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Hoax Investigation => Special Events & Days => General Hoax Investigation => BAD 25 => Topic started by: Grace on June 08, 2012, 11:26:45 AM

Title: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Grace on June 08, 2012, 11:26:45 AM
[Edit: thanks for modifying the thread into
(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2093101113/Bad_25.jpg)
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If this was posted already, feel free to delete or move.
Maybe we can open a BAD 25 chapter? I have a feeling there might be more around the corner.

You may listen to the snippet on the second link.

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  • JUNE 5TH RE-RELEASE OF THE #1 SINGLE, "I JUST CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU" INCLUDES PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DEMO TRACK (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/june-5th-re-release-1-single-i-just-can%E2%80%99t-stop-loving-you-includes-previously-unreleased-demo-t) "Don't Be Messin' 'Round" is available for the first time on the re-release of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" the first of five consecutive #1 singles from MJ's landmark album BAD which celebrates it's 25th anniversary with the release of BAD 25 on September 18th. MORE INFO (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/june-5th-re-release-1-single-i-just-can%E2%80%99t-stop-loving-you-includes-previously-unreleased-demo-t) | LISTEN (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/june-5th-re-release-1-single-i-just-can%E2%80%99t-stop-loving-you-includes-previously-unreleased-demo-t)
JUNE 5TH RE-RELEASE OF THE #1 SINGLE, "I JUST CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU" INCLUDES PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DEMO TRACK | The Official Michael Jackson Site (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/june-5th-re-release-1-single-i-just-can%E2%80%99t-stop-loving-you-includes-previously-unreleased-demo-t)

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Michael Jackson News  JUNE 5TH RE-RELEASE OF THE #1 SINGLE, "I JUST CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU" INCLUDES PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DEMO TRACK  (https://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/MJ%20-%20I%20Just%20Cant%20Stop%20-%20CD%20Single%20Cover_0.jpg) (https://www.michaeljackson.com/sites/mjackson/files/MJ%20-%20I%20Just%20Cant%20Stop%20-%20CD%20Single%20Cover_0.jpg)
Buy the single Here (http://www.smarturl.it/cantstoploving)
On Tuesday, June 5th The Estate of Michael Jackson and SONY Music Entertainment will re-release the first #1 single from BAD, "I Just Can't Stop Loving You", with a previously unreleased bonus demo track from the BAD sessions titled, "Don't Be Messin' 'Round". This special single re-release will not be released digitally; it is only available on CD at Wal-Mart.com, Wal-Mart stores in the U.S. and at other locations worldwide.
"Don't Be Messin' Round" was re-discovered in MJ's personal vault during the research process for BAD 25, the 25th anniversary edition of BAD available September 18th. Listen to a preview clip below.
JUNE 5TH RE-RELEASE OF THE #1 SINGLE, "I JUST CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU" INCLUDES PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DEMO TRACK | The Official Michael Jackson Site (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/june-5th-re-release-1-single-i-just-can%E2%80%99t-stop-loving-you-includes-previously-unreleased-demo-t)



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Are you ready for a feeling time
 are you ready for a good treat
 now there’s so much entertainment
 are you yeah ..in to me
 
 Chorus:
 So don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin around
 don’t be messin’ around hey hey hey
 don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin’ around
 don’t be messin’ around hey
 
 If I started now in the deep
 thinking said this feeling is your life
 I’ll be so proud if you let the only one
 that we love before a little while
 
 Chorus:
 Don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin around
 don’t be messin’ around hey hey hey
 so don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin’ around
 don’t be messin’ around hey
 oho yeah yeah,
 oho yeah, oho yeah, oho yeah
 
 Now just started think of pumpin
 to the beat I said let’s movin up late
 she said to keep your mind
 there’s won’t be no romance
 no no mess around with me I..
 
 Chorus:
 Don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin around
 don’t be messin’ around hey hey hey
 so don’t be messin’ around, don’t be messin’ around
 don’t be messin’ around hey hey


Full song on youtube:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxdmR5AtBo&feature=related[/youtube]
Michael Jackson - Don't Be Messin' 'Round (Demo) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxdmR5AtBo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Unreleased song "Don't Be Messin' 'Round" on IJCSLY single
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 08, 2012, 12:03:58 PM
Yes it was posted already, but I'll rename this to the Official BAD 25 Thread. Maybe we could collect all the stuff here.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on June 08, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
I bought 4 MJ pepsi cans!! 2 for me and my friend to drink , and 2 to add to my collection of MJ shtuff.  :elvis-1405:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Grace on June 09, 2012, 01:44:56 AM
Collector's edition has a special charm.


(http://images.sonymusicdigital.com/autoimage/display/product-index/media.sonymusicd2c.com/dda/26934395/3448c362164ac51b9876d8c90cbf8f81.jpg/3448c362164ac51b9876d8c90cbf8f81)

Michael Jackson "BAD - 25th Anniversary" @ Michael Jackson Global Store (http://nl.myplaydirect.com/michael-jackson/?current_country=NL)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 09, 2012, 11:46:56 AM
MJ Bad 25 Single Heading For # 1 (http://mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5353%3Amj-bad-25-single-heading-for--1&catid=85%3Alatest-news&Itemid=82)

MJ Bad 25 Single Heading For # 1

(9-6-2012) MJFC just learned that Michael Jackson's new single, "I Just Can't Stop Loving You"/"Don't Be Messin' 'Round", available exclusively at WalMart, is currently the top selling music title on Wal-mart.com and has a real shot at being  #1 on the Billboard Single Sales Chart this week!! Sales will be counted 'til this coming Monday at midnight (local time in each market), so please urge everyone you know to grab a single at their local WalMart store or on the website, and let's get Michael's first single from BAD25 a #1 debut!!  #BAD25

Matt Forger, Michael Jackson’s recording engineer for Don't Be Messin' 'Round recently spoke about the new release.

    One of the main intentions is to show that these are works in progress. To pull the curtain back. To actually see Michael in his natural work environment, how he directs, his sense of humor, his focus ... His spirit and emotion are totally there. He knew in demos he didn't have to be totally perfect in his execution. So he'd be loose. He'd throw in ad libs and dance or sing or pop his fingers or clap his hands. You just hear him enjoying himself.” Sounds great: Instead of trolling for one more radio hit, as they did with 2009’s Michael — where Akon was pulled in to awkwardly plug in the many holes of maligned lead single “Hold My Hand” — the MJ estate now seems cool with just letting this stuff out, letting it be prodded and poked just as it is. More of that, please.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 09, 2012, 11:50:03 AM
I have to say that I've listened to this song a few times and I really like it. It's definitely MJ - no controversy there. I'll be buying a copy or two to help the promotion along. Hopefully others will too as MJ is so deserving to be #1.

Blessings to your day :)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on June 09, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
Did my weekly 11pm Walmart trip, and they said they didn't have it there...  :over-react-smiley:


Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 10, 2012, 04:40:19 PM
I know - I had to order online too but it gave me the option to pick up at the store for free. I chose to have it delivered. Here is the link if you're interested. Blessings.

Walmart.com: I Just Can't Stop Loving You (Walmart Exclusive), Michael Jackson: Pop (http://www.walmart.com/ip/I-Just-Can-t-Stop-Loving-You-Walmart-Exclusive/20925480?findingMethod=Recommendation:wm:RecentlyViewedItems)

Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: darkchild on June 14, 2012, 11:08:20 PM
Michael Jackson's BAD 25th Anniversary Edition Already has its First #1 Single (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9605251.htm)


Michael Jackson's BAD 25th Anniversary Edition Already has its First #1 Single
The Estate of Michael Jackson along with Epic/Legacy Recordings announce: “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” / "Don't Be Messin' 'Round (demo)” CD Single Debuts at #1 on the Billboard Hot Singles Sales Chart.


MJ BAD 25 cover/release date 9/18/12
(PRWEB) June 14, 2012

On June 5, the original first single from Michael Jackson’s landmark album BAD, "I Just Can't Stop Loving You," was re-released as a CD Single with a never-before released bonus track called "Don't Be Messin' 'Round (demo)." In its first week this Wal-Mart exclusive CD single was scooped up by fans, giving Michael a #1 debut on the Billboard Hot Singles Sales chart in a top five that includes Carly Rae Jepsen, Calvin Harris, Justin Bieber and Coldplay/Rihanna.
“I Just Can't Stop Loving You” was written and composed by Michael Jackson and performed as a duet with Siedah Garrett. The song became the first of five consecutive number-one Billboard Hot 100 hits from Jackson's BAD album. It also reached number one on the Billboard R&B and adult contemporary charts. “Don’t Be Messin’ Around” is a previously unreleased demo from the singer’s vaults which was recorded during the BAD sessions.
On September 18th, the Estate of Michael Jackson along with Epic/Legacy Recordings will release BAD 25, which includes three CDs, two collectible booklets, and features the first-ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD tour, the concert at Wembley Stadium on July 16, 1988 attended by Princess Diana, Prince Charles and a sold-out crowd of 72,000 fans.
More details on this and other exciting projects relating to BAD’s 25th anniversary will be announced soon.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 14, 2012, 11:23:04 PM
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Michael Jackson's BAD 25th Anniversary Edition Already has its First #1 Single (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9605251.htm)


Michael Jackson's BAD 25th Anniversary Edition Already has its First #1 Single
The Estate of Michael Jackson along with Epic/Legacy Recordings announce: “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” / "Don't Be Messin' 'Round (demo)” CD Single Debuts at #1 on the Billboard Hot Singles Sales Chart.


MJ BAD 25 cover/release date 9/18/12
(PRWEB) June 14, 2012

On June 5, the original first single from Michael Jackson’s landmark album BAD, "I Just Can't Stop Loving You," was re-released as a CD Single with a never-before released bonus track called "Don't Be Messin' 'Round (demo)." In its first week this Wal-Mart exclusive CD single was scooped up by fans, giving Michael a #1 debut on the Billboard Hot Singles Sales chart in a top five that includes Carly Rae Jepsen, Calvin Harris, Justin Bieber and Coldplay/Rihanna.
“I Just Can't Stop Loving You” was written and composed by Michael Jackson and performed as a duet with Siedah Garrett. The song became the first of five consecutive number-one Billboard Hot 100 hits from Jackson's BAD album. It also reached number one on the Billboard R&B and adult contemporary charts. “Don’t Be Messin’ Around” is a previously unreleased demo from the singer’s vaults which was recorded during the BAD sessions.
On September 18th, the Estate of Michael Jackson along with Epic/Legacy Recordings will release BAD 25, which includes three CDs, two collectible booklets, and features the first-ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD tour, the concert at Wembley Stadium on July 16, 1988 attended by Princess Diana, Prince Charles and a sold-out crowd of 72,000 fans.
More details on this and other exciting projects relating to BAD’s 25th anniversary will be announced soon.


Thank you for sharing this - this is excellent news and I'm so happy for Michael :)

Michael Jackson's BAD 25th Anniversary Edition Already has its First #1 Single
The Estate of Michael Jackson along with Epic/Legacy Recordings announce: “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” / "Don't Be Messin' 'Round (demo)” CD Single Debuts at #1 on the Billboard Hot Singles Sales Chart.


Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 15, 2012, 08:41:49 AM
Michael Jackson fans are some bad mother ........ shut yo mouf, lol.

I am so happy that it debuted at # 1.  Twitter was on a roll getting the word out. I salute them for all the hard work.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on June 15, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
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Michael Jackson fans are some bad mother ........ shut yo mouf, lol.

I am so happy that it debuted at # 1.  Twitter was on a roll getting the word out. I salute them for all the hard work.

I think that Michael's BAM should be preceded by a #1 single, maybe "A place with no name" but full version, I leave you here with a remixed version:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEGIS84cDVA[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on July 10, 2012, 09:02:57 AM
Jackson Source - Spike Lee immersed in Michael Jackson Documentary (http://www.jackson-source.com/news/906-spike-lee-immersed-in-michael-jackson-documentary)

Spike Lee immersed in Michael Jackson Documentary
Published on Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:43

New York, NY – It was announced today that Academy Award nominated filmmaker Spike Lee, in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson and Sony Music, is in the final stages of post production of a Michael Jackson documentary focusing on Michael’s landmark BAD album and worldwide tour. The project marks the first ever in-depth, behind the scenes film project to chronicle a Michael Jackson album, and is being filmed amid the 25th anniversary celebration of the iconic album, record-breaking world tour and groundbreaking short films that changed music history. The documentary features over 40 interviews conducted personally by Spike Lee with Michael’s confidants, choreographers, musicians and other collaborators who collectively unveil the real story of this “coming of age” project through their vivid recollections of what it was like to work day in and day out and live this project with Michael. BAD’s lasting influence is captured through interviews with some of today’s top artists, including Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Cee Lo Green and Sheryl Crow, who was a back-up singer on the BAD tour.

 

The Michael Jackson BAD documentary joins an incredible body of Spike Lee documentaries including the Peabody and Emmy Award winning, When The Levees Broke: A Requiem In Four Acts and its follow up, If God Is Willing And Da Creek Don’t Rise, Kobe Doin’ Work, and the Oscar Nominated, 4 Little Girls. Lee directed both short films for Michael Jackson’s “They Don’t Care About Us” in 1996.

Spike Lee comments, “I’m more than just a huge fan of Michael Jackson, and having the chance to actually know him and work with him, I deeply care about his legacy. With this BAD project I was able to uncover just what made this such a huge, important coming of age in his career and unearth compelling stories surrounding the making of the album, the long awaited follow-up to Thriller – the best selling album of all time - the short films and the tour that may have never seen the light of day.”

Among the interviewees are Oscar-winning film director Martin Scorcese, Joe Pytka and other filmmakers who worked with Michael to bring the stories in his songs to life on the screen through short films that remain today some of the most vivid and creative storytelling by a musical artist as well as one of his Michael’s personal engineers, Matt Forger, who worked with Michael at the recording studio at Michael’s Hayvenhurst home where the songs first came to life, keyboardist Greg Phillinganes, who worked on the album and then the BAD Tour. Also shedding light on the BAD album, short films and tour are individuals like former CBS Head Walter Yetnikoff, as well as choreographers Jeffrey Daniel and Vincent Paterson.

John Branca and John McClain, co-executors of The Estate of Michael Jackson comment, “Spike Lee’s genius as a storyteller combined with his passion and first-hand appreciation of Michael’s artistry makes him the logical filmmaker to tell the story of BAD. We are thrilled to be working with him on this unique project.”

The third and final album collaboration for Jackson and Quincy Jones, BAD launched a pivotal coming of age for the King of Pop as a performer, composer and producer. The album was #1 around the world, made history with five consecutive #1 singles on the Billboard chart, produced ten chart-topping singles, nine ground breaking short films and to date, the BAD album has generated over 45 Million units in sales. BAD was nominated for six Grammys and won two; the album earned Michael the first-ever Video Vanguard Award at the MTV VMA Awards. Songs on the original album are: “Bad,” “The Way You Make Me Feel,” “Speed Demon,” “Liberian Girl,” “Just Good Friends” featuring Stevie Wonder, “Another Part of Me,” “Man in the Mirror,” “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” “Dirty Diana,” “Smooth Criminal,” with “Leave Me Alone” added to the CD version of the album once released.

Spike Lee’s film supports the 25th anniversary of BAD, which will also be celebrated with the September 18th release of BAD 25, a must-have deluxe package featuring three CDs, two collectible booklets, and features the first-ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD tour, the concert at Wembley Stadium on July 16, 1988 attended by Princess Diana, Prince Charles and a sold-out crowd of 72,000 fans. A BAD 25 two CD standard edition featuring the original album plus the CD of demos and new remixes will also be made available as will a stand alone edition of the DVD and a picture disc of the original album. More details on this and other exciting projects relating to BAD’s 25th anniversary will be announced soon.

www.MichaelJackson.com (http://www.MichaelJackson.com)
Michael Jackson | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson)
#WhosBAD
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: finfin on July 10, 2012, 02:31:18 PM
Did you see the snippet of the Spike Lee MJ documentary? Good choice - keep them coming!!

                                                     "I'll snap my fingers....then BAM" 

                                                       Bad25 - MJ Finger Snaps


    Bad 25 New Documentary (Snippet) by Spike Lee - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jf_EhlOXKU)

                                                              [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jf_EhlOXKU[/youtube]

                                        AWARD WINNING FILMMAKER SPIKE LEE IMMERSED IN MICHAEL JACKSON DOCUMENTARY | The Official Michael Jackson Site (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/1269031?cid=lg:tmj&utm_medium=post&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=mj)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on July 10, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
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Did you see the snippet of the Spike Lee MJ documentary? Good choice - keep them coming!!

                                                     "I'll snap my fingers....then BAM" 

                                                       Bad25 - MJ Finger Snaps


    Bad 25 New Documentary (Snippet) by Spike Lee - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jf_EhlOXKU)

                                                              [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jf_EhlOXKU[/youtube]

                                        AWARD WINNING FILMMAKER SPIKE LEE IMMERSED IN MICHAEL JACKSON DOCUMENTARY | The Official Michael Jackson Site (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/1269031?cid=lg:tmj&utm_medium=post&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=mj)
aawww!(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0007.gif) I want mooore!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0007.gif)Where's the rest??
Excellent the part with the finger-snapping! OMG! Soon...very soon!!  :woohoo2:

tks for sharing Finfin :bearhug:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: blankie on July 10, 2012, 04:05:11 PM
 :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:  Thank to you all for the news !!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on July 10, 2012, 05:09:33 PM
About that finger-snapping... The Elephant Man- movie challenge (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22819.msg414665#msg414665)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Adi on July 10, 2012, 08:05:26 PM
I like it on the Facebook post how it's called the "Bad" project and not the BAD album.

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The award winning filmmaker Spike Lee has collaborated with The Estate of Michael Jackson and Sony Music on an in-depth behind the scenes film project featuring over 40 interviews conducted personally by Spike Lee with Michael's confidants, choreographers, musicians and other collaborators who collectively unveil the the story of the "Bad" project. Click here for an exclusive first peak  AWARD WINNING FILMMAKER SPIKE LEE IMMERSED IN MICHAEL JACKSON DOCUMENTARY | The Official Michael Jackson Site (http://myplay.me/tmj)

Isn't it around the time of the BAD album that the hoax planning possibly started? Maybe the doco on the "Bad" project will encompass much more than the album and the making of the short films?

Just a thought anyway  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 01:02:56 AM
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Are you ready for a feeling time
 are you ready for a good treat
 now there’s so much entertainment
 are you yeah ..in to me

Orly?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on July 11, 2012, 01:33:50 AM
Must take a closer look at this later when I have more time.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on July 11, 2012, 06:23:06 AM
Btw: isn´t this interesting....

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Spike Lee comments, “I’m more than just a huge fan of Michael Jackson, and having the chance to actually know him and work with him, I deeply care about his legacy
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Adi on July 11, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
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Btw: isn´t this interesting....

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Spike Lee comments, “I’m more than just a huge fan of Michael Jackson, and having the chance to actually know him and work with him, I deeply care about his legacy

Mary  - yes it is. It's not in past tense as it should be if MJ was dead.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 09:11:36 AM
The whole thing is double-speak. It could be talking about the Bad tour/album or it could be talking about the hoax project. I hate when that happens because I start getting excited again.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on July 11, 2012, 10:06:48 AM
Love the finger snapping and that huge 'hoooooo' is just the best! A very tantalising snippet, to say the least.

(I'm getting excited again too Bec!)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on July 11, 2012, 10:53:21 AM
Bad 25.  June 25.  MJ "dies" at 50 (25 twice).

Just typing thoughts out loud, don't really know where I'm going with this.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 11:16:25 AM
Omg he's such a tease.

Finger snapping...

Goddammit, MJ.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on July 11, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
LOL bec, can you imagine someone doing that little routine to you in real life?  I'm sorry, I turn into a guuurly 'fan' when presented with Bad-era stuff!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
No don't ask me to imagine that. I was referring strictly to hoax tease with the other no where in my mind til you said that. Grr curls, grr.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on July 11, 2012, 12:29:08 PM
How was Spike chosen to do this?  I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Spike collaborated with the man himself, not the estate, to do this project unless of course Michael gave all his rehearsal footage to Branca or McClain before he left which I tend to doubt.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on July 11, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
 :icon_redface: Sorry bec!  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 10:26:19 PM
Oh no, it's too late for sorry, curls. That ship has already set sail... soon as I went clicking around to find a snippet of that song that was pulled off YouTube n stumbled onto TWYMMF snippet from the docu with the snapping and the HEY and the UH and the you know what, yeah it's over.

THANKS.

(lol)

Damnit I'm excited. That's annoying. I have successfully staved off excitement for a couple months now and that might be a record--shattered by this Bad25 stuff. Watch it be just another MJ estate promotional thing with hoax clues and teasers embedded throughout.

I dunno though, September is awfully close to election day, that's less then 60 days. August, maybe, but if we have nothing by early September, I still say itll be til after election.

Maybe he knows something the rest of us don't about Obama's reelection chances. I think it's pretty good but my god if the GOP win, I don't see how he can come back  :errrr:  :icon_e_confused:

I digress.

@hes, don't you think MJ could work through the Estate? I tend to think Branca and McClain have to be in on it. Perhaps they got directions and feedback from MJ which they handed down to Spike and Spike truly is none the wiser? Possible anyway. A lot of things can be done through others even while he is dead, just look at the Michael Album.

Anyway, any word on when Spike's docu is supposed to be out?

Also, anyone remember the talk in 09 of Spike doing an MJ docu? Then Spike released something short n basic and we all thought that was it, but it felt undone even then, like... that's it? Well I guess that wasn't it. But I will say it is odd that Spike never mentioned no, this isn't it, this is just a little tribute to MJ, I'd like to do/am planning/am working on a major MJ docu to be released in the next few years, yada yada, etc etc, like people do.

More secrecy factor. So that does make me wonder who knows what and how much. Which, of course, may be nothing but my own overactive imagination and hopes getting up. Maybe Spike's docu is just a docu like he says it is.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on July 11, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
I agree about Branca and McClain being in on it and taking direction from MJ.  Plus, to the best of my knowledge, we STILL haven't actually seen who this McClain guy is.  TMZ had a vague bio on him (with no pic) and now I can't find that bio at all on their site.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 11, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
Good point about McClain that we all forgot, Andrea. All I think about is the character Bruce Willis played in Die Hard when I hear McClain.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: CC on July 12, 2012, 04:38:43 PM
WHO IS JOHN MCCLAIN? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=15718.msg344209#msg344209)

DOES ANYBODY EVER SEEN JOHN MCCLAIN PHOTO? WHO IS HE? (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=10371.msg344079#msg344079)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SEHF on July 12, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/Sorta1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on July 12, 2012, 05:58:13 PM
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(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/Sorta1.jpg)

Is this John Mcclain, SEHF?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 12, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
Yup that's him, allegedly.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SEHF on July 12, 2012, 10:00:57 PM
heh
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 12, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
You and that heh again.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Loveunited on July 12, 2012, 11:32:21 PM
Thanks, uh, Sehf......

Okay now we have an image; now what?! :icon_geek:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on July 13, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
We've had AN alleged image for a long time. Now what what?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SEHF on July 13, 2012, 12:28:46 AM
write him a dear john letter
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Grace on July 13, 2012, 12:44:58 AM
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write him a dear john letter

Now it is out for everybody to see.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/dear_john_hat-p148714213563486730enxqz_400.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on July 13, 2012, 12:45:15 AM
He was also in the video of MJ almost buying Marvel studio.
It's apparently John McClain at 2:45.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdN9vRKUf0Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SEHF on July 13, 2012, 01:03:06 AM
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write him a dear john letter

Now it is out for everybody to see.

(http://rlv.zcache.com/dear_john_hat-p148714213563486730enxqz_400.jpg)

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee491/showemhowfunky/TurtleJohn1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: julia142 on July 13, 2012, 01:35:15 AM

I wonder something... It will be the 30th anniversary of Thriller on November 30th 2012.... Why do we celebrate the 25th anniversary of the ''Bad album'' instead of the 30th anniversary of the ''Thriller album'' ? Now it is really a question mark! Thriller was celebrated on his 25th anniversary, now it is ''bad'', but most of the people remember more ''Thriller'', so really.... There is something about this 25 number for sure! Have you ever wondered why?


For my part, I do think, this is when the hoax started...
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on July 13, 2012, 01:42:43 AM
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He was also in the video of MJ almost buying Marvel studio.
It's apparently John McClain at 2:45.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdN9vRKUf0Y[/youtube]

LOL, so they HAVE been seen in the same room together at the same time then??!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Loveunited on July 14, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Alleged image;yes, head doesn't match body to my eye....

Dear John,
I'm sorry darling, but I just can't continue to be with a man who is reluctant to reveal himself to me. I do have genuine feelings for you, but there is so little tIME in this life, I just can't stay with someone who doesn't trust me. Thank you for giving to me what you could, please understand, I just want more. Really, it's not you it's me. I hope you find happiness and wish you nothing but good. I will treasure our momments for ever....

LoveU no more

P.S. You're dumped
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on July 15, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m78fm6jijO1qbbakzo1_500.png)

 :woohoo2:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on July 16, 2012, 12:22:01 AM
Thanks fin fin for sharing, that's awesome! Must watch again.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on August 07, 2012, 07:57:28 AM
http://jackson-source.com/news/920-tracklist-bad-25th-anniversary-special-edition-unveiled (http://jackson-source.com/news/920-tracklist-bad-25th-anniversary-special-edition-unveiled)

Tracklist BAD 25th anniversary special edition unveiled
Published on Tuesday, 07 August 2012 12:47

Epic/Legacy Recordings in collaboration with the Estate of Michael Jackson today announced the highly anticipated track listing for the September 18th release of Michael Jackson BAD25   that celebrates the legendary album and record breaking BAD tour. Featured in the deluxe package, are three CDs, two collectible booklets, and the first ever authorized DVD release of a concert from the record breaking BAD World Tour – the July 16, 1988 sold out Wembley Stadium show in London.

Filled with previously re-mastered versions of iconic hits and un-released recordings from the King Of Pop, the BAD25 anniversary deluxe edition CDs and DVD will include the following:

CD one features re-mastered versions of Michael's biggest hits on the original BAD album, including, "Smooth Criminal,"  "Man In The Mirror," “Bad,” “Another Part of Me,” “The Way You Make Me Feel,” and "Dirty Diana" arranged in the same sequence as they appeared on the original album released 25 years ago. “Leave Me Alone” was added to the album as a bonus track following its initial release and has been included on the disc.

CD two offers fans a rare listen to thirteen additional tracks, 6 of which are previously unreleased demo recordings created at Michael’s personal studio built at his then-home on Hayvenhurst Avenue in Encino, California. Also included are all three bonus tracks from the 2001 expanded edition of BAD, the previously un-released French version of Michael performing the classic, “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You,” a high  power version of “Speed Demon” remixed by Nero and the brand new remix of “Bad” worked on as an electrifying collaboration between Pitbull and Dutch DJ Afrojack.

Recordings included in this package reflect the songs and spirit of Michael Jackson’s artistry during BAD’s recording sessions and have been selected to show the different stages of how Michael’s songwriting and recording genius took shape. Some tracks are so complete that any other artist but Michael Jackson – who worked tirelessly to make sure his songs reflected his vision – might consider them finished tracks. Others are less complete but offer insight into Michael’s creative process in its various stages. Included is the demo, “Al Capone,” an early incarnation of what ultimately became “Smooth Criminal,” “Don’t Be Messin’ Around,” an example of a more complete demo, and a song initially titled, “Song Groove.” That song later became known as “Abortion Papers” which according to Michael’s own records, he spent considerable time in weighing how best to thoughtfully address something that was, and remains, a very personal and sensitive issue.

A true highlight of the package is CD three and the DVD – the never seen before live concert on DVD and its accompanying music CD of Michael’s legendary July 16, 1988 concert at Wembley Stadium. The concert is not a compilation of performances, but rather one complete show, exactly as Michael performed it for Prince Charles, Princess Diana and the 72,000 fans who were in the audience for that night’s sold out show. This show was one of the seven record-breaking nights played at the venue attended by more than half a million people – three times that many people tried to purchase tickets. The DVD was sourced from Michael Jackson’s personal VHS copy of the performance as shown on the JumboTrons during the concert. This footage was only recently unearthed and is the only known copy of the show to exist. The visuals have now been restored and the audio quality enhanced so that fans can share in the excitement of that famous night in 5.1 surround sound taken from the original multitrack recordings made that night.

In addition to the complete Wembley Show, the DVD will also contain “The Way You Make Me Feel” from Michael’s July 15th performance at Wembley Stadium. This is the only song not performed on July 16th due to the late start of that night’s show. Also included are the thrilling early performances of “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” and “Bad” from the Yokohama Stadium performance in September of 1987 during the first leg of the BAD World Tour.

BAD25 – COMPLETE TRACKLISTING:

DELUXE BOX TRACK LISTING

CD ONE – Original Album

1. Bad

2. The Way You Make Me Feel

3. Speed Demon

4. Liberian Girl

5. Just Good Friends

6. Another Part Of Me

7. Man In The Mirror

8. I Just Can’t Stop Lovin’ You

9. Dirty Diana

10. Smooth Criminal

11. Leave Me Alone

 

CD TWO – Bonus Tracks, Unreleased Tracks, Demos, Remixes

1. Don’t Be Messin’ Around

2. I’m So Blue

3. Song Groove (A/K/A Abortion Papers)

4. Free

5. Price Of Fame

6. Al Capone

7. Streetwalker

8. Fly Away

9. Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu (I Just Can't Stop Loving You, Spanish Version)

10. Je Ne Veux Pas La Fin De Nous (I Just Can't Stop Loving You, French Version)

11. Bad (REMIX BY AFROJACK FEATURING PITBULL - DJ BUDDHA EDIT)

12. Speed Demon (REMIX BY NERO)

13. Bad (REMIX BY AFROJACK - CLUB MIX)

 

CD THREE – CD Live at Wembley Stadium July 16, 1988

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. This Place Hotel

3. Another Part Of Me

4. I Just Can't Stop Loving You

5. She's Out Of My Life

6. I Want You Back / The Love You Save / I'll Be There

7. Rock With You

8. Human Nature

9. Smooth Criminal

10. Dirty Diana

11. Thriller

12. Working Day And Night

13. Beat It

14. Billie Jean

15. Bad

16. Man In The Mirror

 

DVD – DVD Live at Wembley Stadium July 16, 1988

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. This Place Hotel

3. Another Part Of Me

4. I Just Can't Stop Loving You

5. She's Out Of My Life

6. I Want You Back / The Love You Save / I'll Be There

7. Rock With You

8. Human Nature

9. Smooth Criminal

10. Dirty Diana

11. Thriller

12. Bad Groove (the Band Jam section)

13. Working Day And Night

14. Beat It

15. Billie Jean

16. Bad

17. Man In The Mirror (Encore)

 And Bonus Tracks Include:

1.     The Way You Make Me Feel (Performed at Wembley the previous night, July 15, 1988)

2.     I Just Can’t Stop Loving You/Bad (Performed at Yokohama Stadium, September, 1987)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on August 07, 2012, 09:00:27 AM
Wow Mary thanks for sharing I am looking forward to purchasing it as soon as it get released in Spain, Michael thanks for it this is a beautiful gift.

ps: it seems London is related to the hoax from the beginning to the end.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on August 07, 2012, 09:17:17 AM
I know we've discussed this before but I thought Dirty Diana was not performed on the night the Prince and Princess of Wales attended. Did we ever reach a conclusion on this?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on August 07, 2012, 09:29:59 AM
I think it was performed due to it was the fav song of Lady Di, when Michael greeted Lady Di he told her I will not perform Dirty Diana in respect to you and Diana was quick to say: Oh no please it's my favorite song!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MissG on August 07, 2012, 10:47:07 AM
I want it!

Michael, missing yoooouuuuu
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 07, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
I've been saving up for the Bad suitcase/deluxe thing for a while now!! I can't wait !  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: blankie on August 07, 2012, 01:46:30 PM
Thanks Mary !!!!  :bearhug:

Start the countdown ! !    :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :woohoo2:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: RK on August 07, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
Just reading through that tracklist and I want it NOW.... :icon_bounce: especially the bonus tracks on CD2 and the DVD. Thanks for posting this info Mary.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Sarahli on August 08, 2012, 12:34:35 PM
It's interesting that this information has been unveiled on the 7th.  :icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: suspicious mind on August 08, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
so what if this thing rakes in the bucks and they still don't pay off the catalog?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mindseye on August 15, 2012, 05:33:21 PM
More news: First Look: Spike Lee's Michael Jackson Documentary 'Bad 25'

 While he's still hoping to get his "Brooklyn Loves MJ" project off the ground, as he told us last week, Spike Lee's been able to scratch his Michael Jackson itch; hot on the heels of the release of "Red Hook Summer," he'll unveil "Bad 25," a new documentary about the creation of the pop star's seminal record, at the Venice Film Festival (where he'll also get a lifetime achievement award) in a few short weeks. And it was announced this week that Lee will also be bringing the film to the Toronto International Film Festival.

Given the high quality of Lee's documentary work so far (you can read our take on these projects in our retrospective of the director's work from last week), we're expecting this to be a cut above the usual music documentary, and some first-look images from the film, which reveal participants like Martin Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker, Kanye West, Sheryl Crow, ?uestlove and Mariah Carey, suggests that this should shed some interesting light on the 25th anniversary of "Bad." We'll be bringing you our verdict on the film in a few weeks, but in the meantime, check out the images and an official synopsis below.

Spike Lee pays tribute to Michael Jackson's Bad on the twenty-fifth anniversary of the epochal album, offering behind-the-scenes footage of Jackson recording the album and interviews with confidants, musicians, choreographers, and such music-world superstars as Kanye West, Sheryl Crow, Cee Lo Green and Mariah Carey

Bad 25 features captivating behind-the-scenes footage of the recording sessions for several of Bad’s biggest songs ("The Way You Make Me Feel" being among the most memorable). There are also revealing interviews with a number of fellow artists who worked with Jackson — such as Sheryl Crow, with whom Jackson shared the duet "I Just Can’t Stop Loving You" on stage during the Bad world tour — and those who were inspired by him, including Kanye West, Cee Lo Green and Mariah Carey. Lee offers us a more intimate side of Jackson, one rarely glimpsed amidst the glitter and circus-like atmosphere that surrounded the notoriously private superstar, especially as his personal life (and appearance) became a scandal-rag mainstay in the years that followed Bad. As the landmark album takes shape before our eyes, we see Jackson’s dedication to his craft, his talent for inspired collaboration, and his sly sense of humour — as well as some hints of the toll that his relentless work ethic had on his psyche..

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/first-look-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-bad-25-20120814#
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Sweetangel on August 23, 2012, 05:22:42 PM
Hello everyone,

here is a new Speed Demon Remix supposed to be at the BAD25 Album.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9tpD9AqK04[/youtube]

Listen quickly, the orginal Source was asked by Sony to take it down and they did.

Here’s the Nero remix of Speed Demon by Michael Jackson from the forthcoming “Bad 25″ release. I have always really liked this song, as well as the fun music video from “Moonwalker”. This mix is not bad (no pun intended), but not something I would play at my club either. It’s about what I expected when I saw that Nero was remixing it. Hopefully some other remixes will follow.

Sorry guys, we were “asked” by Sony’s representative to take this preview down.

Here is the link: http://www.dancemixusa.com/2012/08/22/michael-jackson-speed-demon-nero-mix/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=michael-jackson-speed-demon-nero-mix

Sometimes it feels like a Game, who is faster Me with posting the tracks or Youtube with deleting them. :icon_lol: Feels like "Somebody is watching me." At least I like this Remix more than the Afrojack Bad Remix.

Much Peace and Love to everyone.




Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: reveron1958 on August 23, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
Thank you for posting it.

I can't say I'd sit down and listen to that and to be honest Speed Demon is not a track I particularly like.  :icon_redface: Maybe more appealing to younger peeps.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Sweetangel on August 23, 2012, 06:01:18 PM
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Thank you for posting it.

I can't say I'd sit down and listen to that and to be honest Speed Demon is not a track I particularly like.  :icon_redface: Maybe more appealing to younger peeps.

Yes, you are absolutley right, but remember Michael has Fans of all Ages. And it would be really boring
when they would only sell the old tracks. At least I wouldn't need them because I have them already and
why should I buy the same stuff twice?

Much Peace and Love to you.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 23, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
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I think it was performed due to it was the fav song of Lady Di, when Michael greeted Lady Di he told her I will not perform Dirty Diana in respect to you and Diana was quick to say: Oh no please it's my favorite song!

The Estate revealed that it was added at Diana’s request and it is on the dvd.  Whoopee  :woohoo2:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on August 23, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
Seems to me there's less of MJ's vocals in it which is a downer.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hr8XDax8pI[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on August 24, 2012, 12:08:59 AM
That's a bummer about Speed Demon. I like the original song and so do my grandkids. We might be disappointed if the newer version has less MJ. But, sometimes a little change can be good too.

It kind of reminds me of when one of MJ's nephews was talking about the song Hold My Hand and he said that when MJ originally played it for him his only criticism was that he would have liked to hear more MJ and less Akon. I wonder, assuming MJ has some control over the songs, why he's doing that? Is he trying to let the newer artists "shine" as he says?

I will be buying the album in September out of support for MJ. I'll worry about what versions are on there later.

Blessings to you :)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on August 27, 2012, 10:06:09 AM
http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/08/27/mystery-about-unreleased-michael-jackson-songs-from-bad-anniversary-album (http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/08/27/mystery-about-unreleased-michael-jackson-songs-from-bad-anniversary-album)

Mystery About Unreleased Michael Jackson Songs from “Bad” Anniversary Album
08/27/12 9:49am Roger Friedman

EXCLUSIVE There are some mysteries about a couple of unreleased tracks including in the upcoming Michael Jackson “Bad25″ album. Two of the eight tracks– which are really wonderful–are unknown entirely to the engineers who worked on “Bad” in 1986. Those tracks are a lovely ballad called “I’m So Blue” and a slice of funk called “Song Groove (aka Abortion Papers).” Neither Bruce Swedien nor Bill Bottrell has any memory of them. I played the songs for each of them this weekend, and came up with no answers. “Michael must have gotten out and recorded with someone else,” Bottrell told me.
But don’t worry–they are completely by Michael Jackson. They’re the genuine article.
The anniversary boxed set of the huge-selling 1987 album contains quite a few surprises. Eight of them, actually. There are eight unreleased tracks that didn’t make it onto the “Bad” album. Surprisingly, they’ve remained in the vaults at Sony all this time. One of them, called “Don’t Be Messin’ Around,” was released earlier this summer as the “B” side of a re-released single on “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” from Wal-Mart. I have no idea why Sony did that, since it seemed a squandered opportunity.
Now these eight tracks are coming as a separate CD inside “Bad25,” which contains four discs. The first disc is a remastered version of the original album. The second disc has these eight songs. The third disc is a live CD from a concert Michael performed on July 16, 1988 at Wembley Stadium in London. The fourth disc is a DVD of live performances from that time. Target customers get a disc of the original music videos from “Bad.” What’s unclear is what happens to  a Spike Lee documentary about the making of “Bad,” which should have footage from the recording sessions with Quincy Jones, engineer Bruce Swedien, and manager mastermind Frank DiLeo.
“Bad25″ will be released on September 18th.
But it’s the eight songs that are going to make fans very, very happy. A couple of them are known, like “Don’t Be Messin’ Around” and   . But the others are real surprises, especially a track called “Streetwalker.” It the vague feel of “The Way You Make Me Feel” in that it’s a Motown oriented shuffle. But it’s also a dynamite track. The version on “Bad25″ was mixed by Bottrell, but there are others by Swedien. Jackson was never satisfied with any of them. “Streetwalker” will be known to players of the video game “The Michael Jackson Experience.” But it’s also a hit. We’re going to be hearing ir on the radio– a lot. (“Streetwalker” and another track, “Fly Away,” were first included in the “Bad” re-release back in 2001.)
The others are all gems. “I’m So Blue” is beautiful ballad, with a vocal by Michael that recalls his best work. If Sony were smart, they’d release it as their first single from this set. It also has a harmonica solo that either is by Stevie Wonder or sounds just like him. The other tracks– “Al Capone,” “Free,” “Fly Away”– are also excellent.
There are reasons the songs didn’t make the final album.
“Price of Fame” is a mixture of a “Billie Jean” outtake, musically, combined with the Police’s “Spirits in the Material World.” Michael’s vocal on this track sometimes dips into his “real” voice–a lower register–than his stage falsetto and whisper that he perfected. “Free” is just another breezy ballad, and “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” was already on the album, and a hit. “Al Capone” is a different take on the hit, “Smooth Criminal.”
The strangest of the eight songs is titled “Song Groove (aka Abortion Papers).” Swedien doesn’t remember this track. Neither does Bottrell. It’s got a killer rhythm track and a very catchy hook and melody. But the lyrics–and I’m not sure whether Michael wrote them–are like the real flip side of “Billie Jean.” He sings “Those abortion papers/think about signing your name…”
I don’t know if Sony had producers fiddle with these tracks to make them sound more modern. They could very well have been augmented. But I hope the Jackson fans don’t try to destroy them the way they did the songs on the “Michael” album. Like those tracks, these are completely real, they’re Michael Jackson’s vocals, and they’re a wonderful reminder of the King of Pop at his zenith.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUPpIPVT-E[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBv9me5amX4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHZshqpB0BQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on August 27, 2012, 06:58:17 PM
Michael Jackson: Exclusive Liner Notes from “Bad25″
08/27/12 6:45pmRoger Friedman

http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/08/27/michael-jackson-exclusive-liner-notes-from-bad25 (http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/08/27/michael-jackson-exclusive-liner-notes-from-bad25)

Exclusive: Here’s some more info from the boxed set of Michael Jackson’s “Bad 25″ anniversary project coming on September 18th. Jackson fans should be ears up on this since we get some explanations for how the estate put the project together after Frank DiLeo unexpectedly and tragically passed away. Here’ an excerpt, plus a description of some of the unreleased songs I wrote about this morning. I’m telling you, “I’m So Blue” is one I cannot get out of my head. Very annoying, in a good way.
Excerpt: “A lot of time was spent listening to all of the recordings in the archives from the BAD era… Some tracks we found were very early recordings. They had no lyrics except possibly the chorus but more complete music tracks. Some were actually so complete that any other artist but Michael Jackson – who worked tirelessly to make sure his songs reflected his vision – might consider them finished tracks… As such, we have given a little information for each recording. As Michael wrote in a note at the time, he was determined to get exactly what he wanted on the recordings of his songs… In addition to the demo recordings, also on the “bonus” disc are the three recordings that were included in the 2001 re-release of the BAD album – “Fly Away,” “Streetwalker” and the Spanish version of “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You.” In addition, a French version of “I Just Can’t Stop Loving You” is included along with the earlier mentioned remixes.”
DON’T BE MESSIN’ ROUND
It is well-known that Michael might start a song for one album, and then choose not to use it. The song would later be pulled from his vaults for possible use on a subsequent album project. “Don’t Be Messin’ Round” is an example of one such song, and how it took shape at the time of BAD. Indeed, Bruce Swedien has called it one of his favorites.
I’M SO BLUE
For Michael, creating a demo is how he let someone (in this case Quincy and Bruce) know what he wanted to hear in the finished recording. It also was a vehicle for writing both the lyrics and the music (since he didn’t actually write leadsheets). And because he was such a perfectionist, this really meant giving them a demo that, to most people, would be considered a finished “record” and not a demo at all as Bruce Swedien, among others, have noted. This is an example of one of those “demos.”
SONG GROOVE (A/K/A ABORTION PAPERS)
As noted earlier, this is a song that Michael knew could be controversial and, as a result, he spent a lot of time thinking about the story for the song and the voice through which the song should be told. The song is
about a girl whose father is a priest; she was raised in the Church and on the Bible. She gets married in the Church but decides, against the Bible, to have an abortion and she wants “Abortion Papers.” As Michael indicated in his notes, “I have to do it in a way so I don’t offend girls who have gotten abortions or bring back guilt trips so it has to be done carefully… I have to really think about it.“ This is an early example of a song with a controversial subject.
FREE
Generally, Michael’s process for creating a song would start with the chorus and harmonies first and it would build from there to include melodies and the lyrics for the verses. This piece shows a song that is clearly still a “work in progress” but with a full, finished chorus and harmonies.
PRICE OF FAME
Sometimes a song is written with a story in mind. In Michael’s work notes we found the story for this song – blind obsession. He described the story as “the girls who are over-obsessed with me, who follow me, who almost make me kill myself in my car, who just give their lives to do anything with me, to see me – they’ll do anything and it’s breaking my heart. It’s running me crazy. It’s breaking up my relationship with my girl, with my family. That’s the ‘Price of Fame’.”
AL CAPONE
When you listen to some early demos of songs, you can tell instantly what song it is. This is NOT one of those songs. It is an example of how different a song can be during its early stages of development from its later, finished polished version. If it were not a well known fact that “Smooth Criminal” was developed out of “Al Capone,” it would be hard to know that it had its roots in the material based on listening to this early recording.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 27, 2012, 07:22:24 PM
I’ve heard everything except the I’m Blue song.  Someone on twitter leaked a slew of MJ unreleased songs.  And there was a boxed set (unofficial) that was being sold in 2009 with 32 dvds and 1 cd with nearly 100 songs on it that had most of these songson it also.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: marumjj on August 27, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
Maryk Thanks, hope you can access the album, yeah I want it now  :woohoo2:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: reveron1958 on August 28, 2012, 02:48:00 AM
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Thank you for posting it.

I can't say I'd sit down and listen to that and to be honest Speed Demon is not a track I particularly like.  :icon_redface: Maybe more appealing to younger peeps.

Yes, you are absolutley right, but remember Michael has Fans of all Ages. And it would be really boring
when they would only sell the old tracks. At least I wouldn't need them because I have them already and
why should I buy the same stuff twice?

Much Peace and Love to you.

Of course! I am not suggesting they only release tracks that might appeal to me personally!  :LolLolLolLol:

It was just a quick personal opinion on the track. Hope I haven't offended. I can't like everything!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: diggyon on August 28, 2012, 06:30:22 AM
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Thank you for posting it.

I can't say I'd sit down and listen to that and to be honest Speed Demon is not a track I particularly like.  :icon_redface: Maybe more appealing to younger peeps.

Yes, you are absolutley right, but remember Michael has Fans of all Ages. And it would be really boring
when they would only sell the old tracks. At least I wouldn't need them because I have them already and
why should I buy the same stuff twice?

Much Peace and Love to you.

Of course! I am not suggesting they only release tracks that might appeal to me personally!  :LolLolLolLol:

It was just a quick personal opinion on the track. Hope I haven't offended. I can't like everything!

I don't think you have offended anyone, reveron. People have different tastes and that's normal. The tracks I like are not necessarily the tracks you like and I'm sure Michael is aware of this fact.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 28, 2012, 07:48:09 AM
Of course there is going to controversy surrounding this new box set...Well I guess the executors of the estate still have a huge loan to pay off...more specifically, the loan taken out from Bank of America, using MJ's catalog as a security assest....HMMMMM

Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Adi on August 30, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
The Spike Lee doco on BAD25 is about to be premiered at the 69th Venice International Film Festival in a few hours time (9am Venice time) firstly for press and industry: http://www.labiennale.org/doc_files/programma-69d.pdf

I was just checking out the above pdf and noticed that the length of the doco is 123 (minutes)...which kind of reminded me of Sign #1 and the discussion about the 1 chromosome + 23 chromosomes

Quote
With the blood that Ron Wyatt found on the mercy seat of the true ark, the identity is impossible to counterfeit. Normal humans have 46 chromosomes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome). However, the blood of Jesus from the ark has only 24 chromosomes (23 “X” from Mary, and 1 “Y” from God). This is very strong scientific evidence of the virgin birth (see Matthew 1:18-25; Luke 1:26-38; 3:23).

I love how it's being released on a 'blue moon" at the 69th Venice Film Festival and exactly on the anniversary of when the BAD album was released (31st August 1987).

I hope we get some "hoaxy" tidbits to pick apart from back when the hoax must have all been in the planning stages  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on August 31, 2012, 04:55:35 AM
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/bad.jpg)

 :michael_jackson-1135:

 :multiplespotting:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 31, 2012, 08:21:44 AM
Bad must've been a helluva birthday present back in 1987, 2 days right after MJ turned 29.  Time flies...
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Adi on August 31, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
Bad 25 Documentary: Venice Review

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/bad-25-venice-review-367157

Spike Lee captures a specific pinnacle in Michael Jackson's career and a precise period in American popular music culture with his comprehensive recap of the making, marketing and legacy of the 1987 album, 'Bad.'

VENICE – Michael Jackson continues to be bigger dead than alive. It might have seemed that Kenny Ortega had his legacy covered with the 2009 documentary This Is It, but Spike Lee goes one better with Bad 25
an obsessively detailed quarter-century anniversary tribute to the 1987 album that capped the three-prong commercial tsunami Jackson began with “Off the Wall” and “Thriller.”

The film is a sensational snapshot of the peak of the music video as art form, as well as the intricately layered process by which superior pop is crafted. More poignantly, it serves to remove the veil of late-period
craziness and allegations and restore the reputation of Jackson as a multi-hyphenate musician of peerless discipline, professionalism and perfectionism – not to mention a pioneering influence in dance and fashion.

Following its Venice and Toronto bows, Bad 25 is scheduled to air on ABC at Thanksgiving.

Lee directed Jackson’s 1996 music video for “They Don’t Care About Us.” Despite conducting the interviews personally, he keeps himself out of the picture here aside from one or two audio snippets. But it’s clear
that his connection to this material runs deep, revealing itself, for example, in his exhaustive attention to the making of Martin Scorsese’s short film for the album’s title track. No less fascinating is his recap of the
multiple choreographic influences that went into the video for “Smooth Criminal,” ranging from Fred Astaire in The Band Wagon to Soul Train to Bugs Bunny to Buster Keaton. The wealth of primo talking-heads
fodder makes this of interest far beyond Jackson fans to anyone curious about the production and marketing of popular music.

The director’s appetite for trivia is contagious. Who remembered that Wesley Snipes made his acting debut in the “Bad” video? Or that the arcane refrain “Shamone!” was Jackson’s homage to Mavis Staples?
Or that the line “Annie, are you OK?” was inspired by the standard name given to CPR demonstration dummies?

It’s obvious that Lee is having as much fun as the audience sitting in with Scorsese and editor Thelma Schoonmaker as they look back over their work on the Bad short 25 years on. Writer Richard Price, who
scripted the film for Scorsese, is – forgive me – priceless, discussing how an asthmatic Italian and an asthmatic Jew were enlisted by Jackson to make a video “to show the brothers that he’s down with them.”
But Lee also gives serious consideration to the ways in which Jackson reaffirmed his connection to the black community.

Despite acknowledging the album’s flaws – everyone, including Stevie Wonder, agrees that his duet with Jackson, “Just Good Friends,” was a dud – the film is not guiltless of hagiography. But the fandom
of interviewees like Mariah Carey, Justin Bieber, Cee Lo Green, Chris Brown and Sheryl Crow, who performed as a big-haired backup singer on the Bad Tour, is generally disarming. (Perhaps the exception
is Kanye West, who seems too self-regarding to really serve someone else’s tribute.)

Arguably, Lee’s one significant misstep is to lurch abruptly – at the end of a meticulous track-by-track reconstruction of the album’s recording and the shooting of its many music videos – to footage of
Jermaine Jackson announcing his brother’s death. Lee then strings together a series of “Where were you when you heard he’d died?” responses, holding the camera on the subjects as they tear up.
This feels manipulative and heavy-handed compared to the stimulating social context and illuminating insights that distinguish the doc and pinpoint it at a key moment in Jackson’s career.

But that’s just nitpicking. As forcibly inserted as they are, the memorials do serve to usher in a stirring assessment of “The Man in the Mirror” as a master class in how to build the perfect anthemic pop song.
Input here comes from co-writers Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett, as well as producer Quincy Jones and choirmaster Andrae Crouch, among others. The knockout closing footage of Jackson performing the
song in a 1988 Wembley Stadium concert, accompanied by 72,000 screaming fans, is the film’s emotional high point.

It’s to Lee’s credit that he doesn’t just go for the famous faces. Instead he digs into every aspect of the music by talking with engineers, arrangers, session musicians, vocal coaches, video actors,
dancer-choreographers, recording industry execs, managers, lawyers, biographers and music journalists. Particularly humorous is plain-speaking Joe Pytka, who directed the “Dirty Diana” and
“The Way You Make Me Feel” videos. But invaluable contributions come from a wide variety of sources.

The film doesn’t shy away from the negatives. It covers the inescapable hype that accompanied the album release; the “Wacko Jacko” stigma; the specter of racism; the animosity toward Jackson in some
circles for his stratospheric success; and the perceived encroachment on sacred terrain when he purchased the Beatles catalogue. Significant time is spent on the goldfish-bowl vulnerability of being in the
spotlight since childhood, reflected in the song “Leave Me Alone,” with its “Gulliver’s Travel”-style, tabloid-nightmare photo-animation video.

Mostly, however, Lee keeps the focus on the extraordinary professional achievement that the album still represents, capturing Jackson at the apex of his quest for full creative independence. Beyond its
value as a deep-probe portrait of the artist, this is a superb account of the music business and an indispensable pop-cultural time capsule.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on September 01, 2012, 01:49:22 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing the docu!

He mentioned about Mavis Staples being the originator of the word 'Shamone', which I found interesting.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/09/b-sides_mavis_staples_talks_pr.html
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Elsa on September 01, 2012, 08:44:32 AM
I read that Bad25 includes a DVD of the July 16, 1988 concert at which Michael met with Princess Diana.  I guess its understandable that its not released on the anniversary but why September 18?  Is it something with the dates - 7’s and 9’s?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on September 04, 2012, 02:18:23 PM
This rolling stones cover is interesting to me, (not 100% sure if it's an actual rolling stone cover) see where it says "It's Alive!"
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9u8ooSeKK1qclx0oo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: paula-c on September 04, 2012, 03:06:12 PM
Quote
It's alive
:suspect:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: applehead250609 on September 15, 2012, 06:06:48 PM
The 25th Anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad.
de Darren Hayes la 12 august 2012 la 04:46 ·


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I was asked to give a quote or two regarding the 25th anniversary of Michael Jackson's 'Bad' album.  If you know anything about me you'd know this is virtually impossible.  I have years of good things to say about this album and so I decided instead to write a blog about the record, from which I'll let someone else try to snip out a few relevant sentences!

 

Bad is without doubt my favourite Michael Jackson album of all time.  It evokes such strong and bittersweet associations for me.  While on one hand it was an astounding musical hurricane of smash hit singles and dazzling visuals - it also occupied that awkward space of being the album that had to follow up the biggest selling album of all time; an expectation I don't think even Michael himself could ever escape.  It's a shame because the album WAS a phenomenal success.   It spawned 5 Billboard Number One singles (a world record) and went on to sell in excess of 35 million copies - it ranks as the 5th greatest seller of all time.  Still, it seemed to this fan that at the time, Bad was unfairly judged simply for not being Thriller.  The irony is, I'm so glad it wasn't.

 

I didn't own Thriller at the time.  Shock! Horror! But it's true.  It was a matter of economics - we couldn't afford it.  By the time I saved up enough money to buy Thriller, the massive moonwalking Grammy Award winning world dominating wave of 3 years had finally passed.  So I waited patiently for the 'next' album. 

 

By the time Bad started gearing up to crack open the sky - I was the prime age to appreciate music.  The year was 1987 and I was 15 years old.   On August 31 that year there was a massive pre-release hype for the entire project and the premiere of the music video was no exception.  It was a prime time television event - 'Michael Jackson : The Magic Returns' and featured the full 17 minute Martin Scorcese directed video for the single 'Bad': Michael's 'sequel' to Thriller - the most successful music video of all time.  No pressure!  Granted, we'd already been treated to the ballad 'I Just Can't Stop Loving You' - but that was not really the big first single. It was like a teaser. Almost a way to take the pressure off.  In the business we'd call that a 'soft release'.  No, the real event was the first big pop song and the accompanying music video for 'Bad'. So the pressure was there!  I  even applied some as a fan.

 

What would it sound like?  What would he look like?  Most importantly - would I love it as I adored Thriller?

The answer was a big massive YES!   Musically - the title track Bad, was FUN. It was up and energetic and I did not see the funk or soul coming.  I did not expect Michael to look the way he did.   I loved his androgyny and his new slick black leather and buckles image.  His hair. His makeup.  He was a proper pop star.  A hero.

 

I was also being bullied quite badly at high school during that time so you can imagine the impact Michael's video for 'Bad' had. His character was taunted and what did he do?  He only shot up into the air and dropped down as a super hero in black leather and buckles.  Then he danced up a storm and sang like an angel spitting out rhetoric and confidence.

 

When I finally got the album, listening to it was a religious experience.  I still remember the paper stock of the album cover, the smell of the ink - the incredible liner notes and of course that amazing Matthew Rolston inner sleeve photo spread with Michael in black sunglasses and turtleneck and through a distorted lens as he contorted for the camera.

The sounds - well they were surreal.  The percussion and aggressive vocals of 'The Way You Make Me Feel' in sharp contrast to the honey sweet harmonies of the backing vocals.  The insanity of 'Speed Demon' - the joy of Stevie Wonder Duet 'Just Good Friends' and of course that goose bump inducing global anthem 'Man in the Mirror'.  It has the violence of 'Dirty Diana' and finally the jewel of Bad's crown : Smooth Criminal.  Forget Billie Jean, keep Thriller. I wanted to see a music video for this adrenaline rush of a song! As a collected works - the songs were a million miles away form the brilliant Thriller. Where Thriller was sparse and conservative in its punches, Bad was a techincolour of sound.  Brooding, angry or sexy.  Nothing on there sounding like a repeat of where he'd been before. 

 

The rest of the campaign unfolded with equal amounts of mystery shock and awe.  Who could have seen 'sexy Michael' on the horizon?  But there he was in the video for 'The Way You Make Me Feel' converting even my rock loving sister into a fan. This previously harmless elfin like child man was suddenly the confident lead in his own West Side Story musical - puffing his chest and chasing the pretty lady down the street.  Every music video was an event.  MTV had just come to Australian television (albeit a 2 hour show 3 times a week late at night!).  But I sat there for every single video premiere at midnight - fumbling with the controls for the VCR to record them so I could watch them over and over again.  Studying the dance moves and obsessing over the details.   Then there was the tour. Long standing fans of mine would know about the transformative experience I had seeing Michael live for the first time.  Brisbane Entertainment centre - November 25 and 28 1987. Famously and rather embarrassingly, the Australian press launched a pretty aggressive negative campaign about Michael back then, informing locals that he would be performing behind a plastic screen to avoid catching germs from Australians.  Ridiculous. But it worked: ticket sales virtually halted.  MJ was supposed to play in stadiums but due to the poor ticket sales in my home town he was downgraded to arenas. Instead of one night in a 40 thousand seat stadium he played 2 nights at a 9 thousand seater.  It's unfathomable now to imagine the King of Pop couldn't sell a concert ticket - but in that moment in time, that was the reality in my home town. 

 

The tour book was extraordinary.  It featured photographs of Michael in a mysterious white pin striped suit with a white Fedora.  Had I missed something?  What video was this from?  I had to wait a year to find out (see the end of this story!).

 

I've written numerous accounts of this night but suffice to say I ended up almost front row by complete accident (my cheap seat field tickets for the stadium randomly exchanged for floor seats right near the stage) and the performance changed my life: it made me know what I wanted to do for the rest of mine.  It was a spectacular show, and I managed to buy tickets to the 2nd show as well - where I saw both Stevie Wonder perform a duet with Michael but also the debut of choreographer and local Brisbane resident Wade Robson as he made his debut on stage at 5 years of age, dancing with Michael during the encore. 

 

During the course of the promo period for Bad, I had all the 12 inch singles on vinyl.  For the record, Man In The Mirror was my favourite artwork - this incredible black and white portrait of Michael with silver ink and black.  The boots from Dirty Diana were also fawned over and I may have worn a pair just like them complete with a Triumph motorcycle buckle belt to my high school prom that year ;).

 

Bad filled up 2 years of my life at high school.  It saw me go from bullied teen with no allies to lead in the school musicals full of confidence and a purpose in life.  It gave me a hero to look up to.  Someone strange, marching to the beat of his own drum and someone proud not to fit into the mould.

 

By the time Bad promo finished up - and the magic felt like it was about to drain out of my world, I saw an ad in a movie magazine that stopped me in my tracks.  'Moonwalker' - starring Michael Jackson. 

 

There he was in that white pin striped suit in a movie poster reminiscent of a George Lucas or Steven Spielberg film.  What did it all mean?  I had to wait until the movie was released.  Luckily because I worked part time in a record store - I managed to score tickets to a press screening and I marked the date on my calendar.  Soon enough the mystery of the white suit was revealed - it was the outfit Michael famously wore in the music video for Smooth Criminal and I embarrassingly and proudly wore a replica version of it to the screening myself.  I felt a bit of a fool catching a bus in the middle of a humid Australian summer day - in full white suit complete with suspenders and blue socks!  I was one of two people dressed up.  The other, the now 6 year old Wade Robson.  He was in a perfect replica of the white gangster suit complete with identical dance moves.  I said hello to him after the screening.  No one else realised who he was but I said to him 'Are you the little boy who danced with Michael Jackson at the concert?'.  He looked up with his big wide brown eyes and smiled knowingly, 'Yes'.  He and his family would eventually be moved to the U.S with Michael's assistance, and under Michael's mentoring, Wayde would grow up to be a choreographer for Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears.  But back then, in 1988 he was still a baby.  I said goodbye to him, and to the Bad era and caught the bus home with my own white fedora in my hand.  Wayde was off to Neverland and I was off on a journey that would put me on stage at that same arena in my home town just 10 years later. 

 

It was the best bus ride of my life.


(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215581_10151153711685056_1008110447_n.jpg)
The original cover for Bad - before the pesky record company forced MJ to change it. I still prefer it.

OMG what a wonderful and emotional life experience,isn't it  :-* ?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: applehead250609 on September 15, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
A little teaser for you girls from the DVD. Dirty Diana  :michael_jackson-1135:  :icon_lol: !!!!!

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Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 15, 2012, 09:51:47 PM
On his toes even . . . I have to say it, geez Louise that is too FREAKIN 
HOT
  :fresse:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: RK on September 15, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Lovely well written article from Darren Hayes. Thanks for posting it applehead.
I especially loved it cause he is a boy from my home town and I could relate to his visual pictures of growing up in this neck of the woods.

I'm lovin' your avatar also applehead. :icon_lol:
 
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: ellyd on September 16, 2012, 12:48:33 AM
I did not find any calendar or French forum - pls feel free to copy or move:

Michael Jackson, les années Bad : inédit, le 18 septembre sur France Ô.

A découvrir le mardi 18 septembre à 20h45 sur la chaîne France Ô, un documentaire inédit de François Chaumont, à l'occasion des 25 ans de l'album Bad. Coproduction : BBC WorldWide France/France Ô/RTBF (80 minutes) . A noter la diffusion ensuite d'un concert.

http://www.leblogtvnews.com/article-michael-jackson-les-annees-bad-inedit-le-18-septembre-sur-france-o-109357363.html (http://www.leblogtvnews.com/article-michael-jackson-les-annees-bad-inedit-le-18-septembre-sur-france-o-109357363.html)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on September 16, 2012, 01:22:50 AM
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It saw me go from bullied teen with no allies to lead in the school musicals full of confidence and a purpose in life.  It gave me a hero to look up to.  Someone strange, marching to the beat of his own drum and someone proud not to fit into the mould.
Yes!! :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Quote
Australian press launched a pretty aggressive negative campaign about Michael back then, informing locals that he would be performing behind a plastic screen to avoid catching germs from Australians.
How could anybody have believed this ridiculousness? :icon_evil:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mjj4ever777 on September 17, 2012, 12:11:20 AM
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The 25th Anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad.
de Darren Hayes la 12 august 2012 la 04:46 ·


(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash4/373149_9443655055_1795667202_n.jpg)

I was asked to give a quote or two regarding the 25th anniversary of Michael Jackson's 'Bad' album.  If you know anything about me you'd know this is virtually impossible.  I have years of good things to say about this album and so I decided instead to write a blog about the record, from which I'll let someone else try to snip out a few relevant sentences!


My sweet sweet Applehead...you always deliver great stories and Michael "tidbits"....Thank you thank you thank you!!!! It is soooooo good to see you again my friend...I missed you so much!!!!

 :bearhug: Sending LOVE to you and yours ...always!!

@BTC...You are one lucky Lady that you got to see the film already!! Thanks for the report, can't wait to see it!! LOVE you too sister!  :bearhug:

 :bearhug:s and LOVE to everyone!!

Michael...LOVE you so much Brother!!  :bearhug:

Bad is without doubt my favourite Michael Jackson album of all time.  It evokes such strong and bittersweet associations for me.  While on one hand it was an astounding musical hurricane of smash hit singles and dazzling visuals - it also occupied that awkward space of being the album that had to follow up the biggest selling album of all time; an expectation I don't think even Michael himself could ever escape.  It's a shame because the album WAS a phenomenal success.   It spawned 5 Billboard Number One singles (a world record) and went on to sell in excess of 35 million copies - it ranks as the 5th greatest seller of all time.  Still, it seemed to this fan that at the time, Bad was unfairly judged simply for not being Thriller.  The irony is, I'm so glad it wasn't.

 

I didn't own Thriller at the time.  Shock! Horror! But it's true.  It was a matter of economics - we couldn't afford it.  By the time I saved up enough money to buy Thriller, the massive moonwalking Grammy Award winning world dominating wave of 3 years had finally passed.  So I waited patiently for the 'next' album. 

 

By the time Bad started gearing up to crack open the sky - I was the prime age to appreciate music.  The year was 1987 and I was 15 years old.   On August 31 that year there was a massive pre-release hype for the entire project and the premiere of the music video was no exception.  It was a prime time television event - 'Michael Jackson : The Magic Returns' and featured the full 17 minute Martin Scorcese directed video for the single 'Bad': Michael's 'sequel' to Thriller - the most successful music video of all time.  No pressure!  Granted, we'd already been treated to the ballad 'I Just Can't Stop Loving You' - but that was not really the big first single. It was like a teaser. Almost a way to take the pressure off.  In the business we'd call that a 'soft release'.  No, the real event was the first big pop song and the accompanying music video for 'Bad'. So the pressure was there!  I  even applied some as a fan.

 

What would it sound like?  What would he look like?  Most importantly - would I love it as I adored Thriller?

The answer was a big massive YES!   Musically - the title track Bad, was FUN. It was up and energetic and I did not see the funk or soul coming.  I did not expect Michael to look the way he did.   I loved his androgyny and his new slick black leather and buckles image.  His hair. His makeup.  He was a proper pop star.  A hero.

 

I was also being bullied quite badly at high school during that time so you can imagine the impact Michael's video for 'Bad' had. His character was taunted and what did he do?  He only shot up into the air and dropped down as a super hero in black leather and buckles.  Then he danced up a storm and sang like an angel spitting out rhetoric and confidence.

 

When I finally got the album, listening to it was a religious experience.  I still remember the paper stock of the album cover, the smell of the ink - the incredible liner notes and of course that amazing Matthew Rolston inner sleeve photo spread with Michael in black sunglasses and turtleneck and through a distorted lens as he contorted for the camera.

The sounds - well they were surreal.  The percussion and aggressive vocals of 'The Way You Make Me Feel' in sharp contrast to the honey sweet harmonies of the backing vocals.  The insanity of 'Speed Demon' - the joy of Stevie Wonder Duet 'Just Good Friends' and of course that goose bump inducing global anthem 'Man in the Mirror'.  It has the violence of 'Dirty Diana' and finally the jewel of Bad's crown : Smooth Criminal.  Forget Billie Jean, keep Thriller. I wanted to see a music video for this adrenaline rush of a song! As a collected works - the songs were a million miles away form the brilliant Thriller. Where Thriller was sparse and conservative in its punches, Bad was a techincolour of sound.  Brooding, angry or sexy.  Nothing on there sounding like a repeat of where he'd been before. 

 

The rest of the campaign unfolded with equal amounts of mystery shock and awe.  Who could have seen 'sexy Michael' on the horizon?  But there he was in the video for 'The Way You Make Me Feel' converting even my rock loving sister into a fan. This previously harmless elfin like child man was suddenly the confident lead in his own West Side Story musical - puffing his chest and chasing the pretty lady down the street.  Every music video was an event.  MTV had just come to Australian television (albeit a 2 hour show 3 times a week late at night!).  But I sat there for every single video premiere at midnight - fumbling with the controls for the VCR to record them so I could watch them over and over again.  Studying the dance moves and obsessing over the details.   Then there was the tour. Long standing fans of mine would know about the transformative experience I had seeing Michael live for the first time.  Brisbane Entertainment centre - November 25 and 28 1987. Famously and rather embarrassingly, the Australian press launched a pretty aggressive negative campaign about Michael back then, informing locals that he would be performing behind a plastic screen to avoid catching germs from Australians.  Ridiculous. But it worked: ticket sales virtually halted.  MJ was supposed to play in stadiums but due to the poor ticket sales in my home town he was downgraded to arenas. Instead of one night in a 40 thousand seat stadium he played 2 nights at a 9 thousand seater.  It's unfathomable now to imagine the King of Pop couldn't sell a concert ticket - but in that moment in time, that was the reality in my home town. 

 

The tour book was extraordinary.  It featured photographs of Michael in a mysterious white pin striped suit with a white Fedora.  Had I missed something?  What video was this from?  I had to wait a year to find out (see the end of this story!).

 

I've written numerous accounts of this night but suffice to say I ended up almost front row by complete accident (my cheap seat field tickets for the stadium randomly exchanged for floor seats right near the stage) and the performance changed my life: it made me know what I wanted to do for the rest of mine.  It was a spectacular show, and I managed to buy tickets to the 2nd show as well - where I saw both Stevie Wonder perform a duet with Michael but also the debut of choreographer and local Brisbane resident Wade Robson as he made his debut on stage at 5 years of age, dancing with Michael during the encore. 

 

During the course of the promo period for Bad, I had all the 12 inch singles on vinyl.  For the record, Man In The Mirror was my favourite artwork - this incredible black and white portrait of Michael with silver ink and black.  The boots from Dirty Diana were also fawned over and I may have worn a pair just like them complete with a Triumph motorcycle buckle belt to my high school prom that year ;).

 

Bad filled up 2 years of my life at high school.  It saw me go from bullied teen with no allies to lead in the school musicals full of confidence and a purpose in life.  It gave me a hero to look up to.  Someone strange, marching to the beat of his own drum and someone proud not to fit into the mould.

 

By the time Bad promo finished up - and the magic felt like it was about to drain out of my world, I saw an ad in a movie magazine that stopped me in my tracks.  'Moonwalker' - starring Michael Jackson. 

 

There he was in that white pin striped suit in a movie poster reminiscent of a George Lucas or Steven Spielberg film.  What did it all mean?  I had to wait until the movie was released.  Luckily because I worked part time in a record store - I managed to score tickets to a press screening and I marked the date on my calendar.  Soon enough the mystery of the white suit was revealed - it was the outfit Michael famously wore in the music video for Smooth Criminal and I embarrassingly and proudly wore a replica version of it to the screening myself.  I felt a bit of a fool catching a bus in the middle of a humid Australian summer day - in full white suit complete with suspenders and blue socks!  I was one of two people dressed up.  The other, the now 6 year old Wade Robson.  He was in a perfect replica of the white gangster suit complete with identical dance moves.  I said hello to him after the screening.  No one else realised who he was but I said to him 'Are you the little boy who danced with Michael Jackson at the concert?'.  He looked up with his big wide brown eyes and smiled knowingly, 'Yes'.  He and his family would eventually be moved to the U.S with Michael's assistance, and under Michael's mentoring, Wayde would grow up to be a choreographer for Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears.  But back then, in 1988 he was still a baby.  I said goodbye to him, and to the Bad era and caught the bus home with my own white fedora in my hand.  Wayde was off to Neverland and I was off on a journey that would put me on stage at that same arena in my home town just 10 years later. 

 

It was the best bus ride of my life.


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The original cover for Bad - before the pesky record company forced MJ to change it. I still prefer it.

OMG what a wonderful and emotional life experience,isn't it  :-* ?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: applehead250609 on September 17, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
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The 25th Anniversary of Michael Jackson's Bad.
de Darren Hayes la 12 august 2012 la 04:46 ·


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I was asked to give a quote or two regarding the 25th anniversary of Michael Jackson's 'Bad' album.  If you know anything about me you'd know this is virtually impossible.  I have years of good things to say about this album and so I decided instead to write a blog about the record, from which I'll let someone else try to snip out a few relevant sentences!


My sweet sweet Applehead...you always deliver great stories and Michael "tidbits"....Thank you thank you thank you!!!! It is soooooo good to see you again my friend...I missed you so much!!!!

 :bearhug: Sending LOVE to you and yours ...always!!

@BTC...You are one lucky Lady that you got to see the film already!! Thanks for the report, can't wait to see it!! LOVE you too sister!  :bearhug:

 :bearhug:s and LOVE to everyone!!

Michael...LOVE you so much Brother!!  :bearhug:

Bad is without doubt my favourite Michael Jackson album of all time.  It evokes such strong and bittersweet associations for me.  While on one hand it was an astounding musical hurricane of smash hit singles and dazzling visuals - it also occupied that awkward space of being the album that had to follow up the biggest selling album of all time; an expectation I don't think even Michael himself could ever escape.  It's a shame because the album WAS a phenomenal success.   It spawned 5 Billboard Number One singles (a world record) and went on to sell in excess of 35 million copies - it ranks as the 5th greatest seller of all time.  Still, it seemed to this fan that at the time, Bad was unfairly judged simply for not being Thriller.  The irony is, I'm so glad it wasn't.

 

I didn't own Thriller at the time.  Shock! Horror! But it's true.  It was a matter of economics - we couldn't afford it.  By the time I saved up enough money to buy Thriller, the massive moonwalking Grammy Award winning world dominating wave of 3 years had finally passed.  So I waited patiently for the 'next' album. 

 

By the time Bad started gearing up to crack open the sky - I was the prime age to appreciate music.  The year was 1987 and I was 15 years old.   On August 31 that year there was a massive pre-release hype for the entire project and the premiere of the music video was no exception.  It was a prime time television event - 'Michael Jackson : The Magic Returns' and featured the full 17 minute Martin Scorcese directed video for the single 'Bad': Michael's 'sequel' to Thriller - the most successful music video of all time.  No pressure!  Granted, we'd already been treated to the ballad 'I Just Can't Stop Loving You' - but that was not really the big first single. It was like a teaser. Almost a way to take the pressure off.  In the business we'd call that a 'soft release'.  No, the real event was the first big pop song and the accompanying music video for 'Bad'. So the pressure was there!  I  even applied some as a fan.

 

What would it sound like?  What would he look like?  Most importantly - would I love it as I adored Thriller?

The answer was a big massive YES!   Musically - the title track Bad, was FUN. It was up and energetic and I did not see the funk or soul coming.  I did not expect Michael to look the way he did.   I loved his androgyny and his new slick black leather and buckles image.  His hair. His makeup.  He was a proper pop star.  A hero.

 

I was also being bullied quite badly at high school during that time so you can imagine the impact Michael's video for 'Bad' had. His character was taunted and what did he do?  He only shot up into the air and dropped down as a super hero in black leather and buckles.  Then he danced up a storm and sang like an angel spitting out rhetoric and confidence.

 

When I finally got the album, listening to it was a religious experience.  I still remember the paper stock of the album cover, the smell of the ink - the incredible liner notes and of course that amazing Matthew Rolston inner sleeve photo spread with Michael in black sunglasses and turtleneck and through a distorted lens as he contorted for the camera.

The sounds - well they were surreal.  The percussion and aggressive vocals of 'The Way You Make Me Feel' in sharp contrast to the honey sweet harmonies of the backing vocals.  The insanity of 'Speed Demon' - the joy of Stevie Wonder Duet 'Just Good Friends' and of course that goose bump inducing global anthem 'Man in the Mirror'.  It has the violence of 'Dirty Diana' and finally the jewel of Bad's crown : Smooth Criminal.  Forget Billie Jean, keep Thriller. I wanted to see a music video for this adrenaline rush of a song! As a collected works - the songs were a million miles away form the brilliant Thriller. Where Thriller was sparse and conservative in its punches, Bad was a techincolour of sound.  Brooding, angry or sexy.  Nothing on there sounding like a repeat of where he'd been before. 

 

The rest of the campaign unfolded with equal amounts of mystery shock and awe.  Who could have seen 'sexy Michael' on the horizon?  But there he was in the video for 'The Way You Make Me Feel' converting even my rock loving sister into a fan. This previously harmless elfin like child man was suddenly the confident lead in his own West Side Story musical - puffing his chest and chasing the pretty lady down the street.  Every music video was an event.  MTV had just come to Australian television (albeit a 2 hour show 3 times a week late at night!).  But I sat there for every single video premiere at midnight - fumbling with the controls for the VCR to record them so I could watch them over and over again.  Studying the dance moves and obsessing over the details.   Then there was the tour. Long standing fans of mine would know about the transformative experience I had seeing Michael live for the first time.  Brisbane Entertainment centre - November 25 and 28 1987. Famously and rather embarrassingly, the Australian press launched a pretty aggressive negative campaign about Michael back then, informing locals that he would be performing behind a plastic screen to avoid catching germs from Australians.  Ridiculous. But it worked: ticket sales virtually halted.  MJ was supposed to play in stadiums but due to the poor ticket sales in my home town he was downgraded to arenas. Instead of one night in a 40 thousand seat stadium he played 2 nights at a 9 thousand seater.  It's unfathomable now to imagine the King of Pop couldn't sell a concert ticket - but in that moment in time, that was the reality in my home town. 

 

The tour book was extraordinary.  It featured photographs of Michael in a mysterious white pin striped suit with a white Fedora.  Had I missed something?  What video was this from?  I had to wait a year to find out (see the end of this story!).

 

I've written numerous accounts of this night but suffice to say I ended up almost front row by complete accident (my cheap seat field tickets for the stadium randomly exchanged for floor seats right near the stage) and the performance changed my life: it made me know what I wanted to do for the rest of mine.  It was a spectacular show, and I managed to buy tickets to the 2nd show as well - where I saw both Stevie Wonder perform a duet with Michael but also the debut of choreographer and local Brisbane resident Wade Robson as he made his debut on stage at 5 years of age, dancing with Michael during the encore. 

 

During the course of the promo period for Bad, I had all the 12 inch singles on vinyl.  For the record, Man In The Mirror was my favourite artwork - this incredible black and white portrait of Michael with silver ink and black.  The boots from Dirty Diana were also fawned over and I may have worn a pair just like them complete with a Triumph motorcycle buckle belt to my high school prom that year ;).

 

Bad filled up 2 years of my life at high school.  It saw me go from bullied teen with no allies to lead in the school musicals full of confidence and a purpose in life.  It gave me a hero to look up to.  Someone strange, marching to the beat of his own drum and someone proud not to fit into the mould.

 

By the time Bad promo finished up - and the magic felt like it was about to drain out of my world, I saw an ad in a movie magazine that stopped me in my tracks.  'Moonwalker' - starring Michael Jackson. 

 

There he was in that white pin striped suit in a movie poster reminiscent of a George Lucas or Steven Spielberg film.  What did it all mean?  I had to wait until the movie was released.  Luckily because I worked part time in a record store - I managed to score tickets to a press screening and I marked the date on my calendar.  Soon enough the mystery of the white suit was revealed - it was the outfit Michael famously wore in the music video for Smooth Criminal and I embarrassingly and proudly wore a replica version of it to the screening myself.  I felt a bit of a fool catching a bus in the middle of a humid Australian summer day - in full white suit complete with suspenders and blue socks!  I was one of two people dressed up.  The other, the now 6 year old Wade Robson.  He was in a perfect replica of the white gangster suit complete with identical dance moves.  I said hello to him after the screening.  No one else realised who he was but I said to him 'Are you the little boy who danced with Michael Jackson at the concert?'.  He looked up with his big wide brown eyes and smiled knowingly, 'Yes'.  He and his family would eventually be moved to the U.S with Michael's assistance, and under Michael's mentoring, Wayde would grow up to be a choreographer for Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears.  But back then, in 1988 he was still a baby.  I said goodbye to him, and to the Bad era and caught the bus home with my own white fedora in my hand.  Wayde was off to Neverland and I was off on a journey that would put me on stage at that same arena in my home town just 10 years later. 

 

It was the best bus ride of my life.


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The original cover for Bad - before the pesky record company forced MJ to change it. I still prefer it.

OMG what a wonderful and emotional life experience,isn't it  :-* ?

Hy mj4ever777  :bearhug: !!!!
I try my best you know  :beerchug:   .Even if this song is a response for Michael from Siedah to his I just can't stop loving you  ,it's also my response to all your love you showed me.Thank you very much and please don't miss Michael's jacket from Bad era lol  :icon_e_wink: .


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Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on September 18, 2012, 01:18:13 AM
My copy arrived yesterday!

EDIT: Watched the dvd last night - amazing energy!  I'd never seen MJ performing Bad before - pretty cool.

(Enjoyment spoiled by someone in the room asking 'Where did it all go wrong?' and proceeding to talk about cosmetic surgery, drugs and being broke, then that person leaving the room, not wanting to share it with the crazy woman who casts doubt over these 'well known facts'.  :icon_e_sad: )
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on September 22, 2012, 12:02:11 AM
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A little teaser for you girls from the DVD. Dirty Diana  :michael_jackson-1135:  :icon_lol: !!!!!

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(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/emoticones-msn-amoureux-baiser-confus.gif)
That's one of the hottest, most original and artistic stage moves ever ! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur-neon-lumineux.gif)
Mike using the mike as a double metaphor to symbolize , through a ballet-like dance move, 2 objects of his passion and LOVE: the music and the woman. it's short but so EXPRESSIVE! Just PURRRfect! GENIUS!

And Dirty DIANA is a VERY fav of mine!!
Thanks for posting this @AppleHead  :bearhug:


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Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on September 22, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
So agreed! How intensely yet simply he communicates!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on September 22, 2012, 12:33:20 AM
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So agreed! How intensely yet simply he communicates!
:icon_e_wink:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 22, 2012, 11:56:51 AM
Loving the D. Hayes story.  Thanks for posting it.  I almost feel like I was there.  :bearhug:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on September 22, 2012, 11:37:53 PM
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the DVD, etc. I pre-ordered mine when it became available and I received a noticed that it was shipped and that I'd have it by Monday 9/24. I feel so jipped because I paid early and I have to wait. I might have to just go down and buy another copy tomorrow. :)

I can't wait to watch the concert and hear the unreleased songs.

MJFan - I've wondered if there is more meaning to the dates too. Nothing so far has been by coincidence.

Blessings!


Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: BeTheChange on September 23, 2012, 07:43:41 AM
@applehead...thanks SO much for sharing the Darren Hayes article, I LOVED it! Being a lifelong 'fan' of Mike's...and being the exact same age as Darren...it was like a trip down memory lane.  Mike provided SO many magical moments to my (often troubled) childhood and youth....no matter what was going on around me, Mike's existence was (many times) my escape from my own.

To this day, I don't fully understand the magnetism I feel towards him...and felt towards him from such an early age.  Reading others' experiences that relate to my own always make my soul smile.

Thanks again applehead...I enjoy seeing you around  :icon_razz:

With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: finfin on September 23, 2012, 01:11:47 PM
 


                  The silence from all the Jackson family on Twitter about Bad25 is deafening, plus nothing for a long
                  time from TMZ - rather odd/strange??
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on September 23, 2012, 01:29:18 PM
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                  The silence from all the Jackson family on Twitter about Bad25 is deafening, plus nothing for a long
                  time from TMZ - rather odd/strange??

Something REALLY fishy going on !!!  :animal0017:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on September 25, 2012, 02:24:47 PM
I just LOVE this guy!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vRZuW01g4Q&feature=g-all-lik[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: applehead250609 on September 25, 2012, 03:56:16 PM
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My copy arrived yesterday!

EDIT: Watched the dvd last night - amazing energy!  I'd never seen MJ performing Bad before - pretty cool.

(Enjoyment spoiled by someone in the room asking 'Where did it all go wrong?' and proceeding to talk about cosmetic surgery, drugs and being broke, then that person leaving the room, not wanting to share it with the crazy woman who casts doubt over these 'well known facts'.  :icon_e_sad: )  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_question:

Curls what do you mean by that ? About what person are you talking about? It's about someone from the DVD or about someone in the room with you? Strange,cause I really don't understand what this Bad25 DVD has to do with cosmetic surgery,drugs,sudden death and his personal life,cause I thought it's about the personality not the person,lol  :icon_e_confused:  :animal0017: !!!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: applehead250609 on September 25, 2012, 04:31:59 PM
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A little teaser for you girls from the DVD. Dirty Diana  :michael_jackson-1135:  :icon_lol: !!!!!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_laor1kbOMU1qcsr0lo1_r3_500.gif)
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/emoticones-msn-amoureux-baiser-confus.gif)
That's one of the hottest, most original and artistic stage moves ever ! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur-neon-lumineux.gif)
Mike using the mike as a double metaphor to symbolize , through a ballet-like dance move, 2 objects of his passion and LOVE: the music and the woman. it's short but so EXPRESSIVE! Just PURRRfect! GENIUS!

And Dirty DIANA is a VERY fav of mine!!
Thanks for posting this @AppleHead  :bearhug:

(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeurs-couleurs.gif)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S40XeotCyOg&feature=share[/youtube]

You're welcome  :icon_e_wink:  :beerchug:  !!!!!


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Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on September 25, 2012, 05:04:46 PM
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My copy arrived yesterday!

EDIT: Watched the dvd last night - amazing energy!  I'd never seen MJ performing Bad before - pretty cool.

(Enjoyment spoiled by someone in the room asking 'Where did it all go wrong?' and proceeding to talk about cosmetic surgery, drugs and being broke, then that person leaving the room, not wanting to share it with the crazy woman who casts doubt over these 'well known facts'.  :icon_e_sad: )  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_question:

Curls what do you mean by that ? About what person are you talking about? It's about someone from the DVD or about someone in the room with you? Strange,cause I really don't understand what this Bad25 DVD has to do with cosmetic surgery,drugs,sudden death and his personal life,cause I thought it's about the personality not the person,lol  :icon_e_confused:  :animal0017: !!!!

Oh Applehead, I'm sorry, I didn't explain that very well!  It was someone in the room with me who asked that question (watching the Bad Wembley concert, not Spike Lee's docu that I think you might've thought I was referring to).  But you're right, neither has anything to do with surgery, drugs etc but in this person's mind, anything related to MJ has to come back round to surgery, drugs etc.  And I am the 'crazy woman'??  I think not!

P.S. I see by your sig vids that you've been studying the concert dvd! Great! I just love to see MJ dancing (albeit briefly) with women and I might just have to put Blood on the Dance Floor on again now!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: RK on September 26, 2012, 04:23:18 AM

I would guess TMZ are reading here still. Just saw this on twitter and it made me think of FinFin's comment about no word from the family or TMZ regarding BAD25. For the record...doesn't seem like it was a 'bad' accident at all. They drove the car home after it.

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Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on September 27, 2012, 03:19:56 AM
Just noticed this.

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So L.L. Cool J. released “I’m Bad"  (Single) on June 13, 1987, and MJ released “Bad” (Single) on Sept 7, 1987. 
Wow, pretty interesting competition!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVDfyc2lh4Q&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LL_Cool_J
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: wishingstar on September 27, 2012, 08:01:12 AM
@MJonmind.....the glory days of rap....great to start the morning with : )
So, with lyrics like, "....crush you like a jelly bean...." and "....Oreos eat Cool J cookies....."
do you think Cool was hungry when they filmed this  :icon_lol:
dang  :icon_eek: I'm hungry now.........

Thanks for the post MJonmind......too great.

Blessings
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MaryK on September 27, 2012, 10:54:39 AM
Hello everyone.

I was wondering if anyone could provide me with the lyrics to "Free".

I am really trying hard to figure out some parts of the lyrics but Michael is mumbling too often  :'(

Sorry Michael, but it´s true.  :icon_lol:

So I´d appreciate any help from you guys.

 :bearhug:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: flory24 on September 27, 2012, 02:16:02 PM
I can't make out all of the lyrics but this is what I have so far:

Anybody feel free to add or correct what I posted below


Verse 1: You're the one that I adore (ya) (Kiss me once?) and don't ignore me Tell me things, You often say I do. All the things I want to say and, Tell me things you (are for me or offer me?), and All the (lies ?) you have (to say?) I do. Ooh, ooh, ooh, babe.
Chorus 1: Yesterday is when I fell down and, You came to (my side to lift me off the ground?) and you often say that you love me and all the things I do.
Chorus 2: That's why I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I made mine?
Verse 2: You're the one, That I adore Just kiss me once, I won’t ignore ya. Feel the (vibe that, I have in?) mind. If you are the one for me, Just tell me twice and I will see the Heart and soul of all the things I feel. Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Chorus 1: Yesterday when I fell down, I start tryna make since of when I was around. You know life is just a thing you don’t- That’s the way I do.
 Chorus 2: Because I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. I (made mine?) Babe. Alright. Uh, huh.
Alright.
Chorus 1: Uh uh oh yeah, yeah. Yesterday is when I fell down, I start tryna make since of when I was around. You start tryna to make a way to see What's this thing I do.
Chorus 2: Be my dream cause I want to be Free, free like the wind blows, To fly away, just like a sparrow The feel, of letting my hair blow, To take my time wherever I go. 
Bridge: I want to be Free, free like the wind babe, Where ever I go I take my time baby Take my time where ever I go. I want to be free, Free like the wind All in my mind Whhoooaaa, Whooaaaa baby To be free I want to free I want to be me, huh, huh Ohhh oh baby Where ever I go Ooh! Got to be free-eeee *laughter* Speaks: Rodney, you are so silly.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on October 04, 2012, 12:54:50 PM
Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!   :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 04, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
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I just LOVE this guy!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vRZuW01g4Q&feature=g-all-lik[/youtube]


I absolutely can't stand this guy! I used to follow him on twitter, but he is just so outrageously incorrect with his assumptions.

It's a shame really. This Aussie boy has so much passion and love for MJ but as he is a non believer it means his interpretation of MJ, the estate, his music is just a 'bit off' and 'misguided'

It comes through in this interview when he speaks of the estate an VHS quality, but most of all I am talking about his rants on twitter as well as his YT channel.

From my past observations, he is quite informative and knows a lot about about MJ, but his interpretation is off. As mentioned, I used to follow (too strong of a word) him, but I gave him the flick, about the time TMZ was going off, because the young Aussie got into mud slinging at the estate and slight MJ family bashing that I didn't feel comfortable with. With him being a non believer his understanding of the estate is somewhat primitive.



Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: SimPattyK on October 06, 2012, 03:52:24 PM
I love the guy anyway.
He is so passionate about "MJ-the artist" and he defends his image better than many would/could do it.
Whether there is a death hoax or not, MJ needs more fans like this!  :icon_e_wink:
He has verve and style.
He's a good guy and so innocent in his lack of deeper knowledge about what really is going on...
I don't know/care what he says on twitter, I like his video anyway.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 06, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
Oh' he has amazing passion abt MJ, as displayed in this vid. Don't get me wrong I admire that.

It's his YT and Twitter that put me off. The great thing is he has one hella good surprise coming up for him! BAM!

I sometimes imagine the non believer fans and what it will be like for them. Not like us, we are expecting it.

It will knock our socks off still, I am sure. But imagine the people who aren't expecting it? The shock will be unmeasurable!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 06, 2012, 06:40:33 PM
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Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!   :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?

I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.
I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:
//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"
"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say"
"Is that boy still alive?"//

Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: diggyon on October 07, 2012, 03:22:24 AM
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Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!   :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?

I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.
I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:
//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"
"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say"
"Is that boy still alive?"//

Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.

I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on October 07, 2012, 10:32:41 AM
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Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!   :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?

I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.
I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:
//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"
"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say"
"Is that boy still alive?"//

Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.

I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!

I think Michael won't stop writing and making music not only for him but for others performers too including Omer Bhatti but perform on stage is a different story I think if he BAMS he will only perform in special occasions like Music Awards and things like that apart from filming that will be one of his passions.

ps: It seems I am able to predict his future :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 07, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
My gut tells me he won't perform again and that he'll be directing things behind camera / behind scenes musically and film

I think still he'll still new music as we know he has 100s of recordings that can be put together to create albums.

This is mere speculation I course have no idea what MJ will do.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on October 07, 2012, 08:10:20 PM
MJ is currently performing so no, he is not done. The hoax isn't over so MJ is not done performing, just by definition.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 08, 2012, 07:11:01 AM
Bec, do you think you will see him perform on stage again? Not in disguise, not a cameo, as traditional KOP MJ?

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely hope to God that I am incorrect!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on October 08, 2012, 11:47:06 AM
I don't know but I think it is irrelevant. The hoax is the performance. Whether he has a song n dance act planned for the end of it seems inconsequential to me. His career as showman encompasses so much more then just song n dance. It's like worrying whether he will ever perform Billy Jean again.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: ellyd on October 08, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
Yes.
One reason why we try to understand the whole man, not only KoP.
KoP is such a tiny and insignificant facet on lightman.
MJ's art is so much more powerfully eloquent than being on-stage spot on swinging his own hips.
He's swinging the world now.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on October 08, 2012, 11:56:59 AM
You know, on a side note, regarding the new songs on Bad25, has anyone else noticed that the lyrics seem to be nonsense strings of words designed to showcase the relevant hoaxy lyrics? I can't make out many of the lyrics in these 6 new songs but the few I can decipher do not form complete thoughts or sentences. The words that are clear beyond the song titles are those which are hoaxy.

Al Capone is probably the best example of this.

"why did you let him get away"

"no one told her, no one ever showed her"

"no one should be grieving this way"

The rest seems to be either nonsense strings of words or unintelligible.

Price of Fame, the lyrics are incomplete thoughts or parts of a story line which don't connect to each other and then suddenly you have these super-dooper hoaxy phrases buried in the middle.

The other songs are similar, to my ears so far anyway. Anyone else?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: diggyon on October 08, 2012, 12:20:41 PM
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Love, love, loving 'Price of Fame'!  Can't get enough of its totally amazing rhythm and what about when MJ sings 'my father never lies'?  I tried to copy it and sounded like a horse neighing!!   :icon_lol: Anyone recognise the bit I mean?

I love Price of Fame too Curls, I am listening to it right now and Michael's voice sounds very deep very adult (different from the Bad oldest songs' voice)  what brings me to the theory said by some of you that some of the songs included in Bad 25 are very recent.
I know this has been posted but take a look again to its lyrics:
//"I want a face no one can recognize, in disguise"
"I’d like to take some time and get away, then they’ll say"
"Is that boy still alive?"//

Is this hoax that getaway Michael is talking about in this song? I think so.

I thought Michael won't perform after the Bam, but it seems that he will, but from behind the curtain!

I think Michael won't stop writing and making music not only for him but for others performers too including Omer Bhatti but perform on stage is a different story I think if he BAMS he will only perform in special occasions like Music Awards and things like that apart from filming that will be one of his passions.

ps: It seems I am able to predict his future :LolLolLolLol:

Lucky you!  :LolLolLolLol: I don't even give it a try because all I can see is a total black out!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on October 09, 2012, 09:11:45 AM
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You know, on a side note, regarding the new songs on Bad25, has anyone else noticed that the lyrics seem to be nonsense strings of words designed to showcase the relevant hoaxy lyrics? I can't make out many of the lyrics in these 6 new songs but the few I can decipher do not form complete thoughts or sentences. The words that are clear beyond the song titles are those which are hoaxy.

Al Capone is probably the best example of this.

"why did you let him get away"

"no one told her, no one ever showed her"

"no one should be grieving this way"

The rest seems to be either nonsense strings of words or unintelligible.

Price of Fame, the lyrics are incomplete thoughts or parts of a story line which don't connect to each other and then suddenly you have these super-dooper hoaxy phrases buried in the middle.

The other songs are similar, to my ears so far anyway. Anyone else?


Get what you are saying. Was listening to it again in the car on the way to work and found myself saying, "Is he speaking mumbo jumbo on purpose?" As I wasn't behind a computer, I was struggling to work out what the lyrics were and was busting to get to a computer to figure out some lyrics. Also in two of the songs, not only mumbo jumbo but almost like deliberate mumbling. As if intentional to let hoaxy words / phrases stand out."



While I am posting about songs / bad 25, I may as well add some thoughts about some of the songs. Would love to hear some thoughts from you guys. I mean we all hear different things when we listen to something. This is what I hear. Would love some other comments too.


Don't be Messin' Round
Reminds me of Rock my world, with the piano. The backing track or beats in the background remind me of Front snippets. JMO, but to me the vocals sound like they were recently recorded. And the music does not have an 80's bad era feel. Two things I love: First, the "Dont stop til you get enough - feeling with the outro as the song finishes, as its cute. I'm referring to the music and the "da daw da, da da dow's" Secondly and most of all I LOVE the hoaxy lyrics in the first verse  :icon_mrgreen: Not only is MJ alive, but he's making music for us!!


I'm so Blue
Frikken beautiful song! In this song I personally have trouble distinguishing if the vocals sound like a young or a mature MJ. But one thing for sure is the music itself wasn't orchestrated in the 80's. It has a catchy, modern easy listening vibe to it. I like the way the Stevie Wonder-esque (and perhaps it was him himself) harmonica is worked into the track. It makes me wonder if MJ put this in to guise the fact its such a modern sounding song that doesn't sound like bad era at all, but at least the Harmonica, gives it that Stevie touch that was popular at the time of bad. (Just good friends & That's what friends are for, etc) Or perhaps no guise is intended, perhaps MJ just loves the sound and wants to reference a song (the duet with Stevie) from the original album... All in all, the song is incredibly modern.


Song Groove - To me this is an obvious older track (speaking of the music only here) the music is reminiscent of the 80s and of bad era. But perhaps remixed / remastered. The violin part at 3:06 sounds like a modern addition or edit to the track. Moving to the vocals, to me, and again JMO as this is what I hear, I hear a mature MJ singing here. His voice sounds more crunchy and worn, (not a bad thing, having trouble describing what I mean) but the way he crunches his voice, reminds me of mature MJ.

Side note: WITHOUT raising a pro life / choice debate, I have to say I don't get people all over the place (incl fans on MJJC) jumping up and down about MJ singing a song about Abortion, saying "He shouldn't have gone there, its a women's issue" I think the moral of the story is that it is in fact the priests daughter, so it raises hypocrisy issues. Also everyone has the right to an opinion regardless of gender. I also wonder if MJ feels more comfortable releasing such controversial subject matter because he now is a parent? Either way, I applaud MJ for 'going there' and really, this song is no different than many of his other tracks, some incredibly popular that address controversial subjects. The prolife / choice debate was current in the 80's and still is today.  :smiley_abuv:


Free - LOL at the deliberate mumbling. Hilarious. Music style is modern. Can't work out if the vocals are from a young or an older MJ. However the subject itself reminds me of the hoax and the freedom / quiet MJ is enjoying this side of Bam, so I'm thinking it was written and sang more recently. I think the ha ha Rodney you are so silly, was recorded when he was younger and added in at the end.


Price of Fame - Great song! To me the music sounds circa 80's. Heavy synthesizer, etc. But the vocals sound like a mature MJ and of course his reference to people wondering if he is dead only confirms it was written post hoax.  Yep, he's alive and kicking and making music for us!! :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen: :icon_mrgreen:  Does anyone have comments on this particular lyric “Just sign your name on the dotted line, you’ll be fine” – that always bothers me...


Al Capone - I hear 80's, heavily synthesized, BAD reminiscent music. In fact really reminds me of Smooth Criminal in both the verses and the chorus. I almost think of this song as Smooth Criminal - Part two. However even though this songs sounds SOOOOOO 80's to me this is both a recently written and recently recorded song. Lots of voice crunching. Mumbling. And YES BEC, lots of mumbo jumbo in between his hoax messages. Have to say the line "No one should be grieving this way" makes me smile ear to ear, regardless if I can't undertsand half of the song, LOL! I wonder if its deliberate. Bottom line, I LOVE this track! Thanks MJ xx

Anyone know what MJ is referring to when he says something about "Cold as ice" ?? Any thoughts there?

Also the line "How could you let him get away" is great... I think of people who know MJ hoaxed his death. (not in on the hoax, but have worked it out) perhaps some of his enemies. They are thinking "How did he get away!?!"

Love Streetwalker and Fly Away obviously not new. I LOVE the remixes of all of the songs.

I love the 4 year reference in one of the bad remixes. Wouldn't mind knowing what that Latin is all about? Anyone know the lyrics / translation?

Anyhooo, that is what I hear so far. I have only listened to the album 5 times. So I am sure I will hear more as I listen to it over and over. Again, we all hear different things, so would love perspective of others. I could be completely wrong on my take of it.


and of course, I just have to add...


MJ if you are reading - THANK YOU FOR SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GIFT!!!  :bearhug: Definitely helping some of us here get through rough patches this side of Bam! YOU are a music genius and we are blessed to have your music for so many generations XXX
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on October 09, 2012, 01:02:57 PM
I've had these 8 songs on repeat in the truck since I got the album, great fun, great music.

The repeated references to "cold as ice", I dunno for sure but I can't help but be reminded of the fans who profess to love MJ so much and yet state things like "if he faked his death I would lose respect for him", "if this hoax is all an ARG I would lose respect for him" etc, especially when they are accompanied by "wanting me to be your friend", remind me of exchanges with Front. Lines such as "she swore she'd love me for a lifetime/she left me for another man" remind me of his fans who think he's the emaciated dead drug addict.

But I may be misinterpreting/seeing connections where there aren't any. Just first hoaxy impressions.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 09, 2012, 07:06:57 PM
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I've had these thoughts running through my mind as well. IS Michael mumbling on purpose or did the Estate release demo songs that were truly unfinished? I say that because of what we've been hearing about the songs not being complete. But taken into consideration all of the odd things, like the Paris references, etc., I'd say they must have been intentional. I'm confused but thankful to have these songs.

I love those songs noted above too - Blue makes my heart melt. Al Capone is sexy. Don't know why but I also love it when he crunches (I like that term) his voice. Price of Fame makes me think hoax and his life in general. Some of the songs, as I mentioned also before, feel more recent. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I'm also excited that the Concert DVD has gone #1. It's past time for Michael to reap the rewards of his lifetime of labor.

Blessings to you.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: curls on October 10, 2012, 01:42:59 AM
To tell the truth, I'm just listening and getting to know these songs as they are, in the moment, without my hoax hat on - and trying to make out the lyrics!

MJ's song words have often been difficult to hear clearly, maybe because he wants them to blend in as another layer of the music, rather than standing out on their own.

Oh, and much to my surprise I kind of like the Speed Demon remix. I don't normally like re-mixes of classics (why mess about if you can't make it better?!) and I have to say I'm not keen on the Bad remixes, but for some reason I'm finding SD is catchy!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: CC on October 18, 2012, 12:11:48 PM
i´m listening BAD25 on facebook app and sound great is funny that all the cds duration is 3:04 hs LOL
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on October 18, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
This was shown live on "The View" this morning.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P0toSi4nbE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on October 28, 2012, 11:24:37 PM
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write him a dear john letter

 :thjajaja121:  :suspect:  :icon_e_surprised:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cimoNqiulUE[/youtube]


 :moonwalk_:   :smiley_abuv:

Dear MoonWalker-

Your Free! Fly!

Peace-

Oh Hi SEHF..lol
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 22, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
Who else is watching?! :icon_razz:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on November 22, 2012, 09:02:21 PM
I am!  Commercial break!  LOVE THIS!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 22, 2012, 09:03:08 PM
It's not on yet in my time zone but I cut my dinner with family short because I thought it started last hour. oh well, I'll be ready when it starts - I think 1/2 hour from now :)

Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: BeTheChange on November 22, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
I'm watching it as well...too bad quite a lot has been cut out.  If I remember correctly, the whole thing was 2+ hours.

I'm really glad I was able to see the full docu at TIFF.


With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 22, 2012, 09:47:11 PM
that "crying" part just now was kinda awkward.......
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mindseye on November 22, 2012, 10:29:53 PM
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that "crying" part just now was kinda awkward.......


I agree - the silence. I guess to show how everyone is still in disbelief, speechless, then the cry without tears, and Branca wiping away a tear that wasn't there.  :suspect:

Interesting sequence... Leave me alone, to Jermaine's announcement, to the silence, followed by Danyel Smith saying about his death 'we should all be ashamed'


Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: iamamjbeliever on November 22, 2012, 10:36:06 PM
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that "crying" part just now was kinda awkward.......

LOL I cringed when they did that, its weird when you have a different perspective
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on November 22, 2012, 11:08:20 PM
If anyone now or in the future has an online source for viewing this documentary, please post a link on this thread.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Loveunited on November 23, 2012, 01:33:44 AM


 BAD 25...something at beginning, "Spike Lee Joint" (at least that's how I remember it. Then Randy Jackson Jr on twitter posts
Randy Jackson Jr. ‏ @ randyjacksonjr
I hope everyone is watching the Bad 25 documentary right now... Amazing joint


Joint.........Production???? :multiplespotting:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on November 23, 2012, 02:13:37 AM
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that "crying" part just now was kinda awkward.......


I agree - the silence. I guess to show how everyone is still in disbelief, speechless, then the cry without tears, and Branca wiping away a tear that wasn't there.  :suspect:

Interesting sequence... Leave me alone, to Jermaine's announcement, to the silence, followed by Danyel Smith saying about his death 'we should all be ashamed'
Everyone looked genuinely upset...except Branca who didn't look the least bit upset. I laughed so hard at that pitiful tear he tried to pretend into existence.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on November 23, 2012, 02:37:04 AM
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If anyone now or in the future has an online source for viewing this documentary, please post a link on this thread.
I had to work tonight so I missed it, but I've been watching the German parts available.
At 5:29 they explain about the Annie dummy for smooth criminal.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv_4GROFz8g&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Loveunited on November 23, 2012, 09:06:18 AM
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If anyone now or in the future has an online source for viewing this documentary, please post a link on this thread.
I had to work tonight so I missed it, but I've been watching the German parts available.
At 5:29 they explain about the Annie dummy for smooth criminal.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv_4GROFz8g&feature=related[/youtube]

Thank you so much for posting this!  I really want to see the full version, there are several bits in the video you posted that weren't in the edited version for TV last night  on  television here.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on November 23, 2012, 09:15:48 AM


I believe the full version will be available on dvd in February. 
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: hesouttamylife on November 23, 2012, 09:26:07 AM
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that "crying" part just now was kinda awkward.......


I agree - the silence. I guess to show how everyone is still in disbelief, speechless, then the cry without tears, and Branca wiping away a tear that wasn't there.  :suspect:

Interesting sequence... Leave me alone, to Jermaine's announcement, to the silence, followed by Danyel Smith saying about his death 'we should all be ashamed'

 :thjajaja121: Branca’s dry tears.  I love how they zoomed in at them one at a time on que.  That’s a wrap!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on November 23, 2012, 10:13:32 AM
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If anyone now or in the future has an online source for viewing this documentary, please post a link on this thread.

Try this link bec  http://www.hulu.com/watch/427627

I found it on twitter but I can't watch it since I'm in Canada, it says it's only available in the U.S. so hopefully it'll work for you.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: RK on November 23, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Here's another one....

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/ (http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/)
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on November 23, 2012, 10:21:18 AM
Thanks RK, that link works for me!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Jos on November 23, 2012, 10:40:31 AM
 :woohoo2: Thanks RK!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: bec on November 23, 2012, 10:54:37 AM
Oh you guys are  so great! Thank you for the link(s)!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: wishingstar on November 23, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
That documentary was great...although very edited I think.......however, what in the world was up with showing the CPR dummy and talking about that being "Annie" from Smooth Criminal......I choked so hard, lol.  They were talking about how important it is to assess the person before giving CPR and that Michael knew this, etc.....I was stunned really. 
Also the clock on the Hayvenhurst home.....did I see 2:26?  As in the death time?  Things were just strange with this documentary.  But, I do think it was really well done.  I enjoyed it very much. 
Two signs that were hanging at Hayvenhurst:

Those Who Reach, Touch the Stars
and
Follow Your Dreams, Wherever They May Lead

Thanks for the links....I'll watch more over the weekend.....
Blessings
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mattie on November 23, 2012, 12:29:41 PM
Saw it....THANKS :icon_razz:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: marumjj on November 23, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
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Here's another one....

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/ (http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/)

Thanks RK be downloading it now                :bearhug:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: MJonmind on November 23, 2012, 01:49:26 PM
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Here's another one....

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/ (http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/)
Thanks!  Just finished watching it! It was great, except never enough shots of MJ...
Yes, so much made of the Annie are you okay, that it did seem like a hint for sure.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mindseye on November 23, 2012, 02:12:34 PM
Thanks RK, I may watch it again.

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That documentary was great...although very edited I think.......however, what in the world was up with showing the CPR dummy and talking about that being "Annie" from Smooth Criminal......I choked so hard, lol.  They were talking about how important it is to assess the person before giving CPR and that Michael knew this, etc.....I was stunned really. 
Also the clock on the Hayvenhurst home.....did I see 2:26?  As in the death time?  Things were just strange with this documentary.  But, I do think it was really well done.  I enjoyed it very much. 
Two signs that were hanging at Hayvenhurst:

Those Who Reach, Touch the Stars
and
Follow Your Dreams, Wherever They May Lead

Thanks for the links....I'll watch more over the weekend.....
Blessings

Yes I noticed this too. MJ saying about Hayvenhurst - it starts in this room and spreads to the whole world.

Here are a few things I thought about...

Looked to me MJ was part of this, it was like a reintroduction to MJ the person versus the tabloid media BS. Showing the different sides of Michael the man, genius, leader, inventive…  A few mentions I thought might be hoaxy. OR maybe it was to get fans and ppl thinking about it again or questioning things?

•   says “no one understands me”
•   The movie Third Man was the inspiration for the look of smooth criminal.
•   Discussed distinctive Snap of fingers
•   While showing the mirror photo, Voice trainer mentions MJs different tones, vocal range, and about a phone call where he spoke in low tone, which said he preferred not to use. (I was thinking about use of doubles or illusion)
•   Leave me alone, ahead of its time, collage of images meticulously cut and arranged, about tabloid media… he says ppl don’t know me and believe the media. And the cpr dummy ... strange.
•   Next the footage of Jermaine’s announcement, followed by silence, Danyel Smith says ‘we should all be ashamed’ should look at ourselves, the man in the mirror… and that’s the song ppl think of after his death. Branca said ‘Michael took it and made it his own’. Then discussion about make that change… emphasizing the word CHANGE.
•   Footage of him singing Another Part of Me … This part of the song…
“We're Sendin' Out
A Major Love
And This Is Our
Message To You
The Planets Are Linin' Up
We're Bringin' Brighter Days
They're All In Line
Waitin' For You
So Look The Truth
You're Just Another Part Of Me . .”

Man in the Mirror, Ending of the film with MJ in the light, arms out just as in 'This is it' film.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 23, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
Thank you for all of these comments - I watched all but the last few minutes so will definitely watch this again through one of these links.

I was so mesmerized by this documentary that I didn't think anything hoax. At least not until the CPR Dummy came up - then I started thinking about the interview and the journalist that was on TV talking about the CPR Dummy in reference to this song.

Then they showed Jermaine and his announcement and that whipped me back into hoax mode - thanks Mr Lee :) I think the tears once again humanized Michael and showed how well respected he is among his peers.

Overall I think it was an exceptional documentary of the making of BAD but even moreso it was an exceptional behind the scenes look at Michael the man - something that he has been showing us since 6/25/09. The true Michael. And I loved it.

Thank you, Michael, and thank you, Mr Lee. I am hopeful that the documentary reached hearts and minds of those that are misinformed about who you are and I'm hopeful that it changed their perception.

Blessings
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: wishingstar on November 23, 2012, 02:45:15 PM
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Thanks RK, I may watch it again.

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That documentary was great...although very edited I think.......however, what in the world was up with showing the CPR dummy and talking about that being "Annie" from Smooth Criminal......I choked so hard, lol.  They were talking about how important it is to assess the person before giving CPR and that Michael knew this, etc.....I was stunned really. 
Also the clock on the Hayvenhurst home.....did I see 2:26?  As in the death time?  Things were just strange with this documentary.  But, I do think it was really well done.  I enjoyed it very much. 
Two signs that were hanging at Hayvenhurst:

Those Who Reach, Touch the Stars
and
Follow Your Dreams, Wherever They May Lead

Thanks for the links....I'll watch more over the weekend.....
Blessings

Yes I noticed this too. MJ saying about Hayvenhurst - it starts in this room and spreads to the whole world.

Here are a few things I thought about...

Looked to me MJ was part of this, it was like a reintroduction to MJ the person versus the tabloid media BS. Showing the different sides of Michael the man, genius, leader, inventive…  A few mentions I thought might be hoaxy. OR maybe it was to get fans and ppl thinking about it again or questioning things?

•   says “no one understands me”
•   The movie Third Man was the inspiration for the look of smooth criminal.
•   Discussed distinctive Snap of fingers
•   While showing the mirror photo, Voice trainer mentions MJs different tones, vocal range, and about a phone call where he spoke in low tone, which said he preferred not to use. (I was thinking about use of doubles or illusion)
•   Leave me alone, ahead of its time, collage of images meticulously cut and arranged, about tabloid media… he says ppl don’t know me and believe the media. And the cpr dummy ... strange.
•   Next the footage of Jermaine’s announcement, followed by silence, Danyel Smith says ‘we should all be ashamed’ should look at ourselves, the man in the mirror… and that’s the song ppl think of after his death. Branca said ‘Michael took it and made it his own’. Then discussion about make that change… emphasizing the word CHANGE.
•   Footage of him singing Another Part of Me … This part of the song…
“We're Sendin' Out
A Major Love
And This Is Our
Message To You
The Planets Are Linin' Up
We're Bringin' Brighter Days
They're All In Line
Waitin' For You
So Look The Truth
You're Just Another Part Of Me . .”

Man in the Mirror, Ending of the film with MJ in the light, arms out just as in 'This is it' film.

OMGosh mindseye, you hit on so much of what I was thinking about with this......great stuff!
I had the most odd feeling when we saw the tears right after Jermaine's announcement footage.
"We should all be ashamed of ourselves......"......yeah.........for believing that Michael could die of a drug overdose, with so many
things not adding up and for believing the media!  Then I had the fleeting thought of tears of happiness, not sadness.........
perhaps these people, were told on camera (while filming the documentary) Michael is alive, that he did hoax it all.  Those tears......
happiness.  Branca being the one with dry tears, because he already knew.  I have to admit, even I was choking up and crying at the
thought of June 25th being real......Michael's death.  However, I still have to look back on ALL that we have talked about.  Now with TS talking to us more.....UGH, I think I've lost it for sure....not that I ever had it in the first place, lol. 

I am looking forward to seeing and reading more about this documentary.  However, I am off to a family birthday celebration : )
We are going to see Rise of the Guardians ....... I am sure it will be great fun!

Blessings Always.......mindeye, again awesome post! Thank you!!! 
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Andrea on November 23, 2012, 03:51:53 PM
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Thank you for all of these comments - I watched all but the last few minutes so will definitely watch this again through one of these links.

I was so mesmerized by this documentary that I didn't think anything hoax. At least not until the CPR Dummy came up - then I started thinking about the interview and the journalist that was on TV talking about the CPR Dummy in reference to this song.

Then they showed Jermaine and his announcement and that whipped me back into hoax mode - thanks Mr Lee :) I think the tears once again humanized Michael and showed how well respected he is among his peers.

Overall I think it was an exceptional documentary of the making of BAD but even moreso it was an exceptional behind the scenes look at Michael the man - something that he has been showing us since 6/25/09. The true Michael. And I loved it.

Thank you, Michael, and thank you, Mr Lee. I am hopeful that the documentary reached hearts and minds of those that are misinformed about who you are and I'm hopeful that it changed their perception.

Blessings


Re: the bolded part.  That's what I thought about the tears as well, it shows just how much MJ is missed and how loved he is.  The tears looked  very genuine and I believe they were because probably not all those people know MJ is still alive (maybe suspect thought).  When Branca wiped the non-tear from his eye, I had to smile, he didn't look upset at all.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Jos on November 23, 2012, 04:50:34 PM
Wow Mindseye, thanks for the list!
great observations!


I loved the moment when Kanye West was on saying "Annie are you ok..." and then said "no I don't think she's ok, man".  :LolLolLolLol:
 
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: mindseye on November 23, 2012, 05:17:08 PM
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Wow Mindseye, thanks for the list!
great observations!


I loved the moment when Kanye West was on saying "Annie are you ok..." and then said "no I don't think she's ok, man".  :LolLolLolLol:

 :icon_e_smile: 
I laughed at that part too.

btw just watched the teary part again, were some tears, and okay maybe a little weeny tear in the corner of Branca's eye...maybe from staring into space too long.  :icon_geek:

And the exact words were... 'a lot of ppl misunderstand me that's because they don't know me at all'
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on November 23, 2012, 05:28:50 PM
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If anyone now or in the future has an online source for viewing this documentary, please post a link on this thread.

Yes please, in my country I didn't even heard about it yet!!  :icon_mad:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on November 23, 2012, 05:43:51 PM
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Here's another one....

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/ (http://www.soulculture.co.uk/culture-2/film-tv/watch-bad-25-spike-lees-michael-jackson-documentary-in-full-tv-catch-up/)

Wow RK thanks for sharing, I'll watch it tomorrow it's later than midnight now here!!
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: voiceforthesilent on November 23, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
Wow - just watched this for the second time. Thanks again for the link. It is exceptional - I hope the world at large, especially those who have been critical of Michael, take time to watch and see this special gift.

I noticed that Michael Bearden had on a t-shirt of a teenage Michael and it looked like a bunch of lights and sub woofers in his hair. He was wearing a crown and wording at the top said "Michael Jackson King of Pop". The crown had a bunch of symbols on it and I believe one is a key - it's on the far right side of the crown. There were other symbols too but I couldn't make them out very well.

Did anyone else notice this?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on November 29, 2012, 12:22:21 PM
Yay, the Doco just aired on foxtel tonight didn't even know. my lovely husband recorded it for me. Will watch tomorrow  :icon_bounce:
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: willddoMJ on August 02, 2013, 02:17:09 AM
has anyone brought the bad 25 deluxe collectors edition? wondering what the headphones in it is like and if anyone else owns this edition?
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: momof3kids on August 02, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
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has anyone brought the bad 25 deluxe collectors edition? wondering what the headphones in it is like and if anyone else owns this edition?

I bought it and the headphones are just little earbuds that say BAD on them. 
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: willddoMJ on August 02, 2013, 09:11:31 AM
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has anyone brought the bad 25 deluxe collectors edition? wondering what the headphones in it is like and if anyone else owns this edition?

I bought it and the headphones are just little earbuds that say BAD on them.

how the sound quality, and the "sound isolating" effect that it has? i can easily buy this collection but like some reviews and other opinions of people who currently have this.

it would be a nice addition to my MJ collection which include things like MJ frames, cd's, dvds, MJ OPUS, and original papers from 2009 of june 25th. just to name a few things :-) like MJ OPUS, ebay is selling the MJ Deluxe collection at rip of prices of $300 up to a major rip of, of $1000, like i mean MJ site sells them for $200 lol, like wow.
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: momof3kids on August 03, 2013, 12:27:16 AM
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has anyone brought the bad 25 deluxe collectors edition? wondering what the headphones in it is like and if anyone else owns this edition?

I bought it and the headphones are just little earbuds that say BAD on them.

how the sound quality, and the "sound isolating" effect that it has? i can easily buy this collection but like some reviews and other opinions of people who currently have this.

it would be a nice addition to my MJ collection which include things like MJ frames, cd's, dvds, MJ OPUS, and original papers from 2009 of june 25th. just to name a few things :-) like MJ OPUS, ebay is selling the MJ Deluxe collection at rip of prices of $300 up to a major rip of, of $1000, like i mean MJ site sells them for $200 lol, like wow.

 I would love to give you my opinion on the quality of the ear buds but I haven't ever used them.  They are still sitting in the box (I haven't even worn the t-shirt!)  To be honest, they don't seem like very high quality ones (sorry MJ). The case is pretty neat though!   I bought it to add to my collection also (which sounds a lot like yours!!)   
Title: Re: The Official BAD 25 Thread
Post by: willddoMJ on August 03, 2013, 01:22:28 AM
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has anyone brought the bad 25 deluxe collectors edition? wondering what the headphones in it is like and if anyone else owns this edition?

I bought it and the headphones are just little earbuds that say BAD on them.

how the sound quality, and the "sound isolating" effect that it has? i can easily buy this collection but like some reviews and other opinions of people who currently have this.

it would be a nice addition to my MJ collection which include things like MJ frames, cd's, dvds, MJ OPUS, and original papers from 2009 of june 25th. just to name a few things :-) like MJ OPUS, ebay is selling the MJ Deluxe collection at rip of prices of $300 up to a major rip of, of $1000, like i mean MJ site sells them for $200 lol, like wow.

 I would love to give you my opinion on the quality of the ear buds but I haven't ever used them.  They are still sitting in the box (I haven't even worn the t-shirt!)  To be honest, they don't seem like very high quality ones (sorry MJ). The case is pretty neat though!   I bought it to add to my collection also (which sounds a lot like yours!!)   

lol ya i like to collect things but not very often use to keep as i keep them in like-new condition. like css, i put them on the pc and i transfer them digitally, so cds are like new :-) my MJ OPUS is like new in a secure box it came with.

another collector item is that bad 25th jacket, costs quite fair bit lol
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