Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Understanding His Music & (Short) Films => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Leaked & Unreleased Tracks => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on June 15, 2012, 05:24:22 AM

Title: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 15, 2012, 05:24:22 AM
 :) or  ::)  What do you think.  I think the title is extremely appropriate if it is authentic...and the lyrics are relevant..If you just beLIEve is in there too...
Michael Jackson - The Tides Will Turn [NEW SONG] 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I[/youtube]
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 15, 2012, 05:33:42 AM
WoW

great song. 2good2btrue how did you find it. Is it a new release?
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 05:42:46 AM
Hi gals, it's not Michael :(
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 15, 2012, 06:01:33 AM
Well, I believe it's him. What makes you say it's not him sweet?
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 15, 2012, 06:09:15 AM
I think it's Michael too, although I miss that raw edge on the voice that you can hear so clearly in Behind the Mask. This song needs that edge. The song is ok, not really blowing my mind though. Not sure if that's because of the song itself or the production though. Will have to listen to it a few more times.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 06:18:01 AM
Because I am listening to his music from I was small and I know every single tone of his voice, that's not Michael, please Diggyon take your earphones and listen to it if you still say it's Michael I can say you haven't listen too much to Michael's music, sorry I don't want to be disrespectful to you I don't mean to offend you but you could make the exercise of comparing this song to another of Michael's  :icon_e_smile:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Grace on June 15, 2012, 06:31:56 AM
I like that.
The song, the BEP sound modifs, the controversy.
Great.

Here's more songs published by Michael Joseph Jackson channel:
In The Future - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9364319DE927C138&annotation_id=annotation_834331&src_vid=-_ViG6Lo9_w&feature=iv)

Thank you, Michael. Much love back to you.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 15, 2012, 06:42:45 AM
It's okay sweet, and don't worry, I am not offended. I totally respect your opinion. :)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sandythyme on June 15, 2012, 06:53:44 AM
I love the song, I believe it's Michael.  Souza, I know what you are saying about the raw edge.  This seems to be a softer side of Michael, I know I am not explaining myself well.  But I do love the song. I was looking around to see if I could find more info about the song and can't seem to find anything.  Does anyone have any info on this song? I NEED MORE COFFEE!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MaryK on June 15, 2012, 07:08:34 AM
Alright guys....I think it´s Marcus J Williams

Please compare:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOnC1Ea2TM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trku2u_R13c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7taGcm8lg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9OYwJpaKcg[/youtube]
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 15, 2012, 07:20:29 AM
I like it.  If someone sounds that much like Michael, well, I don''t know how I feel about it.  I don't want anybody else to sound just like him. Ever.  But who am I to make that decision? Well, no one of course.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 15, 2012, 07:26:47 AM
I don't like that Williams dude.  I don't like being fooled.  She's Outta My life is MY MICHAEL SONG.  He should NOT be singing it in the tone of Michael Jackson.  SAing his own version for crying out loud.  BTW, that one doesn't sound as strong as the other songs.  I wonder if he's actually singing on them or if it's Michael and he's claiming to be singing.  I don't know.  Help me out guys.  I don't want him to be the voice on that new song.  It's TOO MUCH LIKE THE REAL THING!!!! 
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: TalentedMan on June 15, 2012, 07:28:03 AM
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it's not Michael :(

I agree....it doesnt sound like michael at all.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MaryK on June 15, 2012, 07:35:14 AM
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I don't like that Williams dude.  I don't like being fooled.  She's Outta My life is MY MICHAEL SONG.  He should NOT be singing it in the tone of Michael Jackson.  SAing his own version for crying out loud.  BTW, that one doesn't sound as strong as the other songs.  I wonder if he's actually singing on them or if it's Michael and he's claiming to be singing.  I don't know.  Help me out guys.  I don't want him to be the voice on that new song.  It's TOO MUCH LIKE THE REAL THING!!!!

