keeping us on our toes, or anticipating.
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Yes, you are right MJonmind. I didn't check the date of the comments. The link does appear on today's page under the story about Quenten Tarentino and Django Unchained.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/12/quentin-tarantino-django-unchained-tmz-tv/ (http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/12/quentin-tarantino-django-unchained-tmz-tv/)
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Okay...I haven't even had my coffee yet, let me come back to this one. :icon_e_confused:
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Please dear friends can you try and explain/debunk this? I have been discussing with some friends on twitter
Take a look at the time when these pics were posted by TMZ especially the History Album cover with MJ holding the remote control.
If I am not mistaken it is 1:23pm PDT time on the 25th June 2009 :affraid:
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2009/06/25/1942-jacksons-albums/images/2009/06/25/45066-michael-jackson-album-cover-0-0006-layer-11-full-jpg/
(http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q521/finfinfiona1/Michael%20Jackson/Michael%20Jackson%20hoax/45066-michael_jackson_album_cover_0_0006_Layer_11_full-480w.jpg)
Plus take a look at the time for these pics on TMZ - Remembering Michael Jackson - 10:06am PDT on the 25th June - why would TMZ want to change the times if they indeed did so? Also I checked with one of my friends with a different time zone and the times remain the same.
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2009/06/25/1941-remembering-michael-jackson/images/2009/06/25/45036-50961977-full-jpg/
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Hi finfin.......
We have always been told the phrase, "time dots".......seems quite interesting. So I feel a bit lost..........
I understand TMZ posting pictures of Michael like this after Jermaine's official announcement . I know
something was said about how TMZ announced the death earlier.....but these times stamps are way
early. A stamp of 10:06am with the headline "Remembering Michael Jackson"......really?
I remember early on there was talk about TMZ timing of things...even about pictures. But I don't remember
it being so off. And the remote? What's that all about? Interesting to revisit for sure.......seems we might
not have been lead down the garden path by a certain somebody after-all, lol. Time Dots....good one.
Thanks Finfin......great stuff to look at again!
Have a beautiful day!
LOVE
PS> the time zone PDT (Pacific Daylight Time) is -7 off Greenwich Mean Time .....it's daylight savings time of year......I have wondered
if that had a factor with the time dot stuff.....Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone
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I remember we discussed the remote controller: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,8422.0.html
But not the posting times.
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6/25/2009 1:23 PM PDT is the time they published the photo gallery.
Source code of the site says:
<p class="publish-date">
6/25/2009 1:23 PM PDT
</p>
<div class="tmz-gallery-wrapper">
<div id="tmz-gallery-right-rail-ad"></div>
<div id="tmz-gallery"></div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var galleryJson =
{
"ActiveDate": "2009-06-25T13:23:54-07:00",
"FormattedActiveDate": "6/25/2009 1:23 PM PDT",
"RecordLink": "http:\/\/www.tmz.com\/photos\/2009\/06\/25\/1942-jacksons-albums\/",
"title": "Jackson's Albums",
"description": "Jackson's Albums",
"first-publish-date": {"date":"2009-06-25 16:23:54","timezone_type":3,"timezone":"US\/Eastern"},
"adPosition3": "tmz.photos.wb.dart\/;pos=btf;boxad=3;tile=3;sz=300x250",
"adPosition5": "tmz.photos.wb.dart\/;pos=btf;boxad=5;tile=5;sz=300x250",
"thumbnail-override": "Data:#thumbnail-override.MetaValue",
"disableInterstitials": false,
"images": [
The photo was modified with an Adobe software.
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Michael Jackson with remote control ....might mean he's the puppet-master of the Alternate Reality Game, which we are playing. This signifies the hoax is entertainment for believers.
[youtube]tW7Pwq0EzPU[/youtube]
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Sarahli, that's one of so many threads I somehow missed, when they were coming thick and fast. I like one post there:
Cin_pyt
MICHAEL CONTROLLING EVERYTHING NOTHING ESCAPES THIS MAN. HE'S TELLING US I GOT EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL I CHOOSE WHEN I GIVE CLUES AND WHEN YOU GET THEM. FAST FORWARD, PAUSE, REWIND (REHASH THE OLD NEWS)
Finfin, great observation! The video I started this thread with, didn’t mention those hoaxy times that I recall.
And as usual as I reread TS's updates, he's clearly intimately knowledgable of what TMZ says hoax-wise.
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Thank you for your comments, this is all intriguing indeed!
The Remembering Michael Jackson pics times are a puzzle too, especially since the comments below are from June 2012.
@ellyd - are you able to do the source code thing again? Thanks in advance
http://www.tmz.com/photos/2009/06/25/1941-remembering-michael-jackson/images/2009/06/25/45036-50961977-full-jpg/
Also thanks to @ItsBlackItsWite on twitter for bringing to attention this interview with Harvey Levin about the scoop on 25th June :icon_e_wink: I particularly like what he says
Lemon: You broke the story before the time of death from the coroner.
Harvey: Well, before it was officially announced. We really knew this significantly before even what was going on, but this was, you know, crossing every t. We were positive when we put it up. We put it up when we were 100% positive.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/06/tmzs-harvey-levin-on-jack_n_226222.html
Also this interesting interview with Harvey
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-lewittes/harvey-levin-tells-how-tm_b_625960.html
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Displaying the source code of any page is easy. Right-click on the page you want to display in html code and select "view source code" or "view page code" . You'll get another window / tab opened containing the technical code of a web page. This should work in all browsers. In the browser menu, there's "edit / find" - with this search you may check for any expression, date, script etc in the html page code.
For the "Remembering Michael Jackson" gallery, these are some data in the code:
<p class="publish-date">
6/25/2009 10:06 AM PDT
</p>
<div class="tmz-gallery-wrapper">
<div id="tmz-gallery-right-rail-ad"></div>
<div id="tmz-gallery"></div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var galleryJson =
{
"ActiveDate": "2009-06-25T10:06:00-07:00",
"FormattedActiveDate": "6/25/2009 10:06 AM PDT",
"RecordLink": "http:\/\/www.tmz.com\/photos\/2009\/06\/25\/1941-remembering-michael-jackson\/",
"title": "Remembering Michael Jackson",
"description": "Michael Jackson",
"first-publish-date": {"date":"2009-06-25 13:06:00","timezone_type":3,"timezone":"US\/Eastern"},