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Title: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Sweetangel on June 25, 2012, 03:35:21 AM
Hello everyone,

what to the Devil is going on here?

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7246/murrayl.jpg)

It's the Conrad Murray video you were never meant to see -- a secret, emotional recording made days after Michael Jackson died ... in which Murray lies through his teeth about his relationship with the singer, blasts the public for blaming him for MJ's death, and even says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions.

The video -- which was never released -- was shot the very same day Murray recorded the infamous "Do not worry" clip he released in August 2009 ... his first address to the public after investigators named him as a suspect.

In this clip, Murray appears much more emotional -- with tears in his eyes, ranging from sadness to anger -- saying, "I can find no words satisfactory to summarize my affection for Michael."

He then proceeds to tell a bald-faced lie -- saying, "Despite our relationships and conversations, I am now made aware through recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications."

It later came out during his manslaughter trial ... Murray was intimately familiar with MJ's drug addictions -- and claimed to use drugs as a means to ween Michael off Propofol.

Later in the video, Murray gets aggressive -- saying, "No man, no woman, with the exception of innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons."

He continues, "Therefore, next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgment or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you're not 100% sure that when scrutinized no faults can be found, then you may have earned that right to criticize."

Sources close to Murray tell TMZ, Conny's lawyers eventually decided to bury the video because they felt it could only hurt him.

You gotta hear Murray's tone and anger in the video.

FYI -- today marks the 3-year anniversary of Michael Jackson's death.

Dr. Conrad Murray -- How DARE You Judge Me | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/25/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-interview-video/)

Much Peace and Love to everyone.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 25, 2012, 03:50:43 AM
Thanks @sweetangel for posting this!

I´ve spiced it up a little with a pic and the text  :icon_e_wink:

I hope that you don´t mind.

 :bearhug:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Sweetangel on June 25, 2012, 04:03:27 AM
Thank you Mary K

I don't know how to do. I did use the Hyperlink function and hoped it would shou up right. Or can I use the
copy and paste function? Weird Video. Is it only me or looks Dr Murray skinnier as usally.

Much Peace and Love to everyone.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 25, 2012, 04:08:05 AM
You´re welcome  :)

Basically you need to copy and paste the text and save the pic and include it.

Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MFFreedom on June 25, 2012, 04:09:24 AM
The actor up for two different performances:

"CM, we'll now do a shot of you being emotional and then we'll do another one thanking your supporters, ok?"
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 25, 2012, 04:14:40 AM
The video we were never meant to see  :icon_cry:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Sweetangel on June 25, 2012, 04:17:30 AM
LOL.
I am always wondering how they get their Hands on this Kind of Stuff.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: ForstAMoon on June 25, 2012, 04:20:04 AM
Quote
Sources close to Murray tell TMZ, Conny's lawyers eventually decided to bury the video because they felt it could only hurt him.

yes, sure, and later on, they agreed to film the documentary during a trial....   :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 25, 2012, 04:21:50 AM
ROFLOL!!! OMG I peed myself, his teeth almost fell out. This skeleton was in the closet for almost 3 years and coincidentally TMZ has it on the 3rd anniversary?

I need to rewatch, I laughed too hard. :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: jam4truth on June 25, 2012, 04:27:14 AM
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The actor up for two different performances:

"CM, we'll now do a shot of you being emotional and then we'll do another one thanking your supporters, ok?"

More and more people will question things. So scripted :-) It's a Thriller.  :icon_rr:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 25, 2012, 04:28:42 AM
What I hear when I listen to this is a big fat MJ speech and message.

Don´t trust the media, don´t believe everything you read, look at things unprejudicedly.

Look at MJ in a different way.

Good Doc Murray is telling "da troot" here  :icon_e_wink:

Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 25, 2012, 04:39:41 AM
He mows MJ's lawns, roflmfao. This is killing me. I'd like some good news!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 25, 2012, 04:47:15 AM
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What I hear when I listen to this is a big fat MJ speech and message.

Don´t trust the media, don´t believe everything you read, look at things unprejudicedly.

Look at MJ in a different way.

Good Doc Murray is telling "da troot" here  :icon_e_wink:

And he also talks about looking in the mirror....so MJ'ish.  WHY now??  If you look even more closely this time, it looks like his head is too big for his shoulders...really photoshopped on,

just doesn't seem right.   This is the best news I've had today..............

TWO Conrad Murrays.........just as we thought......Maybe he has a twin.
  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 25, 2012, 04:48:18 AM


L.O.V.E it - Just Gold!!!

(http://www.photoshopessentials.com/images/type/effects/gold/final-result.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 25, 2012, 04:51:20 AM
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What I hear when I listen to this is a big fat MJ speech and message.

Don´t trust the media, don´t believe everything you read, look at things unprejudicedly.

Look at MJ in a different way.

Good Doc Murray is telling "da troot" here  :icon_e_wink:

And he also talks about looking in the mirror....so MJ'ish.  WHY now??  If you look even more closely this time, it looks like his head is too big for his shoulders...really photoshopped on,

just doesn't seem right.   This is the best news I've had today..............

TWO Conrad Murrays.........just as we thought......Maybe he has a twin.
  :icon_e_wink:

Not a photoshop, that's the angle.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: SimPattyK on June 25, 2012, 04:55:16 AM
This is what I have to say: MURRAY = MICHAEL. Period!




Michael, thank you for showing up for the 3rd Hoax Anniversary!!
Thank you for the good laughter !!  :thjajaja121:

TMZ:"Murray lies through his teeth about his relationship with the singer"
Souza said it well: at one point I thought his fake-teeth would fall!  :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 25, 2012, 04:58:52 AM
meanwhile, the comments underneath that article enrage me to a degree i have never felt.

come on, MJ please bam and vindicate your name once and for all.


i love you TMZ for your entertaining role in the hoax as well as for rolling out whatever MJ is feedng you, but please (if you are reading) take responsiblilty and remove vulgarity, deformation and slander (in the form of reader comments) from your site.


