Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => The Conrad Murray Investigation & Court Case => After June 25, 2009 => Court Case & Hearings; Discussion and Articles => Topic started by: MaryK on October 12, 2012, 03:54:22 PM
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/conrad-murray-not-eligible-house-release (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/conrad-murray-not-eligible-house-release)
Dr. Conrad Murray Will NOT Be Home For Christmas,
Not Eligible To Be Transferred To House Arrest
Posted on Oct 12, 2012 @ 01:00AM
By Jen Heger - Radar Assistant Managing Editor
Despite his hopes to the contrary, Dr. Conrad Murray will NOT be home for Christmas, as the beleaguered former cardiologist is not eligible to commute the rest of his four year jail sentence to house arrest, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.
As previously reported, Murray, who was convicted last year of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the shocking death of pop superstar Michael Jackson, had told his baby mama, Nicole Alvarez, that he could be out of jail by the Holidays — but, not so!
"The Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department maintains that Dr. Murray isn't eligible for house arrest/electronic monitoring," Dr. Murray's attorney, Valerie Wass tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.
Dr. Murray was recently taken from his jail cell to the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was concerned that he had developed blood clots on his legs. After a thorough examination, at the expense of taxpayers, it was determined that Murray didn't have any blood clots.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Spokesperson Nicole Nashida tells Radar, "Mr. Murray is alive and well. We are working with him in addressing his medical concerns and any other issues that he has. Mr. Murray is being treated just like any other inmate at the jail."
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Murray is passing his time in jail by writing a tell-all book, and he hopes a publisher will pay him a substantial amount of money.
"Dr. Murray spends most of his days writing what he is telling friends will be a tell-all about what really happened in the final days of Michael Jackson's life," a source previously told Radar. "Murray believes that the public will want to hear about the time he spent with Michael.
"Conrad says that Michael confided his inner-most secrets about his true feelings for his family, the child molestation trial and his three children. Murray contends that Michael's kids viewed him as a family member and loved him.
"This is all about money for Murray though because he is absolutely flat broke and desperately needs the cash. He feels that the book could help rehab his image and help him to get his medical license back."
Reps for Murray have reached out to publishers to test the waters to see if there is any interest in the book, and so far the response has been, "no thanks."
Meanwhile, a law enforcement source tells Radar: "Murray isn't causing any problems, but like every inmate in jail, he wants out. Murray constantly laments that he is a scapegoat for Michael Jackson's death and he hasn't shown any true remorse for his role. Dr. Murray needs to accept the fact that he will be staying in jail for another year. Whatever medical condition he may develop, mental health issue, you name it, he will remain in custody. Jails have medical wings and are equipped to deal with any issue an inmate can develop."
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Well, if we're reading and looking for whispers between the lines, this headline does not bode well for the hopes of many of us. :icon_cry:
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Thanks Mary for posting.. :bearhug:
Guys...Keep the faith !!! And always SMILE !!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Ordinateur/0008.gif)
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Not good news.
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In case we interpret "7 day theory" as "1 day = 1 year", this would make 2016.
This would make a lot more sense than 2012 or 2013 - given the overlay numerical structure has any impact at all.
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A Book on Tape may be??@
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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/conrad-murray-not-eligible-house-release (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/conrad-murray-not-eligible-house-release)
Dr. Conrad Murray Will NOT Be Home For Christmas,
Not Eligible To Be Transferred To House Arrest
Posted on Oct 12, 2012 @ 01:00AM
By Jen Heger - Radar Assistant Managing Editor
Despite his hopes to the contrary, Dr. Conrad Murray will NOT be home for Christmas, as the beleaguered former cardiologist is not eligible to commute the rest of his four year jail sentence to house arrest, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.
As previously reported, Murray, who was convicted last year of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the shocking death of pop superstar Michael Jackson, had told his baby mama, Nicole Alvarez, that he could be out of jail by the Holidays — but, not so!
"The Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department maintains that Dr. Murray isn't eligible for house arrest/electronic monitoring," Dr. Murray's attorney, Valerie Wass tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.
Dr. Murray was recently taken from his jail cell to the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was concerned that he had developed blood clots on his legs. After a thorough examination, at the expense of taxpayers, it was determined that Murray didn't have any blood clots.
