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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tu5hW3jJWw[/youtube]
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This is amazing stuff. Wow. Just wow.
Here is another video that shows Tupacs entrance and the ending.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9wXBWFJ464&feature=related[/youtube]
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Wow! :icon_e_surprised: This is really amazing. I wish his death was also a hoax but I feel like he really passed away. RIP Tupac. :icon_cry:
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Ha, do we know for sure that's a hologram??? :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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Yes made me wonder about this, we saw the pics at i believed it was TMZ with Tupac in a car, after his so called dead.
There are so many strange things going on with TUPAC also.
I don't dare to say with Certainty "Tupac is dead"
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He looks more like a ghost. The vision is transparent. I'm pretty sure that it's a hologram.
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Tupac was 'alive' at Coachella festival. The Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival is an annual three-day music and arts festival, organized by Goldenvoice. Guess who Goldenvoice is, it's none other but a subsidiary of our beloved....AEG Live!!
This is soo hilarious i can't stop smirking...:D
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He looks more like a ghost. The vision is transparent. I'm pretty sure that it's a hologram.
I saw that too Pure, but snoop doesn't look quiet solid too. lol
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I saw Michael's 'hologram' at the Immortal tour in Oakland. Seems like Cirque went on the cheap for their hologram making machine cuz MJ's hologram barely moved, didn't sing and was clearly transparent.
We all know Tupac is alive and I can't say when this was filmed, but this is no hologram.
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I saw Michael's 'hologram' at the Immortal tour in Oakland. Seems like Cirque went on the cheap for their hologram making machine cuz MJ's hologram barely moved, didn't sing and was clearly transparent.
We all know Tupac is alive and I can't say when this was filmed, but this is no hologram.
It looks like the floor is sliding. It's not sliding for real tho. It's because this is just a vision. And I do not know if he is alive or not. I feel like he passed away. But it's just my feeling and it can be wrong which I hope it is.
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I'm wondering if the hologram is based on old footage or if Tupac recently 'recorded' that performance for the hologram...
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here another hologram céline dion & elvis .But elvis of the comeback 68
Elvis Presley & Céline Dion - If I Can Dream (in HD!) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3H4RljiBH8)
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Ok, if these are holograms, why is the MJ hologram in the Cirque show so 19th century.
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Guys, please keep in mind about the connection Tupac has. Who is his mother, aunt and so forth. The information on Tupac is pretty interesting.
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Well Sandal8259, i hope you have that information, because the only thing i have heard is about the Maccavelli thing and the Nikes, that he whore in the vids after he "died". the Nikes just werent out at that time. if i recall correctly it was years later they where in stock.
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Well Sandal8259, i hope you have that information, because the only thing i have heard is about the Maccavelli thing and the Nikes, that he whore in the vids after he "died". the Nikes just werent out at that time. if i recall correctly it was years later they where in stock.
one of the comments on YouTube:
"What everyone is not noticing is that the Timberland's he is wearing in this apparent holograph
are a shoe design that Timberland released only a year ago." ; )
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I am the only one that noticed the fact that in the full performance, when the hologram disappeared, they were playing the opening sequence to off the wall. Or how about the fact that when the hologram was completely gone we hear tupac say Coachella one last time and it sounded completely live. Reminds you of someone else sounding live at a tribute huh?
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10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST
When late great rapper Tupac's hologram appeared on this year's Coachella Music Festival's stage, the world was absolutely speechless.
VIDEO: TUPAC BACK! Tupac's Hologram Performs At 2012 Coachella Music Festival
It seemed so surreal to see Tupac Shakur performing alongside Snoop Dogg 15 years after being shot multiple times on the infamous night of September 7, 1996.
The slightly eerie yet amazing hologram mimicked all the real life movements Tupac would do if he were still alive.
Tupac isn't the first musician to come back as a hologram, Michael Jackson came back as a less realistic looking hologram during a tribute concert.
VIDEO: Frank Ocean Sets It Off At Coachella 2012
GlobalGrind started thinking about all of our favorite deceased celebrities who we would love to resurrect and see live in concert.
From R&B singer Aaliyah to legendary rocker Kurt Cobain, GlobalGrind rounded up the 10 best celebs that should come back as holograms.
Read more: 10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST) | Global Grind (http://globalgrind.com/music/tupac-hologram-coachella-musicians-who-should-resurrect-photos#ixzz1sExbpkuU)
Read more: 10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST) | Global Grind (http://globalgrind.com/music/tupac-hologram-coachella-musicians-who-should-resurrect-photos#ixzz1sExPsTXY)
Michael Jackson came back as a less realistic looking hologram during a tribute concert.
Why is it that of all the deceased celebrities the hologram of Michael Jackson is the less realistic looking one?
;D
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"MTV Interviews 2Pac Hologram Creator"
Rap Radar :: MTV Interviews 2Pac Hologram Creator (http://rapradar.com/2012/04/16/mtv-interviews-2pac-hologram-creator/)
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Well Sandal8259, i hope you have that information, because the only thing i have heard is about the Maccavelli thing and the Nikes, that he whore in the vids after he "died". the Nikes just werent out at that time. if i recall correctly it was years later they where in stock.
The AR (as usual with the mysterious cases of some "Kings" in the City of Los Angeles...) has some obvious inconsistenes in weight, height etc. The last pic in the car with Suge is a photoshop. Tupac predicted in some of his songs that he planned to die. Plus there's a FBI file that he and Easy E received death threats.
exit 2pac enter Makaveli
There's a good chance that Makaveli Tha Don is currently releasing underground music through a front image / artist called "Kasinova Tha Don" - so he can stay in the background. The songs sound 99% like Pac (lyrics, style etc.). He also have a song with Hussein Fatal from his former group Tha Outlawz. Normally Hussein wouldn't collaborate with an impersonator and would diss the sh*t out of him...
P.S. sorry for off-topic
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Quote from
Hip Hop Resurrection: Dr. Dre to Perform California Love with Hologram of Tupac at Coachella - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/14/hip-hop-resurrection-dr-dre-to-perform-california-love-with-hologram-of-tupac-at-coachella/)
Apparently this feat will be accomplished by a production company that created a hologram of Mariah Carey for a Christmas concert last year in five different places simultaneously in Europe that was sponsored by Deutsche Telekom. According to KROQ,“Thousands were convinced Mariah was there in person but in actuality she was a hologram.” The video below shows a graphically convincing image, but let’s hope Dre’s production values are less cheesy than the Mariah execution shown here.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2dBHZ47uU&feature=player_embedded [/youtube]
Optical illusion again :LolLolLolLol: What's true & what's illusion?
Apparently this Mariah Carey concert was an interesting pilot project. This innovative hologram business seems to be THE future.
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Alls I can say on ths is nothing surprises me anymore. But I love it! Tupac: The People’s Poet. He was the truth!
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Whether it is really a hologram, that gives so much to think about, ..all the things that you can do with these things
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10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST
When late great rapper Tupac's hologram appeared on this year's Coachella Music Festival's stage, the world was absolutely speechless.
VIDEO: TUPAC BACK! Tupac's Hologram Performs At 2012 Coachella Music Festival
It seemed so surreal to see Tupac Shakur performing alongside Snoop Dogg 15 years after being shot multiple times on the infamous night of September 7, 1996.
The slightly eerie yet amazing hologram mimicked all the real life movements Tupac would do if he were still alive.
Tupac isn't the first musician to come back as a hologram, Michael Jackson came back as a less realistic looking hologram during a tribute concert.
VIDEO: Frank Ocean Sets It Off At Coachella 2012
GlobalGrind started thinking about all of our favorite deceased celebrities who we would love to resurrect and see live in concert.
From R&B singer Aaliyah to legendary rocker Kurt Cobain, GlobalGrind rounded up the 10 best celebs that should come back as holograms.
Read more: 10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST) | Global Grind (http://globalgrind.com/music/tupac-hologram-coachella-musicians-who-should-resurrect-photos#ixzz1sExbpkuU)
Read more: 10 Musicians Who Should Resurrect As Holograms (LIST) | Global Grind (http://globalgrind.com/music/tupac-hologram-coachella-musicians-who-should-resurrect-photos#ixzz1sExPsTXY)
Michael Jackson came back as a less realistic looking hologram during a tribute concert.
Why is it that of all the deceased celebrities the hologram of Michael Jackson is the less realistic looking one?
;D
Agreed! Cirque is top notch in every way. Why the cheezy hologram. And I'm sorry. When was that Tupac concert? Cuz that does NOT look like a hologram. Sorry. Was it just a projection from another concert? And does the hologram sing too?
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and another thing....
Here's an article from Business Week...Love the title
How Tupac Became a Hologram (Plus: Is Elvis Next?)
How Tupac Became a Hologram (Plus: Is Elvis Next?) - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-16/how-tupac-became-a-hologram-plus-is-elvis-next)At one point, Tupac even shouts “What the f— is up, Coachella!” even though the music festival didn’t start until three years after his death.
Even if I grant that Tupac was a hologram.....where did the voice come from? And I can't help but notice his stance with outstretched arms. :bearhug:
Then there's this article in Forbes (isn't that where the Raffles story broke?)
Although you can watch almost all of the Coachella performances streaming live on YouTube, Saturday’s headline performance by Radiohead and Sunday’s by Dre and Snoop unfortunately will not be streamed. Apparently you can only see the hip hop ghosts if you show up live.
Hip Hop Resurrection: Dr. Dre to Perform California Love with Hologram of Tupac at Coachella - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/14/hip-hop-resurrection-dr-dre-to-perform-california-love-with-hologram-of-tupac-at-coachella/)
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Whenever I see a TMZ article on Tupac, I always think of this article, posted almost 2 months before June 25, 2009.
Tupac Is Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/)
4/29/2009 3:20 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
Tupac Is Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TMZ has obtained photographic evidence that Tupac Shakur is alive and well and drinking Hand Grenades in New Orleans -- unless we're terribly mistaken.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/04/29/0428_tupac_lives_ex_launch-1.jpg)
13 years after he was shot and "killed" in Las Vegas ... a man appearing to be 2pac was spotted in a bar on Bourbon Street last weekend.
We were unable to get any sort of DNA evidence -- but this photo is good enough for us.
Thug life, bitches.
Photo gallery: Tupac Lives | Celebrity Photos | TMZ.com (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/tupac_lives#tab=most_recent)
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Sony & Sega have been working on this for an awfully long time, hate to burst all your bubbles. I'll let you in on the secret, rather than laugh. They started with the Vocaloids Live in Japan, where they use Anime Holograms live in concert with live bands & orchestras. It's really quite the rage! It's the SAME Holographic type screen, if you pay attention - and it's quite a shock, when the second character jumps out of the first: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwozsLeKqwM&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]
This one, condensed from a show, shows how rich the 3D characters are - A Vocaloid character turns into an Archangel @3:49, which totally wows the audience - THIS is what entertainment is morphing into:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6_tpthgbz_I&feature=endscreen[/youtube]
If you watch "Tupac" watch his feet closely; therein is the lie, plus how they brought him up! Just like the other Vocaloids, exactly like how they bring them up in some of the concerts! They have "costume changes," etc. "Tupac" character was created composite, overlaying a "skin" on top of a 3D model body. That's why it slips, and goes through almost the same motions, on a sort of loop with limited motion. It's actually quite archaic, on the standards we have now - they only had footage to "skin" the model from.
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My understanding of a hologram is that it is projected onto a back drop, which appears to be the case in the Japanese videos just posted, and is what is explained in this article.
It's impressive but not nearly as convincing as the Tupac one. Not convinced.
Also, it appears that this was a 'surprise.' However, costs for the 'hologram' were estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands. Poor marketing, I would suggest. And now they're talking a 'tour' with the hologram? And what about the 'estate of...'? Do they get some kind of say and/ or share in this venture? Can I make a hologram of Elvis and go on tour?
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Makaveli’s Death - The Facts! 1. 2Pac died on Friday 13th (September 1996). This was exactly 7 months, to the day, after the release of All Eyez On Me (released February 13th 1996).
2. 2Pac's time of death is recorded as 4:03 p.m.(4+3=7).
3. 2Pac was shot on the 7th of September.
4. 2Pac survived 7 days. (7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th and 'died on the 13th....)
5. R U STILL DOWN (Remember Me ?) was released on November 25th (2+5=7)
6. In the Toss It Up video, he also smashes the mirror, perhaps a reference to 7 years bad luck
7. In Tupac's last movie ''Gang Related'' his badge number is 115(1+1+5=7).
8. On Jon B's CD "cool relax" the song "Are You Still Down" featuring 2pac is track 7. Tupac is on track 7 on daz's new album
9. Tupac is on track 7 on daz's new album
10. In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.
11. On the song, "White Man's World" if you listen very closely at the beginning, there is a voice in the background saying, " 7 years, 7 years, 7 years...
12. He died when he was 25 years old (2+5=7)
13. 2pacs funeral was cancelled the day before then created the next day noone saw the body
In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?
The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.
"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13
In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.
In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead.
And here's the number 7 Again :suspect:
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One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.2Pac got the alias "Makavel" from a 16th century Italian philosipher named Nicolas Machiavelli. Machiavelli wrote 3 books: The Art of War, Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, and "The Prince". 2Pac had supposedly read Machiavelli's books several times. In Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, Machiavelli writes that "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". In "Makaveli the Don Killuminati The 7 Day Theory" it says Exit:2pac, Enter: Makaveli. Is the only way for 2Pac to live the life he wants to deceive his enemies by faking his own death and living on as the unseen
Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."
Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzsal0gXaXw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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My understanding of a hologram is that it is projected onto a back drop, which appears to be the case in the Japanese videos just posted, and is what is explained in this article.
It's impressive but not nearly as convincing as the Tupac one. Not convinced.
Also, it appears that this was a 'surprise.' However, costs for the 'hologram' were estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands. Poor marketing, I would suggest. And now they're talking a 'tour' with the hologram? And what about the 'estate of...'? Do they get some kind of say and/ or share in this venture? Can I make a hologram of Elvis and go on tour?
Nope! Didn't watch the Vocaloids! They're projected in 3D, onto like a CLEAR sheets in the center of the stage, same way as "Tupac," so is all fake. The Vocaloids have been in the semi-round, I believe.
As for a hologram of Elvis? You'd have to consult his Estate for an agreement, you can't just do things like that without permission, nor without paying them!
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It's very awesome to see Tupac perform in this way.....if he was alive then that would be even more awesome. It certainly looks really alive like.
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Okay, forgot this type of projection - you'll see a row of lights at the bottom of the stage, because it's the way they did the Madonna & Gorillaz Grammy show: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxSZfOZwaU[/youtube]
I love how they bring the character on the left up like a puppet, out of thin air, so cool! And there you have it: advanced 3D. Did you all know, that was NOT the real Madonna that interacted with the Gorillaz!? SHE WAS NOT REAL - SHE WAS VIRTUAL, LIKE TUPAC!! :thjajaja121:
Here's the article - enjoy: Musion Eyeliner System was the holographic projection technology behind the 3D animation of the popular animated band Gorillaz, who performed 'live' at the Grammy Awards 2006. What's even more surprising is that the Eyeliner System also re-created a virtual Madonna, who performed her hit single Hung up on the same 3D stage.
"Both the live and TV audiences who watched the performance had no clue that what they were watching at least in the first few minutes of Madonna's performance was just virtual reality.
The Grammys performance was a variation on the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon, with the added attraction of a virtual superstar. Yes, that's right. The Madonna you saw on stage with Gorillaz at the Grammys was a virtual as her cartoon counterparts. However, the rappers from De La Soul who came onstage were, in fact, the real deal.
The Eyeliner System produces images of high resolution and quality that make them unmistakably real, which is what happened when Madonna performed the opening number at the Grammy Awards."
The shape of things to come, people - the shape of things to come - and no one even noticed!!
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE Pac....and I am just as certain that he is alive as MJ is or Elvis for that matter....this might be a hologram, but I think he did 'perform', I mean the voice and movements he did...I believe....
.....I hope you come back Pac...miss you
:bearhug:
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Okay, forgot this type of projection - you'll see a row of lights at the bottom of the stage, because it's the way they did the Madonna & Gorillaz Grammy show: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxSZfOZwaU[/youtube]
I love how they bring the character on the left up like a puppet, out of thin air, so cool! And there you have it: advanced 3D. Did you all know, that was NOT the real Madonna that interacted with the Gorillaz!? SHE WAS NOT REAL - SHE WAS VIRTUAL, LIKE TUPAC!! :thjajaja121:
Here's the article - enjoy: Musion Eyeliner System was the holographic projection technology behind the 3D animation of the popular animated band Gorillaz, who performed 'live' at the Grammy Awards 2006. What's even more surprising is that the Eyeliner System also re-created a virtual Madonna, who performed her hit single Hung up on the same 3D stage.
"Both the live and TV audiences who watched the performance had no clue that what they were watching at least in the first few minutes of Madonna's performance was just virtual reality.
The Grammys performance was a variation on the MTV Europe Music Awards in Lisbon, with the added attraction of a virtual superstar. Yes, that's right. The Madonna you saw on stage with Gorillaz at the Grammys was a virtual as her cartoon counterparts. However, the rappers from De La Soul who came onstage were, in fact, the real deal.
The Eyeliner System produces images of high resolution and quality that make them unmistakably real, which is what happened when Madonna performed the opening number at the Grammy Awards."
The shape of things to come, people - the shape of things to come - and no one even noticed!!
Now I'm really irritated. Do you mean Cirque could have gotten a dancing talking real life looking Michael hologram instead of that 1 minute wavey projection? VERY disappointing. :Pulling_hair:
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@gwynned - It would've cost them their entire budget for the show!!
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Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????
I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................
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Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????
I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................
I think that's of more relevance - the glove.
As for cirque, their hologram reminds me of the movie, The Illusionist.
Cirque really couldn't do the Eyeliner hologram because, well, the cost is prohibitive other than short stints; you also CANNOT directly interact with them! You can be in front of it, but too much jumping around mal-aligns the lasers. See the lights under the figures? That's why they had to create the "Madonna" 3D figure to interact with Gorillaz! You can't interfere with the projection, or the illusion is blown.
As of the "Tupac," other than showing off how good they were at "skinning" the tats onto the 3D figure "congrats to my fellow artists for that!" The rest was of poor quality; it was repetitive, and his feet kept sliding an awful lot, lol.
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At first glance I thought Snoop had on a sparkley glove, but at around 2.40 in the video, you can see it's his signature mike.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR5TCjnZSSwYfvSB7OUsD0OptRfIJK0I4Tvepa8n0Jx3UKGHz9Un5DK0Qx3)
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Certainly Cirque COULD have, but chose NOT to. The hologram in CIRQUE looked like the ghost of a hologram to me. And what does THAT say????
I am no aficianado of hip-hop (but like alot of it)---but Let me ask another question: Any significance in Snoop wearing a sequenced glove? Just asking...................
I think that's of more relevance - the glove.
As for cirque, their hologram reminds me of the movie, The Illusionist.
Cirque really couldn't do the Eyeliner hologram because, well, the cost is prohibitive other than short stints; you also CANNOT directly interact with them! You can be in front of it, but too much jumping around mal-aligns the lasers. See the lights under the figures? That's why they had to create the "Madonna" 3D figure to interact with Gorillaz! You can't interfere with the projection, or the illusion is blown.
As of the "Tupac," other than showing off how good they were at "skinning" the tats onto the 3D figure "congrats to my fellow artists for that!" The rest was of poor quality; it was repetitive, and his feet kept sliding an awful lot, lol.
The glove! OMG, who was even looking at Snoop when everyone's eyes were on Tupac!
There have been conflicting reports (surprise!!!) in the media as to whether this was a projection or a hologram, 2D or 3D and even what company was responsible for the hologram.
Here's what CBS News had to say about it.
Tupac Coachella hologram: Behind the technology - Tech Talk - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57415126-501465/tupac-coachella-hologram-behind-the-technology/)
AV Concepts was charged with projecting the image of Tupac on the stage. Nick Smith, the company's president, told MTV it took several months of planning and four months of studio time to create the hologram. Smith declined to comment on the price of the project, but said a comparable project would cost from $100,000 to $400,000.
Shakur's image was fully digital, El Ulbrich, chief creative officer of Digital Domain told the Wall Street Journal.
"This is not found footage. This is not archival footage. This is an illusion," Ulbrich told the Journal. "This is just the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this."
Although the perception was of a 3D likeness of Shakur, the image was actually a 2D image. Shakur's likeness was projected onto an angled piece of glass on ground, which in turn projected the image onto a Mylar screen on stage.
"Utilizing the Musion Eyeliner system, the 302 x 132 screen was customized by AV Concepts to descend onto the stage in mere seconds between sets of the performance to bring the infamous, deceased singer back to life," AV Concepts said on their website. "The most critical technical element was AV Concepts' proprietary Liquid Scenic server that delivered uncompressed media for 3 stacked 1920 x 1080 images, delivering 54,000 lumens of incredibly clear projected imagery."
The Musion Eyeliner system they're talking about is a product of Dimensional Studios and "is an open system that uses a specially developed foil in reflecting images from high-definition video projectors, making it possible to show holograms of variable sizes and distinct clarity created using a proprietary software. The entire system consists of a truss box and a stage, where the virtual picture appears."
I checked out AV concepts and they don't seem to have any experience in holograms or 2 D projections, although they did work with Chris Brown. :suspect:
AV Concepts 54th Annual Grammy Awards | AV Concepts (http://www.avconcepts.com/54th-annual-grammys/)
Then I looked at Musion Eyeliner.
Holograms | Musion Eyeliner | 3D Holographic Projection - Hologram Projector (http://www.eyeliner3d.com/)
Here's what they say about their featured video:
Major award-winning pop-rock band, Tokio Hotel, wowed thousands of fans when they collaborated with Musion to create the world’s first ever virtual tour. The band was transformed into 3D holograms, allowing them to transmit spectacular live performances across seven countries in Europe. The eye-popping performances were a resounding success, scoring hundreds of thousands of hits on YouTube as something never seen before.
I bolded what I think is the key. They projected images of a REAL CONCERT with REAL PEOPLE, not digitized likenesses.
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the hologram of 25 y.o. Tupac, that looks rather like 40 y.o.,
wearing boots released a year ago, shouting 'WTF Coachella?!'
which first time took place in 1999, meantime Tupac had died in 1996 --
actually, there is nothing odd here. At all.
is it me or he/it is not as much tattooed as Tupac was? probably designers
tried to save on tattoos to make very realistic crotch movements, lol.
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We've been traveling on this wavy road
Long time til I be take off this load
But we ride, ride it like a bullet
Hail Mary, Hail Mary
We won't worry everything will come real
Free like the bird in the tree
We won't worry everything will come real
Yes we free like the bird in the tree
We running from the penitentiary
This is the time for we liberty
Hail Mary, Hail Mary
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I haven't posted yet on this thread, but I am still under the SHOCK effect (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/surpris-choc-pale-.gif) and I've read all your comments.... for now all I can say is that I am grateful to God for allowing me to exist and live in these AWESOME tIMES !!
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/surpris-yeux-crie.gif) 2PAC is MIND BLOWING in that hologram / 3D (!?) IT'S REALLY AMAZIIIIING WHAT HAPPENSSSSSSSSSSSS ... I've never really investigated his "death", but from what I've read so far, I can't exclude the possibility that he's alive too!
It's been a long time since I've listened to HipHop, though I LOVE it!
I've found the full show ............ (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Musique/0008.gif)
Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg Coachella 2012 ( FULL ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related[/youtube]
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@Wishy : What's up with Frank Sinatra at the beginning of this video?? :icon_eek:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87FFmvxXuc&feature=related[/youtube]
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I don't know if these guys are acting... but I was LMAO while watching them :thjajaja121:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbmFsLT3qw&feature=related[/youtube]
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/ghostgpcp.jpg) YO! ;D ;D ;D
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pacghosts.jpg)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhXyp4u5QEk&feature=related[/youtube]
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
@Grace: cameraman on the background?
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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/%20http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/7088310833_477fce9746.jpg)
@Grace: cameraman on the background?
hummm ..... :fresse:
Just watch this!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk7vjA3f9Q&feature=share[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gItj4UjjaIY[/youtube]
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I don't know if these guys are acting... but I was LMAO while watching them :thjajaja121:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbmFsLT3qw&feature=related[/youtube]
"Tupac is fu..ing alive man!" :icon_lol:
That guy is hilarious. :icon_lol:
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Tupac's hologram was developed by Oscar-winning effects people, cost a ton of money, has a Twitter account | The Music Mix | EW.com (http://music-mix.ew.com/2012/04/17/tupac-hologram-twitter-cost/)
Perhaps the best thing to emerge from all this? The fact that somebody is tweeting on behalf of Tupac’s ghostly visage. Not only that, but he’s picking up right where the late Shakur left off back in 1996. The highlight so far: “So Puffy is Diddy now? Why this n—- always give himself names that sound like venereal disease symptoms?” Picture him trollin’!
In an interview, Digital Domain’s chief creative officer Ed Ulbrich drove home the fact that the hologram was a fresh creation and not simply a projection of found footage. “To create a completely synthetic human being is the most complicated thing that can be done,” Ulbrich said. “This is not archival footage. This is an illusion. This is the beginning. Dre has a massive vision for this.”
Make of this what you will.
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:omg: tks for sharing that gwynned !!
I'm getting more and more excited :woohoo2: :woohoo2:
We just gotta LOVE our Paris :)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5300741339.jpg)
I'm posting this one more time! this video had got to be seen!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk7vjA3f9Q&feature=share[/youtube]
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:omg: tks for sharing that gwynned !!
I'm getting more and more excited :woohoo2: :woohoo2:
We just gotta LOVE our Paris :)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5300741339.jpg)
Yes,YES, YES. Everyone should see this video. Thanks for posting it, Sim! And Paris tweeting too?
I'm putting the champagne on ice, just in case.
I'm posting this one more time! this video had got to be seen!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk7vjA3f9Q&feature=share[/youtube]
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@gwynned : :icon_e_wink: :beerchug:
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Did you guys check out the coroner's report? Here it is if you want to read it. Is there something strange with it? There's also an autopsy picture but I don't want to post it.
http://www.2pac2k.de/imgs/corbig.gif (http://www.2pac2k.de/imgs/corbig.gif)
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:th_bravo: :abouttime:
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I agree with definitely one thing: "WE ARE THE CREATES, the Storytellers."
I add, "Take one down, and another RISES to take his place. For that's the way it has always been, with the way of the Prophets. The future has always been predicted - but humankind can always change the course of history, by taking care of one other, regardless color, and this world we live in. That must be done with actions, not words. COEXIST!"
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Sim,
That is odd that Frank Sinatra was singing at the beginning of the video of Tupac. I did see something on either a hoax video or picture a few weeks ago of Frank Sinatra's Grave stone. The words "The best is yet to come" were on it. Maybe that's what they are trying to say. The Best is Yet To Come and you ain't seen nothing yet. And Lisa Presley had the song "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" ! Well I guess you guys aren't kidding. This just keeps getting better every day.
Wow, I don't know yet for sure but, wouldn't it be beyond amazing if Tupac were alive !!!!!!! What if Michael,Elvis,Whitney, and Tupac all came back together ???!!!!!!
What a way to shock the world and wake the world up !!!!! Holy Guacamole !!! Tupac Shakur's initials are TS.
I don't want to get too excited yet. Let it simmer and keep watching until we know more.
Love You All
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and another thing....
Here's an article from Business Week...Love the title
How Tupac Became a Hologram (Plus: Is Elvis Next?)
How Tupac Became a Hologram (Plus: Is Elvis Next?) - Businessweek (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-16/how-tupac-became-a-hologram-plus-is-elvis-next)At one point, Tupac even shouts “What the f— is up, Coachella!” even though the music festival didn’t start until three years after his death.
Even if I grant that Tupac was a hologram.....where did the voice come from? And I can't help but notice his stance with outstretched arms. :bearhug:
Then there's this article in Forbes (isn't that where the Raffles story broke?)
Although you can watch almost all of the Coachella performances streaming live on YouTube, Saturday’s headline performance by Radiohead and Sunday’s by Dre and Snoop unfortunately will not be streamed. Apparently you can only see the hip hop ghosts if you show up live.
Hip Hop Resurrection: Dr. Dre to Perform California Love with Hologram of Tupac at Coachella - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/04/14/hip-hop-resurrection-dr-dre-to-perform-california-love-with-hologram-of-tupac-at-coachella/)
yes, comment from someone on Youtube:
Tupac said "Whats up Coachella!" Coachella was only created in 1999. Tupac "died" in 1996... hmmmm?
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Just saw this tweet on twitter: Cathy @purplesilver22 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
“@therealrc: Hearing rumors that mj hologram may be on the Jacksons tour which answers a lot. #ryanreport” I got my table! #hotlanta #ready
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Sim,
That is odd that Frank Sinatra was singing at the beginning of the video of Tupac. I did see something on either a hoax video or picture a few weeks ago of Frank Sinatra's Grave stone. The words "The best is yet to come" were on it. Maybe that's what they are trying to say. The Best is Yet To Come and you ain't seen nothing yet. And Lisa Presley had the song "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" ! Well I guess you guys aren't kidding. This just keeps getting better every day.
Wow, I don't know yet for sure but, wouldn't it be beyond amazing if Tupac were alive !!!!!!! What if Michael,Elvis,Whitney, and Tupac all came back together ???!!!!!!
What a way to shock the world and wake the world up !!!!! Holy Guacamole !!! Tupac Shakur's initials are TS.
I don't want to get too excited yet. Let it simmer and keep watching until we know more.
Love You All
When I co-owned a small sound studio for audio tapes sometime in the '90s, I did phonetically reconstruct the word "Baseball" Into "Football" (O.J. Simpson's audiotape, no less), by sampling other words, and you would have to really listen hard. I was the only one who could scrub and select it, because of my ear for sound. Not trying to brag, but just pointing out it was possible back then, by phonics alone!
Now, come forward to now - I'm obviously NOT the only person aware of using phonetics to reconstruct words! Say, a good sampling of Tupac's voice, all of his vowel inflections, the way he constructed sentences naturally; now, input that into the voice synthesizer, such as Sony's Vocaloid; plus, tweak it with either Melodyne &/or Autotune today, a topnotch recording pros with perfect pitch with someone more advanced than me, did it. Those are just some products I'm aware of, and I'm sure with a simple search, you can find plug-ins for Melodyne that go further.
Autotune is what made the album Michael sound different than usual.
I'm sorry or happy to say, we've gotten that far.
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It's been a long time since I've listened to HipHop, though I LOVE it!
I've found the full show ............ (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Musique/0008.gif)
Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg Coachella 2012 ( FULL ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related[/youtube]
OK , this is some weird stuff that I noticed:
00:46 min - 2PAC shows up
00:51 min - 2PAC hologram disappears and the presenter screams to the public "let's make some F_ _ _ noise for 2PAC
00:52 min - we see a FAMILIAR green image (cardiac monitor) that made our hearts stop back in 2009 :icon_eek:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac002.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac00yny.jpg)(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac006.jpg)
00:51 - this chick shows up (part of EMINEM's intro) all dressed in a white sort of a dress floating like it was MILK, really made me think of Propofol :icon_lol: and she was singing... PAY attention to the lyrics!!
"[...]you've been gone for so long... I'm running out of time...
I need a doctor! Call me a doctor! I need a doctor... a doctor ... a doctor... to bring me BACK to Life!
Take a look at this article ... we find the same words as in the lyrics I quoted above ^^ only a "coincidence"?? Sure! :icon_geek:
MJ's 'heartbeat almost revived after collapse' (http://www.realbollywood.com/2010/03/mjs-heartbeat-revived-collapse.html)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac005.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac004.jpg)
Sim,
That is odd that Frank Sinatra was singing at the beginning of the video of Tupac. I did see something on either a hoax video or picture a few weeks ago of Frank Sinatra's Grave stone. The words "The best is yet to come" were on it. Maybe that's what they are trying to say. The Best is Yet To Come and you ain't seen nothing yet. And Lisa Presley had the song "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" ! Well I guess you guys aren't kidding. This just keeps getting better every day.
Wow, I don't know yet for sure but, wouldn't it be beyond amazing if Tupac were alive !!!!!!! What if Michael,Elvis,Whitney, and Tupac all came back together ???!!!!!!
What a way to shock the world and wake the world up !!!!! Holy Guacamole !!! Tupac Shakur's initials are TS.
I don't want to get too excited yet. Let it simmer and keep watching until we know more.
Love You All
YESSS ... the pieces come together better and better!
You're right about Frank Sinatra!! :omg: I posted that montage on this thread: Harvey Levin - Live in Concert - Page 1 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/?topic=22338.0)
I like how you put it all together! just great!!
If they come back all together, it will be the BAM of our lives! and yesssss that would WAKE everybody up!!
Love you!
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I'm starting to think no one is dead! Liz Taylor included! As for 2Pac - hologram is a bit too real for me!
I saw a vid a couple years ago on yt where he's coming out of a recording studio with Janet's ex. Sorry, forgot his name - the short guy. Anyway, if my computer wasn't about to poop out again (I'm on my 3rd since June 09), I'd look for it and post it. I think when the big BAM comes I'm going to hit MJ up for a Macbook Pro... anyone else? lol
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Plugged in my broken down comp and found the vid. If you've seen it already, do forgive. I don't have time to read everything posted here. Mommyhood is demanding. :)
BTW - the guy recording this seems like actor to me. Maybe 2Pac wants it known he's alive and well. Who knows?
[youtube]http://youtu.be/LIP9kSYGbcM[/youtube]
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Oops! What happened to the embedding icon?
2PAC IS ALIVE!!! THE REAL DEAL? OR NO? TUPAC 2PAC NOT DEAD - YouTube (http://youtu.be/LIP9kSYGbcM)
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Here's a question. If this is indeed a 'hologram,' who owns it? I've read where Dr. Dre has BIG PLANS for the hologram. Does HE own it/him/whatever? Shouldn't we be hearing something from his family? Imagine if Michael's hologram showed up at a Beyonce concert unannounced. Do you think the Jacksons might have something to say about that?
I've not read any comment from Tupac's family. Odd, don't you think?
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:th_bravo:
R2-D2's Other Message - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZp2D0DuIj0&feature=player_embedded)
In a galaxy even farther away, Tupac is still alive.
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Well Sandal8259, i hope you have that information, because the only thing i have heard is about the Maccavelli thing and the Nikes, that he whore in the vids after he "died". the Nikes just werent out at that time. if i recall correctly it was years later they where in stock.
one of the comments on YouTube:
"What everyone is not noticing is that the Timberland's he is wearing in this apparent holograph
are a shoe design that Timberland released only a year ago." ; )
Oh snap,i have to look into this.I do believe Pac is alive,i think him in M.J are connected.This is what my heart tells me.I need to have a closer look at those boots.
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TMZ posted the Tupac video on 4/16/2012 =7 at 6:17 am += 7 7. Just sayin. ;D
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TMZ posted the Tupac video on 4/16/2012 =7 at 6:17 am += 7 7. Just sayin. ;D
Lots of numerology with TS....I mean Tupac. :icon_redface:
Here's one such analysis....
. tupac's death was too perfectly orchestrated and replete with too many biblical and numerological references to be simply coincidental.
the seven day theory depicts tupac as a christ- like figure being crucified on a cross. the liner notes credit a mysterious man named simon as the executive producer of the lp. incidentally, simon was the man who was said to have carried jesus' cross and was one of the first to witness his resurrection. there are also many numerological factors that surround both figures. for instance, the car tupac was riding in was shot 12 times. jesus had 12 disciples; adding jesus makes 13. according to numerology, 13 is a number of transition, a time when people or things undergo a major change of some sort {exit: 2pac- enter: makaveli}. tupac died on the 13th of september these same theorists point to the enormous number of the times that seven comes up in the bible is often associated with god and righteousness. as for pac and the number seven hw was shot exactly seven months after he released his double cd all eyez on me the 7th day of september and died seven days later at 4:03 pm {4+3=7} he was just 25 at the time of his death {2+5=7}. your figure.
Conspiracy theory is Tupac Still Alive? - Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26993)
No. 7 ......
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No one is ever truly lost, who believes. I don't normally do this, but here:
2 Peter 3
New International Version (NIV)
The Day of the Lord
1 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.
3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]
11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.
14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
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[...] Wow, I don't know yet for sure but, wouldn't it be beyond amazing if Tupac were alive !!!!!!!
What if Michael,Elvis,Whitney, and Tupac all came back together ???!!!!!!
What a way to shock the world and wake the world up !!!!! Holy Guacamole !!!
Tupac Shakur's initials are TS. [....]
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/OB_MAK%7E1.GIF)
2PAC's 7-numerology really has me like this :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCtUtAN6mSI&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=37&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHk7vjA3f9Q&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=24&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSagSAx7y1Q&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=12&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
14 years ---- > 77 :icon_e_wink:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CaLT8XAVc&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=11&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A2wyJ7wqD8&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=10&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0OJ06ipFCo&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=5&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
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wow Sim, that is really something! If that all is for real, I mean if Tupac is alive too, that would be amazing!
Imagine people`s reactions on those cases! :affraid: that is so eye-opening, that will really go down in the history! Hopefully after the events which we all are waiting for :icon_e_wink: people finally open their eyes to see the real truth, and start using their common sense more to find what is real and what is not.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09BNbRDXCY8[/youtube]
LMAO :icon_lol: The simple fact that they're EXPLAINING the hologram on TV as if to convince us that 2PAC is NOT alive, produces in me exactly the opposite BELIEF!! He's alive!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
Yeahh @emulik... it's amazing what's happening!!!
To admins/mods: can you pls unite all the threads on 2PAC's hologram into just ONE? I think there are already 3... or 4?
It's so confusing and difficult to follow them all...