Regarding She's Outta My Life: Live performances always sound different.
I really believe all of them are Williams.
I know what you are saying concerning someone sounding just like Michael. I don´t like it either but it´s not the first time that this has happend.
It´s annoying. We take offence probably because it seems to diminish the excellence and uniqueness of Michael´s voice.
Which is, in fact, not true! Nobody could ever touch his greatness.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 07:36:25 AM
@Grace.... thank you for your link I really appreciate it.  :bearhug:

@Diggyon.... after listening to Grace's link I can say that on "The tides will return" Michael is not the main singer but he still collaborates on that track like on some of the others tracks, so you are partly right .  :bearhug:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 15, 2012, 07:43:36 AM
Here we go again ...... :Pulling_hair:

How many times did we have to compare Michael's voice with some other singers??? I guess I am getting used to it now. Is it Michael? No, it's not him. Yes, it's him! No way, listen carefully..... and so and so on ! ! This never happened before June 25th, 2009. Now suddenly so many singers sound like Michael Jackson! Is this a coincidence or is it intended ?? I just don't know anymore   :Pulling_hair:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MaryK on June 15, 2012, 07:51:06 AM
More Marcus  :icon_lol:

I think he does a good job.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1FBLCMXmpWI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAkLj3x6G34&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 15, 2012, 07:54:25 AM
...and his middle name would just so happen to be "Joseph".  He's good.  )-:  Go away Marcus.  I'm not ready for any replacement singers yet.  Please sing somebody else.  I know you can.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 15, 2012, 08:05:57 AM
This is definitely Michael...
Michael Jackson - This Place Hotel - Smooth Criminal - Dangerous (Inmortal) | HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShyN0LO1DYI&feature=relmfu)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShyN0LO1DYI&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
Michael Jackson - Get Out Of The Rain (Audio) |HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx5NWWmZqGw&list=PL9364319DE927C138&index=10&feature=plpp_video)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx5NWWmZqGw&list=PL9364319DE927C138&index=10&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]

Michael Jackson - We Be Ballin' - JMC MOB | HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4QXjcJEQE&feature=BFa&list=PL9364319DE927C138)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4QXjcJEQE&feature=BFa&list=PL9364319DE927C138[/youtube]


Michael Joseph Jackson - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelZoneJackson?feature=BF)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 15, 2012, 08:13:13 AM
Is this a new cd that's out for purchase or just some Youtube leaks? 
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Loveunited on June 15, 2012, 08:17:58 AM
You folks are so quick! I am replying to posts a bit ago!

Marcus J Williams.......The video clip of him singing "live" in NYC of She's Outta My Life" isn't live, imo. Synch isn't authentic and microphone distance  from mouth vs sound produced doesn't match.  Supposed to be  June 25 2011.  I  looked up Kininay Producations that supposedly produced that-- result was a potential facebook page that says something like hasn't been entered....yet.

Seems hoaxy to me....Love the "sacred of the moon" track----has this guy been around for awhile or has he just emerged on You Tube?

Okay I'll go back now and try to catch up with other posts I missed...........
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MaryK on June 15, 2012, 08:25:16 AM
Hm....

Marcus is a Norwegian guy as far as I understood.

He started his YouTube channel in 2009

FreddyMcSuper - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/FreddyMcSuper)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
Hey hey hey guys, I don't want you to get crazy, listen in my last post I said it sound like Michael is collaborating in that song because if you listen to "The tides will turn" on Grace's link seems like there are 2 different songs overlaid so in one of those 2 songs Michael is singing so pls. try to listen to it first, but when I listened to the song Diggyon posted again I don't hear any trace of Michael.
Thank you Mary for posting that Marcus. J. Williams video, that evidence that Michael doesn't sing that song.
However in the rest of Grace's link Michael is singing in every song. :icon_geek:

@Mary.... you are a naughty girl, the audience here doesn't like to listen to that Marcus and you posted more of him again  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sandythyme on June 15, 2012, 08:48:57 AM
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Alright guys....I think it´s Marcus J Williams

Please compare:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOnC1Ea2TM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trku2u_R13c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-7taGcm8lg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9OYwJpaKcg[/youtube]

Thanks MaryK, this explains why I couldn't find any info.  Still sounds good  :)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Loveunited on June 15, 2012, 08:58:25 AM
Ak outta time, gotta go to work! :screaming-7365:

I looked up Marcus J Williams live on video and only came up with that Shes Outta My Life tape plus a cute on of rehearsing it -- filmed with track including audience applause at one point...........