YOU KNOW THE TRUTH - You should do your part...



saddens and kills me to the core...  (http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/7/6/0/7/2/a3863053-114-male19-male-crying-tears-smiley-emoticon-000061-large.gif?d=1300008028)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 25, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
Also pay attention to the commercials before the vid starts.

Very interesting.

Contains things like (I paraphrase here)

"What if he comes back and finishes what he started"

"Alive"

This kind of things....
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: curls on June 25, 2012, 06:18:55 AM
Aarrgghh - I can't get the video to load, just get the roundy roundy thing endlessly! I'll try again later.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 25, 2012, 06:59:24 AM
Transcript:

Todays ?relief? is to break my silence.. Yet, let it be known, that I continue to mourn the loss of my dear friend Michael Jackson.
Additionally, I could find no words satisfactorily to summarize my affection for Michael.  For you to have known Michael as closely as I did, you too may have problems
adequately describing the relationship.  Michael had lots of acquaintances, but he and I knew that our relationship was purely one of a true friendship.  Over the years of knowing
Michael, I became not only a friend and physician, but a sound and board for his personal problems and emotional PAINS.. Despite our relationship and conversations, I am now made aware through
recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications.  None the less, I beLIEve this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character
in the media.  We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society.  WE must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons.
Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that the ...?word? scrutinize, no fault could be found
then you may have earned that right to criticize.  I pray that you celebrate his life in a positive light, for all the good he has done while on earth, so that his memory will be more CELESTIAL ....
For the media and court of public opinion, let us not perish in the flood of negative reporting...  Maybe some good news may be more rejuvenating than you think..

Why not give good news a try, and lighten up on Michael for a change....Thankyou
 
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Adi on June 25, 2012, 07:00:12 AM
WOW!!!

Cool...I love it......delivered bang on for the 3rd anniversary of Michael's "death". As MaryK said a big fat message from Michael.

I've only watched it once so far - gotta go back and scrutinise further  :icon_cool:

I just knew MJ would come through today with something.

Wonder if/when this will be picked up by other media outlets...........
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: shamz on June 25, 2012, 07:05:28 AM
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The actor up for two different performances:

"CM, we'll now do a shot of you being emotional and then we'll do another one thanking your supporters, ok?"

 :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
nearly wet myself laughing!!!!

But ive gotta admit he's reading his speech off from a lil bit of paper or something, i can see his eyes move!!! plus the fact that its been released on the 3rd anniversary since Michael's "death"???  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 25, 2012, 07:24:22 AM
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WOW!!!

Cool...I love it......delivered bang on for the 3rd anniversary of Michael's "death". As MaryK said a big fat message from Michael.

I've only watched it once so far - gotta go back and scrutinise further  :icon_cool:

I just knew MJ would come through today with something.

Wonder if/when this will be picked up by other media outlets...........

Transcript:

Todays ?relief? is to break my silence.. Yet, let it be known, that I continue to mourn the loss of my dear friend Michael Jackson.
Additionally, I could find no words satisfactorily to summarize my affection for Michael.  For you to have known Michael as closely as I did, you too may have problems
adequately describing the relationship.  Michael had lots of acquaintances, but he and I knew that our relationship was purely one of a true friendship.  Over the years of knowing
Michael, I became not only a friend and physician, but a sound and board for his personal problems and emotional PAINS.. Despite our relationship and conversations, I am now made aware through
recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications.  None the less, I beLIEve this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character
in the media.  We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society.  WE must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons.
Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that the ...?word? scrutinize, no fault could be found
then you may have earned that right to criticize.  I pray that you celebrate his life in a positive light, for all the good he has done while on earth, so that his memory will be more CELESTIAL ....
For the media and court of public opinion, let us not perish in the flood of negative reporting...  Maybe some good news may be more rejuvenating than you think..

Why not give good news a try, and lighten up on Michael for a change....Thankyou   
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 25, 2012, 07:43:40 AM
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Transcript:

Todays ?relief? is to break my silence.. Yet, let it be known, that I continue to mourn the loss of my dear friend Michael Jackson.
Additionally, I could find no words satisfactorily to summarize my affection for Michael.  For you to have known Michael as closely as I did, you too may have problems
adequately describing the relationship.  Michael had lots of acquaintances, but he and I knew that our relationship was purely one of a true friendship.  Over the years of knowing
Michael, I became not only a friend and physician, but a sound and board for his personal problems and emotional PAINS.. Despite our relationship and conversations, I am now made aware through
recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications.  None the less, I beLIEve this is not the time to continue demeaning nor assassinating his character
in the media.  We must remember Michael for the good he has done for society.  WE must also be conscious that no man nor women, with the exception of the innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons.
Therefore, the next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgement, or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you are not 100% sure that the ...?word? scrutinize, no fault could be found
then you may have earned that right to criticize.  I pray that you celebrate his life in a positive light, for all the good he has done while on earth, so that his memory will be more CELESTIAL ....
For the media and court of public opinion, let us not perish in the flood of negative reporting...  Maybe some good news may be more rejuvenating than you think..

