Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2012 => Topic started by: GodhaschosenMJ on December 19, 2012, 09:04:35 PM
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http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397823.html#msg397823 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397823.html#msg397823)
:abouttime: :th_bravo: :LolLolLolLol:
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May the 4th be with you
:LolLolLolLol:
some pictures would be great for tired brains
Maybe the hoax doctor's touch. We need some nice solid verifications about now.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/29fuulg.png)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/20u4lf6.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/34dplxk.png)
:th_bravo: :smiley_abuv:
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I think we've just felt the 'hoax doctor's" touch. :bowdown: :bearhug:
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
No, you´re right.
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Thanks Mary.....cool - I thought I was going crazy.
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I think we've just felt the 'hoax doctor's" touch. :bowdown: :bearhug:
I_deed
:bearhug:
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:icon_eek: :affraid: :icon_bounce:
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its still the 19th here in the U.S. central time is 10:19, pst is 8:19 pm,, why is this title the dec 20?
it IS exciting tho!!!! the momment of NOW,,, :icon_mrgreen:
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Can you feel it?
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yes, i'm goin w/the damn feelin!!! lol,, i've been here before,,,, if nothin happens, i'll probably still be here,, : )
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
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This Is It! This is so exciting!!! If Michael were to come back today, Dec. 20th, the amount of Love and Happiness it would cause around the world would be more than enough to cause the "tipping point" needed to take us straight into the new Age of Aquarius (LOVE). The dark side is really pushing the fear and sadness propaganda right now. 2BAD because "my friend you ain't seen nuthin', just wait till I get through!"
WHO'S BAD?!
"We're all the same, yes the blood inside of me is inside of you...now tell me Can you feel it? Can You Feel It? CAN YOU FEEL IT?!
Yes Michael dear, I can feel it because you are just Another Part Of Me :bearhug:
Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
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We know you like it in one team. Takes away attention but not cause.
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
Of a tHeOrY or Vision
As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.
Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael
Luke 1:36
"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.
On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.
Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.
As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance.
In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.
2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.
Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!
Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.
Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!
Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.
Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.
JUSTICE........For it is already written!
From the Hold my Hand video:
The motion of the camera is UP from the underground--resurrection,
and DOWN from outer space through the clouds to earth--Messianic-like return!!
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/MJ%20related%20not%20people/reshmh.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/MJ%20related%20not%20people/cloudshmh.jpg)
I think something's going to happen in the heavens--or rather atmosphere--something visual!! Hologram!! UFO!! I just don't know but judging from what I see above--my guess! Michael visible to all earth inhabitants! Maybe too far-fetched but I guess we'll see... :affraid:
:moonwalk_:
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
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IMO More like December 22nd .... see my montages on this page ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
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IMO More like December 22nd .... see my montages on this page ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Doesnt make sense if he comes back on the weekend
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(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae337/cjcntx/TATS_zps27a816e3.jpg)
Soon and very soon we are going to see the KING!
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
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IMO More like December 22nd .... see my montages on this page ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Doesnt make sense if he comes back on the weekend
ESPECIALLY because of the weekend!!! When most people are at home WATCHING TV !!!
"[...] 2012 December 22nd - WORLD MUSIC AWARDS - will be beamed to 180 countries reaching a billion viewers [...]" http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=160237
And on the official site ^^ http://www.worldmusicawards.com/ they show a picture of Michael, apparently from the World Music Awards 1996. But look at this pic it doesn't look like Michael from that era!! more like Michael from now!! ---> http://twitpic.com/bnfgqa
I made a close up screen shot...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011.jpg)
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Simpatty:
ESPECIALLY because of the weekend!!! When most people are at home WATCHING TV !!!
"[...] 2012 December 22nd - WORLD MUSIC AWARDS - will be beamed to 180 countries reaching a billion viewers [...]" http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=160237
And on the official site ^^ http://www.worldmusicawards.com/ they show a picture of Michael, apparently from the World Music Awards 1996. But look at this pic it doesn't look like Michael from that era!! more like Michael from now!! ---> http://twitpic.com/bnfgqa
I made a close up screen shot...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011.jpg)
It is a bit hard to tell.....but looking at your close up pic compared to the video of MJ performing in 1996 at the World Music Awards (posted in the Front thread : http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432878.html#msg432878 ), his hair is longer in 1996 than what this pic looks like...and I agree what that poster said on the Facebook about the size of the crack in the world relative to where MJ is standing does not seem to match with the video from 1996 either.
If it is a recent picture of Michael he's definitely looking pretty damn fine ! :icon_bounce:
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Jesus of Nazareth is on of my all time FAVORITE movies! :) Love Hurts...good song! LOL I remember the days my Mother kept stealing my Hair of The Dog album. Hahahahaha!
I too am visual...thanks for the pics Front! :bearhug:
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Am I the only one who read 12/21? :D
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Can you feel it?
:woohoo2: Yeah!
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Anyone noticed that in the slideshow of www.worldmusicawards.com there is also a picture of someone (maybe a known artist, I don't know, I've been living in a cage these past few years) performing Thriller?
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Anyone noticed that in the slideshow of www.worldmusicawards.com there is also a picture of someone (maybe a known artist, I don't know, I've been living in a cage these past few years) performing Thriller?
Yeah - I did notice that. It is Chris Brown.
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Also - Chris Brown did a really wonderful tribute to Michael Jackson at the 2010 BET awards......I remember the performance being scrutinised (hoax-wise) with a fine tooth comb back then:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1zoD78cQU[/youtube]
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Oh yes, Chris Brown. I do know him, but didn't recognize him in this picture (it's morning over here and I had a rather sleepless night because one of my kids was feeling ill so I'm not my sharp self :icon_mrgreen:).
I find it interesting because there are not so many pictures in the slideshow of the World Music Awards and two of them refer to MJ. They could have easily picked a picture of an artist performing his/her own song, but they didn't.
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
I think it is purposefully changed...to let us know he's gonna be BACK on November 20. I remember TS_comments saying that BAM will be according to the Californian time....
I'm expecting a BAM at 12:21 am, CA time...
Night because :
(http://i39.tinypic.com/29fuulg.png)
Remember Sign #6 : (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.html)
"As a thief in the night"
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Oh yes, Chris Brown. I do know him, but didn't recognize him in this picture (it's morning over here and I had a rather sleepless night because one of my kids was feeling ill so I'm not my sharp self :icon_mrgreen:).
I find it interesting because there are not so many pictures in the slideshow of the World Music Awards and two of them refer to MJ. They could have easily picked a picture of an artist performing his/her own song, but they didn't.
What's interesting is that Michael's picture was among those who are "ALIVE", the living ones
Chris Brown performing "Thriller" (i think it was in 2006) could possible mean rising from the dead....
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
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IMO More like December 22nd .... see my montages on this page ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Sim You said, anything is possible, stay calm, and if anything happens, I'll stay here until it's time :woohoo2:
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
I think it is purposefully changed...to let us know he's gonna be BACK on November 20. I remember TS_comments saying that BAM will be according to the Californian time....
I'm expecting a BAM at 12:21 am, CA time.
Night because :
(http://i39.tinypic.com/29fuulg.png)
Remember Sign #6 : (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.html)
"As a thief in the night
That means at the 12.21.2012 at 12:21 AM ? :omg:
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Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Looks like 12:21 is the crux momment of history, that will ‘right wrongs’, turn ‘lies to truth’, be ‘resurrection from crucifixion’, all for ‘LOVE’!
Modern day equivalent of Jesus' resurrection!
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IMO More like December 22nd .... see my montages on this page ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Sim You said, anything is possible, stay calm, and if anything happens, I'll stay here until it's time :woohoo2:
YEP marumjj :icon_e_wink:
I think it's now safe for me to say that we can expect a possible BAM this December 22nd, with Michael showing up alive during or at the end of the "World Music Awards 2012". I think we should find any info and links about how we can watch this event live on the Internet, We need to find out the exact time when this starts, bear in mind the time difference from our own countries compared to Miami where WMA2012 takes place. Pls share any live streaming links you find. If he doesn't BAM on Dec 22nd, then we can still hope by January 1st, 2013 which is the BAM-deadline given by TS. But according to all the clues and Paris tweets, I think there's a higher possibility to see Michael on December 22nd!! Let's pray for him and for this moment to be perfect as he wants to!! Blessings to everyone!! :bearhug:
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:woohoo2: We will be there for you!! :bearhug:
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Yes, you are right....the World Musik Awards shows Michael, when he step out of earth and one group performs Thriller...i saw the pics at the HP:
http://www.worldmusicawards.com/#
It gets more exiting...but what we expect ? I rearly don't know what will happen....i only hope that everything gets peacefull und safe !
Love you more ! :icon_bounce:
Tickets :
http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=7387883&agency=MIA_MUSIC
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What TV channel and what time is World music awards gonna air ??
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But...dosn't the clock say 20 ? 20.12. ?
Outside is written : Now the Moment 20 and that was where the hand is and the other at 12. Why should he written the number 20 there when that is not a sign ?
I get stupid..... :compute:
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But...dosn't the clock say 20 ? 20.12. ?
Outside is written : Now the Moment 20 and that was where the hand is and the other at 12. Why should he written the number 20 there when that is not a sign ?
I get stupid..... :compute:
It´s not "20" it´s "of" -----> the momment of now
:bearhug:
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But...dosn't the clock say 20 ? 20.12. ?
Outside is written : Now the Moment 20 and that was where the hand is and the other at 12. Why should he written the number 20 there when that is not a sign ?
I get stupid..... :compute:
It´s not "20" it´s "of" -----> the momment of now
:bearhug:
oops..... :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
yeah thought that was weird too... :icon_e_confused:
moving on, does anyone think that MJ looks like he is wearing glasses in that photo? i see a feint outline of glasses, but don't know if I am seeing things.
I am really tired after my 'end of year' work party :affraid:
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I take this redirect to mean TS is validating Front, and oh my goodness how stunned I was to see that handwriting.
Now I have to catch up on all Front-related posts. thank goodness im still in time for the Bam. GO MICHAEL! :michael_jackson-1135:
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This Is It! This is so exciting!!! If Michael were to come back today, Dec. 20th, the amount of Love and Happiness it would cause around the world would be more than enough to cause the "tipping point" needed to take us straight into the new Age of Aquarius (LOVE). The dark side is really pushing the fear and sadness propaganda right now. 2BAD because "my friend you ain't seen nuthin', just wait till I get through!"
WHO'S BAD?!
"We're all the same, yes the blood inside of me is inside of you...now tell me Can you feel it? Can You Feel It? CAN YOU FEEL IT?!
Yes Michael dear, I can feel it because you are just Another Part Of Me :bearhug:
Blessed to have been,
Touched By An Angel
@Angel...so nice to see you posting :icon_razz: Yes, the 'other' side has been cranking it up lately...fear and sadness reached a fever pitch Friday, it's been 24/7 since then. I see it as a 'sign' of desperation on 'their' part....'they' aren't going down without a fight. But the 'darkness', while temporarily blinding, doesn't stand a chance when confronted with LOVE. A 'reappearance' would cause a worldwide infusion of love that would i_deed be the 'tipping point' that is desperately needed right now.
This redirect has been, yet another, light amid the darkness for me...thanks TS.
I sure can feel it....and I've got my arms flung up in the air right now on what feels like a 'peak' of this rollercoaster ride....with eyes wide open, NO fear.
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/isabellaloveswaldo/Moving%20graphocs/th_rollercoaster.gif)
@Mike...be blessed and KNOW that you are LOVEd :icon_razz:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I take this redirect to mean TS is validating Front, and oh my goodness how stunned I was to see that handwriting.
It's not so much about validation. Front has been validated long enough so far.
It's about the word RESURRECTION!
We need to connect the dots we've received today about RESURRECTION from 4 different official sources:
1. Paris - tweeter
2. MJ Official Facebook page
3. TIAI redirect December 20th
4. The official WMA 2012 site
see links in the quote below
Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
How can HE be any clearer than that!??
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
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There was another clock picture that Front posted, hands pointing to 12:21.
12-21-12 --> 333
Bam date?
Would need a 666 to make 999
Or 444 to make 777.
4:44? Bam time?
But how? World Music Awards is on the 22nd.
Youtube? A worldwide platform- through a will-be viral video?
TIAIrevealed account?
Some of the mad possibilities running through my head now.
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BTC, Sim and all my hoax family.........I am utterly humbled and truly speechless at not only this redirect, but like Sim said, the 4 other sources that seem to tie in so well....such timing of it all. I have no idea what to expect in even the coming hours now.......but I do know I'll be here, among friends that I have been blessed with. BTC....it's rollercoaster ride like no other.........I am not a huge fan of rides like that, but this one has been the best.......eyes wide open for sure!
TS, by you redirecting to Front's words, I feel a certain message...... more than just validation. I feel a true sense of hope, of the understanding that we are here as one, for a purpose. Perhaps our purpose has yet to be discovered, but it doesn't matter what it is......I am ready for it. I stand with my family here, my hoax family of beLIevers......the message of LOVE that Michael lives for will shine like there is no tomorrow..........there will always be a tomorrow when love is involved. Things may change in the next few hours, few days.....whatever will be, will be. It's all good as far as I am concerned. I hold Michael's hand, as he holds mine. It's been darkest before the dawn, trembling fears and wondering minds....yet, through it all.....you have been here, Front has been here and we have learned much. I'll take this time to say thank you once again......
Look to those evening stars, they will always shine brightly on the soul who cares..........
Blessings and LOVE to all.....always!
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@JukeBox: December 21st + ONE DAY of SIMMERING! Remember?
And then watch this: We had the date December 22nd since June 2009 !!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam006.jpg)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=23357.0
AND there were many other CLUES pointing to December 22nd!
See below:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam005.jpg)
---> TIAI November 11 (11-11-11) - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg431150.html#msg431150
---> Official back & Front thread - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg429875.html#msg429875
---> TIAI August 17, 2011 - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.msg348767.html#msg348767
---> TIAI December 10, 2012 - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23510.msg432152.html#msg432152
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@SimPattyK thanks for the links! Those dates are definitely possibilities too. Could today (20th) be the day of simmering? Regardless, BAM is coming I am SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!@!! :icon_geek:
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12/21/2012 on this side of Planet Earth now ..... (we also have the 1 day of "simmering" to account for the differences in time zones) :icon_e_ugeek:
I love rollercoasters........the scarier the better.......it's those revolting spinning & rotating rides that do nothing but go round and round in the same circles that make me vomit....hahahaha
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What can I say apart from cool redirect! :icon_rr: :icon_lol:
There was another clock picture that Front posted, hands pointing to 12:21.
12-21-12 --> 333
Bam date?
Would need a 666 to make 999
Or 444 to make 777.
4:44? Bam time?
But how? World Music Awards is on the 22nd.
Youtube? A worldwide platform- through a will-be viral video?
TIAIrevealed account?
Some of the mad possibilities running through my head now.
I have thought of that one too. :LolLolLolLol:
Yes the other clock exactly at 12:21: http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/33600/33615/clock-12-21_33615_lg.gif
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I've been trying to find some links that will be streaming the WMA's. All I can find is that there are several mentions on google results that say it will be on UStream at 8pm. But I can't find any reference to it on the UStream website.
We know that 11:11 was/is important, along with all the other numbers/dates/times throughout this adventure. I just did a quick search on my tv listings to see if the awards are 2 or 3 hours long (they always tend to go a bit over-time...so if they are 3 hours, they might still be on at 11:11 pm lol) but I can't even find a listing for them on any channel :over-react-smiley:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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Simpatty:
ESPECIALLY because of the weekend!!! When most people are at home WATCHING TV !!!
"[...] 2012 December 22nd - WORLD MUSIC AWARDS - will be beamed to 180 countries reaching a billion viewers [...]" http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=160237
And on the official site ^^ http://www.worldmusicawards.com/ they show a picture of Michael, apparently from the World Music Awards 1996. But look at this pic it doesn't look like Michael from that era!! more like Michael from now!! ---> http://twitpic.com/bnfgqa
I made a close up screen shot...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011.jpg)
It is a bit hard to tell.....but looking at your close up pic compared to the video of MJ performing in 1996 at the World Music Awards (posted in the Front thread : http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg432878.html#msg432878 ), his hair is longer in 1996 than what this pic looks like...and I agree what that poster said on the Facebook about the size of the crack in the world relative to where MJ is standing does not seem to match with the video from 1996 either.
If it is a recent picture of Michael he's definitely looking pretty damn fine ! :icon_bounce:
thats an old picture of michael okay! You can't see his hair, you can see his face
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Whatever happens I want look at it, I have a lot of work(http://www.msnanimal.cl/emoticons/trabajo_estudio_u/emoticons_trabajando_estudio_msnanimal_com-9.gif) :-[
(http://static.quepasa.cl/20120920/1620583.jpg)
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Is it just me, or does the redirect now come to this thread instead of the original post by Front which GodhaschosenMJ pasted the link to?
I just typed in thisisalsoit.com into my address bar and it came here.
I think it is purposefully changed...to let us know he's gonna be BACK on November 20. I remember TS_comments saying that BAM will be according to the Californian time....
I'm expecting a BAM at 12:21 am, CA time.
Night because :
(http://i39.tinypic.com/29fuulg.png)
Remember Sign #6 : (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c14-8ec7f569-8a9e-4aa6-80c0-ca05249193ce.html)
"As a thief in the night
That means at the 12.21.2012 at 12:21 AM ? :omg:
PM!
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I hope he doesnt com back on a stupid music award show, that would be a the lamest comeback ever! He made comeback on the stage many of times, now its time to do something different. IMHO his bam would like this [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY[/youtube] and then he ends up taking off his mask at the end of the speech. Best comeback ever! :th_bravo:
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I hope he doesnt com back on a stupid music award show, that would be a the lamest comeback ever! He made comeback on the stage many of times, now its time to do something different. IMHO his bam would like this [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY[/youtube] and then he ends up taking off his mask at the end of the speech. Best comeback ever! :th_bravo:
Well, he'll BAM in a way which he thinks is the most appropriate...we don't really have a say in this, imo...though I kinda agree with you...
Coming back on a music award show would emphasize that he still is involved in the music industry, which is not what the hoax is about. I don't think it would really bring out the 'social cause' and 'social awareness' aspect of the hoax. The medium of BAM does matter, IMO.
If Michael BAMS in an award show, the general public would again start judging Michael and claim that he is a cheater and he fooled his own fans. If this hoax is a sting on media and the general public (which it definitely is!), the BAM should leave the audience in a desire to know more, and in a state of alarm which would lead to introspection.
Now, if award show is the medium of comeback, then i don't how it's all gonna unfold....there are certain things going on in my mind right now:
1) Michael and other celebrities warn people/audience about TPTB .
2) Michael himself is with TPTB <--- (which i don't think is possible)
..................IDK ....maybe not the award show....
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I hope he doesnt com back on a stupid music award show, that would be a the lamest comeback ever! He made comeback on the stage many of times, now its time to do something different. IMHO his bam would like this [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY[/youtube] and then he ends up taking off his mask at the end of the speech. Best comeback ever! :th_bravo:
Well, he'll BAM in a way which he thinks is the most appropriate...we don't really have a say in this, imo...though I kinda agree with you...
Coming back on a music award show would emphasize that he still is involved in the music industry, which is not what the hoax is about. I don't think it would really bring out the 'social cause' and 'social awareness' aspect of the hoax. The medium of BAM does matter, IMO.
If Michael BAMS in an award show, the general public would again start judging Michael and claim that he is a cheater and he fooled his own fans. If this hoax is a sting on media and the general public (which it definitely is!), the BAM should leave the audience in a desire to know more, and in a state of alarm which would lead to introspection.
Now, if award show is the medium of comeback, then i don't how it's all gonna unfold....there are certain things going on in my mind right now:
1) Michael and other celebrities warn people/audience about TPTB .
2) Michael himself is with TPTB <--- (which i don't think is possible)
..................IDK ....maybe not the award show....
Exactly!!!!!
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Whichever way the Bam! is supposed to happen I don’t think that Michael will talk about TPTB in a straightforward manner. Not during Bam’s day anyway, because I remember how this subject has been acknowledged in the hoax community -- with difficulty. It must be a sort of piece by piece process too. People aren’t going to become “aware” in the blink of an eye. It’s true that time is always running out so it’s something that must have been thought out thoroughly in order for this awakening to be efficient in all levels, as much as it can be anyway. There will still be people who refuse the truth. Just my opinion of course.
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I take this redirect to mean TS is validating Front, and oh my goodness how stunned I was to see that handwriting.
It's not so much about validation. Front has been validated long enough so far.
It's about the word RESURRECTION!
We need to connect the dots we've received today about RESURRECTION from 4 different official sources:
1. Paris - tweeter
2. MJ Official Facebook page
3. TIAI redirect December 20th
4. The official WMA 2012 site
see links in the quote below
Besides Paris tweeting (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459395730784116&set=a.387841297939560.84320.197418280315197&type=1&theater) lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151294843186473&set=a.108910151472.86254.19691681472&type=1&theater) ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23523.0/topicseen.html)
How can HE be any clearer than that!??
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html
Oh Sim I'm so pissed off right now I could just scream!
I finally spent all day yesterday catching up and weeding out 88 emails because I haven't been on the computer for over a week. Today was my day to catch up on reading the forum and post, but my husband decided to change computers and hasn't switched any of my files, Notes emails or anything over to the other computer so I'm stuck having to do all this on my smart ass phone s damn impossible!! The screen keeps moving and changing format it won't let me correct words! :Pulling_hair: :computer-losy-smiley:
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Whichever way the Bam! is supposed to happen I don’t think that Michael will talk about TPTB in a straightforward manner. Not during Bam’s day anyway, because I remember how this subject has been acknowledged in the hoax community -- with difficulty. It must be a sort of piece by piece process too. People aren’t going to become “aware” in the blink of an eye. It’s true that time is always running out so it’s something that must have been thought out thoroughly in order for this awakening to be efficient in all levels, as much as it can be anyway. There will still be people who refuse the truth. Just my opinion of course.
It's true...everything has to be gradual. Events must raise suspicion in people's minds and then must let them investigate themselves. But BAMing on Music award show only makes me think of these two possibilities. What else must be the reason? If MJ's comeback happens in a straight-forward manner with a musical performance...there will be least public acceptance. Or Michael would appear on stage and give a long speech? this doesn't seem plausible to me.
What I want to say is that I don't think the BAM will happen in an award show and that's why maybe not on 22nd.... :icon_e_confused:
And because this redirect had been again redirected to this very redirect ( :icon_lol: ) , the bam will happen on 20th/21st (because time zones differ across the world) .....and maybe THEN the public performance, though it would be highly dangerous for his safety...
