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Title: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: use_your_illusion on October 06, 2012, 03:18:02 AM
JOE JACKSON
NOT Ready for Close-Up
... Almost Arrested


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/05/1005-tmz-joe-jackson-3.jpg)

You would think Joe Jackson would be flattered when anyone wanted to take a picture of him ... but he flipped out when a Vegas tourist tried photographing him, and it almost landed the famous dad in the pokey.

Here's the low down.  Joe was at The Palms Thursday when a hotel guest recognized the famous dad and aimed his camera in Joe's direction.  Jackson allegedly went ballistic, screaming "Don't take pictures of me!"  The guest claims Joe lunged at him, making contact.

Joe almost got more publicity than the time he announced he signed a new rap artist days after Michael died ... because the guest called security and demanded to get Vegas cops involved.

But Joe got a reprieve ... by the time cops arrived the guest cooled down and decided not to press charges.

But here's the thing.  We don't think the guest got his picture, so here you go

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/05/1005-joe-jackson-article-7.jpg)

http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/06/joe-jackson-detained-las-vegas-hotel-assault-police-arrest-photo/


The heading got me 'NOT Ready for close-up'...does it mean that MJ is not ready for the world to see him yet?
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: RK on October 06, 2012, 05:20:54 AM
I have to say that Joe looks fantastic for a man in his eighties. You are def ready for your close up Joe.
[I'm enjoying these TMZ articles. Harvey....I've missed you]
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: marumjj on October 06, 2012, 05:34:39 AM
I find it odd that Joe, take that attitude with someone who just wanted a photo.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Adi on October 06, 2012, 06:12:24 AM
LOL!

Joe is one funny dude is all I can say.  Reminds me of that pic of Joe laughing his ass off with Jesse Jackson just after his son had "died".

I agree RK.....he does look fantastic for an 84 year old. My dad is 81 and looks alot more frail and older than Joe.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 08:30:20 AM
Do we know it even happened? These photos, are they even from this incident?


Perhaps the article was put out to simply re-hash "Joe almost got more publicity than the time he announced he signed a new rap artist days after Michael died" just to get people thinking about it again... you know "hey that doesn't sound right?"
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 06, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
Is this another Baloney Michael? I hope so  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: gwynned on October 06, 2012, 08:41:49 AM
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Do we know it even happened? These photos, are they even from this incident?


Perhaps the article was put out to simply re-hash "Joe almost got more publicity than the time he announced he signed a new rap artist days after Michael died" just to get people thinking about it again... you know "hey that doesn't sound right?"

Anything, I guess, to keep the Jackson name alive in people's minds.  I doubt there's any truth in this story, but Joe does look good for his age. 
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Sweetangel on October 06, 2012, 08:48:36 AM
Joe almost got more publicity than the time he announced he signed a new rap artist days after Michael died

Hhhhm, I have never heard that he did sign a new rap artist. All I can remember is the odd Video where he
said the cildren are feeling well and that he did found a record company with his Partner. In this Video
that was taken one or two Days after Michaels "Death", he was laughing a lot. I thought either he is a very
coldhearted Man or Michael isn't even death and the whole Thing is a hoax.

Much Peace and Love to everyone
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 08:52:51 AM
It was in a TV interview.

Here is the link. Please ignore Joe Bashing comments.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1sEJASNhqs[/youtube]


This to me was a clue that MJ wasnt even dead. Joe not even grieving.

People too busy bashing Joe to think about this interview logically.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: RK on October 06, 2012, 11:19:13 AM
Maybe it is time for Joe's close up in this saga.....here is his new painting, which he completed with the help of another artist. We were reminded that Michael wasn't the only painter in the Jackson family.
http://www.jwjackson.com/2012/09/28/commissioned-paintings/ (http://www.jwjackson.com/2012/09/28/commissioned-paintings/)

(http://www.jwjackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Series-10-1024x739.jpg)
Mr. Jackson has journeyed back to his Roots to express his most precious moment in Life through art. His son Michael Jackson was a skilled painter, a craft his mother Katherine Jackson recently speculated must have been inherited from his father.  Katherine Jackson went on to re-iterate on the Piers Morgan show, how wonderful Mr. Jackson used to paint in his younger days.

