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Title: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MJonmind on June 18, 2012, 05:02:32 AM
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6/18/2012 12:55 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
DR. CONRAD MURRAY
Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/17/0615-conrad-murray-tmz-1.jpg)

Dr. Conrad Murray is pulling a Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- pleading with a judge to spring him from L.A. County Jail because it's taking an extreme physical toll on his body ... and if he doesn't get help soon, Murray believes he'll DIE behind bars.

But here's the crazy thing -- unlike Mayweather, Murray's not asking for house arrest (he knows that will never happen) ... Murray's asking to be sent to PRISON, where he believes he'll get better care.

Murray's lawyer tells TMZ, he wants to serve out his time in the big house because he's being treated like filth in L.A. County jail -- getting fresh air once a month, and fresh underwear once a WEEK.

As a result of the alleged deprivation, we're told Murray's health is failing -- his hair, nails, and skin are gnarly  ... and he's been suffering from a constant headache over the last few weeks.

Murray says he's never gotten headaches in the past -- and is worried it might be a brain tumor.

We're told Murray asked to see a doctor, but got shuffled around and has received no medical attention.

Murray told his attorney, Valerie Wass, "I may not make it out of here alive. This is a very dangerous place. I'm in here dying. The system is intent on killing me."

A rep for the L.A. County Sheriff's Department tells us, the department doesn't comment on pending cases.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/18/dr-conrad-murray-jail-dying-prison/#comments-fullwrapper (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/18/dr-conrad-murray-jail-dying-prison/#comments-fullwrapper)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 18, 2012, 05:23:20 AM
That was a  8) post Harvey! Loved IT!
 :smiley-vault-misc-150:
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The system is intent on killing me

No kidding  :icon_lol:

The "alledged deprivation" thing was also noticed :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 18, 2012, 05:26:15 AM
OMG, this can't be real.  :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:

Change underwear once a week? Somebody call amnesty international!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 05:32:37 AM
Uh....first thing I can think of now (call me crazy):

Maybe the good doctor should eat more KIWI!  :affraid:

Kiwifruit provides you with almost all important sort of vitamins required for your body.
--> helps to reduce deficiency symptoms (like gnarly hair, nails, skin)!

And (as MJonmind already stated in the Back and Front thread):
According to researchers at the University of Oslo , it is suggested that, consuming 2-3 kiwifruit daily for one month can significantly reduce platelet aggregation and blood triglyceride levels (similar to what Aspirin does), thus reducing the risk of blood clots, but without any side-effects and in very natural way
--> Will help to avoid or soothe headache!

So....not monkey needs more kiwi but Murray needs more kiwi  :icon_lol:

 :animal0017:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: marumjj on June 18, 2012, 05:33:20 AM
MJonmind I thought it had been sent to prison where people are sentenced .. So still in the police department? that rare, 4 years in a police station. It also seems odd not to give medical attention, when we all know that if something happens to Murray, no one will want to bear blame or judgment.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: SimPattyK on June 18, 2012, 05:43:15 AM
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Uh....first thing I can think of now (call me crazy):

Maybe the good doctor should eat more KIWI!  :affraid:

Kiwifruit provides you with almost all important sort of vitamins required for your body.
--> helps to reduce deficiency symptoms (like gnarly hair, nails, skin)!

And (as MJonmind already stated in the Back and Front thread):
According to researchers at the University of Oslo , it is suggested that, consuming 2-3 kiwifruit daily for one month can significantly reduce platelet aggregation and blood triglyceride levels (similar to what Aspirin does), thus reducing the risk of blood clots, but without any side-effects and in very natural way
--> Will help to avoid or soothe headache!

So....not monkey needs more kiwi but Murray needs more kiwi  :icon_lol:

 :animal0017:

lmfao  :thjajaja121: we really did post similar stuff at almost the same time  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

This kind of TMZ news make me doubt more and more that Murray ever was in jail! lol I think it's all a farse. Nobody saw this guy filmed or photographed in jail! we only saw TMZ pics! loll
This article is in the same line as the diarrhea article ...and then again we had a TMZ-photoshopped pic with Murray on the "throne" !! Maybe Front's pic was hinting more at that kind of a "throne"?? just like few days ago he kept saying that Monkey (Murray) needs kiwi! lmfao !! Probably he needs lemons to wash away his indigestion!  :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 18, 2012, 06:04:37 AM
#murray - Don't like ur dirty 'undies' huh?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: AKHTONI on June 18, 2012, 06:25:27 AM
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Murray's lawyer tells TMZ, he wants to serve out his time in the big house because he's being treated like filth in L.A. County jail -- getting fresh air once a month, and fresh underwear once a WEEK.

OMG  :thjajaja121:  :thjajaja121:  :thjajaja121:

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we're told Murray's health is failing -- his hair, nails, and skin are gnarly  ... and he's been suffering from a constant headache over the last few weeks.

Murray says he's never gotten headaches in the past -- and is worried it might be a brain tumor.

First diarrhea and now this ^^ I guess TMZ next post: CM is DEAD. a real circus  :icon_lol:

oh i love tmz
Title: Re: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 18, 2012, 06:26:21 AM
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Uh....first thing I can think of now (call me crazy):

Maybe the good doctor should eat more KIWI!  :affraid:

Kiwifruit provides you with almost all important sort of vitamins required for your body.
--> helps to reduce deficiency symptoms (like gnarly hair, nails, skin)!

And (as MJonmind already stated in the Back and Front thread):
According to researchers at the University of Oslo , it is suggested that, consuming 2-3 kiwifruit daily for one month can significantly reduce platelet aggregation and blood triglyceride levels (similar to what Aspirin does), thus reducing the risk of blood clots, but without any side-effects and in very natural way
--> Will help to avoid or soothe headache!

So....not monkey needs more kiwi but Murray needs more kiwi  :icon_lol:

 :animal0017:

Lol
Title: Re: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 06:47:51 AM
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Uh....first thing I can think of now (call me crazy):

Maybe the good doctor should eat more KIWI!  :affraid:

Kiwifruit provides you with almost all important sort of vitamins required for your body.
--> helps to reduce deficiency symptoms (like gnarly hair, nails, skin)!

And (as MJonmind already stated in the Back and Front thread):
According to researchers at the University of Oslo , it is suggested that, consuming 2-3 kiwifruit daily for one month can significantly reduce platelet aggregation and blood triglyceride levels (similar to what Aspirin does), thus reducing the risk of blood clots, but without any side-effects and in very natural way
--> Will help to avoid or soothe headache!

So....not monkey needs more kiwi but Murray needs more kiwi  :icon_lol:

 :animal0017:

Lol

Ha! Don´t you lol at me  >:(

This is almost empirical evidence!

(http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_4472.gif)

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Loveunited on June 18, 2012, 06:49:57 AM
Thanks Front!LOL
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 18, 2012, 07:44:53 AM
HIStory,  was released for worldwide sale on June 18th, 1995.

POP VIEW; Michael Jackson Is Angry, Understand?
By JON PARELES
Published: June 18, 1995
MICHAEL JACKSON IS BACK
, AND HE'S furious. On his new double album, "HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I," his rage keeps ripping through the sweet, uplifting facade he has clung to throughout his career.

He's not pretending to be normal any more. In his new songs, he is paranoid and cagey, messianic and petty, vindictive and maudlin. Comparing himself to John F. Kennedy and Jesus Christ, he's a megalomaniac who feels like a victim. Yet he remains one of the most gifted musicians alive. And somehow, with the strange synchronicity of pop culture's longtime survivors, his private distress may have put him back in touch with a public mood: there are a lot of aggrieved, belligerent people who feel just as victimized as he does.

It has been a long time since Michael Jackson was simply a performer. He's the main asset of his own corporation, which is a profitable subsidiary of Sony. Sony executives have said that they hope to sell 20 million copies of "HIStory," which retails for $32.98 for the CDs ($23.98 for the cassettes). They're going to spend $30 million to do it.


Michael was seen leaving Dr Kleins office on this day June 18th June 2009..!!!


Just making connections to this latest article posted today, and in the past, TMZ seem to stick to numerology as well..Cheers
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 18, 2012, 07:54:00 AM
@2good2betrue" interesting connections.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 08:25:38 AM
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@2good2betrue" interesting connections.

Agree! Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 09:03:08 AM
Hm...

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A rep for the L.A. County Sheriff's Department tells us, the department doesn't comment on pending cases.

Pending case? Which? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: mindseye on June 18, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
He needs kiwi  :icon_lol:  Pending case from his previous complaint? idk  :suspect:
What if.... he dies....but not really, then bam? hmmm ...bizarro
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: bugsy on June 18, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
Not only do I have the song stayin alive in my head, I now have conrad murray in my head dancing to it, Maybe he should dance for his fresh underwear? :penguin:

Seriously though if it's true, I do feel sorry for him, he should be at least given his fresh underwear at least twice a week.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 09:31:18 AM
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He needs kiwi  :icon_lol:  Pending case from his previous complaint? idk  :suspect:
What if.... he dies....but not really, then bam? hmmm ...bizarro

Well there are so many scenarios that I can think of.

Dies in jail but not really like Horace Pinker in the movie Shocker
Dies in jail and is seen as a ghost at Carolwood afterwards
Jailbreak and car chase OJ Simpson style afterwards
Has a brain tumor and develops genius-level intelligence and telekinetic abilities like in the movie Phenomenon

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/ActionComicsCvr785.jpg/185px-ActionComicsCvr785.jpg)

Truly.....

 :icon_lol:

Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: RK on June 18, 2012, 10:26:13 AM
Oh my goodness. I haven't laughed this hard in ages. Poor poor Conrad. If he's existing on tinned fish, next he'll be having mercury poisoning, and Mr Stinky pants will be in desperate need of a change.....of underwear more than prison facilities.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 18, 2012, 10:33:04 AM
Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: paula-c on June 18, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
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OMG, this can't be real.  :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:

Change underwear once a week? Somebody call amnesty international!!



Who has the habit change his underwear once a week, Harvey or Murray? :errrr:

(http://www.emoticonos3d.com/General/Humor/10_15_6.gif) :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 18, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
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Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

I thought of that also!

Thriller time..... :affraid:

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: paula-c on June 18, 2012, 10:56:52 AM
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Murray's lawyer tells TMZ, he wants to serve out his time in the big house because he's being treated like filth in L.A. County jail -- getting fresh air once a month, and fresh underwear once a WEEK.




In that prison there is conjugal visits? That will tell Nicole Alvarez of that?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: RK on June 18, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
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In that prison there is conjugal visits? That will tell Nicole Alvarez of that?