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World Music Awards cancelled two days before Dec. 22 show
Read it on Global News: Global Toronto | World Music Awards cancelled two days before Dec. 22 show
http://www.globaltoronto.com/entertainment/world+music+awards+cancelled+two+days+before+dec+22+show/6442775970/story.html
TORONTO - Organizers have pulled the plug on the World Music Awards (WMAs), which were scheduled to be staged Saturday in Miami.
Several Canadians, including Justin Bieber, Drake and deadmau5 were nominated for the WMAs.
Producers announced Thursday the show won't go on as planned at Marlins Park Stadium.
"We are sorry for any inconvenience but this decision had to be made due to logistical and multiple visa issues and in view of this week's national mourning," reads a statement. "Fans have been a great support to the artists and have voted online in huge numbers."
Canadian nominees also included Carly Rae Jepsen, Nickelback, Bryan Adams and Michael Buble.
News that the WMAs were moving to Miami came just weeks before the show, raising eyebrows in the music industry. Organizers also started selling tickets without announcing any performers or presenters.
A press release issued on December 13 said the WMAs would raise funds for Superstorm Sandy victims in Haiti and "be beamed to 180 countries reaching a billion viewers." It also implied Jennifer Lopez would attend -- even though she will be performing a sold-out concert in Puerto Rico on the night of the WMAs.
"Jennifer Lopez has already confirmed her support for the cause and will receive a special World Music Award," read the release, "and also enter into the Guinness World Records for having the Most Viewed Female Video of All Time."
The same press release stated Tony Bennett would perform a Latin duet with a surprise guest on the WMAs and other guests would include Gloria Estefan, Italian pop star Tiziano Ferro and Chinese superstar Han Geng.
Contacted by Global News on Tuesday, the WMAs Miami-based publicist Brandi Kolosky said the show's "major talent" would be announced "just 2-3 days leading up to the ceremony."
The WMAs were staged annually at the Casino d'Monte Carlo from 1989 to 2003 before moving to Las Vegas, Los Angeles, London and Cote d'Azur. They returned to Monte Carlo in 2008 and 2010 but were not held in 2009 or 2011. Mariah Carey holds the record for the most WMAs, earning 17. Celine Dion was honoured with the Chopard Diamond Award in 2004.
© Global News. A division of Shaw Media Inc., 2012.
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December 20, 2012
World Music Awards sham canceled, uses Sandy Hook tragedy as excuse
Read more here: http://blogs.herald.com/scene_in_the_tropics/2012/12/world-music-awards-sham-canceled-uses-sandy-hook-tragedy-as-excuse.html#storylink=cpy
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Whichever way the Bam! is supposed to happen I don’t think that Michael will talk about TPTB in a straightforward manner. Not during Bam’s day anyway, because I remember how this subject has been acknowledged in the hoax community -- with difficulty. It must be a sort of piece by piece process too. People aren’t going to become “aware” in the blink of an eye. It’s true that time is always running out so it’s something that must have been thought out thoroughly in order for this awakening to be efficient in all levels, as much as it can be anyway. There will still be people who refuse the truth. Just my opinion of course.
It's true...everything has to be gradual. Events must raise suspicion in people's minds and then must let them investigate themselves. But BAMing on Music award show only makes me think of these two possibilities. What else must be the reason? If MJ's comeback happens in a straight-forward manner with a musical performance...there will be least public acceptance. Or Michael would appear on stage and give a long speech? this doesn't seem plausible to me.
What I want to say is that I don't think the BAM will happen in an award show and that's why maybe not on 22nd.... :icon_e_confused:
And because this redirect had been again redirected to this very redirect ( :icon_lol: ) , the bam will happen on 20th/21st (because time zones differ across the world) .....and maybe THEN the public performance, though it would be highly dangerous for his safety...
I guess you are right, it's not going to happen there! :LolLolLolLol:
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That is WEIRD for sure! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/grosse-surprise-32.gif)
I wonder why they decided only now to cancel WMA 2012 for the Sandy Hook victims? Why not that day or the next days , immediately after? Why did they wait till now? :animal0017:
Tks Sarahli!
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That is WEIRD for sure! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/grosse-surprise-32.gif)
I wonder why they decided only now to cancel WMA 2012 for the Sandy Hook victims? Why not that day or the next days , immediately after? Why did they wait till now? :animal0017:
Tks Sarahli!
You're welcome, sorry to bring this news though lol. It's very suspicious indeed, a lot of supense and intrigue going on! :suspect:
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Whichever way the Bam! is supposed to happen I don’t think that Michael will talk about TPTB in a straightforward manner. Not during Bam’s day anyway, because I remember how this subject has been acknowledged in the hoax community -- with difficulty. It must be a sort of piece by piece process too. People aren’t going to become “aware” in the blink of an eye. It’s true that time is always running out so it’s something that must have been thought out thoroughly in order for this awakening to be efficient in all levels, as much as it can be anyway. There will still be people who refuse the truth. Just my opinion of course.
It's true...everything has to be gradual. Events must raise suspicion in people's minds and then must let them investigate themselves. But BAMing on Music award show only makes me think of these two possibilities. What else must be the reason? If MJ's comeback happens in a straight-forward manner with a musical performance...there will be least public acceptance. Or Michael would appear on stage and give a long speech? this doesn't seem plausible to me.
What I want to say is that I don't think the BAM will happen in an award show and that's why maybe not on 22nd.... :icon_e_confused:
And because this redirect had been again redirected to this very redirect ( :icon_lol: ) , the bam will happen on 20th/21st (because time zones differ across the world) .....and maybe THEN the public performance, though it would be highly dangerous for his safety...
I guess you are right, it's not going to happen there! :LolLolLolLol:
Yup! So bam going to happen either today or tomorrow?/?!!
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The sooner the better :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
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Maybe we should wait for more confirmations to know if it's really cancelled; just saw that they don't mention anything on their twitter: https://twitter.com/WMAsofficial
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How was it determined in the first place that this award show might be important?
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Looks like a lot of us! LOL :D
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I am so glad I have a place to share my excitement with! Just yesterday my 20 year old son said he really hoped angels would descend from the sky on the 21st because the world just can't go on any longer like it is.
I'm so excited I just can't stand it. And what an amazing trick used against the dark side. To create a fiction that revealed the truth about us. That we are more love than fear. Something I have found out about myself as well. Thank you, Michael. We love you bunches for sure, but you really do love us more!
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World Music Awards @WMAsofficial
Gotye had a smash hit this year, will you be voting for him for Best Song? http://bit.ly/worldmusicawards … http://fb.me/244gwev1p 2h
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How was it determined in the first place that this award show might be important?
check this link out : http://www.worldmusicawards.com/
u can see Michael's image...
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Thanks, Thriller. So is it just because of that pic?
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There are a lot of clues pointing to December 21st and December 22nd... numerology clues, @Mindseye and me discussed a bit here:
--> TIAI November 11 (11-11-11) - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg431150.html#msg431150 [ repli #3491, #3493]
---> Official back & Front thread - http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg429875.html#msg429875
Then based on Front wishing us a "necessary early" Merry Christmas...as if something was on the way before ....
Then we had that Paris twit with the lyrics of the song "I miss you" and the line "And we shall have Halloween on Christmas"...
Then it just "happened" that the WMA 2012 were supposed to take place on December 22nd. And on the official website, there are several pics related to Michael, including Chris Tucker and his Thriller dance and a photo of Michael that looks like it was from the WMA 1996 (Earth Song) , but actually if you compare the screen shots, it's not the same Michael.... The Michael from the WMA 2012 site looks different from WMA 1996. There's a good comparison pic posted by MjonMind with lots of differences she pointed out , here http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15625.html
And then there's also this...which caught my attention to the same date of December 22nd.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam006.jpg)
Several other people on Facebook discussed the same things...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam008fff.jpg)
So IMO these are things much too coincidental to be ignored. The point is... it doesn't matter whether it's December 22nd or January 1st.... Michael is going to RESURRECT...we had it confirmed from so many official sources.
Now IDK what to make of this unexpected twist with the WMA 2012 being cancelled....
Maybe we should wait to see if it's confirmed, as Sarahli suggested... IDK
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What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning. When this goes down it will be considered a ressurection,next thing could be a revolution = takeover. Wake up the people little by little until we are all one. Bam,the government is supposed to work for the people,not against us. Let the show begin,we are here as we have been for so long let the truth unveil. :michael_jackson-1135:
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Thanks, Thriller. So is it just because of that pic?
Yup , Bec...that's the only thing. Plus, i found it interesting how they used Michael's image among those who are "alive"...
i know this is all speculation...
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There was a shit ton of numerology pointing to 11/30/11 as well as 12/6/12... and so many dates before both of those. Lots of dates in July of every year, October too. Just sayin'.
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why relate a " BAM " with World Music Awards :icon_question:
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:icon_e_surprised: :thjajaja121: :michael_jackson-1135: :moonwalk_: :elvis-1405: :affraid: :bearhug: :fresse: :computer-losy-smiley: :th_bravo: :ghsdf: :compute: :icon_albino: :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
:icon_neutral: :suspect:
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why relate a " BAM " with World Music Awards :icon_question:
I personally think people are feeling that the BAM needs to take place on a huge stage for the whole world to see. But i have learned from my own predictions is that noone will really truly know until it happens,thats why it will be such a shock. Even for us who have suspected that he is really alive.
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Maybe we should wait for more confirmations to know if it's really cancelled; just saw that they don't mention anything on their twitter: https://twitter.com/WMAsofficial
It's weird I also checked the official WMA 2012 Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/officialWMA
and their Official site - news section - http://www.worldmusicawards.com/#!news/c13ti
And there's NOTHING there either.
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I tried to purchase a ticket and it said: this event is not currently available for sale on line, try to contact customer service, I contacted them and I got this:
Order Tracking (KMM2186773V49536L0KM)
Hello Raquel,
Thank you for contacting Tickets.com.
Unfortunately we do not have information at this time. Please continue
to check back with us.
Thank you for visiting Tickets.com.
Lena
Consumer Services
Customer Name: RAQUEL
Email:
Phone number: 673455675 (it's false, lol)
Event Name: WMA
Venue Name: MARLINS
Performance Date: 12/22/2012
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:WTF: Why aren't the tickets sold online ? can't think of a plausible explanation but something is happening behind the scenes , that's for sure !!
On one hand , I don't want Michael to BAM on WMA's stage because it won't give muh value to the REAL reasons why Michael actually hoaxed his death , but I learned that it's not what I want that matters , it is all about what Michael wants !! I trust in him , and whatever he decides , it must be the right thing .
On the other hand , I think we should really stop anticipating things .
" Randy Jackson Jr. @randyjacksonjr
Re-examine all you have been told.. "
All that we've been told by whom ? the media ? the insiders ? the Jackson Family? Front/ Ts ?
I don't wanna sound like a broken record or a party pooper but " High expectations lead to disappointment " and we don't wanna see that happen , do we ?
love
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I really, really, really hope we have a pleasant surprise in store but I am not feeling it. For some reason I just can't work it out in my brain but I have been known to be wrong more than once. I am here to the end and am praying hard for a happy ending very soon. For good measure I will cross my fingers and toes too :)
Blessings to you all. Merry Christmas!
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I haven't posted forever, and I'm not sure how to post a link from my phone (it's "smarter" than me lol), just I just read that the WMAs have been cancelled. Do you think the powers that be are trying to prevent his BAM? By the way, hi everyone :) I never left, just got quiet :)
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Hey guess what? On the pic that flashes right before MJ stepping out of the earth center,
is a pic of Carlos Santana. He's the one who said MJ was Michael the Archangel!
Guess what picture is on a stand right behind him? A pic of of so-called Jesus from the Shroud of Turin.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/carlossant.jpg)
Edit add:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4wVxUc5qZME/SsF_liLoRyI/AAAAAAAAAJg/_CybCZzfq8w/s320/shroud_of_turin_250px.jpg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-05/santana-lauds-angel-michael-jackson-leads-love-chant-at-concert-review.html
Louis Farrakhan calls it the Crucifixion of Michael Jackson in this video series, and apparently in one of them calls MJ The Archangel (if someone finds it great). Interesting that his view is that Jesus of 2000 years ago is a different person than the coming Messiah prophesised to come in the last days (like Back says). At 1:20 he says, “There was something divine about this brother (MJ).”
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzN3kR9Bo2w&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
6:40 “Crucifixion in modern Rome.”
8:37 J. Edgar Hoover’s Counter Intelligence program was to prevent the arising of a Messianic black person who would rally blacks against 'THEM'. (Perhaps that’s why Schmuley tried so hard to make fun of MJ having a “messiah complex”. Ugh…)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wls6AYrWjOc[/youtube]
Did 'THEY' know that the true Jesus had been, and Messiah of the future would be black? http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/
If anyone has the time to watch all 8 of the videos to glean more that would be great!
And Rev. June Gatlin called MJ, 'The Prince of Peace', a Biblical title for the Messiah from Isaiah.
Also remember how MJ's supposed autopsy body had this same image of the shroud Jesus on his abdomen.
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Sim
December 21st + ONE DAY of SIMMERING! Remember?
Thriller4ever
Remember Sign #6
1 Thessalonians 5:2-6, “…the day of the Lord so cometh as A THIEF IN THE NIGHT [by surprise].
PM!
And remember Ellyd collected all TS Sign's coloured posts?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23454.msg427432.html#msg427432
Jacilovesmichael, nice to see you again!
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that was brilliant MJonmind...
BTW...that Remember sign post? was mine .... LOL! :icon_lol:
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Hey guess what? On the pic that flashes right before MJ stepping out of the earth center,
is a pic of Carlos Santana. He's the one who said MJ was Michael the Archangel!
Guess what picture is on a stand right behind him? A pic of of so-called Jesus from the Shroud of Turin.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/carlossant.jpg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-05/santana-lauds-angel-michael-jackson-leads-love-chant-at-concert-review.html
Louis Farrakhan calls it the Crucifixion of Michael Jackson in this video series, and apparently in one of them calls MJ The Archangel (if someone finds it great). Interesting that his view is that Jesus of 2000 years ago is a different person than the coming Messiah prophesised to come in the last days (like Back says). At 1:20 he says, “There was something divine about this brother (MJ).”
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzN3kR9Bo2w&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
6:40 “Crucifixion in modern Rome.”
8:37 J. Edgar Hoover’s Counter Intelligence program was to prevent the arising of a Messianic black person who would rally blacks against 'THEM'. (Perhaps that’s why Schmuley tried so hard to make fun of MJ having a “messiah complex”. Ugh…)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wls6AYrWjOc[/youtube]
Did 'THEY' know that the true Jesus had been, and Messiah of the future would be black? http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/
If anyone has the time to watch all 8 of the videos to glean more that would be great!
And Rev. June Gatlin called MJ, 'The Prince of Peace', a Biblical title for the Messiah from Isaiah.
Also remember how MJ's supposed autopsy body had this same image of the shroud Jesus on his abdomen.
thank you so much for that info about Carlos Santana vs. MJ ! very interesting for sure! lets wait for the outcome together!! :)
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@MJonMind: you RULEEZZZZ !! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/number-one-respect-953.gif) :th_bravo:
Maybe we should wait for more confirmations to know if it's really cancelled; just saw that they don't mention anything on their twitter: https://twitter.com/WMAsofficial
It's weird I also checked the official WMA 2012 Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/officialWMA
and their Official site - news section - http://www.worldmusicawards.com/#!news/c13ti
And there's NOTHING there either.
STILL NO OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION of the so-called "cancellation"! ;D
In the meantime....
Here's something OFFICIAL:
---> https://twitter.com/WMAsofficial/status/280942847186837504
---> http://www.ustream.tv/WorldMusicAwards
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma001szs.jpg)
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Sim, it seems that it is going to take a place, lets hope for it! december, 22 is very close, we will see! I hope we will be able to watch that event online :icon_razz:
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If this isn't enough evidence to convince all of BAM today, I don't know what is!!!!!!!
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
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^^^^ :icon_albino:
bang bang....bam bam :icon_cool:
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If the internet crashes, for whatever reason :affraid: :icon_lol:, we can live/love without it! Have a great day everyone and happy holidays!
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Randy Jackson Jr. @randyjacksonjr
THE BEGINNING.
9:00 AM - 21 Dez 12
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Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson
December 21st is probably gonna be the most annoying day in internet history
Bang Bang
1. It's either a "backwards" statement by negating the truth.
In that case, Paris twit translates into:
"December 21st is probably gonna be the most EXCITING (BAM ?) day in internet history" :affraid: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
OR
2. December 21st it's gonna be indeed BORING because nothing will happen today... hinting maybe towards the "calm" before the "storm" (BAM) of the next day? IDK....
WHATEVER that means, I love this twit!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :woohoo2:
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@Jam4truth ....thnks!! i wish he really meant Michael's new beginning...
@Sim...now that's a very good interpretation :icon_e_wink:
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If the internet crashes, for whatever reason :affraid: :icon_lol:, we can live/love without it! Have a great day everyone and happy holidays!
Agree!
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I have this to share...
Paris's 'Bang Bang' tweet could also relate to the 'Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang' movie about a magical car....
The title track has these lyrics :
(http://grabilla.com/02c15-fdf49619-84d8-491e-88c4-9ab06a6332db.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-fdf49619-84d8-491e-88c4-9ab06a6332db.html)
Also from the movie soundtrack is another song called "Roses of Success"...below are the lyrics :
Every bursted bubble has a glory!
Each abysmal failure makes a point!
Every glowing path that goes astray,
Shows you how to find a better way.
So every time you stumble never grumble.
Next time you'll bumble even less!
For up from the ashes, up from the ashes, grow the roses of success!
Grow the roses!
Grow the roses!
Grow the roses of success!
Oh yes!
Grow the roses!
Those rosy roses!
From the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success!
(spoken)Yes I know but he wants it to float. It will!
For every big mistake you make be grateful!
Here, here!
That mistake you'll never make again!
No sir!
Every shiny dream that fades and dies,
Generates the steam for two more tries!
(Oh) There's magic in the wake of a fiasco!
Correct!
It gives you that chance to second guess!
Oh yes!
Then up from the ashes, up from the ashes grow the roses of success!
Grow the roses!
Grow the roses!
Grow the roses of success!
Grow the roses!
Those rosy roses!
From the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success!
Disaster didn't stymie Louis Pasteur!
No sir!
Edison took years to see the light!
Right!
Alexander Graham knew failure well; he took a lot of knocks to ring that
bell!
So when it gets distressing it's a blessing!
Onward and upward you must press!
Yes, Yes!
Till up from the ashes, up from the ashes grow the roses of success.
Grow the ro
Grow the ro
Grow the roses!
Grow the ro
Grow the ro
Grow the roses!
Grow the roses of success!
Grow the ro
Grow the ro
Grow the roses!
Those rosy ro
Those rosy ro
Those rosy roses!
From the ashes of disaster, grow the roses of success!
Start the engines!
Success!
Batten the hatches!
Success!
Man the shrouds!
Lift the anchor!
Success!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Chittychittybangbangposter.jpg)
"The most fantasmagorical musical entertainment in the history of everything...."
[could that relate to World Music Awards, which have not yet been officially cancelled ?]
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Curls I think you got it right!
If the internet crashes, for whatever reason :affraid: :icon_lol: , we can live/love without it! Have a great day everyone and happy holidays!
Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson
December 21st is probably gonna be the most annoying day in internet history
Bang Bang
No internet for a day or two will be EXTREMELY annoying, you're right Paris!
Holy crap guys, maybe that's why they kept saying "This is it!" on X-factor!!
This is really IT!!
If I don't see you guys for a few days, I love you, and have a very merry, necessary early Christmas!! :woohoo2: :woohoo2:
:penguin: :penguin: :penguin: :penguin: :penguin: :penguin:
LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!
:multiplespotting:
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:thjajaja121:
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll289/Soniar72/My%20stuff/JimCarry.gif)
I guess Paris thinks it's time for Jim Carrey style dancing! I agree!
Thriller4ever, I love Chittychitty Bang bang! I'll bet MJ loves it too! It's about magic, kids and adventure!
Sorry for the mistake on the Sign reference... :icon_redface: I'll correct it.
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll289/Soniar72/My%20stuff/JimCarry.gif)
Thriller4ever, I love Chittychitty Bang bang! I'll bet MJ loves it too! It's about magic, kids and adventure!
the ballerina dress on Paris twit banner!!!
:thjajaja121:
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i just realized NOW that Paris's twitter pic is Jim Carey's pic.....
(http://grabilla.com/02c15-129d638f-3ad3-4672-a9cc-3a6aee61f5d9.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-129d638f-3ad3-4672-a9cc-3a6aee61f5d9.html) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-afce2c2b-3a37-45ae-9b99-b0f1bf984c47.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-afce2c2b-3a37-45ae-9b99-b0f1bf984c47.html)
:icon_lol: @Sim ....
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"Don't even worry!" says it all! :omg: :WTF: :thjajaja121:
Are we not supposed to take Bam all that seriously? At one point Jim says, "Halftime!" Are we at halftime in the hoax?
I know we often talked about being put in a straitjacket here, because of the mind-games. :icon_pale: :icon_lol:
"He seems to have some difficulty letting go of the game." :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
"I’m going to execute a button-hook pattern, super slo-mo."
Hey doesn’t this sound like, “I’m going to button my shirt, or jacket, or whatever it is…”
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTemL7CPX8[/youtube]
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Thought it interesting to re-read this, in light of today's date.
TS posted this 3 years ago when the TIAI redirects were being revealed, beginning on 12/21/09 ( http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1924.0.html ) .... this particular post is about the date & the concept of the end of the world on 12/21/12, however it was actually posted on December 22nd - after midnight (made me think of Sim's December 22nd posts)
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
In this final part, we are going to be examining once again the “2012” film—especially as it relates to the concept of the end of the world on 12-21-2012, which is exactly three years from today. The “2012” movie story starts in the year 2009, and ends in 2012.
The “four years” that MJ mentioned in TII started in the spring of 2009 (when the “This Is It” concerts were in the planning stages); so we have already gone through the first year. You could also think of the four years as ending on 9-9-09, 10-10-10, 11-11-11, and 12-12-12 (ten day countdown to 12-21-12). Of course these are a little more than a year apart; but they are interesting numerology milestones in the four year process.
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“Can Ye Not Discern the Signs of the Times?”
Jesus said: “… ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?” (Matthew 16:3). Jesus also said: “… when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh [near], even at the doors. … Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:29-32).
So we don’t know the exact day or hour of the end of the world—maybe not even the exact year. But if we can “discern the signs of the times”, we should be able to know when it is near! The exact date of 12-21-2012 for the end of the world is fiction; it could happen on that date, but unlikely. However the end of the world being near is a very real concept, and not merely fiction. So let’s look at some of the “signs of the times”, which show that the end is near.
