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Title: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Adi on July 24, 2012, 10:20:15 AM
JACKSON FAMILY
Showdown Video --
Friendly Before Fight


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/07/24/072412-jacksons-launch-1.jpg)

TMZ has obtained the unedited full video of what turned into a confrontation at the Jackson family compound Monday in Calabasas, CA.

It starts out friendly enough, with MJ's kids Paris and Prince getting out of their SUV and shaking hands and hugging a few of Michael's siblings who arrived in the SUV behind them.

But moments later, things turned ugly.

The footage shows Janet confronting MJ's daughter Paris ... and during the standoff, Janet swipes for Paris' cell phone twice.

Paris charges past Janet ... and when Janet attempts to go after Paris, Janet is restrained by her brother Randy.

Randy and Janet proceed to hold up their cell phones and record Paris.

After the video ends, there was a physical altercation at the home between two family members. Cops arrived to the scene and took a battery report.

According to the MJ Estate, Michael's children have since been moved away from the home and into a secure location.

Jackson Family Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/michael-jackson-house-confrontation-paris-jermaine-randy-tito-janet/)


(I can't seem to include the video here)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Adi on July 24, 2012, 10:22:44 AM
That's it for me today - I can't keep up with all the face-off's and the showdowns in this hoax......my head is aching... lol

I'll guess I'll find out any more developments in the morning.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Adi on July 24, 2012, 10:33:14 AM
Interesting wording in the title: "Friendly before Fight"

so before I hit the hay.....I just had a thought in relation to this that it 'appears' from these reports that Katherine and MJ's children have been moved away somewhere from Calabasas....Katherine supposedly to Arizona (although she may be someplace else) and the kids to a "secure location" which could mean anywhere I suppose.

So I wonder *what*  is really going on?  (or about to go on?)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: wishingstar on July 24, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
Since when do surveillance cameras shake, pan and zoom?  Good thing too, it's not a criminal situation with strangers.....you couldn't actually see the faces on the driveway video, lol.  Horrible quality...they should get a refund for whoever sold them that system  :icon_lol:  Please.....we are supposed to believe this stuff?  Really? Also, what's with Janet and Randy videoing or taking photos themselves anyways.......what is we are to take from this?  My eyes are getting stuck in the rolled up position  :icon_rolleyes:
Ugh.......TMZ have mercy!

Blessings
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Love4Michael on July 24, 2012, 10:38:19 AM
Interesting tweet just now...

Genevieve Jackson ‏@RealGenevieveJ
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
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Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: paula-c on July 24, 2012, 10:38:32 AM
I don't see violence in the video :argue: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: RK on July 24, 2012, 10:43:08 AM
Me either Paula. TMZ you are overstretching here.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: reveron1958 on July 24, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
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Interesting tweet just now...

Genevieve Jackson ‏@RealGenevieveJ
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
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'pains'  :icon_e_surprised: :icon_e_confused: :computer-losy-smiley: :icon_albino: :icon_lol: :omg:

yabba dabba dooooo!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: mindseye on July 24, 2012, 10:55:14 AM
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Interesting tweet just now...

Genevieve Jackson ‏@RealGenevieveJ
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
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pain(s)  :icon_albino: i'm thinking here we go everyone... hang on tight!  :icon_eek:  Just saw your post reveron1958  :icon_lol:

The video is sent in from someone ....MJ? To me, looks orchestrated with the cars arriving, then the last part is someone video taping the security surveillance to show Janet and Randy video taping Paris and their conversations. They also included Janet reaching for Paris's iphone....as was written in another story.
This is visual evidence to convince everyone there is conflict and kids-  Paris is on estate's side.  :ghsdf:
Everything is being video taped...filmed.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: bec on July 24, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Notice the "Total Recall" trailer before both these past videos from TMZ.

I speculated months ago the the public and the fans will experience total recall upon bamsday when they realize none of this was real... total recall all the way back to 6/25/09, and even prior, all of the events, everything was staged, everything was an illusion, and they been punked.

Lol. Loving every minute of this.

So what do you think, is that MJ filming all this from above?

*insert Liberian Girl "that's a wrap" pic here*
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: MaryK on July 24, 2012, 11:12:45 AM
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Notice the "Total Recall" trailer before both these past videos from TMZ.

I speculated months ago the the public and the fans will experience total recall upon bamsday when they realize none of this was real... total recall all the way back to 6/25/09, and even prior, all of the events, everything was staged, everything was an illusion, and they been punked.

Lol. Loving every minute of this.

So what do you think, is that MJ filming all this from above?

*insert Liberian Girl "that's a wrap" pic here*

 :woohoo2:

Yes yes....noticed that too.

I can´t watch the vid, does not work for me here grrrrr
Could be Blanket filming though  :icon_lol:
Or is he in the vid?

 :beerchug:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: wishingstar on July 24, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
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Notice the "Total Recall" trailer before both these past videos from TMZ.

