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Title: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Adi on May 24, 2012, 09:36:17 AM
PROPOFOL  Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
5/24/2012 7:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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Dr. Conrad Murray may have been ahead of his time ... because the drug that killed Michael Jackson will now be used to put people to death in Missouri.

The Missouri Department of Corrections has announced it has opted to ditch the previous 3-drug cocktail method for lethal injections ... and replace it with one giant helping of Propofol.

Missouri would be the first state to use Propofol for the purpose of executing someone EVER.

So far, it's unclear when MO will begin using Propofol to kill people ... but there are 19 condemned men who could go on the chopping block in the very near future.

Propofol -- Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/24/propofol-conrad-murray-missouri-michael-jackson/)


Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: bec on May 24, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
Yeah well what they don't mention is that recently, human rights groups have protested the use of barbiturates because of the potential suffering that it causes when death occurs. They have always used an anesthetic prior to administering the secondary drugs in executions. It's probably a good thing to simply administer a large overdose of anesthetic and leave it at that.

Sad. The death penalty seems so archaic.   
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: LUNA on May 24, 2012, 10:47:47 AM
mhh... is it  a coincidence? or a(nother) mj's message/clue? however,every drug (especially the 1s that have an effect on central nervous sistem,but not only those 1s) could be able 2 kill a person,if used uncorrectly. propofol is an anesthetic drug and,only 4 this reason,is dangerous,because of its narrow therapeutic window.... it's used 4 surgery (no other indications) and i don't understand its use 4 insomnia.... not possible 4 a doctor!i am a pharmacist and i know it! :icon_eek:

*LUNA*


Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Tink on May 24, 2012, 03:11:34 PM
Killing in prison apparently is the last vestige of cruelty, so that just needs to go completely. The other drug was banned when the manufacturer discovered it was being used.

Basically, if the drug is discovered it's being used to kill on Death row, it's banned from being sold to a prison. Apparently disinformation has run it's course - You need to knock someone out first, then administer something else, like a barbiturate, so they die before they wake up. Three drugs, mostly so no one knows WHO administers the killing drug.

Next, they'll be ordering Vet. Supplies, grrr!

Let them serve life without parole; learn the value of life; teach them how precious life is. Oh, wait - we're speaking of USA prisons here, which don't teach anything, but how to be a better criminal! We need to overhaul those, so they actually teach something, rather than being sold off to the lowest bidder, who then makes money off of it.

Privateering doesn't necessarily do the better job. Bet following Disneyland's model would even work better (sans the visitors).
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Grace on May 24, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
I wonder who will be on the "chopping board" with this whimsical smile TMZ added.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on May 24, 2012, 03:44:56 PM
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Michael Jackson Death Penalty Plans? Missouri Wants To Kill People With
 Propofol



Posted: May 24, 2012

After Michael Jackson’s death we heard a lot about the drug Propofol and its ability to kill people when taken incorrectly and specifically in large doses, now lawmakers in Missouri are considering the drug as a replacement for lethal injection drugs that were previously being used by the state.
 
The Missouri Department of Corrections has announced plans to remove the current 3-drug cocktail for lethal injections and instead use a massive dose of Propofol.
 
If approved Missouri will become the first state ever to approve Propofol for the legal execution of an inmate or anyone for that matter.
 
Missouri currently has 19 condemned men sitting on death row, if approved they could all soon be given the Michael Jackson death penalty.
 
Lawmakers are turning to a new approach after the maker of sodium thiopental, one of the drugs used in the 3-drug method stopped selling the chemical for use in executions, causing prisoners to run out of the drug or watch it become expired. Following sodium thiopental’s removal from the market most states turned to Pentobarbital, a barbiturate used to treat anxiety and convulsive disorders. Added to the 3-drug cocktail system Pentobarbital has been responsible for nearly 50 executions in the last two years.
 
Even if Propofol is selected as the new means for executions in Missouri opponents have already pointed out that the drug makers manufacturer is against the sale of the drug for the purpose of lawful execution.
 
While officials have not revealed their motive behind the drugs use spokesman Chris Cline released a simple one-sentence statement on Wednesday:
 

“Working with expert guidance, we are confident that this new one-drug protocol will be effective and appropriate.”

Perhaps they’ll hire Dr. Conrad Murray to administer the lethal injections once he’s out of jail, we hear he’s pretty good at that sort of thing.
 
Do you think Propofol would be a good substitute for the 3-cocktail lethal injection method or given Michael Jackson’s death is it far too creepy?

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/242178/michael-jackson-death-penalty-plans-missouri-wants-to-kill-people-with-propofol/#8jYQ7hoFRGcvml37.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/242178/michael-jackson-death-penalty-plans-missouri-wants-to-kill-people-with-propofol/#8jYQ7hoFRGcvml37.99)

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Perhaps they’ll hire Dr. Conrad Murray to administer the lethal injections once he’s out of jail, we hear he’s pretty good at that sort of thing.
 
I'm speechless, I don't know if I should laugh or cry  :icon_e_confused:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: hachiman on May 24, 2012, 04:11:06 PM
Aw, you made the thread before I did. xd
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Tink on May 24, 2012, 05:35:27 PM
I sure hope it's a joke...
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Andrea on May 24, 2012, 05:47:26 PM
Just a general observation about some TMZ stories, not necessarily this one although it might be included.

I think TMZ sometimes fabricates stories for the sole purpose of creating copy and paste journalism around the world.  To show that the media, in general, doesn't do it's fact checking and are just eager to publish juicy gossip even if it's groundless.  I mean, how many times has TMZ published a story only to basically recant it the next day?

MJ said for years that the media lies but hardly anyone paid attention.  A great way to prove his point is to have the biggest 'tabloid' website demonstrate it to everyone.

Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: lilwendy on May 24, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
I don't know... all I got from this was that MJ was killed with propofol, FOR A PURPOSE.  :icon_lol:

Oh and a shout out to MO..... you guys remember Mo?  :icon_lol:

Of course, I think I'm so biased now that I have my hoax glasses permanently fixed on my face  :icon_rr:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on May 24, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
What does it mean MO in this case??  :icon_rolleyes:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Andrea on May 24, 2012, 06:22:02 PM
MO is the abbreviation for Missouri.

Mo used to be an admin on this site, with Souza. 

Lilwendy, I totally thought of Mo too when I saw MO, lol.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: paula-c on May 24, 2012, 08:16:53 PM
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MO is the abbreviation for Missouri.

Mo used to be an admin on this site, with Souza. 

Lilwendy, I totally thought of Mo too when I saw MO, lol.



I also thought in Mo when I read that :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: bec on May 24, 2012, 10:14:56 PM
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Just a general observation about some TMZ stories, not necessarily this one although it might be included.

I think TMZ sometimes fabricates stories for the sole purpose of creating copy and paste journalism around the world.  To show that the media, in general, doesn't do it's fact checking and are just eager to publish juicy gossip even if it's groundless.  I mean, how many times has TMZ published a story only to basically recant it the next day?

MJ said for years that the media lies but hardly anyone paid attention.  A great way to prove his point is to have the biggest 'tabloid' website demonstrate it to everyone.

Agreed with Andrea.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: RK on May 24, 2012, 11:59:12 PM
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MO is the abbreviation for Missouri.

Mo used to be an admin on this site, with Souza. 

Lilwendy, I totally thought of Mo too when I saw MO, lol.
Yep....me too.  Gotta love that expression in the pic too....trying hard to keep a straight face MJ....
but seriously....the death penalty should be killed off pronto. It's wrong, barbaric, archaic. An eye for an eye just makes everyone blind.  Not to mention that people can and do have change of hearts...let's allow them to have time to facilitate that change instead of cutting it short.   
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 25, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
I don't agree with death penalty. It makes me sick to think about it.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: MJonmind on May 25, 2012, 12:36:42 AM
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I don't know... all I got from this was that MJ was killed with propofol, FOR A PURPOSE.  :icon_lol:

Oh and a shout out to MO..... you guys remember Mo?  :icon_lol:
My thoughts too! :icon_lol:

RK
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An eye for an eye just makes everyone blind.
Great quote!

My suggestion instead of the death penality-- legalize marijuana so there's more room in the prisons, and less cost to tax-payers for long-term care of worse offenders. :)

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Gotta love that expression in the pic too....trying hard to keep a straight face MJ....
Yeah so 'innocent' looking, like he's about to pull a prank. :icon_mrgreen:  Love his look!
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Adi on May 25, 2012, 04:57:08 AM
Agree 100%....the death penalty is barbaric, sick and wrong. It should be stopped.

lilwendy:
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all I got from this was that MJ was killed with propofol, FOR A PURPOSE

Oh and a shout out to MO..... you guys remember Mo?

That's what I got from it too lilwendy.

Yep - I also noticed MO in this story too like some of the old-timers here.

 I like this pic of MJ that TMZ used....he does have a whimsical smile.... like the cat that got the canary  :icon_cool:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on May 25, 2012, 06:18:47 AM
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 Yep....me too.  Gotta love that expression in the pic too....trying hard to keep a straight face MJ....
but seriously....the death penalty should be killed off pronto. It's wrong, barbaric, archaic. An eye for an eye just makes everyone blind.  Not to mention that people can and do have change of hearts...let's allow them to have time to facilitate that change instead of cutting it short.   


Agreed.

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Gotta love that expression in the pic too....trying hard to keep a straight face MJ....
:icon_lol: what prank did you do this time MJ? ;D
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: sweetsunsetwithMJ on May 25, 2012, 06:30:58 AM
Thank you @Andrea... I knew about MO & Souza & double Dutch Forum but I didn't know about Missouri's abbreviation.  :icon_razz:
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: MissG on May 25, 2012, 05:02:04 PM
I remember we discussed death penalty and the drugs used for it. In fact, i wrote a long boring post about it and can´t find it, not even the thread. i´ll keep searching among millions of posts.

This news are a bit annoying to be honest.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: blankie on May 25, 2012, 06:46:20 PM
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mhh... is it  a coincidence? or a(nother) mj's message/clue? however,every drug (especially the 1s that have an effect on central nervous sistem,but not only those 1s) could be able 2 kill a person,if used uncorrectly. propofol is an anesthetic drug and,only 4 this reason,is dangerous,because of its narrow therapeutic window.... it's used 4 surgery (no other indications) and i don't understand its use 4 insomnia.... not possible 4 a doctor!i am a pharmacist and i know it! :icon_eek:

*LUNA*


 :icon_e_confused: mmmmmmhhhh.... :icon_rolleyes:....agree with you
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 25, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
I hate this topic period because I am sure there are some people on death row who don’t belong there.  And besides, who made mortal man both judge and executor?  Himself  :icon_rolleyes:  Therein is where the problem lies.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: MJonmind on May 26, 2012, 05:21:12 AM
It's interesting that Moses killed an Egyptian who was mistreating another Israelite, and King David had a man killed so he could take his wife. In both cases God did not require their deaths, but instead both men were honored and greatly used in God's plan. Also when Cain killed his brother Abel (first murder), God just sent him far away from home.

Yet the Bible teaches the death penalty for:

Adultery - Leviticus 20:10  The Book of Leviticus: Chapter 20, Verse 10 (Leviticus 20:10) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/LEV/20/10)
Cursing parents - Matthew 15:3-4  The Book of Matthew: Chapter 15, Verses 3-4 (Matthew 15:3-4) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/MAT/15/3-4)
Those that do evil - Romans 13:4  The Book of Romans: Chapter 13, Verse 4 (Romans 13:4) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/ROM/13/4)
Murder - Genesis 9:5  The Book of Genesis: Chapter 9, Verse 5 (Genesis 9:5) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/GEN/9/5)
Sword-wielding Jesus  - Revelation 19:11-15  The Book of Revelation: Chapter 19, Verses 11-15 (Revelation 19:11-15) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/REV/19/11-15)

Makes you wonder about the double-standard, or over-arching messages hidden in the Bible.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: MissG on May 26, 2012, 09:14:14 AM
@MJonmind, that was interesting.
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Sarahli on June 27, 2012, 05:57:47 PM
I saw a documentary on TV where they show how investigators solve crimes and when I heard "Propofol" ... well you can imagine my reaction. I don't know if this ever was posted or not but it reminded me of this article from TMZ^^^ "PROPOFOL  Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose"

A nurse male killed a woman (on purpose) with a fatal dose of Propofol:

MyDeathSpace.com (http://www.mydeathspace.com/article/2008/10/15/Michelle_Herndon_)(24)_was_murdered_by_a_trained_anesthesia_nurse

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Oliver Travis O'Quinn, a former Shands nurse, was sentenced to life in prison without parole late Friday afternoon for the murder of 24-year-old Michelle Herndon in 2005.

O'Quinn, who was trained as an anesthesia nurse, was found guilty of first-degree murder in the killing of Herndon in her Gainesville home by injecting her with a fatal dose of propofol, a fast-acting anesthetic.

Other articles: Man's obsession with college student turned deadly - Dateline NBC - Crime reports - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25855779/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/obsession/#.T-uHk7U0O50)
Death from Propofol: Accident, Suicide, or Murder? (http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/108/4/1182.full)
Title: Re: PROPOFOL Now Used to Kill People ... On Purpose
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 27, 2012, 07:27:38 PM
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It's interesting that Moses killed an Egyptian who was mistreating another Israelite, and King David had a man killed so he could take his wife. In both cases God did not require their deaths, but instead both men were honored and greatly used in God's plan. Also when Cain killed his brother Abel (first murder), God just sent him far away from home.

Yet the Bible teaches the death penalty for:

Adultery - Leviticus 20:10  The Book of Leviticus: Chapter 20, Verse 10 (Leviticus 20:10) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/LEV/20/10)
Cursing parents - Matthew 15:3-4  The Book of Matthew: Chapter 15, Verses 3-4 (Matthew 15:3-4) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/MAT/15/3-4)
Those that do evil - Romans 13:4  The Book of Romans: Chapter 13, Verse 4 (Romans 13:4) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/ROM/13/4)
Murder - Genesis 9:5  The Book of Genesis: Chapter 9, Verse 5 (Genesis 9:5) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/GEN/9/5)
Sword-wielding Jesus  - Revelation 19:11-15  The Book of Revelation: Chapter 19, Verses 11-15 (Revelation 19:11-15) | Learn The Bible (http://www.learnthebible.org/bible/3/REV/19/11-15)

Makes you wonder about the double-standard, or over-arching messages hidden in the Bible.

@mjonmind and any others who may be intetrested - I guess that moses / mosaic and david / davidic bloodlines lead to christ as prophecied in the bible. i dont think its a double standard, because moses did this action before the mosaic law was established. in fact at the time of the murder Moses was not yet working for the hebrew god Yaweh, he was still in the house of pharoah being raised as an egytpian and subject to egyptian rule, not israelite law. also, he was a dignitary at this time. who is going to put someone of the house of pharoah to death because of a murder... no one. further in exodus, moses speaks of his remorse for the situation.

re: david, he was not immune from huge consequences of this decision, such as attempts to ucerp him as king and his actions certainly made him a target for murder. his love child with bath sheeba died. Davids daughterr was raped by her brother and then he was murdered. David lost gods blessing after he murdered Uriah and this led to consequentual bad chain of events. God promised that the sword would never depart from his house. All David's sons who were alive at the time of the murder of Uriah were killed, but David's son Solomon was not killed because he was not born yet, David had repented of his sin, and God loved Solomon. many family members were murdered throughout Davids kingship. In addition to that his successor to the throne King Solomon, died as an apostate of God! (as he in time turned his back on God)

david paid consequences for his sin. just a point to keep in mind, though. under the Old Covenant (Old Testament), there was no Savior yet, and God's people were under the Law of Moses (mosaic law) the law of sin and death, or "sin and consequences (discipline of God)".

so many use these examples to point to God being a cruel God, because they don't acknowledge this is the very reason God came to us in the person of Jesus Christ to die the most painful, shameful death, not having any sin deserving of punishment. those who receive Him as Savior are not under His wrath; however, they are still persecuted, even to death, by those who hate God and His people. Because Christ rose from the dead, He also gave us victory over death and eternal life. those who continue to hate God and reject His salvation are indeed under the Old Law of sin and death; thus the "Day of Lord", the "Wrath of God" prophesied to come.

God forgave David because of David's repentance, though David and his family had to pay the price to obtain this forgiveness

THE ONLY reason that David was not put to death is that david was promised to be in the bloodlione of the coming christ. (david bloodline) So its not that the bible has double standards. This divine bloodline and expected christ was a prophecy and a healing and deliverance to makind. So NOTHING could get in the way of that propetic bloodline and that seed (jesus) being born.

Hope this helps..

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