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Title: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MaryK on August 02, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
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Katherine Jackson is strongly suggesting she was tricked into traveling to Tucson last month and BLOCKED from communicating with MJ's children -- this according to a sworn declaration by Katherine herself.

Katherine filed the declaration as part of her bid to obtain co-guardianship over Prince, Paris, and Blanket.

In the docs, Katherine claims she was scheduled to go on a road trip to New Mexico to watch her sons in concert -- but on July 14th, an unnamed doctor showed up to her house and told her it was better for her to take a plane instead.

Katherine says she obliged -- believing the doctor was under the orders of her longtime physician -- but when she got off the plane ... she found herself in Tucson, where she had been set up at a luxury resort.

According to her lawyer, "Her children took her to a spa ... because she had high blood pressure."

When she got to the resort, Katherine says her phone and iPad were taken away -- and her in-room telephone was disconnected. She says her TV was also shut off.

When Katherine asked about the grandchildren, she was told "they were fine" and there was nothing to worry about. She says she did NOT know she had been reported missing and her grandkids were freaking out.

Katherine says, "At the time, I trusted the people I was with to be honest with me."

The declaration flies completely in the face of the statements Katherine previously made in an interview with ABC News, when she called her sudden absence last month a "short vacation."

During the interview, Katherine -- surrounded by Jermaine, Rebbie, and Janet -- said, "One reason I didn't call is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here."

In her declaration, Katherine never specifies who sent the doctor to her house, or who accompanied her to the spa.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/02/katherine-jackson-arizona-trip-prince-paris-blanket-jermaine-rebbie-janet/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/02/katherine-jackson-arizona-trip-prince-paris-blanket-jermaine-rebbie-janet/)
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: Andrea on August 02, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
Oh there was duping, but it wasn't Katherine who was DUPED.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: JesusLover05 on August 02, 2012, 05:23:16 PM
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Oh there was duping, but it wasn't Katherine who was DUPED.

      I agree. KAtherine was not duped at all.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: Andrea on August 02, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
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Oh there was duping, but it wasn't Katherine who was DUPED.

      I agree. KAtherine was not duped at all.

The dupees were the media and anyone gullible enough to believe the media.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: blankie on August 02, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
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Oh there was duping, but it wasn't Katherine who was DUPED.


Agree Andrea  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on August 02, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
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Katherine Jackson is strongly suggesting she was tricked into traveling to Tucson last month and BLOCKED from communicating with MJ's children -- this according to a sworn declaration by Katherine herself.

Katherine filed the declaration as part of her bid to obtain co-guardianship over Prince, Paris, and Blanket.

In the docs, Katherine claims she was scheduled to go on a road trip to New Mexico to watch her sons in concert -- but on July 14th, an unnamed doctor showed up to her house and told her it was better for her to take a plane instead.

Katherine says she obliged -- believing the doctor was under the orders of her longtime physician -- but when she got off the plane ... she found herself in Tucson, where she had been set up at a luxury resort.

According to her lawyer, "Her children took her to a spa ... because she had high blood pressure."

When she got to the resort, Katherine says her phone and iPad were taken away -- and her in-room telephone was disconnected. She says her TV was also shut off.

When Katherine asked about the grandchildren, she was told "they were fine" and there was nothing to worry about. She says she did NOT know she had been reported missing and her grandkids were freaking out.

Katherine says, "At the time, I trusted the people I was with to be honest with me."

The declaration flies completely in the face of the statements Katherine previously made in an interview with ABC News, when she called her sudden absence last month a "short vacation."

During the interview, Katherine -- surrounded by Jermaine, Rebbie, and Janet -- said, "One reason I didn't call is I just gave up my phone and I didn't want to have any phone calls while I was here."

In her declaration, Katherine never specifies who sent the doctor to her house, or who accompanied her to the spa.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/02/katherine-jackson-arizona-trip-prince-paris-blanket-jermaine-rebbie-janet/ (http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/02/katherine-jackson-arizona-trip-prince-paris-blanket-jermaine-rebbie-janet/)
So did Michael
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 02, 2012, 06:27:32 PM
Duped.......no.  It's a setup...