I speculated months ago the the public and the fans will experience total recall upon bamsday when they realize none of this was real... total recall all the way back to 6/25/09, and even prior, all of the events, everything was staged, everything was an illusion, and they been punked.

Lol. Loving every minute of this.

So what do you think, is that MJ filming all this from above?

*insert Liberian Girl "that's a wrap" pic here*

I love this quote from the 1990 Total Recall's IMDB (plot summary):

"What is reality when you can't trust your memory?"

Total Recall (1990) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100802/)

Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: JukeBox on July 24, 2012, 11:16:56 AM
LOL nice video, TMZ. Michael could well be in the video and I wouldn't be able to tell. :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: RK on July 24, 2012, 11:23:48 AM
So many developments / stories that my head is spinning and I'm feeling hoax intoxicated.  I LOVE it!!!!!  :icon_lol:
Now seems the shit is about to hit the fan...or should I say fans.  :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 11:26:43 AM
I have no clue on how to make a new topic this should be under twitter.
Is this Trent Jackson THE Trent Jackson if so then look on what he is tweeting

Trent Jackson (TrentTheArtist) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/TrentTheArtist)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: mindseye on July 24, 2012, 11:30:04 AM
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Notice the "Total Recall" trailer before both these past videos from TMZ.

I speculated months ago the the public and the fans will experience total recall upon bamsday when they realize none of this was real... total recall all the way back to 6/25/09, and even prior, all of the events, everything was staged, everything was an illusion, and they been punked.

Lol. Loving every minute of this.

So what do you think, is that MJ filming all this from above?

*insert Liberian Girl "that's a wrap" pic here*

 :woohoo2:

Yes yes....noticed that too.

I can´t watch the vid, does not work for me here grrrrr
Could be Blanket filming though  :icon_lol:
Or is he in the vid?

 :beerchug:

Nice connection  :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red

I see Blanket in the video. I thought about MJ filming, but he's with Katherine....somewhere.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Andrea on July 24, 2012, 11:34:55 AM
I'm at work and went out for a smoke with some guy and I started talking about the hoax (I couldn't help myself with all that's going on, lol).

His reaction. "WTF, you're retarded, he's dead". 

He actually called me that!  I had to laugh at him though that's how he is and because he's obviously clueless and apparently very close-minded.

I explained to him about what's been going on and he said "Whatever, you're out to lunch".
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: bec on July 24, 2012, 11:36:04 AM
Lol. He will come crying back, dumbfounded and wide eyed later. That'll be fun, Andrea.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: mindseye on July 24, 2012, 11:39:28 AM
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I have no clue on how to make a new topic this should be under twitter.
Is this Trent Jackson THE Trent Jackson if so then look on what he is tweeting

Trent Jackson (TrentTheArtist) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/TrentTheArtist)

Thanks for finding that... wow.

deleted for now, rather off.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: RK on July 24, 2012, 11:47:22 AM
I really have a problem with the way this Trent speaks about Paris. How do we know this the real Trent Jackson's account?
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
I dont know if it is... I just found it and thought maybe worth keepin an eye on it.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Andrea on July 24, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Quote
Lol. He will come crying back, dumbfounded and wide eyed later. That'll be fun, Andrea.

Oh I can't wait bec! I basically told him that too, lol, and that's when he said I was out to lunch.  This guy's reasoning skills are messed up though, he thought I was a lesbian because I went on a vacation with a gay (male) friend. 
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: bec on July 24, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
@Andrea, sadly that seems to be the normal level of reasoning skills.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: wishingstar on July 24, 2012, 12:00:32 PM
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I really have a problem with the way this Trent speaks about Paris. How do we know this the real Trent Jackson's account?

Exactly what I was thinking......
his whole demeanor seems arrogant and condescending..."THOSE" kids are not considered "family"...really?

Were we correct..... that the kids were with Michael from the beginning.  "THOSE" kids are not his kids....
OMGosh, my head hurts  :Pulling_hair:

But, I agree...something is off with this Trent dude. Is there a good picture of him somewhere.....when I google
him, I get a lot of Katherine and Michael.  Can't tell who I am looking at.....

LOVE
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: mindseye on July 24, 2012, 12:07:42 PM
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I dont know if it is... I just found it and thought maybe worth keepin an eye on it.

After reading his site, idk who it is. Not sure if this guy is connected to family, looks like a fan of Janet Jackson.
It's offensive, maybe not worth reading.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: RK on July 24, 2012, 12:10:30 PM
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Were we correct..... that the kids were with Michael from the beginning.  "THOSE" kids are not his kids....
OMGosh, my head hurts 
My head also Wishy. Brain turning to mush. Hoax overload.
Seriously, I had the same fleeting thought regarding the kids, but dismissed it almost instantly as crazy talk.
A personal Assistant usually has a certain level of decorum and a more congenial demeanor don't they? Like good people skills at the least? This is somebody I would not want representing me in any way. Unless he also is a bad-ass actor. But still....can't abide by the language he uses regarding Paris. Makes me want to slap his face.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
I believe he (Trent) is sayin it out of MJ's brothers prespective.
Jeoulosy maybe. But this might not even be trent.
Paris and acting I dont know how that fits in if he were to be on paris side, this is still too confusing for me. :(
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 24, 2012, 12:51:01 PM
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I don't see violence in the video :argue: :icon_lol:

I knew I’d seen that picture before @Paula.  Click on the arrows in the picture that TMZ posted above & your signature picture along with some other MJ related photos come up.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 01:07:46 PM
Is it just me or does it look like janet AND randy are both filming/taking pictures with their cell phones?
And randy smiling while filming with his phone.
Like it is a game to them or something... The kids however seem upset.

