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Title: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: MaryK on July 18, 2012, 05:37:53 PM
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Michael Jackson's only daughter is going to war with one of her famous uncles ... claiming Randy Jackson is spreading dangerous lies about the family ... and she's calling him out in public.

It's all over a letter that supposedly "leaked" to the Internet this week ... in which Randy, along with Jermaine, Janet, Tito and Rebbie demand John Branca and John McClain resign from their positions as the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate, effective immediately.

In the sharply-pointed letter, the family claims Branca and McClain have "failed" in their duties ... taken advantage of the family ... and have stressed out Katherine Jackson so much, that she recently suffered a "mini-stroke."

Randy went to Twitter and verified the authenticity of the letter Tuesday night ... but the very next day, Paris called BS on her uncle.

In fact, the 14-year-old went to her own Twitter page ... and wrote, "i am going to clarify right now that what has been said about my grandmother is a rumor and nothing has happened , she is completely fine."

She added, "i'd like to know who made up the rumor… i will defend my beloved family member with all i have , even if it means from other family members.”

Minutes later, Paris sent a new message directed to Randy -- which said, "@randyjackson8 hello dear FAMILY member i don't appreciate you telling everyone things that aren't true thank you very much."

When one of her followers suggested Paris should have respect for Randy ... she replied, "Maybe he should have respect for his mother."

Paris has since deleted the tweets.

Paris Jackson -- My Uncle Randy Is a BIG, FAT LIAR | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/18/paris-jackson-randy-jackson-liar-katherine-jackson-michael-jackson-estate/)
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 18, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
I think this family issue is gone too far :icon_e_geek:

I hope this is part of the hoax  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: LUNA on July 18, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
what should we understand,dear tmz?  :Pulling_hair:

*LUNA*
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: blankie on July 18, 2012, 06:00:27 PM
This is strange... :confused: none of the Mike 's family has never before issued such strong statements......something is moving  :suspect:  :confused:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Andrea on July 18, 2012, 06:16:21 PM
I knew TMZ would report on this...
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: SimPattyK on July 18, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
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Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 18, 2012, 06:25:35 PM
How did they see those tweets if they've been deleted? We're being watched.  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Ro Baker . s Man on July 18, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
: THIS is S0 rehearsed ((IM0)) . . .
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: suspicious mind on July 18, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
why just randy? were there not three other names on that page? :suspect:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 18, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
Let's not be hasty here. Things may be different to how they appear. MJ loves this brothers and has whatever is going on under control.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: paula-c on July 18, 2012, 06:38:46 PM
I insist, it is normal that the family is discussing for twitter :icon_question:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Ro Baker . s Man on July 18, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
I Mean : Look ((closely)) at Paris's tweets . . . they're S0 ' PERFECT ' / It's like ' SHAKESPEARE '  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 18, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
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Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 18, 2012, 06:53:16 PM
Exactly! Part of the show / circus!
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Adi on July 18, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
I think Randy is playing his "role" in this hoax of the angry younger sibling with a chip on his shoulder.

Interesting things seem to be moving again ...just when TS posted another sign too......hmmmm

Unfortunately this will be giving fodder to the fans who bash the Jackson family.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: suspicious mind on July 18, 2012, 09:19:08 PM

i suppose this probably should go somewhere else but i don't know.  it is just that having janet in on this thing seems strange. think it could have some connection to this about paris?


Janet Jackson Dispute: Singer Reportedly 'Furious' Over Niece Paris Acting In Upcoming Film (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/janet-jackson-dispute-paris-jackson-acting_n_1684030.html)
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Shamone Jackson on July 18, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
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How did they see those tweets if they've been deleted? We're being watched.  :icon_cool:

We may be watched by TMZ but not necessarily on this topic.  Wasn't it TMZ that made a mention that it was Paris' official twitter account?  If so, I'm sure they always watch her tweets.  They also seem to watch Randy's tweets closely too. 
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: suspicious mind on July 18, 2012, 09:33:52 PM
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How did they see those tweets if they've been deleted? We're being watched.  :icon_cool:

We may be watched by TMZ but not necessarily on this topic.  Wasn't it TMZ that made a mention that it was Paris' official twitter account?  If so, I'm sure they always watch her tweets.  They also seem to watch Randy's tweets closely too.
is this the only way be which we judge that it is her account?
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 18, 2012, 10:09:22 PM
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How did they see those tweets if they've been deleted? We're being watched.  :icon_cool:

We may be watched by TMZ but not necessarily on this topic.  Wasn't it TMZ that made a mention that it was Paris' official twitter account?  If so, I'm sure they always watch her tweets.  They also seem to watch Randy's tweets closely too.
is this the only way be which we judge that it is her account?

TMZ posted the article 4 hours ago. We discovered the tweets about 7 hours ago when they were first tweeted... if TMZ follows her twitter, why did they wait 3 hours to make an article about it? I'm not sure when Paris deleted them, but it seems like she deleted them before TMZ made the article as it says "Paris has since deleted these tweets" So thats why i think TMZ saw the tweets on our forum.

& suspicious mind, Twitter has verified that it's Paris' twitter.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: mindseye on July 18, 2012, 10:12:24 PM
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How did they see those tweets if they've been deleted? We're being watched.  :icon_cool:

We may be watched by TMZ but not necessarily on this topic.  Wasn't it TMZ that made a mention that it was Paris' official twitter account?  If so, I'm sure they always watch her tweets.  They also seem to watch Randy's tweets closely too.
is this the only way be which we judge that it is her account?

TMZ posted the article 4 hours ago. We discovered the tweets about 7 hours ago when they were first tweeted... if TMZ follows her twitter, why did they wait 3 hours to make an article about it? I'm not sure when Paris deleted them, but it seems like she deleted them before TMZ made the article as it says "Paris has since deleted these tweets" So thats why i think TMZ saw the tweets on our forum.

& suspicious mind, Twitter has verified that it's Paris' twitter.

Just enough time for tmz and everyone to read them.  And she's just tweeted an apology to Randy.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Grace on July 18, 2012, 10:47:03 PM
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In philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) and logic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic), the liar paradox or liar's paradox (pseudomenon in Ancient Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek)), is the statement "this sentence is false." Trying to assign to this statement a classical binary truth value (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_value) leads to a contradiction (see paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox)).
If "this sentence is false" is true, then the sentence is false, which would in turn mean that it is actually true, but this would mean that it is false, and so on ad infinitum.
Similarly, if "this sentence is false" is false, then the sentence is true, which would in turn mean that it is actually false, but this would mean that it is true, and so on ad infinitum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox)


The undeceiving deceptionalist vs. the unperceiving perceptionalist.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Grace on July 18, 2012, 11:02:27 PM
Fam disintegration (mini) showing fam disintegration (big).
Mirror.
Branca did not do his job - Murray did not do his job.
Lady Kath was hurt - MJ was hurt.
Paris calling fam out in public - many calling fam out in public.
Paris telling nothing happened - ? telling nothing happened.
Randy apologizing - ? will anybody else apologize?
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Yambo3003 on July 19, 2012, 12:15:13 AM
crazy crazy stuff!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 19, 2012, 01:04:00 AM
Very interesting take Grace. I am going to think about these last two..
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: curls on July 19, 2012, 01:26:27 AM
Quite honestly, all I can do is sit back and watch in amazement as things are unfolding this week! Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Josiec84 on July 19, 2012, 01:31:16 AM
Feels like something amazing is going to happen. Is this part of the "BAM" that Michael Jackson's been talking about on "This is It"???
It all looks too dramatic  :confused:  :confused: :icon_eek:

Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 19, 2012, 04:07:33 AM
Jermaine Jackson ‏@jermjackson5
As Paris tonight clarified, she earlier rushed to end Twitter talk that Mother is ill TODAY, but Paris didn't expose any "lie" as @TMZ claim

Twitter / jermjackson5: As Paris tonight clarified ... (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5/status/225878791807959040)
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 19, 2012, 04:44:44 AM
Jermaine Jackson‏@jermjackson5

Sadly, TMZ reflects a rush to judgment on Twitter that grasps at face-value information...and truth and context suffer

Jermaine Jackson‏@jermjackson5

On a positive note, Phoenix and its people were amazing tonight! Bless you all for being wonderful. G'night everyone.

The truth is that Mother DID suffer a mini-stroke some months ago. She is fine now, but the timeline doesn't alter the fact it happened

Jermaine Jackson‏@jermjackson5

As Paris tonight clarified, she earlier rushed to end Twitter talk that Mother is ill TODAY, but Paris didn't expose any "lie" as @TMZ claim

Jermaine Jackson‏@jermjackson5

This is a serious matter that has been weighed carefully, including taking into account Michael's thoughts and feelings when he was alive

Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw...

Jermaine Jackson (jermjackson5) on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)

Yes Jermaine....we have been waiting patiently for three years for that last piece of the puzzle, just as our logo suggests..!!!!!
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Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: stefy66 on July 19, 2012, 05:11:45 AM
Yesterday I was like  :affraid: today I am  :thjajaja121:

I guess the Tmz guys do not need to read any tweet, they just wait for someone to "snap his fingers" to post what they have to.

The Family just post what they want us to read, otherwise they would use the phone to fix their issues if they were real...(so, no Jermaine, you can't complain about TMZ)
Do you know any other family fighting through twitter? LOLLLL

the greatest show on earth is going on, let's see what is next!
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: becca26 on July 19, 2012, 06:30:17 AM
Ok so I went to Neverland monday night and Tuesday day with a friend and Taaj Malik called them on the phone and said she just got an email from an un named person saying that Katherine had a heart attack, then the person said have you called Randy of La Toya to conferm?? She said yes and there is no answer. They hung up and my friend said that they believe Taaj got that emal from Randy, she has a sexual relationship with him this person says, the think Taaj leaked it for Randy... Just passing on what I heard unfold at the time..oh also off topic I went to Carolwood about an hour and a half ago 3:00am Los Angeles time and sat there for a bit then decided to leave as I pulled out about to get onto Sunset from Carolwood Ambulance 71 flew passed me so I made the left onto sunset and followed it, you could not see threw the back of those windows by the way, so then it made a u tuurn and went back toward carolwood, i pulled up behind it , it was sitting at carolwood by MJs house I was trying to take a pic of it then it pulled away, I was looking at the phone then looked up and it was gone, just a bit odd. :)
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 19, 2012, 07:43:40 AM
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Ok so I went to Neverland monday night and Tuesday day with a friend and Taaj Malik called them on the phone and said she just got an email from an un named person saying that Katherine had a heart attack, then the person said have you called Randy of La Toya to conferm?? She said yes and there is no answer. They hung up and my friend said that they believe Taaj got that emal from Randy, she has a sexual relationship with him this person says, the think Taaj leaked it for Randy... Just passing on what I heard unfold at the time..oh also off topic I went to Carolwood about an hour and a half ago 3:00am Los Angeles time and sat there for a bit then decided to leave as I pulled out about to get onto Sunset from Carolwood Ambulance 71 flew passed me so I made the left onto sunset and followed it, you could not see threw the back of those windows by the way, so then it made a u tuurn and went back toward carolwood, i pulled up behind it , it was sitting at carolwood by MJs house I was trying to take a pic of it then it pulled away, I was looking at the phone then looked up and it was gone, just a bit odd. :)

Thanks for that information Becca.......From what I know, Taaj Malik is a fraudster..She has ripped many people off, and can't be trusted.  Yes, she is known to some of the Jacksons, but to this day, I have not heard a good thing about her...She was always attacked on facebook and twitter...

There's more information about it here..............Taaj M. Exposed - The TRUTH About Taaj Malik! (http://taajm-exposed.weebly.com/)

So an ambulance drove past Carolwood?  Hmmm....That is odd.  At least you now realise how hard it would be to take a photo through those dark tinted windows....God bless
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: MaryK on July 19, 2012, 08:01:24 AM
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Ok so I went to Neverland monday night and Tuesday day with a friend and Taaj Malik called them on the phone and said she just got an email from an un named person saying that Katherine had a heart attack, then the person said have you called Randy of La Toya to conferm?? She said yes and there is no answer. They hung up and my friend said that they believe Taaj got that emal from Randy, she has a sexual relationship with him this person says, the think Taaj leaked it for Randy... Just passing on what I heard unfold at the time..oh also off topic I went to Carolwood about an hour and a half ago 3:00am Los Angeles time and sat there for a bit then decided to leave as I pulled out about to get onto Sunset from Carolwood Ambulance 71 flew passed me so I made the left onto sunset and followed it, you could not see threw the back of those windows by the way, so then it made a u tuurn and went back toward carolwood, i pulled up behind it , it was sitting at carolwood by MJs house I was trying to take a pic of it then it pulled away, I was looking at the phone then looked up and it was gone, just a bit odd. :)

Ambulance 71 at Carolwood?
Are they shooting a new chapter perhaps?   :icon_e_wink:
Oh my.... :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Loveunited on July 19, 2012, 08:05:25 AM
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Ok so I went to Neverland monday night and Tuesday day with a friend and Taaj Malik called them on the phone and said she just got an email from an un named person saying that Katherine had a heart attack, then the person said have you called Randy of La Toya to conferm?? She said yes and there is no answer. They hung up and my friend said that they believe Taaj got that emal from Randy, she has a sexual relationship with him this person says, the think Taaj leaked it for Randy... Just passing on what I heard unfold at the time..oh also off topic I went to Carolwood about an hour and a half ago 3:00am Los Angeles time and sat there for a bit then decided to leave as I pulled out about to get onto Sunset from Carolwood Ambulance 71 flew passed me so I made the left onto sunset and followed it, you could not see threw the back of those windows by the way, so then it made a u tuurn and went back toward carolwood, i pulled up behind it , it was sitting at carolwood by MJs house I was trying to take a pic of it then it pulled away, I was looking at the phone then looked up and it was gone, just a bit odd. :)