Speaking of fleeing at the end of time, Jesus said: “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:20,21). Did you know that 12-21-2012 will be the first day of winter (northern hemisphere)? And did you know that 12-21-2012 will be a Friday? And did you know that in the Bible, the Sabbath day begins at sunset on Friday?? Is it a coincidence, that both of the things which Jesus mentioned (winter and Sabbath) will begin on the same day that the Mayan calendar ends?
Again, this does not necessarily mean that the world will end on 12-21-2012; in fact, Jesus asked us to pray that we would not have to flee on that day. Nevertheless, the fact that all these things line up on the same day is almost certainly a clue (sign) that the end is near.
The NWO is another huge sign that the end is near. It was prophesied nearly 2,000 years ago in the book of Revelation; read the whole book, especially the last half—and most particularly Revelation chapters 17 & 18. Here are a couple verses: “These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them:” (17:13,14).
Also very well known, from the book of Revelation, is 666 and the mark of the beast (see Revelation 13 & 14). The mark is related to finances: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark …” (13:17).
Surely you know that USA has the largest economy in the world. But did you know that S&P 500 (not Dow) is “the most reliable measure of the broader market” {http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215)}? And did you know that the S&P 500 hit a low of 666 this year on 3-6-09 {http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d (http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d)}; even the date is similar to 666 (subtract 3 from the last digit, and add it to the first digit). This was the bottom point in the worst US recession since the great depression; and in fact many people were calling it the verge of financial “Armageddon” (another end-of-the-world term from Revelation). What does this mean? Surely, it is another sign that the end is near.
Daniel 12:4 says that in “… the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” Do we see that today? Travel on a major scale, the likes of which has never existed before in human history. And also there is increasing knowledge in many areas, never before known to man. In fact the internet, a major source of knowledge, has only come into normal household use in the last decade or two. Furthermore, the speed that we can now share information on the internet (through videos, pictures, etc) is something that we couldn’t do just a few years ago.
Another sign of the end is many natural disasters (see Matthew 24:7; Mark 13;8; Luke 21:11; etc). Did you know that earthquakes (along with other disasters) are on the increase? {http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/)}
As mentioned already (see R47), the Ark of the Covenant plays a major role near the end of time. Again, stayed tuned to TIAI for more info on the Ark; this will certainly happen well before 12-21-2012.
And what about the Mayan calendar ending on 12-21-2012, should we entirely dismiss this? Again, maybe nothing will happen on that exact day—perhaps not even in that year; but especially in light of all the other signs, it is pretty evident that the Mayans did not miss the end of the world by centuries, or even decades. Sometimes I think that the ancient civilizations had more true wisdom than modern man, with all his boasted technology and science.
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“The Son of Man Cometh at an Hour When Ye Think Not.”
“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:40; see 12:46; Matthew 24:50). “… the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:2,3; see Luke 17:26-30).
Different people have different concepts—even within Christianity—about the end of the world: when it will happen, how it will happen, etc. And other religions also have their concepts of the end of time. But most people in most religions are realizing that the world is on the verge of some major change; that is just too obvious to hide.
And for those who think that there will be at least seven more years before the end, be careful. Maybe there will be, but maybe not. Remember that the Jews—even Christ’s own disciples—thought that prophecy was yet to be fulfilled, before the Messiah would come; and yet the prophecy had already been fulfilled, and they didn’t recognize it (see Malachi 4:5; Matthew 17:10-13; etc).
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“There Shall Come in the Last Days Scoffers”
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” (2 Peter 3:3,4; see 3:5,6).
Scoffing is another major sign that the end is near. Just because there have been false alarms in the past, doesn’t mean that the real thing will never come. So don’t be too quick to join in with the scoffing attitude.
And don’t be over confident in what the media or scientists tell you (that it’s not the end of the world); often scientists are right, but they have also been wrong at times (see 1 Timothy 6:20).
Scientists were wrong in the days of Noah; they told everyone not to worry about any flood, because it had never rained before and “all things [would] continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (see Genesis 2:5; 2 Peter 3:3-6). So of all the people in the antediluvian world: only eight refused to believe the scientists, and decided to get into the ark of safety.
Do you think that the flood is just a myth? Jesus took it literally, and used it as an example of how people would be at the end of the world: “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.” (see Matthew 24:37-39; Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 2:5; etc). Again, stay tuned to TIAI: and soon you will see abundant evidence that the flood of Noah literally happened—similar to the final scenes in the “2012” movie.
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This Is REALLY It!
The end of the world is near: whether you want it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you’re ready or not—the end of the world is coming, soon and very soon! This is big; this is huge; this is colossal; in fact, it really doesn’t get any bigger than this!!! And once again, from the London press conference {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4)}: “This is it, I mean this is REALLY it; this is the final — this is the FINAL curtain call.”
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https://www.facebook.com/officialWMA
The official FB page of WMA 2012 has confirmed the cancelling of the awards..2-3 hours ago.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma002zrz.jpg)
Ok ...so much for BAM at the WMA loll
It was just a possibility that we took into account because of the many hints we have regarding December 22nd or any other date before Christmas....
The excitement continues :icon_bounce: My mind is rolling! If not at the WMA... then Where would he BAM these days?? What other major even/platform for billions around the world to witness his come back?
Has anyone checked? Are there any other major events planned till the end of this year?
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"Don't even worry!" says it all! :omg: :WTF: :thjajaja121:
Are we not supposed to take Bam all that seriously? At one point Jim says, "Halftime!" Are we at halftime in the hoax?
I know we often talked about being put in a straitjacket here, because of the mind-games. :icon_pale: :icon_lol:
"He seems to have some difficulty letting go of the game." :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
"I’m going to execute a button-hook pattern, super slo-mo."
Hey doesn’t this sound like, “I’m going to button my shirt, or jacket, or whatever it is…”
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGTemL7CPX8[/youtube]
:icon_lol: LOVE those quotes !! Didn't know them!! :icon_lol:
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http://matrixharmonics.com.au/2012/02/cirque-du-soleil-connecting-with-solstices-full-moons-equinoxes-and-earth-ceremonies-in-2012/
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam015.jpg)
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Thought it interesting to re-read this, in light of today's date.
TS posted this 3 years ago when the TIAI redirects were being revealed, beginning on 12/21/09 ( http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1924.0.html ) .... this particular post is about the date & the concept of the end of the world on 12/21/12, however it was actually posted on December 22nd - after midnight (made me think of Sim's December 22nd posts)
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
In this final part, we are going to be examining once again the “2012” film—especially as it relates to the concept of the end of the world on 12-21-2012, which is exactly three years from today. The “2012” movie story starts in the year 2009, and ends in 2012.
The “four years” that MJ mentioned in TII started in the spring of 2009 (when the “This Is It” concerts were in the planning stages); so we have already gone through the first year. You could also think of the four years as ending on 9-9-09, 10-10-10, 11-11-11, and 12-12-12 (ten day countdown to 12-21-12). Of course these are a little more than a year apart; but they are interesting numerology milestones in the four year process.
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Great reminder ADI!! TKS!
We have here ONE more December 22nd connection in the LOOONG list! :icon_e_wink:
I love that "after midnight" ... :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_albino:
♫ "Its close to midnight.... Under the MOONLIGHT ... 'cause This Is Thriller .... Thriller night.... " ♫
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Is it possible that they canceled the awards because they knew no one would be watching them because of something else of greater interest going on? Their excuse is ridiculous. People get visas well ahead of these events.
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Is it possible that they canceled the awards because they knew no one would be watching them because of something else of greater interest going on? Their excuse is ridiculous. People get visas well ahead of these events.
I agree! the cancellation motive seemed weird from the very beginning.
Even though it's now officially confirmed, I still "smell" there was something hoaxy in relation to the BAM and the WMA. Maybe an intentional mislead ?
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World class artists who won't get a visa is ridiculous! What a BS :)
There must be something in it.. let's wait and see.
I agree with you Gwynned.
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World class artists who won't get a visa is ridiculous! What a BS :)
There must be something in it.. let's wait and see.
I agree with you Gwynned.
That's what I was thinking too - international artists should all have passports, why would they need a visa? They're going to Miami, not Dubai. I don't know, it's strange to say the least. It's also weird that it was cancelled shortly after the conversations started here about MJ possibly returning then. I don't think he was going to be at the WMAs...but maybe somebody knew his return would happen today or tomorrow so they cancelled the awards because they knew nobody would be watching if MJ came back...? Pure speculation here.
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If this isn't enough evidence to convince all of BAM today, I don't know what is!!!!!!!
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
I hope you're right....but Paris also did a 'bang bang' tweet a couple weeks ago or so. But today or tomorrow is alllllrighty then! by me!!
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Thought it interesting to re-read this, in light of today's date.
TS posted this 3 years ago when the TIAI redirects were being revealed, beginning on 12/21/09 ( http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1924.0.html ) ....
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
In this final part, we are going to be examining once again the “2012” film—especially as it relates to the concept of the end of the world on 12-21-2012, which is exactly three years from today. The “2012” movie story starts in the year 2009, and ends in 2012.
The “four years” that MJ mentioned in TII started in the spring of 2009 (when the “This Is It” concerts were in the planning stages); so we have already gone through the first year. You could also think of the four years as ending on 9-9-09, 10-10-10, 11-11-11, and 12-12-12 (ten day countdown to 12-21-12). Of course these are a little more than a year apart; but they are interesting numerology milestones in the four year process.
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“Can Ye Not Discern the Signs of the Times?”
Jesus said: “… ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?” (Matthew 16:3). Jesus also said: “… when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh [near], even at the doors. … Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:29-32).
So we don’t know the exact day or hour of the end of the world—maybe not even the exact year. But if we can “discern the signs of the times”, we should be able to know when it is near! The exact date of 12-21-2012 for the end of the world is fiction; it could happen on that date, but unlikely. However the end of the world being near is a very real concept, and not merely fiction. So let’s look at some of the “signs of the times”, which show that the end is near.
Speaking of fleeing at the end of time, Jesus said: “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:20,21). Did you know that 12-21-2012 will be the first day of winter (northern hemisphere)? And did you know that 12-21-2012 will be a Friday? And did you know that in the Bible, the Sabbath day begins at sunset on Friday?? Is it a coincidence, that both of the things which Jesus mentioned (winter and Sabbath) will begin on the same day that the Mayan calendar ends?
Again, this does not necessarily mean that the world will end on 12-21-2012; in fact, Jesus asked us to pray that we would not have to flee on that day. Nevertheless, the fact that all these things line up on the same day is almost certainly a clue (sign) that the end is near.
The NWO is another huge sign that the end is near. It was prophesied nearly 2,000 years ago in the book of Revelation; read the whole book, especially the last half—and most particularly Revelation chapters 17 & 18. Here are a couple verses: “These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them:” (17:13,14).
Also very well known, from the book of Revelation, is 666 and the mark of the beast (see Revelation 13 & 14). The mark is related to finances: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark …” (13:17).
Surely you know that USA has the largest economy in the world. But did you know that S&P 500 (not Dow) is “the most reliable measure of the broader market” {http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215)}? And did you know that the S&P 500 hit a low of 666 this year on 3-6-09 {http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d (http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d)}; even the date is similar to 666 (subtract 3 from the last digit, and add it to the first digit). This was the bottom point in the worst US recession since the great depression; and in fact many people were calling it the verge of financial “Armageddon” (another end-of-the-world term from Revelation). What does this mean? Surely, it is another sign that the end is near.
Daniel 12:4 says that in “… the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” Do we see that today? Travel on a major scale, the likes of which has never existed before in human history. And also there is increasing knowledge in many areas, never before known to man. In fact the internet, a major source of knowledge, has only come into normal household use in the last decade or two. Furthermore, the speed that we can now share information on the internet (through videos, pictures, etc) is something that we couldn’t do just a few years ago.
Another sign of the end is many natural disasters (see Matthew 24:7; Mark 13;8; Luke 21:11; etc). Did you know that earthquakes (along with other disasters) are on the increase? {http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/)}
As mentioned already (see R47), the Ark of the Covenant plays a major role near the end of time. Again, stayed tuned to TIAI for more info on the Ark; this will certainly happen well before 12-21-2012.
And what about the Mayan calendar ending on 12-21-2012, should we entirely dismiss this? Again, maybe nothing will happen on that exact day—perhaps not even in that year; but especially in light of all the other signs, it is pretty evident that the Mayans did not miss the end of the world by centuries, or even decades. Sometimes I think that the ancient civilizations had more true wisdom than modern man, with all his boasted technology and science.
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“The Son of Man Cometh at an Hour When Ye Think Not.”
“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:40; see 12:46; Matthew 24:50). “… the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:2,3; see Luke 17:26-30).
Different people have different concepts—even within Christianity—about the end of the world: when it will happen, how it will happen, etc. And other religions also have their concepts of the end of time. But most people in most religions are realizing that the world is on the verge of some major change; that is just too obvious to hide.
And for those who think that there will be at least seven more years before the end, be careful. Maybe there will be, but maybe not. Remember that the Jews—even Christ’s own disciples—thought that prophecy was yet to be fulfilled, before the Messiah would come; and yet the prophecy had already been fulfilled, and they didn’t recognize it (see Malachi 4:5; Matthew 17:10-13; etc).
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“There Shall Come in the Last Days Scoffers”
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” (2 Peter 3:3,4; see 3:5,6).
Scoffing is another major sign that the end is near. Just because there have been false alarms in the past, doesn’t mean that the real thing will never come. So don’t be too quick to join in with the scoffing attitude.
And don’t be over confident in what the media or scientists tell you (that it’s not the end of the world); often scientists are right, but they have also been wrong at times (see 1 Timothy 6:20).
Scientists were wrong in the days of Noah; they told everyone not to worry about any flood, because it had never rained before and “all things [would] continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (see Genesis 2:5; 2 Peter 3:3-6). So of all the people in the antediluvian world: only eight refused to believe the scientists, and decided to get into the ark of safety.
Do you think that the flood is just a myth? Jesus took it literally, and used it as an example of how people would be at the end of the world: “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.” (see Matthew 24:37-39; Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 2:5; etc). Again, stay tuned to TIAI: and soon you will see abundant evidence that the flood of Noah literally happened—similar to the final scenes in the “2012” movie.
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This Is REALLY It!
The end of the world is near: whether you want it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you’re ready or not—the end of the world is coming, soon and very soon! This is big; this is huge; this is colossal; in fact, it really doesn’t get any bigger than this!!! And once again, from the London press conference {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4)}: “This is it, I mean this is REALLY it; this is the final — this is the FINAL curtain call.”
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOHJKrxhBME[/youtube]
Sorry! I don't like 2 be the party pooper of the bunch. :icon_e_sad:
Oh and MJonline, yes Indeed Jim is funny in that damn tutu! Paris You Rock! :smiley_abuv:
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World class artists who won't get a visa is ridiculous! What a BS :)
There must be something in it.. let's wait and see.
I agree with you Gwynned.
That's what I was thinking too - international artists should all have passports, why would they need a visa? They're going to Miami, not Dubai. I don't know, it's strange to say the least. It's also weird that it was cancelled shortly after the conversations started here about MJ possibly returning then. I don't think he was going to be at the WMAs...but maybe somebody knew his return would happen today or tomorrow so they cancelled the awards because they knew nobody would be watching if MJ came back...? Pure speculation here.
How can the third parties know about MJ's hoax and comeback that it would cancel the show altogether ?
I think that this whole WMA thing is a setup by Michael to provide us with a clue...
- MJ's pic among those who are alive
- MJ's pic at the end of ALL pics
- MJ coming out of the earth...
- The shroud of Turin (as pointed out by MJonmind)
- Carlos Santana and his reference of MJ 'The Archangel' ( by MJonmind)
- Thriller performance by Chris Brown (though I know this doesn't hold much significance, but still)
Or else, Michael made sure the show is cancelled....
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World class artists who won't get a visa is ridiculous! What a BS :)
There must be something in it.. let's wait and see.
I agree with you Gwynned.
That's what I was thinking too - international artists should all have passports, why would they need a visa? They're going to Miami, not Dubai. I don't know, it's strange to say the least. It's also weird that it was cancelled shortly after the conversations started here about MJ possibly returning then. I don't think he was going to be at the WMAs...but maybe somebody knew his return would happen today or tomorrow so they cancelled the awards because they knew nobody would be watching if MJ came back...? Pure speculation here.
How can the third parties know about MJ's hoax and comeback that it would cancel the show altogether ?
I think that this whole WMA thing is a setup by Michael to provide us with a clue...
- MJ's pic among those who are alive
- MJ's pic at the end of ALL pics
- MJ coming out of the earth...
- The shroud of Turin (as pointed out by MJonmind)
- Carlos Santana and his reference of MJ 'The Archangel' ( by MJonmind)
- Thriller performance by Chris Brown (though I know this doesn't hold much significance, but still)
Or else, Michael made sure the show is cancelled....
Could be. If MJ made sure the show was cancelled then that takes care of any 3rd party knowing about the hoax and comeback. I don't know, it's all speculation. It just seems like this WMAs was poorly planned this year if they say the artists couldn't get there because of visa issues... But ya, definitely a lot of Michael-isms there.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2zj9rljwj.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011eoe.jpg)
@Thriller4ever & @Andrea: great points~ And I would also add to that list: among the photos showed by the WMA official site, there is also a photo of Stevie Wonder :icon_albino: - another hoax accomplice, present almost in every key hoax moments! And Also BEYONCE !! We know she LOVES Michael and they are good friends!
And I don't know for you guys , but I am still tormented by this ^^ CLOSE UP screenshot of Michael on the WMA 2012 site!!
Besides the fact that he doesn't look like he should have if that pic was indeed from the WMA 1996, there is also his V-neckline shirt and his chest! that remind me of Front's photo!! What if that was the purpose why Front posted this photo for us back then? to make us think about it when we see this WMA 2012 pic?? :affraid: And also look at his body position: we can see him completely from the FRONT !! :icon_e_wink: I have this hunch...this photo is a "necessary early (recent)" photo!! :icon_e_biggrin:
ALSo @MjonMind's comparison is very PERTINENT!
@Sim, I agree these pics of MJ don't seem like from the same event. Here they are right together.
His face looks a similar age (but could be current who knows), but his hair is swept back, his shirt less tucked in, his shirt deeper cut and more open in the v-neck, his undershirt has longer sleeves, and no belt. Also he is standing before his entrance into the earth, not having stepped up one step; and in the video he is in complete shadow until he has walked well forward.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjatwma199.jpg)
I really think we shouldn't dismiss all these things! - http://www.worldmusicawards.com/
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma004.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma003fsf.jpg)
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(http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.html)
the V neck's here too....
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The shirt Front posted isn't a V neck.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2zj9rljwj.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011eoe.jpg)
And I don't know for you guys , but I am still tormented by this ^^ CLOSE UP screenshot of Michael on the WMA 2012 site!!
Besides the fact that he doesn't look like he should have if that pic was indeed from the WMA 1996, there is also his V-neckline shirt and his chest! that remind me of Front's photo!! What if that was the purpose why Front posted this photo for us back then? to make us think about it when we see this WMA 2012 pic?? :affraid: And also look at his body position: we can see him completely from the FRONT !! :icon_e_wink: I have this hunch...this photo is a "necessary early (recent)" photo!! :icon_e_biggrin:
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,7104.msg356413.html#msg356413
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma005.jpg)
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(http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.html)
the V neck's here too....
I was just to post the same pic :)
Seems like the same MJ for me.. sorry
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Here's the V neck from Front.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/34t936d.png)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2zj9rljwj.jpg)
Here's the V neck from Front.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/34t936d.png)
Youp Youp!! I was just looking for that through Front's posts! tks Andrea!
I mean he posted 2 photos with his NECK-LINE ! And on the WMA 2012 site we have a photo with that V-NECK LINE too!! I don't think this is coincidental!!
(http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.png) (http://grabilla.com/02c15-5621e20d-2532-46fa-8922-2f3e294892c7.html)
the V neck's here too....
Yeah! i know ... BUT it STILL doesn't look like THIS ONE here:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma006.jpg)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2zj9rljwj.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam011eoe.jpg)
@Thriller4ever & @Andrea: great points~ And I would also add to that list: among the photos showed by the WMA official site, there is also a photo of Stevie Wonder :icon_albino: - another hoax accomplice, present almost in every key hoax moments! And Also BEYONCE !! We know she LOVES Michael and they are good friends!
And I don't know for you guys , but I am still tormented by this ^^ CLOSE UP screenshot of Michael on the WMA 2012 site!!
Besides the fact that he doesn't look like he should have if that pic was indeed from the WMA 1996, there is also his V-neckline shirt and his chest! that remind me of Front's photo!! What if that was the purpose why Front posted this photo for us back then? to make us think about it when we see this WMA 2012 pic?? :affraid: And also look at his body position: we can see him completely from the FRONT !! :icon_e_wink: I have this hunch...this photo is a "necessary early (recent)" photo!! :icon_e_biggrin:
ALSo @MjonMind's comparison is very PERTINENT!
@Sim, I agree these pics of MJ don't seem like from the same event. Here they are right together.
His face looks a similar age (but could be current who knows), but his hair is swept back, his shirt less tucked in, his shirt deeper cut and more open in the v-neck, his undershirt has longer sleeves, and no belt. Also he is standing before his entrance into the earth, not having stepped up one step; and in the video he is in complete shadow until he has walked well forward.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjatwma199.jpg)
I really think we shouldn't dismiss all these things! - http://www.worldmusicawards.com/
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma004.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/wma003fsf.jpg)
fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG! :icon_eek:
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG! :icon_eek:
whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?
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Jos from Back & Front thread today:
Not that I believe all this BS about EOW, but I believe I have read that the Maya's build this "calender" 3000yrs ago.
Well, by then, did they know the world was bigger than the Mayan region they lived in?
I mean, if I recall correctly, just 1000yrs or so ago some sailors found America
So, this 12-21-2012 @ 11:11 hours, wouldn't this be the time of the maya's / mexico?
If I'm wrong, 2 bad
Since we are talking about the "Cirque du Soleil Event" that will broadcast live from the Great Pyramid at Chichen Itza (Yucatan -Mexico) I am bringing Jos' post from the other thread, sorry guys for the inconvenient but What if Michael BAMs in this very event at 11.11 mexican local time just thinking out loud!!
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Jos from Back & Front thread today:
Not that I believe all this BS about EOW, but I believe I have read that the Maya's build this "calender" 3000yrs ago.
Well, by then, did they know the world was bigger than the Mayan region they lived in?