Upon careful reflection and much emotion, Mr. Jackson picked up the brushes once again and with the help of a fellow artist was able to complete the following painting dedicated to his sons. The picture expresses his happiest and greatest achievement in life.  The pinnacle of all he could achieve: Together with my Sons we stood tall. The sun high above represents warmth, hope and boundless aspirations. The sea, the  7 seas of the world, carrying their message of song and dance to all corners of the earth across. The sand, always reminded us to stay grounded.

The Series “A Glimpse of Paradise” consists of a limited set of  7 originals representing Mr. Jackson and his six sons. Each of these paintings is signed by Mr. Jackson personally. He intends to have them displayed in Museums across the world. Only 7 will ever be made.


There's that hoaxy number seven spread throughout this story...... 7 originals....Joe and his six sons make 7......across the 7 seas....777.



Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 11:25:49 AM
How awesome. And love the 7's

Just want to mention the paintings are a series called "a glimpse of paradise"

Though Joe, not a JW, JWs believe that post EOW, the earth with be restored to paradisaic conditions of the Paradise in the Garden of Eden.

The most important feature of Paradise is, wait for it.... "Resurection of dead loved ones"

Its just interesting, with speculated upcoming Bam.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: RK on October 06, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
I like the line...the picture expresses his happiest and greatest acheivment in life.
Yes Joe...I hear ya....It was your family. Your greatest achievment is your children.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 11:32:06 AM
Sorry, to be more clear. As a JW, from our beliefs the FIRST word that I associate with Paradise, is Ressurection!



Right, I'm tired, its 3:30am... Peace out!
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: MaryK on October 06, 2012, 11:39:24 AM
This is great stuff for a picture analysis.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: RK on October 06, 2012, 11:45:16 AM
@Mary....I thought when we get a glimpse of the other paintings we could start a new thread for them then. What do you think.
Interesting that the boys and Joe  in the painting all seem to be from the Bad era just like the memorial photos.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: ellyd on October 06, 2012, 12:47:41 PM
An orange heaven.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: marumjj on October 06, 2012, 02:05:05 PM
And the daughters? not deserve his paintings? or is that Joe's greatest achievement was the J5?  :WTF:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on October 06, 2012, 02:43:38 PM
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But here's the thing.  We don't think the guest got his picture, so here you go

yeah here we go.. or the story is completely made up and obviously Joe had a really good laugh..OR the truth is twisted and instead of Joe the guest almost got arrested for some reason.

LOVE
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: blankie on October 06, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
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But here's the thing.  We don't think the guest got his picture, so here you go

yeah here we go.. or the story is completely made up and obviously Joe had a really good laugh..OR the truth is twisted and instead of Joe the guest almost got arrested for some reason.

LOVE


 :moonwalk_: :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: MaryK on October 06, 2012, 04:11:24 PM
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@Mary....I thought when we get a glimpse of the other paintings we could start a new thread for them then. What do you think.
Interesting that the boys and Joe  in the painting all seem to be from the Bad era just like the memorial photos.

Yes RK, good idea! There are a lot of things in this painting and I am looking forwards to seeing and discussing the others  :)

Btw:
Quote
help of a fellow artist
...who could that be?  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: suspicious mind on October 06, 2012, 04:39:33 PM
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Maybe it is time for Joe's close up in this saga.....here is his new painting, which he completed with the help of another artist. We were reminded that Michael wasn't the only painter in the Jackson family.
http://www.jwjackson.com/2012/09/28/commissioned-paintings/ (http://www.jwjackson.com/2012/09/28/commissioned-paintings/)

(http://www.jwjackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Series-10-1024x739.jpg)
Mr. Jackson has journeyed back to his Roots to express his most precious moment in Life through art. His son Michael Jackson was a skilled painter, a craft his mother Katherine Jackson recently speculated must have been inherited from his father.  Katherine Jackson went on to re-iterate on the Piers Morgan show, how wonderful Mr. Jackson used to paint in his younger days.

Upon careful reflection and much emotion, Mr. Jackson picked up the brushes once again and with the help of a fellow artist was able to complete the following painting dedicated to his sons. The picture expresses his happiest and greatest achievement in life.  The pinnacle of all he could achieve: Together with my Sons we stood tall. The sun high above represents warmth, hope and boundless aspirations. The sea, the  7 seas of the world, carrying their message of song and dance to all corners of the earth across. The sand, always reminded us to stay grounded.

The Series “A Glimpse of Paradise” consists of a limited set of  7 originals representing Mr. Jackson and his six sons. Each of these paintings is signed by Mr. Jackson personally. He intends to have them displayed in Museums across the world. Only 7 will ever be made.


There's that hoaxy number seven spread throughout this story...... 7 originals....Joe and his six sons make 7......across the 7 seas....777.
is it just me or does micheal seem to not have any hands in this ?
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 06, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
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An orange heaven.

 :confused: :confused: Maybe is a sunset?

Reflections in the sand.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: MaryK on October 06, 2012, 04:56:24 PM
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is it just me or does micheal seem to not have any hands in this ?

I think his hands are behind his back.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: suspicious mind on October 06, 2012, 05:07:41 PM
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is it just me or does micheal seem to not have any hands in this ?

I think his hands are behind his back.

humm well then what might that say about closeness or lack of it in the group ? everyone else seems to be in poses suggesting affection .
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 06, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
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An orange heaven.

 :confused: :confused: Maybe is a sunset?

Reflections in the sand.

Do these reflections have a meaning? : Men in the mirror?  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Andrea on October 06, 2012, 05:13:18 PM
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is it just me or does micheal seem to not have any hands in this ?

I think his hands are behind his back.

humm well then what might that say about closeness or lack of it in the group ? everyone else seems to be in poses suggesting affection .

Here's the original photo...I think MJ has his hands on their backs.

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/666893341.jpg?key=640460&Expires=1349562524&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=Ighz9M4abyzuoNngWgtvTmMJASf5nsbRqeqtULDLyFkPta9t-KEv7~qxRiPbj1xfXSQuV5PZlKKGyZWPA7a5RuwWJEM9MoeE6v6sKQmVnhYFdYaCut9LCocz26Pkh7ypGJENnfNsywXOjWh-lptO9TairWpOnUdrArfsBI-xy0g_)
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: suspicious mind on October 06, 2012, 05:19:46 PM
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is it just me or does micheal seem to not have any hands in this ?

I think his hands are behind his back.

humm well then what might that say about closeness or lack of it in the group ? everyone else seems to be in poses suggesting affection .

Here's the original photo...I think MJ has his hands on their backs.

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/666893341.jpg?key=640460&Expires=1349562524&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=Ighz9M4abyzuoNngWgtvTmMJASf5nsbRqeqtULDLyFkPta9t-KEv7~qxRiPbj1xfXSQuV5PZlKKGyZWPA7a5RuwWJEM9MoeE6v6sKQmVnhYFdYaCut9LCocz26Pkh7ypGJENnfNsywXOjWh-lptO9TairWpOnUdrArfsBI-xy0g_)
oh ok . this just feels a whole lot different to me than the painting  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Sweetangel on October 06, 2012, 05:22:10 PM
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It was in a TV interview.

Here is the link. Please ignore Joe Bashing comments.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1sEJASNhqs[/youtube]


This to me was a clue that MJ wasnt even dead. Joe not even grieving.

Thank you Aussie,
but it was a Hoax Video with parts of your Video included. In this Video they showed a Pic where Joe Jackson
was laughing. They said it was taken the same Day. Damm I can't remember the Title nor the Channel where
I saw it. Impossible to find it. I could find the whole Interview and I have to admit that I was wrong, Joe
didn't laughed in that Video but I found his behavior and his choice of Words kinda odd.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27665VPRmQ[/youtube]


As I was searching for the Video I stumble over this Video

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27665VPRmQ[/youtube]

YEP for sure @tainamusic7 upload 10.07.2012 by mikeoblestv.