This is so messed up!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 24, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
@Magic - I saw that too.  Interesting.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: sandythyme on July 24, 2012, 01:44:44 PM
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Were we correct..... that the kids were with Michael from the beginning.  "THOSE" kids are not his kids....
OMGosh, my head hurts 
My head also Wishy. Brain turning to mush. Hoax overload.
Seriously, I had the same fleeting thought regarding the kids, but dismissed it almost instantly as crazy talk.
A personal Assistant usually has a certain level of decorum and a more congenial demeanor don't they? Like good people skills at the least? This is somebody I would not want representing me in any way. Unless he also is a bad-ass actor. But still....can't abide by the language he uses regarding Paris. Makes me want to slap his face.

Wishy & RK - I thought about this too from the beginning, what if these kids are really good doubles and Michael and  "his" kids have been together the whole thyme?   I am sorry, I am over worked and in a hoax frinzy, crazy thought.  What's up with Randy smiling into his camera/phone is this a kodak moment?  Are we getting to the end of this ride?   :bearhug:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Celestria007 on July 24, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
Hello All & Souza,

What in the hologram is going on round here?  Many of us had it right back in 2009 - that this is a straight up ARG - and MJ is the Master.  After all, he has been sharing his Master-Hood with the world for many years. 

The Jacksons are playing their parts.  If you go back to the Guest Forum - I posted back then that the Jacksons would tour again - and the tour would be called "Unity."  Sure did.  Of course, I wasn't spot on as it pertained to my saying that MJ would be a part of the unification - unless he has been around in some capacity, like he was with Omer as the "Snake Man."

I think the children we have been seeing are MJ's real children.  I don't think they are actors.  They are acting though - for real.  They are very enlightened beings - and most likely Star Seeds.  Paris was acting up there on stage at the Memorial whilst she was crying with an earpiece all up in her ear.  LOL!  All of the Jacksons are doing their parts - to include Anthony and TJ, I see.  I do declare! 

It's all heating up because MJ is getting ready to appear in front of Humanity as an Ascended Human Master - and as a Transluminal Soul.  The only way humanity will believe that we are all Immortal Souls is for them to see and recognize someone that is loved the World over from our not so distant past.  Of course, MJ won't be the only Ascended Human Master to appear at that/this/NOW Time that is upon us. It'll all be good.

Thanks by the way to the poster that posted the link to a forum where they were talking/posting about the Denver shooting.  It is an outstanding link - and proves to me that something is not right with that entire scenario - and then the Little Wayne (Sickening - by the way) video of him and 12 skeletons.  Tsk-tsk!  Thank God we all know that life in 3-D is a flat out illusion.  That's what MJ meant when he sang - "You're stuck in the middle."  In 3-Darn-D.

Below is just some of the things we got to look forward to people.  "Unity Consiousness & Living One Vibrational Energy" is still the order of the NOW.

By the way, have you ever noticed that H-EART = E-ARTH?

L.O.V.E. to one and all.

Love you Michael "I'm the master of my own reality", Jackson. 

P.S. - I hope Mr. & Mrs. Jackson are doing well and are looking forward to 12-21-2012.  They've earned it.

Multidimensional Transformation and Spiritual Creativity (http://blog.peterborysjr.com/)

Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/ (http://Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 03:05:57 PM
Hmm... I do not think that is THE Trent Jackson, he is someone else...  :suspect:

I am expecting Michael back to next year if not then he will never return.
He did have a great amount of love for this planet, humans and animals so that is the only reason to why I believe he might return with the others. I hope he does!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: MaryK on July 24, 2012, 03:54:55 PM
So I am watching TMZ live now and those TMZ guys are totally frantic.

Totally jumping on the siblings bashing bandwagon.

Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: trublu on July 24, 2012, 04:01:14 PM
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So I am watching TMZ live now and those TMZ guys are totally frantic.

Totally jumping on the siblings bashing bandwagon.

yes i am watching too...did they say the kids are i danger or did i misunderstand? 
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 24, 2012, 04:02:08 PM
My love for Michael grows stronger each day.
Now when seeing what some of his brothers and sisters are really about it hurts me to see that family would turn like that.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: MaryK on July 24, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
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So I am watching TMZ live now and those TMZ guys are totally frantic.

Totally jumping on the siblings bashing bandwagon.

yes i am watching too...did they say the kids are i danger or did i misunderstand?

I think they said that yes.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: trublu on July 24, 2012, 04:08:13 PM
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So I am watching TMZ live now and those TMZ guys are totally frantic.

Totally jumping on the siblings bashing bandwagon.

yes i am watching too...did they say the kids are i danger or did i misunderstand?

I think they said that yes.

thank you, sometimes it's hard the hear them!

what a spectacle!!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: blankie on July 24, 2012, 04:18:25 PM
These pictures remind me the arrival of the machines at Forest Lawn  in September 3, 2009....... :icon_rolleyes:..... :icon_mrgreen:

 :icon_mrgreen: guys ... really is a film...and the best is yet to come !!!!   :moonwalk_: :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: trublu on July 24, 2012, 04:29:37 PM
my god now they're saying janet slapped paris !
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 24, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
@ celestria007 - welcome to the forum
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: bec on July 24, 2012, 10:40:56 PM
@Celestria007, welcome, or welcome back. Interesting post.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: RK on July 24, 2012, 11:02:10 PM
Hello Peacock7 aka Flowergirl
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Grace on July 25, 2012, 12:22:25 AM
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By the way, have you ever noticed that H-EART = E-ARTH?

It's grand.
I once said in 2009 I was expecting Michael to go 4D.
He goes 5D - including our knowledge and boiling time down to NOW.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: annieareyouokannie on July 25, 2012, 03:14:33 AM
Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SEHF on July 25, 2012, 03:30:57 AM
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Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!

Someone was obviously controlling it remote. There are lots of zoom/tilt/pan security cameras.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: MJonmind on July 25, 2012, 03:34:52 AM
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Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!

Someone was obviously controlling it remote. There are lots of zoom/tilt/pan security cameras.
How come you're so smart?  :suspect: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SEHF on July 25, 2012, 03:37:35 AM
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Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!

Someone was obviously controlling it remote. There are lots of zoom/tilt/pan security cameras.
How come you're so smart?  :suspect: :icon_lol:

special oils
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: MJonmind on July 25, 2012, 03:41:56 AM
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Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!

Someone was obviously controlling it remote. There are lots of zoom/tilt/pan security cameras.
How come you're so smart?  :suspect: :icon_lol:

special oils
:affraid:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Billie J on July 25, 2012, 04:41:57 AM
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Like someone else said, since when do cctv cameras zoom in and out and
follow people??? Does anyone know of cameras that actually do this!!

I hate to be a party killer, but if you look around 01:46 you can see someone film a tv screen showing the video "Jackson Family Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight " on TMZ
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: annieareyouokannie on July 25, 2012, 05:16:38 AM
Sorry, I cant seem to see it. Where on the screen, left, right top, bottom?
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SimPattyK on July 25, 2012, 05:36:31 AM
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Hello All & Souza,

What in the hologram is going on round here?  Many of us had it right back in 2009 - that this is a straight up ARG - and MJ is the Master.  After all, he has been sharing his Master-Hood with the world for many years. 

The Jacksons are playing their parts.  If you go back to the Guest Forum - I posted back then that the Jacksons would tour again - and the tour would be called "Unity."  Sure did.  Of course, I wasn't spot on as it pertained to my saying that MJ would be a part of the unification - unless he has been around in some capacity, like he was with Omer as the "Snake Man."

I think the children we have been seeing are MJ's real children.  I don't think they are actors.  They are acting though - for real.  They are very enlightened beings - and most likely Star Seeds.  Paris was acting up there on stage at the Memorial whilst she was crying with an earpiece all up in her ear.  LOL!  All of the Jacksons are doing their parts - to include Anthony and TJ, I see.  I do declare! 

It's all heating up because MJ is getting ready to appear in front of Humanity as an Ascended Human Master - and as a Transluminal Soul.  The only way humanity will believe that we are all Immortal Souls is for them to see and recognize someone that is loved the World over from our not so distant past.  Of course, MJ won't be the only Ascended Human Master to appear at that/this/NOW Time that is upon us. It'll all be good.

Thanks by the way to the poster that posted the link to a forum where they were talking/posting about the Denver shooting.  It is an outstanding link - and proves to me that something is not right with that entire scenario - and then the Little Wayne (Sickening - by the way) video of him and 12 skeletons.  Tsk-tsk!  Thank God we all know that life in 3-D is a flat out illusion.  That's what MJ meant when he sang - "You're stuck in the middle."  In 3-Darn-D.

Below is just some of the things we got to look forward to people.  "Unity Consiousness & Living One Vibrational Energy" is still the order of the NOW.

By the way, have you ever noticed that H-EART = E-ARTH?

L.O.V.E. to one and all.

Love you Michael "I'm the master of my own reality", Jackson. 

P.S. - I hope Mr. & Mrs. Jackson are doing well and are looking forward to 12-21-2012.  They've earned it.