I mean, if I recall correctly, just 1000yrs or so ago some sailors found America
So, this 12-21-2012 @ 11:11 hours, wouldn't this be the time of the maya's / mexico?
If I'm wrong, 2 bad
Since we are talking about the "Cirque du Soleil Event" that will broadcast live from the Great Pyramid at Chichen Itza (Yucatan -Mexico) I am bringing Jos' post from the other thread, sorry guys for the inconvenient but What if Michael BAMs in this very event at 11.11 mexican local time just thinking out loud!!
That's a great idea to consider @Jos & @sweetsunsetwithMJ ! WoW!
I don't know what to say... I can only FEEL something BIG on the WAY!! :icon_bounce: :woohoo2:
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Jos from Back & Front thread today:
Not that I believe all this BS about EOW, but I believe I have read that the Maya's build this "calender" 3000yrs ago.
Well, by then, did they know the world was bigger than the Mayan region they lived in?
I mean, if I recall correctly, just 1000yrs or so ago some sailors found America
So, this 12-21-2012 @ 11:11 hours, wouldn't this be the time of the maya's / mexico?
If I'm wrong, 2 bad
Since we are talking about the "Cirque du Soleil Event" that will broadcast live from the Great Pyramid at Chichen Itza (Yucatan -Mexico) I am bringing Jos' post from the other thread, sorry guys for the inconvenient but What if Michael BAMs in this very event at 11.11 mexican local time just thinking out loud!!
Is there confirmation of this concert? I did a search and could only find something from August about a 'rumor'. If someone has a link, I will forever be in your debt.
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Is there confirmation of this concert? I did a search and could only find something from August about a 'rumor'. If someone has a link, I will forever be in your debt.
I haven't found any recent confirmation so far , me neither.
There's this link that MaryK gave me on FB: http://matrixharmonics.com.au/2012/02/cirque-du-soleil-connecting-with-solstices-full-moons-equinoxes-and-earth-ceremonies-in-2012/
Cirque Du Soleil – Connecting with Solstices, Full Moons, Equinoxes and Earth Ceremonies in 2012
Posted on February 18, 2012 by Paulina
Unify Earth, the organization that is sponsored by the people who gave us ‘Live Aid’, ”We are the World’, and other mega-events with a humanitarian purpose, have got behind Hunbatz Men, Pedro Pablo Chuc Pech, and the Mayan Council and they want to provide a vehicle for the Elders’ message to be spread to every corner of the Earth. In collaboration with Cirque de Soleil, ‘Google’, NBC, Santana, Elevate Films, and others, all of the above have come together to sponsor a series of spectacular performances that will carry the seeds that are sown in the soon to be actualized Crystal Skull Ceremonies to hearts and minds all over the planet.
Throughout 2012, on the March 21st Spring Equinox, the June 21st Summer Solstice, and the September 21st, Autumn Equinox, Cirque de Soleil will present special performances with themes that embody the wisdom of the ancients, the secrets of the Great Shift of the Ages, and the connection between the mysteries of the heart and the awakening of human consciousness. At the heart of each performance will be the wish to open the mind and the heart of humanity to the Ascension process, and to the prospect of a beautiful future in a whole new world.
This series of blockbuster performances will culminate in a fourth mega-event that will broadcast live, from the Great Pyramid at Chichen Itza on the 2012 Winter Solstice. On that night Cirque de Soleil will take over the entire Chichen Itza Temple complex. The Chichen Itza Pyramid will be transformed into a stage, upon which the artists and performers of the Cirque de Soleil will work their incredible magic. Carlos Santana, the man who has been a clear channel for the Music of the Spheres for over fifty-years, will be the Master of Ceremonies for the main event. The Winter Solstice performance will also include an unprecedented, full regalia ceremony with the Mayan Elders. The Elders will be there too; they are coming down from the mountains to be part of this.
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG! :icon_eek:
whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?
Oh you mean the Michael shaped island? it was some contest for fans on a site... to come up with ideas for a Dubai island...and some came up with Michael shaped islands [see the montages below].
About that THEME PARK project with the prince.... I don't remember when and on what site I found these... But that's all I've got on it....
This BAHRAIN-lead has been repeated over and over through out this hoax...there's gotta be more to it...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlyry.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlqkq.jpg)
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Michael shaped islands
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/jacksonisl.jpg)
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(http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/17/43/31/11/captur10.png) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=51&u=17433111)
Where is the " bang bang " ?
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Where is the " bang bang " ?
She's been posting stuff and deleting them lately . I wonder why !
Another thing that I just found out today is that Genevieve is following a page on twitter called " The Illuminati " , I find this very disturbing ! Was it for fun or to mislead ?
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
Michael Jackson
il y a 2 heures
7” Sleeves: Here’s a Dutch 7” sleeve for “Black Or White”! Do you have one of these in your collection?
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https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson?ref=stream
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
@Sarahli: :icon_lol: Funny girl! Thanks for sharing your BAMzified thoughts! :icon_lol:
Makes sense what you say...
The 7 and the Dutch also caught my eye ! :icon_e_wink:
I_DEED ... It's NOW or NEVER :affraid: :bowdown:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkMVscR5YOo[/youtube]
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no...don't think there's any direct relation to hoax...unless we give 'wings' to our imagination....
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no...don't think there's any direct relation to hoax...unless we give 'wings' to our imagination....
:icon_lol: sure it can be, but there's no harm in letting our imagination fly.
@ Sim :icon_e_wink:
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no...don't think there's any direct relation to hoax...unless we give 'wings' to our imagination....
:icon_lol: sure it can be, but there's no harm in letting our imagination fly.
@ Sim :icon_e_wink:
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Fume/canabis-je-vole.gif) :icon_lol:
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG! :icon_eek:
whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?
Oh you mean the Michael shaped island? it was some contest for fans on a site... to come up with ideas for a Dubai island...and some came up with Michael shaped islands [see the montages below].
About that THEME PARK project with the prince.... I don't remember when and on what site I found these... But that's all I've got on it....
This BAHRAIN-lead has been repeated over and over through out this hoax...there's gotta be more to it...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlyry.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlqkq.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlrvr.jpg)
Michael shaped islands
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/jacksonisl.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/jacksohdh.jpg)
ok... I can't get the 7 Bam Michael & Bahain redirect out of my head along with Fronts drawing of the clock pointing to 12:21 :icon_albino:
Then there's with the whole cheesy visa thing having to do with the WMA slotted for the 22nd... :WTF:
Also we have the 21 vs 22 date debate & screen shot of the 911 call times... :animal0017:
SO;
What if there's a redirect TONIGHT @ 12:21? (close to midnight... :icon_razz:)
Wouldn't that make it actually 12:21 on the 22nd?
or am I just :icon_geek: and grasping at straws?
Guess we'll know tonight... We'll see if there's a redirect and what it's about.
:bearhug:
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no...don't think there's any direct relation to hoax...unless we give 'wings' to our imagination....
:icon_lol: sure it can be, but there's no harm in letting our imagination fly.
@ Sim :icon_e_wink:
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Fume/canabis-je-vole.gif) :icon_lol:
:icon_lol:
Talking about imagination flying, this one might bring me near the heavens lol -- I noticed what looks like a Sun on that album cover^^which made me think of this:
The sun will rise again, bigger and brighter, emblazoned in gold…like a beacon whose physical existence was provisionally "extinguished"…but never forgotten. Those "flames" are the heart of the passionate inferno of resurgence that awaits. Some things are not meant to be ascertained but to be envisaged through delicate whispers. Just as the Earth is sure to rotate on its axis, the resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story…and the truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth. Momentarily, the world will quake, for there will be a cosmic shift in "dogma". Time is of the essence, but patience is a viture in [r]evolutionary milestones. Until then, from beyond the gates of that KINGdom----> whispers shall be heard…………….
Good reminder anyway.
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
Michael Jackson
il y a 2 heures
7” Sleeves: Here’s a Dutch 7” sleeve for “Black Or White”! Do you have one of these in your collection?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c1.0.403.403/p403x403/309100_10151294869196473_1638740771_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson?ref=stream
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
Today starts the Solar solciste starts today on 21.12 and ends on 25.12.. Maybe I'll ask what Jermaine JackSUN is up to lol - maybe he is BAMzified, too. :ghsdf:
An interesting quote from our friend BACK about the SUN, tIME etc.
"tHE SUN RISES amidst the clouds, breaking the thickest of the wild blue yonder's momentary scab. It's a brighter day once the scab fickles and dissapates to matter. As the earth continues its' AXIS ROTATION, day to night, night to day, the human beings of said planet witness the continuance of the trance we call time. Time is of the essence, so they say. Time is the checkmate of life. Forever spinning in this globe-cast of many different elements, there comes a tIME when time itself takes a backseat to the mOMENT. We, as intelligent beings, decipher and choose when to allow the moment to suspend time. As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell. Some things aren't meant for easy translation. But over tIme, it's possible to clearly see the light, if the mOMENT warrants. As the world turns and the clocks spin infinitely, tick tock tick tock, kEEP track of time and please kEEP WATCHIN'
(c) BACK 08/25/2006
Source: I got the information about the Solar solciste and Back's post from TrueNewsZone -> https://twitter.com/TrueNewsZone.
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Even though they were only submitted ideas I loved those island pics thanks for sharing sim. Hope it happens ;)
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
@Sarahli: :icon_lol: Funny girl! Thanks for sharing your BAMzified thoughts! :icon_lol:
Makes sense what you say...
The 7 and the Dutch also caught my eye ! :icon_e_wink:
:woohoo2: (i'm Dutch) :)
No seriously:
7 ---> Dutch ----> Amsterdam -shirt on one of Front's pic's
(just my first thought )
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpvmBMzD44[/youtube]
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a Q =>>
is BAM willbe quite or BAMBONIOUS????????????
4ver<3
:elvis-1405: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
Michael Jackson
il y a 2 heures
7” Sleeves: Here’s a Dutch 7” sleeve for “Black Or White”! Do you have one of these in your collection?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c1.0.403.403/p403x403/309100_10151294869196473_1638740771_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson?ref=stream
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
Today starts the Solar solciste starts today on 21.12 and ends on 25.12.. Maybe I'll ask what Jermaine JackSUN is up to lol - maybe he is BAMzified, too. :ghsdf:
An interesting quote from our friend BACK about the SUN, tIME etc.
"tHE SUN RISES amidst the clouds, breaking the thickest of the wild blue yonder's momentary scab. It's a brighter day once the scab fickles and dissapates to matter. As the earth continues its' AXIS ROTATION, day to night, night to day, the human beings of said planet witness the continuance of the trance we call time. Time is of the essence, so they say. Time is the checkmate of life. Forever spinning in this globe-cast of many different elements, there comes a tIME when time itself takes a backseat to the mOMENT. We, as intelligent beings, decipher and choose when to allow the moment to suspend time. As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell. Some things aren't meant for easy translation. But over tIme, it's possible to clearly see the light, if the mOMENT warrants. As the world turns and the clocks spin infinitely, tick tock tick tock, kEEP track of time and please kEEP WATCHIN'
(c) BACK 08/25/2006
That FB picture posted today with the little sun there kind of reminds me of this from TS on 12/21/09:
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
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Speaking of fleeing at the end of time, Jesus said: “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:20,21). Did you know that 12-21-2012 will be the first day of winter (northern hemisphere)? And did you know that 12-21-2012 will be a Friday? And did you know that in the Bible, the Sabbath day begins at sunset on Friday?? Is it a coincidence, that both of the things which Jesus mentioned (winter and Sabbath) will begin on the same day that the Mayan calendar ends?
Agree - interesting that it is the Dutch sleeve and also the 7's there
....those eyes are just staring through my soul! :icon_e_ugeek: :icon_albino:
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a Q =>>
is BAM willbe quite or BAMBONIOUS????????????
4ver<3
:elvis-1405: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
You made me laugh SkyWays. :thjajaja121: Bambonious ? This hoax has started a whole new language. Greetings, fellow New Yorker. I'm from NY also.
I love all your Island pictures Sim. The black or white sleeve looks like a pyramid with the capstone on and also an upside down pyramid. Remember "turning the pyramid upside down" ? Turning the illuminati pyramid upside down.
:michael_jackson-1135:
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Interesting post AustrialianMJbeliever. The start of the sabbath is right now where I am because it's after sundown 12/21/12. So, this important sabbath is tonight and tomorrow. Starting at sundown depending on your time zone. Thanks for posting Aussie. Is it summer weather right now where you are ? Cold,dark, snow and ice for me today.
Love
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^^^ actually DWA that post you refer to was made by me (Adi) not AustralianMJbeliever.....but we are both from Australia... :icon_mrgreen:
and you are welcome! I thought it interesting too :icon_albino:
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a Q =>>
is BAM willbe quite or BAMBONIOUS????????????
4ver<3
:elvis-1405: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
LoL, I vote for Bambonious!! Love it!
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If this isn't enough evidence to convince all of BAM today, I don't know what is!!!!!!!
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
1. It's either a "backwards" statement by negating the truth.
In that case, Paris twit translates into:
"December 21st is probably gonna be the most EXCITING (BAM ?) day in internet history" :affraid: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
OR
2. December 21st it's gonna be indeed BORING because nothing will happen today... hinting maybe towards the "calm" before the "storm" (BAM) of the next day? IDK....
WHATEVER that means, I love this twit!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/paristtjt.jpg)
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/o_stupid.gif) WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG! :icon_eek:
whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?
About that THEME PARK project with the prince.... I don't remember when and on what site I found these... But that's all I've got on it....
This BAHRAIN-lead has been repeated over and over through out this hoax...there's gotta be more to it...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlyry.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlqkq.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/neverlrvr.jpg)
ok... I can't get the 7 Bam Michael & Bahain redirect out of my head along with Fronts drawing of the clock pointing to 12:21 :icon_albino:
Then there's with the whole cheesy visa thing having to do with the WMA slotted for the 22nd... :WTF:
Also we have the 21 vs 22 date debate & screen shot of the 911 call times... :animal0017:
SO;
What if there's a redirect TONIGHT @ 12:21? (close to midnight... :icon_razz:)
Wouldn't that make it actually 12:21 on the 22nd?
or am I just :icon_geek: and grasping at straws?
Guess we'll know tonight... We'll see if there's a redirect and what it's about.
:bearhug:
Wow! That would be a great explanation to why we've had so many clues hinting to both December 21st and December 22nd ---> it could be the NIGHT between the 2! :icon_e_biggrin: THRILLER NIGHT :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
I found that site where I took those pics from ^^ http://disneyandmore.blogspot.ro/2009/11/d-exclusive-michael-jacksons-peter-pans.html
And here's the explanation why the Theme park project got stuck.
Unless you live on another planet, you probably know that last week was another "Michael Jackson week". The "This Is it" documentary and CD album were released and a major Michael Jackson exhibition opened last Tuesday in London. I thought it would be the perfect time to introduce to you one of Michael's most secret - and really fantastic - projects: the Peter Pan's Neverland theme park that never was.
Let's first go back in time to 1997, when Michael Jackson and Prince Al-Waleed - Disneyland Paris' biggest private stock-holder - created a company called Kingdom Entertainment and purchased 50% of Landmark Entertainment, giving the company a huge infusion of cash. Prince Al-Waleed had 45% and Michael had 5% of the shares. I remind you that Landmark is the famous company directed by Gary Goddard which created the Spider-Man ride at IOA and the Jurassic Park and Terminator 3D attractions at Universal Studios.
[ . . . . ]
So what happened? Why this Peter Pan's Neverland theme park was never built? Well, some years later, Michael Jackson and Prince Al-Waleed ended their association, and considering the cost of a concept like this one, it was very unfortunately the end of the Peter Pan's Neverland project. Although Michael lived in his Neverland Ranch, he never got to walk in this "real" Neverland. However, years later, Landmark designed for Michael a great statue showing Michael as Peter Pan!
Does this mean that we will never see this great park concept become real one day? Who knows, with all the different Michael Jackson celebrations that will happen in years to come - not to mention that Neverland Ranch could become for Michael Jackson's fans what Graceland is to Presley's fans - maybe somebody who has enough money will find, just like we do, that it would be great to build this Peter Pan's Neverland for real? And, hey, there is plenty of land available inside Neverland Ranch. Who could imagine a better place to build Michael's dearest dream?
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fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.
That number 7 is literally all around Michael !!!
Michael Jackson and Prince of Bahrain settled lawsuit 'amicably,' say lawyers
By Ellen Tumposky / DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Monday, November 24, 2008, 1:07 PM
LONDON - It's all "amicable" between Michael Jackson and the sheikh who sued him, lawyers said Monday. Jackson and Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al-Khalifa have "amicably settled" their legal dispute, the sheikh's lawyer, Philip Croall, told reporters at High Court Monday.
"They wish each other well in their own respective endeavors."
RELATED: SETTLEMENT REACHED IN JACKO LAWSUIT
Jackson had been expected to fly to London to testify Monday in the sheikh's $7 million breach-of-contract, but the two sides reached an agreement over the weekend. No details were released.
Jackson's New York lawyer, Londell McMillan, took the opportunity to trash a British press report that Jackson has become a Muslim. "That's rubbish. It's completely untrue," McMillan told reporters.
Sheikh Abdulla, the second son of the king of Bahrain, was not in court today.
He befriended Jackson while the singer was facing child-molestation charges in 2005 and paid for Jackson and his entourage to come to Bahrain after Jackson was acquitted.
The sheikh, an aspiring songwriter who formed a company called 2 Seas Records, accused Jackson of reneging on a deal to produce an album, an autobiography and a musical for the label. He was seeking payback for the $7 million he says he spent on the singer and the recording project.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/michael-jackson-prince-bahrain-settled-lawsuit-amicably-lawyers-article-1.334844#ixzz2Fk36wjHX
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Jacko's Latest Divorce
Written By Roger Friedman / Published September 28, 2006 / FoxNews.com
Michael Jackson and Prince Abdullah of Bahrain are no more. Jackson is officially out of Bahrain and has been since May, I am told. He and the prince have severed their business ties, which included the famously announced but never realized 2 Seas Records. Additionally, Jackson is no longer working with AAJ Holdings, the Bahraini company that was going to put the island nation on the map.
Are we surprised? Not really. But as usual, Jackson’s divorce from the prince is messy. Jackson, according to his inner circle, accuses the Prince of preventing his infamous charity single, “I Have a Dream,” from being released. According to this scenario, the prince has impounded the elements of the recording, which Jackson made in a Bahraini studio, and won’t turn them over.
“The record has Ciara, Snoop Dogg and Keyshia Cole on it,” says a source. Prince Abdullah wasn’t satisfied “and kept bugging Michael for more female voices.” When the recording was supposed to be sent to Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds and R. Kelly for work, the prince, I am told, refused to do it. Abdullah, according to these sources, also has kept master recordings, which Jackson made there.
Of course, the prince’s people say that he spent at least $2 to million 3$ million on Jackson during his year as the prince’s pet moonwalker. Jackson did claim Bahrain as his residence from July 2005 to May 2006. At Christmas, the prince flew over a bunch of Jackson’s friends, including two of his post-teen male protégés, Omer Bhatti and Anton Schleiter, as well as members of the Cascio family. But Jackson’s side insists all he ever received from the prince was a mere $200,000 to cover expenses.
The real trouble came when Jackson, who used the prince’s lawyers to negotiate his refinancing with Sony and Fortress Investments last spring, didn’t like the contract offered to him by Abdullah. “The prince wanted to take control of everything in Michael’s life,” says a source who was in on the paperwork. “It wasn’t a recording contract he offered, but a personal services agreement.”
Things got so bad last spring that the prince froze Jackson’s drawing account in Bahrain. That apparently brought things to a head quickly. Jackson, according to those on his side in this matter, say the singer was also angry that the prince didn’t come through with buying him a house in Bahrain. “It was a rental,” sniffs the source. “Michael didn’t like that.”
So Jackson is now sequestered in Ireland, although nearly every story out of there otherwise has been untrue. He was never going to build a leprechaun theme park, for example, and has not contacted Teddy Riley to produce his new album, says Raymone Bain, Jackson’s tireless flack. But reality bites, and for Jackson, even relatively inexpensive Ireland is eating away at the cash he has on hand.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215981,00.html#ixzz2Fk46uX15
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The fight over Michael's millions - http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/23/news/companies/michael_jackson_money_assets.fortune/
Michael Jackson Severs Ties with Record Label and Bahrain, Starts Washing with Irish Spring - http://blogcritics.org/music/article/michael-jackson-severs-ties-with-record/
Jackson of Arabia
Aug 3, 2009 7:04 PM EDT
Criminal investigations and probate court hearings this week underscore the medical and financial disaster that Michael Jackson became. And many of those roads lead to the pop superstar’s bizarre year in the kingdom of Bahrain.
Michael Jackson’s descent toward death could be pegged to any number of dates, but a sure one was June 13, 2005, the day he was acquitted of all charges in his child-molestation case. Within a week, he had bolted California for the oil-rich island nation of Bahrain, where his friendship with Prince Abdullah bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the 33-year-old second son of the king, began an odyssey of odd behavior that eventually ended up—as did many other post-trial Jackson relationships—in court, and raised more questions about the singer’s state of mind and possible deepening drug use.
Jackson was encouraged to go to Bahrain to escape the crushing media scrutiny at the urging of his brother Jermaine, who had converted to Islam in 1989, after his own visit to Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and has business dealings there. At only 300 square miles, Bahrain is smaller than New York City and has just over 500,000 citizens. Beyond its capital of Manama, with its wide palm-tree-lined boulevards, modern high rises, and sprawling luxury malls, the country has a sleepy village ambiance.
In March 2006, Jackson dressed as a Muslim woman, covered from head to toe in a black abaya, with black gloves and large sunglasses, and took his children through the Marina Mall in the Bahrain capital. With the king’s blessing, Jackson immediately had access to every important power broker. And over the next year, Prince Abdullah spent about $7 million bankrolling Jackson's lifestyle in Manama. He gave the singer $500,000 in spending money and $350,000 for a holiday to Europe, as well as paying for Jackson's eight bodyguards and giving him the use of his family’s fleet of private jets.
“I saw the payments as an investment in Michael's potential,” Abdullah later said as part of a lawsuit he filed against Jackson in London. ”He said he'd pay me back… through our work together."
That work together was a deal Jackson inked in which he promised, by 2012, to deliver to Abdullah two albums, a Broadway musical in the style of Abba’s Mamma Mia!, and a ghosted autobiography. Also, Jackson signed on as a “consultant” on matters ranging from theme parks to music academics to Bahrain’s AAJ Holdings, founded by in 1988 by architect Ahmed Abubaker Janahi; AAJ was a primary partner in what turned out to be a failed fresh-from-the-sand multibillion-dollar city in the sultanate of Oman.