Anyway, love the sound! Feel like a circus act; pass the peanuts please, I'll take them to go......!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: AnaMarcia on June 15, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
I loved it! It's Michael, for me.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MaryK on June 15, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
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@Mary.... you are a naughty girl, the audience here doesn't like to listen to that Marcus and you posted more of him again  :icon_lol:

Yeah, didn´t you know already?

(http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/austin_powers_dr_evil.jpg)

 :icon_lol:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 09:18:34 AM
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@Mary.... you are a naughty girl, the audience here doesn't like to listen to that Marcus and you posted more of him again  :icon_lol:

Yeah, didn´t you know already?

(http://www.wildsound-filmmaking-feedback-events.com/images/austin_powers_dr_evil.jpg)

 :icon_lol:

 Yep :LolLolLolLol: :thjajaja121:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: CC on June 15, 2012, 10:22:10 AM
for me sounds like michael but i can´t say much because my ears are not good! lol
the image with the blue eye still pups up, at the beggining of the hoax this picture suposed to be the cover of the album michael remember? i think that maybe is him, i hope it!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 15, 2012, 11:00:52 AM
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it's not Michael :(

I agree....it doesnt sound like michael at all.
Obviously not Michael.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 15, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
May be it's Michael singing trying to sound like someone else, exactly like in his album "Michal" and also like the O2 guy. Well, it's a circus indeed. I wonder when Mr. Bozo is going to appear. I hope there are enough pop corn an peanuts for everyone.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Andrea on June 15, 2012, 05:02:40 PM
Ok I was finally able to listen to it... ahh, I'm undecided!  It does sound like him, but a bit different.  Actually, I do think it's Michael singing, there's enough there that is recognizable and undeniable, in my opinion. 
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 15, 2012, 05:10:10 PM
Oh no - not another Jason Malachi situation.  Thanks for posting this. I will listen when I return after work.

Blessings :)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: blankie on June 15, 2012, 05:14:58 PM
Wonderful song....for me is Michael... :icon_rolleyes: :icon_razz:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: AnaMarcia on June 15, 2012, 06:48:20 PM
Someone had access to the lyrics of this song? If yes, please post here!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: marumjj on June 15, 2012, 07:22:03 PM
 :omg: how easy to fool my ears! But listen carefully and note the effort to appear, does not sound natural, tries to acquire the personality but nooooo
Maryk Thanks!!

 :bearhug:

                   (http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg844/scaled.php?server=844&filename=tequieroms.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: mikeyslittlehoaxer on June 15, 2012, 07:48:28 PM
Wait so Marcus did scared of the moon?  :WTF:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 15, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
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Oh no - not another Jason Malachi situation.  Thanks for posting this. I will listen when I return after work.

Blessings :)

Okay - I just listened to the video and for me I don't believe it's Michael either. It's a good impression but definitely lacks the heart where Michael lives in the song. JMO.

Also listened to the songs on the link provided by Grace - thank you Grace!!! Those are MJ and I could listen to those all day. What is interesting is that one of the songs is from the Michael CD and wasn't it one that people questioned whether it was him? I'm talking about "Keep Your Head Up".

Listened to some of videos that Mary posted and he's good but not as good as the one he's trying to imitate - however, I think Michael would be very proud of him.

This is just my humble opinion and I could be wrong. I'm sure, like everything else, we will one day find out what this is all about.

Blessings
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MJonmind on June 16, 2012, 12:15:25 AM
I agree with obviously not Michael, for - The Tides Will Turn.  When it's Michael, like some of those other songs sited, it's so magical to hear! ;)

It's also not on the list of unreleased songs.
New leaked songs june 2012? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22777.msg409244#msg409244)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 16, 2012, 02:14:39 AM
i think its MJ. for the whole song it doesnt sound like MJ. but what makes me believe its MJ is the line "the deepest of the deepest" for me that's 100% MJ...


but what would i know.... considering all the trouble i am having with the doubles at the moment... lol (especially after thinking for the past year i know what i am on about - having to change my perspective this week - played with me a bit LOL)

LOVE you MJ for this hoax. its the gift that keeps on giving!!

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 16, 2012, 02:24:10 AM
just listened to it again. from 2:40 to the end, JMO but thats pure MJ. i'm 100% sure.

his voice is different to his other work, but not becuase it not him. without understanding music at all, i think it's to do with the ways its rendered / recorded / etc. dont know. but know its MJ.

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 16, 2012, 03:42:47 AM
Hi Aussie, what are you doing home on a Saturday night???  Well, it's 18:30 here in Melbourne...I'm at home with my son, and babysitting my sisters son, so I have time to read the forum tonight.

I've spent more time researching this Marcus Joseph Williams from Norway...coincidently so is Obee !!!  One can dance like Michael, and the other can sing like Michael !!!  Hmmmm.  Same mother maybe !!!

Any how, he only opened up a Facebook account on April 22, 2010....with only 11 followers.  He only sings MJ's songs, even unreleased ones..

He is on VIMEO, and on the MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON website.....http://vimeo.com/user5447916/videos This is his website..

http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=19174752........Gone (http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=19174752........Gone) too soon.

http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=27388409 (http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=27388409)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 16, 2012, 04:03:42 AM

There's absolutely nothing about him prior to 2010...and yes, I know he is only young...but I guess there will be a lot more controversy since MJ has disappeared.

Next idea I have is..........Remember how MJ said he wanted lots of children and from all over the world....could it be another possibility that they are his own children???  Just saying. 

Actually, Marcus does look like a new, rejuvenated version of MJ !!!  Anything is possible???  Turning back the hands of time....reaching for eternal youth !!

Maybe it  is MICHAEL !!!! :icon_e_wink: 
Marcus Joseph Williams (Exact same voice as Michael Jackson) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa66utvQmE)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxa66utvQmE[/youtube]
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 16, 2012, 06:59:04 AM
Okay, here is my theory,
it sounds crazy I know. May be this is all made by Michael to create controversy. In that video 2good2btrue posted this guy sounds exactly like MJ. I have never seen anyone in my life who sounds like another one unless they are twin brothers or relatives. Even those who try to imitate other singers don't sound 100% like them, there is always a slight difference. So may be this guy was lip singing in this video. As 2good mentioned, there is nothing mentioned about him before, so in my opinion he's MJ made. And let's not forget the good old rule: Don't believe what you see. And also: Nothing is as it may seem.

Blessings
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 16, 2012, 08:00:32 AM
Found this on the web..its in Norwegian, but it has been translated...

Before listening to this song: It is NOT Michael Jackson, to trying not to mimic Michael in this song. The song was written by John Carew. Everything is sung by Marcus Joseph from Stadsbygd in. The man is on his way to world fame, without a doubt.

Marcus Joseph Williams (Stian) (http://stian.blogg.no/1335526960_marcus_joseph_william.html)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjwilliams.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/marcus.jpg)

And this is a montage of Omar Bhatti compared to Marcus J. Williams.........I know there both Norwegian, but the eyes say alot...and the ears...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/comparison.jpg)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 16, 2012, 12:31:28 PM
O h   m y    G o d   !    !

Is this a coincidence or what?  :omg:   :omg:   :omg:
No way. Michael has something to do with this. I just can feel it.
He must be now  :michael-jackson: :michael-jackson: :michael-jackson:  :michael-jackson: of entertainment.

Mr. Jackson, please have mercy on our nerves (10th reminder!!!!!)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: AnaMarcia on June 16, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
Okay .. This video was released in April 2012. The original video says it all vocals are sung by Marcus Joseph Williams.
It's a beautiful song anyway.

But this is so frustrating. I always thought Michael's voice unique and unmistakable. Now we have three cover of Michael.  :Crash:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 16, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
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Found this on the web..its in Norwegian, but it has been translated...

Before listening to this song: It is NOT Michael Jackson, to trying not to mimic Michael in this song. The song was written by John Carew. Everything is sung by Marcus Joseph from Stadsbygd in. The man is on his way to world fame, without a doubt.

Marcus Joseph Williams (Stian) (http://stian.blogg.no/1335526960_marcus_joseph_william.html)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjwilliams.jpg)

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/marcus.jpg)

And this is a montage of Omar Bhatti compared to Marcus J. Williams.........I know there both Norwegian, but the eyes say alot...and the ears...

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/comparison.jpg)

*shocked face*...so I clicked on the link and in large letters read:

Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 16, 2012, 06:55:01 PM
@2good2betrue

I actually was out on sat night. Had a family send off for my young Brother in law who is competing in the Olympics for Australia.

I was on the forum on my iPhone. So hoaxessed at the mo!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 16, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
voiceforthesilent
Quote
*shocked face*...so I clicked on the link and in large letters read:

Life is a ticket to the greatest show on earth.


I saw it too ! !  :omg:  :omg:  :omg:  :omg:  :omg:  :omg:

There is something fishy about this, no doubt!

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on June 16, 2012, 08:33:24 PM
This isn't Michael singing... nice song though.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on June 16, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
Why in the world would this guy talk about the greatest show on earth. Aren't there enough slogans?  :animal0017:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on June 17, 2012, 12:29:15 AM
I've found more personal stuff about this guy Marcus...he is a real person and seems to be really into audio gear stuff and fascinated with Michael Jackson..

He started singing when he was 9yo.  Theres a blog he has posted on, and started topics...He has posted 75 times...He seems very curious about Michael Jacksons microphones used for This is It !!!

Here is the blog:  and he has covered MJ before his death.  So, I do beLIEve he is a real person, but he does use alot of special effects on his microphone to sound more like Michael as you can plainly see by his questions on this blog...

Gearslutz.com (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/search.php?searchid=48651088)

Gearslutz.com - View Profile: MarcusJoseph (http://www.gearslutz.com/board/members/35009-marcusjoseph/)    ..............This is all of his conversations.............

The headset microphone MJ used during the This Is...

The headset microphone MJ used during the This Is It rehearsals was actually a Shure WBH54B. The handheld during the rehearsals was a Shure sm beta 58 with a black grill.

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Forum: Work In Progress / Advice Requested / Show & Tell / Artist Showcase / Mix-Offs  4th May 2012 
Replies: 4  New original ballad "The Tides Will Turn"!
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Thread Starter New original ballad "The Tides Will Turn"!

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Check out my new track "The Tides Will Turn" and let me know what you think...  Produced by ELEMENT. Written by Elisabeth Carew All vocals sung by me...

Marcus J. Williams - The Tides Will Turn - YouTube 


"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin" PROMO 2012!

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Check out my first promo! It's a cover of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin" done in a very original way. I'm the singer. I did this song with the Producers from Element (Managed by StarGate). I hope you like it! Let me know what you think!

Marcus J. Williams - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' PROMO 2012! - YouTube

You can download it here if you want: Download (http://rockdizfile.com/aqy4r9pb07au/...2012)).mp3.html

Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/freddymcsuper/...liams-wanna-be (http://soundcloud.com/freddymcsuper/...liams-wanna-be)

And just so you know... I'm also working on recording original songs. But I want to save those for a (hopefully) CD release sometime soon!

Looking forward to hear from you guys!!!

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Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: curls on June 17, 2012, 02:11:10 AM
Let's face it - everyone wants to be Michael Jackson, and some are better at it than others! I don't have space in my brain anymore for this repeated sort of drama.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MissG on June 17, 2012, 05:43:59 AM
Yep, this Marcus sounded with a nordic accent.

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 17, 2012, 03:59:35 PM
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But this is so frustrating. I always thought Michael's voice unique and unmistakable. Now we have three cover of Michael.  :Crash:
Our angel's voice is unique and unmistakable. And you know it. Because there's his heart behind that voice.
Oh, Michael, you are the best and you know it. Nobody will ever be like you!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: MJonmind on June 18, 2012, 04:47:07 AM
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But this is so frustrating. I always thought Michael's voice unique and unmistakable. Now we have three cover of Michael.  :Crash:
Our angel's voice is unique and unmistakable. And you know it. Because there's his heart behind that voice.
Oh, Michael, you are the best and you know it. Nobody will ever be like you!
Yep. This other guy's clearly an imitator, like so many others.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: marumjj on June 18, 2012, 04:56:43 AM
I understand Marcus and his love for MJ. I do not understand is that if you have to sing conditions and means to do so, because it makes its own style? Marcus who buy discs with songs of MJ? I do not!  :michael_jackson-1135:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 18, 2012, 09:56:41 AM
I have no interest at all in ever purchasing a soundalike's MJ music. Don't care if his voice is a dead ringer to MJ's.   It's more to Michael's appeal than just the music.  It's the total package.  No one can ever measure up to that.  Imitators and impersonators apparently come a dime a dozen.  But the real deal, that's once in a lifetime.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: CC on June 18, 2012, 10:36:44 AM
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I have no interest at all in ever purchasing a soundalike's MJ music. Don't care if his voice is a dead ringer to MJ's.   It's more to Michael's appeal than just the music.  It's the total package.  No one can ever measure up to that.  Imitators and impersonators apparently come a dime a dozen.  But the real deal, that's once in a lifetime.

amen to that!!!
 :-*
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: skyways on July 04, 2012, 04:29:47 AM
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:) or  ::)  What do you think.  I think the title is extremely appropriate if it is authentic...and the lyrics are relevant..If you just beLIEve is in there too...
Michael Jackson - The Tides Will Turn [NEW SONG] 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I[/youtube]

that AWESOME Ballad is just keep rolling in my heart for a weeks now  :bowdown: :bowdown:
and I kept analyzing  on WHY?? this Marcus dude is claiming the spot of Obviously MJ-ish state of heart on this lyrics(yes, it was said to be pinned by someonelse , a young lady) BUT it was also said that this song is out take from Invincible :icon_e_surprised:

and NO Way Marcus can collaborate 10!!! years ago for that production, nevertheless to say  can be SOO worn out by public scene (if we judge from the lyrics) bEFORE even get there :icon_e_geek:


I just wanted to share with you my latest feelings for that ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SONG and then, all what I found from the researches just seems fit conception of perpetual blessing from Michael's genius mind and heart , and I admire him so very much....



Michael Jackson - Belong 2 (snippet)

Michael Jackson - Belong 2 (snippet) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cug8XHOik3A&feature=player_embedded)

Published on Apr 27, 2012 by MMJS0NYY
New demo 2012 song

(first version: Bad album session, this version is an Invicible Outake)





Michael Jackson - The Tides Will Turn [NEW SONG] 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K6uakG2v8I&feature=player_embedded)






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element_)(production_team)


Element (production team)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Element
Origin   Oslo, Norway
Genres   soul, hip hop, pop
Occupations   Producing
Years active   2009-present :icon_exclaim:
Website   elementmusicworld.com
Members
Hitesh Ceon
Kim Ofstad
Element (stylized as ELEMENT) is a Norwegian record production and songwriting team, consisting of Hitesh Ceon and Kim Ofstad. Some of the latest productions of the team include two songs for U.K. X-Factor-winner Alexandra Burke, "Dangerous" and "Bury Me (6 Feet Under)", as well as Michael Jackson's "I Want You Back"(ELEMENT Remix),[1] and a remix of Michael Jackson's "Skywriter"(Stargate Remix) which they produced together withStargate.[2][3]
Element has produced the song "Yes" for Musiq Soulchild, the second official single from Musiq's album MusiqInTheMagiq, as well as two other songs on the album, "Lovecontract" and "Clumsylove".[4]
Element has produced the song "It's Ok" for Cee Lo Green. The song is the second official single from Cee-Lo Green's album "The Lady Killer" and is written by Hitesh Ceon, Kim Ofstad, Cee Lo Green and Noel Fisher.[5][6]
Element has produced and co-written the song "Glow" for Madcon. An 7:30 minute long version of the song was performed in the final of the Eurovision Song Contest 2010, during the interval before the voting. While the song was playing many flash-mobs around Europe were dancing a choreographed dance to the song and Madcon performed in the Telenor Arena where the contest was held.[7] The song was released on iTunes the same day, and has reached Nr.1 in Norway and Germany, Nr. 2 in Spain and top 10 in 10 other countries. It has sold 10 times platinum in Norway and over 300.000 copies in Germany.[8][9]
Element was earlier known as 3Elementz, then a 3 member team, including bass-player Jonny Sjo. Their productions include Madcon's "Beggin'" which went to become 8x Platinum in Norway, before reaching top position on the hit lists in many European countries, and reaching number 2 position on the Billboard European chart.[10][11]
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Element is ELUSIVELY  produce TWT Marcus song== yet its NO word about that in Wiki??
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 04, 2012, 05:50:12 AM
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Element is ELUSIVELY  produce TWT Marcus song== yet its NO word about that in Wiki??[/color]

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BUT it was also said that this song is out take from Invincible

and NO Way Marcus can collaborate 10!!! years ago for that production,
:icon_e_geek: good research & good point!

Although, I like the song & the lyrics, I have my doubts whether it is MJ or not because I realize music tech stuff can make soundalike voices similar to MJ's voice.... anyways, inspite of the speculations whether it is/or isn't Michael's voice on the "Michael" album, I listen to it a lot.

L.O.V.E.

Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: skyways on July 04, 2012, 06:05:10 AM
OH, thank you  Everlasting!!  its my pleasure ))) :bearhug:

get a feeling like something is cooking... :ghsdf: :ghsdf: :michael-jackson:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: popisdead on July 04, 2012, 06:52:45 AM
that guy is talented but he's not mj ....not at all... :abouttime:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: taty_2crazy on July 04, 2012, 08:41:59 AM


It´s a nice song but it´s not Michael singing it.  ::)
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 04, 2012, 10:05:15 AM
I have no time enough to notice if it's Michael or not.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 06, 2012, 07:17:44 AM
Sounds like MJ + autotune for me. Still think it's him.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 06, 2012, 09:25:28 AM
Love the packaging.  Awesome.  If it's not MJ how do they use his image?  I tend to think it's him.  Sounds more like him than a couple of those Michael tracks.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: AnaMarcia on July 06, 2012, 09:49:05 AM
Okay .. this is Marcus J. William, but I can still imagine Michael singing this song.  :-\

It's a beautiful song.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: popisdead on July 06, 2012, 09:57:54 AM
still think is not mj....mj he's not a chorist...but the guy is talented...try again....
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 14, 2012, 07:55:23 PM
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Sounds like MJ + autotune for me. Still think it's him.

i agree about the autotune. and i think its done deliberately to leave one scratching their head.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: YoungMack on August 13, 2012, 11:17:23 PM
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Here we go again ...... :Pulling_hair:

How many times did we have to compare Michael's voice with some other singers??? I guess I am getting used to it now. Is it Michael? No, it's not him. Yes, it's him! No way, listen carefully..... and so and so on ! ! This never happened before June 25th, 2009. Now suddenly so many singers sound like Michael Jackson! Is this a coincidence or is it intended ?? I just don't know anymore   :Pulling_hair:

UNFORTUNATELY it is intended Diggyon.... Whoever it is oviously has no originality
about them.  Pretty sad to say and they need to PICK A DIFFERENT HOBBY because
as an artist if your not original your nothing!!!! So LAME to me.... Who wants to sound/be like
someone else???? Pretty sad if you ask me!!
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: gwynned on August 14, 2012, 07:41:49 AM
This guy is talking about releasing an album with some MJ songs.  Didn't think anyone could do that without permission from the copyright owner which in this case would either be MJ himself or the estate. 
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Thémis on August 14, 2012, 07:49:44 AM
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Here we go again ...... :Pulling_hair:

How many times did we have to compare Michael's voice with some other singers??? I guess I am getting used to it now. Is it Michael? No, it's not him. Yes, it's him! No way, listen carefully..... and so and so on ! ! This never happened before June 25th, 2009. Now suddenly so many singers sound like Michael Jackson! Is this a coincidence or is it intended ?? I just don't know anymore   :Pulling_hair:

UNFORTUNATELY it is intended Diggyon.... Whoever it is oviously has no originality
a   ;Dbout them.  Pretty sad to say and they need to PICK A DIFFERENT HOBBY because
as an artist if your not original your nothing!!!! So LAME to me.... Who wants to sound/be like
someone else???? Pretty sad if you ask me!!

I agree 200/100, me too I am tired of all this...

Thémis
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 22, 2012, 04:05:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/FreddyMcSuper/videos

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq3bFspBiAA&feature=plcp[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2V3VTVK34
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FBLCMXmpWI&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDp8qTCwW4&feature=plcp[/youtube]
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: Tove on August 29, 2012, 01:39:42 AM
Have you listen the Remix from Marcus J. Williams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISIAS3ytQgI&feature=player_embedded
From 13.30 he has the own lyrics to Keep the faith, combo to this is it :icon_mrgreen: Oookay...
I think, maybe there are 2 singers in his songs? Sometimes you can hear the norweigian accent clearly and sometimes it sounds just like MJ -i think it is made for purpose to confuse us all.
I also have wondered is it coinsidence or not that O'bee and this Marcus J. are both norweigian guys. Well, a greatest show on earth indeed :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on August 29, 2012, 06:11:43 AM
Please don't shoot me    :errrr: :errrr: :errrr: :errrr:

This reminds me of a song that spread so fast in the Islamic world a couple of days after Michael "allegedly" died. It's called: Give thanks to Allah (God).
Again, the same controversy was created here and everyone in the Islamic world could almost swear to God that Michael is the singer. But again, the real singer appeared and claimed to be the original singer.
It's a nice song with both Arabic and English texts. The Arabic text is a translation of the English text.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_QEvHnzpzA[/youtube]


Here is part of the lyrics:

Give thanks to Allah, (God)
for the moon and the stars
praise Him all day for
what is and what was.
Take hold of your imaan (faith)
dont give it to shaitan (satan, devil)
oh you who believe please give thanks to Allah.
Allah is Ghafur (forgiving)
Allah is Rahim  (murciful)
Allah is the one who loves the Muhsinin,(God loves who do the good and help others voluntarily)
He is our Creater,
He is our Sustainer
and He is the one who has power over all.

The singer who sang this song is not an Arab and he has an American accent that can be heard in the Arabic text. That's why all the fingers were pointed at Michael first. I think that this controversy that was created around the world is somehow intentional to draw the attention of the people to something different and let them dig deeper and deeper for the truth.
Title: Re: New released tracks on youtube.."The tides will turn" ?????? MJ or not???
Post by: diggyon on August 29, 2012, 01:21:09 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that when I first heard this song I didn't believe it was Michael's, which is not. But then I followed this controversy for a while and here I am in hoaxland!
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