Ambulance 71 at Carolwood?
Are they shooting a new chapter perhaps?   :icon_e_wink:
Oh my.... :icon_lol:



Spike? Recon?   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: GINAFELICIA on July 19, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
I don't know if he is a liar, but he is a little fat .... :icon_mrgreen:

Yeah I know, bad joke...but what do people expect after 3 years  :Pulling_hair: ??!!??
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: mindseye on July 19, 2012, 08:57:42 AM
This stood out for me as well:

Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw...

Jermaine Jackson (jermjackson5) on Twitter


There is always this mystery of someone else involved, or some information ppl don't have yet. The little bit of drama brings attention to the matter once again. This is how Michael works... imo family sticks together, and they'll use the media.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: bec on July 19, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
Love the use of "jigsaw" and we appreciate the shout out, Jermaine.

"Much is yet to emerge..." wiser words have never been spoken. Boy I do like that Jermaine. He is doing a phenomenal job in this hoax.
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 19, 2012, 09:57:27 AM
re: jigsaw. he may as well have said hoax!! nice one

love you jermie!  :bearhug:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: wishingstar on July 19, 2012, 11:20:54 AM
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This stood out for me as well:

Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw...

Jermaine Jackson (jermjackson5) on Twitter


There is always this mystery of someone else involved, or some information ppl don't have yet. The little bit of drama brings attention to the matter once again. This is how Michael works... imo family sticks together, and they'll use the media.

Jigsaw:  Jigsaw (1949) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041523/)

Jigsaw is also the main character of the Saw movies:  Jigsaw - Horror Film Wiki (http://horror-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Jigsaw)

Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: rabit457 on July 19, 2012, 01:45:30 PM
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Michael Jackson's only daughter is going to war with one of her famous uncles ... claiming Randy Jackson is spreading dangerous lies about the family ... and she's calling him out in public.

It's all over a letter that supposedly "leaked" to the Internet this week ... in which Randy, along with Jermaine, Janet, Tito and Rebbie demand John Branca and John McClain resign from their positions as the executors of the Michael Jackson Estate, effective immediately.

In the sharply-pointed letter, the family claims Branca and McClain have "failed" in their duties ... taken advantage of the family ... and have stressed out Katherine Jackson so much, that she recently suffered a "mini-stroke."

Randy went to Twitter and verified the authenticity of the letter Tuesday night ... but the very next day, Paris called BS on her uncle.

In fact, the 14-year-old went to her own Twitter page ... and wrote, "i am going to clarify right now that what has been said about my grandmother is a rumor and nothing has happened , she is completely fine."

She added, "i'd like to know who made up the rumor… i will defend my beloved family member with all i have , even if it means from other family members.”

Minutes later, Paris sent a new message directed to Randy -- which said, "@randyjackson8 hello dear FAMILY member i don't appreciate you telling everyone things that aren't true thank you very much."

When one of her followers suggested Paris should have respect for Randy ... she replied, "Maybe he should have respect for his mother."

Paris has since deleted the tweets.

Paris Jackson -- My Uncle Randy Is a BIG, FAT LIAR | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/18/paris-jackson-randy-jackson-liar-katherine-jackson-michael-jackson-estate/)



Actually She didn't deleted some them I follow her on twitter (:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: blankie on July 19, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
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Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 19, 2012, 04:51:45 PM
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 :multiplespotting: GREAT MOMENT !!!  :moonwalk_:

 :thjajaja121: You are so wrong for that, but it’s so hilarious and befitting the situation  :thjajaja121: A bunch of clowns and buffoons  :thjajaja121:  Damn
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 20, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
Well it made the news, and this report actually makes sense.........FAKE WILL  is the reason the family are contesting...good for the hoax...
BREAKING NEWS! HLN TV: Letter from MJ family to John Branca and John McClain - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoG6yaAu3uE&feature=youtu.be)
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Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 20, 2012, 01:19:54 PM
It seems that media is beginning to wonder things and I like it!! :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: Paris Jackson My Uncle Randy's a Big, Fat LIAR
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 21, 2012, 05:17:12 AM
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