A former security worker for Jackson told me that Prince Abdullah fancied himself a talented songwriter and that Abdullah and Jackson recorded a song in 2005 in a Bahrain studio. The never released song, according to the security executive, was a cause for concern since Jackson looked emaciated and strung out. The Daily Beast was not able to confirm the existence of such a recording, although another Jackson employee from 2007 and 2008 claimed to have seen it, and said it was an utter embarrassment.
By that time, Jackson’s personal idiosyncrasies were proving an occasional embarrassment for Abdullah and the royals in the conservative Muslim nation. In November 2005, five months after his arrival, Jackson was spotted re-applying his makeup in the ladies' toilet of a Dubai shopping mall. An Arab woman who photographed the scene on her cellphone was confronted and held by Jackson's bodyguards before being apprehended by the police and her phone confiscated. Jackson’s publicist said the singer did not understand the Arabic sign on the door and left the bathroom when he realized his mistake.
In March 2006, Jackson dressed as a Muslim woman, covered from head to toe in a black abaya, with black gloves and large sunglasses, and took his children through the Marina Mall in the Bahrain capital. All three children were wrapped in black scarves and wore yellow shirts and sweatpants without robes.
Some salespeople noticed he wore men's shoes and they thought the presence of bodyguards was strange. Even the royals move throughout the almost-crime-free capital without security. These forbidden activities prompted a leading conservative Muslim cleric and lawmaker, Adel al-Maawda, to say Jackson was an unwanted envoy of "the iniquities of Las Vegas…. We don't want him turning Bahrain into Las Vegas. He should keep his concerts and his effeminate manners away from us."
But with the protection of Prince Abdullah, Jackson stayed in the kingdom. Michael’s financial troubles had mounted through his costly criminal trial. In April 2006, one of Abdullah’s lawyers, Ahmed al Khan, was instrumental in arranging a deal with New York-based Fortress Investment Group, which refinanced Jackson's loans for $300 million. It brought the singer about $28 million in cash—spending money for the shopaholic Jackson—but meant he put up his own music-publishing company, Mijac, as collateral, and gave Sony the option to buy half of his stake in the Sony/ATV publishing company, for a fixed price. It was a huge victory for Sony, which had long wanted to wrest control of Sony/ATV from the singer.
Jackson left Bahrain in the fall of 2006. He traveled to Japan where he pocketed a million-dollar fee for hosting a Japanese awards show, and then went to Ireland where he stayed at Castlehyde in Cork with his friend, the dancer Michael Flatley. The singer was back full-time in the U.S. on December 23, 2006.
Six months later, Prince Abdullah sued Jackson in London demanding a return of a master recording, and seeking $7 million in damages for Jackson’s failure to produce the book, albums, or play to which he had committed. Jackson denied he had signed anything. By the time the case reached the High Court in London in November 2008, a financial settlement was reached on the eve of when Jackson was due to take the stand. Although the settlement is sealed, a legal source familiar with the proceeding says that Jackson paid the prince at least $4 million.
Jackson’s American advisers have only venom for Abdullah, calling him a “fawning wannabe” who wanted to use Jackson to further his own unrealistic dream of a pop career. Meanwhile, Baharanian sources close to the royals describe Jackson as a freeloader who’s lavish spending and outrageous behavior eventually broke even the patience and bankroll of the prince. Both sides agree, however, that Jackson’s stay on the Arabian peninsula was a disaster for the downward-spiraling pop superstar.
---> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/08/03/jackson-of-arabia.html
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If this isn't enough evidence to convince all of BAM today, I don't know what is!!!!!!!
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
1. It's either a "backwards" statement by negating the truth.
In that case, Paris twit translates into:
"December 21st is probably gonna be the most EXCITING (BAM ?) day in internet history" :affraid: :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
OR
2. December 21st it's gonna be indeed BORING because nothing will happen today... hinting maybe towards the "calm" before the "storm" (BAM) of the next day? IDK....
WHATEVER that means, I love this twit!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/paristtjt.jpg)
Well I may have been over confident about today, but we still have the just before midnight Thriller scenario !!!
And I also want to say that if there is no BAM by Jan 1st I'm not staying or waiting around anymore!! I'm done, I promised my husband I would quite spending time on this. Doesn't mean I won't think he is alive, just won't be involved until it really happens!!
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----> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=16175
Prince Alwaleed and Kingdom Entertainment.
Post by TScottEliot » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:57 am
I don't know if many of you recall of reading about kingdom entertainment.when i came upon this, I dug in deeper and found a very interesting link to some of the ppl involved in TII.
a.Michael met Prince Alwaleed in 1994 in Disneyland Paris.
b.by 1997 they had a joint venture to unite East and West investments called Kingdom Entertainment.
c.apparently the deal did not go through.
d.Prince alwaleed has investments within some of the most important threads of the West society,including Bank of America,Disney,and yes,News Group Co.
e.Kingdom Entertainment financed the History tour and covered the filming of Ghost.the Prince's aid,was the road manager at the time.
f.oddly,the posterior CD;s mention Paul Gongaware as the road manager for History(the double disc)and now producer of TII.
g.I found the connections to these people:
Prince Alwaleed is partners with Rupert Murdoch (Fox News,The Sun,and yes,Global News Group,the paparazzi outside Carolwood street)
h. Murdoch also financed the Martin Bashir Documentary.
i.Murdoch is partners with AEG,and AEG is partners with Prince Alwaleed.
j.AEG financed all involved in TII.Michael apparently did not spend a dime on anything so everything was rented and set up for him.
k.Tom Barrack (Colony Capital) is also partner with Anschutz(AEG)
l.Xanadu complex construction in New Jersey is financed by Colony and AEG and is exactly like MJ's original projects.
m.Tohmme served as PR for colony,
n.Tohmme and Tom Barrack are Lebanese and the Prince's mother is Lebanese.
o.Tohmme was married to Randy Phillip's sister.
p.Tohmme handled the auctions for Juliens and when the buyer for NL came up (the deed)they said they wanted the property intact.
q.The buyer withdrew and that's when the AEG dealings began in 07.
r.Prince alwaleed was going to build a mosque on the twin tower site,but withdrew,using Murdoch as a partner.
s.he also holds shares in Pepsi,Apple,and now,in Sony,at the video game section.
t.it seems that they all became the fabulous pack and planned to smoother Michael to get a hold of the Catalogues...his half was up to 4 billion in 2006.
they own 500 thousand songs.
so who wants to get into the catalogs?
??? ask yourselves.
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I'm still waiting for something hoaxy to happen today...I know it's already 12/22 in some parts of the world but it's not that late in California yet and still 12/21/12. I'm hoping we'll hear something from TS or Front. TS been talking about TODAY for 3 years now. That thread/post from TS in 2009 was posted very late on 12/21/09, it was already the next day for almost everywhere else. I will be very surprised if we don't hear something tonight. As for the 1/1/13 deadline, I'll consider the possible consequences of that when the time comes and until then I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for you know what!!
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She probably deleted the "bang bang" because people are starting to get weirded out over the Sandy Hook School shootings. Kesha's song "Die Young" got pulled from the radio stations yesterday over "insensitivity". So she probably deleted the tweet for the same reason.
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I'm still waiting for something hoaxy to happen today...I know it's already 12/22 in some parts of the world but it's not that late in California yet and still 12/21/12. I'm hoping we'll hear something from TS or Front. TS been talking about TODAY for 3 years now. That thread/post from TS in 2009 was posted very late on 12/21/09, it was already the next day for almost everywhere else. I will be very surprised if we don't hear something tonight. As for the 1/1/13 deadline, I'll consider the possible consequences of that when the time comes and until then I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for you know what!!
yeah - me too...I'm kind of expecting something later today from TS/TS_comments
TIAI Revealed Part 1: Who is behind TIAI was posted at 11:50pm on 12/21/09 ( http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1924.0.html ) and the final part, TIAI revealed Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 was posted at 12:30am on 12/22/09 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,1933.0.html ) .... both California time (I have my Forum time settings to Californian time)
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^^^ actually DWA that post you refer to was made by me (Adi) not AustralianMJbeliever.....but we are both from Australia... :icon_mrgreen:
and you are welcome! I thought it interesting too :icon_albino:
OOPS I must have gotten confused. :icon_e_confused: Thanks for posting Adi. This day must be significant and important. It is the start of the sabbath, it is the first day of winter, it's a galactic alignment, and was predicted on Mayan calendar and others. Interesting.
We'll see what happens. It feels like something is cooking. :ghsdf:
Just "Keep Watchin"
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WOW...wow...wow Sim; thanks for all the information! good job! :th_bravo:
:bearhug:
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@MsTrinity333: I am still not sure whether that December 1st redirect was only about the BAM written in BIG capitalized letters or also about the 7 and BAHRAIN ?
BUT I DO think BAHRAIN & everything [that happened to Michael there & all the people mentioned in those articles above^^] represent ONE major reason for Michael's death hoax, most probably the source of the death THREATS he has been receiving and implicitly the FBI's involvement ---> thus this "area" could be also another target of the STING operation!
I don't know where BAM would happen! I incline to believe it's gonna be from somewhere in US, California lol I doubt He's gonna be in BAHRAIN. On the other hand, Paris's tweeter banner had that ARABIC writing on it, last week right before it changed into the upside down "Don't even worry" - so again that might be a clue? IDK!!
Maybe the redirect about "7 BAM & BAHRAIN" hints that once we'll have the BAM , all the mystery will be revealed and it's gonna be related to BAHRAIN! IDK
And then, there's this other thing about the first 2 redirects we've received this month: TIAI December 1st & TIAI December 12th ---> these redirects hinted to ELVIS too !! Well I've been working my brains out ever since to see how this all fits into the whole HOAX-BAM- BAHRAIN- context!! :Pulling_hair: As I've shown on that montage I made, yesterday the December 21st, 2012, there were EXACTLY 42 years since December 21st, 1970 when ELVIS met with President Nixon and asked him to be made a Federal Agent. [which to me represent the "official" start of ELVIS hoax ! ]. So you see... I'm so puzzled right now!!
ok... I can't get the 7 Bam Michael & Bahain redirect out of my head along with Fronts drawing of the clock pointing to 12:21 :icon_albino:
Then there's with the whole cheesy visa thing having to do with the WMA slotted for the 22nd... :WTF:
Also we have the 21 vs 22 date debate & screen shot of the 911 call times... :animal0017:
SO;
What if there's a redirect TONIGHT @ 12:21? (close to midnight... :icon_razz:)
Wouldn't that make it actually 12:21 on the 22nd? or am I just :icon_geek: and grasping at straws?
Guess we'll know tonight... We'll see if there's a redirect and what it's about. :bearhug:
WoW! That would be a great explanation to why we've had so many clues hinting to both
December 21st and December 22nd ---> it could be the NIGHT between the 2! :icon_e_biggrin: THRILLER NIGHT :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
If I'm not wrong... in California it's 22:30 right now?
We still have 1h30 min till it's MIDNIGHT or "CLOSE TO MIDNIGHT" :icon_e_wink: :michael-jackson:
I also HOPE and PRAY for some THRILL from TS &/or Front around that tIME or later this night !!! :bowdown:
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/PhotoPlusSerif/Misc/Paris12-21-12_zps2254ddd0.jpg)
Of course we can't forget the line in her daddy's song....They Don't Care About Us.....very significant song and the 1st footage we saw from This Is It after MJ "died".....
"bang bang shot dead, everybody's gone mad"
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^^^ actually DWA that post you refer to was made by me (Adi) not AustralianMJbeliever.....but we are both from Australia... :icon_mrgreen:
and you are welcome! I thought it interesting too :icon_albino:
OOPS I must have gotten confused. :icon_e_confused: Thanks for posting Adi. This day must be significant and important. It is the start of the sabbath, it is the first day of winter, it's a galactic alignment, and was predicted on Mayan calendar and others. Interesting.
We'll see what happens. It feels like something is cooking. :ghsdf:
Just "Keep Watchin"
No worries - it's all cool! :icon_mrgreen:
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Okay so with my BAMzified mind I interpreted the new FB entry accordingly so bear with me :icon_lol:
Michael Jackson
il y a 2 heures
7” Sleeves: Here’s a Dutch 7” sleeve for “Black Or White”! Do you have one of these in your collection?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c1.0.403.403/p403x403/309100_10151294869196473_1638740771_n.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson?ref=stream
What I find interesting is that they chose to say a "Dutch sleeve". Is there really any difference? lol Hmmm maybe a little wink in our direction? :suspect: And I took "Black or White" as Now or Never. :icon_lol:
Yeah I now........... :icon_geek:
I guess you're right, Sarahli. We also have a user here who has a similar picture in her sig! It's marumjj! It's a wink, no doubt!
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In this case, I was joking about MJ leaving from LA on June 25, 2009, and driving directly to Bahrain in a car--that, of course, was a joke. But just because MJ did not go direct from LA to Bahrain on 6-25-09 (via car--or even airplane or boat), does not mean that he has never once been in Bahrain since the day he "died". Elvis, for example, has traveled around quite a bit during his "dead" life.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg430154.html#msg430154
If MJ and the Prince settled amicably, but there was danger to MJ from those connections, why would TS suggest that MJ had been back there since 2009? Did the press including Roger Friedman have it totally wrong?
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9eef412617df7480b189d96c61f359b2/tumblr_mfcah9G8Es1qg132eo1_500.jpg)
Earth is waiting 4HERO..
and HE WILL COME>
:michael_jackson-1135: :woohoo2:
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It's 01.54 a.m Dec 22 in California and no BAM yet, why we have been given so many clues/hints/whispers about Dec 21st 2012?, nah!!
Ok thinking with a cold brain---> if this forum is public as it's, how come TS or Front (if they are really close to Michael o Michael himself in the case of Front) could give us "publicly" clear clues about BAM if Michael has really been death threatened? so that leads me to think that he might BAM anytime between Dec 21 and Jan 1s so he will catch us by surprise and nobody (bad guys) will be able to jump on him, JMO.
I am just killing time: bang bang, since I am not able to eat or sleep, or..... :over-react-smiley:
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Soooo, no TS yesterday then. Ah well, a new day, a new hope. Let's see what the day brings!
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...glad I said
I'm kind of expecting something later today from TS/TS_comments
:LolLolLolLol:
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Just googled "Michael Jackson is still alive" to see if any new news came up. Saw this quote from Jermaine saying this hoax talk helps noone and Michael is not alive. Not necessarily a bad thing. Think of how many times Jermaine has willingly and effectively lied throughout this whole thing. And it actually draws more attention to the idea. Oh here's the link to what I read. http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5012
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wasn't there some sort of finacial meltdown in bahrain shortly after the time of june 25th 2009? it's funny that this is something that i has stuck with me that i would have noticed it (not something if would have given a hoot in hell about yet i remember it :LolLolLolLol:) is there not also a connection with the whole bahrain thing and jermaine , like he is the one who got mike involved with this guy to begin with?
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Just googled "Michael Jackson is still alive" to see if any new news came up. Saw this quote from Jermaine saying this hoax talk helps noone and Michael is not alive. Not necessarily a bad thing. Think of how many times Jermaine has willingly and effectively lied throughout this whole thing. And it actually draws more attention to the idea. Oh here's the link to what I read. http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5012
Jermaine Jackson statement to fans: Michael is not alive
(http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Jermaine-Jackson-4-150x150.jpg)
The following statement was made by Jermaine Jackson on Twitter today:
“I hadn’t wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief.
I have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all”
sources : Legendary MJ, Jermaine Jackson
BTW correct me if I am wrong but there is none of that in Jermaine's twitter, check it out:
https://twitter.com/jermjackson5
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That is an old statement from 2011
Love that advert above Jermaine's head :animal0017:
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:ghsdf:
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will we read anything from TS today? it would be soo good to have some whisper... :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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off topic, whispers made me think of it, sorry so add :LolLolLolLol: but i have always loved this one
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tut4gLT8OpA[/youtube]
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@suspicious: thank youuuuuuuuuu (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/envoie-baiser-492.GIF)
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Just googled "Michael Jackson is still alive" to see if any new news came up. Saw this quote from Jermaine saying this hoax talk helps noone and Michael is not alive. Not necessarily a bad thing. Think of how many times Jermaine has willingly and effectively lied throughout this whole thing. And it actually draws more attention to the idea. Oh here's the link to what I read. http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5012
Jermaine Jackson statement to fans: Michael is not alive
(http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Jermaine-Jackson-4-150x150.jpg)
The following statement was made by Jermaine Jackson on Twitter today:
“I hadn’t wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief.
I have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all”
sources : Legendary MJ, Jermaine Jackson
BTW correct me if I am wrong but there is none of that in Jermaine's twitter, check it out:
https://twitter.com/jermjackson5
SymPattyK
That is an old statement from 2011
Love that advert above Jermaine's head :animal0017:
Furthermore how come Jermaine is saying Michael is not alive and appears smiling on that pic? hmmmm, is it a joke? Yes I think so.
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Furthermore how come Jermaine is saying Michael is not alive and appears smiling on that pic? hmmmm, is it a joke?
I know huh. Can't take anything he says seriously with that smile!
For those who hadn't seen that before, that statement is nothing to worry about. It simply wasn't find to reveal hoax then and he was attempting to appease suspicions and make us look crazy because hoaxers were joining dots so thoroughly. Not time for hoax to escalate to a general public level, so released the statement.
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TIAI December 20th 2012 - REDIRECT
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(http://i43.tinypic.com/20u4lf6.png)
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Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013".
Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st.
We also had some @Front - clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve!
@Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below...
What do you guys think?
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjpinkkdk.jpg)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg379960.html#msg379960
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397823.html#msg397823
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.2075.html
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.msg348767.html#msg348767
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? Is it possible that the BAM is happening as we speak but we are looking only for Michael's return when we should be looking elsewhere?
Would Michael's return really shake the world to its core? WE think so, but Michael thinks bigger. He thinks impossible.
No, I think there is a hoax going on that makes his death hoax look like child's play. :affraid:
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What do you guys think?
I think we're better off not trying to guess!
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@curls: Why not guessing? It's fun and way better than fighting....
Or maybe we should leave all the forum? Is that better?
On the other hand... we're doing more than just guessing, we're analyzing all the clues and possibilities available so far.
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".
Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".
Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
I don't think we disagree and perhaps I should restate what I was trying to convey. What if Michael's return is part, perhaps the centerpiece, of the BAM. What if the BAM has begun, as we hoped, but we have not yet seen it because it's rather subtle at the moment, like the faint sound of music in the background.
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@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone?
I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur.....
It seems like what the Bible says about end of times in Matthew:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Blessings
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".
Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
I agree with you and I agree that the clock hinting Dec 21st was maybe just pointing out the change of an era would happen so he would be able to BAM to help for a better world before Jan 1st 2013 as per TS.
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@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone?
Yesss.
Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far.
So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING !
I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur.....
I agree.
But I like trying...
Just sitting and waiting and doing nothing would kill me! lol :icon_lol:
Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".
Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
I don't think we disagree and perhaps I should restate what I was trying to convey. What if Michael's return is part, perhaps the centerpiece, of the BAM. What if the BAM has begun, as we hoped, but we have not yet seen it because it's rather subtle at the moment, like the faint sound of music in the background.
Ok, I see what you mean now. Yes you may be right.
And in what way do you see this subtle background of the BAM that has already begun? I mean how can we distinguish it? Or what makes you think that way? Did we ignore some signs / clues and that's why we can't see ?
I agree with you and I agree that the clock hinting Dec 21st was maybe just pointing out the change of an era would happen so he would be able to BAM to help for a better world before Jan 1st 2013 as per TS.
Yes I think that's a good explanation to WHY we've received so many hints about December 21st! The END of a world and the BEGINNING of a new better one.
What still puzzles me is why TS mentioned in one of the Signs that we won't grow old, referring thus to a possible future cataclysm ending all our lives. I still can't say whether it was just a metaphorical meaning or a literal, biblical one.
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@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone?
Yesss.
Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far.
So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING !
TS said the BAM will happen before the end of 2012 though. But I do agree that New Year's countdown is very plausible. Just pondering about the misspelt 'Momment' in Front's drawing. It has to be on purpose... This is probably very far fetched, but 2 'm's made me think about 'Man in the Mirror', so I wondered it the clock is meant to be read inverted (horizontally), which would be around 11.39. Maybe that's around the time that BAM happens, but this line of reasoning is far fetched even for me. If the hoax is in California time, then is there a countdown event that's huge in CA? The crystal ball event is the one in NYC right?
Anyway, the 22nd isn't the end for CA yet... so BAM might still happen today :)
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TS said the BAM will happen before the end of 2012 though. But I do agree that New Year's countdown is very plausible. Just pondering about the misspelt 'Momment' in Front's drawing. It has to be on purpose... This is probably very far fetched, but 2 'm's made me think about 'Man in the Mirror', so I wondered it the clock is meant to be read inverted (horizontally), which would be around 11.39. Maybe that's around the time that BAM happens, but this line of reasoning is far fetched even for me. If the hoax is in California time, then is there a countdown event that's huge in CA? The crystal ball event is the one in NYC right?
Anyway, the 22nd isn't the end for CA yet... so BAM might still happen today :)
Interesting idea about the double M [intentionally misspelled] and the Man in the Mirror! and the mirrored image of the clock! wow!
I'm not sure, but I remember that there were some discussions about Front's misspelling when he posted that clock and someone said that the misspelling was some "code" that linked Front to Back who also misspelled words intentionally. So the double M was some sort of confirmation that Front is in fact Back or related to him.
Someone who knows better, pls correct me if I'm wrong.
It would be great if BAM happens today!! :icon_bounce:
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/santaphone.jpg)
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Aurelian established December 25 as the birthday of the INVINCIBLE SUN in the 3d century as part of the Roman Winter Solstice celebrations.
In 273 the Christian church selected this day to represent the birthday of Jesus, and by 336 this Roman solar feast day was Christianized.
Ancient men feared the darkness for it was personified death to them. In the absence of light from the Sun man was vulnerable to bad things.
We get the term "the devil" from this concept as the Ancients connected the ideas of "evil" and "darkness" together. Dark + evil = devil.
Sun, the provider of light, security, safety, heat, and photosynthesis and the abundance of food stuffs was the Savior of the Ancients.
So for primitive man Dec. 22 was the start of winter and marked the beginning of the worst stage of his yearly struggle for survival.
Primitive men believed the Sun had died as they could detect no movement of the Sun in the sky for 3 days. Solstice means 'a turning point'.
The early pre-Christians established rituals concerning this period: the sun lays in a grave for 3 days, but then shall be resurrected.
When the pre-Christians wrote of the resurrection of the Sun, they meant exactly that. It did not refer to a person, but to the Solar Sun.
Later Gentile ancestors had changed the Sun to Son. The priesthood told the pagans the SON (Christ) was born on Dec 25, just like their SUN.
So most of the customs, symbols & rituals associated with Christmas actually are linked to Winter Solstice celebrations of ancient Pagans.
"The sun will rise again, bigger and brighter, emblazoned in gold…like a beacon whose physical existence was provisionally "extinguished"…but never forgotten. Those "flames" are the heart of the passionate inferno of resurgence that awaits....
... Just as the Earth is sure to rotate on its axis, the resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story…and the truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth. Momentarily, the world will quake, for there will be a cosmic shift in "dogma"."
/ Front /
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Anyone else think BAM could be Christmas Day with this link to the sun I've posted above?
Plus I remember the Christmas decorations and reefs at the house and neverland remember?
Maybe 22nd is the start of a new dawn and era but Michael
comes back on 25th Dec Christmas Day?
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Gotta do it......Juke Box, you had mentioned you thought "momment" must have been spelled that way for a reason.....
Gematria game time:
93 = momment = "end of days", "light being", poster, Nazareth, crucifix, tonight, seventh, Angel Gabriel, Louvre, thankful....and Wacko Jacko (sorry)
Crazy coincidental stuff.......I don't know what to think about it all anymore. I have posted so many of these....yes, words are just words...they will match things. But when things like "Wacko Jacko" match.....I have to pause and go .......WTFoosball is going on here???????
Great stuff here...TS, Front feel free to jump in and call me crazy.......I am sure you are way too busy however...the holidays are an important family time. I have always felt that even if Christmas is not celebrated outright as Jesus' birth time, it's a natural time of reflection upon one's life and family. My Jewish grandmother loved this time of year for the lights, the sounds, the happiness in the air......
(sadly that happiness is diminishing :icon_e_sad:)
May you be blessed always TS & Front...whoever you are.
Blessings Always
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It is an assumption that the watch clock says 12:21. There's no numbers on the clock. But if we add numbers like a conventional clock, the position of the hour hand indicates more like 11:20-something rather then 12:00-anything. The conventional clock TS posted shows this when the watch clock is compared to it side-by-side, thank you Sim.
But again, with no numbers, assigning the watch clock a conventional time hours:minutes requires an assumption. What it literally shows is the "hour" hand pointing to Day and the "minute" hand pointing just past halfway between Future and Night. So what "time" is that? To me that's "this evening" if I had to guess anything.
Maybe the point is that time, as we define it, is just a mankind-given quantification for the rotation of the Earth. And it's not even a very good one, since we have to add [something like] 0.3 seconds each year to stay in step with mother nature. In all our glory... the best we can do is still 0.3 seconds off her perfection.
And the point is forget time, enjoy the moment. I think "momment" is just a typo, as MJ typo'ed this at least once before, at least a sample of his "verified" handwriting misspelling "momment" was posted here on the forum. We all have words we tend to misspell. I have several that I stubbornly misspell every time I use them, thank goodness for spell check. You all would be appalled if I didn't have it. So if I hand write something I'm in trouble, then all the personal typos come out.
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@Bec: great observations and interesting comments about TIME! :icon_e_wink:
For some reason I still think "moMent" was an intentional misspelling, though...
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I don't think it's a random typo.
Expression of speaking it out loud to make the meaning visible.
"mommment" is short
whereas "moooment" is long.
This effect is called "onomatopoeia" and this word has indeed its roots in Greek.
Although in the English language the term onomatopœia means the imitation of a sound, in the Greek language the compound word onomatopœia (ονοματοποιία) means "making or creating names".
Source: wiki
Creating names.
I'd say we've seen many created names, expressions and connotations on the way.
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Gotta do it......Juke Box, you had mentioned you thought "momment" must have been spelled that way for a reason.....
Gematria game time:
93 = momment = "end of days", "light being", poster, Nazareth, crucifix, tonight, seventh, Angel Gabriel, Louvre, thankful....and Wacko Jacko (sorry)
Crazy coincidental stuff.......I don't know what to think about it all anymore. I have posted so many of these....yes, words are just words...they will match things. But when things like "Wacko Jacko" match.....I have to pause and go .......WTFoosball is going on here???????
Great stuff here...TS, Front feel free to jump in and call me crazy.......I am sure you are way too busy however...the holidays are an important family time. I have always felt that even if Christmas is not celebrated outright as Jesus' birth time, it's a natural time of reflection upon one's life and family. My Jewish grandmother loved this time of year for the lights, the sounds, the happiness in the air......
(sadly that happiness is diminishing :icon_e_sad:)
May you be blessed always TS & Front...whoever you are.
Blessings Always
Thank you Wishy! It is indeed STUNNING what this Gematria analysis can bring out! :icon_eek:
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I didn't say I thought it was random. I agree it could be intentional. I said it's a word MJ was known to misspell at least once. That is all. Draw your own conclusion.
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Yep. Makes the intention behind one that has grown over many years.
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TIAI December 20th 2012 - REDIRECT
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Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013".
Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st.
We also had some @Front - clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve!
@Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below...
What do you guys think?
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjpinkkdk.jpg)
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg379960.html#msg379960
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397823.html#msg397823
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.2075.html
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.msg348767.html#msg348767
This reminds me of something I saw about getting to "zero point". That's when we get to a point where the past,present,and future meet. I guess it's like starting over or evolving but maybe it all depends on how you developed in the past ? Does anyone know ?
I have no idea about BAM dates except that I am trusting TS for now. If it doesn't happen then maybe it's for a good reason or maybe TS is a false informer. It doesn't matter because in either case we know that MJ is alive. That's what counts anyway.
Here's a video that helped me and maybe you will like it too. I'm hoping these Pleidians are for real but even if they're not I like their messages and music. It seems like they use the love frequency of 528 hz. Here's one called "Love is the Solution for Everything" and then it is connected to 14 more messages. Spreading love will help the whole process. :icon_idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zT5-sJrHtqU#!
@Sim and others I saw that you mentioned "close to midnight". I was also thinking about "The Break of Dawn" after I saw Day and Night on the clock. The Dawn or a new beginning. The "Day" on the clock looks like it's where the past,present,future meet. The point where a new beginning or dawn starts.
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@Dontwalkaway: AWESOME Interpretation of that clock!! You're right could be the Break of Dawn too!!
Speaking of which.... it's 7 a.m. in Romania, I think I should go to sleep !! :icon_lol: This was one of the best white nights ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0007.gif)
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Are the BAM and Michael's return the same thing? [...]
read that TS quote about his deadline. He mentions this twice: "MJ will BAM" and "BAM from MJ".
Then we have been discussing all this time about the PURPOSE of this hoax and about the fact that what comes AFTER the BAM is of UTMOST IMPORTANCE for Michael and us as his "Army of LOVE". So yes, it definitely is about Michael returning and "leading the way" :moonwalk_: for a better world
I don't think we disagree and perhaps I should restate what I was trying to convey. What if Michael's return is part, perhaps the centerpiece, of the BAM. What if the BAM has begun, as we hoped, but we have not yet seen it because it's rather subtle at the moment, like the faint sound of music in the background.
Ok, I see what you mean now. Yes you may be right.
And in what way do you see this subtle background of the BAM that has already begun? I mean how can we distinguish it? Or what makes you think that way? Did we ignore some signs / clues and that's why we can't see ?
As such things are beyond the scope of the MJ hoax and as I dare not risk expulsion from the forum again :affraid:, I merely refer you to my most recent postings on Hoaxbook!
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@curls: Why not guessing? It's fun and way better than fighting....
Or maybe we should leave all the forum? Is that better?
On the other hand... we're doing more than just guessing, we're analyzing all the clues and possibilities available so far.
Yes, I'm sorry - I wasn't trying to curb your enthusiasm - it just struck me as funny how when 22nd didn't happen, you moved right on to the next without batting an eyelid! You seemingly don't really believe in any of your 'analysis' - it's just exploratory fun, right?!
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Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
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Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
I think it's the best (last) bet. Question: I was trying to find that video of MJ being used to announce something in the Financial district, I think Wall Street, (wasn't it a countdown of something?) but can't find it. Anyone remember?
Curls
Yes, I'm sorry - I wasn't trying to curb your enthusiasm - it just struck me as funny how when 22nd didn't happen, you moved right on to the next without batting an eyelid!
:icon_lol: No time to sit around and mope--moving right along. And I suspect we'll do that after Jan 1, even if nothing happens. :errrr: :icon_rolleyes: :over-react-smiley: Our love for MJ (and enigmatic TS/Front) and his hoax will continue on... :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
I really believe SOMETHING will happen... My family keeps asking me what's going to happen, and I have to keep saying, I DON'T KNOW. :screaming-7365: :icon_lol: But I'll know when it happens!!
:abouttime: :michael_jackson-1135:
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@curls: Why not guessing? It's fun and way better than fighting....
Or maybe we should leave all the forum? Is that better?
On the other hand... we're doing more than just guessing, we're analyzing all the clues and possibilities available so far.
Yes, I'm sorry - I wasn't trying to curb your enthusiasm - it just struck me as funny how when 22nd didn't happen, you moved right on to the next without batting an eyelid! You seemingly don't really believe in any of your 'analysis' - it's just exploratory fun, right?!
Oh don't worry, my enthusiasm cannot be "curbed", not so easily and especially not NOW.
December 21st and 22nd clues are real, not just my imagination and they were meant for us to catch up on for some reason!
As my signature reads: POSSIBLE --> so I never stated 100% certainty.
Don't be so rush as to laugh and criticize. You chose to sit and wait, fine. I chose to EXPLORE (YES! That's why I am here!!) and have FUN at the same time! And I don't regret anything, I don't regret any BAM date estimation and I WON"T regret it either not even if MJ doesn't BAM at all.
If that's funny to you, then be my guest, laugh all you can.
Everyone finds their own sources for laughter.
At least I make you laugh! You only ridicule :icon_rolleyes:
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Sim, I'm not ridiculing. Please don't roll your eyes at me. I'm just trying to understand you - and if it's all fun for you that's fine by me.
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Yes you're ridiculing. You said it's funny ! not me!
:icon_rolleyes:
PS: Yes, I have FUN, but together with those participating! I am not just sitting on the "margin" and laugh at the others when they're wrong! That's why I am rolling eyes!!
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As such things are beyond the scope of the MJ hoax and as I dare not risk expulsion from the forum again :affraid:, I merely refer you to my most recent postings on Hoaxbook!
OKAY!! I see now where you're getting at! :affraid: All part of the hoax!! OMG! That would be freaking awesome!!! :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_albino: I already LOVE how DUMB the media looks like!!! The sweetest revenge I_DEED!! :icon_lol:
Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
Yes ! :icon_e_wink: that Front quote is on the montage above ^^ with the clocks
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Curls didn't ridicule you, Sim.
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Curls didn't ridicule you, Sim.
According to your opinion? Maybe!
Because according to MY opinion. She DID.
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Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
I think it's the best (last) bet. Question: I was trying to find that video of MJ being used to announce something in the Financial district, I think Wall Street, (wasn't it a countdown of something?) but can't find it. Anyone remember?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL26wY3joMo[/youtube]
He opened NASDAQ (in Times Square) on August 30, 2001. I love CNN's caption - "HE'S BAD, HE'S BACK"
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Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
I think it's the best (last) bet. Question: I was trying to find that video of MJ being used to announce something in the Financial district, I think Wall Street, (wasn't it a countdown of something?) but can't find it. Anyone remember?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL26wY3joMo[/youtube]
He opened NASDAQ (in Times Square) on August 30, 2001. I love CNN's caption - "HE'S BAD, HE'S BACK"
remember the epic records tweet? it said "he's back" and posted a link to Michael's official bad video ...
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remember the epic records tweet? it said "he's back" and posted a link to Michael's official bad video ...
That's right, I had forgotten about that! I found a thread from one of our archived forums...the timing of that is quite interesting, from June 2, 2011 - only one day after Front joined the forum... and the tweet was "I'M BACK". Whoa.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=19389
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Curls didn't ridicule you, Sim.
According to your opinion? Maybe!
Because according to MY opinion. She DID.
Clearly not maybe.
If you consider what curls said to you as ridicule, what is this?:
Was it moldy cheese to go with people's whining?
:thjajaja121:
:thjajaja121:
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That is taken out of context and has nothing to do with me and Curls. But make of it what you wish, since you’re obviously eager to find fault where it isn’t, just to make Curls look „innocent” when in fact she isn’t.
Bec look: I’m not in for your fights and schemes. Find yourself some other method to discharge your anger and frustrations.
^^ What I told @Curls above^^ is available for all the "watchers" who feel "courageous" to ridicule when others make mistakes.
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Look in the mirror Sim.
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remember the epic records tweet? it said "he's back" and posted a link to Michael's official bad video ...
That's right, I had forgotten about that! I found a thread from one of our archived forums...the timing of that is quite interesting, from June 2, 2011 - only one day after Front joined the forum... and the tweet was "I'M BACK". Whoa.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=19389
The NASDAQ connection is interesting! Had forgotten about it me too!!
TKS for that link Andrea.
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I would only ASK…..that you all be kind to each other while "sitting in the waiting room"..
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I would only ASK…..that you all be kind to each other while "sitting in the waiting room"..
:bearhug:
:bearhug:
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CAN WE PLEASE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT ON HERE???
I am SO done with the childish behaviour. If it continues I will close the whole fucking board until 2013 when everyone is done with the 'OMG NO BAM' shit.
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I would only ASK…..that you all be kind to each other while "sitting in the waiting room"..
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Michael ASKED people before Front ( Whoever this person might be ) to treat each other kindly and all , but a few people listened to him and did what he asked them to do . In a board dedicated to Michael , I find it frustrating to see ppl treating each other that way .
The thing is we're all different but we all want the same thing , let's not let our different beliefs tear us apart coz after all .. we're through this TOGETHER .
@ Andrea , thank you for posting that link ! Made me think , If Sony owns Epic Records and The Official Michael Jackson website , How could it be that they are sending us clues and hints about the hoax ?
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Andrea, thanks for finding that. I have to go now, but I'll watch it later. There was some weird things said that could be prophetic I remember thinking.
Sim, I saw no ridicule in Curls words, just light friendly humor. :icon_e_biggrin:
:bearhug:
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@ Andrea , thank you for posting that link ! Made me think , If Sony owns Epic Records and The Official Michael Jackson website , How could it be that they are sending us clues and hints about the hoax ?
Well there has definitely been debate as to whether Sony is good or bad. But I think it would only take one key person in an influential position in the company (could be more than one person) to send the clues and hints, likely with direction from MJ. That's my thinking anyways.
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@ Andrea , thank you for posting that link ! Made me think , If Sony owns Epic Records and The Official Michael Jackson website , How could it be that they are sending us clues and hints about the hoax ?
Well there has definitely been debate as to whether Sony is good or bad. But I think it would only take one key person in an influential position in the company (could be more than one person) to send the clues and hints, likely with direction from MJ. That's my thinking anyways.
Yes, it's not impossible.
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Sim, since you have mentioned crystal ball drops at Times Square, I can not get that feeling out of my head...as we know Front mentioned some similar phrase, it could have some meaning... so december 31 till january 1 we should watch more carefully :icon_razz:
I think it's the best (last) bet. Question: I was trying to find that video of MJ being used to announce something in the Financial district, I think Wall Street, (wasn't it a countdown of something?) but can't find it. Anyone remember?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL26wY3joMo[/youtube]
He opened NASDAQ (in Times Square) on August 30, 2001. I love CNN's caption - "HE'S BAD, HE'S BACK"
sorry for the lazy brain here but when did michael fire branca? reason i asked is because one of the guys here asked him if branca was with him and he simply said no he's in l.a. just wondering.
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Andrea, that link you gave to the “I’M BACK” Bad25 was also interesting in that Gina posted the photo of the day, on June 3, 2011 as this: http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/photo-day-6
MJ on the cover of NOTW Apr 1985 issue, “Sun day”. Reminds me of Jermaine’s name change to Jacksun, as well as The Sign #1 telling of the coming Mark of the Beast being the Sunday law to come into effect.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/sundaysls.jpg)
But okay back to the MJ at Nasdaq video you kindly posted, there's something about the words that are said that make me imagine a certain kind of Bam. And MJ's act of starting business like he's in charge, overturning TPTB. "On Michael's command we begin!" I know it's back in 2001, but it may be a clue planted for now.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/nasdaq2001.jpg)
Announcer: MJ about to ring the opening bell… and start the day of business. Big campaign to to kick off his new single and album. Also celebrating 30 years as a solo artist. MJ turning 43 (7!) years old, doesn’t that make you feel old…
(“He’s Bad, He’s Back” and CNN live, displayed on screen.)
MJ looks at the counter thingy he’s given that looks like it has a round crystal ball inside, and says, “Look, it’s floating in the air”. The guy says, “That’s what you’re floating in the air there, near the microphone, on the big billboard, it’s up there. You are floating up there, so everybody can see you. At night you’ll be up there and during the day... Is John Branca with you?
MJ, “No he’s in LA. This is Times Square?
Guy, “That’s the new Times Square….You’re going to push at 9:30 in 18 seconds. (Stock watch)…9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2...
Announcer, “Not your average day on Nasdaq, MJ starting the business day…Nasdaq could use a bit of a boost, they’ve been having 3 days of losing markets, Nasdaq was down 21 points. Dow down 131 points yesterday.”
Okay then going back to TS’, The Coincidence Test.
Anyway, if you want to try the coincidence test: start a thread (in the TIAI subforum) titled: “The Coincidence Test”. Then take a guess at what the last two digits (right of the decimal) will be in the Dow, Nasdaq, and S&P 500, once the stock market closes for the day {see http://http://finance.yahoo.com/}. You must state your guess at least 24 hours in advance; and also identify which date your guess applies to (use the date based upon a time zone in the USA); the digits remain in view for more than 12 hours after the market closes, so there is plenty of time to see if your guess was right (they are also recorded permanently).
Make sure you identify which two digits go with Dow, and which ones go with Nasdaq, and which ones with S&P 500. For example: Dow = .77; Nasdaq = .79; S&P 500 = .99; this will make a six-digit number (777,999), which has a one chance in a million of being correct (000,000 to 999,999). These stock market decimal numbers are quite random, and nobody will be able to know them 24 hours in advance (or control them); so if someone gets all six digits correct, then that will be a one-in-a-million coincidence!
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,14058.0.html
This is another reason I think TS is MJ. He was there that day at Nasdaq, and typically he tries to learn all he can during these types of visits, asking lots of questions.
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guys i think we gotta be clear, very clear if MJ doesnt show up till jan 1st, on two things:
* if he doesnt show up till that day, it will be official that MJ is DEAD, would be sad but true, but we gotta assume it...
* another thing we should notice is that TS was a fake, an impostor and was playin our heads because he just wanted to have fun using our loyalty, faith and word.
nothing is happening, not even a redirect: i think that TS thought the 21-12-12 was gonna be the end of the world, since nothing happened, hes just trapped in his own game... im very upset.
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I'm no cheerleader for TS these days but TS did say the world probably wouldn't end on 12/21/12, but some time shortly after, ie no one on Earth would grow old unless they were already close to old.
If he doesn't come back by 1/1/13, it doesn't mean MJ is dead, it just means TS can't be taken at his word, which is not new information in these here parts.
It'll all be alright.
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@g32........with all due respect, we don't have a right to be "very upset". I am sure Michael was, "very upset" at many things in his life.
We have gathered here, out of respect and love for him....not become very upset because his timing does not fit our wishes. The man lived for
other people's wishes.....I am choosing to be as patient as needed in this adventure. Nothing will sway my faith in Michael.....not even a non-BAM....
though I have my hopes, I have no fears. If it happens, I'll be the most excited girl on the planet (I know, that's a stretch, lol....lots of people will be)
However, if it doesn't happen....it's OK.....it's Michael's hoax, Michael's life......nothing to be upset or nervous about. Have faith, my friend....just
have that faith of Job. We may not see him, but we can and do feel him.........
I am sending you an extra dose of love and hugs for this Christmas season, and New Years.........
:bearhug:
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but dont forget that TS said that, in his very own words: if MJ doesnt show up by 1-1-13 you will be able to say TS was a liar... thats what TS quoted. did you get to read it?
plus one of MJ's plan is to give a lesson to everybody in the world not to believe in what the dirty media says... and with his appearence he would achieve that goal clearly...
idk i will just wait till jan 1st.
peace :)
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I agree with you, g32, re: MJ's reappearance but TS said "fake informer" not "liar".
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I agree with you, g32, re: MJ's reappearance but TS said "fake informer" not "liar".
This is what TS said:
Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!! Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ. However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended. I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!
The question is: what's does BAM mean?, maybe it's not the same as coming back (to public eye) immediately!
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I agree with you, g32, re: MJ's reappearance but TS said "fake informer" not "liar".
This is what TS said:
Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!! Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ. However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended. I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!
The question is: what's does BAM mean?, maybe it's not the same as coming back (to public eye) immediately!
THANK YOU! With all due respect, I have been saying this for quite awhile with little response from anyone else. There is NO WHERE in TII where he makes this direct connection, but we have made this assumption and we know what it means to assume something.
To me a BAM is an explosion like in the comics. Perhaps something will explode?????
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
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:th_bravo:
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@g32........with all due respect, we don't have a right to be "very upset". I am sure Michael was, "very upset" at many things in his life.
We have gathered here, out of respect and love for him....not become very upset because his timing does not fit our wishes. The man lived for
other people's wishes.....I am choosing to be as patient as needed in this adventure. Nothing will sway my faith in Michael.....not even a non-BAM....
though I have my hopes, I have no fears. If it happens, I'll be the most excited girl on the planet (I know, that's a stretch, lol....lots of people will be)
However, if it doesn't happen....it's OK.....it's Michael's hoax, Michael's life......nothing to be upset or nervous about. Have faith, my friend....just
have that faith of Job. We may not see him, but we can and do feel him.........
I am sending you an extra dose of love and hugs for this Christmas season, and New Years.........
:bearhug:
I totally agree !! People need to realise that it is Michael's decision , Michael's choice .. I sometimes get so confused because many ppl claim that they DO trust Michael but whenever they find out that THEIR assumptions were wrong , they just get upset and start losing faith .. the thing which I believe they didn't have at the first place ! We owe Michael this trust as an expression of our gratitude to him , would it kill us to open our hearts a bit more now that we've come this far ?
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There is one thing I learned about Michael, since I was 5! I would sit in my living room and watch his 30th anniversary concert. (Yeah, I'm a youngin' haha) Anyways, one thing I noticed and I've said this before, when the world said no, he said yes. (he also said it himself) He knew that if he wanted to, he could go beyond what people ever thought was possible. He was a smart thinker and thought things out. He worked wonderful under pressure and had a purpose for everything. So keep that in mind everyone, Michael knows what he's doing. He had a plan for everything!
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
Eeexcellent post.... :D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKUOB8MN4Kc[/youtube]
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TS, if you're reading, Merry Christmas!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5MpQsLJvOw[/youtube]
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone! :icon_e_smile:
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@TS, Front, and everyone...especially Mike...wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a BAMtastic New Year!
I'm in the middle of a competition of The Experience with 20 people at my place and I'm kicking butt :icon_mrgreen:
:multiplespotting:
Sending a huge dose of love and light to all!
With L.O.V.E. always.
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hi everyone. i haven't posted in (i think) over a year, but i've been catching up on what's going on. i can see that this deadline TS has given the board has some people on edge. personally, after believing in this hoax since (almost) the beginning, i think the BAM will include michael's presence. if some major announcement were to be made without michael, those who have not "kept the faith" (the majority of the public) will, in my opinion, completely interpret the entire message and point of the hoax as some kind of a joke. i believe that the BAM will be big, he will be in it to be physically seen and it will make everyone really reflect on what exactly is going on in the world.
however, regardless of the BAM, just remember:
(http://s7.postimage.org/pnguqhaiz/mjmemorial.jpg)
keep the faith. oh, and happy holidays everyone! :)
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Totally Agree! :icon_e_biggrin:
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Read the quote exactly:
I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!
"May". Again, "may" means "allow" or "able to"; quite literal translation.
I think that when MJ doesn't come back by 1/1/13, we will finally be ALLOWED TO/ABLE TO (capable of discovering-- because MJ will not Bam by then) know that TS/TS_comments was a fake informer all along. Problem is, what part was fake.
Nice checkmate.
@g32 and everyone else, don't let anyone ever tell you what you SHOULD feel or what you have a RIGHT to feel. Our feeling are our own and we may lose rights to even our freedom but that is one inalienable human right that can never be taken away from you by anyone; is the right to your feelings. Your original version of your post was fine.
Re: the hoax, the whole thing is BS if it's unauthorized. I have no faith in TS or TS_comments or Front but they are just usernames associated with an account on a forum. If MJ is alive and he is authorizing this then I have faith in his intentions and that keeps me from jumping ship.
MJ isn't going to bam by 1/1/13, that's the point, makes sense. TS is a fake informer but which parts were fake and which parts were real? But again, is it MJ behind it all, or is it someone seeking to cash in on MJ's name, or is it someone preparing their Psyche doctorate?
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Read the quote exactly:
I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!
"May". Again, "may" means "allow" or "able to"; quite literal translation.
I think that when MJ doesn't come back by 1/1/13, we will finally be ALLOWED TO/ABLE TO (capable of discovering-- because MJ will not Bam by then) know that TS/TS_comments was a fake informer all along. Problem is, what part was fake.
Nice checkmate.
@g32 and everyone else, don't let anyone ever tell you what you SHOULD feel or what you have a RIGHT to feel. Our feeling are our own and we may lose rights to even our freedom but that is one inalienable human right that can never be taken away from you by anyone; is the right to your feelings. Your original version of your post was fine.
Re: the hoax, the whole thing is BS if it's unauthorized. I have no faith in TS or TS_comments or Front but they are just usernames associated with an account on a forum. If MJ is alive and he is authorizing this then I have faith in his intentions and that keeps me from jumping ship.
MJ isn't going to bam by 1/1/13, that's the point, makes sense. TS is a fake informer but which parts were fake and which parts were real? But again, is it MJ behind it all, or is it someone seeking to cash in on MJ's name, or is it someone preparing their Psyche doctorate?
Bec... when TS said in that post, if "MJ doesn't BAM by January 1, 2013...." was he taking the same meaning of Bam as we are...that is comeback...? did TS ever associate bam with a comeback?
I'm sorry if this question sounds silly...but i just felt maybe TS meant something else and we are understanding it in another sense....
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TS/TS_comments was crystal clear on multiple occasions what he meant by "Bam" or "Bamsday", yes.
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
Thanks MJonMind. Great Pep talk. I'm here for as long as it takes. No quitting for me. I think you're right. This isn't only for us. It's for the whole world. No small potatoes like you say. That's why I joined the army of love, to help heal the world. So, we can't quit until it's done.
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http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/galactic-alignment-2012-maya-calender-21-december (http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/galactic-alignment-2012-maya-calender-21-december)
It's 2:12 am Christmas morning here in Texas. I just read the above link (it's long and detailed) and thought I would share. Most will think this is crazy, but oh well, I'm putting it here for consideration. I hope that MJonmind, Dontwalkaway, and SimpattyK will read it when they have time, as I've seen them to have open minds and think outside the box. I hope others will consider it also, sorry I just don't know who you may be as I haven't been a regular here in the last few years.
You really do have to read the whole article to possibly see why I think it may be important. There really is no way to explain it all here. First I would like you to notice the V and circle emblem on Michael's jacket in the pic above. You will see this image towards the end of the article. I also ask you to remember the times where Michael has been portrayed as a space man or in a space ship.(Captain EO, transformed into spaceship in Moonwalker, the Scream video and I believe it was the History tour where he busted out of a space capsule) There is also my favorite song, Another Part Of Me, where he sings "Don't point your finger, not dangerous, this is MY planet, you're one of us." Carlos Santana said MJ was Archangel Michael and another celebrity, can't remember who, said Michael was "otherworldly". I've definitely felt like Michael is extremely "special" and thus my online name TouchedByAnAngel.
Here is a couple of paragraphs from towards the end of the article, but please read the whole thing.
The symbol of the sword in this context in his mouth is a powerful pictographic teaching of the return of the lamb of God, one who is of the nature of the lamb... one who will use words as his weapon to expose the evil destroying society. The messenger as 'lamb-like' is gentle and caring for the human crisis unfolding. The name the Maya give to this messenger Bolon Yokte is one who no doubt proclaims war against evil as per the Revelation book claim.
The evil destroying society are mere mortal... the super rich of the world, billionaires who own corporations who are purchasing power and manipulating governments and laws for profiteering rights. One hopes the messenger will over-ride many world wide TV frequencies and call out the most ruthless profiteers of the world by name, hence the cutting of a two edge sword with his messages.
Since there is probably a universal law against interference with primitive civilisations, the messenger will probably call on humanity to make a peaceful stand and demand these people stand trial for crimes against humanity. Watch this scenario unfold if the messenger event comes to pass where the elite demand their puppet governments proclaim they need to protect their revered corporation icons of society from 'aliens' and military need shoot at the UFO.
Ok, I'm going to bed now. I hope everyone has a great Christmas!
Blessed to have been,
TouchedByAnAngel
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I think that when MJ doesn't come back by 1/1/13, we will finally be ALLOWED TO/ABLE TO (capable of discovering-- because MJ will not Bam by then) know that TS/TS_comments was a fake informer all along. Problem is, what part was fake...
...MJ isn't going to bam by 1/1/13, that's the point, makes sense...
...I probably will not be posting here much if at all after that, at least not before BAM. :affraid:
@ bec... well, we shouldn't expect anything from TS anytime soon then! :icon_lol:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Catch22.jpg)
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Tick tock tick tock....
:computer-losy-smiley:
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merry christmass for u all :)
well in my opinion, the word BAM abviously ment a "appearance" all along, come on dont get yourself blinded by your "faith"... its so clear that if MJ doesnt show up till jan 1st, it will mean he is not alive or TS was a fake informer. get over it guys.
i think your confusing concepts here, u just have to have faith in God, in our only and almighty God, not in a bone and flesh being, i mean Michael Jackson or TS. lets accept it.
There's no other meaning for the word BAM on TS messages. but hey, 2012 is not over yet... so lets wait. i love MJ and i would love he is still with us, but we will never know till a clear prove comes in front of our eyes. hes not GOD or "ish" for us to maintain some kind of Faith to him...
thats the true... sometime truth hurts. im from Peru as ive already said in my prior messages, also love and admire MJ but as human beings, we need clear proves to believe in him. everybody in my country thinks MJ is all death, ive tried to tell all of them thats not true, but probably not anymore.
peace, wisdom and love
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It doesn't mean MJ is dead. TS_comments has been the only source stating 1/1/13 as a deadline. All other sources are mum on the subject. He will be revealed as a fake informer but unless I'm missing something, that's the only truth that will be gained that day.
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i think your confusing concepts here, u just have to have faith in God, in our only and almighty God, not in a bone and flesh being, i mean Michael Jackson or TS. lets accept it.
There's no other meaning for the word BAM on TS messages. but hey, 2012 is not over yet... so lets wait. i love MJ and i would love he is still with us, but we will never know till a clear prove comes in front of our eyes. hes not GOD or "ish" for us to maintain some kind of Faith to him...
no one has any right to control/manipulate their beliefs ... beliefs are highly personal and independent...if any one finds an Angel/God/ish in Michael, and find solace in such a concept, so be it... <3
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If TS_comments not published again, this is not going to change my opinion, MJ is alive ::)
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TS said he won't be posting much BEFORE bam so to me I still believe him.
He's the one that has given us all these updates so I truly believe him with his hoax cannot be extended beyond 01.01.13.
Plus he says sign 7 will be given BEFORE 2012 ends. Isn't sign 7 about Michael?
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If TS_comments not published again, this is not going to change my opinion, MJ is alive ::)
Yes! Agree...
And while believing Michael is alive, it's not so difficult for me to believe he follow's this hoaxboard,and i don't think he would let TS post for so long if he is an fake informer, and thereby risk that he could ruin his masterpiece. We know that Michael was always in control in everything he did. So this is no different, maybe even more important!
So even if Mj doesn't Bam before 1-1-2013 i continue to believe that TS is an informer send by Michael, also based on the things he gave us these past time..
maybe some will see me as naive, i see it as Faith...faith that Michael has full control.
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
Thanks MJonMind. Great Pep talk. I'm here for as long as it takes. No quitting for me. I think you're right. This isn't only for us. It's for the whole world. No small potatoes like you say. That's why I joined the army of love, to help heal the world. So, we can't quit until it's done.
Same here, I agree with you guys. One thing that I am wondering since I am not a native english speaker is the real meaning when he says: "if Michael doesn't BAM by Jan 1st" I think this means that if Michael is to BAM will ONLY be on Jan 1st, 2013, or am I wrong? or in this case the word BY means that is a deadline and won't BAM beyond that date?
Please I need help in this guys!!
BTW TS explained that BAM means a PHYSICAL---> MICHAEL IN THE FLESH <--- COMEBACK.
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
Thanks MJonMind. Great Pep talk. I'm here for as long as it takes. No quitting for me. I think you're right. This isn't only for us. It's for the whole world. No small potatoes like you say. That's why I joined the army of love, to help heal the world. So, we can't quit until it's done.
Same here, I agree with you guys. One thing that I am wondering since I am not a native english speaker is the real meaning when he says: "if Michael doesn't BAM by Jan 1st" I think this means that if Michael is to BAM will ONLY be on Jan 1st, 2013, or am I wrong? or in this case the word BY means that is a deadline and won't BAM beyond that date?
Please I need help in this guys!!
BTW TS explained that BAM means a PHYSICAL---> MICHAEL IN THE FLESH <--- COMEBACK.
I think he means if Michael doesn't BAM before Jan. 1st than it's going to be on Jan. 1st but no later than that.
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Before the whole forum gets crazy when BAM happens, I'd like to show my appreciation for TS, Front and Michael [in this thread because I know you'll read this. :) ]
TS, your redirects and posts have really broadened my perspective on many things, both religious and not. You've made this entire journey really exciting with the redirects, posts, and explanation of clues and numerology -- to me, these strongly show that you're a trusted and true informer. A BIG THANK YOU for guiding the hoax community along, and for your patience with us when we lose faith or become impatient.
Front/Michael, the past 3 and a half years have been so exciting, knowing that you're still alive and that you're behind the curtain orchestrating everything. KUDOS to you! This really is the greatest performance ever - you're undoubtedly a genius to pull this off, and I thank you for all the hard work you've put in to make this happen. Your love for the world and actions to help it are amazing - I just want to let you know that you're a great example and role model for me.
God bless both of you!
Lastly, it's my birthday on the 29th - A BAM this year is gonna the best present ever. YAY! :multiplespotting:
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Thanks for posting that article @TouchedbyAnAngel. I don't think it's crazy at all. I really liked it. I've been looking at these types of articles about prophecies on and off the last few years. I don't thinks it's a coincidence that all these prophecies come up with nearly the same dates. It goes along with astrology. This death hoax is happening around the same time also. This is what I've been thinking all along. It's very interesting what they say about the seven stars of the Pleiadies and the stars of Orion. What do you think about all the messages from the Pleiadians ? Have you seen them on face book and youtube and other places on the internet ? I hope their for real, I really do because the planet needs help. I never understood the design on the jacket (pictured above). Are you saying that it is the V shaped space craft going through the black hole/passage way ? :omg: And I don't even doubt it anymore ! I've been trying to study and read the bible and other things these past few years. Some things I thought were completely fake aren't. We have to dig and search for the truth because it's been hidden/manipulated for so long.
Here's one of the messages from Alaje the Pleiadian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVe0mRdjEQg
Love You
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TIAI December 20th 2012 - REDIRECT
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Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013".
Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st.
We also had some @Front - clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve!
@Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below...
What do you guys think?
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---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg379960.html#msg379960
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg397823.html#msg397823
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.msg393734.html#msg393734
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.2075.html
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.msg348767.html#msg348767
Crystal ball in NYC... 12.21am, 1st Jan in NY is 9.21pm [21:21], still 2012, in CA...
OMG?
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[...]I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended. I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!
[...]Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013".
Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st. We also had some @Front - clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve! @Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below... What do you guys think?
@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone? I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur..... [...]
Yesss. Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far. So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING !
Crystal ball in NYC... 12.21am, 1st Jan in NY is 9.21pm [21:21], still 2012, in CALIFORNIA... OMG?
Juke Box, that's a great idea/possibility! YUP YUP :icon_bounce: Maybe you're on to something who knows!
Anyway, with a second BAM-date erased from my guESstimate-list, THAT ^^ would be our [my third] and last hope for a BAM, at least any time soon, these days! :bowdown: Because who knows what this hoax [Michael] has in store for us! Maybe all of this is actually meant for us to take us on the highest peak of emotions, only to take us down in the next phase of total disbelief and doubts in a return, only to shake us and totally take us by surprise again and push our spirits high with a BAM that nobody would hope for anymore next year!! :affraid: I believe he planned everything to be like that, all the clues that were meant for a wide range of purposes: inform us, educate us, give us hope, make us laugh or doubt :animal0017: or even mislead us :confused: One can never know what to expect next! ANYTHING is [im]possible in Hoaxland, because for Michael "only the sky is the limit!" Oh my! What a roller coaster of emotions we've been through so far! Lots of UPs and DOWNs! Truly a great adventure! Michael you're a BIG naughty, teasing TRICKSTA!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0016.gif) You'd better get yo sexy smart butt back to us as soon as possible or else there won't be any sain hoaxer around (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/%21fou.gif) :icon_lol:
ALSO, BAM or no-BAM, it doesn't mean Michael is dead NOR that TS is a fake informer!
I'm not gonna "rewind" all the family validations that we received for both TS and Front! Remember TS even told us that if he's a fake informer , than so are Paris and LaToya! As "tricky" his phrase ( from Aug 17, 2011 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.0.html) ) may sound to some ["you may know that TS is a fake informer"], he then went to say ( in his next post of Aug 29, 2011 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20261.msg351315.html#msg351315) ):
TS: I finished my last post with this statement, “I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!” And now I will finish this post with the following statement, “If MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that Paris is a fake informer—and even La Toya, since she verified the pariisjaxn Twitter account more than once.”
Anyway.... whatever happens in the following days, I'll never stop hoping for a BAM, especially because I know that ONE of the MAIN purposes of this hoax is ---> WHAT comes after the BAM !
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE).
And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics : “What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn’t. It’s the beginning.”
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VOTE MOST FAMOUS PERSON 2013 (vote for MJ)
http://youtu.be/mPGrkz5_jzM
http://mostfamousperson.net/ LET MIKE BLOW EVERYONE ELSE OUT OF THE WATER - SHARE LINK WITH OTHER MJ FANS
they also have a paid voting system- if the others need for people to pay.....MAKE THEM PAY OUT THEIR A$$E$
check out sofurgofromashes channel on youtube. sometimes he makes me wonder if that is not THEE MAN, himself :icon_e_confused:
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CHECK THIS OUT -
http://youtu.be/qfnnn8soatc
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It doesn't mean MJ is dead. TS_comments has been the only source stating 1/1/13 as a deadline. All other sources are mum on the subject. He will be revealed as a fake informer but unless I'm missing something, that's the only truth that will be gained that day.
Do you think the 1/1/13 deadline is a hoax on us? Sometimes I just don't know what to think anymore and that perhaps that's what is supposed to happen. I'm trying to understand why TS would build up trust here for over 3 years, with many undisputed truths (although I don't believe everything he says because he does play D.A. often) and give us a false deadline. There are 5 days left in this year so I guess we'll see what unfolds. I remember feeling somewhat over-confident a month ago (which seems like so long ago) about the BAM happening this year...definitely not feeling over-confident now! But still hopeful. always hopeful.
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It doesn't mean MJ is dead. TS_comments has been the only source stating 1/1/13 as a deadline. All other sources are mum on the subject. He will be revealed as a fake informer but unless I'm missing something, that's the only truth that will be gained that day.
Do you think the 1/1/13 deadline is a hoax on us? Sometimes I just don't know what to think anymore and that perhaps that's what is supposed to happen. I'm trying to understand why TS would build up trust here for over 3 years, with many undisputed truths (although I don't believe everything he says because he does play D.A. often) and give us a false deadline. There are 5 days left in this year so I guess we'll see what unfolds. I remember feeling somewhat over-confident a month ago (which seems like so long ago) about the BAM happening this year...definitely not feeling over-confident now! But still hopeful. always hopeful.
Yes I do. Which actually makes sense to me now after that DWD patient sideshow.
And why? There's several possibilities but asking why is akin to asking why did he hoax his death? Several possibilities but first and foremost (I believe), much like the fan community (subject of another sting) there will be lessons learned. Perhaps we are being put in our place, knocked down a rung, whittled down to size, you know?
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check out sofurgofromashes channel on youtube. sometimes he makes me wonder if that is not THEE MAN, himself :icon_e_confused:
He does not wish to be discussed here on this forum.
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It doesn't mean MJ is dead. TS_comments has been the only source stating 1/1/13 as a deadline. All other sources are mum on the subject. He will be revealed as a fake informer but unless I'm missing something, that's the only truth that will be gained that day.
Do you think the 1/1/13 deadline is a hoax on us? Sometimes I just don't know what to think anymore and that perhaps that's what is supposed to happen. I'm trying to understand why TS would build up trust here for over 3 years, with many undisputed truths (although I don't believe everything he says because he does play D.A. often) and give us a false deadline. There are 5 days left in this year so I guess we'll see what unfolds. I remember feeling somewhat over-confident a month ago (which seems like so long ago) about the BAM happening this year...definitely not feeling over-confident now! But still hopeful. always hopeful.
Yes I do. Which actually makes sense to me now after that DWD patient sideshow.
I guess we'll find out soon. I still think the DWD patient theory was deliberately set up to debunk it, if that makes sense. And then TS left it at that, saying he wouldn't be posting hardly anything until after the BAM so all the counter-arguments to his DWD list were left unanswered by him. But agreed, it certainly created a sideshow which I think was it's purpose.
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"May the 4th be with you."
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(http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae337/cjcntx/MJ-Jacket_zps65355e3a.jpg)
http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/galactic-alignment-2012-maya-calender-21-december (http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/galactic-alignment-2012-maya-calender-21-december)
It's 2:12 am Christmas morning here in Texas. I just read the above link (it's long and detailed) and thought I would share. Most will think this is crazy, but oh well, I'm putting it here for consideration. I hope that MJonmind, Dontwalkaway, and SimpattyK will read it when they have time, as I've seen them to have open minds and think outside the box. I hope others will consider it also, sorry I just don't know who you may be as I haven't been a regular here in the last few years.
You really do have to read the whole article to possibly see why I think it may be important. There really is no way to explain it all here. First I would like you to notice the V and circle emblem on Michael's jacket in the pic above. You will see this image towards the end of the article. I also ask you to remember the times where Michael has been portrayed as a space man or in a space ship.(Captain EO, transformed into spaceship in Moonwalker, the Scream video and I believe it was the History tour where he busted out of a space capsule) There is also my favorite song, Another Part Of Me, where he sings "Don't point your finger, not dangerous, this is MY planet, you're one of us." Carlos Santana said MJ was Archangel Michael and another celebrity, can't remember who, said Michael was "otherworldly". I've definitely felt like Michael is extremely "special" and thus my online name TouchedByAnAngel.
Here is a couple of paragraphs from towards the end of the article, but please read the whole thing.
The symbol of the sword in this context in his mouth is a powerful pictographic teaching of the return of the lamb of God, one who is of the nature of the lamb... one who will use words as his weapon to expose the evil destroying society. The messenger as 'lamb-like' is gentle and caring for the human crisis unfolding. The name the Maya give to this messenger Bolon Yokte is one who no doubt proclaims war against evil as per the Revelation book claim.
The evil destroying society are mere mortal... the super rich of the world, billionaires who own corporations who are purchasing power and manipulating governments and laws for profiteering rights. One hopes the messenger will over-ride many world wide TV frequencies and call out the most ruthless profiteers of the world by name, hence the cutting of a two edge sword with his messages.
Since there is probably a universal law against interference with primitive civilisations, the messenger will probably call on humanity to make a peaceful stand and demand these people stand trial for crimes against humanity. Watch this scenario unfold if the messenger event comes to pass where the elite demand their puppet governments proclaim they need to protect their revered corporation icons of society from 'aliens' and military need shoot at the UFO.
Ok, I'm going to bed now. I hope everyone has a great Christmas!
Blessed to have been,
TouchedByAnAngel
Oh MY! that LINK is an immense labyrinth of interesting information!!
I'd be lying if I told you that i read everything! I'd also be lying if I said I understood everything!
I mean my eyes were like criss crossing while scrolling the pages of that site and the link references :icon_eek:
it's a whole lot of NEW information for me, combined with older information.... things that start to make some kind of a sense! And when i think I understood something, there comes something new and mind blowing that puzzles me even more than before!