Los Angeles County Sheriff Spokesperson Nicole Nashida tells Radar, "Mr. Murray is alive and well. We are working with him in addressing his medical concerns and any other issues that he has. Mr. Murray is being treated just like any other inmate at the jail."
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Murray is passing his time in jail by writing a tell-all book, and he hopes a publisher will pay him a substantial amount of money.
"Dr. Murray spends most of his days writing what he is telling friends will be a tell-all about what really happened in the final days of Michael Jackson's life," a source previously told Radar. "Murray believes that the public will want to hear about the time he spent with Michael.
"Conrad says that Michael confided his inner-most secrets about his true feelings for his family, the child molestation trial and his three children. Murray contends that Michael's kids viewed him as a family member and loved him.
"This is all about money for Murray though because he is absolutely flat broke and desperately needs the cash. He feels that the book could help rehab his image and help him to get his medical license back."
Reps for Murray have reached out to publishers to test the waters to see if there is any interest in the book, and so far the response has been, "no thanks."
Meanwhile, a law enforcement source tells Radar: "Murray isn't causing any problems, but like every inmate in jail, he wants out. Murray constantly laments that he is a scapegoat for Michael Jackson's death and he hasn't shown any true remorse for his role. Dr. Murray needs to accept the fact that he will be staying in jail for another year. Whatever medical condition he may develop, mental health issue, you name it, he will remain in custody. Jails have medical wings and are equipped to deal with any issue an inmate can develop."
The fact that Murray is not released for Christmas does not have to be bad news indeed. One that does not conform to forecast BAM 12-21-12 we thought possible.
I liked "Mr. Murray is alive and well" why mention it? there were rumors that his life was in danger. There are many things we do not know with certainty the date BAM is one of them, so do not lose faith.
:bearhug:
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I agree that this sounds like a bad news for us. Michael cannot return without the "Murray problem" being solved. This, among other things, are not good signs, methinks. :icon_e_sad:
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I agree that this sounds like a bad news for us. Michael cannot return without the "Murray problem" being solved. This, among other things, are not good signs, methinks.
don't be too sure.
Murray under house arrest means he is now inaccessible to the public.
We only just assume he's at home, out of sight, only visible to eyes that are allowed to see him.
Now, people can't observe him in jail, even.
Who knows where he can be, while 'under house arrest'?
Who knows where he is right now?
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@jujubii I was about to post much of the same. If he were on “house arrest” and allegedly “at home’, people would be able to verify that or at least become suspicious enough to check it out. To me that doesn’t fit with the hoax. Murray’s true, confirmed location at any time cannot be fully uncovered I feel until the end.
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Again with writing a tell-all book........
I don't think he's going to be able to make a
profit from his crime...that's usually not
allowed. The again, mass shipments of
propofol sat at the doorway to his baby mama's
place......right, nothing about this makes sense.
"... hasn't shown any true remorse for his role...."
Yeah....."role".....I am just going with that one for now : )
Blessings!
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4 gallons of propofol. :icon_eek: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/04/pharmacist-i-sold-dr-murray-4-gallons-of-propofol/
Yummy!
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4 gallons of propofol. :icon_eek: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/04/pharmacist-i-sold-dr-murray-4-gallons-of-propofol/
Yummy!
I reckon that would be a gallon a year :icon_rolleyes:
4years, 4 gallons..........something about reading that article
was extraordinary. Seeing how much propofol was ordered is
crazy....just crazy. Here is what that article listed out:
Here’s how Dr. Murray’s purchases break down:
April 6, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered one 10-bottle carton of 100 milliliter vials.
Dr. Murray also ordered a 25-bottle carton of the smaller size, 20 milliliter vials.
Three weeks later, on April 28, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered 40 bottles of the larger size and 25 bottles of the smaller size.
Around May 12, 2009, Lopez says Dr. Murray placed the same order as he did on April 28, for 40 more 100 milliliter vials, and 25 more of the 20's.
And on June 10, 2009 Dr. Murray placed his final and largest order with Lopez: 40, 100 milliter vials and 50, 20 milliter vials.