Katherine Jackson, as well as Paris, Prince and Blanket Jackson, are being used as "pawns" to cover up the fact that Michael Jackson's will is fraudulent, according to a Jackson family source.
Contrary to various online reports, Katherine's children stress they are not after the money in Michael's estate.
Our source adds:
"Everyone knows that even if Michael didn't have a will written up, his children would be given the money from the estate by default. His siblings obviously aren't after his fortune because they were never set to earn it in the first place. It's about revealing the truth and who's behind the fake document."
Family members believe the temporary guardianship situation was created by the estate executors as a diversion from the investigation into the validity of the will. This morning, Katherine was reinstated as guardian of Michael's three children with her grandson TJ serving as co-guardian until the next court hearing on August 22.
The source goes on to say:
"Interesting how only those children who are removing their name from the letter, like Jermaine recently did, are being allowed to see their mother. The rest have been banned from seeing her or even speaking to her on the phone."
The letter that's being referred to is the one sent from Michael's siblings to John Branca and John McClain ... asking them to resign as co-executors of the King of Pop's estate because they've "failed to perform" their duties.
We've reached out to both Branca and McClain for comment, but have yet to hear back.

Read more at http://www.x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/katherine_jackson_michael_children_estate_will_guardianship_080212.php#tR7FZjBrqwQySxTk.99
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 02, 2012, 06:42:23 PM
This is the court document.......

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Katherine-Jackson-Guardianship-Declaration.pdf

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Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MaryK on August 02, 2012, 07:05:59 PM
2good I cannot follow your reasoning here.

If the temporary guardianship situation was created by the Estate, that would also mean that they set up the whole situation.
Like taking Katherine to the spa, taking away the phones etc.
But that was allegedly planned and executed by her children as Jermaine has stated a few times.

And I am saying "allegedly" here bc I still believe that ALL was a set-up by MJ himself.

So how do those two things match in your opinion?

Or are you saying that the Estate seized the opportunity (KJ on vacation, not accessible etc.) to create the temporary guardianship situation?
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: mindseye on August 02, 2012, 08:10:07 PM
As someone may have mentioned in another thread this sounds like a similar setup to MJ's situation - having been kept away from family, phones, tv, computers prior to his death.

Family members believe the temporary guardianship situation was created by the estate executors as a diversion from the investigation into the validity of the will.

I'm thinking this is false and MJ creating the illusion that it's the executors.  :ghsdf:

MJ helped write that declaration.  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MJonmind on August 03, 2012, 12:14:12 AM
It's the 'pass the blame' game!  KJ and siblings blame the Estate, PPB blame the siblings, Estate blames KJ and siblings!

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And the non-believer fans/public are getting more dizzy and confused... :animal0017: :errrr:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MaryK on August 03, 2012, 02:42:48 AM
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It's the 'pass the blame' game!  KJ and siblings blame the Estate, PPB blame the siblings, Estate blames KJ and siblings!

(http://tabbycatmusicarchives.com/alicesanimations/00images2/afcarouselsm.gif)

And the non-believer fans/public are getting more dizzy and confused... :animal0017: :errrr:

Not only the non-believer fans. It happens to a lot of believers as well. Even here on the forum. Many believe that the family feud was real.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 03, 2012, 08:51:20 AM
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As someone may have mentioned in another thread this sounds like a similar setup to MJ's situation - having been kept away from family, phones, tv, computers prior to his death.

Family members believe the temporary guardianship situation was created by the estate executors as a diversion from the investigation into the validity of the will.

I'm thinking this is false and MJ creating the illusion that it's the executors.  :ghsdf:

MJ helped write that declaration.  :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

I think I'm saying that the estate organised a doctor for Katherine, and then made sure that the children were kept out of the loop about her whereabouts.  Suggestion were planted in the childrens mind by Trent and the security that are being hired by the estate...They also prevented Janet Jermaine & Randy from entering the property which the estate are paying rent for..

So, is it possible that everyone, including P,P &B where in the know, and that it was a set-up to see what the executors would do in this situation??? How do you think the media made up these rumours about Katherine being kidnapped?  The executors are trying to affect the credibility of the family, because they wanted to create a distraction to what is really going down...The will is fake, and they panicked...Damage control..Am I making any sense here???   :judge-smiley:
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MJonmind on August 04, 2012, 02:56:25 AM
2good2btrue, wouldn't believing that the Estate is really not wanted by MJ, falling into MJ's trap? He's saying the whole story-line is a set-up, which would include Branca and Mclaine IMO.

Front on June 16
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Never ceases to amaze me how relentlessly tabloid ASSociatES scour their shoebox environment for a few measly morsels to quell their insatiable de$ire. Aww---such a shame all 25 of their brain cells are expending precious time & energy on something that will forever be out of their reach…..MJ is ALWAYS 1 step ahead. Haven't ya learned that yet?!