Multidimensional Transformation and Spiritual Creativity (http://blog.peterborysjr.com/)

Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/ (http://Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/)

Interesting post!
Welcome on the forum! :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SimPattyK on July 25, 2012, 05:51:37 AM
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Interesting tweet just now...
Genevieve Jackson ‏@RealGenevieveJ
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
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Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 25, 2012, 06:11:05 AM
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Hello All & Souza,

What in the hologram is going on round here?  Many of us had it right back in 2009 - that this is a straight up ARG - and MJ is the Master.  After all, he has been sharing his Master-Hood with the world for many years. 

The Jacksons are playing their parts.  If you go back to the Guest Forum - I posted back then that the Jacksons would tour again - and the tour would be called "Unity."  Sure did.  Of course, I wasn't spot on as it pertained to my saying that MJ would be a part of the unification - unless he has been around in some capacity, like he was with Omer as the "Snake Man."

I think the children we have been seeing are MJ's real children.  I don't think they are actors.  They are acting though - for real.  They are very enlightened beings - and most likely Star Seeds.  Paris was acting up there on stage at the Memorial whilst she was crying with an earpiece all up in her ear.  LOL!  All of the Jacksons are doing their parts - to include Anthony and TJ, I see.  I do declare! 

It's all heating up because MJ is getting ready to appear in front of Humanity as an Ascended Human Master - and as a Transluminal Soul.  The only way humanity will believe that we are all Immortal Souls is for them to see and recognize someone that is loved the World over from our not so distant past.  Of course, MJ won't be the only Ascended Human Master to appear at that/this/NOW Time that is upon us. It'll all be good.

Thanks by the way to the poster that posted the link to a forum where they were talking/posting about the Denver shooting.  It is an outstanding link - and proves to me that something is not right with that entire scenario - and then the Little Wayne (Sickening - by the way) video of him and 12 skeletons.  Tsk-tsk!  Thank God we all know that life in 3-D is a flat out illusion.  That's what MJ meant when he sang - "You're stuck in the middle."  In 3-Darn-D.

Below is just some of the things we got to look forward to people.  "Unity Consiousness & Living One Vibrational Energy" is still the order of the NOW.

By the way, have you ever noticed that H-EART = E-ARTH?

L.O.V.E. to one and all.

Love you Michael "I'm the master of my own reality", Jackson. 

P.S. - I hope Mr. & Mrs. Jackson are doing well and are looking forward to 12-21-2012.  They've earned it.

Multidimensional Transformation and Spiritual Creativity (http://blog.peterborysjr.com/)

Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/ (http://Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/)

Sorry, but those 'powers that be' believe the same New Age shit you just posted: that THEY themselves can become God. That goes STRAIGHT against what the Bible teaches which is that there is only one God. Michael, with his religious background, would never claim he could become God, that is against everything he believes in.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SimPattyK on July 25, 2012, 06:19:09 AM
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I'm at work and went out for a smoke with some guy and I started talking about the hoax (I couldn't help myself with all that's going on, lol).

His reaction. "WTF, you're retarded, he's dead". 

He actually called me that!  I had to laugh at him though that's how he is and because he's obviously clueless and apparently very close-minded.

I explained to him about what's been going on and he said "Whatever, you're out to lunch".

After BAM , you should wear a T-shirt: "Now who's retarded!!?? Eat yo' lunch!"
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Billie J on July 25, 2012, 06:36:49 AM
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Sorry, I cant seem to see it. Where on the screen, left, right top, bottom?

Don't be sorry ,you can see it on the left side. it helps if you pause the video at 01:45. and if keep looking after that you can see what seems to be the security tapes numbers.

Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: annieareyouokannie on July 25, 2012, 07:42:30 AM
Ok I see what you mean now. Thanks for that. It looks like the person filming the footage on the tv screen is the one zooming and scanning, not the actualy cctv camera.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Love4Michael on July 25, 2012, 07:44:03 AM
You can see the frame that the video monitors are housed in to the left of the screen and the time stamp numbers come in and out of frame on the bottom of the screen.  It's someone definitely filming what's being recorded (or played back) on the monitors.  I watched it several times trying to figure out what the red reflection is that appears at the bottom part way through.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Andrea on July 25, 2012, 08:46:32 AM
LOL @ Sim.  I'll definitely have some fun with it!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Celestria007 on July 25, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
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Hello All & Souza,

What in the hologram is going on round here?  Many of us had it right back in 2009 - that this is a straight up ARG - and MJ is the Master.  After all, he has been sharing his Master-Hood with the world for many years. 

The Jacksons are playing their parts.  If you go back to the Guest Forum - I posted back then that the Jacksons would tour again - and the tour would be called "Unity."  Sure did.  Of course, I wasn't spot on as it pertained to my saying that MJ would be a part of the unification - unless he has been around in some capacity, like he was with Omer as the "Snake Man."

I think the children we have been seeing are MJ's real children.  I don't think they are actors.  They are acting though - for real.  They are very enlightened beings - and most likely Star Seeds.  Paris was acting up there on stage at the Memorial whilst she was crying with an earpiece all up in her ear.  LOL!  All of the Jacksons are doing their parts - to include Anthony and TJ, I see.  I do declare! 

It's all heating up because MJ is getting ready to appear in front of Humanity as an Ascended Human Master - and as a Transluminal Soul.  The only way humanity will believe that we are all Immortal Souls is for them to see and recognize someone that is loved the World over from our not so distant past.  Of course, MJ won't be the only Ascended Human Master to appear at that/this/NOW Time that is upon us. It'll all be good.

Thanks by the way to the poster that posted the link to a forum where they were talking/posting about the Denver shooting.  It is an outstanding link - and proves to me that something is not right with that entire scenario - and then the Little Wayne (Sickening - by the way) video of him and 12 skeletons.  Tsk-tsk!  Thank God we all know that life in 3-D is a flat out illusion.  That's what MJ meant when he sang - "You're stuck in the middle."  In 3-Darn-D.

Below is just some of the things we got to look forward to people.  "Unity Consiousness & Living One Vibrational Energy" is still the order of the NOW.

By the way, have you ever noticed that H-EART = E-ARTH?

L.O.V.E. to one and all.

Love you Michael "I'm the master of my own reality", Jackson. 

P.S. - I hope Mr. & Mrs. Jackson are doing well and are looking forward to 12-21-2012.  They've earned it.

Multidimensional Transformation and Spiritual Creativity (http://blog.peterborysjr.com/)

Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/ (http://Http://dimensionalvisions.wordpress.com/)

Sorry, but those 'powers that be' believe the same New Age shit you just posted: that THEY themselves can become God. That goes STRAIGHT against what the Bible teaches which is that there is only one God. Michael, with his religious background, would never claim he could become God, that is against everything he believes in.

Hey Souza,

Sorry, but I'm not saying MJ claimed to be God.  He said he wanted to be Christ like - and did he or did he not?  To this day, he is CHRIST PROTECTED.  It is all about Ascension these days - and it is most definitely not only new agers discussing it.  The 26,000 year cycle will end at the end of this year - and the Earth and the entire Milky way galaxy is supposed to align with the Galactic Central Sun.  The so-called Junk DNA these dumbed down scientists call it is really inactive DNA.  When those powerful waves and vibrations hit the Earth by the end of this year - those dormant DNA strands are supposed to be activated by the LIGHT - and our human consciousness will expand beyond some folks' imaginations (not mine - and the ones not based in fear), and we will then become Multidimenional beings with a brand new - Multidimensional Operating System (MOS) (MJ is already operating this way).  I posted about it on one of Omer's videos - and he responded by connecting with me thru a post or so of his and some images he posted (like a picture of MJ and Stevie Wonder with MJ looking around 15, as he was staring at Stevie in the studio).  I had mentioned something about Stevie singing at Whitney's funeral - and other stuff and then - dadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. 

When a human being ascends - their carbon based body is then changed to a Crystalline one.  MJ has always had a Christ Consciousness - and that ain't gone change.  Please research the Light Body Process.  Check out the below album cover.  Many of us knew about this projection and prophesy many-many years ago - back in the seventies - as the group The Fifth Dimension (and other musicians) were telling us about the coming "Age of Aquarius."  A Golden Age on Earth.  Well, it is upon us - and there is no question.

If one can imagine a better future on a new timeline - why wouldn't one wish to visualize and imagine it?  Imagine when we will all live as one and will come from a place of Unconditional Love.  Is that so hard?  The Hippies protested the Viet Nam war and they tried to come from that place - until the PTB placed drugs in their midsts.  Isn't Love, Peace and all of that want MJ has always wanted?  Well - he has always known about this coming age.  It'll take 4 years to get it right.  This is why Teddy Riley and Santana stated that MJ was an Arch Angel - and his father wore that pendant of MJ's pose from "This Is It."  He can ascend at anytime seemingly.   The upcoming "Event" is exactly what MJ was speaking about.  I betcha!

Butterflies = Rebirth - Earth Song.

Sorry if you don't believe me Souza, but many of us will ascend to the 5th Dimension.  Donald Rumsfeld and them did some Remote Viewing (looked thru a looking glass - instrument) to see future timelines in 1977.  For the end of 2012, they chose the one of chaos, death and destruction.  In the early nineties up until now when they look, they see "A Wall of Light."  And there is nothing they can do about it.  What is light?  It is Information, Truth - and L.O.V.E. 

What Donte Jackson says below is exactly right - and his Uncle Michael taught them ALL of what they now know and profess.  This has nothing to do with New Age; unless one counts the fact that they also know what is coming.  By this point, it is no secret.  Many know that this cycle ends on 12-21-12.  Everything is planned by Divine Will.  Just like the fact that we are Immortal Souls (MJ's last CD & Las Vegas thingy = IMMORTAL), and we have had many past lives.  We all incarnated with a Soul Contract.  Our souls knew what we were coming to Earth to experience before we incarnated.  Now, our Soul Contracts are over - and it is a great day to be able to understand all of this - and to look to a new and glorious future.  It is the first time human being will be able to ascend in bodily form instead of thru the death experience.  Many of us come from other planets or dimensions.

Why should we have the Internet for instance by then - when we will have an expanded human consciousness - where anything we want to know will become instant knowledge.  We'll have to be careful with our imaginations and thoughts - because our thoughts will be instantly manifested, as we will become Soverign Creator Beings.  Isn't MJ one and has always been?  Hasn't he always had visions and was the Master of creation and his reality?  In this sense, we will be Goddesses/Gods.  No question!  I already know I'll be a Goddess with Divine Feminine Energies.  Why wouldn't anyone wish not to relate to, identify with and express the Divine Essence within us (God Spark) - as this is why most souls incarnate ultimately - in order for experience and to seek and remember the Divine = God/Nature/Universe that is in us? 

One day in the not so distant future - new technologies will be released - and one will be able to travel from LA to Africa let's say - in ten minutes.  Imagination is the key - because just because we have been living this reality for eons doesn't mean that it is the only one that we can imagine - is it?  Don't we want a Better Place for you and for me - and the entire human race?  Why should we stay enslaved as we have been always on this Planet?

It is truly an exciting time to be alive.  It is also a hilarious time to be alive.  MJ is an Ascended Human Master - and that is in no way saying that he is God.  One day soon many of us will ASCEND to the 5th Dimension.  And that ain't gone change.  It's written in the Divine Plan for Earth/Gaia - as she is already in the 4th Dimension.  Plants are of the 1st Dimension.  Animals are of the 2nd Dimension - and because the Planet Earth was quarantined for thousands of years - since the fall of Atlantis - our Planet has been delegated to the 3rd Dimension (low density/material based and low vibrations).  When we dream - we dream in the 4th Dimension.  The off-worldly types dwell in the lower 4th (Astral Realm) Dimension - and this is why God is going to skip us to the 5th.

Anonymous asked:Hey Donte, do you believe that the world as we know it will cease to exist in December of 2O12? -Cease to exist?"

"No, not at all. I believe the world is simply experiencing a total re-birth. Both Consciously & Cosmically.  On a conscious level: human beings are entering a whole new level of spiritual and scientific awareness. I believe the shift is already occurring now, and december 2012 is just a date chosen by astrologically advanced ancient civilizations to mark this culmination period. On a cosmic level: the universe is literally aligning with our galactic center in the cosmos. There is a famous saying and it goes: “the planets are lining up”. When certain planets align or line up, and in this case the entire Milky Way Galaxy is aligning, certain energies will be exposed to Earth that have never been experienced by humans alive today. I believe these energies will accelerate human beings capacity to acknowledge each other as separate parts of the same divine whole. Otherwise known as God, Allah, The Universe, Source Energy, Creation, Nature etc…. In other words, we are evolving on a conscious level. We are entering a whole new paradigm on an energetic level. And lastly we are collectively coming to the realization that we are one, on a cosmic level."


WE ARE ALL MASTERS (http://dontejackson13.tumblr.com/)

The Year 2012 (http://www.theyear2012.blogspot.com/)

P.S. - I couldn't post image - so please click on the link to see the Light Body and 7 Chakras that Earth, Wind and Fire knew about way back then.  Many in the entertainment field learned about such things - and Ancient Aliens from the Masons probably.  Would Michael Jackson not beware of all of this?  Didn't he do the score to ET?

Amazon.com: Powerlight: Music (http://www.amazon.com/Powerlight-Earth-Wind-Fire/dp/B0000025TA)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Magic_Love_4U on July 25, 2012, 09:01:58 AM
Great post Celes

I never compare myself or say I am God but I am a part of God and to me God is a source/energy. Nor do I want to be sociated to any religion or new age stuff, I am me and believe in what I choose to end of story. I dont understand why people must label everything and put people into groups...

We all should just respect eachothers beliefs and views.
We all go through life on different paths.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 25, 2012, 09:26:41 AM
@ Celestria007

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P.S. - I hope Mr. & Mrs. Jackson are doing well and are looking forward to 12-21-2012.  They've earned it.

Welcome to the forum, what are you trying to say that BAM's day will be next Dec 21?

BTW I can't see any face on that video I don't think they are Jackson family but I am celebrating that Michael is trying to get the media crazy but the problem is that we are getting crazy too! Michael this hoax is gonna turn out very expensive for you cause in the end you will have to pay us a psychiatrist  :animal0017:. 
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 25, 2012, 09:35:38 AM
Celestria007 (why again a new username?), where is your Biblical argumentation for that? Quoted from your the link you posted: "Thus, we are transforming to our multidimensional capabilities in both time and location as we shift dimensions and evolve to a new Divine humanity on Earth."