That adds up to 130 of the larger bottles (100 ml each) and 125 of the smaller bottles (25 ml each) of propofol. The Los Angeles medical examiner ruled that the singer died of acute propofol intoxication.
I feel ill just reading this.......great article though...thank you for posting it!!!!
Blessings Always
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@jujubii I was about to post much of the same. If he were on “house arrest” and allegedly “at home’, people would be able to verify that or at least become suspicious enough to check it out. To me that doesn’t fit with the hoax. Murray’s true, confirmed location at any time cannot be fully uncovered I feel until the end.
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Exactly.
Murray is the LAST thing to be addressed.
I'm never sure of if Michael could come back or what, but all I think we want to see the most is proof that he IS alive and well, and this Conrad Murray is just some sort of con-artist. Some actor, some.... something...
But he must remain out of sight for everything else to move along, so this 'house arrest' thing is actually a very good indicator that something is brewing over there. :ghsdf:
and also good for one of the main points of this hoax: for Michael to remain out of sight as well and enjoying a WHOLE different kind of peace than most people think he's 'resting' in.
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4 gallons of propofol. :icon_eek: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/04/pharmacist-i-sold-dr-murray-4-gallons-of-propofol/
Yummy!
I reckon that would be a gallon a year :icon_rolleyes:
4years, 4 gallons..........something about reading that article
was extraordinary. Seeing how much propofol was ordered is
crazy....just crazy. Here is what that article listed out:
Here’s how Dr. Murray’s purchases break down:
April 6, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered one 10-bottle carton of 100 milliliter vials.
Dr. Murray also ordered a 25-bottle carton of the smaller size, 20 milliliter vials.
Three weeks later, on April 28, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered 40 bottles of the larger size and 25 bottles of the smaller size.
Around May 12, 2009, Lopez says Dr. Murray placed the same order as he did on April 28, for 40 more 100 milliliter vials, and 25 more of the 20's.
And on June 10, 2009 Dr. Murray placed his final and largest order with Lopez: 40, 100 milliter vials and 50, 20 milliter vials.
That adds up to 130 of the larger bottles (100 ml each) and 125 of the smaller bottles (25 ml each) of propofol. The Los Angeles medical examiner ruled that the singer died of acute propofol intoxication.
I feel ill just reading this.......great article though...thank you for posting it!!!!
Blessings Always
That seems the order of a hospital :icon_lol:
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I’ve noticed that everything reported on Murray is trivial. Toilet problems, room size problems, a request for Katherine to visit, anything just to keep up appearances that he is still incarcerated, but so unimportant to the general public that they brush it off as “how stupid” :icon_mrgreen: We, on the other hand see these incidents in a different light. I think the message to us is don’t lose the faith. The hoax is still in play and things are moving right along.
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4 gallons of propofol. :icon_eek: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/04/pharmacist-i-sold-dr-murray-4-gallons-of-propofol/
Yummy!
I reckon that would be a gallon a year :icon_rolleyes:
4years, 4 gallons..........something about reading that article
was extraordinary. Seeing how much propofol was ordered is
crazy....just crazy. Here is what that article listed out:
Here’s how Dr. Murray’s purchases break down:
April 6, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered one 10-bottle carton of 100 milliliter vials.
Dr. Murray also ordered a 25-bottle carton of the smaller size, 20 milliliter vials.
Three weeks later, on April 28, 2009, Dr. Murray ordered 40 bottles of the larger size and 25 bottles of the smaller size.
Around May 12, 2009, Lopez says Dr. Murray placed the same order as he did on April 28, for 40 more 100 milliliter vials, and 25 more of the 20's.
And on June 10, 2009 Dr. Murray placed his final and largest order with Lopez: 40, 100 milliter vials and 50, 20 milliter vials.
That adds up to 130 of the larger bottles (100 ml each) and 125 of the smaller bottles (25 ml each) of propofol. The Los Angeles medical examiner ruled that the singer died of acute propofol intoxication.
I feel ill just reading this.......great article though...thank you for posting it!!!!
