Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: truthseeker07 on July 28, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
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Hi - I'm new to the hoax site, so am still learning. Can anyone explaine Jermaine's statement about MJ not being alive please? I thought Jermaine was giving out subtle clues that he was alive, so why would he do this? how does this fit in with the hoax? I'm confused :over-react-smiley:
http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=5012
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ain't this old news?
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Well he's not just going to come out and say that Michael is alive, is he?
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The family has been giving DEAD statements in interviews from the very beginning.
And at the same time, the same family has been giving ALIVE clues, slip-ups, etc... ever since the beginning.
Of course they publicly say he's dead, while on twitter and through other subtle means they clearly let us know he's alive.
That's how a hoax works: ambiguity, duality! double reality... contradictory statements, controversy, confusion, etc...
That's why there are believers & non-believers!
One group was open to receive also the subtle clues, the other group believed the "official version' and never looked underneath the surface.
For some he's alive, for most he's dead ---> that's the hoax.
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The family has been giving DEAD statements in interviews from the very beginning.
And at the same time, the same family has been giving ALIVE clues, slip-ups, etc... ever since the beginning.
Of course they publicly say he's dead, while on twitter and through other subtle means they clearly let us know he's alive.
That's how a hoax works: ambiguity, duality! double reality... contradictory statements, controversy, confusion, etc...
That's why there are believers & non-believers!
One group was open to receive also the subtle clues, the other group believed the "official version' and never looked underneath the surface.
For some he's alive, for most he's dead ---> that's the hoax.
Sim, I really appreciate your post and think its a perfect explanation.
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Hi truthseeker. Don't let this concern you too much. This is old news. In fact, it was May 2011 that this statement was made. Here is a video from that hoax time frame.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_kN9laYkhI[/youtube]
Hope this helps to build your knowing.
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This statement was made last year, if you read the comments above you can see the dates.
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ain't this old news?
yes
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Anyways, Jermaine is not going to say Michael Jackson is Alive. Michael Jackson has to say that he is alive and not dead once he comes out of hiding.
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Groundless theory. Ambulance pic #1 looks just like MJ and #2 was created from layers, one of which was MJ or MJ dummy posing for pic with paramedics aka a FAKE.
Also gurney pic, #1 looks just like MJ, #2 was an old, out of circulation style gurney no longer used at UCLA for several years prior. Autopsy pic #1 looks just like MJ, #2 was altered (stretched).
Even with just those 3 things, sorry JesusLover, but your theory has been long ago debunked.
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Groundless theory. Ambulance pic #1 looks just like MJ and #2 was created from layers, one of which was MJ or MJ dummy posing for pic with paramedics aka a FAKE.
Also gurney pic, #1 looks just like MJ, #2 was an old, out of circulation style gurney no longer used at UCLA for several years prior. Autopsy pic #1 looks just like MJ, #2 was altered (stretched).
Even with just those 3 things, sorry JesusLover, but your theory has been long ago debunked.
Thanks for debunking my theory. Anways, the pictures of MJ on the gurney and the autopsy photo was photoshopped. I talked to my professor and he said they were photoshopped.
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The family has been giving DEAD statements in interviews from the very beginning.
And at the same time, the same family has been giving ALIVE clues, slip-ups, etc... ever since the beginning.
Of course they publicly say he's dead, while on twitter and through other subtle means they clearly let us know he's alive.
That's how a hoax works: ambiguity, duality! double reality... contradictory statements, controversy, confusion, etc...
That's why there are believers & non-believers!
One group was open to receive also the subtle clues, the other group believed the "official version' and never looked underneath the surface.
For some he's alive, for most he's dead ---> that's the hoax.
Sim this is a perfect explanation of the hoax. You have a good thought process and a way with words. :bearhug:
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you have a professor? he he :icon_lol:
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@sandythime, Aussie: :bearhug: We are all lucky to have the best teacher ever!! :icon_e_wink: :moonwalk_:
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Thanks for debunking my theory. Anways, the pictures of MJ on the gurney and the autopsy photo was photoshopped. I talked to my professor and he said they were photoshopped.
You're... welcome? Sorry, your thank you surprised me. I'm confused I think. If you already knew the pics were altered why would you be supporting the theory that an old man died in MJ's place? They were altered, of course, but they were altered from pics of MJ or pics of something that looked exactly like MJ (dummy). They aren't artist renditions, for example, created from nothing, they were created from something, and that something is a pic of MJ or an MJ look-a-like something. And how do you show pics like that to the people who allegedly worked on/saw the proposed old man patient and pass the pics of "MJ" off as real unless they are all in on it? And if they're all in on it, who are you trying to fool with a dead old man?
Regardless, I think it's neat that you asked your professor's opinion of the pics. What is he a professor of, if you don't mind me asking?
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You're... welcome? Sorry, your thank you surprised me. I'm confused I think. If you already knew the pics were altered why would you be supporting the theory that an old man died in MJ's place? They were altered, of course, but they were altered from pics of MJ or pics of something that looked exactly like MJ (dummy). They aren't artist renditions, for example, created from nothing, they were created from something, and that something is a pic of MJ or an MJ look-a-like something. And how do you show pics like that to the people who allegedly worked on/saw the proposed old man patient and pass the pics of "MJ" off as real unless they are all in on it? And if they're all in on it, who are you trying to fool with a dead old man?
Regardless, I think it's neat that you asked your professor's opinion of the pics. What is he a professor of, if you don't mind me asking?
Well, I am not supporting the theary that an old man died in MJ's place anymore. I do think Michael Jackson is alive and that he faked his death due to death threats and his life being in danger.
My professor is a professor of computer science and he teaches a class on Photoshop at the college I am going too.
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I was kind of hoping you'd say that JesusLover, thank you for sharing.
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Perfect professor then to have 'on call' throughout hoax !
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