Follow the trail of crumbs…..fall right into MJ's trap.
Happy hunting!
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: Grace on August 04, 2012, 03:30:49 AM
"Katherine never specifies who sent the doctor to her house, or who accompanied her to the spa."

Everything under control in the camp.

Who can set up this

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can for sure upset the world whenever wanted.

The impact of the catalog in music business has been multiplied.
Now one could argue the cake was already big enough to attract flies - why make it even bigger?
Maybe the fly targeted to get trapped is of such caliber and greed that the cake had to be made irresistible to get that bluebottle hooked for sure.

The family feud caught attention thus making the family stay safe (and win the news race).
The feud family vs estate catches enough attention to make the estate and the catalog stay safe.
This is not only first class marketing - this is big business poker at its finest.

Go Michael!
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MJonmind on August 04, 2012, 04:50:31 AM
Yup, I think Matolla, Al Malnik and Donald Trump and other high-stakers might be part of this.
We're led to believe they're bad guys, but maybe they fulfill parts of the hoax.  MJ spent at least 6 months staying with both Malnik and Trump where they discussed many matters including business.

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http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=13650

This is a seeming random thought, but it comes to my mind many times.  In the movie Rocketeer there's various groups that get involved in the trying to get the personal rocket pack-- the hero with girl and friends, the Germans who want it for Hitler, and the American mafia.  In the end the mafia help to save the day and I always remember what the leader says.  Something like, "I might be a bad guy but I'm American and I will defend America against outsiders."  Is MJ someone who will band together even some notorious bad guys when we're all fighting an outside force -- perhaps NWO, TPTB?
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on August 04, 2012, 05:13:02 AM
@MJonmind.......are you suggesting that Michael is partnering with the bad guys to fight against the most evil?
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: suspicious mind on August 04, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
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"Katherine never specifies who sent the doctor to her house, or who accompanied her to the spa."

Everything under control in the camp.

Who can set up this

(http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/full_michael_jackson_funeral_005_wenn5346398.jpg) (http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/full_michael_jackson_funeral_005_wenn5346398.jpg)


can for sure upset the world whenever wanted.

The impact of the catalog in music business has been multiplied.
Now one could argue the cake was already big enough to attract flies - why make it even bigger?
Maybe the fly targeted to get trapped is of such caliber and greed that the cake had to be made irresistible to get that bluebottle hooked for sure.

The family feud caught attention thus making the family stay safe (and win the news race).
The feud family vs estate catches enough attention to make the estate and the catalog stay safe.

This is not only first class marketing - this is big business poker at its finest.

Go Michael!

humm i was actually getting a little nervous but these two points in particular make sense to me.
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: wishingstar on August 04, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
It has always been my belief that while Michael had his enemies and people were truly evil towards him; he also had many friends...friends in high places.  It's been said here many times, Michael is a very astute businessman.  His smartness in
the business world would have surely earned him the respect of some powerful players in the world. 
Just my two cents for the moment.......java calling! 

Blessings
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: blankie on August 04, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
Katherine, Prince, Paris e Blanket are in  the Michael's life the   most important persons...  :icon_rolleyes:

If there is much talk about them.. is because something is happening   :ghsdf: ... I do not know what... :suspect: but is certainly something of very important...  :errrr:....
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: MJonmind on August 05, 2012, 04:42:47 AM
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@MJonmind.......are you suggesting that Michael is partnering with the bad guys to fight against the most evil?
That's an interesting way to put it.  Sometimes 'bad' can be relative. Robin Hood wasn't considered bad, yet he stole from the rich and gave to the poor.  Is stealing from the Government bad?  The government steals billions from ordinary people, but it's not considered theft.  Even MJ said he was 'bad' in a good way!
Title: Re: Katherine Jackson Suggests She Was DUPED Into Arizona Trip
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on August 05, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
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@MJonmind.......are you suggesting that Michael is partnering with the bad guys to fight against the most evil?
That's an interesting way to put it.  Sometimes 'bad' can be relative. Robin Hood wasn't considered bad, yet he stole from the rich and gave to the poor.  Is stealing from the Government bad?  The government steals billions from ordinary people, but it's not considered theft.  Even MJ said he was 'bad' in a good way!

I agree to use bad guys to destroy the most devilish world elite, those who are controlling us and using us to make their dreams come true, those who with this world crisis are getting richer. What these people want are wars wars and more wars to lower the world population and become more powerful.
ps: Michael how would we be able to stop it from its root? I know is a chimera :(
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