Please show me where that was prophesied in the Bible, because my Bible tells a different story. It does WARN though that stories like yours would pop up all over the place and that we should not be deceived by it. If you answer, do so on the other forum where we discuss religious things Michael's Army of Love (http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com) since you are trying to promote your New Age beliefs now somewhere it doesn't belong. Here's an interesting video (thank you Jono for sending that one to me) that might explain my position on this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M[/youtube]

And now back on topic in here.
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Josiec84 on July 25, 2012, 10:07:35 AM
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You can see the frame that the video monitors are housed in to the left of the screen and the time stamp numbers come in and out of frame on the bottom of the screen.  It's someone definitely filming what's being recorded (or played back) on the monitors.  I watched it several times trying to figure out what the red reflection is that appears at the bottom part way through.

It could be Michael Jackson filming  :) :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: julia142 on July 25, 2012, 11:10:58 AM
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I'm at work and went out for a smoke with some guy and I started talking about the hoax (I couldn't help myself with all that's going on, lol).

His reaction. "WTF, you're retarded, he's dead". 

He actually called me that!  I had to laugh at him though that's how he is and because he's obviously clueless and apparently very close-minded.

I explained to him about what's been going on and he said "Whatever, you're out to lunch".

After BAM , you should wear a T-shirt: "Now who's retarded!!?? Eat yo' lunch!"

 :thjajaja121:

Nice one Sim!!!!!! loooooooooooooooooooooool!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: YoungMack on July 25, 2012, 12:43:06 PM
Hahahahahahahah I was thinking the same!!!!!!
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Since when do surveillance cameras shake, pan and zoom?  Good thing too, it's not a criminal situation with strangers.....you couldn't actually see the faces on the driveway video, lol.  Horrible quality...they should get a refund for whoever sold them that system  :icon_lol:  Please.....we are supposed to believe this stuff?  Really? Also, what's with Janet and Randy videoing or taking photos themselves anyways.......what is we are to take from this?  My eyes are getting stuck in the rolled up position  :icon_rolleyes:
Ugh.......TMZ have mercy!

Blessings
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Billie J on July 25, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
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You can see the frame that the video monitors are housed in to the left of the screen and the time stamp numbers come in and out of frame on the bottom of the screen.  It's someone definitely filming what's being recorded (or played back) on the monitors.  I watched it several times trying to figure out what the red reflection is that appears at the bottom part way through.

@Love4Michael thanks so much for summing up, what I have already written

@annieareyouokannie Good you saw what I saw too :bearhug:
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: wishingstar on July 25, 2012, 01:16:09 PM
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Hahahahahahahah I was thinking the same!!!!!!
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Since when do surveillance cameras shake, pan and zoom?  Good thing too, it's not a criminal situation with strangers.....you couldn't actually see the faces on the driveway video, lol.  Horrible quality...they should get a refund for whoever sold them that system  :icon_lol:  Please.....we are supposed to believe this stuff?  Really? Also, what's with Janet and Randy videoing or taking photos themselves anyways.......what is we are to take from this?  My eyes are getting stuck in the rolled up position  :icon_rolleyes:
Ugh.......TMZ have mercy!

Blessings

After SEHF pointed out that these camera do in fact have these capabilities, I went looking.  Sure enough, turtle dude is correct. However, the quality of these videos is way under what these cameras are able to produce.  The pixilation alone should you tell something's not right.  Just so odd.......

Here's a site that talks about PTZ cameras, if anyone's interested:

General Security Cameras - PAN TILT ZOOM CAMERAS (http://www.surveillance-video.com/pantilzoomca1.html)

I wonder what Ben E. is up to these days....have we heard anything from him?  I remember him talking about cameras etc...once again, we see a view from behind Michael's camera.

LOVE
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 25, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
Was this filmed with a potato? Sometimes I wonder if they're doing all this to prove Michael was a good father, I don't know who thought he wasn't but I'm sure there's some. Katherine disappears for a week and "look what happens"
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: SimPattyK on July 25, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
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Was this filmed with a potato? [...]
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/MDR-mort-de-rire.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/MDR-mort-de-rire.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Rires/MDR-mort-de-rire.gif)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: rachel1018 on July 25, 2012, 04:35:27 PM
ha!!!! its staged...........right MJ??? :)
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: blankie on July 25, 2012, 05:00:03 PM
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I'm at work and went out for a smoke with some guy and I started talking about the hoax (I couldn't help myself with all that's going on, lol).

His reaction. "WTF, you're retarded, he's dead". 

He actually called me that!  I had to laugh at him though that's how he is and because he's obviously clueless and apparently very close-minded.

I explained to him about what's been going on and he said "Whatever, you're out to lunch".

After BAM , you should wear a T-shirt: "Now who's retarded!!?? Eat yo' lunch!"


 :th_bravo: great Sim !!!!!! I want ten of these shirt !!!!
Title: Re: JACKSON FAMILY Showdown Video -- Friendly Before Fight
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 26, 2012, 10:26:44 AM
re: new age baloney... (my new word)

agenda or what??  :icon_rolleyes:


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Please show me where that was prophesied in the Bible, because my Bible tells a different story. It does WARN though that stories like yours would pop up all over the place and that we should not be deceived by it.

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