Not without a change of underwear Paula. (http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x365/jaykay959/boohoo.gif)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: SimPattyK on June 18, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
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HIStory,  was released for worldwide sale on June 18th, 1995.
POP VIEW; Michael Jackson Is Angry, Understand?
By JON PARELES
Published: June 18, 1995
MICHAEL JACKSON IS BACK
, AND HE'S furious. On his new double album, "HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I," his rage keeps ripping through the sweet, uplifting facade he has clung to throughout his career.

He's not pretending to be normal any more. In his new songs, he is paranoid and cagey, messianic and petty, vindictive and maudlin. Comparing himself to John F. Kennedy and Jesus Christ, he's a megalomaniac who feels like a victim. Yet he remains one of the most gifted musicians alive. And somehow, with the strange synchronicity of pop culture's longtime survivors, his private distress may have put him back in touch with a public mood: there are a lot of aggrieved, belligerent people who feel just as victimized as he does.

It has been a long time since Michael Jackson was simply a performer. He's the main asset of his own corporation, which is a profitable subsidiary of Sony. Sony executives have said that they hope to sell 20 million copies of "HIStory," which retails for $32.98 for the CDs ($23.98 for the cassettes). They're going to spend $30 million to do it.
Michael was seen leaving Dr Kleins office on this day June 18th June 2009..!!!

Just making connections to this latest article posted today, and in the past, TMZ seem to stick to numerology as well..Cheers

yep I just love that number 18 coming up all the time from everywhere ...  :icon_e_wink:

MJ & ELVIS ~ Numerology clues (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20301.0)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2706/mjelvisarealive02.jpg)




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In that prison there is conjugal visits? That will tell Nicole Alvarez of that?
Not without a change of underwear Paula. (http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x365/jaykay959/boohoo.gif)
lmfao :thjajaja121:
but hey who needs underwear anyway during a conjugal visit?  :icon_geek:  :affraid: :icon_geek: :icon_geek: :thjajaja121:

ohh Jeezzz... I guess we all needed a good laugh! Thank you TMZ!! you guys are the BEST!  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:


Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: SimPattyK on June 18, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
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Uh....first thing I can think of now (call me crazy):

Maybe the good doctor should eat more KIWI!  :affraid:

Kiwifruit provides you with almost all important sort of vitamins required for your body.
--> helps to reduce deficiency symptoms (like gnarly hair, nails, skin)!

And (as MJonmind already stated in the Back and Front thread):
According to researchers at the University of Oslo , it is suggested that, consuming 2-3 kiwifruit daily for one month can significantly reduce platelet aggregation and blood triglyceride levels (similar to what Aspirin does), thus reducing the risk of blood clots, but without any side-effects and in very natural way
--> Will help to avoid or soothe headache!

So....not monkey needs more kiwi but Murray needs more kiwi  :icon_lol: :animal0017:
lmfao  :thjajaja121: we really did post similar stuff at almost the same time  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

This kind of TMZ news make me doubt more and more that Murray ever was in jail! lol I think it's all a farse. Nobody saw this guy filmed or photographed in jail! we only saw TMZ pics! loll
This article is in the same line as the diarrhea article ...and then again we had a TMZ-photoshopped pic with Murray on the "throne" !! Maybe Front's pic was hinting more at that kind of a "throne"?? just like few days ago he kept saying that Monkey (Murray) needs kiwi! lmfao !! Probably he needs lemons to wash away his indigestion!  :thjajaja121:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/murrayvev.jpg)

 :) Just a quick "VISUAL" reminder^^ of the other VERY similar TMZ-article!  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
I just can't believe Murray has spent a single minute behind bars! Nooo way! :icon_e_biggrin: :icon_albino:



It's more likely that this Murray-dude (iF he really exists!) is spending his "conjugal visits" somewhere in Hawai or Bahamas on a hot beach , drinking KIWI - cocktails!

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/murraymiam.jpg)


from TNZ (True News Zone  :icon_lol: )

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5517483270.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: paula-c on June 18, 2012, 01:31:09 PM
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HIStory,  was released for worldwide sale on June 18th, 1995.
POP VIEW; Michael Jackson Is Angry, Understand?
By JON PARELES
Published: June 18, 1995
MICHAEL JACKSON IS BACK
, AND HE'S furious. On his new double album, "HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I," his rage keeps ripping through the sweet, uplifting facade he has clung to throughout his career.

He's not pretending to be normal any more. In his new songs, he is paranoid and cagey, messianic and petty, vindictive and maudlin. Comparing himself to John F. Kennedy and Jesus Christ, he's a megalomaniac who feels like a victim. Yet he remains one of the most gifted musicians alive. And somehow, with the strange synchronicity of pop culture's longtime survivors, his private distress may have put him back in touch with a public mood: there are a lot of aggrieved, belligerent people who feel just as victimized as he does.

It has been a long time since Michael Jackson was simply a performer. He's the main asset of his own corporation, which is a profitable subsidiary of Sony. Sony executives have said that they hope to sell 20 million copies of "HIStory," which retails for $32.98 for the CDs ($23.98 for the cassettes). They're going to spend $30 million to do it.
Michael was seen leaving Dr Kleins office on this day June 18th June 2009..!!!

Just making connections to this latest article posted today, and in the past, TMZ seem to stick to numerology as well..Cheers

yep I just love that number 18 coming up all the time from everywhere ...  :icon_e_wink:

MJ & ELVIS ~ Numerology clues (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=20301.0)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2706/mjelvisarealive02.jpg)




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In that prison there is conjugal visits? That will tell Nicole Alvarez of that?
Not without a change of underwear Paula. (http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x365/jaykay959/boohoo.gif)
lmfao :thjajaja121:
but hey who needs underwear anyway during a conjugal visit?  :icon_geek:  :affraid: :icon_geek: :icon_geek: :thjajaja121:

ohh Jeezzz... I guess we all needed a good laugh! Thank you TMZ!! you guys are the BEST!  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:






Well, if you do not change your underwear nor perhaps taking a shower...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Grace on June 18, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
- Murray's carnival fits Kee Wee Entertainment "Fun for everyone" Father's Day Buffet and Carnival on June 17.
Calendar (http://www.keeweeentertainment.com/)

- CM's photo is one of the most sloppily shopped photos TMZ ever used.

- "Murray's asking to be sent to PRISON, where he believes he'll get better care."
Speculating on France?

- DIE - PRISON - WEEK
DI - PRIS = taken in French - SON - WEAK ?

- Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a boxer currently in jail in Las Vegas, complaining about food and water
Judge rules Floyd Mayweather must remain in jail - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8049602/judge-rules-floyd-mayweather-remain-jail)

- Murray's health is failing -- his hair, nails, and skin are gnarly

Failing:
Quote
When someone is continuously doing REALLY stupid things under the influence of marijuana that cause that person embarrassment.
Urban Dictionary: failing (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=failing)

Gnarly:
Quote
Gnarly is when you've gone beyond radical (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=radical), beyond extreme (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=extreme), it's balls out danger, & or perfection, & or skill or all of that combined.

 slang term for something extreme. Used in bad and good cases.

 grotesque, yet awesome
Urban Dictionary: gnarly (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gnarly)


Murray's article was published 6/18/2012 12:55 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF


Some 7 hours earlier:
Stars In Heat 6/18/2012 6:00 AM PDT BY Johnny Lopez 
Chris Hemsworth
The Ridiculously 
RIPPED Tide


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/18/0618-chris-hemsworth-splash-3.jpg) (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/18/0618-chris-hemsworth-splash-3.jpg)
As if  flashing his buff pecs, abs and biceps wasn't enough, "Avengers" star Chris Hemsworth also showed off his impressive surfing skills in Australia this weekend.

When not walking around in all his jacked up body of a god glory, the 28-year-old used his super powers to ride a major wave Down Under.

Who knew Thor could shred the gnar?
Chris Hemsworth -- The Ridiculously Ripped Tide | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/18/chris-hemsworth-buff-shirtless-surfing/)


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Chris Hemsworth (born 11 August 1983)[1] is an Australian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia) actor. He first gained recognition for playing the role of Kim Hyde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Hyde) in the Australian TV series Home and Away (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_and_Away), and in 2009 his first major film role came as Lieutenant Commander George Kirk in Star Trek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_%28film%29). He gained international attention for his role as the Marvel Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics) superhero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhero) Thor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_%28Marvel_Comics%29) in the 2011 film of the same name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_%28film%29), reprising his role in 2012's The Avengers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avengers_%282012_film%29). In 2012 he also starred in The Cabin in the Woods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cabin_in_the_Woods) and Snow White & the Huntsman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_%26_the_Huntsman).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hemsworth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hemsworth)


Quote
In Norse mythology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology), Thor (from Old Norse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse) Þ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9E)órr) is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder), lightning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning), storms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm), oak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak) trees, strength (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength), the protection of mankind, and also hallowing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallow), healing, and fertility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fertility).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor)



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Michael Jackson - The Tides Will Turn [NEW SONG] 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I&feature=player_embedded)



Marcus Joseph Williams (Stian) (http://stian.blogg.no/1335526960_marcus_joseph_william.html)
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Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.
Marcus Joseph Williams from Stadsbygd i Trøndelag, Norway.


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1. (http://ripped.urbanup.com/261728)  ripped
Well defined muscles
Correction being ripped doesnt have to mean alot of muscle, you can have a little muscle but have VERY low bodyfat, making your muscles look super defined.i wanna get a ripped body
 
3. (http://ripped.urbanup.com/574) ripped
Term used when one is stoned, off their faces or off their titsGood god u were ripped last night 

4. (http://ripped.urbanup.com/2577178) ripped
1. To be stoned (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stoned) or high (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=high) out of ones mind by the means or weed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weed).
2. To look very muscular and built.
3. To take information off a portable device. Usually a CD.
1. Dude, you were totality ripped off that bong.
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger was ripped back in the day.
3. Bob ripped the music off the CD and put it on his computer.  weed (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weed) smoke (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smoke) muscular (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muscular) steal (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=steal) cd (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cd)

5. (http://ripped.urbanup.com/1174706) ripped
stoned, high, messed up.lets get ripped tonight 

6. (http://ripped.urbanup.com/253910) ripped
1. as in weightlifting, low body-fat, muscle definition, all over.
 
2. to be made fun of, mocked, yelled at.1. whoa, that dude's ripped...
 
2. whoa, you just got ripped...
Urban Dictionary: ripped (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ripped)


( I thought I'd see a "J" in Hemsworth's hairs)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MJonmind on June 18, 2012, 03:40:02 PM
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Michael Jackson's Underwear Up For Sale
September 9, 2008 by: HOLLYSCOOP TEAM

Share Email File this one under 'gross.' A pair of unwashed underwear that once belonged to Michael Jackson is going up for sale on eBay with a reserve price of $1 million.

New Jersey businessman Henry Vacarro obtained the white size 28 Calvin Klein briefs in a bankruptcy case and boy do these tighty whities have a past!

This specific pair of undies were part of the evidence confiscated in 2003 by former DA Tom Sneddon, who wanted a DNA sample for his child-molestation case against Jackson. They even come in an evidence bag and wrapped with police tape!

If you have an extra million to spend on someone else's used underwear, look for the undies on eBay tomorrow.
Michael Jackson's Underwear Up For Sale - Michael Jackson (http://www.hollyscoop.com/michael-jackson/michael-jacksons-underwear-up-for-sale.html)


Can’t you all just picture Sneddon and other idiots sniffing MJ’s underwear like a pack of wolves. Traces of Cocaine found.  This just is so sad, and hilarious. I can’t imagine the horror MJ felt. :(

Cocaine in Jacko's pants | The Sun |News (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/192164/Cocaine-in-Jackos-pants.html)

I can only imagine the feeding frenzy and bidding wars.  :affraid:

RK,
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Mr Skinky pants.
   :thjajaja121:

MaryK, great possibilities!

Simpa, I agree!

I don’t know if Murray’s problems sound worse than what MJ experienced after being arrested.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXTWzi9vcg[/youtube]

Leilani81, lol, at 1:07 is Staying Alive – inside the Shrek dragon (maybe true in MJ’s case)!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yDF67SQyFs[/youtube]

Fun to dance to Thriller in your underwear!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_t7H_1U01w[/youtube]


Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: bugsy on June 18, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
@MJonmind  haha! :thjajaja121:

It does seem uncanny though that Michael Jackson and the brutality and Dr Murrays neglect, I'm still wondering if this is in stage of "They don't car about us" still Thriller was up after wasn't it and then earth song in the way of short films?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: marumjj on June 18, 2012, 07:15:10 PM
 :omg: I had forgotten about Nicole! Hey where is that woman with fresh underwear?
Thanks for the numerology SimPattyK I have not read enough.  :th_bravo:

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Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 18, 2012, 07:23:28 PM
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Not only do I have the song stayin alive in my head, I now have conrad murray in my head dancing to it, Maybe he should dance for his fresh underwear? :penguin:

Seriously though if it's true, I do feel sorry for him, he should be at least given his fresh underwear at least twice a week.

I'm still trying to figure out - did you make this comment because of Paris' tweet or was it the other way around?

When I saw the article I can't help but think it has something to do with the 2005 allegations, again.

Blessings

Paris Jackson Twitter @ParisJackson (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18330.msg410386#msg410386)
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Post by: bugsy on June 18, 2012, 08:57:31 PM
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Not only do I have the song stayin alive in my head, I now have conrad murray in my head dancing to it, Maybe he should dance for his fresh underwear? :penguin:

Seriously though if it's true, I do feel sorry for him, he should be at least given his fresh underwear at least twice a week.

I'm still trying to figure out - did you make this comment because of Paris' tweet or was it the other way around?

When I saw the article I can't help but think it has something to do with the 2005 allegations, again.

Blessings

Paris Jackson Twitter @ParisJackson (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18330.msg410386#msg410386)

I saw the paris thread first and then read this thread.

I am thinking the same about the 2005 allegations, there is much too many similar things within it, not the actual words but it feels like the same situation with the court case and this.

I only can go on what i would do in situations when no one believes me and last year I came to realize people will judge you and not believe you, I worked out the only way people will understand, will accept that some things aren't true, or is true, and that people lie is by showing them through experiencing it,where they witness it first hand and there really can not be any doubt at that point. I kind of get the feeling this is the same thing. People would not believe Michael regardless to being foung not guilty, they believed everything the media was saying and yet they could not see the media was just reporting what sells even as untrue and unlikely as it was, you can talk, you can scream you can plead for them to believe you but they won't. Putting people in a place where they see how media can fabricate, how things can be made to look like something it's not is something I would do. After all, no one can doubt the media's reliability to put the truth, and no one can doubt that what you see is never always the truth when it comes to what you read or see if you turn out to be alive. Those people are then faced with the truth that media will leap on anything for a good story and money and are no reliable the only person who is reliable as a source is the person themselves. lot's of people are irrational they don't consider all the facts like the personality, is the person capable of such things being accused? what REAL evidence is there, where everything is based on heresay you should never be so absolute when you convict someone of the accusations because you could be being led by the nose and manipulated to believe in a altered perception.

Sorry for the off topic, I have been judged wrong most of my life, and it's been worse since becoming an adult, I have witnessed just how stubborn people can be without any basis for it and they just never listen to you. They think they have a better picture of you than yourself. I find as stated above the best way for them to step back and think is put them in a position where they are involved in it and then shown. it's the only way I can get them to believe me and understand these days. OK back on topic.

Hasn't there been a lot of reports of police brutality lately?? I was on youtube last week appalled at what some of the police were doing, beating up people for something small...could this also be the message?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: emulik on June 19, 2012, 02:13:17 AM
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Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:

I thought of that also!

Thriller time..... :affraid:

 :LolLolLolLol:
yes, that capitals seem to have some meaning, probably. So should we look forward to June, 25-th? something interesting is maybe going to happen. 6 days left..
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 19, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
Also, on this day June 18th...............Geraldo.....Did Elvis Presley committ suicide???   This is when Joe Esposito stuffs up and basically tells the world that "Elvis is ALIVE !!!!

ELVIS IS ALIVE 1990 Geraldo show: Joe says ...and that 's how Elvis feels about this situation. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHL3QfHT6XU&feature=relmfu)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHL3QfHT6XU&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

Geraldo show June 18, 1990 Did Elvis Presley commit suicide - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifpPrYPGODU)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifpPrYPGODU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 19, 2012, 08:25:33 AM
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Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:


now that is one interesting theory....


wait ill ask the 8 ball...

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damn. didnt work!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: RK on June 19, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Here is more on Murray in the lock-up.... not from TMZ, but is very similar in content.

nrad Murray: ‘I feel like a POW’
MJNA STAFF JUNE 19, 2012 
(CNN) – Seven months in the Los Angeles County jail have taken a physical toll on Conrad Murray, the doctor convicted in Michael Jackson’s death, his lawyer told CNN Monday.



“He looked horrible,” Attorney Valerie Wass said, describing a visit last week with Murray. “I’ve never seen him like that. I’m shocked.”

Word that Murray is suffering behind bars may be welcomed news to some Jackson fans who were angry that prosecutors charged him with involuntary manslaughter and not the more serious crime of murder.

Murray, 59, has been in jail since November when he was found guilty. He must serve two years of his four year sentence in jail, which would put his release in October, 2013.

Next Monday will be the third anniversary of Jackson’s death, which the Los Angeles County coroner ruled was caused by a fatal combination of the surgical anesthetic propofol and sedatives administered by Murray.

“He told me last Tuesday ‘I may not make it out of here alive. This is a very dangerous place. I’m in here dying. The system is intent on killing me,’” said Wass, who is handling Murray’s appeal.

The doctor suspects his moldy, fly-infested, 5-by-7-foot cell is making him sick, causing headaches that have plagued him for several weeks, Wass said.

When Wass took Murray’s complaints to jail officials, they told her his activities are restricted because “we’re afraid somebody’s going to pop him,” she said.

It took several days for Murray to see a doctor about his persistent headache last week, Wass said.

Murray is “receiving the appropriate level of care for his medical condition,” Los Angeles County Sheriff spokeswoman Nicole Nishida said Monday.

Murray is serving his sentence in the county jail, which is operated by the sheriff, because of rules imposed to relieve state prison overcrowding. There is little chance he would be transferred there, Wass said.

Wass said she believed Murray would better off in a state prison, where he would be able to get exercise and fresh air regularly. He’s only seen the sunshine once in the past four weeks, even though prisoners in the high-security “F Block” are suppose to be taken to the jail roof each Monday afternoon, she said.

Murray told his lawyer even the “Grim Sleeper” suspect, who is charged with killing 10 women over a 22-year period, was allowed on the roof last Monday while Murray was not, Wass said.

The sheriff”s spokeswoman said he was getting “standard roof time” of once a week.

“I feel like a POW,” Murray told his lawyer, using the acronym for prisoner of war.

He gets fresh underwear just once a week, his lawyer complained.

Murray’s getting the “normal linen and clothing exchange,” Nashida said.

Still, Murray appears to be getting along well with his jailers, his lawyer, Wass, said.

“I’ve been respectful to the sheriff’s deputies and for the most part they have reciprocated,” the lawyer quoted Murray telling her.

The jail food is disagreeable to Murray, Wass said. He told her he’s has “nothing real to eat” since being locked up.

A breakfast of a “smelly” boiled egg, two slices of bread, cereal and milk is delivered at 4:30 a.m. each day, followed by a peanut butter and jelly or bologna sandwich for lunch. Dinner, delivered at 3:30 p.m., is usually is “a meat product that looks like clotted blood,” along with green beans, corn and cabbage, she said.

Murray passes his time each day helping other inmates improve their vocabulary with a “word of the day” game that he designed, she said.

Wass, who is working without pay, is still preparing the appeal of Murray’s conviction.

 

 
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: curls on June 19, 2012, 11:11:21 AM
A Word of the Day Game? That sounds like something Its her would enjoy!! Perhaps Connie would let us all join in to 'pass the time'!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: emulik on June 19, 2012, 11:30:41 AM
"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: wishingstar on June 19, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Sounds like Front sent him a cake, lol..........

59 = TMZ = The Lie  (also in Jewish gematria 630 = TMZ = Mj)

18 = DIE .............................(see SimPattyK's post about 18...its a few back from here in this thread  :icon_eek:)

91 = PRISON = Nanny Grace, Katherine, deception, vendetta, "an egg in an egg" (maybe easter egg thing?),   
        "but on a can" (that one cracked me up because of the picture posted by TMZ)

44 = WEEK = faith, hope, hidden

*the comments in  ( )  are from me....nothing to do with any match in the gematria

Blessings Always
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Post by: emulik on June 19, 2012, 11:56:51 AM
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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Sounds like Front sent him a cake, lol.........
:LolLolLolLol: thank you for good laugh Wishy!  :icon_razz:

that gematria stuff is very interesting! thank you!  :beerchug:
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Post by: wishingstar on June 19, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Sounds like Front sent him a cake, lol.........
:LolLolLolLol: thank you for good laugh Wishy!  :icon_razz:

that gematria stuff is very interesting! thank you!  :beerchug:

 :bearhug: x 777
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 19, 2012, 12:07:35 PM
"Roof time" on Mondays?

Well I hope he´ll not be permitted to go next Monday and accidentally fall off the roof.  :affraid:

Off the wall, so to speak.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: SEHF on June 19, 2012, 12:23:56 PM
poor guy
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: RK on June 19, 2012, 12:30:53 PM
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"Roof time" on Mondays?

Well I hope he´ll not be permitted to go next Monday and accidentally fall off the roof.  :affraid:

Off the wall, so to speak.  :icon_lol:

Conrad Murray sitting on the roof
Soaking up the sun in this prison spun spoof.
An accidental push and the Doctor now lies
On the pavement below where he instantly dies.
The tabloids go mad never adding the facts
That this doctor is really a doctored up act.
Who passes away on 25th of June
Alas poor Murray...He was gone too soon.


Sorry Michael...not trying to write your script or anything...just letting our imaginations play around with things. :fresse:
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Post by: suspicious mind on June 19, 2012, 12:32:56 PM
wasn't tito hanging out on a roof alot a while back
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: BeTheChange on June 19, 2012, 12:36:30 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: Love the poem RK!  :icon_lol:

Maybe they'll be nice and let him play hopscotch on the roof on Monday...


 :icon_e_biggrin:

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: bec on June 19, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
Did not Evan Chandler suffer from a brain tumor?
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Post by: bugsy on June 19, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Rather a MoUldy cell than a MoUldy cake, at least the cell can't cause anything explosive.

Wonder if Latoya's twitter and the U has anything to do with the missing u from mouldy? 

awww no emoticon with a magnifying glass :P

Quote
La Toya Jackson‏@latoyajackson

GM Guys! ThankU so much 4 the Get Well Wishes! Its so nice 2know that Ucare! It worked! Spreading love is contagious! Let's B contagious
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 19, 2012, 01:03:00 PM
 :omg: RK....that was hilarious  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 19, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
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Did not Evan Chandler suffer from a brain tumor?

Wasn´t that Bashir?
At least there were rumors.
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Post by: bec on June 19, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
Oh yes Bashir. Chandler had cancer too I thought though...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Andrea on June 19, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
According to reports Chandler did have cancer.  I think he was found in his condo because he missed an appointment with his doctor who was treating him for cancer.
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Post by: Grace on June 19, 2012, 01:39:37 PM
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Wonder if Latoya's twitter and the U has anything to do with the missing u from mouldy? 
Quote
La Toya Jackson‏@latoyajackson

GM Guys! ThankU so much 4 the Get Well Wishes! Its so nice 2know that Ucare! It worked! Spreading love is contagious! Let's B contagious

LaToya had a stomach flu.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 19, 2012, 01:49:27 PM
Why would the grim sleeper be in county jail?????
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: marumjj on June 19, 2012, 02:20:42 PM
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¿Por qué la cama triste estar en la cárcel del condado? ?

Me pregunto lo mismo  :suspect:

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Post by: wishingstar on June 19, 2012, 03:10:19 PM
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Why would the grim sleeper be in county jail?????

I asked this of a friend recently.....exactly right, he wouldn't I don't think.  A "county" jail is reserved for prisoners with a short term sentence, waiting to be tried type of thing....not a convicted charge manslaughter and 4 years.

  Men's Central Jail (http://www.lasdhq.org/divisions/custody/mcj/index.html)

LASD Inmate Information Center - Inmate Search (http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm)

Follow the link to booking details, it won't copy for me.  But, you can see he's listed in the men's jail....or some "conrad murray" is, lol. 

It's interesting to read about the jail.....the "about" is interesting as is the "inmate services"........

Blessings

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Post by: SimPattyK on June 19, 2012, 05:46:10 PM
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Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: blankie on June 19, 2012, 05:47:41 PM
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Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:



 :icon_e_surprised: :icon_e_surprised: :smiley-vault-misc-150:  by Michael we can expect everything....

Frank Cascio in his book says that the security chief named Michael JOKER, because he always combining  jokes to all......:icon_bounce:....

.....therefore...... :icon_razz: :icon_bounce: everything can be !!!   :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 19, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Not the pot again, please...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 19, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
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Why would the grim sleeper be in county jail?????

I asked this of a friend recently.....exactly right, he wouldn't I don't think.  A "county" jail is reserved for prisoners with a short term sentence, waiting to be tried type of thing....not a convicted charge manslaughter and 4 years.

  Men's Central Jail (http://www.lasdhq.org/divisions/custody/mcj/index.html)

LASD Inmate Information Center - Inmate Search (http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm)



Follow the link to booking details, it won't copy for me.  But, you can see he's listed in the men's jail....or some "conrad murray" is, lol. 

It's interesting to read about the jail.....the "about" is interesting as is the "inmate services"........

Blessings

Sorry I typed in the middle of the quote - this is the revised post  :icon_redface:

No I mean this statement from Murray:  "Murray told his lawyer even the “Grim Sleeper” suspect, who is charged with killing 10 women over a 22-year period, was allowed on the roof last Monday while Murray was not, Wass said."
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Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 19, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
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Why would the grim sleeper be in county jail?????

I asked this of a friend recently.....exactly right, he wouldn't I don't think.  A "county" jail is reserved for prisoners with a short term sentence, waiting to be tried type of thing....not a convicted charge manslaughter and 4 years.

  Men's Central Jail (http://www.lasdhq.org/divisions/custody/mcj/index.html)

LASD Inmate Information Center - Inmate Search (http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm)

Follow the link to booking details, it won't copy for me.  But, you can see he's listed in the men's jail....or some "conrad murray" is, lol. 

It's interesting to read about the jail.....the "about" is interesting as is the "inmate services"........

Blessings

I believe he was sent to jail because of the overcrowded prisons. Those with lesser crimes are serving out their time in jail rather than prison. There was a law that was passed to allow this - at least this is what I recollect from memory.

I'm not at all convinced that Murray is there, at any rate.

Blessings
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Post by: bugsy on June 19, 2012, 07:03:57 PM
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Wonder if Latoya's twitter and the U has anything to do with the missing u from mouldy? 
Quote
La Toya Jackson‏@latoyajackson

GM Guys! ThankU so much 4 the Get Well Wishes! Its so nice 2know that Ucare! It worked! Spreading love is contagious! Let's B contagious

LaToya had a stomach flu.

I'm confused, is that one of the new rages or somthing use a capital U when mentioning stomach flu and the use just previous to that post? if so, I think i lost more than a couple of years of the internet. I am feeling like i'm from the jerrassic era.
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Post by: Loveunited on June 19, 2012, 09:38:42 PM
ooooh, good connections Leilani
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on June 19, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
So now he's playing a word of the day game with other inmates?? I thought he was supposed to be kept away from other inmates :suspect: Did that change? Maybe I missed something  :animal0017:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: emulik on June 20, 2012, 02:40:43 AM
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Words in caps besides TMZ: DIE, PRISON, WEEK. I guess Murray's gonna die in prison on Michael's hoax anniversary... :icon_lol: :icon_lol:



 :icon_e_surprised: :icon_e_surprised: :smiley-vault-misc-150:  by Michael we can expect everything....

Frank Cascio in his book says that the security chief named Michael JOKER, because he always combining  jokes to all......:icon_bounce:....

.....therefore...... :icon_razz: :icon_bounce: everything can be !!!   :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
you are right Blankie  :icon_razz: it is always good to look forward to something, to be surprised by something!  :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 20, 2012, 10:07:30 AM
Maybe I'm the only one who thinks it strange that an inmate who has killed over 10 women in a 22 year span is at city jail with Murray???? 
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Post by: MJonmind on June 20, 2012, 02:00:23 PM
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TMZ
Dr. Conrad Murray is pulling a Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- pleading with a judge to spring him from L.A. County Jail because it's taking an extreme physical toll on his body ... and if he doesn't get help soon, Murray believes he'll DIE behind bars.

Quote
June 14, 2012
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s lawyer asking for jail alteration
Attorneys argued the undefeated champ was getting out of shape in solitary confinement and might never fight again

The Associated Press via USA Today
LAS VEGAS — A judge said she would decide this week whether to ease jail conditions for Floyd Mayweather Jr. after his attorneys argued the undefeated champ was getting out of shape in solitary confinement and might never fight again.
Las Vegas Justice of the Peace Melissa Saragosa made no ruling Tuesday on an emergency motion asking the court to move Mayweather into the general jail population — something that jail officials had avoided out of fear for the celebrity's safety — or put him in house arrest for the rest of his sentence.
Mayweather attorney Richard Wright said he would be willing to have the boxer serve the sentence in an apartment or a site less luxurious than Mayweather's posh Vegas-area home.
"I'm not looking for special treatment for Floyd Mayweather," Wright said. "I'm looking for fair treatment."
But prosecutor Lisa Luzaich said softening the sentence would be another accommodation, similar to when Mayweather's jail surrender date was postponed for months after sentencing so he could fight Miguel Cotto in May.
"They keep chipping away, chipping away, chipping away," Luzaich said.
Mayweather pleaded guilty in December to misdemeanor domestic battery and no contest to two harassment charges that stemmed from an attack on his ex-girlfriend while two of their children watched. He was sentenced to three months and entered jail June 1.
Mayweather's jail stay will be capped at 87 days because the judge gave him credit for three days previously served. It could be reduced by several weeks for good behavior.
In the motion, first reported by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, lawyers said Mayweather's personal physician, Robert Voy, visited the jail Friday and was concerned that the 35-year-old fighter appeared to have lost muscle tone.
Voy estimated the boxer was consuming fewer than 800 calories a day — a drop from his usual 3,000 or 4,000 calories — and wasn't drinking enough because he isn't allowed bottled water and doesn't usually drink tap water.
Mayweather has been getting about 30 minutes twice a day in a couple of barren recreation areas in the administrative segregation unit. His cell, no larger than 7-by-12 feet, has barely enough space for push-ups and sit-ups.
But prosecutors argued he's "deconditioning" by choice and declining much of his food. "He has the ability to exercise, he just chooses not to," Luzaich said. "It's jail. Where did he think he was going? The Four Seasons?"
Voy and Wright also pointed to Mayweather's declining emotional state.
"I am concerned about Floyd withdrawing, developing anger he cannot dissipate through the usual means of dedicated exercise and training," Voy wrote in an affidavit.
Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s lawyer asking for jail alteration (http://www.correctionsone.com/treatment/articles/5728300-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-s-lawyer-asking-for-jail-alteration/)

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/426942-latest-in-string-of-lawsuits-against-floyd-mayweather-jr-bared (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/426942-latest-in-string-of-lawsuits-against-floyd-mayweather-jr-bared)

My guess is they're saying it's all strategy, "chipping away", at pulling the sympathy card, to get what they want.

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Murray told his lawyer even the “Grim Sleeper” suspect, who is charged with killing 10 women over a 22-year period, was allowed on the roof last Monday while Murray was not, Wass said.

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LAPD detectives and District Attorney Steve Cooley may be sure they have their guy, but the trial of suspected L.A.Grim Sleeper serial killer Lonnie Franklin, Jr. -- who is accused of killing over 10 black women over three decades, many of them prostitues, and was recently linked to eight more missing persons -- is moving slow as molasses through what victims' families see as the perhaps too thorough Superior Court system.

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Grim Sleeper Serial-Killer Trial Delayed Until August, Because 'Everyone Gets Due Process' - Los Angeles News - The Informer (http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/06/grim_sleeper_serial_killer_trial_delayed.php)

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Prosecutors to seek death in ‘Grim Sleeper’ trial

By The Associated Press Wednesday, June 20, 2012
LOS ANGELES — Prosecutors said Monday they will seek the death penalty against a man accused of the “Grim Sleeper” serial killings of prostitutes and other women who were shot, strangled or both over several decades in Los Angeles.
The announcement came as capital punishment is coming under increasing fire in California for lengthy delays in executions and for the expenses involved in winning cases, fighting appeals and keeping inmates on death row.
Deputy District Attorney Beth Silverman told a court her office will ask a jury for the state’s harshest sentence if 58-year-old Lonnie Franklin Jr. is convicted.
Franklin has pleaded not guilty to the murders of 10 women and one count of attempted murder.
Most of the victims linked to the “Grim Sleeper” were found in alleyways within a few miles of Franklin’s home south of downtown Los Angeles. Those victims were killed after some kind of sexual contact.
The killings got their name because of a long gap between some of the deaths, which began in the 1980s and extended into the 2000s.
Franklin, a mechanic, was arrested in July 2010 and indicted.
Police have also been investigating him in connection with other murders.
Prosecutors were granted the right to take a voice sample from Franklin. Outside court, they said they want to compare it to the voice heard on two 911 calls.
Detective Dennis Kilcoyne spoke to a group of relatives of victims at the courthouse and said the death penalty is “almost a non-issue” in California because it takes so long for convicts to be executed.
“In 20 to 25 years, when it comes up, many of us won’t be on this planet anymore,” he said.
Last month, a state Senate bill that seeks to abolish California’s death penalty advanced after its first legislative hearing in the Assembly. Now awaiting action in a committee, the bill would put the question before voters in 2012 if it is passed.
A recent study by a federal appellate judge and a university law professor found California taxpayers spend $184 million annually to try death penalty cases, defend the state through appeals and incarcerate condemned inmates. Most of the 714 condemned inmates on the nation’s most populous death row are more likely to die of old age than lethal injection, the study found.
The researchers calculated that capital punishment has cost California $4 billion since it was reinstated 34 years ago, yet just 13 inmates have been executed — none in the past five years.
Prosecutors to seek death in ‘Grim Sleeper’ trial | Daily Republic (http://www.dailyrepublic.com/usworld/prosecutors-to-seek-death-in-grim-sleeper-trial/)

So June 25, or MJ's 'death' anniversary, they will try to get the death penalty for the Grim Sleeper?  Amazing coincidence! And he and Murray are in the same jail.  I don't know what to make of this.  Franklin's not even 100% convicted is he?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on June 20, 2012, 04:33:11 PM
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So now he's playing a word of the day game with other inmates?? I thought he was supposed to be kept away from other inmates :suspect: Did that change? Maybe I missed something  :animal0017:

Yes it did change, because in November he was a "keep away prisoner" in the medical ward. Probably only while he was being processed.  

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Dr. Conrad Murray is currently being held in the medical ward at the L.A. County Men's Central Jail -- but it's NOT because there's anything wrong with him ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement tells us ... Murray has been assigned to the medical ward while he's being processed -- as opposed to the regular holding area.

We're told the medical ward has a "higher density of deputies" -- which means it's easier for officers to keep an eye on a high profile prisoner like Murray when he's in the M.W.

As we previously reported, Murray has been deemed a "keep away prisoner" -- which means officials must keep an eye on the doc at all times, as a matter of his own protection.

There are several reports that Murray is on suicide watch -- but officials at the jail tell us those reports are incorrect.
 
Conrad Murray -- Extra Protection at the Jail Medical Ward | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/08/conrad-murray-suicide-watch-medical-ward/)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on June 20, 2012, 04:41:55 PM
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"I may not make it out of here alive. This is a very dangerous place. I'm in here dying. The system is intent on killing me."
 

When I read this article, I keep thinking about the inhumane prison conditions and MLK's quote:  
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"The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice."

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Continuing the Fight for Civil Rights and Prisoners' Rights
By David Fathi, National Prison Project at 3:46pm
In the United States, the freedom struggle of Black people and the struggle for prisoners' rights have long been intertwined. After the abolition of slavery, incarceration combined with forced labor was used as a means of continued control of the newly freed Black population in the southern states, re-creating the brutal exploitation that had purportedly been abolished by the 13th Amendment. Prisoners were leased out to work for private employers; conditions were horrific and death rates shockingly high. Sometimes characterized as "worse than slavery," the convict lease system persisted into the 20th century, and ending it was a priority for the NAACP and other civil rights organizations.

 
David Fathi is the Director of the American Civil Liberties Union National Prison Project, which brings challenges to conditions of confinement in prisons, jails, and other detention facilities and works to end US overreliance on incarceration. From 2007 to 2010 he was Director of the US Program at Human Rights Watch, which works to defend the rights of particularly vulnerable groups in the United States.
In September 1971, at Attica Correctional Facility in New York, hundreds of prisoners rebelled and occupied the prison, demanding an end to abusive and inhumane conditions. Although Black, Latino, and white prisoners participated in the uprising, it was sparked in part by rampant racial discrimination and race-based abuse of Black prisoners. The Attica rebellion was crushed by police, killing 39 people, but the modern prisoners' rights movement was born, and the following year, the ACLU established the National Prison Project to lead its work in this area.

Much has been accomplished in the intervening 40 years. Overt racial segregation in prisons and jails, once routine, has now largely been eradicated. But no victory ever stays won. In 1995, Garrison Johnson, a Black prisoner in California, sued to challenge a policy of racial segregation in the state's prisons. When the case reached the Supreme Court, the state actually defended its policy, arguing that it had to maintain racial segregation as a security measure, and that the Court should defer to its decision to do so. Fortunately the Court rejected this invitation to return to the bad old days of Jim Crow, and ruled that classifying prisoners by race is permissible only if the state can show that doing so is "narrowly tailored to serve a compelling state interest" – a showing no state has been able to make.

Today a major focus of the National Prison Project's work is reversing the misguided policies that have given the United States the largest prison population in the world, both per capita and in absolute numbers. We continue to fight for safe, humane, and decent conditions for the 2.3 million people behind bars. And we are challenging new forms of discrimination, like the Alabama policy that segregates prisoners living with HIV, requires them to wear armbands advertising their HIV status, and bars them from prison jobs, work release, and other important rehabilitative programs.

As we celebrate Black History Month 2012, there is cause for optimism and hope. After nearly 40 years of relentless growth, the U.S. prison population actually declined last year. And while the burden of mass incarceration still falls with crushing disproportionality on Black people, their rate of incarceration has decreased for the last two years.

Martin Luther King Jr. taught us that "the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice." That's true in the struggle for civil rights, and equally true in the struggle for prisoners' rights.
 
http://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice-criminal-law-reform/continuing-fight-civil-rights-and-prisoners-rights

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: blankie on June 20, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
I think.... :suspect: .... Murray is a character now famous.... :icon_rolleyes:  have always said us he is  super protected....to prevent something happening   :icon_rolleyes: ...and now he is sick and no one will care.... :icon_rolleyes:...mmmmhhh for me is all very strange ...  :suspect:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: anewfan on June 20, 2012, 09:05:04 PM
leilani....moldy is not spelled with a u in the US. Also...to answer your question as to why people use "u" for the word "you". It's because of texting. It's actually forming really bad habits. I had a student that constantly wrote "u" instead of "you" this school year. I of course made her change it each time she wrote it that way.

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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Rather a MoUldy cell than a MoUldy cake, at least the cell can't cause anything explosive.

Wonder if Latoya's twitter and the U has anything to do with the missing u from mouldy? 

awww no emoticon with a magnifying glass :P

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La Toya Jackson‏@latoyajackson

GM Guys! ThankU so much 4 the Get Well Wishes! Its so nice 2know that Ucare! It worked! Spreading love is contagious! Let's B contagious
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: bugsy on June 20, 2012, 10:19:56 PM
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leilani....moldy is not spelled with a u in the US. Also...to answer your question as to why people use "u" for the word "you". It's because of texting. It's actually forming really bad habits. I had a student that constantly wrote "u" instead of "you" this school year. I of course made her change it each time she wrote it that way.

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"doctor suspects his moldy cell is making him sick"
it seems that he has hard times there...or not. this article is just too unbelievable to be real.. :icon_cool:

Rather a MoUldy cell than a MoUldy cake, at least the cell can't cause anything explosive.

Wonder if Latoya's twitter and the U has anything to do with the missing u from mouldy? 

awww no emoticon with a magnifying glass :P

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La Toya Jackson‏@latoyajackson

GM Guys! ThankU so much 4 the Get Well Wishes! Its so nice 2know that Ucare! It worked! Spreading love is contagious! Let's B contagious



Thank you for the time in giving me this great explanation.

In the dictionary (american one) I searched for  mouldy to make sure and it did indeed some up with a U included so that's where i thought it was spelt wrong, also comes up underlined when copied.

About Latoya's tweet, I understand the common use of the letter U as a shortened way when reducing characters being used but I was confused about the Stomach flu and the U, I think I misunderstood that being a reference to the U, I just thought the U looked out of place in her recent tweets, but after seeing the Captial letter pattern in earlier tweets, I realised she used Captials when she was shortening her words to the one character I noticed she did it with B U R N and haven't found anymore so I think I just mis placed the connection it was nothing but a conincidence.
And also about Mouldy, ooops. well It was interesting at the time to think it was something which is the fun part
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 20, 2012, 11:31:50 PM
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6/18/2012 12:55 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
DR. CONRAD MURRAY
Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/17/0615-conrad-murray-tmz-1.jpg)

Dr. Conrad Murray is pulling a Floyd Mayweather Jr. -- pleading with a judge to spring him from L.A. County Jail because it's taking an extreme physical toll on his body ... and if he doesn't get help soon, Murray believes he'll DIE behind bars.

But here's the crazy thing -- unlike Mayweather, Murray's not asking for house arrest (he knows that will never happen) ... Murray's asking to be sent to PRISON, where he believes he'll get better care.

Murray's lawyer tells TMZ, he wants to serve out his time in the big house because he's being treated like filth in L.A. County jail -- getting fresh air once a month, and fresh underwear once a WEEK.

As a result of the alleged deprivation, we're told Murray's health is failing -- his hair, nails, and skin are gnarly  ... and he's been suffering from a constant headache over the last few weeks.

Murray says he's never gotten headaches in the past -- and is worried it might be a brain tumor.

We're told Murray asked to see a doctor, but got shuffled around and has received no medical attention.

Murray told his attorney, Valerie Wass, "I may not make it out of here alive. This is a very dangerous place. I'm in here dying. The system is intent on killing me."

A rep for the L.A. County Sheriff's Department tells us, the department doesn't comment on pending cases.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/18/dr-conrad-murray-jail-dying-prison/#comments-fullwrapper (http://www.tmz.com/2012/06/18/dr-conrad-murray-jail-dying-prison/#comments-fullwrapper)

ah.. this is all an act. i don't believe it. i won't believe it until i see it. and being that i still think the whole trial was fake..i won't believe this. but i will continue to beLIEve that mj's still alive.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: msgitm on June 21, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
If the trial was fake, do you really think he's in jail or prison?  I think not.  Just my opinion of course... 
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on June 21, 2012, 02:05:38 AM
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So now he's playing a word of the day game with other inmates?? I thought he was supposed to be kept away from other inmates :suspect: Did that change? Maybe I missed something  :animal0017:

Yes it did change, because in November he was a "keep away prisoner" in the medical ward. Probably only while he was being processed.  

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Dr. Conrad Murray is currently being held in the medical ward at the L.A. County Men's Central Jail -- but it's NOT because there's anything wrong with him ... TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement tells us ... Murray has been assigned to the medical ward while he's being processed -- as opposed to the regular holding area.

We're told the medical ward has a "higher density of deputies" -- which means it's easier for officers to keep an eye on a high profile prisoner like Murray when he's in the M.W.

As we previously reported, Murray has been deemed a "keep away prisoner" -- which means officials must keep an eye on the doc at all times, as a matter of his own protection.

There are several reports that Murray is on suicide watch -- but officials at the jail tell us those reports are incorrect.
 
Conrad Murray -- Extra Protection at the Jail Medical Ward | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/08/conrad-murray-suicide-watch-medical-ward/)
Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I never payed attention to the "while he's being processed" part.

Although I'm not really convinced he's in jail in the first place.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MJonmind on June 21, 2012, 03:20:06 AM
Everlastinglove_MJ quoted
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Today a major focus of the National Prison Project's work is reversing the misguided policies that have given the United States the largest prison population in the world, both per capita and in absolute numbers. We continue to fight for safe, humane, and decent conditions for the 2.3 million people behind bars. And we are challenging new forms of discrimination, like the Alabama policy that segregates prisoners living with HIV, requires them to wear armbands advertising their HIV status, and bars them from prison jobs, work release, and other important rehabilitative programs.

As we celebrate Black History Month 2012, there is cause for optimism and hope. After nearly 40 years of relentless growth, the U.S. prison population actually declined last year. And while the burden of mass incarceration still falls with crushing disproportionality on Black people, their rate of incarceration has decreased for the last two years.

Martin Luther King Jr. taught us that "the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice." That's true in the struggle for civil rights, and equally true in the struggle for prisoners' rights.
 Continuing the Fight for Civil Rights and Prisoners' Rights (http://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice-criminal-law-reform/continuing-fight-civil-rights-and-prisoners-rights)

Yes, Everlasting, there is something so wrong with this picture.  I think MJ is accomplishing something profound with his hoax. He is touching all people groups, ages, cultures, free or in prisons. When he means to heal the world, he’s not leaving out those behind bars. 'Murray' perhaps is bringing prison conditions to the public’s attention, particularly from an oppressed/prejudiced against-- black man’s perspective.

Remember these? I wonder how MJ's music has affected these prisoners' hearts?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZC6JuTlOVM[/youtube]

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For American prisoners, huge numbers of whom are serving sentences much longer than those given for similar crimes anywhere else in the civilized world—Texas alone has sentenced more than four hundred teen-agers to life imprisonment—time becomes in every sense this thing you serve.

For most privileged, professional people, the experience of confinement is a mere brush, encountered after a kid’s arrest, say. For a great many poor people in America, particularly poor black men, prison is a destination that braids through an ordinary life, much as high school and college do for rich white ones. More than half of all black men without a high-school diploma go to prison at some time in their lives. Mass incarceration on a scale almost unexampled in human history is a fundamental fact of our country today—perhaps the fundamental fact, as slavery was the fundamental fact of 1850. In truth, there are more black men in the grip of the criminal-justice system—in prison, on probation, or on parole—than were in slavery then. Over all, there are now more people under “correctional supervision” in America—more than six million—than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height. That city of the confined and the controlled, Lockuptown, is now the second largest in the United States…

The accelerating rate of incarceration over the past few decades is just as startling as the number of people jailed: in 1980, there were about two hundred and twenty people incarcerated for every hundred thousand Americans; by 2010, the number had more than tripled, to seven hundred and thirty-one. No other country even approaches that. In the past two decades, the money that states spend on prisons has risen at six times the rate of spending on higher education…

Prison rape is so endemic—more than seventy thousand prisoners are raped each year—that it is routinely held out as a threat, part of the punishment to be expected.
Mass Incarceration and Criminal Justice in America : The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2012/01/30/120130crat_atlarge_gopnik)

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Since 1980, California has developed a bloated prison population for two key reasons. First, the state's punitive sentencing policies such as "three strikes and you're out" have produced such bizarre outcomes as an offender serving 25 years to life for stealing three golf clubs. And second, California leads the nation in sending offenders back to prison for violations of parole, many for technical reasons, such as failing a drug test, rather than a new crime.

The court's ruling will not result in the release of any offender who represents an immediate threat to public safety. But because 95% of inmates will eventually be released from prison, the key issue centers on use of resources. That is, should the state continue to spend $48,000 a year to imprison a low-level drug offender or provide treatment in the community at far less cost?

Public safety requires that we focus on how best to integrate offenders as they return home. This means assistance in securing work, housing and a positive peer group.

Likewise, state officials need to develop alternative measures to respond to offenders who violate the conditions of their parole. In recent years, the states of Kansas and Michigan successfully reduced the number of people sent back to prison by enhancing services and supervision in the community. Targeted drug testing and drug treatment, as well as expanded job placement services, can effectively limit prison populations and reduce recidivism.

Will some of the inmates released from California prisons re-offend upon their release? Of course. But that's already the case despite massive amounts of money spent on incarceration. The challenge now — and the opportunity — is to shift resources to produce better public safety outcomes for all.

The billions of tax dollars that can be saved by reducing prison populations can be better targeted for public safety by equipping released offenders with the tools and connections they need to lead productive lives in their communities.
Opposing view: Reduce prison populations - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2011-05-24-Reduce-prison-populations_n.htm)


Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: emulik on June 21, 2012, 03:29:35 AM
@Everlastinglove and MJonmind...thank you for bringing those interesting informations! good searching skills girls!  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: MaryK on June 21, 2012, 03:42:07 AM
Agree. Very interesting MJonmind.

Here´s an article about a guy who REALLY died in LA county jail:

LA County jail under investigation after sudden inmate death | abc7.com (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8384166)

Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Andrea on June 21, 2012, 08:08:36 AM
Thanks for posting those articles MJonmind.  I remember reading an article a couple years ago, talking about how there are more young black men in jail than in college, in the U.S.  It was also talking about the "3 strikes and you're out" rule, where if you screw up a 3rd time, you're in jail for a ridiculous amount of time, like 20-25 years, something like that.  It seems like they just re-classified slavery, doing it "legally".  They don't give these people a chance and get basically free labour for years and years.  It's totally messed up.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 21, 2012, 11:56:03 AM
nope i don't think he's really in jail either.that's just based off of what i've been observing. so basically, nope, i don't believe that the trial was real, and that he's  really in jail. if he is, then ok.. but  these are just my beliefs. i'm not saying that it's true, but alot of things didn't seem right about that trial.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: bec on June 21, 2012, 12:49:54 PM
I don't think the trial was real either. I believe it was a stage production. Hoax court.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Andrea on June 21, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
From hoax court to...hoax jail?  Murray landed on "Go To Jail" and is now trying to get his "Get Out of Jail Free" card... These random thoughts remind me of back's "roll the dice" post.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: RK on June 21, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
Found this interesting...... ties between music industry and american prison system.
"The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation" | Hip Hop Is Read (http://www.hiphopisread.com/2012/04/secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music.html)

Hello,

After more than 20 years, I've finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I've simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren't ready for.

Between the late 80's and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn't seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn't find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn’t know what a private prison was but I wasn't the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions. He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice. He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we’d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn't dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside. My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences. We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, “It’s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.” He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.

A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me. I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I'd like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn't talk or call anyone that night. The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the 3 others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn't remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I’d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn't willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were? I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn’t uncover anything about the music business’ involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.

As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves. Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies when more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line. Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.

I officially quit the music business in 1993 but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a “quiet” life away from the world of entertainment. As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, having the internet as a resource which wasn't at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex. Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration. Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they’ve been used for the past 2 decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible. Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.

Thank you.
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Post by: bec on June 21, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
Wow.

Two things, one I could see this happening, it sure seems to make sense. The other, I can't see a meeting happening like this. Hearing that is shocking and why would anyone even need to mention this private prison conspiracy to these lowly music industry execs? All they would need to be told is Hi, we want you to promote Gangster Rap music. It's the next big thing and we really want you to focus on it and sell it, and it would be done. Music industry execs like the person who wrote this letter do what they're paid to do and if they get paid to promote Gangster Rap, they promote Gangster Rap. No reason WHY needs to be given and especially not as shocking and confidential that reason is... it makes me question the validity of the whole story.

Even though it sure seems that's exactly the motive behind the music, fill the prisons in America with young black and latino men.  Make it "cool" to be a criminal, get them in the system, and teach them to be career criminals while you're at it.
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Post by: curls on June 22, 2012, 01:42:13 AM
Sometimes I feel like a different species. How depressing.
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Post by: MJonmind on June 22, 2012, 04:28:48 AM
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Wow.

Two things, one I could see this happening, it sure seems to make sense. The other, I can't see a meeting happening like this. Hearing that is shocking and why would anyone even need to mention this private prison conspiracy to these lowly music industry execs? All they would need to be told is Hi, we want you to promote Gangster Rap music. It's the next big thing and we really want you to focus on it and sell it, and it would be done. Music industry execs like the person who wrote this letter do what they're paid to do and if they get paid to promote Gangster Rap, they promote Gangster Rap. No reason WHY needs to be given and especially not as shocking and confidential that reason is... it makes me question the validity of the whole story.

Even though it sure seems that's exactly the motive behind the music, fill the prisons in America with young black and latino men.  Make it "cool" to be a criminal, get them in the system, and teach them to be career criminals while you're at it.
Yes, it's an interesting story, but I agree there's no way the higher level needed to inform the lower ones of that shocking stuff. Just promote gangsta rap.  Then perhaps certain individuals that are seen as eager promoters could be told more slowly in trust.

In the past I've heard Christians say that rap is promoted by the satanic music industry to lower morality and turn people away from God. Certainly I've not heard anything about filling up prisons with black men, for making profit. This reminds me of what I read about kiwis, that New Zealand had the highest incarceration rate in the world for marijuana usage. There's something so strange about police expending so much time and energy on the war on drugs, throwing millions in prison, making them criminals.  In a smaller way it reminds me of in my own city, the traffic light cameras weren't making enough money for the city, so now police sit in various places and will nab people giving them tickets to fulfill their quota of having to make a certain amount of money a day/week for the city.  We call it another tax on the people.
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 22, 2012, 04:44:50 AM
i know this is going off topic, but no word of a lie 6 years ago i was booked in sydney australia for 'eating an apple whilst driving'

i did take the opportunity to ask the officer if he was struggling to meet his KPI's. (key performance indicator, performance measuring) He commented that eating whist at the wheel was illegal.

 :errrr: :errrr: :errrr:

err....
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Post by: Chicana on June 22, 2012, 12:50:11 PM
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I don't think the trial was real either. I believe it was a stage production. Hoax court.

yep. exactly what i think it was. and i'm sticking to it.  :judge-smiley:
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Post by: emulik on June 22, 2012, 01:53:46 PM
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I don't think the trial was real either. I believe it was a stage production. Hoax court.

yep. exactly what i think it was. and i'm sticking to it.  :judge-smiley:
staged with Mr.Pumpkin  :icon_razz:
what about planning trial in September? do you think it will happen?
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 22, 2012, 01:58:03 PM
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Sometimes I feel like a different species. How depressing.
:-\
me too
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Post by: MJonmind on June 22, 2012, 01:58:13 PM
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i know this is going off topic, but no word of a lie 6 years ago i was booked in sydney australia for 'eating an apple whilst driving'

i did take the opportunity to ask the officer if he was struggling to meet his KPI's. (key performance indicator, performance measuring) He commented that eating whist at the wheel was illegal.

 :errrr: :errrr: :errrr:

err....
:icon_lol:  Then what would that officer have done with Mr. Bean here at 3:30?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VumrpkL6RS0[/youtube]

Okay (slaps face) back to Murray in jail (not).  :)
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Post by: emulik on June 22, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
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i know this is going off topic, but no word of a lie 6 years ago i was booked in sydney australia for 'eating an apple whilst driving'

i did take the opportunity to ask the officer if he was struggling to meet his KPI's. (key performance indicator, performance measuring) He commented that eating whist at the wheel was illegal.

 :errrr: :errrr: :errrr:

err....

 :icon_lol:  Then what would that officer have done with Mr. Bean here at 3:30?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VumrpkL6RS0[/youtube]

Okay (slaps face) back to Murray in jail (not).  :)
thank you MJonmind for the "inspirative" video, but better do not try it  :icon_lol:
I love this dentist part!
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Post by: mrbigshot on June 22, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
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Wow.

Two things, one I could see this happening, it sure seems to make sense. The other, I can't see a meeting happening like this. Hearing that is shocking and why would anyone even need to mention this private prison conspiracy to these lowly music industry execs? All they would need to be told is Hi, we want you to promote Gangster Rap music. It's the next big thing and we really want you to focus on it and sell it, and it would be done. Music industry execs like the person who wrote this letter do what they're paid to do and if they get paid to promote Gangster Rap, they promote Gangster Rap. No reason WHY needs to be given and especially not as shocking and confidential that reason is... it makes me question the validity of the whole story.

Even though it sure seems that's exactly the motive behind the music, fill the prisons in America with young black and latino men.  Make it "cool" to be a criminal, get them in the system, and teach them to be career criminals while you're at it.
Yes, it's an interesting story, but I agree there's no way the higher level needed to inform the lower ones of that shocking stuff. Just promote gangsta rap.  Then perhaps certain individuals that are seen as eager promoters could be told more slowly in trust.

In the past I've heard Christians say that rap is promoted by the satanic music industry to lower morality and turn people away from God. Certainly I've not heard anything about filling up prisons with black men, for making profit. This reminds me of what I read about kiwis, that New Zealand had the highest incarceration rate in the world for marijuana usage. There's something so strange about police expending so much time and energy on the war on drugs, throwing millions in prison, making them criminals.  In a smaller way it reminds me of in my own city, the traffic light cameras weren't making enough money for the city, so now police sit in various places and will nab people giving them tickets to fulfill their quota of having to make a certain amount of money a day/week for the city.  We call it another tax on the people.

Yeah, and the irony of it is, the church employs such an emphatic philosophy ascertained by these extremists who advocate for anti-rap and the elimination of such genre from society.  I frankly find it radically fallacious. Why? simply due to the fact that from a religious perspective, it is not the message of god to perpetuate such profound confrontations between a form of musical expression and church. I'm a pretty defiant liberal, so I tend to sway towards anti-censorship (as many of you would agree, and michael too of course)  but the message of the church, whatever the subject, is to love without passing judgment. Music is a visceral form of craftsmanship that is intrinsically unique to the artists which governs that medium. the embodiment of work encompasses passion, creolization, and diligence. To ignorantly remark rap as "devil's music" is disrespecting the history of music that so many artists put their heart into. But yet, there are people who promote hostility towards this and are therefore being extremely hypocritical. the point is, love is infinitely universal, and it travels beyond boundaries. we have a right to self expression and individualism. AS for the incarceration issue, it's been going on for years. innocent people have always been convicted and put behind bars, and it revolves around the foundation of profit and money making.  The only true reason why there is such extensive regulation of Marijuana usage is because it is falsely deemed hazardous and even fatal by the government. Scare tactics are essentially what they are, and while it may seem a little volatile and heinous, marijuana does not result in the deaths of many people. in fact, it's great for business. if it were legalized here in the states, the economy would be vastly improved. Of course, I don't engage in that activity myself, but it is simply a business. if I were Obama, I think I would have to acknowledge that prohibition is NEVER solves anything. it  manifests tension, and empowers the corrupt. in the 1920's when alcoholism was illegal, crime rates increased. Even worse is that because of prohibition, drug wars are constantly going on. the mexican cartel murder people (young children ): ) as a result of marijuana prohibition. perhaps all these restrictions and regulations are occurring because the government in new zealand wants to sustain superiority or control within that country. But to say the least, it is important that we are entitled to our freedoms and liberties. freedom of expression, freedom of the ability to challenge authority, and many other. So to alleviate some hate, maybe we should just make Marijuana legal in English speaking countries with an age limit of 21 like they do with alcoholism.  We need to stop deliberately controlling what is good or bad for people (I.E rap is the devil) becuase that isn't an america we've come to known. it isn't freedom unless we have our say and are emotionally manipulated until we are scared not to commit to such acts. We are conditioned with fear so that we are not to accomplish something. that is not freedom. that is mental imprisonment, which is far worse.
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Post by: blankie on June 22, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
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I don't think the trial was real either. I believe it was a stage production. Hoax court.

Totally agree  :icon_razz:...It's a film.... :michael-jackson: :icon_e_wink:
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 22, 2012, 07:09:09 PM
definitely a fake court. how can a real trial be carried out on a fake death.

no one gets sent to jail for an "alleged" manslaughter.... victim is either dead or he isnt. how can someone be "allegedly dead" and yet another person be sentanced for it.. "alleged" denotes inconclusive.

fake death! fake trial! fake sentence!  :th_bravo:


Alleged..... pffft.  :thjajaja121:


my personal opinion, was that when MJ BAMs and the hoax is brought to the surface, "some will be up in arms and feel mislead" they will then point to things like the funeral, memorial, trial, etc. and say "what about this..." and "what about that..."

the jacksons will then be able to say, did you notice "the word alleged" "the jackolanterns" "the camera crew with the word "crew" on their back, the "elephants in the room" and on and on and on.

the WHOLE thing in its entirety is a stage production. not just the death. all of it combined.


cant wait til the movie comes out :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:!!!
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Post by: Chicana on June 22, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
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I don't think the trial was real either. I believe it was a stage production. Hoax court.

yep. exactly what i think it was. and i'm sticking to it.  :judge-smiley:
staged with Mr.Pumpkin  :icon_razz:
what about planning trial in September? do you think it will happen?

idk. i just don't think that the trial was real. what planning trial? if there is one, it might be as fake as that one. but whatever. we'll see what happens.
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Post by: curls on June 23, 2012, 12:55:43 AM
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the WHOLE thing in its entirety is a stage production. not just the death. all of it combined.


cant wait til the movie comes out :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:!!!

I'm not so sure there's gonna be a movie - I think we could well be LIVING it right now, in a once only, never to be repeated real-time production. But what do I know?!
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 23, 2012, 01:21:07 AM
im not 100% sure on it either? its was kind of off the cuff. my imagination and heart says there will be a movie. i'd love to see the hoax end like that. but my head thinks, hmmm... not sure about a movie.

but entertain me, imagine though what a movie would accomplish? "mj, explaining the why. the when it started. who helped. "how we did this and how we did that. and while we were saying and doing that, this is what you (media and public) percieved and this is what the world concluded based on our stunts"

it would be such an amazing lesson to all to QUESTION everything.

but then again an illusionist never reveals their methods... so it may never happen.


i just WANT michael to be completely vindicated. i WANT the world to know that they were wrong about him. i WANT the world to know how amazing, talanted and innovative he is. i WANT the haters to have egg on their faces. i WANT people to point fingers and say "you cant do that" and i WANT michael to say "i can and i did and here i am"

i WANT fulfilment of "In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you"

i WANT this hoax to end properly, and the hype to not just dwindle out because believers are tired. i WANT and i hope with all my heart, that a bam, if it happens isnt just a sighting, i hope to god its an explanation.

i think THAT will shock the world more than a sighting or a statement...

why leave clues and why create this magnificent piece of work (the hoax) if its all not coming to some amazing crusendo??


maybe i WANT to much..

#perplexed....   :Pulling_hair:



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Post by: bec on June 23, 2012, 01:41:41 AM
omg Amen Aussie, Amen!

@Bigshot, you were always wise beyond your years.

@curls, agree, Thriller II is playing now.
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Post by: curls on June 23, 2012, 02:03:05 AM
Oh I'm pretty sure there'll be an amazing crescendo.  This won't fizzle out with a random sighting!  I just don't think we'll have to go to the cinema to witness it. I want the same things you want Aussie - number one being I want everyone to stop believing MJ is weird and give him the respect and admiration he deserves.

I have an idea the 'explantion' we want has already been prepared and is nearer to hand than most realise.  But again, I know nothing!

Anyway, what thread is this? How did we get to this subject?  Oh yes, Murray's dying in jail - except he isn't anymore since he got clean un-dies, a blanket and time on the roof!
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Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 23, 2012, 02:25:31 AM
@ bec - btw. "movie convert" - settled. (you'll recall you and i discussed this a few months ago) its the 'why' i am still seeking assurance on... but feel most comfortable with movie theory (at present)


@ curls. yepper - fake conrad, has his fake, undies changed in his fake jail, whilst serving a fake sentance after his fake trial...



meanwhile, speaking of movies quickly before we get back to murry / fake jail. imagine, if there were a movie released but it was the reverse. we were the stars not MJ. MJ was the director. and its not about the hoax hows, whys, who's, when's, but its about a group of people (the world) who believed thei own untrue reality based on false perception of events and based on lies from feeders (media)... and MJ plays it back to us and we (the world) watch ourselves blindly follow and not question and ultimately are duped into adopting an untruth.  :affraid:


ok.. i'm getting way too carried away with this. its saturday night and time to get ready to go out. see ya on the flip side! peace out  :icon_mrgreen:



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Post by: Loveunited on June 23, 2012, 08:00:41 AM
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the WHOLE thing in its entirety is a stage production. not just the death. all of it combined.


cant wait til the movie comes out :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:!!!

I'm not so sure there's gonna be a movie - I think we could well be LIVING it right now, in a once only, never to be repeated real-time production. But what do I know?!


Agree, best movie EVER!
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Post by: MaryK on June 23, 2012, 08:47:58 AM
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@ bec - btw. "movie convert" - settled. (you'll recall you and i discussed this a few months ago) its the 'why' i am still seeking assurance on... but feel most comfortable with movie theory (at present)


@ curls. yepper - fake conrad, has his fake, undies changed in his fake jail, whilst serving a fake sentance after his fake trial...



meanwhile, speaking of movies quickly before we get back to murry / fake jail. imagine, if there were a movie released but it was the reverse. we were the stars not MJ. MJ was the director. and its not about the hoax hows, whys, who's, when's, but its about a group of people (the world) who believed thei own untrue reality based on false perception of events and based on lies from feeders (media)... and MJ plays it back to us and we (the world) watch ourselves blindly follow and not question and ultimately are duped into adopting an untruth.  :affraid:


ok.. i'm getting way too carried away with this. its saturday night and time to get ready to go out. see ya on the flip side! peace out  :icon_mrgreen:

That´s what I keep saying: The Truman Show reversed  :icon_e_wink:
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Post by: SimPattyK on June 23, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
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im not 100% sure on it either? its was kind of off the cuff. my imagination and heart says there will be a movie. i'd love to see the hoax end like that. but my head thinks, hmmm... not sure about a movie.

but entertain me, imagine though what a movie would accomplish? "mj, explaining the why. the when it started. who helped. "how we did this and how we did that. and while we were saying and doing that, this is what you (media and public) percieved and this is what the world concluded based on our stunts"

it would be such an amazing lesson to all to QUESTION everything.
[...]
why leave clues and why create this magnificent piece of work (the hoax) if its all not coming to some amazing crusendo??

I responded to this ^^ here: 7 Layers of 7 Things Outline (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22506.new#new)
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Post by: Chicana on June 23, 2012, 06:42:27 PM
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im not 100% sure on it either? its was kind of off the cuff. my imagination and heart says there will be a movie. i'd love to see the hoax end like that. but my head thinks, hmmm... not sure about a movie.

but entertain me, imagine though what a movie would accomplish? "mj, explaining the why. the when it started. who helped. "how we did this and how we did that. and while we were saying and doing that, this is what you (media and public) percieved and this is what the world concluded based on our stunts"

it would be such an amazing lesson to all to QUESTION everything.

but then again an illusionist never reveals their methods... so it may never happen.


i just WANT michael to be completely vindicated. i WANT the world to know that they were wrong about him. i WANT the world to know how amazing, talanted and innovative he is. i WANT the haters to have egg on their faces. i WANT people to point fingers and say "you cant do that" and i WANT michael to say "i can and i did and here i am"

i WANT fulfilment of "In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you"

i WANT this hoax to end properly, and the hype to not just dwindle out because believers are tired. i WANT and i hope with all my heart, that a bam, if it happens isnt just a sighting, i hope to god its an explanation.

i think THAT will shock the world more than a sighting or a statement...

why leave clues and why create this magnificent piece of work (the hoax) if its all not coming to some amazing crusendo??


maybe i WANT to much..

#perplexed....   :Pulling_hair:

wow you said alot. well.. yeah i am ready for the hoax to end too. i want to put it in people's faces so that i can say YEAH!!! I TOLD YOU HE WASN'T DEAD! there are alot of none beLIEvers out there and it's time to prove them wrong. everyday.. i'm anticipating his return. too many clues..just way too many clues. :abouttime:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 23, 2012, 09:56:23 PM
i want michaels name vindicated more than i want to wave it in peoples faces about me being right about hoax. i want revenge on the media and them to be laughed at. i want them to be the subject of riddicule, not michael.

but agree with you, 'being right' amonst non believers, family and friends would be icing on the cake!


with love
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 23, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
I don't care about being right. I just want MJ to live 120 years.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 27, 2012, 08:33:33 PM
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i want michaels name vindicated more than i want to wave it in peoples faces about me being right about hoax. i want revenge on the media and them to be laughed at. i want them to be the subject of riddicule, not michael.

but agree with you, 'being right' amonst non believers, family and friends would be icing on the cake!


with love

yeah..that's understandable too. i'd like the same thing as well. but being right about the hoax would be a thumbs up.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 27, 2012, 08:58:53 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuvKWrapCs[/youtube] I watched this video and thought that it was rather interesting. It's discussing that Dr. Conrad Murray's license to be a medical doctor had expired in 2008. He wasn't certified to be a 
internal medicine doctor. in order to be a cardiologist, you must have a license of certification to do internal medicine. so if that's the case, then this leads me to think that MJ hired Dr.Conrad Murray because he knew that he had nothing to loose. His license was expired. I think he hired him just to make it seem as if he was a doctor and if he was found guilty, MJ had already paid him.Whenever we see conrad Murray, he's never in any jail clothes. In that video of him acknowledging MJ's death anniversary, he had on a suit. Well that's just what I think. My opinion. :) Doesn't mean that I think that I'm right, but this is just what I'm getting out of it. And when I watched the documentary, MJ said that he was "the one" and that he hired him. He had a plan. :)

Only my opinion.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
he was also not licenced to practice O/S so had no intention of being MJs physician in London and in addition to this at Carolwood only acted as MJs Physician for less than two weeks.

have a read of some of the old threads, the points you bring up have been discussed thoroughly, and in fact there are entire threads dedicated to CM investigation, you might enjoy them

start off my going to community and scroll down until you see the board that you want.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 27, 2012, 10:03:19 PM
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he was also not licenced to practice O/S so had no intention of being MJs physician in London and in addition to this at Carolwood only acted as MJs Physician for less than two weeks.

have a read of some of the old threads, the points you bring up have been discussed thoroughly, and in fact there are entire threads dedicated to CM investigation, you might enjoy them

start off my going to community and scroll down until you see the board that you want.

ok.. i'll view it later on.but i still have those opinions. like i said, that's just what i'm drawing in from that particular video.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 10:51:50 PM
actually chicana, my last post doesnt suggest that you abandon your opinion.

in fact the comments i made could support the theory that CM is not a doctor but in fact an actor. he has also been spotted as an exrta in the past. there are other things that suggest that he is only playing a role as CM / MJs Physician. You will find this information in the CM board.

the reason i suggested that you check out the CM boards, is various theories, including similar to the one you posted have been discussed at length previously. you might really enjoy reading through those threads.

you might also find that because of the multiple lengthy discussions have already been had on the forum about CM and whether or not he is really a doctor, the subject may not be picked up again or commented on in a lengthy manner so that there isnt a repitition of already discussed theories. so reviewing the CM board might be good so you can read what everyone commented and see other evidences regarding the CM theory you just posed.


hope this clears up what i was trying to suggest to you.

Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 28, 2012, 12:08:34 AM
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actually chicana, my last post doesnt suggest that you abandon your opinion.

in fact the comments i made could support the theory that CM is not a doctor but in fact an actor. he has also been spotted as an exrta in the past. there are other things that suggest that he is only playing a role as CM / MJs Physician. You will find this information in the CM board.

the reason i suggested that you check out the CM boards, is various theories, including similar to the one you posted have been discussed at length previously. you might really enjoy reading through those threads.

you might also find that because of the multiple lengthy discussions have already been had on the forum about CM and whether or not he is really a doctor, the subject may not be picked up again or commented on in a lengthy manner so that there isnt a repitition of already discussed theories. so reviewing the CM board might be good so you can read what everyone commented and see other evidences regarding the CM theory you just posed.


hope this clears up what i was trying to suggest to you.

well i don't expect to have a long lengthy discussion about it. i just posted the video in here because i was in this particular post. i don't really spend much time on forums trying to find particular topics and read all of them because i really don't have the time to sit here and read everything because i'm busy with other things. i see topics, post in the forum post that i'm in if it's about the person that's being discussed and post. but i'll make time one day if at all possible to read some of the things on here, but not all in one day. if it has been discussed already that's fine.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 28, 2012, 12:52:49 AM
oh cool. no worries. i misunderstood, as i thought you were doing thorough investigation of hoax.

 :smiley-vault-misc-150:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray, Help, I'm Dying in Jail!!!
Post by: Chicana on June 28, 2012, 12:58:55 AM
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oh cool. no worries. i misunderstood, as i thought you were doing thorough investigation of hoax.

 :smiley-vault-misc-150:

kay :) :fresse: it's no problem.
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