Why not give good news a try, and lighten up on Michael for a change....Thankyou



thanx 4 this transcription! it's very important 4 me.... but,y r we listening now 2 this speech? we "know" c. m. is in jail and so,i think,this speech has been released days/months(/years?) ago!  :icon_lol:
y can't we never watch these fantastic tmz's videos on tv? is it possible that only we (believers) r asking questions like these?
could c. m. be our m. j. in disguise?
  :Pulling_hair:

*LUNA*





Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: YoungMack on June 25, 2012, 07:52:56 AM
Wow.... Did I call this or what?????? I said we would get a biiig clue from TMZ and ill be damned at 1am they posted this....... I rewatched the other video by CM like this qnd discovered something I jevernoticed before. YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I) that is thelink to it. Watch at about 38 or 39 seconds....... You can literally see the video kind of skip or twitch which PROVES to me that some kind of technology was used to shoot that and in my opinion itsCG as I posted in my topic like a month ago. Check it out.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 25, 2012, 08:02:09 AM
TMZ said he filmed this the same day he recordered the original message....

Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I[/youtube]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/untitlzzz.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 25, 2012, 08:03:29 AM
I didn't see the teeth almost falling :icon_e_confused:.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: chappie on June 25, 2012, 08:04:12 AM
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ROFLOL!!! OMG I peed myself, his teeth almost fell out. This skeleton was in the closet for almost 3 years and coincidentally TMZ has it on the 3rd anniversary?

I need to rewatch, I laughed too hard. :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:

Time to change your undies Killer....... :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 25, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
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Wow.... Did I call this or what?????? I said we would get a biiig clue from TMZ and ill be damned at 1am they posted this


i think we were all expecting and waiting for something from tmz / michael today


 :woohoo2:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 25, 2012, 08:09:44 AM
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Wow.... Did I call this or what?????? I said we would get a biiig clue from TMZ and ill be damned at 1am they posted this....... I rewatched the other video by CM like this qnd discovered something I jevernoticed before. YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I) that is thelink to it. Watch at about 38 or 39 seconds....... You can literally see the video kind of skip or twitch which PROVES to me that some kind of technology was used to shoot that and in my opinion itsCG as I posted in my topic like a month ago. Check it out.



i don't know y,but i'm not able 2 watch ur video.... i was watching at this:

Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I)

(i can't understand if it's the same 1 u've uploaded in ur post),i'd like 2 understand if i/we notice something different/changed in c. m.'s voice,looking,accent and so on.... this "doctor" makes me too curious! i think there's something weird behind his face.... r u talking about this video,mack? if i close my eyes,i can hear mikael speaking!


*LUNA*
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 25, 2012, 08:15:04 AM
ok... u've posted ur last messages while i was writing mine! we r talking about the same video (the 1 that was released in 2009):yes,we c the same clothes! the 2 videos have been recorded at the same time.... (like trial,like the last mj's press conference in london,like memorial,like burial..... am i 4getting anything more?)

*LUNA*
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: chappie on June 25, 2012, 08:23:54 AM
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ok... u've posted ur last messages while i was writing mine! we r talking about the same video (the 1 that was released in 2009):yes,we c the same clothes! the 2 videos have been recorded at the same time.... (like trial,like the last mj's press conference in london,like memorial,like burial..... am i 4getting anything more?)

*LUNA*


Nope different tie......
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Adi on June 25, 2012, 08:30:34 AM
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ROFLOL!!! OMG I peed myself, his teeth almost fell out. This skeleton was in the closet for almost 3 years and coincidentally TMZ has it on the 3rd anniversary?

I need to rewatch, I laughed too hard. :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:

 :LolLolLolLol:   
Quote
.....in which Murray lies through his teeth about his relationship with the singer
maybe TMZ were pointing that out Souza  :icon_lol:

So I wonder HOW exactly TMZ managed to get this pearler of a vid? Usually they say something like "we have obtained" or "sources tell us", but this time they have said nada.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: paula-c on June 25, 2012, 09:01:04 AM
Sure that the video is no more recent :icon_question: :icon_geek: 8)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: YoungMack on June 25, 2012, 09:03:56 AM
Luna.... yeah its the same one...... check out the thanking the supporters video at like
37 or 38 seconds i didnt notice before but the video kind if twitches or skips kind of....
Which to me is aCLEAR indication that some sort of technology was used and im thinking it
IsCG whichwould allow MJ to BE conrad murray in these videos. And yeah very weird it was supposed to be the same day but itsdiffrrent ties and background which is weird to me... also look atthe time
thenewvideo was posted... 1am this morning.... so its almost like someonewas waiting for the clock to turn onto the 25th.......
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: suspicious mind on June 25, 2012, 09:05:19 AM
makes me think of the 93 grammy speech.
i don't read everything that is written about me in the press. i wasn't aware that i am a drug addict.  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 25, 2012, 09:16:38 AM
Skeletons...
Michael Jackson's skeleton dance from "Ghosts" (1997) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCAhfzCFtA)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCAhfzCFtA[/youtube]
Before you judge me, try hard to love me..

Michael Jackson Before You Judge ME ... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897UbI1CijA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897UbI1CijA

Man in the Mirror..
Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror (Official Video) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEQAie8ABLE&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEQAie8ABLE&feature=related[/youtube]

And the list goes on........Will you be there..all my trials and tribulations, and PAINs...Tabloid Junkie etc...

I think Murray has just copied and pasted lyrics from Michaels songs to write this transcript............
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: titania on June 25, 2012, 09:28:46 AM
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Skeletons...
Michael Jackson's skeleton dance from "Ghosts" (1997) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCAhfzCFtA)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onCAhfzCFtA[/youtube]
Before you judge me, try hard to love me..

Michael Jackson Before You Judge ME ... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897UbI1CijA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=897UbI1CijA

Man in the Mirror..
Michael Jackson - Man In The Mirror (Official Video) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEQAie8ABLE&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEQAie8ABLE&feature=related[/youtube]

And the list goes on........Will you be there..all my trials and tribulations, and PAINs...Tabloid Junkie etc...

I think Murray has just copied and pasted lyrics from Michaels songs to write this transcript............

Hahhaha! Yes, The Man In the Mirror is up to his trix again. Michael really is the teacher of all teachers! :thjajaja121:

BTW Wasn't CM washing his dirty laundry in public so to speak a few days back?

I love all these metaphors.... :th_bravo:

Titania
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 25, 2012, 10:04:04 AM
To me this speech sounds more like a statement in favor of MJ's image, to help clear his image.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: curls on June 25, 2012, 10:16:04 AM
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To me this speech sounds more like a statement in favor of MJ's image, to help clear his image.

I agree Gina, it doesn't sound to me like he's talking about the world judging him (CM) but MJ. 'Lighten up on Michael' he says at the end, not 'lighten up on me'.

TMZ's title and first paragraph is NOT what the speech is all about at all.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: mindseye on June 25, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Yes I agree, to clear his image -  Just a reminder of how ppl are so easily influenced, believing the tabloids, and how he was crucified. MJ is behind this, imo it was planned for this day.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: use_your_illusion on June 25, 2012, 10:31:58 AM
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To me this speech sounds more like a statement in favor of MJ's image, to help clear his image.

I agree Gina, it doesn't sound to me like he's talking about the world judging him (CM) but MJ. 'Lighten up on Michael' he says at the end, not 'lighten up on me'.

TMZ's title and first paragraph is NOT what the speech is all about at all.

I agree...Murray, you are one weird/funny character...and don't even get me started on Nicole;

"He's been doing a lot of reading ... he's able to transport himself to all these different places ... like Sweden or Paris or Afghanistan."

 :thjajaja121:

Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 25, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
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allow MJ to BE conrad murray

 :affraid:    :affraid:    :affraid:

and so,u think murray = mikael! it has been my idea 4 many months (and,maybe,sometimes,it is the same,now....),but,if u remember,there have been some pictures where we've "seen" murray (on the beach,walking in the city,during the trial)! how could it be possible? do u think that,everytime mj wanted us 2 c a picture of the doctor,he had 2 disguise himself as conrad? (oh,no! errata corrige:every picture,every video and shot have been recorded in 2009.... :icon_lol:) i think i'm off my nut....

*LUNA*
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: RK on June 25, 2012, 10:48:59 AM
(http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/731.png)

Help!! chest pains from too much laughter
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: brunob12 on June 25, 2012, 11:40:04 AM
Is it just me or the video was shot with a green screen? The scenario looks fake to me...
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on June 25, 2012, 11:47:14 AM
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TMZ said he filmed this the same day he recordered the original message....

Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I[/youtube]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/untitlzzz.jpg)
It could be the lighting, but his jacket looks like a different color to me. Also, the second tie has a lot more dots on it....weren't we supposed to pay attention to the ties and connect the dots?? Also the background is completely different, it's so obvious that this was either green screened or filmed at a different time....but I'm sure most people won't notice that  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Grace on June 25, 2012, 12:37:05 PM
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What I hear when I listen to this is a big fat MJ speech and message.

Don´t trust the media, don´t believe everything you read, look at things unprejudicedly.

Look at MJ in a different way.

Good Doc Murray is telling "da troot" here  :icon_e_wink:

 :th_bravo: Doc Murray! :abouttime:

I could listen to him all day long and always be reminded that his words are Michael's.

"Why not give good news a try?" - "Change the one in the mirror."

Name clearing still not over.
Arrrrgghhh... How long will it take, still...

Point is - haters and judges will never go away.
They are like resin: translucent, sticky and cannot be washed but only scrubbed off.

[Remark: Sirius is the brightest star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brightest_stars) in the night sky. Sirius A is about twice as massive as the Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun) and has an absolute visual magnitude (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_magnitude) of 1.42. It is 25 times more luminous than the Sun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius)
Yeah. This is it.]
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: suspicious mind on June 25, 2012, 01:39:31 PM
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Hello everyone,

what to the Devil is going on here?

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7246/murrayl.jpg)

It's the Conrad Murray video you were never meant to see -- a secret, emotional recording made days after Michael Jackson died ... in which Murray lies through his teeth about his relationship with the singer, blasts the public for blaming him for MJ's death, and even says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions.

The video -- which was never released -- was shot the very same day Murray recorded the infamous "Do not worry" clip he released in August 2009 ... his first address to the public after investigators named him as a suspect.

In this clip, Murray appears much more emotional -- with tears in his eyes, ranging from sadness to anger -- saying, "I can find no words satisfactory to summarize my affection for Michael."

He then proceeds to tell a bald-faced lie -- saying, "Despite our relationships and conversations, I am now made aware through recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications."

It later came out during his manslaughter trial ... Murray was intimately familiar with MJ's drug addictions -- and claimed to use drugs as a means to ween Michael off Propofol.

Later in the video, Murray gets aggressive -- saying, "No man, no woman, with the exception of innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons."

He continues, "Therefore, next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgment or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you're not 100% sure that when scrutinized no faults can be found, then you may have earned that right to criticize."

Sources close to Murray tell TMZ, Conny's lawyers eventually decided to bury the video because they felt it could only hurt him.

You gotta hear Murray's tone and anger in the video.

FYI -- today marks the 3-year anniversary of Michael Jackson's death.

Dr. Conrad Murray -- How DARE You Judge Me | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/25/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-interview-video/)

Much Peace and Love to everyone.

umm the actual truth of what the video says and is about is NOT what tmz presents it as.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: chappie on June 25, 2012, 01:41:48 PM
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TMZ said he filmed this the same day he recordered the original message....

Dr. Conrad Murray Thanks Supporters - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bjDWRJx9I[/youtube]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/untitlzzz.jpg)
It could be the lighting, but his jacket looks like a different color to me. Also, the second tie has a lot more dots on it....weren't we supposed to pay attention to the ties and connect the dots?? Also the background is completely different, it's so obvious that this was either green screened or filmed at a different time....but I'm sure most people won't notice that  :icon_rolleyes:

Both are green screened........
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: YoungMack on June 25, 2012, 07:57:03 PM
Luna... No I dont think physiclly is MJ as we know Murray or whatever his name is an actual person. But there is a technology called CG is what I think it is. It allows a person to put little electrodes all over thei face and then they control another face that is computer generated. I POsted the video on the forum of a dude with the electeodes controling a face. As for the guys who asked abiut the green screen... both videos in my opinion are greenscreened. I have worked with directors on sets and stuff and thats just my opinion. If you look at the ty supporters video at like 38 seconds pay cloooooose attention and. CM kind of jumps or twitches but its a technology glitch. You guyscheck itout and let me know what u think.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on June 25, 2012, 10:41:52 PM
 :icon_rr:

Quote
It's the Conrad Murray video you were never meant to see...

The video we were never "supposed/meant" to see. Kinda like the video we were never supposed/meant to see from MJ's videographer during Bashir's visit?  :suspect:

I liked the video I wasn't meant to see, great message Conny!  :th_bravo:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_mkYj5Tc0[/youtube]


Happy Anniversary MJ!  :smiley_abuv:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MJonmind on June 26, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
This is an awesome video! Thanks TMZ, Connie, and MJ!
Perfect for this special 3 year anniversary!
Something new for our microscopes, and dissecting minds!

Quote
says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions
Uh-huh, welcome to the club! It's not lying; it's a movie, it's art! And it's all for L.O.V.E.! But you know that!
And Murray, you're also a creation of MJ's imagination!
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: SimPattyK on June 26, 2012, 04:35:01 AM
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This is an awesome video! Thanks TMZ, Connie, and MJ!
Perfect for this special 3 year anniversary!
Something new for our microscopes, and dissecting minds!

Quote
says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions
Uh-huh, welcome to the club! It's not lying; it's a movie, it's art! And it's all for L.O.V.E.! But you know that!
And Murray, you're also a creation of MJ's imagination!
:) :)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: reveron1958 on June 26, 2012, 04:48:52 AM
Poo! I can't make the video work.  :over-react-smiley:

Can anyone help?
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: blankie on June 26, 2012, 05:54:46 AM
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This is an awesome video! Thanks TMZ, Connie, and MJ!
Perfect for this special 3 year anniversary!
Something new for our microscopes, and dissecting minds!

Quote
says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions
Uh-huh, welcome to the club! It's not lying; it's a movie, it's art! And it's all for L.O.V.E.! But you know that!
And Murray, you're also a creation of MJ's imagination!

 :moonwalk_:   Agree !!!   :icon_razz: :icon_razz: :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 26, 2012, 07:31:15 AM
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Poo! I can't make the video work.  :over-react-smiley:

Can anyone help?

r u talking about the cm's speech? try 2 watch it on yt: http://www.youtube.com/watch? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?)
i hope it will work!


*LUNA*
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: SimPattyK on June 26, 2012, 03:49:58 PM
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TMZ said he filmed this the same day he recordered the original message....

[....]
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/untitlzzz.jpg)



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLW2E2kOn6w&feature=g-all-u[/youtube]
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 01:38:32 AM
lol, meanwhile, i might mention that connies accent has always thrown me...

i know it sounds weird but i detect a hint of russian, or some eastern european, especially when he heavily pronounces the letter "L" in the word "Life"

obviously i also get a jamaican / tabago (or similar) vibe too.




in addition, i have always found it funny how michael jackson appears in wiki, death of michael jackson appears in wiki, trial of conrad murray appears in wiki, but as for CM himself.... no.. no he is not in wiki.... ah, wonder why?? LOL
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 27, 2012, 02:19:20 AM
Sirius Video in Houston Texas - HD camera rental, betacam, dvcam, video production, HD editing system, teleprompter, audio, lighting (http://www.siriusvid.com/)  This is the website about Sirius video and accessaries rental...and guess what I found...
Also, out of all the companies Conrad could have chosen, I think he chose "Sirius" for a reason....Just check this out:

Smooth Criminal :icon_e_wink: :icon_e_wink:

The Star Sirius - Secret Beginings - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDBIy5D1ZI&feature=related)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDBIy5D1ZI&feature=related[/youtube]
David Garrett "Smooth Criminal" on SiriusXM Pops - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2HXoO-0So)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2HXoO-0So[/youtube]

The Star Sirius - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0qt91rvorU)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0qt91rvorU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 02:31:57 AM
@ 2good - your storm trooper signature always makes me laugh. i keep forgetting to tell you. thanks for making me smile 
:bearhug:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MJonmind on June 27, 2012, 04:51:41 AM
Thanks for the interesting videos, 2good2btrue!
I also find your sig mesmerizing!

You’re right Aussie, no real bio or life to speak of for Murray! :affraid: They've had 3 years to come up with a page on the life of the 'infamous' man.

I posted this very long tidbits of Michael’s life recently, and this was a tiny part of it.
Quote
(MJ) Liked to make prank calls to various friends and acquaintances. Russell Crowe recalled such prank calls he received from Michael.  Many times he made prank calls (or answering his phone) using foreign accents and disguising his voice.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=314;area=showposts;start=50 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=314;area=showposts;start=50)

Compare the sound of Murray's voice with Michael's here. Have them going at the same time.  It seems similar to me.
Living With Michael Jackson The Martin Bashir Interview (part5) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjUBWKXeomk)

Here's another comparison pic of them speaking, and I've noticed also that both of them have a slight drooping bottom lip on the right side, showing when they smile or talk.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/murraywqw.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 27, 2012, 05:30:28 AM
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Here's another comparison pic of them speaking, and I've noticed also that both of them have a slight drooping bottom lip on the right side, showing when they smile or talk.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/murraywqw.jpg)

I´ve noticed that also!

Oh my....I am still somewhat reluctant to embark on the MJ=Murray theory but....the more I look at it the more I wonder.

I´ve seen quite a few members in the last days that got that MJ/Murray feeling from the "video we were never meant to see".

I´ll keep watchin´for sure.   :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Adi on June 27, 2012, 06:47:36 AM
I don't really know guys, but I do think there have been times in the past 3 years when we have seen Dr Murray and it really is Michael.

Not ALL the time and most probably not during the Dr M trial, but my gut feeling has always been telling me that there have been periods when Dr Murray is really Michael in disguise/costume. Mostly in staged photos published on TMZ (of course), but the two which  stand out for me are this video released on Michael's 3rd "death" anniversary and of course the one released ages ago just after Michael "died"  the "da troot will prevail" video.......regardless if this is the case or not, I feel that the message all along from and surrounding Dr Murray is directly from Michael.

My gut tells me Michael is there, somewhere, in some way, in Dr Murray  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 27, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Dr. Conrad Murray Biography - Facts, Birthday, Life Story - Biography.com (http://www.biography.com/people/dr-conrad-murray-481814)

Dr. Conrad Murray biography profile photos news
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NAME: Dr. Conrad Murray
OCCUPATION: Doctor
BIRTH DATE: February 19, 1953 (Age: 59)
EDUCATION: Texas Southern University, Meharry Medical College, Mayo Clinic
PLACE OF BIRTH: St. Andrews, Grenada
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Cardiologist and personal physician. Dr. Conrad Murray was born February 19, 1953, in St. Andrews, Grenada. He moved to the United States in 1980. In 1999, he opened a private practice. Michael Jackson hired him as a personal physician for Jackson's 2009 concert tour. In June 2009, Jackson died of a prescription drug overdose. Dr. Conrad will stand trial for involuntary manslaughter.

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Early Life and Medical Training
Practicing Medicine in Las Vegas
Treating the King of Pop
Michael Jackson's Death
Investigation & Indictment
Early Life and Medical Training

Cardiologist, personal physician. Born Conrad Robert Murray on February 19, 1953, in St. Andrews, Grenada.

The man who would become embroiled in the controversy surrounding the King of Pop's death in June 2009 did not come from money. With his mother Milta spending most of her time in Trinidad and Tobago in search of better paying work, Murray lived with his maternal grandparents, two Grenadian farmers. His fractured family life was compounded by the total absence of his father, Rawle Andrews, a Houston area physician who, up until his death in 2001, focused his career on offering medical services to the poor. Conrad didn't meet his dad until he was 25.

At the age of seven, Murray relocated to Trinidad and Tobago to live with his mother, where he became a citizen and finished high school. Like Milta, Murray was determined to make a better life for himself, demonstrating at an early age a propensity to work hard. After high school he volunteered as an elementary school teacher in Trinidad, an experience he followed with work as a customs clerk and an insurance underwriter in order to pay for his college education. Murray also wasn't afraid to take advantage of an opportunity. At the age of 19 he bought his first house, then later sold it for a decent profit to support his university tuition in the United States.

In 1980, two years after first visiting Houston and getting a chance to introduce himself to his father, Conrad Murray returned to Texas to enroll at Texas Southern University, where in just three years he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in pre-medicine and biological sciences. From there, Murray followed in his father's footsteps and attended the primarily African-American Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee.

Upon graduating Maharre, Murray enrolled for additional training at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and then completed his residency at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. Other training stints followed; he studied at the University of Arizona on a Cardiology Fellowship, and landed back in California, where he eventually worked as the associate director for the interventional cardiology fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego.

Practicing Medicine in Las Vegas

In 1999, Dr. Murray left California for a second time and struck out on his own, opening up a private practice in Las Vegas. Locating his office just east of the strip, Murray—again taking a cue from his father—aimed to serve not just the city's wealthy, but its underserved as well. In 2006, Murray expanded his scope and returned to the city where his father had made a name for himself to open the Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute.

"We have been so lucky to have Dr. Murray and that clinic in this community," Houston patient Ruby Mosley told People magazine. "There are many, many patients that thank God this man was here for them."

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Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on June 27, 2012, 09:21:17 AM
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Hello everyone,

what to the Devil is going on here?

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7246/murrayl.jpg)

It's the Conrad Murray video you were never meant to see -- a secret, emotional recording made days after Michael Jackson died ... in which Murray lies through his teeth about his relationship with the singer, blasts the public for blaming him for MJ's death, and even says he's a victim of M.J.'s deceptions.
The video -- which was never released -- was shot the very same day Murray recorded the infamous "Do not worry" clip he released in August 2009 ... his first address to the public after investigators named him as a suspect.

In this clip, Murray appears much more emotional -- with tears in his eyes, ranging from sadness to anger -- saying, "I can find no words satisfactory to summarize my affection for Michael."

He then proceeds to tell a bald-faced lie  -- saying, "Despite our relationships and conversations, I am now made aware through recent media reporting that he failed to share with me any problems involving his alleged addictions with medications."

It later came out during his manslaughter trial ... Murray was intimately familiar with MJ's drug addictions -- and claimed to use drugs as a means to ween Michael off Propofol.

Later in the video, Murray gets aggressive  -- saying, "No man, no woman, with the exception of innocent child, is absolutely free of hidden skeletons."

He continues, "Therefore, next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgment or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you're not 100% sure that when scrutinized no faults can be found, then you may have earned that right to criticize."

Sources close to Murray tell TMZ, Conny's lawyers eventually decided to bury the video because they felt it could only hurt him.

You gotta hear Murray's tone and anger in the video.
FYI -- today marks the 3-year anniversary of Michael Jackson's death.

Dr. Conrad Murray -- How DARE You Judge Me | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/25/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-interview-video/)

Much Peace and Love to everyone.

WOW!
Quote
"Therefore, next time you look in the mirror, before passing judgment or condemning someone, take a good look at yourself, and if you're not 100% sure that when scrutinized no faults can be found, then you may have earned that right to criticize."

which reminds me of:  “Don’t judge any man until you have walked two moons in his moccasins.”~Indian proverb

I  red colored the negative and condemning parts in this article, which is the typical way media and the public opinion have based on their ASSUMPTIONS to make (up) stories without even make one single effort to check the reliability of the source and not even think about the fact that even though there are hidden truths (skeletons), we might only hear a part of it which should not be considered as the whole truth.
I think that MJ's message, through Conrad Murray, is that the "truth" that we "SEE" through the media's eyes (mirror) is not 100% sure and as long as we let us spoon feed by the tabloid media, we do not earn to know the REAL truth. A clear and true lesson with L.O.V.E. by Michael.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
@ adi - re: your last post, my sentiments exactly!
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MissG on June 27, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
If this video was made 3 years ago, it makes sense. Good news for a change. What became news back then was the awful death of MJ and not much about his comeback.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: MaryK on June 28, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
As we have been talking about teeth a lot here, I thought that this is amusing:

The Jacksons this Wednesday before the "Good Morning America" show.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6byldtvaz1rp6jiho1_1280.jpg)

Look at Jermaine  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Adi on June 28, 2012, 09:16:31 AM
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As we have been talking about teeth a lot here, I thought that this is amusing:

The Jacksons this Wednesday before the "Good Morning America" show.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6byldtvaz1rp6jiho1_1280.jpg)

Look at Jermaine  :icon_mrgreen:

All looking handsome, nice and chirpy 2 days after the 3rd "deathversary" of their bro.....ALL with sunglasses  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 28, 2012, 10:32:15 AM
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As we have been talking about teeth a lot here, I thought that this is amusing:

The Jacksons this Wednesday before the "Good Morning America" show.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6byldtvaz1rp6jiho1_1280.jpg)

Look at Jermaine  :icon_mrgreen:

Jermaine you are so cute and... :icon_redface:  :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: bugsy on June 28, 2012, 11:23:46 AM
(http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/conrad-murray-mug-shot.jpg)
Conrad Murray Mug Shot - The Hollywood Gossip (http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/conrad-murray-mug-shot/)

is this picture real? Because the Date of Birth is 6 years later.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: wishingstar on June 28, 2012, 11:40:18 AM
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As we have been talking about teeth a lot here, I thought that this is amusing:

The Jacksons this Wednesday before the "Good Morning America" show.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6byldtvaz1rp6jiho1_1280.jpg)

Look at Jermaine  :icon_mrgreen:

Whoa!...can anyone please zoom in on Jermaine's watch?  I'd very much appreciate it......
Great picture!  Thank you for posting Mary K!

Blessings
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: emulik on June 28, 2012, 03:21:20 PM
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As we have been talking about teeth a lot here, I thought that this is amusing:

The Jacksons this Wednesday before the "Good Morning America" show.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6byldtvaz1rp6jiho1_1280.jpg)

Look at Jermaine  :icon_mrgreen:
Thank you MaryK for the picture! now I am even more confident that Jermaine reads here  :icon_razz:
very charming picture, indeed!
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: bec on June 28, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
I don't want to bring up the whole forum drama again but the headline reminds me of the abuse Front was receiving from the haters a couple weeks back how they were saying things like he's an online sexual predator and if Front is MJ then they would no longer be a fan, how Front can't be MJ because MJ would never do x, y, or z, etc.

"How DARE you judge me"... just sayin'.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 28, 2012, 05:18:20 PM
"take a look at yourself"..... do u remember anything? my favourite mj's song! is it a coincidence 2 find these words in the murray's speech?

LUNA
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Adi on June 28, 2012, 06:23:02 PM
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I don't want to bring up the whole forum drama again but the headline reminds me of the abuse Front was receiving from the haters a couple weeks back how they were saying things like he's an online sexual predator and if Front is MJ then they would no longer be a fan, how Front can't be MJ because MJ would never do x, y, or z, etc.

"How DARE you judge me"... just sayin'.

Yeah - interesting.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 28, 2012, 07:34:43 PM
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I don't want to bring up the whole forum drama again but the headline reminds me of the abuse Front was receiving from the haters a couple weeks back how they were saying things like he's an online sexual predator and if Front is MJ then they would no longer be a fan, how Front can't be MJ because MJ would never do x, y, or z, etc.

"How DARE you judge me"... just sayin'.

Yeah - interesting.

very interesting, considering CM didn't use these words verbatim in his video... so as well as a little video gem from CM we possibly have a message from someone else too...  :suspect: this idea sits well for me...


I LOVE YOU FRONT... Don't tell you enough... Regardless of who you are, its a blessing to have your presence on the forum and a privledge to read your posts.



Without entertaining it too much, re: what you mentioned Bec about haters.. If it were MJ fans who accused Front of being a predator, then THEY have learned nothing from what happened to poor Michael, in 93 and 05. Should be ashamed of themselves that they still 'dont get it' even though their ICON was vilified and tortured repeatedly by the same disgusting accusations. They shame the name of "MJ Fans" if they accuse someone based on unfounded ideas that have no proof of!

 
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: SimPattyK on June 28, 2012, 07:47:54 PM
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[...]
Whoa!...can anyone please zoom in on Jermaine's watch?  I'd very much appreciate it......
Great picture!  Thank you for posting Mary K!

Blessings
LOLL It  is indeed a FUNNY - hoaxy -teethy picture!!  ;D  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
tks for posting MaryK.

@Wishy: here's his watch: (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/jermaiawa.jpg)
What's up with his watch? what caught your attention?
It's not very clear unfortunately.... Looks like a 33 to me, but I'm sure it's not that.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: bec on June 28, 2012, 07:58:21 PM
@Aussie, the haters think they have proof. They accept it anyway. It would never stand up in a court of law but they don't seem to mind. Yes, they say they are fans, currently, with conditions, lol.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 28, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
oh, and when i say "a little video gem from CM" - i really mean a video gem from MJ...

thank you michael - you are in control of this train  :smiley_abuv: :smiley_abuv: :smiley_abuv:
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: wishingstar on June 28, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
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Whoa!...can anyone please zoom in on Jermaine's watch?  I'd very much appreciate it......
Great picture!  Thank you for posting Mary K!

Blessings
LOLL It  is indeed a FUNNY - hoaxy -teethy picture!!  ;D  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
tks for posting MaryK.

@Wishy: here's his watch: (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/jermaiawa.jpg)
What's up with his watch? what caught your attention?
It's not very clear unfortunately.... Looks like a 33 to me, but I'm sure it's not that.

Thank you Sim : )
I don't know why....it seems familiar, have we seen this watch somewhere?  Maybe he just wore it in a different interview?  It just is familiar.  It doesn't have to do with time or anything....just the familiarity of the watch itself.  Really odd.......
but I guess I must have had one too many filberts, lol.
If it dawns on me where I've seen it I will for sure post it......
Thanks again Sim.......Hugs!

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PS> I meant to comment earlier about this picture.......They are so funny together.  They all look like they are up to something.....little devil-horns with halos hanging above them for sure, lol.  Jermaine is especially funny here......
grinning like the Cheshire Cat.......we are surely down the rabbit hole aren't we! 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_Cat)

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Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 28, 2012, 09:08:46 PM
About CM's speech, this is the MJ interview that includes "Good News" don't sell......Before you judge me...try hard to love me.

MICHAEL JACKSON talks about HIMSELF, FANS, MEDIA. Good news doesn't sell... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w[/youtube]
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: CC on June 29, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
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About CM's speech, this is the MJ interview that includes "Good News" don't sell......Before you judge me...try hard to love me.

MICHAEL JACKSON talks about HIMSELF, FANS, MEDIA. Good news doesn't sell... - YouTube[/url
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w[/youtube]
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w)

after watch this video I´m thinking again abut the double, the double really existed. i remember i saw a video where he is walking into his house with paris in his arms and the double come out to take prince into the house. but was not him, was his double. this video did compare the height and make some good point about why he uses the short trousers... and he say in this video that michael jackson did not molested the kids, was someone else...
could be that the double did that? could be the double a part of the conspiracy against him? could be the double who died and the conspirators didn´t know who really died?
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 30, 2012, 04:05:32 AM
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Thank you MaryK for the picture! now I am even more confident that Jermaine reads here  :icon_razz:
very charming picture, indeed!



sorry 4 my question,emulik,but y r u so sure that jermy is reading our forum?

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Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: SimPattyK on June 30, 2012, 04:55:41 AM
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Thank you MaryK for the picture! now I am even more confident that Jermaine reads here  :icon_razz:
very charming picture, indeed!
sorry 4 my question,emulik,but y r u so sure that jermy is reading our forum?
*LUNA*
read replies #108 - 121 here: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22702.100)
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: LUNA on June 30, 2012, 06:03:02 AM
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read replies #108 - 121 here: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22702.100)


mhhh.... the teeth! it seems 2 be interesting. let's hope!  :icon_bounce:

*LUNA*
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Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 30, 2012, 09:52:20 AM
@CC...why after watching that Michael video you thought about the possibility of a MJ double?? Is it the double who is talking?
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: CC on June 30, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
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@CC...why after watching that Michael video you thought about the possibility of a MJ double?? Is it the double who is talking?

i always thought about the double who died that day, but when he say "michael jackson didn´t molested the kids" i think is someone else, like his double... just that...
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 30, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
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@CC...why after watching that Michael video you thought about the possibility of a MJ double?? Is it the double who is talking?

i always thought about the double who died that day, but when he say "michael jackson didn´t molested the kids" i think is someone else, like his double... just that...

No one molested those kids.
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 01, 2012, 01:35:11 AM
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About CM's speech, this is the MJ interview that includes "Good News" don't sell......Before you judge me...try hard to love me.

MICHAEL JACKSON talks about HIMSELF, FANS, MEDIA. Good news doesn't sell... - YouTube[/url
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w[/youtube]
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-N5ITFP_0w)

after watch this video I´m thinking again abut the double, the double really existed. i remember i saw a video where he is walking into his house with paris in his arms and the double come out to take prince into the house. but was not him, was his double. this video did compare the height and make some good point about why he uses the short trousers... and he say in this video that michael jackson did not molested the kids, was someone else...
could be that the double did that? could be the double a part of the conspiracy against him? could be the double who died and the conspirators didn´t know who really died?

I believe the conspiracy he is talking about is the Invinceable album....  Wasn't it after he spoke out against Tommy Mottola and Sony??  The album didn't make it to No.1 in America because of the evil ways of Tommy and the Music industry Mafia....
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: rachel1018 on July 02, 2012, 08:10:57 PM
LOL.......look at jermaine.......smile!!
Title: Re: Dr Murray How DARE you judge me
Post by: emulik on July 03, 2012, 08:18:59 AM
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Thank you MaryK for the picture! now I am even more confident that Jermaine reads here  :icon_razz:
very charming picture, indeed!



sorry 4 my question,emulik,but y r u so sure that jermy is reading our forum?

*LUNA*

yes, I have that feeling, besides that, we have many clues that he reads here. (keys behind him during interview, Jermaine wearing our hoax color,....there are many others, but I can not recall now)
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