Who is playing?  :icon_lol:

Much Peace and Love to everyone.



Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Sweetangel on October 06, 2012, 05:27:11 PM
Damm what happend now. Why invalid youtube Link?

Joe Jackson Interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27665VPRmQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwynHMBjN08

Much Peace and Love to everyone

Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 05:38:28 PM
People should stop hating on Joe and open their eyes!

"We lost the biggest superstar" etc.




EDIT - This comment was regarding the video links that sweet angel posted
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: MJonmind on October 08, 2012, 04:37:41 AM
Aussie
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As a JW, from our beliefs the FIRST word that I associate with Paradise, is Ressurection!
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Wiki:  the Abrahamic faiths associate paradise with theGarden of Eden, that is, the perfect state of the world prior to the fall from grace, and the perfect state that will be restored in the World to Come.
So maybe resurrection and restored goodness.

Ellyd
Quote
An orange heaven.
Our forum colors!  And we HAVE had a heavenly time here!

And it would be lovely if MJ was the helper artist, unless they come out with the artist's name.  Maybe that’s why MJ's arms/hands are hidden, showing his hidden hands or work in it, and his 'hidden hand' all we see with the hoax.

In MJ's 'One more chance', he tells the "7 seas to be near her". Unrelated I guess.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: paula-c on October 08, 2012, 06:15:01 PM
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Jackson allegedly went ballistic, screaming
:thjajaja121:


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/10/05/1005-joe-jackson-article-7.jpg)
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 08, 2012, 08:54:55 PM
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An orange heaven.

 :confused: :confused: Maybe is a sunset?

Reflections in the sand.

Do these reflections have a meaning? : Men in the mirror?  :icon_lol:

 :affraid: that is funny.  :icon_lol:

I thought the same thing about his "greatest accomplishments" - they don't include the girls. I think it's fine to have a picture with just his boys or maybe it's because the boys got the ball rolling. IDK.

What I did notice is that they are all wearing long ties except for Michael. Michael is the only one with a hat even though Tito wears a hat but it makes sense if he dated it back a few years. They are all wearing white shirts except for he and Michael. This painting can't represent the J5 because Randy didn't belong to the J5. It can't be the Jacksons because Jermaine didn't belong to the Jacksons. So, maybe a compilation of the two? What else I noticed is that he positioned himself in between the two lead singers, Jermaine and Michael. I wonder if there is meaning in that.

The comment about having a hand from a guest also made me think of a certain incredible artist we all admire.

Blessings to you.
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: bugsy on October 09, 2012, 12:41:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27665VPRmQ

It's time for the straight Jacket for me... Michael has some facial expressions like his dad, I actually for a moment wondered if it was really Michael lol!  :-[

Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: 2good2btrue on October 09, 2012, 01:30:20 AM
Joe almost got more publicity than the time he announced he signed a new rap artist days after Michael died

TMZ obviously aware of just how strange Joe's reaction to his son's death was...........

How would they know "How much publicity" Joe received??   We, the beLIEvers are the ones that gave it so much attention by thinking it was really wierd...So are TMZ confirming they too are aware MJ's alive by confirming this fact.

This is one of the clues from the beginning............Start = End  :affraid: :affraid:
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: curls on October 09, 2012, 06:53:54 AM
Seems like several things from the weird list are re-surfacing around now - maybe MJ's giving everyone 'one more chance' to see what he's been up to!
Title: Re: JOE JACKSON NOT Ready for Close-Up ... Almost Arrested
Post by: emulik on October 10, 2012, 04:39:24 AM
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I thought the same thing about his "greatest accomplishments" - they don't include the girls. I think it's fine to have a picture with just his boys or maybe it's because the boys got the ball rolling. IDK.
yes, the boys got the ball rolling. Maybe next time we will see painting of girls.
Very nice paiting indeed!
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