It takes time to manage to fully read and understand everything there.
But there were a few things that caught my attention, thinks that reminded me of recent posts by Paris tweeter and by MJ official FB page!
Thank you for sharing @TouchedByAnAngel and thank you for contacting me on tweeter too about that and the screenshot you sent me!! I din't know from which page you took it, but let me tell you that my eyes fell on the exact page and images! lolll So you must have known (anticipated) that ! loll it intrigued me!
Ok. So starting from the montages that I had already posted on my FB page, then combining with the information from this link http://www.keyofsolomon.net/lost-symbol-solomon-key-hebrew-pictogram-cipher-puzzle-ref-Dan-Brown2.php here's what parallels I could draw:
1. The Candlesticks
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/orion001.jpg)
2. The inverted pyramids, united by the SUN and number 7
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/orion002.jpg)
3. The Sacred CROSS
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/orion003.jpg)
Below are my 2 montages that I made before reading the link that you gave me @TouchedByAnAngel. I was puzzled by so much SUN symbolism related to December 25th and number 7 ! Now after reading part from that site.... things seem to connect somehow! I guess... I don't know....
Also what HIT me from the very start, was the amount of information about the ORION constellation!! :icon_eek: and the Jacob's ladder!! I couldn't help thinking about Elvis and Orion and how Elvis appears in so many photos with a LADDER!!! it always intrigued me WHY!?? It's EERY!! I made several montages about that, here's one ---> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=442641699126186&set=pb.197418280315197.-2207520000.1356575655&type=3&theater
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjfbsunno7.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam020.jpg)
-----> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=461631883893834&set=a.197522406971451.48898.197418280315197&type=1&relevant_count=1
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That's a menorah, Sim. For Hanukkah.
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Sim, the speed you whip your pictorals up, amazing! Thought-provoking!
The Jewish menorah with 9 candles that Paris is lighting, is a tradition of men, which Jesus spoke against, as is Hanukkah. The Biblical candle-stand in Revelation, as Sim showed, has 7 candles with Jesus or Son of Man, as the center one, or standing among 7 candles, pictured both ways.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
(http://www.raebear.net/bible/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0021r908.jpg)
I like the way you show the Dutch 7 sleeve morphing into the 'Star of David', or 'Solomon's seal' or Jewish star. "As above so below". Like heaven defeats hell. Verse 17-18:
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Sounds like at the MJ memorial, "I'm alive and I'm here forever." And there's the painting of MJ with the book and key.
Also the X shape of the Dutch 7 sleeve, is the Greek letter symbol for Christ, thus Christmas is often shortened to X-mas.
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp
Too Short and TS (if MJ) are both African Americans, who I believe are descendants of the true Hebrew Israelites, and are bringing out truths of Scripture. Too Short sings about Judas Maccabiatch and Yom Kippur, which TS does extensive teaching on. TS talks of the Apocryphal book Maccabees telling of Jeremiah hiding the true Ark of the Covenant which Ron Wyatt found. He also talked of the wise of this world not knowing this understanding of the Bible and EOW. Part of the battle for truth may include this aspect of who the true writers of the Bible were, thus who will unseal what has been sealed. TS talks of how things he's said have not been understood completely by the best and wisest. I really believe there is something Special being revealed to us. Perhaps I'm over-blowing it, but this is my hunch.
Something else, Jesus' blood lineage (Mary) did not come through Solomon son of David; but Nathan son of David. Jesus' adopted father Joseph's line is through Solomon.
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/emails/JesusDavidSolomon.html
The British crown and Queen Elizabeth say they can trace their lineage, (divine right to rule) to King David, but it's through Solomon (if any of it's even true). Intriguing stuff.
http://www.originofnations.org/Royals/royal_line.html
www.henrymakow.comhttp://www.originofnations.org/Royals/royal_line.html/queen_elizabeth_bloodline.html
All the Jewish genealogical records were destroyed with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A. D., so these records would be difficult to prove true.
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TouchedByAnAngel, thanks for the info! Just some things that caught my eye.
The "H" that Sim talked of. Bloodline stuff (see my post above), and Project Blue Beam.
(From not quite half way down.)
The crucial definition of this deity if the prophecy is true is that it is a title of a specific being for the Maya and in the future it is another with the same title and not likely to be the same being thousands of years later. I am sure in the same light the Revelation prophecy of the Messiah 'returning' is that it will be another flesh and blood being with the Christos title. Sure many by tradition will say it will be God reincarnated or Jesus still alive in flesh. Lets agree to keep neutral on this and just wait and see. In the image below are two of the best cases for the previous one titled as Bolon Yokte and the detail discussed on him and the context of the Sacred Tree follows. …
(From ¾ down)
Orion
is also seen in the depiction below with its 'Kanaga' symbol... the 'H' symbol... the same symbol used in the Gobekli Tepe star maps, which is used as a cosmic signpost to find the 'god' star near the Pleiades. Gobekli Tepe is supposed to be the oldest ancient civilisation in the world according to scholars. ref
Here is the scholars interpretation on the pages that followed as it obsessed in the different weddings between 'gods' and their people, a bloodline obsession followed where kings believed only their families were of the 'gods'. A secret began where the people were told they were just mortals and only the kings family were of sacred bloodline. In fact I have found the star map depiction in ancient civilisations and therefore ALL humanity are descendant of these star beings. It appears that every kingship in every land needed to hide this same secret so they could manipulate 'worthless' commoner humanity. Here are the deciphered texts of the Seldon Codex: …
ZOHAR PROPHECY OF 2012 MESSIAH AND 7 STARS
"A star from the east will swallow up seven stars from the north"... "In the 73rd year (2012/2013)"... "During this time, the King Mashiach will declare himself throughout the whole world, and many nations will gather around him together with many armies from all corners of the world" VAERA section verses 478-479.ref.
Márton Molnár-Göb a researcher in this prophetic work saw a definite interpretation how the 'Star' could be Jupiter exactly as we see it now as a star map teaching mechanism in the correct position near the Sunlike star near the Pleiades. Yes its moving through the Pleiades thus swallowing it up. But more importantly the timing for 2012-2013... right now is beyond coincidence too. This is a fantastic comparison because both Maya and Zohar give the same dates.
The image below is a careful reconstructed image following the works from the Book of Revelation and Matthew. The Matthew texts speak of the Three Kings as in Freemason tradition for Orion's Belt ref that follow from the east to find the location of the Star of the Christ associated with his beginnings (star map).
The book of Revelation claims one arrives with this Christos title in the future riding that which produces a cloud and one who will do battle against evil... he holds in his right hand his address of origin... seven stars. The seven golden candle sticks of the Hebrew tradition celebrates the same seven stars in the heavens. A whole website is dedicated to this and the secret stars of the Key of Solomon... ref. ..
http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/galactic-alignment-2012-maya-calender-21-december
TouchedByAnAngel, then just after the part you posted above (right at the bottom of the article).
My biggest concern is the trickery and manipulation of the elite powers that be to set up their own fake UFO false flag event called Project Blue Beam during a real UFO event, and do their fake event with holograms in another big city... ref. or even worse, the elite sneak in a massive weapon beneath where the real UFO is hovering and then detonate it claiming on news media they are attacking us. Be alert and aware. …
This is important if a cosmic messenger arrives. There is legend of false prophets and they will try and claim they are prophets of God but anyone can use this special knowledge to identify their motives and claims using your new skill. One thing for sure about any new messenger is the expression of love and care for the masses of humanity in crisis. Especially the poor and the means to inspire the poor to find a way back into a self supporting social system based on sharing resources.
IF THIS EVENT COMES TO PASS ON TIME... OR NOT...
NEVER LOSE HOPE... WE WILL WAIT AND WATCH
If nothing happens we need to make a stand on our own and take the occupy peace protests more seriously and in much bigger numbers globally and demands for the 1000 billionaires of the Earth to stand trial for manipulation/profiteering/greed/atrocities/bribery.
Also talk of the Jewish messiah, the Zohar (above), from Jewish writings, for 2012. http://visionofgeulah.wordpress.com/the-star-of-mashiach-in-the-zohar/
and interesting comment :icon_eek::
Blue Says:
December 13, 2012 at 6:08 am
First night I went to Jerusalem in 2003 I was at the kings hotel or king David’s hotel something like that, I had a dream the city was empty and in front of the Kotel stood a flaming pillar of blue fire, I remember the sounds of the burning fire was so loud, in my dream I was terrified but for some reason I went straight to the pillar. In the pillar I saw a figure off the ground in mid air. I thought this figure was going to kill me I was so scared but that was it. In the background the dome of the rock wasn’t there.
I was 18 and I never read any lines from zohar and had hardly any clue of moshiach
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TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility. Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people. TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time. Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing? Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit. But that light will be coming soon. Can we be strong for him? TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of? Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)? We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what. If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly. TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines. If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different. He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet. History will be affected--this is no small potatoes. What stuff are we made of? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk. Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front. Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him! We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here! MJ here! Simply magical!! (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTF1FYPFWg2syl2CXmaMNsUGg-av9SvRkDV8rxIB5PaHn9cW2BB)
Thanks MJonMind. Great Pep talk. I'm here for as long as it takes. No quitting for me. I think you're right. This isn't only for us. It's for the whole world. No small potatoes like you say. That's why I joined the army of love, to help heal the world. So, we can't quit until it's done.
Same here, I agree with you guys. One thing that I am wondering since I am not a native english speaker is the real meaning when he says: "if Michael doesn't BAM by Jan 1st" I think this means that if Michael is to BAM will ONLY be on Jan 1st, 2013, or am I wrong? or in this case the word BY means that is a deadline and won't BAM beyond that date?
Please I need help in this guys!!
BTW TS explained that BAM means a PHYSICAL---> MICHAEL IN THE FLESH <--- COMEBACK.
I think he means if Michael doesn't BAM before Jan. 1st than it's going to be on Jan. 1st but no later than that.
Great Pep talk and I agree with you guys
Although with the latest redirect it looks like there may be a delay up to January 5th...
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23520.msg434050.html#msg434050 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23520.msg434050.html#msg434050)
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TouchedbyanAngel,MJonMind,SimPattyK, Wow Great Posts. I love all this. Sim, great connections with pictures. I don't know how you do it. It's interesting how all these prophecies have similarities especially with the number 7. Think about all the sevens in the book of revelation. I think the 7 stars in the Pleiades, Orion, and Jupiter are important. I'll have to look at all this again !
Love You All :bearhug:
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That's because 7 is the divine number.
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Sim, the speed you whip your pictorals up, amazing! Thought-provoking!
The Jewish menorah with 9 candles that Paris is lighting, is a tradition of men, which Jesus spoke against, as is Hanukkah. The Biblical candle-stand in Revelation, as Sim showed, has 7 candles with Jesus or Son of Man, as the center one, or standing among 7 candles, pictured both ways.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
(http://www.raebear.net/bible/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/0021r908.jpg)
I like the way you show the Dutch 7 sleeve morphing into the 'Star of David', or 'Solomon's seal' or Jewish star. "As above so below". Like heaven defeats hell. Verse 17-18:
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Sounds like at the MJ memorial, "I'm alive and I'm here forever." And there's the painting of MJ with the book and key.
Also the X shape of the Dutch 7 sleeve, is the Greek letter symbol for Christ, thus Christmas is often shortened to X-mas.
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/xmasabbr.asp
Too Short and TS (if MJ) are both African Americans, who I believe are descendants of the true Hebrew Israelites, and are bringing out truths of Scripture. Too Short sings about Judas Maccabiatch and Yom Kippur, which TS does extensive teaching on. TS talks of the Apocryphal book Maccabees telling of Jeremiah hiding the true Ark of the Covenant which Ron Wyatt found. He also talked of the wise of this world not knowing this understanding of the Bible and EOW. Part of the battle for truth may include this aspect of who the true writers of the Bible were, thus who will unseal what has been sealed. TS talks of how things he's said have not been understood completely by the best and wisest. I really believe there is something Special being revealed to us. Perhaps I'm over-blowing it, but this is my hunch.
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Thank you for adding so much interesting info @MjonMind! I love reading you!
Everything seems to connect in some strange incredible way! :icon_eek:
TouchedbyanAngel,MJonMind,SimPattyK, Wow Great Posts. I love all this. Sim, great connections with pictures. I don't know how you do it. It's interesting how all these prophecies have similarities especially with the number 7. Think about all the sevens in the book of revelation. I think the 7 stars in the Pleiades, Orion, and Jupiter are important. I'll have to look at all this again !
Love You All :bearhug:
Love back @DWA :bearhug:
Yep Jupiter too! It explains why both Elvis and Michael were caught in so many photos pointing their Jupiter finger...
And then also the RAINBOW connections....
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[...]Since December 21st and December 22nd seem to pass by without any significant happening, despite all the CLUES hinting to them as possible BAM dates, I was just thinking... that maybe we could really take into consideration the fact that maybe BAM will happen according to @TS's own deadline: "By January 1st, 2013".
Which means somewhere [ "close to midnight" :icon_geek: ] between December 31st and January 1st. We also had some @Front - clues about a possible BAM at New Year's Eve! @Wishingstar and I have discussed it at that time... And I also made this montage below... What do you guys think?
@Sim....yes I remember that crystal ball talk......it always intrigued me......if ever the world was watching something, a New Year's countdown would be a world event....didn't TS mention BAM would be in the California time zone? I do think it's impossible to figure when or how BAM will occur..... [...]
Yesss. Also I think that the Front's clock may be showing the tIME! not the date as we interpreted so far. So instead of December 21st , maybe the clock is really showing us the TIME [hour, minutes] when he BAMs --> 12:21. Which also makes me think about "It's not the END , it's the BEGINNING", meaning: The "END" of his life [911 call - 12:21] meant the BEGINNING of the death hoax and NOW the END of the death hoax on [we can assume] January 1st, 2013 at 12:21 is the new BEGINNING !
Crystal ball in NYC... 12.21am, 1st Jan in NY is 9.21pm [21:21], still 2012, in CALIFORNIA... OMG?
Juke Box, that's a great idea/possibility! YUP YUP :icon_bounce: Maybe you're on to something who knows!
Anyway, with a second BAM-date erased from my guESstimate-list, THAT ^^ would be our [my third] and last hope for a BAM, at least any time soon, these days! :bowdown: Because who knows what this hoax [Michael] has in store for us! Maybe all of this is actually meant for us to take us on the highest peak of emotions, only to take us down in the next phase of total disbelief and doubts in a return, only to shake us and totally take us by surprise again and push our spirits high with a BAM that nobody would hope for anymore next year!! :affraid: I believe he planned everything to be like that, all the clues that were meant for a wide range of purposes: inform us, educate us, give us hope, make us laugh or doubt :animal0017: or even mislead us :confused: One can never know what to expect next! ANYTHING is [im]possible in Hoaxland, because for Michael "only the sky is the limit!" Oh my! What a roller coaster of emotions we've been through so far! Lots of UPs and DOWNs! Truly a great adventure! Michael you're a BIG naughty, teasing TRICKSTA!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/0016.gif) You'd better get yo sexy smart butt back to us as soon as possible or else there won't be any sain hoaxer around (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Langue/%21fou.gif) :icon_lol:
ALSO, BAM or no-BAM, it doesn't mean Michael is dead NOR that TS is a fake informer!
I'm not gonna "rewind" all the family validations that we received for both TS and Front! Remember TS even told us that if he's a fake informer , than so are Paris and LaToya! As "tricky" his phrase ( from Aug 17, 2011 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20134.0.html) ) may sound to some ["you may know that TS is a fake informer"], he then went to say ( in his next post of Aug 29, 2011 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20261.msg351315.html#msg351315) ):
TS: I finished my last post with this statement, “I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!” And now I will finish this post with the following statement, “If MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that Paris is a fake informer—and even La Toya, since she verified the pariisjaxn Twitter account more than once.”
Anyway.... whatever happens in the following days, I'll never stop hoping for a BAM, especially because I know that ONE of the MAIN purposes of this hoax is ---> WHAT comes after the BAM !
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE).
And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics : “What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn’t. It’s the beginning.”
Sim, since you've posted about the crystal ball drop, Front and TS connections, I haven't been able to stop thinking about the NYE countdown at Times Square.
It makes so much sense -- New Year's, fireworks, BAM. Just... how's MJ gonna do it? Is he going to perform? Won't the organizers of the new year party know? Is he gonna be registering as an MJ impersonator? Is he gonna appear before or after 12 Midnight EST?
I know some of the people here don't like to anticipate or guess what BAM will be like but please bear with me.. I'm brimming full with excitement... Especially with the day approaching...
:icon_bounce:
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V was taking over TV station, not the event.
These days you don't need to be there in person.
Telephone cable or web access via satellite.
Hologram. Plug in. Make.believe. Mariah Carey rehearsed it well.
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Sim, since you've posted about the crystal ball drop, Front and TS connections, I haven't been able to stop thinking about the NYE countdown at Times Square.
It makes so much sense -- New Year's, fireworks, BAM. Just... how's MJ gonna do it? Is he going to perform? Won't the organizers of the new year party know? Is he gonna be registering as an MJ impersonator? Is he gonna appear before or after 12 Midnight EST?
I know some of the people here don't like to anticipate or guess what BAM will be like but please bear with me.. I'm brimming full with excitement... Especially with the day approaching...
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1. YES ! THAT ^^ is a possible outcome for Michael's BAM!
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2. Ever since TS has posted his latest update about Murray's case ( see here (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23538.msg434244.html#msg434244) ), I can't stop thinking that maybe the BAM could happen in Court, during a LIVE trial where Michael shows up as "exceptional new evidence" / witness.
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3. @ellyd: comes up with another possible BAM-scenario: something to do with high TECH, hologram, online BAM, etc...
I can envision Michael's BAM doing some V-speech on an important [popular] website or several major websites/networks.
But I'd have a problem with a HOLOGRAM! - That wouldn't be a BAM!! nobody would believe he's alive!! They would say it's just like when they brought Elvis to sing with Celine or like with 2PAC during that Coachella festival . So .... I'd prefer the REAL deal , no holograms for a credible BAM! loll
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Some thoughts on a showdown.
Issue with NYE or any other major "general" festivity is that people will be occupied with themselves.
Issue with Doc Murray's trial is that nobody really cares about it - except some fans and TMZ.
If MJ would step out proclaiming "I'm alive and it was me all the time and I saved the world" it would end in "ah, right, oumhh, Michael Jackson... so, he did fake his death? what for? exposure of evil? oh really? well, how much did he make when he was "dead"? ah, right." Over.
Not taking into account the inevitable instant revival of haters.
An "official" major drumbeat can only take place on a general stage which is watched by many - and certainly by those who are relevant. An incisive event would require pinpointed, thorough exposure of those who are responsible for general issues which are of interest for many. Thus, the originators of issues have to take center stage, not MJ. MJ may or may not come out from behind the curtain. Any whatsoever drumbeat must not be aiming MJ's praise anyway. Sometimes private triumph with family and friends is much more satisfactory than blowing the trumpets for everyone. In the end, it's all in God's and not in MJ's name. I still think we'll see some folks pretty naked but that they will have to take off their clothes by themselves, piece by piece. That's far more getting dignity and self-reflection back into focus than any quick robbery by third parties. (Haven't we already seen some public unclothing? Dreamteamers at Carolwood?)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A)
Don't underestimate our part in making them take their well-ironed, starched suits off.
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Now this would be a very cool BAM... Except it's illegal but still would be cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2MiqYhJ7rY&feature=player_detailpage#t=382s
the above link should take you to the right time.. but just in case it's at 6:22 onwards
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2MiqYhJ7rY&feature=player_detailpage#t=382s[/youtube]
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That would be SO cool! :)
To bad it's illegal to do such a thing ::)
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@JukeBox: regarding our discussion on TS deadline and Front's crystal ball .... What do you think?
Are this TMZ article and Donte's twit [tks @suesuzzfaithkeeper ] connected or am I imagining things? lol
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam022crys.jpg)
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Janet will be in Times Square too! :affraid:
---> https://twitter.com/JanetJackson
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/janettwit0.jpg)
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Some thoughts on a showdown.
Issue with NYE or any other major "general" festivity is that people will be occupied with themselves.
Issue with Doc Murray's trial is that nobody really cares about it - except some fans and TMZ.
If MJ would step out proclaiming "I'm alive and it was me all the time and I saved the world" it would end in "ah, right, oumhh, Michael Jackson... so, he did fake his death? what for? exposure of evil? oh really? well, how much did he make when he was "dead"? ah, right." Over.
Not taking into account the inevitable instant revival of haters.
An "official" major drumbeat can only take place on a general stage which is watched by many - and certainly by those who are relevant. An incisive event would require pinpointed, thorough exposure of those who are responsible for general issues which are of interest for many. Thus, the originators of issues have to take center stage, not MJ. MJ may or may not come out from behind the curtain. Any whatsoever drumbeat must not be aiming MJ's praise anyway. Sometimes private triumph with family and friends is much more satisfactory than blowing the trumpets for everyone. In the end, it's all in God's and not in MJ's name. I still think we'll see some folks pretty naked but that they will have to take off their clothes by themselves, piece by piece. That's far more getting dignity and self-reflection back into focus than any quick robbery by third parties. (Haven't we already seen some public unclothing? Dreamteamers at Carolwood?)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A)
Don't underestimate our part in making them take their well-ironed, starched suits off.
Mm.. it's hard to imagine how "the originators of issues" can "take centre stage", without someone hugely influential pointing them out. jmho
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@JukeBox: regarding our discussion on TS deadline and Front's crystal ball .... What do you think?
Are this TMZ article and Donte's twit [tks @suesuzzfaithkeeper ] connected or am I imagining things? lol
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bam022crys.jpg)
@SimPattyK The tweet by Donte seems to be intentional! I do not think it's surprising for TMZ to have news articles on the Ball Drop and Times Square countdown as the event has huge coverage everywhere, but it could be a very subtle clue!
Happy new year everyone! =)))
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@SimPattyK The tweet by Donte seems to be intentional! I do not think it's surprising for TMZ to have news articles on the Ball Drop and Times Square countdown as the event has huge coverage everywhere, but it could be a very subtle clue!
The thing is that Donte had posted the crystal ball - twit almost a month before I brought up the subject in this thread. So IDK but I don't think it was only an intentional reference to our discussions here...
And the TMZ article TIMING is interesting... it was posted today (yesterday) about things that happened last year. And that montage showing the image of a crystal ball 4 times, seems blatant, like they wanted us to notice that.
But maybe I'm just over-hoaxed right now lolll :icon_lol:
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your most welcome sim..glad i seen that :woohoo2:...only 30 more minutes until the ball drops in NYC...happy new year to all.
huggs n keep the faith
suzz
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