Move Over, Tupac—Michael Jackson Hologram (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22507.msg399073;topicseen#new)
Tupac arise (hologram) together with Snoop (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22498.0)
Tupac Hologram at Coachella (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22502.0)
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It's been a long time since I've listened to HipHop, though I LOVE it!
I've found the full show ............ (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Musique/0008.gif)
Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg Coachella 2012 ( FULL ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOwHcgLNi8&feature=related[/youtube]
OK , this is some weird stuff that I noticed:
00:46 min - 2PAC shows up
00:51 min - 2PAC hologram disappears and the presenter screams to the public "let's make some F_ _ _ noise for 2PAC
00:52 min - we see a FAMILIAR green image (cardiac monitor) that made our hearts stop back in 2009 :icon_eek:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac002.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac00yny.jpg)(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac006.jpg)
00:51 - this chick shows up (part of EMINEM's intro) all dressed in a white sort of a dress floating like it was MILK, really made me think of Propofol :icon_lol: and she was singing... PAY attention to the lyrics!!
"[...]you've been gone for so long... I'm running out of time...
I need a doctor! Call me a doctor! I need a doctor... a doctor ... a doctor... to bring me BACK to Life!
Take a look at this article ... we find the same words as in the lyrics I quoted above ^^ only a "coincidence"?? Sure! :icon_geek:
MJ's 'heartbeat almost revived after collapse' (http://www.realbollywood.com/2010/03/mjs-heartbeat-revived-collapse.html)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac005.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac004.jpg)
Sim,
That is odd that Frank Sinatra was singing at the beginning of the video of Tupac. I did see something on either a hoax video or picture a few weeks ago of Frank Sinatra's Grave stone. The words "The best is yet to come" were on it. Maybe that's what they are trying to say. The Best is Yet To Come and you ain't seen nothing yet. And Lisa Presley had the song "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" ! Well I guess you guys aren't kidding. This just keeps getting better every day.
Wow, I don't know yet for sure but, wouldn't it be beyond amazing if Tupac were alive !!!!!!! What if Michael,Elvis,Whitney, and Tupac all came back together ???!!!!!!
What a way to shock the world and wake the world up !!!!! Holy Guacamole !!! Tupac Shakur's initials are TS.
I don't want to get too excited yet. Let it simmer and keep watching until we know more.
Love You All
YESSS ... the pieces come together better and better!
You're right about Frank Sinatra!! :omg: I posted that montage on this thread: Harvey Levin - Live in Concert - Page 1 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/?topic=22338.0)
I like how you put it all together! just great!!
If they come back all together, it will be the BAM of our lives! and yesssss that would WAKE everybody up!!
Love you!
Also, I forgot to add: did you hear the STORM and THUNDER-like sounds just before 2PAC is lifted up on stage?? :)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/169180msm.jpg)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09BNbRDXCY8[/youtube]
LMAO :icon_lol: The simple fact that they're EXPLAINING the hologram on TV as if to convince us that 2PAC is NOT alive, produces in me exactly the opposite BELIEF!! He's alive!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
Yeahh @emulik... it's amazing what's happening!!!
Sim, thanks for this. What a RIDICULOUS explanation and technological demonstration. Thank you people in TV land for your ever astute explanations of reality. He admits that he is PROJECTING an image onto a screen. So the question is, where did the image originate? :WTF:
And I love how he said, if Tupac were alive, this would be EASY to do. Duh! Isn't the easiest explanation usually the most likely? No one's asking why this 'advanced technology' would be introduced without any advanced publicity and given away for free! OR who owns the hologram.
BTW, I think we should be following Hologram Tupac's tweets. The latest is '4 days.' Whatever that might mean. And some of it is really funny, if you're not offended by the language.
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/HologramTupac)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ah-Fb48ma8[/youtube]
Ok, I'm soooo crAZED-up-fascinated by what happened that I needed to do a Hologram-clues-recap, just to watch it in AWE layed out like in the minutes of an "accident" :icon_lol:
28:45 - Frank Sinatra [remember "My Way"... TMZ-harvey Levin, ELVIS, etc...]
29:30 - Shake shake it baby! [prepare for the coming BAM - shake]
32:28 - STORM & Thunders ... [R U Rrreadyyyy??? ]
32:35 - CHURCH bell cling . . . [ Dead ... Resurrection....]
33:03 - [333] 2PAC is arisen from the stage/dead
33:06 - the CROSS [crucifixion]
33:14 - hands lifted up in a Christ-like position
33:20 - "Yeaahh! Do you KNOW what the F this is??" [This is IT]
33:29 - 1st crotch-grab :icon_geek:
37:30 - 2PAC hologram Vanishes
37:58 - the presenter screams to the public "let's make some F_ _ _ noise for 2PAC
38:24 - green image [cardiac monitor - heart beats]
38:30 - this chick shows up (part of EMINEM's intro) all dressed in a white sort of a dress floating like it was MILK, really made me think of Propofol :icon_lol: and she was singing... PAY attention to the lyrics!! ----> "[...]you've been gone for so long... I'm running out of time...
I need a doctor! Call me a doctor! I need a doctor... a doctor ... a doctor... to bring me BACK to Life!"
Freakin' GENIUS show!!!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac.png)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ah-Fb48ma8[/youtube]
Ok, I'm soooo crAZED-up-fascinated by what happened that I needed to do a Hologram-clues-recap, just to watch it in AWE layed out like in the minutes of an "accident" :icon_lol:
28:45 - Frank Sinatra [remember "My Way"... TMZ-harvey Levin, ELVIS, etc...]
29:30 - Shake shake it baby! [prepare for the coming BAM - shake]
32:28 - STORM & Thunders ... [R U Rrreadyyyy??? ]
32:35 - CHURCH bell cling . . . [ Dead ... Resurrection....]
33:03 - [333] 2PAC is arisen from the stage/dead
33:06 - the CROSS [crucifixion]
33:14 - hands lifted up in a Christ-like position
33:20 - "Yeaahh! Do you KNOW what the F this is??" [This is IT]
33:29 - 1st crotch-grab :icon_geek:
37:30 - 2PAC hologram Vanishes
37:58 - the presenter screams to the public "let's make some F_ _ _ noise for 2PAC
38:24 - green image [cardiac monitor - heart beats]
38:30 - this chick shows up (part of EMINEM's intro) all dressed in a white sort of a dress floating like it was MILK, really made me think of Propofol :icon_lol: and she was singing... PAY attention to the lyrics!! ----> "[...]you've been gone for so long... I'm running out of time...
I need a doctor! Call me a doctor! I need a doctor... a doctor ... a doctor... to bring me BACK to Life!"
Freakin' GENIUS show!!!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac.png)
:icon_eek: x 777
This whole show is amazing.......that Tupac hologram thing, wow! I don't know what to think, lol. I see the feet are transparent at times...but the very beginning, when he rises......I get chills...extreme chills. He looks dang clear there!!!!
You hit on all the points I found amazing....even the propofol looking chick, lol! Amazing....
Sinatra left me speechless.....why? Why include him in the this show? I am still wondering.......I love it, think it's great...but it's very random! Wow...thanks for thinking of me Sim! You know me so well.....I love 'Ol Blue Eyes (Sinatra)
Here is an old post....Eminem did this song at the Grammys:
Eminem (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=18318.msg315512#msg315512)
Blessings!
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Sim, You're my new BFF.
I need a Doctor to bring me back to life! The heart monitor is beating! OMG.
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Sim, this is the other video from elvisfantasay, that includes Elvis, Tupac and Michael Jackson..Love to all
ELVIS PRESLEY AND MICHAEL JACKSON WITH TUPAC IN THE GHETTO - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLy27DjpXZ0)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLy27DjpXZ0[/youtube]
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So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
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So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
Geeze, that stage is gonna be packed. Will it be like Ghosts where MJ points his finger and the dead come back to life?
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So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
Geeze, that stage is gonna be packed. Will it be like Ghosts where MJ points his finger and the dead come back to life?
If the BAM turns into a multi-BAM then I'm wondering if Tupac and Biggie knew this at the time they faked their deaths (if they did), that they would have to wait 15-16 years before they would come back. Or did they do it without knowing of Michael's plans for his own hoax? Did they originally not plan on coming back but Michael knew and is encouraging them to return when he does (and possibly Elvis too)? So many questions...
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Did you guys check out the coroner's report? Here it is if you want to read it. Is there something strange with it? There's also an autopsy picture but I don't want to post it.
http://www.2pac2k.de/imgs/corbig.gif (http://www.2pac2k.de/imgs/corbig.gif)
Sure PureLove ;-)
I analyse the "Tupac case" since 10 years. Back in 1996 when I first saw the Autopsy picture in a German magazine (BRAVO) I instantly said to a friend "that's a doublegänger" - without a profound analysis... lol. - because something in me said ,,this ain't true''. I just didn't feel "real" - same with Elvis and Michael. I was 11 years old at that time ;-)
Ok to the analysis of the AR :
physicals
-Weight: 215 pounds => no way correct is ~ 168 pounds
-hair / eye color: brown => his driver's license says black
social security number
-His social security is still active!!
-he is not registered in the death index
You can check the information here
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OotQAzcUpOU[/youtube]
The last picture with Suge is a fake:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwoETcmPG6s[/youtube]
Interesting interview with the guy that allegedly did the autopsy on him and his mother Afeni Shakur that identified him:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJiRrTiMd4U[/youtube]
Afeni: "he was tired" "he had a right" "I wish he was here everyday but I don't want him to be unhappy" "He chose to leave quietly"
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So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
Geeze, that stage is gonna be packed. Will it be like Ghosts where MJ points his finger and the dead come back to life?
If the BAM turns into a multi-BAM then I'm wondering if Tupac and Biggie knew this at the time they faked their deaths (if they did), that they would have to wait 15-16 years before they would come back. Or did they do it without knowing of Michael's plans for his own hoax? Did they originally not plan on coming back but Michael knew and is encouraging them to return when he does (and possibly Elvis too)? So many questions...
I feel a need to point out Tupac's connection to the Black Panthers. His sister was a famous BP and received asylum in Cuba where she's been residing for several years. Tupac has been rumored to be in Cuba. Eminem said so in a song and there's a video of him in what could be Cuba.
We know of Michael's Black Panther video....so there is that connection.
And here's a little something on Tupac's mother from wikipedia. Interesting woman!
Afeni Shakur Davis (born Alice Faye Williams:[1] January 22, 1947)[citation needed] is an African American music businesswoman, philanthropist, former political activist and ex-Black Panther. She is the mother of Tupac Shakur. She acted as her own criminal defense attorney after being accused of taking part in numerous bombings as a member of the Panthers.
She apparently has been using the money made from Tupac's posthumous music to fund an arts program. She also filed suit against Death Row records and won. She's obviously very involved in Tupac's 'legacy.' So why hasn't she said anything about her son's hologram. Shouldn't she be entitled to royalties?
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You hit on all the points I found amazing....even the propofol looking chick, lol! Amazing....
Sinatra left me speechless.....why? Why include him in the this show? I am still wondering... [...]
Yeah me too!! Frank Sinatra is great , but he has nothing to do with Coachella or HipHop... So his random inclusion into this show was one of the first things that drew my attention...
Sim, You're my new BFF.
I need a Doctor to bring me back to life! The heart monitor is beating! OMG.
lol What is BFF ? (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Reflexion/reflexion-gratte.gif)
Sim, this is the other video from elvisfantasay, that includes Elvis, Tupac and Michael Jackson..Love to all
ELVIS PRESLEY AND MICHAEL JACKSON WITH TUPAC IN THE GHETTO - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLy27DjpXZ0)
YESS, tks, I love this video. (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur4.gif) its creator was kind of prophetic, taking into account the current circumstances :icon_lol:
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Tupac Shakur's Coachella 2012 Holographic Technology Explained 4/16/2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09BNbRDXCY8)
LMAO :icon_lol: The simple fact that they're EXPLAINING^^ the hologram on TV as if to convince us that 2PAC is NOT alive, produces in me exactly the opposite BELIEF!! He's alive!!! :icon_bounce: :icon_bounce:
Sim, thanks for this. What a RIDICULOUS explanation and technological demonstration.
Thank you people in TV land for your ever astute explanations of reality. He admits that he is PROJECTING an image onto a screen.
So the question is, where did the image originate? :WTF:
And I love how he said, if Tupac were alive, this would be EASY to do. Duh! Isn't the easiest explanation usually the most likely? No one's asking why this 'advanced technology' would be introduced without any advanced publicity and given away for free! OR who owns the hologram.
BTW, I think we should be following Hologram Tupac's tweets. The latest is '4 days.' Whatever that might mean. And some of it is really funny, if you're not offended by the language.
Twitter (https://twitter.com/#!/HologramTupac)
Exactly! The "explanation" is ridiculous and that Hologram twitter is sooo hilarious!! not only the twits , but the idea in itself :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
Geeze, that stage is gonna be packed. Will it be like Ghosts where MJ points his finger and the dead come back to life?
If the BAM turns into a multi-BAM then I'm wondering if Tupac and Biggie knew this at the time they faked their deaths (if they did), that they would have to wait 15-16 years before they would come back. Or did they do it without knowing of Michael's plans for his own hoax? Did they originally not plan on coming back but Michael knew and is encouraging them to return when he does (and possibly Elvis too)? So many questions...
I ask myself the same questions... over and over...
I hope we will find out the truth some day... and which ones of these theories that HAUNT our minds like GHOSTS , are true and which are just the fruit of our HOAXified-imagination :icon_lol:
@PureLove & @jam4truth: tks for your comment and links! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/number1.gif)
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So if Tupac is alive, which seems likely, where does that leave Notorious B.I.G.???
Geeze, that stage is gonna be packed. Will it be like Ghosts where MJ points his finger and the dead come back to life?
If the BAM turns into a multi-BAM then I'm wondering if Tupac and Biggie knew this at the time they faked their deaths (if they did), that they would have to wait 15-16 years before they would come back. Or did they do it without knowing of Michael's plans for his own hoax? Did they originally not plan on coming back but Michael knew and is encouraging them to return when he does (and possibly Elvis too)? So many questions...
I feel a need to point out Tupac's connection to the Black Panthers. His sister was a famous BP and received asylum in Cuba where she's been residing for several years. Tupac has been rumored to be in Cuba. Eminem said so in a song and there's a video of him in what could be Cuba.
We know of Michael's Black Panther video....so there is that connection.
And here's a little something on Tupac's mother from wikipedia. Interesting woman!
Afeni Shakur Davis (born Alice Faye Williams:[1] January 22, 1947)[citation needed] is an African American music businesswoman, philanthropist, former political activist and ex-Black Panther. She is the mother of Tupac Shakur. She acted as her own criminal defense attorney after being accused of taking part in numerous bombings as a member of the Panthers.
She apparently has been using the money made from Tupac's posthumous music to fund an arts program. She also filed suit against Death Row records and won. She's obviously very involved in Tupac's 'legacy.' So why hasn't she said anything about her son's hologram. Shouldn't she be entitled to royalties?
I had no idea about the Black Panther connection - that's fascinating and could quite possibly be an explanation to where he is and who has helped shelter him for all this time. Hmmm.
About Tupac's mother...I find the recent articles on TMZ about her to be very interesting.
Title of article: Tupac's Mom Coachella Hologram Was Frickin' AMAZING
Tupac's Mom -- Coachella Hologram Was Frickin' AMAZING | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/16/tupac-mother-afeni-shakur-coachella-hologram/)
And a little snippet from that article: "A rep for Afeni tells TMZ, she was absolutely positively THRILLED with Tupac's virtual performance" - TMZ capped the word 'THRILLED' which could obviously totally be a MJ reference.
And this article on Tupac's mom as well.
Title of article - Tupac's Mom 'ECSTATIC' About New Musical
Tupac's Mom -- 'ECSTATIC' About New Musical | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/04/tupac-afeni-shakur-musical/)
Frickin' AMAZING...ECSTATIC...could she be referring to something else, like a return?
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I had no idea about the Black Panther connection - that's fascinating and could quite possibly be an explanation to where he is and who has helped shelter him for all this time. Hmmm.
About Tupac's mother...I find the recent articles on TMZ about her to be very interesting.
Title of article: Tupac's Mom Coachella Hologram Was Frickin' AMAZING
Tupac's Mom -- Coachella Hologram Was Frickin' AMAZING | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/16/tupac-mother-afeni-shakur-coachella-hologram/)
And a little snippet from that article: "A rep for Afeni tells TMZ, she was absolutely positively THRILLED with Tupac's virtual performance" - TMZ capped the word 'THRILLED' which could obviously totally be a MJ reference.
And this article on Tupac's mom as well.
Title of article - Tupac's Mom 'ECSTATIC' About New Musical
Tupac's Mom -- 'ECSTATIC' About New Musical | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/04/tupac-afeni-shakur-musical/)
Frickin' AMAZING...ECSTATIC...could she be referring to something else, like a return?
That's a strange reaction from his mom, don't you think. They describe her as 'famously protective' and yet a hologram of her deceased son elicits not the least concern on her part and she merely accepts a donation to her cause? Sorry, if that were my son I would be all over this
Then there's this error:
Afeni didn't attend the performance -- but we're told she watched it unfold live on the Internet ...
BUT IT WASN'T LIVE ON THE INTERNET!!! Yes, the concert was streaming EXCEPT for this performance.
Another tidbit.
TMZ also spoke with Dre's crewmate Daz Dillinger -- who tells us, Nate Dogg was originally supposed to appear as a hologram as well, but the decision was made at the last minute not to use him. Nate got a video tribute instead
This tweet from Hologram Tupac in response to a question as to whether or not Nate Dogg will be there.
Yall aint ready for what is going to happen this weekend!!!
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Another "THRILLED" from TMZ:
Dr. Dre I'd LOVE to See a Jimi Hendrix Hologram
Dr. Dre says he's THRILLED with the way his Tupac hologram rocked Coachella this weekend ... and tells TMZ he would love to see a Jimi Hendrix-ogram follow Pac's lead.
The hip-hop legend was at Boa steakhouse in Hollywood last night when he told us he's so fired up about the Tupac show, he's breaking out the hologram AGAIN at the next Coachella concert on Sunday ... and he's even thinking about taking Pac on tour.
Dre says he's hopeful the 2pac concert will inspire other artists to resurrect legendary musicians like Jimi Hendrix and Marvin Gaye.
Hell. Yes.
Dr. Dre -- I'd LOVE to See a Jimi Hendrix Hologram | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/19/dr-dre-jimi-hendrix-hologram-tupac/)
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@gwynned & @Andrea : (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/0018.gif) great & interesting posts! tks!
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Assata Shakur. Tupac's aunt in Cuba. Here's a bit of what she has to say.
About rap:
We don’t have time to talk about being players and hustlers and gangsters. We didn’t come off of the slave ships that way. We need to become proud Africans again and stop running around in Shirley Temple curls talkin’ ‘bout how we’re pimps and players. A lot of symbols that are in rap records and videos are indications of decadent consumerism, and in a very real sense, those gold chains, hundred-dollar sneakers and T-shirts with a designer’s name on it underline how much they’ve become enslaved by the consumer mentality in the United States—consumer slaves.
While most Cubans learn the techniques of rapping by way of cassettes and videos, often by imitating and braggadocio and materialism without really “getting” it, there are many Cuban rappers with a much higher understanding of the realities in the US. They are very intent on rapping their own message, one that is humanistic; that deals with pride, that deals with love. Hopefully, it will continue to evolve into a real, powerful Cuban rap that will empower—not poison—people. I have a dream that one day both they and those rappers in the US can come together on some level to share that same dream and vision.
On Cuba.
I chose to come to Cuba because of its politics, having been really impressed by the reading I’d done about the Cuban revolution. Both the revolutionary government and the Cuban people have a strong history of supporting the struggles of oppressed peoples, both around the world and inside the US, as well. They accepted me and I was given the status of “political exile,” as an African woman that refuses to be de-Africanized or demoralized based on persecution and oppression, repression, by the United States government.
One thing that immediately struck me when I arrived was how “African” Cuba really is, in the sense that people here have so much of the traditional African religions, dances and culture that was preserved in its purest form. It’s very different than in the United States where, due to the kind of slavery practiced, African people were completely stripped of their religion. In many places, the price for practicing was out-and-out death.
Maybe it's time to rethink Cuba, considered by GWB as part of the 'Axis of Evil.'
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Whenever I see "Axis of Evil" I can't help but think of Will Ferrell doing his GWB impression and saying it the way he does. :icon_lol:
I don't know a whole lot about Cuba other than Castro has always been very vocal about being anti-American...basically he sees the U.S. government for how it is and calls them on it. Can Americans now freely travel to and from Cuba because I don't think they could before. Here in Canada, Cuba is a very popular vacation destination. And I know that Cuba doesn't, for example, accept credit cards that are from U.S. companies.
Very interesting that Tupac's aunt lives there, perhaps she felt threatened or de-humanized living in the U.S.
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Another "THRILLED" from TMZ:
Dr. Dre I'd LOVE to See a Jimi Hendrix Hologram
Dr. Dre says he's THRILLED with the way his Tupac hologram rocked Coachella this weekend ... and tells TMZ he would love to see a Jimi Hendrix-ogram follow Pac's lead.
The hip-hop legend was at Boa steakhouse in Hollywood last night when he told us he's so fired up about the Tupac show, he's breaking out the hologram AGAIN at the next Coachella concert on Sunday ... and he's even thinking about taking Pac on tour.
Dre says he's hopeful the 2pac concert will inspire other artists to resurrect legendary musicians like Jimi Hendrix and Marvin Gaye.
Hell. Yes.
Dr. Dre -- I'd LOVE to See a Jimi Hendrix Hologram | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/19/dr-dre-jimi-hendrix-hologram-tupac/)
Resurrect legendary musicians in particular the ones who have been killed and/or with a lot of inconsistencies around their death: 2pac, Jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gaye..
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July 2009 I said that we will see MJ in hologram in concerts. Some people thought I was a nut case...well, well...
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ah-Fb48ma8[/youtube]
Ok, I'm soooo crAZED-up-fascinated by what happened that I needed to do a Hologram-clues-recap, just to watch it in AWE layed out like in the minutes of an "accident" :icon_lol:
28:45 - Frank Sinatra [remember "My Way"... TMZ-harvey Levin, ELVIS, etc...]
29:30 - Shake shake it baby! [prepare for the coming BAM - shake]
32:28 - STORM & Thunders ... [R U Rrreadyyyy??? ]
32:35 - CHURCH bell cling . . . [ Dead ... Resurrection....]
33:03 - [333] 2PAC is arisen from the stage/dead
33:06 - the CROSS [crucifixion]
33:14 - hands lifted up in a Christ-like position
33:20 - "Yeaahh! Do you KNOW what the F this is??" [This is IT]
33:29 - 1st crotch-grab :icon_geek:
37:30 - 2PAC hologram Vanishes
37:58 - the presenter screams to the public "let's make some F_ _ _ noise for 2PAC
38:24 - green image [cardiac monitor - heart beats]
38:30 - this chick shows up (part of EMINEM's intro) all dressed in a white sort of a dress floating like it was MILK, really made me think of Propofol :icon_lol: and she was singing... PAY attention to the lyrics!! ----> "[...]you've been gone for so long... I'm running out of time...
I need a doctor! Call me a doctor! I need a doctor... a doctor ... a doctor... to bring me BACK to Life!"
Freakin' GENIUS show!!!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2pac.png)
Wow,thanks Sim,you are awesome at putting things like this together.I am so excited,these connections can not be by coincidence.Omg,i feel like :moonwalk_:
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Jimmy Kimmel with guest hologram Larry King. :icon_rolleyes:
Tupac Hologram at Coachella - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_Dxng4HYc)
I love the line.....Let me get this straight. The guy comes back from the dead and his first question is 'Wazz up'?
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:affraid: Listen to THIS !!!! -----> http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/20/suge-knight-tupac-death-fakes/#.T5G2NtlWqwd (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/20/suge-knight-tupac-death-fakes/#.T5G2NtlWqwd)
Suge Knight I'm NOT CONVINCED 2Pac is Really Dead
There is a VERY good chance Tupac Shakur is alive and well ... and hiding ... this according to the man who was with him during the supposedly fatal shooting in Vegas, Suge Knight.
Knight just appeared on 93.5 KDay in L.A. with Tattoo and Cee Cee ... and pumped some major fuel into the biggest urban legend in hip hop ... that Tupac FAKED his own death.
Knight says his theory explains why cops never found his murderer -- because there was no murder.
"Maybe the question is ... Pac's not really dead ... pac's somewhere else," Knight says.
When asked if he ever saw Tupac's body following the 1996 shooting, he adds, "Nobody seen Tupac dead. "
Knight explains, "The person who supposedly cremated Tupac ... this guy got about 3 million dollars .. personally from me ... cash ... and next thing I know I never heard from the guy or seen him again ... he retired and left."
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Whenever I see "Axis of Evil" I can't help but think of Will Ferrell doing his GWB impression and saying it the way he does. :icon_lol:
I don't know a whole lot about Cuba other than Castro has always been very vocal about being anti-American...basically he sees the U.S. government for how it is and calls them on it. Can Americans now freely travel to and from Cuba because I don't think they could before. Here in Canada, Cuba is a very popular vacation destination. And I know that Cuba doesn't, for example, accept credit cards that are from U.S. companies.
Very interesting that Tupac's aunt lives there, perhaps she felt threatened or de-humanized living in the U.S.
Off-topic,.. now i also belong to the "axis of evil " :errrr: :icon_lol:
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[...]Wow,thanks Sim,you are awesome at putting things like this together.I am so excited,these connections can not be by coincidence.Omg,i feel like :moonwalk_:
No coincidences! :icon_e_wink:
Jimmy Kimmel with guest hologram Larry King. :icon_rolleyes:
Tupac Hologram at Coachella - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_Dxng4HYc)
I love the line.....Let me get this straight. The guy comes back from the dead and his first question is 'Wazz up'?
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: Yeahhh he's so funny!! tks for the link!
Larry King is forever present in "hoaxy" topics! :icon_e_wink:
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To admins/mods: can you pls unite all the threads on 2PAC's hologram into just ONE? I think there are already 3... or 4?
It's so confusing and difficult to follow them all...
Agree with this one. I forget which one I was following.
You guys are finding very interesting stuff. Thank you for your time and research. :th_bravo:
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To admins/mods: can you pls unite all the threads on 2PAC's hologram into just ONE? I think there are already 3... or 4?
It's so confusing and difficult to follow them all...
Agree with this one. I forget which one I was following.
YEPP! here they are:
Move Over, Tupac—Michael Jackson Hologram (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22507.msg399073;topicseen#new)
Tupac arise (hologram) together with Snoop (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22498.0)
Tupac Hologram at Coachella (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22502.0)
SUGE KNIGHT I'm NOT CONVINCED 2pac is Really Dead (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22512.0)
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To admins/mods: can you pls unite all the threads on 2PAC's hologram into just ONE? I think there are already 3... or 4?
It's so confusing and difficult to follow them all...
Agree with this one. I forget which one I was following.
YEPP! here they are:
Move Over, Tupac—Michael Jackson Hologram (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22507.msg399073;topicseen#new)
Tupac arise (hologram) together with Snoop (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22498.0)
Tupac Hologram at Coachella (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22502.0)
SUGE KNIGHT I'm NOT CONVINCED 2pac is Really Dead (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22512.0)
Thank you Sim. :icon_e_smile:
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Whenever I see "Axis of Evil" I can't help but think of Will Ferrell doing his GWB impression and saying it the way he does. :icon_lol:
I don't know a whole lot about Cuba other than Castro has always been very vocal about being anti-American...basically he sees the U.S. government for how it is and calls them on it. Can Americans now freely travel to and from Cuba because I don't think they could before. Here in Canada, Cuba is a very popular vacation destination. And I know that Cuba doesn't, for example, accept credit cards that are from U.S. companies.
Very interesting that Tupac's aunt lives there, perhaps she felt threatened or de-humanized living in the U.S.
Off-topic,.. now i also belong to the "axis of evil " :errrr: :icon_lol:
Slightly off-topic...
Well I know YOU are not evil Paula! :icon_lol: Ironically enough though, your President has had a public relationship with Cuba's Castro, which undermined the U.S. trying to cut Cuba off from the world. I also believe Chavez took back a lot of Venezuela's control from the U.S, like with your oil reserves. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding. I also remember that Chavez blamed the U.S. for causing the Haitian earthquakes (which is along the lines of what I think). So I guess a country is in the 'axis of evil' if they are vocal about U.S. government corruption.
The Axis of Evil Video (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/320224/)
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Slightly off-topic...
Well I know YOU are not evil Paula! :icon_lol: Ironically enough though, your President has had a public relationship with Cuba's Castro, which undermined the U.S. trying to cut Cuba off from the world. I also believe Chavez took back a lot of Venezuela's control from the U.S, like with your oil reserves. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding. I also remember that Chavez blamed the U.S. for causing the Haitian earthquakes (which is along the lines of what I think). So I guess a country is in the 'axis of evil' if they are vocal about U.S. government corruption.
The Axis of Evil Video (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/320224/)
I could go on all day about this topic. Chavez and Castro have a very close relationship. In fact Castro may have had a hand in averting the US backed coup against Chavez a few years back. It's just a hunch, but we may be hearing more about those two as matters unfold.
Sim, you are still my BFF....that TMZ (of course!!!) article on Suge Knight is a HUGE step. Besides, he and Hologram have been twittering. What more proof do you want.
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loll @gwynned totally agree with you, but this is the 2nd time I ask you: what does BFF mean?? :icon_lol:
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BEST FRIENDS FOREVER
Love you, Sim. :bearhug:
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aawww OKAYY then :) Best Friends Forevaaaaa :bearhug:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9bczPbgAI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMnmFyi8uo&feature=share[/youtube]
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The more I watch the video's of Tupac's hologram performing the more it looks so real and life-like.........
It will be interesting to see what happens at the performance this Sunday 22nd April at Coachella....
:icon_lol: afterall @HologramTupac tweeted on 20 April:
Yall aint ready for what is going to happen this weekend!!! RT @y_billyjohnson: @HologramTupac Is Hologram Nate Dogg coming to Coachellla?
:icon_lol:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9bczPbgAI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Amazing that the video came out almost simultaneously with the article TMZ posted and they cited about Suge. :WTF: Did they have some kind of advance notice? Or is it all coming from the same director? :icon_mrgreen:
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Sidenote: I think we would have a benefit focusing on one official hologram thread, getting all the information together and closing the other 3-4-5 threads. This is really an interesting subject.
I was digging a little bit into history and technology of holography and was taken by surprise that this technology is already more than 60 years old. It goes back to the work of Hungarian-British Nobel Prize winner Gábor Dénes who invented and developed it in the late 1940s. There are 10,000s of documentations about technical developments of all kinds of physics fields playing a role in holography.
What is holography?
Wikipedia has this to say:
Holography is a technique that enables a light field, which is generally the product of a light source scattered off of objects, to be recorded and later reconstructed when the original light field is no longer present, due to the absence of the original objects.[19] Holography can be thought of as somewhat similar to sound recording (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_recording), whereby a sound field created by vibrating matter like musical instruments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_instrument) or vocal cords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_cords), is encoded in such a way that it can be reproduced later, without the presence of the original vibrating matter.
Holograms are recorded using a flash of light that illuminates a scene and then imprints on a recording medium, much in the way a photograph is recorded. In addition, however, part of the light beam must be shone directly onto the recording medium - this second light beam is known as the reference beam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_beam). A hologram requires a laser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser) as the sole light source. Lasers can be precisely controlled and have a fixed wavelength (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength), unlike sunlight or light from conventional sources, which contain many different wavelengths. To prevent external light from interfering, holograms are usually taken in darkness, or in low level light of a different colour from the laser light used in making the hologram.
Holography requires a specific exposure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_%28photography%29) time (just like photography), which can be controlled using a shutter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutter_%28photography%29), or by electronically timing the laser.
Recording of a hologram:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Holograph-record.svg/370px-Holograph-record.svg.png) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Holograph-record.svg/370px-Holograph-record.svg.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography)
Conclusions from what I read (other sources included):
1) the technology was available in 1996
2) the technology requires a recording with support of a controlled laser in darkness
3) the technology cannot produce a good quality result with diffusive light sources like day light
4) the technology requires filming an object / person to be projected afterwards
5) the technology thus requires a specific set-up of a production
Could the production have taken place in 1996? Theoretically yes.
I am not familiar with tech details but I guess with a high tech post production of today one should be in the position to spice old film material considerably up - to what degree and if to the quality of the Tupac hologram ...
Considering other technologies - we remember the skeleton dance in Ghost.
The making of starts at 2:00:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXaktqYPZGc[/youtube]
Michael Jackson: The Making Of "Ghosts" (1997) part 2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXaktqYPZGc)
The making of Avatar:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZI1VABtvgA[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZI1VABtvgA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZI1VABtvgA&feature=related)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LQ3x4wA30[/youtube]
The Making Of: AVATAR Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LQ3x4wA30)
This is some of the future of art performance as it was discussed last year:
Director of Avatar was James Cameron.
Cirque du Soleil goes 3D with James CameronCNET News on April 25, 2011
[...]
By the time he came to Montreal, we were planning to do this 3D movie with Andrew Adamson, and James decided he wanted to join as executive producer.
[...]
This is a movie?
This is a 3D movie. The story is very simple. It's a couple falling in love in a traditional circus, and then they fall into a surreal world and they're running after each other and keep losing each other, but they're running from one surreal world to another surreal world, and all those worlds are the seven Cirque du Soleil shows in Las Vegas.
[...]
What would that look like?
Let’s look at the show we’re developing right now for Michael Jackson. As you know, Michael had a huge visual component in his shows, so just imagine a trapeze artist right in front of you, but behind her there are some 3D special effects that will merge with her performance, and give a lot of depth to what she’s doing. Maybe you have one trapeze which is live, and maybe you have 1,000 trapezes behind her in 3D. So that’s what I mean by merging the 3D technology with the live performance, and that’s what we’re exploring now.
Cirque du Soleil goes 3D with James Cameron - Software - Insight (http://www.zdnetasia.com/cirque-du-soleil-goes-3d-with-james-cameron-62208503.htm)
Was the hologram filmed with a living Tupac using laser in a specific production set-up (and when?)?
Now what if one should be in the position today to combine all three technologies:
- 3D production
- projection of "performance capture of an artist giving that to a digital character" like in Ghost / Avatar
- holographic projection
Could the hologram of Tupac have been produced with an impersonator wearing markers and projecting this on a digitally created Tupac with post production similar to Ghost or Avatar?
Martin Scorsese already talks about hologram movies.
Scorsese Figures We'll Have Hologram Movies Soon Enough | I Watch Stuff (http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/11/scorsese-figures-well-have-hologram-movi.php)
This gives some of the technical state of the art of holographic TV in 2007:
Holovisions.com: Holographic Video and Holographic Televisions: The State of the Art (http://www.holovisions.com/holographic_television.html)
This explains the interactions and combined use of holograms and computer graphics:
http://www.holographer.org/articles/hg00011/hg00011.pdf (http://www.holographer.org/articles/hg00011/hg00011.pdf)
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:affraid: Listen to THIS !!!! -----> http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/20/suge-knight-tupac-death-fakes/#.T5G2NtlWqwd (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/20/suge-knight-tupac-death-fakes/#.T5G2NtlWqwd)
Suge Knight I'm NOT CONVINCED 2Pac is Really Dead
There is a VERY good chance Tupac Shakur is alive and well ... and hiding ... this according to the man who was with him during the supposedly fatal shooting in Vegas, Suge Knight.
Knight just appeared on 93.5 KDay in L.A. with Tattoo and Cee Cee ... and pumped some major fuel into the biggest urban legend in hip hop ... that Tupac FAKED his own death.
Knight says his theory explains why cops never found his murderer -- because there was no murder.
"Maybe the question is ... Pac's not really dead ... pac's somewhere else," Knight says.
When asked if he ever saw Tupac's body following the 1996 shooting, he adds, "Nobody seen Tupac dead. "
Knight explains, "The person who supposedly cremated Tupac ... this guy got about 3 million dollars .. personally from me ... cash ... and next thing I know I never heard from the guy or seen him again ... he retired and left."
wow, is that for real? that man was with him during shooting?? and he is saying that he is maybe somewhere in hiding? :affraid:
that says it all, wow! it seems that everybody is being prepared for death hoax.. :icon_bounce:
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Ha, do we know for sure that's a hologram??? :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
it's a hologram, you can there's something wrong where the feet meets the floor..
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Tupac Is Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :affraid:
TMZ has obtained photographic evidence that Tupac Shakur is alive and well and drinking Hand Grenades in New Orleans -- unless we're terribly mistaken
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image2.jpg)
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5Rr59lWqwc (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5Rr59lWqwc)
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
13 years after he was shot and "killed" in Las Vegas ... a man appearing to be 2pac was spotted in a bar on Bourbon Street last weekend.
We were unable to get any sort of DNA evidence -- but this photo is good enough for us.
Thug life, bitches.
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Tupac Is Alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :affraid:
TMZ has obtained photographic evidence that Tupac Shakur is alive and well and drinking Hand Grenades in New Orleans -- unless we're terribly mistaken
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image2.jpg)
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5Rr59lWqwc (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5Rr59lWqwc)
:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:
13 years after he was shot and "killed" in Las Vegas ... a man appearing to be 2pac was spotted in a bar on Bourbon Street last weekend.
We were unable to get any sort of DNA evidence -- but this photo is good enough for us.
Thug life, bitches.
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image3.jpg)
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I made a comparison photo-montage!!
he looks so young!! he seems to have been cryogenated! loll Not a single wrinkle!
Either they clonated him or . . . HE IS REALLY ALIVEEE !!!!!!!!! :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image4.jpg)
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@Sim: he does not have the same ears though, does he? I don´t know.
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:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
I can't breathe.......
I love it.. He's drinking hand grenades!!!! He certainly dropped a bomb with this one!!!
And here's an interesting point if I do say so myself. My understanding is that he was at the time of 'death' wanted on rape charges. If he's walking around freely, have the charges been dropped? If they've been dropped is it because.....the sting operation is over?????
I NEED A DOCTOR!!!!!
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Gwynned
According to one of the videos posted above, the rape charge was reduced to something like an assault. He said it was reduced to a charge for touching the woman's butt. He received 1.5 to 4.5 prison sentence for this. Unless there was another rape charge afterward that I don't know about ????
Anyway, I believe what he says. He didn't do anything. Another Innocent put away because he's trying to stand up for freedom and injustice.
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:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
I can't breathe.......
I love it.. He's drinking hand grenades!!!! He certainly dropped a bomb with this one!!!
And here's an interesting point if I do say so myself. My understanding is that he was at the time of 'death' wanted on rape charges. If he's walking around freely, have the charges been dropped? If they've been dropped is it because.....the sting operation is over?????
I NEED A DOCTOR!!!!!
:) :) YeP grenades ! :thjajaja121: (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Combat/0003.gif) BAM-BOMB!!
2PAC you'd better bring Mj & Elvis with you next time you go to a party photographed by TMZ!!! :multiplespotting:
You said you need a doc? lol Here's 2 sexy docs for our hoax-family :icon_geek: :icon_lol:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/25ppouryr.jpg)
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/amoureux-5930.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/amoureux-5930.gif)(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/amoureux-5930.gif)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/2522661907.jpg)
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@Sim: he does not have the same ears though, does he? I don´t know.
Looks to me that is the same person, mainly by looking at the ears and skull. :suspect:
That man, Tupac, should be noticed by the people around. I didn´t know who he was untill i read it here but i guess he was big in USA and his death was a shock for his fans.
He could be a double as well, but the skull and facial features are pretty linked in both pics.
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I made a comparison photo-montage!!
he looks so young!! he seems to have been cryogenated! loll Not a single wrinkle!
Either they clonated him or . . . HE IS REALLY ALIVEEE !!!!!!!!! :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image4.jpg)
Tupac has a twin brother :icon_question: :affraid: :animal0017:
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Here's a recent tweet from Hollergram TS
Hologram Tupac @HologramTupac
Yo, yall don't know? Snoop has been a cartoon for the past 10 years. RT @jaymattic: @HologramTupac Tell that to your homie Snoop Dogg...
I read somewhere that Tupac considered Snoop a sell out. Was his appearance a way of punishing Snoop by totally upstaging him!
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Don't you all find it odd, that he never opens his eyes, lol? This was STAGED, by a dude who looks similar.
Eyebrows - different;
Ears - definitely different.
Bone structure is different, under the skin.
Tupac has a much stronger chin; this guy, a weak chin, covered with a goatee.
Almost a double-chin - different;
Roll of fat on neck, when tilting back - different.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him? :thjajaja121:
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Don't you all find it odd, that he never opens his eyes, lol? This was STAGED, by a dude who looks similar.
Eyebrows - different;
Ears - definitely different.
Bone structure is different, under the skin.
Tupac has a much stronger chin; this guy, a weak chin, covered with a goatee.
Almost a double-chin - different;
Roll of fat on neck, when tilting back - different.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him? :thjajaja121:
Much as I hate to say it, I think you are right. At first glance, it looked like him and they said it was, so I didn't dig deeper shame on me!!! :Pulling_hair: But you're still wrong on Zimmerman!
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Don't you all find it odd, that he never opens his eyes, lol? This was STAGED, by a dude who looks similar.
Eyebrows - different;
Ears - definitely different.
Bone structure is different, under the skin.
Tupac has a much stronger chin; this guy, a weak chin, covered with a goatee.
Almost a double-chin - different;
Roll of fat on neck, when tilting back - different.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him? :thjajaja121:
Much as I hate to say it, I think you are right. At first glance, it looked like him and they said it was, so I didn't dig deeper shame on me!!! :Pulling_hair: But you're still wrong on Zimmerman!
Surrounded by a bunch of drunk people in New Orleans.....great place to walk around and really not be noticed much.
I am still 50/50 on it truly being Tupac there...however, I think it would be a smart place to test the waters, so-to-speak....
definite resemblance for sure!
Blessings Always!
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Don't you all find it odd, that he never opens his eyes, lol? This was STAGED, by a dude who looks similar.
Eyebrows - different;
Ears - definitely different.
Bone structure is different, under the skin.
Tupac has a much stronger chin; this guy, a weak chin, covered with a goatee.
Almost a double-chin - different;
Roll of fat on neck, when tilting back - different.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him? :thjajaja121:
Much as I hate to say it, I think you are right. At first glance, it looked like him and they said it was, so I didn't dig deeper shame on me!!! :Pulling_hair: But you're still wrong on Zimmerman!
Fine, I'll take that.
Though...I'd secretly would rather be wrong about Tupac. I could cut a photo of his face in there, and match the lighting for you, if it would make you happy. :icon_e_ugeek:
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Fine, I'll take that.
Though...I'd secretly would rather be wrong about Tupac. I could cut a photo of his face in there, and match the lighting for you, if it would make you happy. :icon_e_ugeek:
Absolutely! Now worries. Just cuz he wasn't in New Orleans throwing down hand grenades, don't mean he's dead. Besides, my son and I have a wager and he's not accepting TMZ as a reliable source of information. So maybe you could get him on the cover of Time and arrange of SIMterview with Diane Sawyer or something. The problem is he has to cut the lawn all summer for free if Pac's alive and the lawn is almost up to my knees! PRETTY PLEASE????
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sure, it's not Tupac. He's wearing a white shirt and no bandana.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him?
No. If it really was Tupac, he was an exact metaphor of truth. So he was safe. )
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:) :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8arBl2L31w&feature=g-all-u&context=G23c378fFAAAAAPAAGAA[/youtube]
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sure, it's not Tupac. He's wearing a white shirt and no bandana.
AND - if he really was Tupac, don't you think everyone in the bar would notice, and be looking at him?
No. If it really was Tupac, he was an exact metaphor of truth. So he was safe. )
After so much time people can think, " I saw a dude equal to Tupac" :affraid:. All not to have happened, we walked down the street and confuse a well known person with another. :suspect: :icon_lol:
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Tupac was NOT a hologram, he is too real.
did you notice the light which comes out of his body?
What you've just witnessed was NOT a special effect. it was real.
Tupac may have faked his death, but it is impossible for any human being to return since 16 years and do not age .
You have to think way outside the box to understand what really happened to Michael Jackson and where he is actually . even if you refuse to accept something you can't ignore the truth. this is NOT just a hoax.
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sure, it's not Tupac. He's wearing a white shirt and no bandana.
:thjajaja121:
Same apply to Michael. If he is not walking here and there in Billie Jean pants and glittery socks and glove, he is not Michael!
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Tupac was NOT a hologram, he is too real.
did you notice the light which comes out of his body?
What you've just witnessed was NOT a special effect. it was real.
Tupac may have faked his death, but it is impossible for any human being to return since 16 years and do not age .
You have to think way outside the box to understand what really happened to Michael Jackson and where he is actually . even if you refuse to accept something you can't ignore the truth. this is NOT just a hoax.
I don't discount any possibility. I will say that, not having been exposed to Tupac and not having any preconceived notion about him, when I saw that clip, it sent chills through me. With his arms outstretched like that, he reminded me of V with his hands raised against the burning building. Anyone notice the burning/light theme going on? Is there a meaning to it beyond the residue of scars? After all, it was the scarred Dave Dave who appeared with a third eye. Are we talking enLIGHTenment here?
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Tupac was NOT a hologram, he is too real.
did you notice the light which comes out of his body?
What you've just witnessed was NOT a special effect. it was real.
Tupac may have faked his death, but it is impossible for any human being to return since 16 years and do not age .
You have to think way outside the box to understand what really happened to Michael Jackson and where he is actually . even if you refuse to accept something you can't ignore the truth. this is NOT just a hoax.
IMO it was just a projected hologram that cost a couple k of $'s - "nothing paranormal". As I've never seen "Pac's jaming moves" (especially the victory sign and Crip Walk) in any live appearance before there are two possibilities:
-It is a holographic projection of a Computer generated 3D-model
-An intentionally altered holographically projected (concerning speed of his movements) recording / live broadcast of the "living Tupac" interacting with his homies from the old days
I think the most important connections to Michael are the Victory Sign and the intro of "Off The Wall" at the end.
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I made a comparison photo-montage!!
he looks so young!! he seems to have been cryogenated! loll Not a single wrinkle!
Either they clonated him or . . . HE IS REALLY ALIVEEE !!!!!!!!! :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image4.jpg)
:affraid: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_eek:
Thank you for the photo-montage Sim. WOW! The guy in the picture looks definitely like Tupac. Do we know when those pictures were taken? The ones TMZ posted?
P.S: Your banner is so adorable Sim. :icon_e_biggrin:
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OK....the song he does with Snoop....what is it and when has he sung it? That's one thing I was wondering.....
the other thing is that Coachella began in 1999.....he was shot in 1996. When he screams out Coachella.....is that a voice-double?
Or was it him? I think it may been a hologram, however, they shot it with him prior to the concert. How else could they have "interacted" with Snoop so well......here is an interesting site about the making of.....perhaps it was just all computer generated......I do see his transparency in the foot areas at times. But, I have to say....wow....amazing!
How Did They Create the Tupac Hologram? (http://community.digitalmediaacademy.org/16726-how-did-they-create-the-tupac-hologram)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Blessings Always
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.I do see his transparency in the foot areas at times. But, I have to say....wow....amazing!
How Did They Create the Tupac Hologram? (http://community.digitalmediaacademy.org/16726-how-did-they-create-the-tupac-hologram)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Blessings Always
I also noticed that same light with his boots. I looked at Snoops shoes & you could tell he was actually on a ground floor, but cetain angles looked like there was no floor, but light as to where his boots should be planted firmly on the ground.
Does anyone knows exactly was concert Tupac was performing at, if they claim it's just a hologram? Had to have come from some live performance.
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I made a comparison photo-montage!!
he looks so young!! he seems to have been cryogenated! loll Not a single wrinkle!
Either they clonated him or . . . HE IS REALLY ALIVEEE !!!!!!!!! :woohoo2:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/image4.jpg)
:affraid: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_eek:
Thank you for the photo-montage Sim. WOW! The guy in the picture looks definitely like Tupac. Do we know when those pictures were taken? The ones TMZ posted?
P.S: Your banner is so adorable Sim. :icon_e_biggrin:
It was taken in Vegas
OK....the song he does with Snoop....what is it and when has he sung it? That's one thing I was wondering.....
the other thing is that Coachella began in 1999.....he was shot in 1996. When he screams out Coachella.....is that a voice-double?
Or was it him? I think it may been a hologram, however, they shot it with him prior to the concert. How else could they have "interacted" with Snoop so well......here is an interesting site about the making of.....perhaps it was just all computer generated......I do see his transparency in the foot areas at times. But, I have to say....wow....amazing!
How Did They Create the Tupac Hologram? (http://community.digitalmediaacademy.org/16726-how-did-they-create-the-tupac-hologram)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Blessings Always
It was taken from bits and pieces of different performances...and the Coachella thing could be a double but I doubt it, it definitely is him speaking.
.I do see his transparency in the foot areas at times. But, I have to say....wow....amazing!
How Did They Create the Tupac Hologram? (http://community.digitalmediaacademy.org/16726-how-did-they-create-the-tupac-hologram)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley_Music_and_Arts_Festival)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur)
Blessings Always
I also noticed that same light with his boots. I looked at Snoops shoes & you could tell he was actually on a ground floor, but cetain angles looked like there was no floor, but light as to where his boots should be planted firmly on the ground.
Does anyone knows exactly was concert Tupac was performing at, if they claim it's just a hologram? Had to have come from some live performance.
Yeah it did come from live performances, but I don't see them getting the performance right with the performances he did before he 'died'...I smell a fish and it ain't a hologram...lol
Also how about all this talk of not only an MJ holo but a holo of Left Eye?...Tupac's holo def. started something, I mean it was AMAZING!
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It sure looks to me that is Tupac in Vegas! I believe it really is a hologram of Tupac at the festival, but I think it was done post his "death" when they could take the proper multi direction images of him, and where he could yell the "Coachella" words.
Simpa, I love how you have so many videos at your finger-tips! :ghsdf: :icon_e_biggrin:
:bearhug:
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[...]Simpa, I love how you have so many videos at your finger-tips! :ghsdf: :icon_e_biggrin: :bearhug:
lol What do you mean?
[....] :affraid: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_eek:
Thank you for the photo-montage Sim. WOW! The guy in the picture looks definitely like Tupac. Do we know when those pictures were taken? The ones TMZ posted?
P.S: Your banner is so adorable Sim. :icon_e_biggrin:
aww thank you, I'm glad you love my sig (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0039.gif)
Well this TMZ article (where those 2PAC-photos were posted) had been published in April 2009. So probably that party must have taken place few days prior to the TMZ article or something like that...
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5mTsFJWqwd (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5mTsFJWqwd)
These 2 pics circulate like fire on FB these days.... :elvis-1405: :icon_rr: :moonwalk_:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5585191375.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5779083953.jpg)
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyyAjgiY798&feature=share[/youtube]
Tupac, Elvis, Michael Jackson: Dead celeb conspiracy theories - Pics
Published Monday, Apr 23 2012, 18:20 BST | By Naomi Gordon |
Tupac, Elvis, Michael Jackson: Dead celeb conspiracy theories - Pics - Showbiz News - Digital Spy (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a378030/tupac-elvis-michael-jackson-dead-celeb-conspiracy-theories-pics.html)
Following last week's Tupac Shakur hologram at the Coachella music festival, which finished over the weekend,
and Sir Tom Jones's anecdotes about former friend Elvis Presley on The Voice UK, we take a look at
other late iconic stars - from Michael Jackson to James Dean - who despite their deaths, remain the
subject of many conspiracy theories claiming they're still alive.
^^ Speaking of Tom Jones.................. 8) :icon_e_wink:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7hPLCHuNM[/youtube]
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Content/D_SMIL%7E1.GIF) (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Content/a_plain.gif)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSn5YEWjfM&feature=related[/youtube]
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:icon_lol: I mean you're good at finding so many choice videos! :woohoo2:
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[...]Simpa, I love how you have so many videos at your finger-tips! :ghsdf: :icon_e_biggrin: :bearhug:
lol What do you mean?
[....] :affraid: :icon_e_surprised: :icon_eek:
Thank you for the photo-montage Sim. WOW! The guy in the picture looks definitely like Tupac. Do we know when those pictures were taken? The ones TMZ posted?
P.S: Your banner is so adorable Sim. :icon_e_biggrin:
aww thank you, I'm glad you love my sig (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/0039.gif)
Well this TMZ article (where those 2PAC-photos were posted) had been published in April 2009. So probably that party must have taken place few days prior to the TMZ article or something like that...
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5mTsFJWqwd (http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/tupac-is-alive/#.T5mTsFJWqwd)
:affraid: :affraid: :affraid:
in 2009? Then Tupac is definitely alive becoz that's him in Vegas pics. :woohoo2:
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I don't know for sure of course,but T.S did say he was working on a project,Could that project have been the Tupac Shakur hologram? Why come out with a hologram now with Tupac dancing and rapping on stage now? Is it to make people question if he is alive or not. I believe that this hoax is not only about MJ himself,but a hoax that is so large in scale that there is more players in this adventure. So far we may have 3 of the biggest artists in their respective genre,Elvis= King of Rock,Michael=King of pop,Tupac=King of rap?
Alot of people thought he was the king of rap. All of them "died" but fans believe they hoaxed their deaths! All with numerology attached to their demise. Will we see more holograms soon to make us question even more,I believe we will. I think this year we will see some incredible things that will make not only believers question what we are looking at,but it will make non believers question everything we have been forced fed by our media all our lives. I really thought I was going nuts when I heard "Off the wall" before Tupac disappeared on stage. I felt like it was to confirm a connection to Michael. In other forums I put up a question to believers if it was possible T.S was Tupac Shakur reason being i thought was why the initials T.S and the forum started screaming this is a forum about MJ! I really am not trying to figure out who he is but it was just a passing thought,They did not want to explore the notion. I think it is not crazy to think that this could be possible. Since the beginning of this forum the believers here really keep an open mind which I love. Maybe there are more artists involved in this adventure that any of us can guess. One big thing about all of this is with Michael leading the way,you never know what to expect. MJ did say " I wanna shock them ! wanna go for the jugular!"
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A good evening, hoax believers!
Here is a link to the how they allegedly did the hologram:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3896668_700b_v1.jpg (http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3896668_700b_v1.jpg)
So ... being not exactly tech savy (but not un-talented either :icon_e_biggrin:) ... I have to wonder about the angle of the transparent foil where the image - according to this technique - is reflected. However, shouldn't Tupacs image actually be distorted with a 45° angle? Unless you correct that before the reflection? And Tupac was clearly not distorted.
What disturbs me mostly about this 'technique' is: according to my knowledge a reflected/projected image as they've presented is not a hologram. And what I've seen on this video - and mind you this is just from what I've seen on the video - this seemed not to be just a simple reflection. If it was, then all three objects (camera, reflecting surface and projection foil) would have to be fixed at a 45° angle to erase distortion.
Add the fact, that the crowd was pretty close to the stage, and Snoop and Tupac were pretty close to the edge of the stage, hence there was not enough space for a reflecting surface. Angle of projection and width of reflecting ground - I say that was NOT how Tupac was 'made alive'.
Conventional science claims that a hologram as in Star Wars is not yet possible, so when Tupac was a hologram:
What yet unknown technique WAS used?
If it was NOT then one can not speak of a hologram but rather a simple reflected image. It would be a misleading of the crowd when speaking of a hologram. While I am convinced that the technical evolution is way ahead of its time on a military/intelligence/ level I highly doubt it would be used now just for fun by projecting Tupac with Snoop. Especially when considering project Bluebeam which I doubt would let the music business use its technique first. The effect of the (maybe) planned sky showdown would be blowing in the wind ...
EDIT: unless the projection foil was fixed in a 90° angle right at the front of the stage and he was projected from the back of the stage. Still there would be a beam visible ... so, no.
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Watch what was declared as Michael's future plans: holograms.
Starting at 6:25
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-y1kjCiTo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Michael Jackson could still be Alive (Sequel Part 36): Old and New - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ-y1kjCiTo&feature=player_embedded)
Video sequences taken from Channel 4 documentary (here in Croatian):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3pzKxlrpk[/youtube]
Michael Jackson`s Secret Hollywood (Tajni Holivud Michael Jacksona) TV RIP - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3pzKxlrpk)
Blog about it:
6 months in 2009: “You Oughta be in Pictures” (http://6monthsin2009.blogspot.de/2010/12/you-oughta-be-in-pictures.html)
All credits go to applehead.
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I don't know for sure of course,but T.S did say he was working on a project,Could that project have been the Tupac Shakur hologram? Why come out with a hologram now with Tupac dancing and rapping on stage now? Is it to make people question if he is alive or not. I believe that this hoax is not only about MJ himself,but a hoax that is so large in scale that there is more players in this adventure. So far we may have 3 of the biggest artists in their respective genre,Elvis= King of Rock,Michael=King of pop,Tupac=King of rap?
Alot of people thought he was the king of rap. All of them "died" but fans believe they hoaxed their deaths! All with numerology attached to their demise. Will we see more holograms soon to make us question even more,I believe we will. I think this year we will see some incredible things that will make not only believers question what we are looking at,but it will make non believers question everything we have been forced fed by our media all our lives. I really thought I was going nuts when I heard "Off the wall" before Tupac disappeared on stage. I felt like it was to confirm a connection to Michael. In other forums I put up a question to believers if it was possible T.S was Tupac Shakur reason being i thought was why the initials T.S and the forum started screaming this is a forum about MJ! I really am not trying to figure out who he is but it was just a passing thought,They did not want to explore the notion. I think it is not crazy to think that this could be possible. Since the beginning of this forum the believers here really keep an open mind which I love. Maybe there are more artists involved in this adventure that any of us can guess. One big thing about all of this is with Michael leading the way,you never know what to expect. MJ did say " I wanna shock them ! wanna go for the jugular!"
Every day we add someone else to our usual suspects. I would suggest there are people well beyond Hollywood involved in this hoax, to include leaders of large corporations and perhaps even countries as well.
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This is huuuuuge. I think it involves the "entire" world or will sooner or later.
:abouttime:
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Tupac was NOT a hologram, he is too real.
did you notice the light which comes out of his body?
What you've just witnessed was NOT a special effect. it was real.
Tupac may have faked his death, but it is impossible for any human being to return since 16 years and do not age .
You have to think way outside the box to understand what really happened to Michael Jackson and where he is actually . even if you refuse to accept something you can't ignore the truth. this is NOT just a hoax.
IMO it was just a projected hologram that cost a couple k of $'s - "nothing paranormal". As I've never seen "Pac's jaming moves" (especially the victory sign and Crip Walk) in any live appearance before there are two possibilities:
-It is a holographic projection of a Computer generated 3D-model
-An intentionally altered holographically projected (concerning speed of his movements) recording / live broadcast of the "living Tupac" interacting with his homies from the old days
I think the most important connections to Michael are the Victory Sign and the intro of "Off The Wall" at the end.
:omg: :thjajaja121:i looked at the avitar on this post and thought i was losing my mind! :icon_lol: :thjajaja121: i thought to myself i didn't make this post ( or did i somehow and not remember :Pulling_hair:) and then i looked and saw that it was not me . :WTF:
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LMFAO :thjajaja121:
TMZ ----- > TLC We're Resurrecting Left Eye FOR A REUNION TOUR (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/25/tlc-reunion-tour-left-eye-lisa-lopes/#.T5xsi1JWqwc)
All you need is 2PAC hologram and suddenly all dead come alive! :icon_lol:
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:moonwalk_: :suspect: :icon_lol:
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LMFAO :thjajaja121:
TMZ ----- > TLC We're Resurrecting Left Eye FOR A REUNION TOUR (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/25/tlc-reunion-tour-left-eye-lisa-lopes/#.T5xsi1JWqwc)
All you need is 2PAC hologram and suddenly all dead come alive! :icon_lol:
Of course.....is the great adventure !!! :icon_bounce: :icon_razz: :michael-jackson:
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TOS Obsession transporter scene - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HxKJyeCRVek)
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LMFAO :thjajaja121:
TMZ ----- > TLC We're Resurrecting Left Eye FOR A REUNION TOUR (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/25/tlc-reunion-tour-left-eye-lisa-lopes/#.T5xsi1JWqwc)
All you need is 2PAC hologram and suddenly all dead come alive! :icon_lol:
:affraid: Seriously what's going on here? :icon_e_surprised: :icon_lol:
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LMFAO :thjajaja121:
TMZ ----- > TLC We're Resurrecting Left Eye FOR A REUNION TOUR (http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/25/tlc-reunion-tour-left-eye-lisa-lopes/#.T5xsi1JWqwc)
All you need is 2PAC hologram and suddenly all dead come alive! :icon_lol:
:affraid: Seriously what's going on here? :icon_e_surprised: :icon_lol:
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: Ain't Nothin'g But a motha' f_ _ _ HOAXsta' PARTY ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvQEvQ3E0Y8&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=92&feature=plpp_video) :icon_albino:
"Snoop Dogg enjoys Viva ELVIS" from Elvis Presley on Myspace (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/personnage.gif) :icon_lol:
:icon_lol: :icon_lol: Jeez I love this hoax! (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/dance.gif)
------ > View Artist Profile (http://www.myspace.com/thekingelvis/photos/72722588)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/l.jpg)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lr1_EGB-Hs&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=94&feature=plpp_video[/youtube]
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/5280331395.jpg)
MICHAEL JACKSON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN & Tupac
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AbHkTLCeLM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9bczPbgAI&feature=channel&list=UL[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm4suQ3wGeE&feature=share[/youtube]
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READ HERE ----- > Front's PI & Crystal ball ---> Exhibit B (HOLOGRAM) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/index.php?topic=22554.msg400922#msg400922)
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:) :) :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ3OCOSAy4I[/youtube]
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:) :) :)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ3OCOSAy4I[/youtube]
Is it me or does this whole concert seem like a movie? Too polished.
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"Is it me or does this whole concert seem like a movie? Too polished. "
Gynned,
Seems like an advertizement to me. But it is really intriguing to realize that this hologram technology has been being used for awhile now! Pretty amazing!
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These videos are just AWESOME!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrboauwrS8Q&feature=share[/youtube]
Number 50 - MJ - 50 Cent - 2 PAC
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Excs_dWvqus&feature=plcp[/youtube]
Faked autopsy pic
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x-emHPiM3M[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91dWjwNtjg[/youtube]
Just a nice remix :icon_e_wink:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnd6AunOz60&feature=related[/youtube]
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really awesome Sim!! thank you for sharing :)
Time is approaching and I look forward to "The best is yet to come!" :)
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Yep emulik! We ain't seen nothin' yet! :icon_e_wink: