@ mjj4ever777 :bearhug:
I guess I am confused.
pickachu, thegame,truesource,
:WTF:
oh.....really...OK, sorryI guess I am confused.
pickachu, thegame,truesource,
:WTF:
what pikachu?
nice trio, but i'm not with them.
(sorry guys, but i'm a lonely hero, lol ; )
43 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-43.htm)“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighborh (http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/5-43.htm#footnotesh) and hate your enemy.’ 44 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-44.htm)But I tell you: Love your enemiesi (http://niv.scripturetext.com/matthew/5-43.htm#footnotesi) and pray for those who persecute you, 45 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-45.htm)that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-46.htm)If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-47.htm)And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 (http://bible.cc/matthew/5-48.htm)Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.Matthew 5:43-48
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I started this thread because I thought that @Truesource (Paplo) could have possibly resembled "Orange Pants" in This is It. However, most of the video's where he was dancing were made private by him, I think because too many were uploading them without his permission.
Regardless of this discussion Pablo does make beautiful videos depicting Michael and this is to be commended. Pablo although not a believer has chosen to be a member here and perhaps this is because despite being a non believer he is intrigued by this forum and enjoys the fact that so many of us share a love of Michael
:WTF:
Back to orange pants guy...have we come to a conclusion of how tall is MJ and his shoe size?
Again that question popped in my head when @pablo mentioned that MJ and him got the same shoe size and height.
I am aware that this issue has been discussed previously, but it is not clear to me.
A friend of mine says that MJ is 1,82 cm yet in a magazine she showed me from the Thriller era it is written that he is 1,75.
Shoe size 45.
Orange pants MJ got similar hands but I cannot say the same about the body or the face.
Do you follow me?
I think Michael is around 1,78; never was interested in his shoes size though :icon_e_smile:
I don't believe in doubles in TII, Joe just amplifies the drama by making those accusations - he's a natural born seller. He'd be able to sell a rotten potato if he builds enough controversy around it.
So, we have no @truesource on this thread anymore? Still think he was harmless and he didn't have to pay for some people around who have double standard of their behavior.
I can imagine how MIchael must have felt with all the hypocrites around him while guessing what was in their hearts.
So, WHEN are we going to start that change with us? :icon_geek:
I think Michael is around 1,78; never was interested in his shoes size though :icon_e_smile:
I don't believe in doubles in TII, Joe just amplifies the drama by making those accusations - he's a natural born seller. He'd be able to sell a rotten potato if he builds enough controversy around it.
So, we have no @truesource on this thread anymore? Still think he was harmless and he didn't have to pay for some people around who have double standard of their behavior.
I can imagine how MIchael must have felt with all the hypocrites around him while guessing what was in their hearts.
So, WHEN are we going to start that change with us? :icon_geek:
veronica, truesource can cool down for a couple of weeks. Also, if you don't agree with my decisions, open your own forum! It seems you are always negative about lots happening on here, so why haven't you opened your own forum yet? I have explained way too many times why I do what I do and I don't feel like repeating myself. Get over it.
Probably for the same reason they thank Front /TS over and over again... chimera.- Doubt about trueSource's, TS & Front's credibility;
I do not appreciate impersonators, people who are not able to be themselves, but other's copycats.- Despise and depreciation with regards to impersonators
Obviously, not Mike!- Negativity
@truesource, are you taller than Michael?
While you dance, you let those moves come free to you, or you think them first, like respecting a choreography?
Hi and thank you for your answers!- A sudden polite tone...
I know you are not Michael, and it's not your fault indeed that some of us confuse you with him, but them cause they didn't study him enough.
I read your longer post and all I can say is that's always a wonderful music to my soul when I meet fans who really understand MJ's messages through his art and his values as the amazing human being he is, and in the same time I see that they put into practice what they learn from him.- An unexpected compliment (to use Souza's word "ass-kissing") for an impersonator whose work she clearly stated few quotes above that she does NOT appreciate.
Because now I feel you really know him, and knowing that you aren't a beLIEver, I got to ask you this: the way you know MJ, always inovative and all, do you think he would be capable to pull off a hoax as I believe he's doing now?- She does not believe Pablo is Mj, but in this question ^^ she shows that she clearly believes Pablo knows MJ, that he's an insider.
Would he do THIS, as you know him?
- Now this is quite an intriguing dialogue!that is indeed brave and a very interesting question, V. Thanks for asking..I will obviously not answer here. but I once wrote a letter if you care to read it. expressing my views on that. Love ur ways..I know it is - I tested it on myself a while ago and the answer amazed me...
Where can I find your views?
@truesource, can you say what's the significance of the capital letters in your videos?
Well, this is it, all your answers convinced me!
@truesource, will you be my insider? :icon_lol: I have non...
You'll just keep denying you're MJ, and I'll read between the lines... ;)
Deal? :bowdown:
(Gosh, this hoax makes me wanna screeeam sometimes... but I just can't. If the end isn't near, it gonna choke me one day.)
But he is not an impersonator, he is a fan. I mean an insider... he is an insider. :)
Veronicafall, I am deeply shocked you would 'fall' that easily. :icon_eek: :icon_lol:Treason, treason, but it tastes better when I know about it! :icon_lol:
Controlled fall... till the Autumn, lol
@truesource, what's your opinion about the tribute group "Who's Bad"?
I can't say I'm impressed of them, although instrumentally they sound pretty good live.
And physically, Pablo is quite different from MJ... But I love his loyalty to him. He is what I call "a TRUE fan".
I don't see why @truesource has to leave the forum when he was so clear he is not Michael. He shared enough to show us he is not a poser.- Blames everybody else for what happened to Pablo, because they thought he was Mj. But she sees herself as completely innocent, because she only thought he was an insider. :icon_rolleyes:
It's not his fault really cause a few hoaxers can't see he is just a fan.
I liked this thread - was fun :). A place like this could be relaxing...
So, we have no @truesource on this thread anymore? Still think he was harmless and he didn't have to pay for some people around who have double standard of their behavior.- She talks about hypocrisy.... She sees herself as the only sincere user in here.
I can imagine how MIchael must have felt with all the hypocrites around him while guessing what was in their hearts.
So, WHEN are we going to start that change with us? :icon_geek:
I think Michael is around 1,78; never was interested in his shoes size though :icon_e_smile:
I don't believe in doubles in TII, Joe just amplifies the drama by making those accusations - he's a natural born seller. He'd be able to sell a rotten potato if he builds enough controversy around it.
So, we have no @truesource on this thread anymore? Still think he was harmless and he didn't have to pay for some people around who have double standard of their behavior.
I can imagine how MIchael must have felt with all the hypocrites around him while guessing what was in their hearts.
So, WHEN are we going to start that change with us? :icon_geek:
veronica, truesource can cool down for a couple of weeks. Also, if you don't agree with my decisions, open your own forum! It seems you are always negative about lots happening on here, so why haven't you opened your own forum yet? I have explained way too many times why I do what I do and I don't feel like repeating myself. Get over it.
I don't have to be positive because so it would look good to you or anyone else, so I won't.
But your reply is fair enough.
Much love to you too :bearhug:.I hope you are not upset.@Pablo if I may state my opinion about the way you dance - you need MUCH MORE energy. You do the moves but they look studied, not coming naturally. Sorry, I guess you should put more of your heart into your moves when the camera is rolling.
The explanation about the way you write is not convincing :icon_pale:.
Since my answer would be more than a couple pages long..let me just thank u G for your.. opinion..
Can't you reduce your explanation to a few sentences :bowdown:?
Im not upset..I share this little doc here you probably all seen. the annotated page of a book as an example of a very Mj and wise sometimeS though on silence..and also as a nice memory his last real signature, though Im sure u all know it.
much love, V!
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Isn't it amazing we still discuss this all this time later! Is it him, isn't it him? I know what I think but I could easily be wrong. Do you think we'll ever know for sure or will it go down in history as one of the unsolved mysteries regarding Mr Jackson!
One thing I do know for sure though, finfin's sig is mesmerising! Teasingly play stroking her hair, biting that bottom lip and that little head movement at the end .... ahh, I've come over all unnecessary again!!!
Sim, I gotta say your breakdown cracked me up. You should be a trial lawyer.Just to be fair Bec:
@Souza, yes, it's circus time. We are all losing our collective minds. TICK-effing-TOCK.
Ps. I hope anyone who is solicited in some other facet online by this most recent TROLL is EXTREMELY careful. It left red flags lying all over the joint, girls, take good care of yourselves and proceed with caution.
Bec, relax...and PLEASE examine, ponder, reflect and contemplate a little more before you leap to conclusions and make such egregious "ASS"umptions that yours truly is a troll. That I'm not. I promise you that!
SOME times the eyes play tricks on us…..and OFTEN times a momentary SHIFT in perspective is not only needed but imperative in order to make all the pieces of this gargantuan puzzle fit together. Formulas…equations…numbers…there is more than one way to execute it but you get the SAME answer.
The world {r}evolves as time progresses---a "momental modifier". So too do individuals and PLANS. To expect everything to be EXACTLY as it was 5 years ago with absolutely NO deviations is a precursor for failure to comprehend and decipher. There is logic and reason in everything I have posted…according to PLAN. You'll see. Wait until the "PIE" is done before you predict the "taste" with haste. Please be patient as the NEW 7DT continues…………….
To everyone else who is being positive and THINKING FOR YOURSELF………plz continue and plz----> Keep Watchin'.
Pablo's physical appearance, and dance ability was about this close >< to the real thing. I've not seen any better except MJ himself.
Sim, I gotta say your breakdown cracked me up. You should be a trial lawyer.Just to be fair Bec:
@Souza, yes, it's circus time. We are all losing our collective minds. TICK-effing-TOCK.
Ps. I hope anyone who is solicited in some other facet online by this most recent TROLL is EXTREMELY careful. It left red flags lying all over the joint, girls, take good care of yourselves and proceed with caution.
Front on: June 18, 2011, 06:13:57 PM »QuoteBec, relax...and PLEASE examine, ponder, reflect and contemplate a little more before you leap to conclusions and make such egregious "ASS"umptions that yours truly is a troll. That I'm not. I promise you that!
SOME times the eyes play tricks on us…..and OFTEN times a momentary SHIFT in perspective is not only needed but imperative in order to make all the pieces of this gargantuan puzzle fit together. Formulas…equations…numbers…there is more than one way to execute it but you get the SAME answer.
The world {r}evolves as time progresses---a "momental modifier". So too do individuals and PLANS. To expect everything to be EXACTLY as it was 5 years ago with absolutely NO deviations is a precursor for failure to comprehend and decipher. There is logic and reason in everything I have posted…according to PLAN. You'll see. Wait until the "PIE" is done before you predict the "taste" with haste. Please be patient as the NEW 7DT continues…………….
To everyone else who is being positive and THINKING FOR YOURSELF………plz continue and plz----> Keep Watchin'.
Pablo's physical appearance, and dance ability was about this close >< to the real thing. I've not seen any better except MJ himself. Now why is that? How could he be a troll, unless he stole someone else's videos or spoke for the dancer who is too shy to talk to us. Yes, the man is speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude, but so did Back and Front sometimes. There is no way this guy was like the many fakers, trolls, posers out there.
It reminds me of one of the kiddie plastic hammering toys my boys had--you bang down one post and then another one pops up. That's our Morph-Mike!
Pablo appears in these videos without the mask....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFkbxvzONM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFkbxvzONM)[/youtube]
Pablo appears in these videos without the mask....
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFkbxvzONM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aFkbxvzONM)[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNJi_FS4GI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBNJi_FS4GI)[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvErsLSJjnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvErsLSJjnc)[/youtube]
the problem is not in Pablo, he is a talented man and seems to be a devoted fan of MJ,EXCELLENT!! (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/ta_clap.gif)
inspired by him, doing beautiful, hearty things in Mj's honor... He did just one BIG mistake
''speaking mysteriously, cryptically, and evasively and with attitude" --
but he's allegedly not in the hoax, so is not aware of our little psychological problems, lol,
and WHY he had to appear unmasked from the very beginning, or to leave this weird place
as soon as he explained whose video and who he is and so on..
but, I guarantee you, even in that case lots of people wouldn't have believed he IS NOT MJ
and would have continued to compare MJ's and Pablo's hands and height.
So, something wrong with US. Thanks to MJ himself and his multiple legit and non-legit 'mimickers',
we became extremely hysterical and probably soon will start to faint at the sight of every new MJ,
screaming like crazy girls on his concerts. (guess, he loves secretly this show ; )
So maybe people should just calm down and stop seeing MJ in every piece of wood,
and probably MJ should stop sending to here his agents-provocateurs (if he does this, of course)
if their mission is stirring the pot only, and sure he should get back asap --
until the best part of his fan-base is not completely loonies yet.)
( * thought, sure, who cares, there is a giant plan, so some sacrifices are inevitable...)
Ohh I see! I really feel sorry for that guy, although I didn't like his mysterious way! And as pikachu said, we have people in here who are looking for Michael everywhere so whenever someone like Pablo with his mysterious attitude shows up everyone will jump on him first. But after realizing that he is not MJ he is treated badly!!!!!! I really don't know whom to blame! Is it the paranoia created along with the hoax or is it Pablo and his mysterious way! Anyway, the guy left but there sure will be more people like him paying this forum a visit!!! The lesson the people here should learn is to stop looking for MJ everywhere. He is around and we know that. I know that people would love to talk to him personally but maybe it's not the right time for him to reveal himself now. So people have to be patient. Maybe after the bam things change. And even if he doesn't reveal himself after the bam on the forum it's enough for us to know that the he was around and he was reading everything we have been posting!no it's not enough
[...]All is possible, you're right!
We may be left forever having to create and settle on our own brand of truth, even after the Bam.
My hope is, that he sees us crazies, for the love we share, the hope we provide and thoughts that we stream. That he will at least acknowledge us.....so as to clear our good names, not to mention restore our minds, lol.
My hope is, that he sees us crazies, for the love we share, the hope we provide and thoughts that we stream. That he will at least acknowledge us.....so as to clear our good names, not to mention restore our minds, lol.
I don't think he personally needs to acknowledge us - Bam is the ONLY acknowledgment that's needed IMO, one fell swoop, good names and sanity restored! ... and it's the only thing I'm waiting for now.
My hope is, that he sees us crazies, for the love we share, the hope we provide and thoughts that we stream. That he will at least acknowledge us.....so as to clear our good names, not to mention restore our minds, lol.
I don't think he personally needs to acknowledge us - Bam is the ONLY acknowledgment that's needed IMO, one fell swoop, good names and sanity restored! ... and it's the only thing I'm waiting for now.
True curls, but... the smart ass retort will be that we just "guessed".
I think...
we had better steel ourselves for the strong possibility that we have grossly inflated our own sense of importance and involvement in these hoax proceedings. Become drunk on our own minds, if you will.
It is very realistically possible that MJ will not reveal himself to us, nor even give a forum-clue to the imminent Bam, that we will find out like everyone else on this good earth, and be just as surprised as they are when the time comes (except possibly for different reasons...).
It is equally possible that MJ will give no mention of us at that time, nor ever clear up any of the doubts and questions about these curious usernames, nor all the happenings that occurred during the hoax.
We may be left forever having to create and settle on our own brand of truth, even after the Bam.
hi everyone. I am new here. there's so much confusion over this. the guy is not the same man, the one in hollywood..
the at home' and other videos.. those videos were stoles from the original source so this moonwalkerfantv uploader is just trying to get attention. i think. i could prove that to you..there is only one source for this and didnt even know other people was uploading his videos.. I have very good sources for that.
And a big hug and hello to all the fans here.
I wait on your views on that..
oh boy.... we're really in the twilight zone!! :over-react-smiley:
For me, whether there is an admitted bam or not, whether Michael ever acknolwedges us for ALL THIS HARD WORK we’ve put into this adventure, or if I die before any of that occurs, I am eternally grateful for having found this forum. I was on the edge of madness, possibly suicidal (not eating, sleeping, hardly breathing) and finding this place brought me back from the dead. Not a moment’s waste of time and none too soon.Aww...that was so touching! Emotional.....
I don’t know if Michael watches us, but it feels that someone does. I cannot make myself believe that he’s never clicked on the link entitled MichaelJacksonDeathHOAXInvestigators out of curiosity just to see what all the hype and confusion was about. God knows we have been vilianized all across the net. We’re no strangers to adversity. So it seems human nature that the person of whom this forum is named and represents would be at least a little curious. Like it has been said, we have to find our own truth in all of this, and believe it with our hearts. I believe Michael lives. I believe he knows who we are, and just because of the kind of person he has proven himself to be, I do believe that some day he will find a way to let us know it. Those truths keep me going. I might never get any real confirmation from the man himself that he lives and is back, but my heart and my senses tells me he does and he will and that’s good enough for me. And again, thank you God for leading me here. This forum out of all I’ve frequented, this one truly, I cross my heart, saved my life.
The lesson the people here should learn is to stop looking for MJ everywhere. He is around and we know that.There's no lesson here. You simply win some, you lose some. We have Blond lady, Green man, Mr. MaGoo, X-factor Hatman, Dave Dave, Back, Front, and TS, who are all really continuations of the Mayor in Ghost, many other proven times MJ wore a disguise, Werewolf in Thriller. Sometimes beLIEving leaves you a bit vulnerable, but that just goes with the territory. The one's who simply can't believe at the base level--think MJ is dead, next level the believers who don't believe Back, Front or TS is MJ, and the next level are people like you who criticise people like me for looking for MJ everywhere, as if you would never be fooled. I'm sorry, I won't stop, but will keep pressing on.
I think...
we had better steel ourselves for the strong possibility that we have grossly inflated our own sense of importance and involvement in these hoax proceedings. Become drunk on our own minds, if you will.
It is very realistically possible that MJ will not reveal himself to us, nor even give a forum-clue to the imminent Bam, that we will find out like everyone else on this good earth, and be just as surprised as they are when the time comes (except possibly for different reasons...).
It is equally possible that MJ will give no mention of us at that time, nor ever clear up any of the doubts and questions about these curious usernames, nor all the happenings that occurred during the hoax.
We may be left forever having to create and settle on our own brand of truth, even after the Bam.
I think...
we had better steel ourselves for the strong possibility that we have grossly inflated our own sense of importance and involvement in these hoax proceedings. Become drunk on our own minds, if you will.
It is very realistically possible that MJ will not reveal himself to us, nor even give a forum-clue to the imminent Bam, that we will find out like everyone else on this good earth, and be just as surprised as they are when the time comes (except possibly for different reasons...).
@ bec - do you still feel like this (above) after seeing fronts latest post?
I loved your post Hesouttamylife!
Was this almost 3 years here a waste of my time? My husband occasionally suggests that to me, that I'll be like those hoping Elvis is alive, gently hoping I will give it up.
When MJ Bams, the world will be shocked, and buzz with info about it, negative and positive. Journalists will talk about it from all angles, and act like they are the final and best source on everything MJ being alive all this time, not dead. They might mention that there were various forums keeping a vigil and hope for him being alive. We have loved Michael as best we know how, and I truly believe he has sent his love and appreciation our way as well. I sense it. He doesn't have to 'reward' us for our investment here--we've chosen to be here. I've received ample 'reward' for me, but maybe I've never known high payment in life. :icon_e_smile:
But you know, it's like looking back at any historical famous event--we can look at it from a distance. But of course there must have been people very closely involved in it, that were intimately and emotionally involved in everything to do with the event and people involved. That's us. We've been down the MJ rabbit hole in his Wonderland. I can easily look way back in my life, and think to myself--oh those 2 or 3 or 4 or 10 years were a write-off--I wished I was doing something different. There's a lot of years like that in my life. The only ones I would never trade are the years I've been married and raising my 3 kids, and times spent with close friends. Much of the rest of it (though I have many great memories), I would alter or trade for some other experience, but hey, that's just how life goes. It was another time and way of thinking back there. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time. :Pulling_hair:
DiggyonQuoteThe lesson the people here should learn is to stop looking for MJ everywhere. He is around and we know that.There's no lesson here. You simply win some, you lose some. We have Blond lady, Green man, Mr. MaGoo, X-factor Hatman, Dave Dave, Back, Front, and TS, who are all really continuations of the Mayor in Ghost, many other proven times MJ wore a disguise, Werewolf in Thriller. Sometimes beLIEving leaves you a bit vulnerable, but that just goes with the territory. The one's who simply can't believe at the base level--think MJ is dead, next level the believers who don't believe Back, Front or TS is MJ, and the next level are people like you who criticise people like me for looking for MJ everywhere, as if you would never be fooled. I'm sorry, I won't stop, but will keep pressing on.
We have 5 more signs from TS to go, and Front graces us from time to time. Either we throw out everything we learned the last 3 years, or we try to follow the bread-crumbs through the forest as best we can. In the whole internet world, I see NOTHING else worth following, who has some better insight for where we're headed. I'm done with religion. I've put on MJ-colored glasses and I'm seeing the world and our future that way. For better or for worse. :icon_evil: :icon_e_biggrin:
I think...
we had better steel ourselves for the strong possibility that we have grossly inflated our own sense of importance and involvement in these hoax proceedings. Become drunk on our own minds, if you will.
It is very realistically possible that MJ will not reveal himself to us, nor even give a forum-clue to the imminent Bam, that we will find out like everyone else on this good earth, and be just as surprised as they are when the time comes (except possibly for different reasons...).
@ bec - do you still feel like this (above) after seeing fronts latest post?
Yes? No? I flitter in and out of this mindset periodically during the course of the last 3 years. I have a feeling not all is as it seems with anything.
"Nothing is for real" means nothing.
I think the hoaxers are being/have been/will be hoaxed along with the rest of the world, yes.
So I expect to be surprised at the end.
In other news, I feel almost like I want to split this thread between nonsense and the reall good, deep convo it has turned into. Anyone have an opinion?
And I'll ponder your question further on a good night's sleep, Aussie. See you in the morning.