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Title: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Adi on July 20, 2012, 03:15:51 AM
RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON
Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ...
Allegedly


7/20/2012 12:50 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Randy, Jermaine Jackson Hatch Plot to Get Michael Jackson's Money -- Allegation | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/19/randy-jermaine-jackson-hatch-plot-get-michael-jackson-money-allegation/)

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Randy and Jermaine Jackson are trying to get at Michael Jackson's money, by hatching a sinister plot involving Katherine Jackson ... so claim sources connected with the Michael Jackson Estate.

Randy, Jermaine, Janet, Tito and Rebbie Jackson all signed a letter, demanding that the Executors of the MJ Estate step down, claiming the executors are failing so badly, the stress caused Katherine to suffer a stroke.

Sources connected with the Estate are now lashing back, telling TMZ they believe Randy and Jermaine (they are not including the others) are strapped for cash and know when Katherine dies there is no way they can get their hands on a penny of MJ's fortune -- that's because all of the money goes to charity and in trust for Michael's 3 kids.

Our sources believe ... Randy and Jermaine are trying to make it appear that Katherine is infirm and may need a conservatorship.  And the sources further believe Randy and Jermaine will try and get themselves appointed as her conservators, which would give them access to more than $70,000 a month.

We know Katherine's people have denied she had a stroke.  As for the Estate failing miserably, it seems like bad timing, because new court docs just revealed the Estate has grossed nearly half a billion dollars, wiping out MJ's massive debt.

Calls to Randy and Jermaine have not been returned.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: MJonmind on July 20, 2012, 03:41:56 AM
Oh boy...   :errrr:
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: jam4truth on July 20, 2012, 04:29:37 AM
Love the wording of the heading "...Allegedly"  :icon_rolleyes:
One of the keywords in the hoax...

"Alleged victim Michael Joseph Jackson, alleged date June 25th 2009."

"The LA Lakers have signed a new team doctor. Conrad Murray... Who allegedly killed the King of Pop.. Who has a killer shoot allegedly." <--- from an lunatic epsiode of TMZ TV
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: marumjj on July 20, 2012, 04:42:32 AM
We will see that account for twitter.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: sandythyme on July 20, 2012, 05:50:04 AM
As the plot thickens.......  So many twists and turns to this greatest show on earth  ???
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 20, 2012, 06:09:24 AM
This doesn't make any sense to me.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: curls on July 20, 2012, 06:16:05 AM
Where is all this going? It's just adding fuel to the fire of those who already think badly about the brothers.

For what it's worth, surely they ARE going to get their hands on (at least some of) MJ's money, if they're not already - surely he will be paying them handsomely for their not insignificant parts in this whole hoax! They deserve it!
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: MaryK on July 20, 2012, 06:33:46 AM
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Where is all this going? It's just adding fuel to the fire of those who already think badly about the brothers.

For what it's worth, surely they ARE going to get their hands on (at least some of) MJ's money, if they're not already - surely he will be paying them handsomely for their not insignificant parts in this whole hoax! They deserve it!

Good question. I don´t know where this is going but, frankly and honestly, I don´t like the new "plot".

Edit: just to clarify: I don´t mean the plot mentioned in the TMZ caption but the hoax plot.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 20, 2012, 06:35:08 AM
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Love the wording of the heading "...Allegedly"  :icon_rolleyes:
One of the keywords in the hoax...

"Alleged victim Michael Joseph Jackson, alleged date June 25th 2009."

"The LA Lakers have signed a new team doctor. Conrad Murray... Who allegedly killed the King of Pop.. Who has a killer shoot allegedly." <--- from an lunatic epsiode of TMZ TV


Yes, allegedly alleged false allegations....probably :icon_mrgreen:
I'm sure that only Michael knows what's happening and that's enough for me.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: curls on July 20, 2012, 06:57:09 AM
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Yes, allegedly alleged false allegations....probably :icon_mrgreen:
I'm sure that only Michael knows what's happening and that's enough for me.

L.O.V.E.

Are you sure Michael knows what's happening?  I sometimes wonder if he's not sitting back just watching like we are, at least some of the time. But no, you're most probably right!

You know what I hope?  If MJ's hoax achieves anything in regards to the media I hope it is to ban the use of anonymous 'sources' and the use of the word allegedly! That way what we read we would know has been checked for authenticity, isn't just made-up,  and if found actually to be false could be referred back to a named source. If you don't want to be named you shouldn't be blabbing to the press - Michael!

@MaryK, I agree - I don't much like this turn in the plot either.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 20, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
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This doesn't make any sense to me.

makes two of us!


i don't know how to process all this. trusting it's part of the show and is strategic...

i guess, to coin a phrase from front. truth will prevail = time.

Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 20, 2012, 07:20:03 AM
Supposedly Katherine is on a "planned" vacation and has been gone for about a week.  It is also reported that Paris went wild on twitter because she wasn't apprised of Katherine's whereabouts and when she tried to call her she was not allowed to speak to her.  Hmmm....  As of last night, one of the names was erased from the letter.  Sounds strange to me. 
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Loveunited on July 20, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
Hesoutta,
sorry, what do you mean

As of last night, one of the names was erased from the letter.

?
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 20, 2012, 08:04:20 AM
The signature page, Tito's signature was removed though his typed name remains intact.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 20, 2012, 08:28:16 AM
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Yes, allegedly alleged false allegations....probably :icon_mrgreen:
I'm sure that only Michael knows what's happening and that's enough for me.

L.O.V.E.

Are you sure Michael knows what's happening? I sometimes wonder if he's not sitting back just watching like we are, at least some of the time. But no, you're most probably right!

You know what I hope?  If MJ's hoax achieves anything in regards to the media I hope it is to ban the use of anonymous 'sources' and the use of the word allegedly! That way what we read we would know has been checked for authenticity, isn't just made-up,  and if found actually to be false could be referred back to a named source. If you don't want to be named you shouldn't be blabbing to the press - Michael!


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You know what I hope?  If MJ's hoax achieves anything in regards to the media I hope it is to ban the use of anonymous 'sources' and the use of the word allegedly!
I do hope the same!

Quote
Are you sure Michael knows what's happening?
No actually I'm not sure... I was expressing my faith in Michael that this could be all part of the hoax to teach the media a lesson, I do hope so. I will not trust the media as long as there's no proof and sources are not clear, so I won't take this news seriously. Though I hope that the public's thinking the same and has learned not to trust the media blindly.

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 20, 2012, 08:31:48 AM
This day in HIStory......20th July...


20 July 1969 : Neil Armstrong sets foot on the Moon  HOAXAt 10:56 p.m. EDT, American astronaut Neil Armstrong, 240,000 miles from Earth, says these immortal words to more than a billion people listening at home: "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." Stepping off the lunar landing module Eagle, Armstrong became the first human to walk on the surface of the moon...

Today is Friday, July 20, 2012

Today in
Michael Jackson History


1971 - The Jackson Five began a U.S. tour at the Coliseum in Charlotte, NC.

1996 - Michael Jackson visited Nelson Mandela in Pretoria, South Africa. He also announced that he was working on a film about Mandela.

2004 - Michael Jackson's publicist denied a report in US Weekly that Jackson was about to become a father to quadruplets via a surrogate mother. A spokesperson for US Weekly told Reuters that is stands by its story and cite unnamed sources close to Jackson as confirming the story.

2005 - Michael Jackson did not appear for a hearing he was ordered to attend in a Louisianna civil court. The hearing was for a civil suit filed by an alleged abuse victim.



Just wondering if there is any connection.........Maybe its just HIStory repeating itself.....Don't always beLIEve what you read..........Cheers
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 20, 2012, 08:43:11 AM
Or better still........bible connections again...

Matthew 7:20     20th July =   Chapter 7 verse 20.

Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions. :michael-jackson:

Matthew 7:20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. (http://bible.cc/matthew/7-20.htm)
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Andrea on July 20, 2012, 08:57:22 AM
Ya, use of the word "alleged" is telling here because you can say anything you want (no matter how untrue it is) by using the word "alleged" and not get in trouble for it. 

From reading the comments on the "Big Fat Liar" article TMZ did recently, it seems their "source" is based on a lot of those comments, lol, because many were assuming that this was an attempt to get Michael's $$.

@2good - interesting about the moon "landing" anniversary.  I was talking to someone from work this morning about that.  He's a mason and says he doesn't know what really happened there and that there is evidence on both sides of the argument as to whether the moon landing happened or not.  He also said that the reason the masons are so good at keeping their secrets is that they tell the world so much about themselves anyways, both truth and lies, so that people will never know what's actually going on with them.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Loveunited on July 20, 2012, 08:58:21 AM
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The signature page, Tito's signature was removed though his typed name remains intact.


Ah, thanks. I only ever saw the version with his name but no signature. have you seen one with his signature?  I'm wondering if he ever signed it, or if we are being played with electronically with that.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Loveunited on July 20, 2012, 09:05:52 AM
Its the Estate's response which has started the alleged spin of brothers wanting money from challenging the will. nice little diversion from the serious content of the allegations in the letter!  In all the tabloid focus about division in the family, at least abc news is picking up on the CONTENT of the letter--probably to the consternation of those who would wish to bury it.....
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 20, 2012, 09:09:34 AM
According to this report, the family just wants what Michael wanted....not to have Mclain or Branca in charge of the fake will....watch this:

BREAKING NEWS! HLN TV: Letter from MJ family to John Branca and John McClain - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoG6yaAu3uE&feature=youtu.be)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoG6yaAu3uE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: curls on July 20, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
Great, now we're getting somewhere - coming right out and saying it's a fake will, will lead to all sorts of other questions - like who, where, when, why. I can't wait to see what answers they come up with!
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: paula-c on July 20, 2012, 09:52:30 AM
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Supposedly Katherine is on a "planned" vacation and has been gone for about a week.  It is also reported that Paris went wild on twitter because she wasn't apprised of Katherine's whereabouts and when she tried to call her she was not allowed to speak to her.  Hmmm....  As of last night, one of the names was erased from the letter.  Sounds strange to me.



And Paris did not live in the house of his grandmother that she is his tutor', as it is that she does not know where it is?
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 20, 2012, 09:54:13 AM
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Great, now we're getting somewhere - coming right out and saying it's a fake will, will lead to all sorts of other questions - like who, where, when, why. I can't wait to see what answers they come up with!

This news is fantastic..just what we needed to hear.   :abouttime:


Michael lives for contraversey...and now his got it!!!!   So the siblings are just doing exactly what MJ wanted.....:multiplespotting:
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Andrea on July 20, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
Agree curls, especially if they start playing around with the numbers and seeing all the 7s!
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: bec on July 20, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
Great stories. Exactly what the public wants to hear. The fans have collectively hated on Jermaine for years, accusing him of being jealous of MJ and being out to get his hands on the money, etc. Also, how Katherine is so old n infirmed, remember armchair speculators doubting that she could handle raising the children when she was appointed guardian, again etc. If you tell them what they want to hear, or what they already think they know, it will never occur to them that it might not be true. More rope being handed out.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 20, 2012, 10:15:27 AM
Devil's advocate here - if Katherine were ill & could no longer care for the children according to will their care goes to Diana Ross. Do you think this could be seen as an underlying reason for the battle?
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: MJonmind on July 20, 2012, 01:49:31 PM
I thought Janet was arranging to care for the kids though.

If we trust Front and TS, then we have to trust his family. Period.

Curls
Quote
For what it's worth, surely they ARE going to get their hands on (at least some of) MJ's money, if they're not already - surely he will be paying them handsomely for their not insignificant parts in this whole hoax! They deserve it!

Hessouttamylife
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Supposedly Katherine is on a "planned" vacation and has been gone for about a week.  It is also reported that Paris went wild on twitter because she wasn't apprised of Katherine's whereabouts and when she tried to call her she was not allowed to speak to her.  Hmmm....  As of last night, one of the names was erased from the letter.  Sounds strange to me.
Do you have more on this? Thanks.

I'm always reminded of Breaking News, "As the plot thickens..." including the family. 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbnbmNuW8ho[/youtube]
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: loyalfan on July 20, 2012, 02:16:32 PM
and i see the word "allegedly" used by tmz...............remember in the trial that word used ha ha ..............this is good xxx
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: rachel1018 on July 20, 2012, 02:46:10 PM
very strange, allegedly......its probably not true!!!
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 20, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
@MJonMind - It was tweeted last night by I believe it was Jermaine - that 3 of the brothers had taken mother on a promised vacation, if I am not mistaken she was in Tuscon, Arizona.  Then the tweet about Paris came.  It was a tweet-palooza last night.  Tweets from everywhere.  An out and out battleground.  However when I looked for the tweet from Jermaine today, it was apparently deleted.  I wish I knew how to screen shoot.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: marumjj on July 20, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
Spokesman Jim Bates estate, stated in reply to the letter from the Jackson

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Bates also dismissed any claims that the will, which was validated in probate court in the months after Jackson's death on June 25, 2009, was somehow a fake.

"Any doubts about the validity of Michael's will and his selection of executors were thoroughly and completely debunked two years ago when a challenge was rejected by the Los Angeles County Superior Court, the California Court of Appeals and, finally, the California Supreme Court," Bates said in his statement.

"Under the supervision of Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff, co-executors John Branca and John McClain have diligently carried out their fiduciary duties as well as their obligation to Michael to make sure that his estate benefits the only family members he named in his will -- his mother and his three children."
Source ABC News

I thought the claim was now beginning, but it seems they already had done a few months after the 09/06/25


Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: finfin on July 20, 2012, 07:17:35 PM
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@MJonMind - It was tweeted last night by I believe it was Jermaine - that 3 of the brothers had taken mother on a promised vacation, if I am not mistaken she was in Tuscon, Arizona.  Then the tweet about Paris came.  It was a tweet-palooza last night.  Tweets from everywhere.  An out and out battleground.  However when I looked for the tweet from Jermaine today, it was apparently deleted.  I wish I knew how to screen shoot.

See if this works @hesouttamylife I managed to do screen shots  after reading this: Capture a Screen Shot of your Desktop or the Active Window in Windows (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm)
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: suspicious mind on July 20, 2012, 08:10:24 PM
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@MJonMind - It was tweeted last night by I believe it was Jermaine - that 3 of the brothers had taken mother on a promised vacation, if I am not mistaken she was in Tuscon, Arizona.  Then the tweet about Paris came.  It was a tweet-palooza last night.  Tweets from everywhere.  An out and out battleground.  However when I looked for the tweet from Jermaine today, it was apparently deleted.  I wish I knew how to screen shoot.

are they not still on tour, or are they on a break? :-[ :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: bec on July 21, 2012, 12:45:09 AM
MJonmind:

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If we trust Front and TS, then we have to trust his family. Period.

Agreed and adding: and out of respect and common courtesy for MJ we need to bite our tongues because none of how they relate to each other is even a tiny bit of our business.

Not to mention, I can't believe anyone here would believe there is anything to this nonsense besides showmanship and live theater. Newsflash: IT'S NOT REAL.
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: finfin on July 21, 2012, 04:49:09 AM
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MJonmind:

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If we trust Front and TS, then we have to trust his family. Period.

Agreed and adding: and out of respect and common courtesy for MJ we need to bite our tongues because none of how they relate to each other is even a tiny bit of our business.

Not to mention, I can't believe anyone here would believe there is anything to this nonsense besides showmanship and live theater. Newsflash: IT'S NOT REAL.


I entirely agree with both of you - it is surreal.  I do actually feel for the non believers because I think some would find this quite distressing. I wonder if any of the media  are waking up yet? probably not  :icon_rolleyes:

A relevant clip from Larry King

                                        Jermaine Interview with CNN's Larry King, August 2009, Pt2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbpY2XiNaJQ)

                                         [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbpY2XiNaJQ [/youtube]
Title: Re: RANDY, JERMAINE JACKSON Plot to Get MJ's $$$ ... Allegedly
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 21, 2012, 05:07:12 AM
re : none of our business. agree!!!
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