Blessings Always
That seems the order of a hospital :icon_lol:
that is an interesting thought. wonder the possibility that perhaps small clinics and their pataints cannot afford this for procedures and they were making a way for them to get. seems really far fetched though :-[
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Just occurred to me. Remember MJ's story of how he was locked in the bathroom at the police station after being arrested for chi-mo allegations, and there was poop on the walls and he was left in there for a length of time?
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Murray won't be out of jail this year nor maybe next year is not necessarily is bad news. It just enlightens the version that CM is not in hoax and hoax makes more sense.
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Just occurred to me. Remember MJ's story of how he was locked in the bathroom at the police station after being arrested for chi-mo allegations, and there was poop on the walls and he was left in there for a length of time?
And he said he was roughly manhandled and they put the handcuffs on too tight. That it hurt his back and he was having trouble sleeping because of that.
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Murray won't be out of jail this year nor maybe next year is not necessarily is bad news. It just enlightens the version that CM is not in hoax and hoax makes more sense.
CM not in on the hoax?? And that makes the hoax make more sense?? Sorry, scorpionchik, I don't follow your reasoning here! You'll be saying he's a real doctor next!
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Murray won't be out of jail this year nor maybe next year is not necessarily is bad news. It just enlightens the version that CM is not in hoax and hoax makes more sense.
CM not in on the hoax?? And that makes the hoax make more sense?? Sorry, scorpionchik, I don't follow your reasoning here! You'll be saying he's a real doctor next!
if you read my many previous posts since 2009, you will follow me. I am just not able to repeat them. :icon_geek:
Is CM doctor? Depends on what you mean by that. DOES HE HAVE DOCTOR's LICENSE issued in 1991 in the USA? YES! and it is not up to me, you, or anybody else to reject that fact. No one in the whole world can convince me that information I find and read on the government website which is public information and exists to protect that public, is false.
Does having a license make someone inevitably GOOD, QUALIFIED specialist? NO! Same applies to any licensed professional.
For you Curl if you missed this info.
http://www2.mbc.ca.gov/LicenseLookupSystem/PhysicianSurgeon/Lookup.aspx?licenseType=G&licenseNumber=71169
MEDICAL BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
LICENSE LOOKUP SYSTEM
License InformationSurvey InformationPublic Record Action(s)Public Record DocumentsImportant User NoticeLicense Information:
The following information is maintained by the Medical Board of California. For more information, click on the blue tabs above.
License: G 71169
Licensee may be a U.S. or Canadian medical school graduate whose pathway to licensure was based on the NBME examination.
License Type: Physician and Surgeon
Name: CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY, M.D.
Address of Record: PO BOX 72216
LAS VEGAS, NV 89170
Address of Record County: OUT OF STATE
License Status: License Suspended
Licensee has been suspended. No practice is permitted.
Public Record Action(s): Accusation Filed
A formal, public charge by the Board alleging a physician violated the Medical Practice Act. This is the result of a fully investigated complaint that has been referred to the Attorney General's Office for prosecution. Practice is permitted unless otherwise specified.
Automatic Suspension Order
Licensee suspended during incarceration following a felony conviction. No practice is allowed while the license is suspended.
Penal Code Section 23 Order
Licensee's practice has been temporarily restricted or limited pursuant to a court order.
Felony Conviction
Licensee was convicted of a felony.
Public Reprimand
Licensee was reprimanded for a minor violation(s) of the law. This is considered disciplinary action.
Disciplined By Other State/Federal Government
Another state or the federal govenment has disciplined licensee.
Original Issue Date: April 22, 1991
Expiration Date: February 28, 2011
School Name: MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
Year Graduated: 1989
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Even so...
I still agree with curls that there is something majorly messed up in the idea of CM not being in on the hoax.
I have always believed CM is 100% in on it, and performing the ONLY duty he may have in common with a REAL doctor (be CM a real doc/quack or not): helping Michael. And his extremely uncommon, drug-free (holistic!) medicine he's prescribed for Michael:
FREEDOM.
CM is, though I have no clue in what manner at this time, providing something more helpful than ANY medication to Michael: his escape.
CM has lent one of two things to Michael. Of the two, we're not sure which yet:
A) his identity to Michael (hence the "Conrad Murray = Michael in disguise" theory, which is very probable), OR
B) His word to Michael that he will never reveal MJ's true whereabouts which, for all we know, could be on Miko Brando's private island or something.
I don't believe CM spent a DAY in jail, either. OK, maybe one or two for show.
Has any reports of CM in jail come from someone maybe reliable? Someone who works at the prison, a fellow prisoner, someone? Anyone?
The 'house arrest' statement now really gave me a clue that considering CM did not commit a crime, he is not in jail. Just had his license revoked to keep the show going on, and... or, heck, he could be an actor. I'm serious.
Michael, for all his soft-spoken kind words and timid nature, was - IS - one smart man, and especially businessman.
Especially when fueled by worries of people out to hurt him, or especially jeopardize the life and safety of his children- I'm sure he would go to any length to save his life and the life of his kids.
We never know what kind of deals- totally legal ones, of course - he can make, with his money and influence - and what friends he's got in the wings.
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Scorpionchik, though it’s a possibility (I doubt) that CM is a real doctor, I really think rather that there have been elaborate fake trails of info put out to convince any curious ones who search. We’ve seen countless fake documents by now, with coroners, judges, and other official involvement. Not to mention--a whole fake trial.
Jujubii
Michael, for all his soft-spoken kind words and timid nature, was - IS - one smart man, and especially businessman.
MJ’s hired impersonator Navi described him (scroll to bottom).
What was he like?
‘Off stage he was quiet, shy and gentle. On stage he was a nut, the boss.’
http://www.positivelymichael.com/forums/showthread.php?36042-MJ-double-Navi-talks-to-Vibe-ahead-of-show-featuring-other-MJ-impersonators
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Scorpionchik, though it’s a possibility (I doubt) that CM is a real doctor, I really think rather that there have been elaborate fake trails of info put out to convince any curious ones who search. We’ve seen countless fake documents by now, with coroners, judges, and other official involvement. Not to mention--a whole fake trial.
Totally agree with this! Well put, in a nutshell, MJonmind!
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In something i agree, Murray is not in that prison then that import this title "Dr. Conrad Murray Will Not Be Home for Christmas"
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In something i agree, Murray is not in that prison then that import this title "Dr. Conrad Murray Will Not Be Home for Christmas"
Dr. Conrad Murray Will Not Be Home for Christmas because he will be enjoying Christmas somewhere else :icon_lol:: Caribbean Beaches, Aspen, Europe who knows maybe he is planning his Holidays after Michael BAMs.
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Jujubii
Michael, for all his soft-spoken kind words and timid nature, was - IS - one smart man, and especially businessman.
MJ’s hired impersonator Navi described him (scroll to bottom).
What was he like?
‘Off stage he was quiet, shy and gentle. On stage he was a nut, the boss.’
http://www.positivelymichael.com/forums/showthread.php?36042-MJ-double-Navi-talks-to-Vibe-ahead-of-show-featuring-other-MJ-impersonators
Agreed. And, in the Navi article... THIS part really stood out to me..
Navi's resemblance even led to work as a decoy.
He said: "There was one time when 2,500 people were chasing me in Thailand. I thought I would probable die that day.
:omg: De...coy...?
Someone please tell me I'm NOT nuts for the stories my mind's making up right now for just how Navi may have worked as for Michael in 2009...
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Corrected:
't was Ecas who was said to be "terminally life threatening ill" at a certain point, not Navi.
The forum got information from Ecas' representative stating that Ecas' site had been hacked when the illness statement was published.
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Why was this article posted back in October? :icon_e_confused:
....and why is Murray always trying to get out "at Christmas"?
Wouldn't you think he'd be petitioning for release throughout the year? :suspect:
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Dr. Murray was recently taken from his jail cell to the Los Angeles County Hospital because he was concerned that he had developed blood clots on his legs. After a thorough examination, at the expense of taxpayers, it was determined that Murray didn't have any blood clots.
Anyone else remember Murray's defense theory to police was that Michael threw a "blood clot" (had an pulmonary embolism) and that's what "killed" him, not the propofol? :compute:
[...]Murray contends that Michael's kids viewed him as a family member and loved him.
:ghsdf: