Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: mjthelegendlives on December 26, 2009, 08:27:55 PM
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Sorry about the title, I need to catch your attention. :)
So far Michael has been...Hatman, Blond lady, Dr. Murray, Dave Dave, and now not only he is in disguise as blond lady, but he IS this woman...
I have no problem with whom wants to believe this. You are free to believe whatever you want. He could have been disguised as a woman(I personally don't believe it though), and that's ok. Now, I've seen threads about Michael hoaxing his death because he WANTED to BE that blond lady. A trans-gender surgery. Whoever wants to believe this, fine. I wont for a second believe it either, though. What I would have a problem with is if these "theories" or products of our wild imagination do reach youtube channels, videos, sites or blogs.
Can you imagine all the bashing and mocking that this idea would begin? Can you imagine if by any chance his children have access to such information? Can you imagine all the pain this would cause his mother? The haters will hate him even more and will have fun mocking, bashing and putting him and us down for believing in these "theories". Even if this were true (which I highly doubt), I believe this shouldn't be spread like a wild fire all over the net. So please, be cautious about what you post out there. Thank you
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100% Agree!!!!
I think they should delete that crazy post!
It would be ridiculous if a rumor such that will start from a real fan :/
K.
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I agree too!! Please lets stop with these types of things. Whats going on with these topics lately??
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WELL I FEEL ASHAMED OF THAT THREAD IT IS A DISGRACE
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I think it needs to be delete the sooner the better
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mjthelegendlives,I agree! Very well said! We're going too far with this... :?
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I agree. I have no comments for that thread. I can't believe it is still going. This is not acceptable. I too think it should be deleted because it is just the fuel some people need to start even more nasty rumors. Wake up people and just stop adding fuel to potential fires. This is enough already!
I hope Michael and his family never has the chance to see or read that thread.
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With that we portray Michael the same way the media did like "An Asexual Confused Freak", which he is not. That is not fair at all because no one has any right to disect his private life or use their opinion about it to come to complete assumption about someone they don't know entirely.
Have we gone to far with out of the box possiblity theories?...I think with that idea..we've just have :(
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Have we gone to far with out of the box possiblity theories?...I think with that idea..we've just have :(
You are so right. This has gone too far. This is ridiculous that it is still going. I can't believe that people are doing this. I actually find the idea of what is going on in that thread appalling. People must stop the madness at some point. Things like this cast a horrible light on Michael. It is not right and it is not fair to him. People need to learn to have some decency. I mean really.
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it hopefully should be deleted.... as the worrying thing is that this is the internet, and it only takes a few seconds to copy and paste things onto other sites.
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Michael if u read it, please forgive those people!
And come hide in my apartment, I wont let anybody to hurt u!
K.
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i agree i came on today to catch up and i couldnt believe what i was reading about a sex change blah blah blah, if it was true i dont feel like any of us has a right to spread it , i really dont feel like it is true but even if it was why would we talk like this about him. i think this is horrible i know its just a opinion but like most of you said if this gets spread around it is gonna start alot of crap for him. I sure hope the ones posting really think about what they are doing and do right getting rid of it.
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i totally agree.
i'm going to kinda repost what i said on that topic:
i sincerely apologize if i offend anyone, but this topic hurt me...very much. i do not believe Michael went through a sex change. i think if he read this right now, he might feel so betrayed by his own believers.
i don't know if you guys ever came across this graphic (which i shall not post), but i remember years ago, i saw a graphic of michael as a boy & as an older man. the caption said: only in America can a poor black boy turn into a rich white woman. another picture was of Michael's on Pamela Anderson's body. & another was a picture of a woman sitting, with Michael's face on it with no nose.
do you see how degrading all of that is? do you all see how disgusting that is? it is ignorance, it is so hurtful. why would he undergo a sex change to forever be out of the spotlight? it is like him, satisfying those disgusting theories of him wanting to become a female. i think i might want to tear up after typing this, because although i am not Michael, my heart is very disappointed at this "theory." please, do not call me close-minded for my belief. you all are free to have your own ideas, but this...i just do not believe it is appropriate for Michael's being. him changing into a woman, not only satisfies the stupid tabloid's graphics, but could severely affect his children & his family psychologically.
i hope that even though that topic is locked, people will open their eyes. Michael is 100000% man...he had a friggin' baseball bat in his pants. lol, sorry, but i watched some of the "michael's 'assets'" youtube video & it has me wanting a cold shower...
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I also agree. That topic needs to be deleted ASAP.
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I didn't read the original post.. but I don't think that Michael disguising himself as a woman takes away from his manhood.. it's true that Michael can't be hatman and blonde women at the same time.. but people are just looking for clues and there is nothing wrong with this... I for one can use my own brain to determine what I want to believe and I like to keep an open mind because anything is possible.. I don't agree with deleting threads.. it's censorship.. and let people decide for themselves.. if it offends you then you can choose not to read the thread..I for one would like to read everything because something small can lead to the truth.. I mean no disrespect to anyone here.. and my post is not aimed at anyone in particular..
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I didn't read the original post.. but I don't think that Michael disguising himself as a woman takes away from his manhood.. it's true that Michael can't be hatman and blonde women at the same time.. but people are just looking for clues and there is nothing wrong with this... I for one can use my own brain to determine what I want to believe and I like to keep an open mind because anything is possible.. I don't agree with deleting threads.. it's censorship.. and let people decide for themselves.. if it offends you then you can choose not to read the thread..I for one would like to read everything because something small can lead to the truth.. I mean no disrespect to anyone here.. and my post is not aimed at anyone in particular..
no, it wasn't about him disguising as a woman. the person with the locked post said that they believe Michael went under a sex-change... :roll:
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oh .. :o
that's a little farfetched!
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this is crazy, whenever i decide to make a post on something, i discover somebody already did that! :shock: lol, but on topic, i actually got tears reading that post and the replies agreeing to it. i can't imagine how Michael would feel iuf he saw that! i'm not close minded, don't give me that sh*t. but this is something that i just can not believe; not because i as a woman would feel disappointed if Michael turns into a woman, don't even think about saying that. but because Michael himself has always said he's not homosexual or asexual. he had crushes on women. and for God's sake he was married to two "complete" women and has also given birth to 3 wonderful babies! these are Michael's words so i believe nothing but only his words. he said paris, prince and blanket have HIS sperms.
i don't need any assumptions, speculations, theories to prove this wrong, i know this is not the truth cause Michael told me that. i don't care if anyone gets on me for mentioning "the gold pants" here again, but a man who did those moves, appeals can NOT feel like a woman from inside, NOT IN A MILLION YEARS.
i don't claim to know him so much, but i will say it loud that Michael always said he like women so believe him and he can never fancy being a woman.
that post seriously got me in tears cause i felt like his own fans who he loves so much are now acting like the tabloid people, i totally agree with you, this started from a forum today but can end on the tv channels, youtube, newspapers and everywhere else, which i don't want to think about in my wildest dreams. this is not even proved that the blond lady in disguise was Michael, how can people go on assuming it was indeed him after a sex change operation? even if it was at any point true (i feel ashamed i had to write this :cry: ), this is not the way to put it on the internet so thousands of people would read it. Michael would not give us clues to know that he's alive and that he's now a woman.
tell me what is the frigging difference between us, his fans and the filthy tabloid trash now when we are discussing why and how Michael turned into a woman???? did Michael ever give us a clue that he wants to be a woman? NO!!!!! it's the tabloids who have given this bullsh*t to the world. aren't we believing in them if we think this has been the case??
but, someone explain what he was talking about in the tabloid junkie song when he said "She's blonde and she's bisexual"?" seems like he knows everything that's gonna happen in the future!!??!!??!! :roll: :?
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Dont trip everyone! I will find out who that lady was! I just need some time!
But if u have some extra time let the admins know that we want that post DELETED!
MJ doesnt deserve this!
K.
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I'm very glad I didn't read this post... I do not know how I would react to these hateful statements.. some things are getting out of control
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I'm very glad I didn't read this post... I do not know how I would react to these hateful statements.. some things are getting out of control
i agree.. i don't even know what there talking about.. but to be honest it wouldn't have caught my interest / attention anyway!! its personal stuff whether it true or not and thats how it should stay.. PERSONAL..
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Sorry about the title, I need to catch your attention. :)
So far Michael has been...Hatman, Blond lady, Dr. Murray, Dave Dave, and now not only he is in disguise as blond lady, but he IS this woman...
I have no problem with whom wants to believe this. You are free to believe whatever you want. He could have been disguised as a woman(I personally don't believe it though), and that's ok. Now, I've seen threads about Michael hoaxing his death because he WANTED to BE that blond lady. A trans-gender surgery. Whoever wants to believe this, fine. I wont for a second believe it either, though. What I would have a problem with is if these "theories" or products of our wild imagination do reach youtube channels, videos, sites or blogs.
Can you imagine all the bashing and mocking that this idea would begin? Can you imagine if by any chance his children have access to such information? Can you imagine all the pain this would cause his mother? The haters will hate him even more and will have fun mocking, bashing and putting him and us down for believing in these "theories". Even if this were true (which I highly doubt), I believe this shouldn't be spread like a wild fire all over the net. So please, be cautious about what you post out there. Thank you
great post! you are absolutely right! That trans-gender surgery is BS!
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This is a very good poit it is just ridiculous to believe that every woman and men could be michael. If we take a closer look and search for more evidence we always have seen that these conjectures are fals. By now they have been always not true. So we should pay more attention to some other clues than searching michael in everyone! Thank you for the statement
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This is a very good poit it is just ridiculous to believe that every woman and men could be michael. If we take a closer look and search for more evidence we always have seen that these conjectures are fals. By now they have been always not true. So we should pay more attention to some other clues than searching michael in everyone! Thank you for the statement
I agree with the above post. If Michael is masquerading around as all who the members believe him to be then is is getting out and about far more than when he ever did when he was "alive"!
I have never been able to believe that Michael was Hatman, Blonde Lady, Dr Murray or Dave Dave. You can superimpose someones photograph on top of another and find similarities with many people. Some have done on here and that convinces them that Michael is indeed that person??? If I see or find anything substantial to make me believe then I will but until then =NO I CANNOT!
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though i, as the original poster on the sex change topic, will gladly admit that it's as farfetched as any other theory on this forum, i still have trouble reading that so many of you are actually saying that you would turn you back on him if that were the case..... has anybody stopped to think for a moment that there are thousands of people who have had this surgery and MAYBE one of these people posts on this forum???? it's discrimination pure and simple
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though i, as the original poster on the sex change topic, will gladly admit that it's as farfetched as any other theory on this forum, i still have trouble reading that so many of you are actually saying that you would turn you back on him if that were the case..... has anybody stopped to think for a moment that there are thousands of people who have had this surgery and MAYBE one of these people posts on this forum???? it's discrimination pure and simple
actually you have a point.. for one.. we dont know what someone else thinks or feels inside.. I am not saying Michael did this..but if he chose to.. I would be ok with it.. anyone who chooses to do something like that needs to be true to themselves and it's a fact of life.. there are people that are born with gender identity issues.. I am not saying Michael is one of them.. I for one would support him.. the same as I would have supported him if he were gay... we are all human beings no matter what!
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Bad_Girl- ]But many did state on the said post that got deleted that they would have no problem if he did this but IMO the idea is too far fetched and preposterous to even consider. I do think though whatever Michael did the hoax for many on here would have no problem accepting it whatever. Please do not underestimate the love that many of us have on this forum for Michael.
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But many did state on the said post that got deleted that they would have no problem if he did this but IMO the idea is too far fetched and preposterous to even consider. I do think though whatever Michael did the hoax for many on here would have no problem accepting it whatever. Please do not underestimate the love that many of us have on this forum for Michael.
I never read the original post.. so Im not in a position to judge anyone or their comments.. Im not sure if thats what bad_girl was implying.. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't judging anyone
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But many did state on the said post that got deleted that they would have no problem if he did this but IMO the idea is too far fetched and preposterous to even consider. I do think though whatever Michael did the hoax for many on here would have no problem accepting it whatever. Please do not underestimate the love that many of us have on this forum for Michael.
I never read the original post.. so Im not in a position to judge anyone or their comments.. Im not sure if thats what bad_girl was implying.. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't judging anyone
Ooops I see now that you were directing that at bad_girl.. Sorry!
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:o Well thankfully i never saw that thread!! it say's something when his own fans are saying stupid things, id expect this from media and haters but not here :evil: yes please delete that thread...
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I don't believe all of these theories to be true. However, everyone has the right to write their theories, no matter how out there the theory may seem. Hell, the whole idea of MJ being alive is a little out there but we all believe that. Of course, there is evidence to back up the claim but still, to the average person, our theory is a little crazy.
And the whole idea of him being transgender is not really that far-fetched, considering that he has always been androgynous throughout his solo career and he may be in some serious danger which may propel him to take that drastic measure if it means to protect himself and his family. Do I believe it to be true? No. But I will not judge the theory based on what I believe. And I am not really offended because I'm not judgmental when it comes to the LGBT community. I think it's more appalling that people find this theory sick simply because it deals with changing one's gender. I don't really see this being the case with MJ but I can see why someone may think that, especially since none of us really know him that well to begin with. We only know what he wanted us to know so anything is open to interpretation.
If you don't believe in the theory, then ignore it. Simple as that.
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But many did state on the said post that got deleted that they would have no problem if he did this but IMO the idea is too far fetched and preposterous to even consider. I do think though whatever Michael did the hoax for many on here would have no problem accepting it whatever. Please do not underestimate the love that many of us have on this forum for Michael.
I never read the original post.. so Im not in a position to judge anyone or their comments.. Im not sure if thats what bad_girl was implying.. I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't judging anyone
Ooops I see now that you were directing that at bad_girl.. Sorry!
Is ok-don't worry for that! I don't think I explained very well. I just wanted to point out that BadGirl did seem to think that not many fans could accept it if Michael did in fact have a sex change-although the idea of him doing this to my mind is quite ridiculous I think if something is right for Michael and he does not harm anyone else in the process then most of his fans will accept what he needs to do to be happy and indeed respect him for it, I know I would and am sure I can speak for many on here.
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I don't believe all of these theories to be true. However, everyone has the right to write their theories, no matter how out there the theory may seem. Hell, the whole idea of MJ being alive is a little out there but we all believe that. Of course, there is evidence to back up the claim but still, to the average person, our theory is a little crazy.
And the whole idea of him being transgender is not really that far-fetched, considering that he has always been androgynous throughout his solo career and he may be in some serious danger which may propel him to take that drastic measure if it means to protect himself and his family. Do I believe it to be true? No. But I will not judge the theory based on what I believe. And I am not really offended because I'm not judgmental when it comes to the LGBT community. I think it's more appalling that people find this theory sick simply because it deals with changing one's gender. I don't really see this being the case with MJ but I can see why someone may think that, especially since none of us really know him that well to begin with. We only know what he wanted us to know so anything is open to interpretation.
If you don't believe in the theory, then ignore it. Simple as that.
Well, I have no problem at all with people who change gender and am very broad minded but obviously admin found this topic distasteful and untrue as it was deleted. Admin do a marvelous job on here so they will have good reason and is their prerogative.
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Well, I have no problem at all with people who change gender and am very broad minded but obviously admin found this topic distasteful and untrue as it was deleted. Admin do a marvelous job on here so they will have good reason and is their prerogative.
My comments were not really directed at admin or anyone in particular. I was writing more so in general. I can see why admin took action. Unfortunately, it didn't really stop the bashing. Anyway, that's all I have to say about it.
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I think some people haven't understand the purpose of this thread yet. I don't know to whom Bad girl is the directing her message to, but I am sure many of MJ's fans wouldn't turn their back on Michael if he did wanted to change sex. I wouldn't either. The purpose of this thread was to alert people about posting these theories over the net for two reasons:
1. If Michael really faked his death because he wanted a sex change, for any reason, let it be safety or a different lifestyle, this means he doesn't want speculation on this. He faked his death, changed sex and doesn't want the world to know, period.
2. Now, if on the contrary, this is just a theory and not true at all (like I know it is)...well I guess I need not continue explaining. Reread the post and think if "Tabloid Junkie" was written just for fun...or if the Harlem's speech, where he doesn't seem happy about the tabloids calling him homosexual was just for fun as well. I'm not saying Michael is homophobic. I'm saying he (and I bet anyone on this Earth) doesn't feel comfortable with people speculating on their sexual preferences or roles over the internet.
Again my message wasn't directed toward anyone specific, and my apologies to anyone whom my post could have offended. It wasn't my intention. God bless. And its all for L.O.V.E.
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I think some people haven't understand the purpose of this thread yet. I don't know to whom Bad girl is the directing her message to, but I am sure many of MJ's fans wouldn't turn their back on Michael if he did wanted to change sex. I wouldn't either. The purpose of this thread was to alert people about posting these theories over the net for two reasons:
1. If Michael really faked his death because he wanted a sex change, for any reason, let it be safety or a different lifestyle, this means he doesn't want speculation on this. He faked his death, changed sex and doesn't want the world to know, period.
2. Now, if on the contrary, this is just a theory and not true at all (like I know it is)...well I guess I need not continue explaining. Reread the post and think if "Tabloid Junkie" was written just for fun...or if the Harlem's speech, where he doesn't seem happy about the tabloids calling him homosexual was just for fun as well. I'm not saying Michael is homophobic. I'm saying he (and I bet anyone on this Earth) doesn't feel comfortable with people speculating on their sexual preferences or roles over the internet.
Again my message wasn't directed toward anyone specific, and my apologies to anyone whom my post could have offended. It wasn't my intention. God bless. And its all for L.O.V.E.
Okay, I thought that was all I had to say but no. :lol: After reading your post, I can see why that would be majorly frustrating to read. I'm putting myself in his shoes and since he cannot defend himself or say what is true and what is not true, I can see why that would be bothersome but I think the original poster didn't mean any harm when posting her theory though. So yeah, I understand both sides now. Well can we agree to disagree?
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Okay, I thought that was all I had to say but no. :lol: After reading your post, I can see why that would be majorly frustrating to read. I'm putting myself in his shoes and since he cannot defend himself or say what is true and what is not true, I can see why that would be bothersome but I think the original poster didn't mean any harm when posting her theory though. So yeah, I understand both sides now. Well can we agree to disagree?
I guess so. lol
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farhatmjj, I read your post on this thread and correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are confusing gender and sexuality. They are two different things. One could be homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual and opt for gender reassignment.